Redditor Helps Solve Brown U. Shooting Case, Tapper's Trump Health Sham, and Leftist Bullying, with Buck Sexton and Payton McNabb | Ep. 1217

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Megyn Kelly is joined by Buck Sexton, co-host of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, to talk about the Brown U. and MIT alleged shooter found dead, the awkward self-congratulatory press conference after the culprit was found dead, how a Reddit poster helped solve the Brown U. shooting, the tools like AI getting better and helping crowdsource crime-solving, why privacy is a thing of the past, Jake Tapper's ridiculous CNN segment focused on Trump's health, leftist nonsense disguised as objective news, terrible Democratic and GOP messaging on the economy, some on the left and right who are more interested in fighting and petty social media squabbles than uniting, the viral report on how DEI negatively affected white millennial men, why the Trump administration is now trying to help white men sue for discrimination, and more. Payton McNabb, "Independent Women" ambassador, joins to discuss the boy who injured her in a girl's volleyball game playing the victim, never-seen TikTok videos of the boy, the bullying from John Oliver and others, the left taking shots at her and Democrats not cheering for her at Trump's March address, and more. Then Payton McNabb, "Independent Women" ambassador, joins to discuss the boy who injured her in a girl's volleyball game playing the victim, never-seen TikTok videos of the boy, the bullying from John Oliver and others, the left taking shots at her and Democrats not cheering for her at Trump's March address, and more.

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It's finally over.

Speaker 10 The man accused of killing two and wounding nine in a heinous shooting at Brown University this past Saturday was found dead by authorities Thursday night from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Speaker 10 Law enforcement tracked him down to a storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire.

Speaker 10 And now we know he is also the suspect in Monday evening's murder of a renowned MIT professor of nuclear science and engineering. So I guess we weren't actually safe when

Speaker 10 the mayor of Providence, Rhode Island said,

Speaker 10 I know we're safe because there's been no additional shooting since Saturday morning. Actually,

Speaker 10 the MIT professor was not safe. No one was safe until that guy put a bullet in his own brain.
Here's what we know about the shooter.

Speaker 10 His name is Claudio Neves Valentine, Valente, I should say, Valente, and he's a 48-year-old Portuguese national. So, I mean, who predicted he was going to be from Portugal? What?

Speaker 10 Who entered the country on a student visa in 2000?

Speaker 10 He started at Brown University's physics PhD program in the fall of that year, 2000, but took a leave of absence after the spring of 2001 semester and formally withdrew from the university in 2003.

Speaker 10 So, what was he doing here?

Speaker 10 Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam gave some color on X last night, quote, Claudio Emmanuel Neves Valente entered the United States through the Diversity Lottery Immigrant Visa Program, DV1, in 2017 and was granted a green card.

Speaker 10 This heinous individual should never have been allowed in our country.

Speaker 10 In 2017, President Trump fought to end this program following the devastating New York City truck ramming by an ISIS terrorist who entered under the DV1 program and murdered eight people.

Speaker 10 At President Trump's direction, I am immediately directing USCIS to pause the DV1 program to ensure no more Americans are harmed by this disastrous program, unquote.

Speaker 10 The AP reporting it was not immediately clear where he was between taking a leave of absence from Brown University in 2001 and getting the visa in 2017.

Speaker 10 As far as the shooter's connection to the slain MIT professor, the FBI believes that they attended the same university in Portugal where the professor is also from.

Speaker 10 The shooter's 48, the dead professor 47.

Speaker 10 No other information about motive is yet available. We have no idea.
I mean, no idea. By the way, there was a report, you know, he'd been yelling something.
What was it? They came out last night.

Speaker 10 Nobody knows.

Speaker 10 Somebody said he might have been like growling.

Speaker 10 Nobody knows. We don't know why he did what he did.
As we've been reporting, the Providence police and mayor mostly looked feckless and incompetent throughout this investigation.

Speaker 10 And it now appears that they had no major leads until Wednesday. We'll have more on that in a bit.
But that did, and like I said, a man died.

Speaker 10 I'm not blaming the Brown and the Providence officials for this murder of the MIT professor.

Speaker 10 But

Speaker 10 I would think when you're like, yeah, you don't need to shelter in place. No one else has died.

Speaker 10 And then a man dies and then you find out it's the same shooter, it might tamp down your self-congratulatory tone when you come out to say he's finally been caught. Watch this.

Speaker 12 Tonight, our Providence neighbors can finally breathe a little easier. We all worked well together to be able to identify this suspect.

Speaker 12 I'm extremely proud of this department, actually the officers, the detectives. It was all about groundwork, public assistance, interviews of individuals, and good old-fashioned policing.

Speaker 12 And I will say that everybody brought

Speaker 12 a certain expertise to the table. We can feel like you're chasing leads and they don't work out, but the team keeps going.
But when you do crack it, you crack it.

Speaker 10 Okay, joining me now to react to this and so much more is Buck Sexton, co-host of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 10 Buck, welcome back. What do you make of the apprehension of the suspect who was dead, but they did find him.
We don't know when he killed himself.

Speaker 10 Could have been as they closed in, could have been earlier. Point is, he's dead and he's not going to hurt any other people.
But the, I mean, the backpadding by the Keystone cop crew was a bit much.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I'll be honest with you, Megan. I think that this has become a little bit of a trend and it needs to stop.

Speaker 14 And I speak with some background in this because I was at the NYPD Intelligence Division doing high profile counterterrorism investigations, including the Times Square bombing of that Faisal Shahzad carried out.

Speaker 14 And so I remember getting called in on the weekend because the bombing happened and we had a task force, FBI, all these other agencies, and we had to find this guy. We got him.

Speaker 14 We got him at the airport, actually on a plane on his way to Pakistan. So that was a near miss.

Speaker 14 And I think everybody took a moment to say, oh, wow, we got to move a little faster next time to get an individual.

Speaker 14 There wasn't a press conference called for everybody to high-five each other in law enforcement.

Speaker 14 And I think that this is something that everyone who's observing these press conferences now, because they are major news events, they shouldn't be used as PR campaigns for a department, for a mayor, for a governor, for any of the above.

Speaker 10 They didn't do great. Or the FBI.

Speaker 14 Or the FBI. Yeah, the FBI did this too recently.
And I call that out on my radio show, Megan. It was like, it was, you know, we're so great.
We're doing amazing work. You don't need to tell me.

Speaker 10 It was a little uncomfortable.

Speaker 14 It was weird. It was weird.
It needs to stop.

Speaker 14 And I think that this, unfortunately, maybe is a byproduct also of like the social media era where people, you know, want to be able to take a bow publicly. But

Speaker 14 there's no need for what we saw in Providence, Rhode Island here. I mean, this was way too congratulatory.
I mean, people were shot, people were killed, and they didn't get this guy really.

Speaker 14 I mean, he killed himself. So they need to slow their roll a little bit and focus on good police work next time.
And also, don't tell us to avoid misinformation online.

Speaker 14 That has a very Orwellian tone to it. Like, you got to be careful about all the misinformation.
No, we don't. Go find the shooter.

Speaker 10 No, we were getting lectured to, even last night, Christina Peshawar, Paxson,

Speaker 10 who is the president of Brown University, was out there.

Speaker 10 sending an email to people being like, you know, it was just very unfortunate the misinformation that went around about potential people involved in this when looking at their social media.

Speaker 10 And it was like she was kind of over the top in her chastising. It was like, you know what? You know what actually solved the case? Social media solved the case.

Speaker 10 Some guy who saw the suspect was posting what he saw to Reddit and like in great detail. And the Redditors encouraged him to go to the police, which he then did.

Speaker 14 And this guy proved to be, it looks like, we believe, the critical force that led to this guy's identification and not arrest but murder i mean suicide from from what i understand megan and there's still details coming in but it seems that this guy who who committed this uh you know mass murder and suicide uh took some took some security steps as well to make this more difficult and and i think that with law enforcement they have some incredible tools again tools that I actually used in a prior life myself.

Speaker 14 Things like people will say, well, why can't they just ping a cell phone? Well, they can, but this guy apparently didn't take his his cell phone with him for the shootings. You know, why can't they?

Speaker 10 Or had, or they're saying he may have had foreign SIM cards.

Speaker 14 Yeah, or he changed out his SIM card. But I mean, he didn't bring like his, this is who I am, this is my name, cell phone with me.
Even if you ping phones, you're pinging in an area.

Speaker 14 So there could, and then a place like Brown University, there's going to be, I don't know, a couple thousand people that are probably pinging off that tower.

Speaker 14 So it can whittle things down, but it doesn't mean that you have the so-called smoking gun right away.

Speaker 14 This guy took some steps. I mean, it seems like this is some kind of personal grudge/slash psychosis, but you know, who knows? We'll find out more.

Speaker 14 Clearly, I think it's more than a coincidence that he studied with this guy at a Portuguese university. I don't think that's a leap.
So, he knew he knew that guy.

Speaker 14 But I think that law enforcement here got caught flat-footed because the initial things that they go to in this situation, they right away they go to the surveillance footage, right away they go to cell phones.

Speaker 14 If somebody is good enough at covering their tracks on those fronts, then it's old-fashioned police work and Reddit might move a lot faster on that than some of these cops can. That's just the truth.

Speaker 10 Yeah, here's what we know.

Speaker 10 And just a word of caution to the audience, it's not totally clear how it all went down.

Speaker 10 Not surprisingly, given the law enforcement we're dealing with, but we're gleaning the following.

Speaker 10 This actually does come from the supporting arrest affidavit that there was a tip received on Tuesday, December 16th. Does not give a date for when the Reddit post was put up on Reddit.

Speaker 10 But three days after the deadly shooting at Brown, officers received an anonymous tip that stuck out from a flood of information. It directed the authorities to a post on Reddit.

Speaker 10 Quote, I'm being dead serious. The police need to look into a gray Nissan with Florida plates, possibly a rental.
That was the car he was driving.

Speaker 10 He was parked in front of the little shack behind the Rhode Island Historical Society on the Cookside Street. So Cook Street side.

Speaker 10 I know because he used his key fob to open the car, approached it, and then something prompted him to back away. When he backed away, he relocked the car.
I found that odd.

Speaker 10 So when he circled the block, I approached the car, and that is when I saw the Florida plates.

Speaker 10 He was parked in the section between the gate of the Rhode Island Historical Society and the corner of Cook and George Street.

Speaker 10 Now, based on that post, the police say they expanded their video search, you know, looking at people's cameras to the Rhode Island Historical Society area.

Speaker 10 Investigators located a gray slash blue Nissan sedan.

Speaker 10 Police then released still images of the then unknown person, later identified as John, who interacted with the suspect approximately, uh, at approximately 2.16 p.m. on December 13th.

Speaker 10 And then here's another one. Wednesday, December 17th, the Reddit poster approached the cops on the street near Brown.

Speaker 10 And by the way, it looks like they did not go find John after he posted that tip. Like,

Speaker 10 I'm not sure what they did, to be honest with you, after they saw that Reddit tip. They're kind of suggesting that they took it seriously.
Okay.

Speaker 10 Then they say a day after the Reddit post was made, the writer approached law enforcement officials and told them about his encounter with a suspicious man in Brown University's Barris and Holly building.

Speaker 10 The tipster, whom the police referred to only as John, said he had encountered the suspect inside a bathroom on the ground floor of the building between 1.45 p.m.

Speaker 10 and 2 p.m., around two hours before the first shots were reported. John said the suspect's clothing was inappropriate for the weather and they had made eye contact.

Speaker 10 John told the police he followed the man after he left the building to a Nissan vehicle with a Florida plate, but instead of entering the vehicle, the suspect started walking around the block with John behind him.

Speaker 10 So he sounds like the same person. John said it was like a game of cat and mouse.
At one point, the two men spoke. According to the affidavit, John asked the suspect, your car's back there.

Speaker 10 Why are you circling the block? To which the suspect responded, why are you harassing me? John went his own way soon after that.

Speaker 10 When the police showed John images of the suspect's car from safety cameras, he said that might be it. And here's the last one, Buck.

Speaker 10 Per the affidavit, Monday, sorry, morning of Wednesday, December 17th, a separate university employee, a Brown university faculty member, had also described a suspicious vehicle in the same neighborhood, a gray sedan with Florida plates on Thursday, December 11th at 9.15 a.m.

Speaker 10 It did not take long for investigators to find that the car was from an Alamo rental location in downtown Boston. And from the rental agreement, they got a name, Claudio Manuel Neves Valente.

Speaker 10 So that's how they caught him. There were things happening on the Boston end too around the MIT professor, but it was this Reddit guy.

Speaker 10 It seems like it was this guy who posted on Reddit named John, who Jesse Waters had a guest last night was reporting, they believe is a former Brown student who is now homeless.

Speaker 10 Unconfirmed, but that was reported both online and and on Fox last night.

Speaker 14 Well, yeah, there's uh crowdsourcing has been around for a while, and I think it's getting more and more sophisticated.

Speaker 14 Because keep in mind the tools that are available to the general public now when you start adding in AI. I use AI now, just as a side note, all the time, and I'm amazed at what it can do.

Speaker 14 I was putting together a gun safe. Which one do you use? Oh, I use Grok exclusively.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 14 I'm a Grammak. I'm a Grok guy.

Speaker 14 So

Speaker 14 yeah, I'm an investor in Grok. I love Grok.
So anyway um i i actually uh

Speaker 14 was putting together a gun safe yesterday and i was able to just take a photo of the safe from a distance and say how do i do all these things and how do i program everything and and it's it's better than any manual i mean it's incredible what it can do i bring this up in the context of this investigation because now

Speaker 14 you can work with pretty sophisticated tools if you have still images if you have basic geolocation data i mean you can start to do some some high level, certainly much more high level than what have you even been capable by law enforcement 10, 15 years ago.

Speaker 14 So

Speaker 14 this is catching up really quickly. And this is, I think, changing the world all around us in a whole range of ways.
But the ability now to, I mean, think about this.

Speaker 14 How far are we from facial recognition being something? Now, I know this guy, I think his face was covered, but just...

Speaker 10 They're already using that in some police departments across the country. Oh, in police departments they are.

Speaker 14 I mean, people being able to run programs at home.

Speaker 14 You know, this is, I mean, the tech is getting so widespread that what we used to think of as a law enforcement exclusive tool, I think, is going to be something that you're seeing in the hands of these online sleuths.

Speaker 14 And look, I mean, now this was, this is a whole other discussion, but there was a whole effort, as we all know, online.

Speaker 14 The FBI not only had 30% of them weaponized against under Biden against the J6 protesters, but there was a big online effort to track all those people down too.

Speaker 14 So the public has become mobilized in a whole range of ways to be able to help law enforcement for good and for ill, depending on the situation. But that's what's going on.

Speaker 10 It's very creepy. We had somebody on the show, she had written a book on this, and she was talking about how they've got these glasses already.

Speaker 10 not available for purchase yet, but these glasses that you could put on and you could walk into a bar and let's say I see you, but I don't know you at this point.

Speaker 10 And I go over and I try to hit on you, Buck Sexton, and you're like, get out of here, old lady. I'm married and I'm a happily married man.

Speaker 10 But now I'm like, I'm pissed that who is that cocky former CIA type? I'm going to get him. And I tap my glasses.

Speaker 10 And based on facial recognition, not only do they tell me it's Buck Sexton, they tell me where you live. They tell me where you went to school.

Speaker 10 They tell me all this identifying personal information about you, which is just a very effed up up way to live.

Speaker 14 Privacy is essentially going to be a thing of the past. I mean, we already have microphones that we, active microphones, that we carry all throughout our homes all the time.

Speaker 14 I mean, yes, you and I, Megan, make a living by doing media. So there's cameras and

Speaker 14 high-end audio equipment in certain rooms, but people are carrying around open mics all the time.

Speaker 14 We've all had this thing of you start talking about some subject and then you get an ad about it on your phone served to you and you're on Google or whatever it is. This is real.

Speaker 14 This is all around us. And as the technology is going to, this is a bit like Moore's Law with computing power.

Speaker 14 And the technology that you have access to from AI is going to continue to get more and more sophisticated, such that you're going to have people who, the second that they release anything about a major incident of public, whether it's a mass shooting or any major incident of public interest.

Speaker 14 the entire internet is going to be able to use these different now there i understand there's problems with this too how do you verify who do you trust trust how do you know but uh the the data uh and the access to analysis of that data that everyone's gonna have is

Speaker 14 we are in a brave new world it is changing and the fact I mean you just read that whole that whole Reddit thread I mean that that was more sophisticated than most of the police reports that I used to read when I was in the Intel division I mean that was more detailed it was more

Speaker 10 this guy if this really is a homeless guy I mean this this is a hero this guy John is a hero he posted something this morning saying I'm not going to be posting really anything else.

Speaker 10 I might, he said, I might like

Speaker 10 up comments, like positive comments, things that I like online, but that's all I'm going to do. But we got to know more about John.

Speaker 10 I wanted to mention something about, you mentioned the cameras, which will be, you know, which we're kind of used to being everywhere. That was a problem in this case.

Speaker 10 Why weren't they everywhere inside of this building? This was a big bone of contention last night. And

Speaker 10 there was a kind of

Speaker 10 suggestion by the officials there were some cameras inside the building where this shooting took place at Brown University, but that whatever cameras there were did not capture what happened in this classroom or the guy's ingress or egress from

Speaker 10 the building. Obviously, that's true, otherwise they would have shown us his pictures on day one.
So then there was a question about why. Why didn't we have more cameras?

Speaker 10 And then there was a question about whether many of them had been turned off at the behest of the pro-Palestinian activists on campus, of which there are many at Brown University.

Speaker 10 And there's been more and more reporting that that actually did happen.

Speaker 10 Well, there was an exchange with a reporter and Christina Hulpax, and again, she's the president of Brown, about the lack of video to help solve this murder. And listen to this exchange, SOP5.

Speaker 8 Dan.

Speaker 12 President Paxon, Dan Jay from NBC 10.

Speaker 12 I want to go back to the question I asked you Saturday night when I first arrived on the scene. There were no cameras in this building.

Speaker 12 And law enforcement, some that are standing up behind you, have said if Brown had cameras in that part of the building, we would have gotten this guy.

Speaker 12 And it may have stopped the swirling action.

Speaker 12 Can you answer that question for me?

Speaker 11 Well, I don't think we have said the locations of cameras at Brown.

Speaker 11 We have no cameras in this building.

Speaker 12 We do, because why would they take it from a rental car agency?

Speaker 11 We have 1,200 cameras at Brown.

Speaker 12 But not in that building.

Speaker 11 We have some in that building. It's a large complex.

Speaker 11 and I think what you would see is the video evidence in this case from my perspective I'm not a law enforcement agent has been incredibly helpful.

Speaker 11 The moving of the person around the neighborhood, those video images, they helped craft this case. So I think video was important.

Speaker 12 Video played a big role in this case. The neighbor's video, the rental car video.

Speaker 12 But not the video from the building that he walked in freely both before when he got in a confrontation and when he came back in, decided to kill people.

Speaker 12 You didn't have cameras in that building, just say it so we can get this over. And my next question is: Will you put cameras?

Speaker 1 Follow up. Will you put the cameras in the building?

Speaker 12 Will there be more cameras in that building?

Speaker 18 You know, I think we need to look back, we'll look at everything that is done, but I do not think a lack of cameras in that building had anything to do with what happened now.

Speaker 10 What? No one suggests it caused it, although who knows, Maybe he did scope out what areas didn't have cameras beforehand.

Speaker 10 But it led, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm not blaming the MIT professor's murder on her, but it did indirectly lead to another life being cost.

Speaker 10 Because if we had had that guy on camera, who knows how quickly they could have caught him, Buck. And by the way, that reporter's name is Dan Jenny from NBC10.
Good for you, Dan.

Speaker 14 Yeah, well, he's putting Jen and Reno in a tough spot up there or whatever it is from Brown University.

Speaker 14 There's no good answer for what it is that

Speaker 14 is being asked because clearly

Speaker 14 they had not really thought through this as a meaningful security measure for this facility. And a place like Brown University, I mean, you know this, Megan.

Speaker 14 I've been putting this out on radio for a few days. I had a family member, an aunt who went there.
It is the most left-wing Ivy League school, and it is among the most left-wing of all schools.

Speaker 14 It just has, it has always had that reputation.

Speaker 14 They don't get grades there. Now, what does that have to do with this investigation, right? I'm not just taking cheap shots at the communists.

Speaker 14 Well, maybe I'm taking cheap shots at the communists, but what it has to do with the security procedures here is that this is a place that generally lives in a fantasy land of bad things don't happen.

Speaker 14 We'll never going to have to really deal with law enforcement.

Speaker 14 We don't have to think about, you know, the worst thing that Brown University thinks they're going to have to deal with in a day-to-day sense is somebody using the wrong preferred pronouns.

Speaker 14 Like this is not a place that is taking seriously the security, the physical safety and security of its students in a way that I think it should.

Speaker 14 I mean, just based on the fact that they don't even have good answers here for, yeah, why do you not have a camera? Now, they could say it's an old building and we got cameras in a lot of places.

Speaker 14 All right, but, you know, who's in charge of security on this campus? I mean, who's actually making sure that people are safe? And also, where was the armed response to this as well?

Speaker 14 This guy was able to get out of there very easily, very quickly.

Speaker 14 I also like to point out to everyone, everyone, he would know that Brown completely bans anybody from being able to conceal carry on that campus.

Speaker 14 So this guy, who now it seems pretty clear, I think, right, is like a planned out

Speaker 14 grudge mass shooter. I mean, he shot a whole lot of people.

Speaker 14 So I'm sure there's just some level of psychosis that's tied into this, but it seems like he was he was, you know, pissed off at people for some reason or a number of people.

Speaker 14 But he would know that the Brown University police, I'm sure there's a whole thing about how we can't have too many armed cops. You know, that scares people.
Police having weapons is frightening.

Speaker 14 We're going to have like violence interrupters first and foremost.

Speaker 14 We had some of this at my school, Amherst, by the way.

Speaker 14 You know, it's like, oh, if you call, we don't want the cops to actually arrive for anything, even if there's a huge fight and people are getting stabbed because people might get pepper sprayed and there could be,

Speaker 14 you know, diversity could suffer depending on the situation. There's all kinds of things, right? So.

Speaker 10 No, that police,

Speaker 10 sorry, the mayor of Providence, who just embarrassed himself throughout this process,

Speaker 10 even with the shooter still on the loose less than 48 hours after 11 kids were shot at Brown University, was saying this.

Speaker 10 Okay, this is hours before the MIT professor would be shot dead in his apartment vestibule. Listen to SAT 2.
This is Monday on CNN.

Speaker 19 Explain

Speaker 19 this notion that appears to be in conflict. There's a killer on the loose and a manhunt underway.

Speaker 19 So how can that be the case when you say there is, why are you confident there is no threat to public safety?

Speaker 20 The call came in for the shooting at 4.05 p.m.

Speaker 19 on Saturday.

Speaker 20 It's Monday morning, 10 a.m. Eastern, and there has not been a single credible or specific threat

Speaker 20 that we've received since that time.

Speaker 20 And so

Speaker 20 just because of those facts, that's why we believe it is safe and appropriate for residents in Providence to be sending their kids to school today and to be out in the community.

Speaker 20 There has been no follow-up threat.

Speaker 10 Oh my God. He literally said

Speaker 10 there is no threat to public safety. On Saturday, Saturday after the shooting, he said people may want want to cancel their plans, but I don't feel it's necessary.

Speaker 10 And we haven't received any additional credible information that there's an ongoing threat.

Speaker 10 The students' bodies were barely cold at that point. And he's saying there's no ongoing.
That is a liberal mania on how crime is just not a thing.

Speaker 10 You're immediately safe because the shooting event is over. Go about your lives, folks who live in Providence.
Oh, and vote for me.

Speaker 14 Oh, of course. Well, I think he took the wrong lesson from the mayor in Jaws, who's like, the beaches will be open this weekend.
It's like, well, there's still a shark out there.

Speaker 10 So maybe think a little harder about that. I love that mayor.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 14 I mean, Jaws is the best. That thing really holds up.

Speaker 14 But this guy,

Speaker 14 look, there was a lot of incompetence here. This is something,

Speaker 14 to be fair,

Speaker 14 when you're dealing with these smaller, whether it's a law enforcement. First of all, the Brown University administration, I don't think that they could figure out, you know, how to open a paper bag.

Speaker 14 I mean, I just feel this is these institutions have been so absolutely top to bottom overtaken by the worst kinds of mediocrity and delusional thinking.

Speaker 14 And I mean, from the administrative side, never mind the academics and the students. So that's not a surprise at all.
And a place like the Providence, Rhode Island Police Department,

Speaker 14 you know, I mean, the guy who's the chief of police also, I just note, if you're going to be doing a press conference, it was not that easy to understand him, which is something that I don't think.

Speaker 10 He's been here for 30 years.

Speaker 14 Yeah, what's up with that? Like, hello.

Speaker 14 What's up with like, you know, you can't kind of figure it out a little more.

Speaker 14 I feel like we're allowed to at some point say, you know, if you're going to be in that public-facing role, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you should want to not sound like you got here a year ago.

Speaker 14 And that is.

Speaker 10 And it shouldn't be so hard for us to understand.

Speaker 14 I mean, it's a public safety issue. I mean, you're sitting here, there's a reason they have people that are doing all the sign language and stuff.
And so everybody can understand.

Speaker 14 And I found myself with the Providence chief of police going, wait, what did he, what was that he said?

Speaker 14 And that's just not

Speaker 10 a good. At least they got rid of the crazy female signer who was just so obnoxious and desperate to call attention to herself.
The guy who was there yesterday, the bald man was better.

Speaker 14 Yeah, no, the female sign lady who was like doing crazy like interpretive dances. Over here.

Speaker 10 Look at me. I'm a star.
It's my big moment.

Speaker 10 she reminded me of that one sign language lady who turned out to be fake remember she wasn't actually sign

Speaker 14 i kind of miss her to be honest it was pretty amazing but i i hear you like if we're being serious here yeah of course it's best not to have her doing all the stuff

Speaker 10 it's a distraction um okay i i gotta fire through a few more things while we're together because we have a shorter show today uh two nights ago President Trump giving remarks from the White House on his,

Speaker 10 what he says is our hot, our country's country's hot again.

Speaker 10 And mentioning the economy. Inflation indeed has gone down.

Speaker 10 He got a very favorable report yesterday morning, way better than analysts had expected, and announcing that he was going to provide checks worth $1,700 and 76, 1776 is the number to our military personnel.

Speaker 10 It turned out that that was some sort of a housing voucher that people got, but in any event, he chipped almost $2,000 off of bills they owed. And this is where Jake Tapper on CNN went with it.
Okay.

Speaker 10 I just happened to be in the very fortunate position of seeing this, and I couldn't believe what I was watching. But here it is in SOT 9 yesterday.

Speaker 16 That kind of manic delivery was very, very disturbing,

Speaker 16 very pressurized speech. And as the address went on,

Speaker 16 the cadence of his remarks became quicker. And we've never seen the president like that.
He seemed almost frantic and it was disturbing to watch.

Speaker 17 Earlier today, and this is not the first time this has happened, the president appeared to be struggling to keep his eyes open during a public White House event in the Oval Office earlier today.

Speaker 17 If that worries you, what's your take on that?

Speaker 16 He's done this several times now in the last few weeks. He's fallen asleep.
in a crowded Oval office, and he's also fallen asleep at cabinet meetings.

Speaker 16 And that's what's called increased daytime somnolence. Sometimes people with sleep apnea, people who wake up many times during the night and don't get restorative sleep, have that.

Speaker 16 He has the chronic bruise, he had swollen ankles, he's had these mysterious scans. I think all of this raises considerate, you know, realistic concerns about the health of the president.

Speaker 16 And it would be great if the White House was a little bit more forthcoming about that. You know, I can't be the only person who had concerns after watching him last night.

Speaker 1 You weren't.

Speaker 14 Oh, Tapper. Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 Oh, man.

Speaker 10 Can you believe?

Speaker 14 Look, I honestly, there's a part of me that both I find Jake at CNN both deeply amusing and at this point, a little bit sad.

Speaker 14 He is reminiscent as the serious journalist just asking questions of the Imperial Japanese soldiers found after World war ii had ended i think one guy lasted 29 years in the jungles of the philippines ignoring the leaflets and refusing to accept that the war was over and then finally someone showed up who had uh been his commanding officer and i think he was willing to put down his his arms like jake is the lost imperial japanese soldier of cnn like he's still he's still keeping this whole thing going like i'm i'm just here doing the journalism it's like we all know what cnn is buddy just like i did just like i did just like i've been doing i i've done this for every president speaking it's so transparent oh man speaking truth to power it's hilarious right there's also the guy who has as you well know and by the way and look look look

Speaker 10 look what they're picking up on buck he he spoke fast right now he that one time he spoke fast so he must have some sort of a brain disorder this is so pathetic and it's so obvious like

Speaker 10 at least you'd love to give him points for at least being clever you can it's just so on the nose nobody like i guess this is leftist sweet nothings that he thinks his audience wants now and he thinks he's got the credibility to do it since he wrote the book.

Speaker 10 He literally wrote the book, Buck, on Joe Biden's poor mental health.

Speaker 14 I have to give you credit, actually.

Speaker 14 I don't know if we've, we've addressed this on your show again, but I came on before you interviewed Jake and I was like, Megan, you know, you're just, you're a very like cordial and polite and friendly person.

Speaker 14 And you were just like, I don't think that that's going to mean with Jake's book that he's not going to. And I watched that.
I watched your Jake interview and it was really good.

Speaker 14 So, you did not let him get away, you did not let him get away with the nonsense. I mean, that's a knock on me sometimes.
People be like, oh, you're too polite, you're too nice.

Speaker 14 And I'm like, well, until I get pissed off.

Speaker 10 Well, it's hard when you have people on who you, you know, have somewhat of a friendly relationship with

Speaker 10 it, but like that was just such an egregious claim. Well, you look, you,

Speaker 14 you were totally fair. It was about the subject matter.
It wasn't personal. You were totally fair to him, and the whole thing was preposterous.

Speaker 14 And you're just like, okay, I'm going to let you make the case. This isn't preposterous, what you're doing.
But it was preposterous. And we all saw that.

Speaker 14 And the idea that somehow they've like cleansed themselves at CNN or the Democrats of this unbelievable stain on their integrity, which I don't think will ever go away, that we all knew Biden had dementia.

Speaker 14 I mean, we felt bad because it was such a frequent topic on our show on radio.

Speaker 10 Ignore it.

Speaker 10 You couldn't not see it.

Speaker 14 It was the most obvious thing in the world. And then they're going to tell us, oh, you know what?

Speaker 14 We figured it out after that debate when it was clear that Biden couldn't run really anymore, and now they want to look, I think at some level too, though, there's a bit of trolling here because they're like, well, if you did this to us, like if you knocked our guy out because he had dementia, we're going to do the same to you.

Speaker 10 The problem is, Trump doesn't have dementia.

Speaker 14 That's the problem.

Speaker 10 Trump's talking fast. He's talking fast.
Oh, oh, I got to stop the presses. Extra, extra.
All right, let's keep going. There's more.

Speaker 10 Scott Besant was at a DC restaurant and got harassed by code pink activists.

Speaker 10 My real question here is: how did they know he was going to be at this restaurant? It's Sat 6. Take a look at this horrible thing.

Speaker 10 We have a special guest here, and we want to make a toast for the Secretary of Treasury, Scott Vesson.

Speaker 10 So, let's give it up for the man who is eating in peace as people starve across the world based on his sanctions, which are economic warfare.

Speaker 10 Of course, you're going to do this.

Speaker 10 It's the truth. He He oversees the death of 600,000 people due to sanctions annually.

Speaker 10 And this president, let's cheers to the Monroe Doctrine. Who Trump today said that Venezuelan oil

Speaker 10 and you have no idea how

Speaker 10 you are ignorant? You are responsible for the death of 600,000 people annually because of sanctions.

Speaker 10 How many people are going to die because of the blood is on your hands? The blood blood is on your hands. You should be ashamed.

Speaker 10 It goes on and on and on because they want to harass the poor man while he's just having dinner, minding his own business, not bothering anybody in the corner.

Speaker 10 This is like the devolution of like good and decency, like goodness and decency when it comes to our societal behavior, and it does matter.

Speaker 14 Well, you're nailing it there.

Speaker 14 Code Pink is the Westboro Baptist Church of anti-war,

Speaker 14 activists.

Speaker 14 They're just

Speaker 14 thank you. They are disgusting.

Speaker 10 Right. That's so good.

Speaker 14 They are. There we go.
They're vile morons.

Speaker 14 Anybody who's a part of Code Pink is somebody you don't want to be around and you should not take seriously.

Speaker 14 I'd also note that they generally, I know people can find, they probably yelled some things at Pelosi, but they overwhelmingly find that during Republican administrations, no matter what, you know, Trump is the guy who's like, I'm not starting any new wars.

Speaker 14 We're not, you know, we're not overthrowing Gaddafi in Libya. Like, we're not doing this stuff.
And yet, Code Pink is always so active during Republican administrations.

Speaker 14 We know that they're idiots. They do nothing other than get attention for themselves.
I think the people who are part of Code Pink honestly have undiagnosed anxiety or other disorders.

Speaker 14 Like, I think it's a mental health issue to be a member of Code Pink

Speaker 14 and to do this kind of a thing. I would just say, I'm curious, Megan,

Speaker 14 because this is so important to me, that

Speaker 14 it is the defenders of civilization in this situation who are the restaurant staff and owner owner-manager, it's up to them to say, you're now trespassed, get out of here.

Speaker 14 We're calling the police and to make their patron and to make their patron feel, in this case, Scott Beston. Let me say this: it's bipartisan for me.

Speaker 14 If a bunch of Republicans act like a bunch of jerks, which this doesn't happen, but I'm just saying theoretically, if a bunch of Republicans started harassing a Democrat official like this in a restaurant,

Speaker 14 I would say the same thing, which is that we can't have civilized society if people can't have a dinner. You know,

Speaker 14 if an American can't have dinner in the quiet of the corner of a restaurant with whoever, his wife or his, you know, friends, family, we've lost something literally essential as a society.

Speaker 14 So I hope that that restaurant stood up for them.

Speaker 10 I remember Ted Cruz during the- And by the way, though, like, why, why the Treasury Secretary?

Speaker 10 Like, if you're going to do this to anybody, Trump, Heg Seth, I don't know, but like, why the Treasury Secretary? It's the wrong, but

Speaker 10 there's more. I want to show you.
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Speaker 10 There is a Michigan state senator by the name of Mallory McMorrow, and she's running for U.S. Senate.
And here is what she had to say at a local town hall this week, SAT7.

Speaker 10 So I'm a Notre Dame grad, and Amy Coney Barrett coming out of my university makes me embarrassed.

Speaker 10 Just on a personal level, I talked to somebody yesterday who said they saw her with Brett Kavanaugh at a tailgate last weekend. I was like, I would not be able to control myself.
That would be bad.

Speaker 10 But there would be fears thrown in people's faces.

Speaker 10 Nice. So she would like to be a U.S.
Senator. Just in case you may have forgotten this book, but you're going to remember it when I show it to you.
She is the, again, Michigan State

Speaker 10 representative, senator, who

Speaker 10 with my note from my team reads, lizard tongue, who spoke at the Democratic National Convention and had a very bad case of dry mouth. Remember with the tongue?

Speaker 14 I did not remember. I had not seen this actually.
This is amazing.

Speaker 10 We're showing a 41-second.

Speaker 10 Look so many times with the tongue. It keeps coming way out of the mouth to try to find some saliva.

Speaker 10 So she's super nervous just to give a speech in front of a bunch of party faithful people who are going to love everything she says. But she's a tough guy.
She's a super tough guy, Buck.

Speaker 10 When she sees Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh, if she saw them in public, she'd be throwing bottles of beer at them. Okay,

Speaker 10 sure. Yeah, sure, Mallory.

Speaker 14 That's also criminal. I mean, that's assault.
You can't do that. If you do that, you should be arrested and you should be prosecuted, right? This isn't free speech.
I mean, she's openly

Speaker 14 at least bragging about how she would break the law because she disagrees with Supreme Court justices, too. I mean, that's particularly egregious.
Look,

Speaker 14 the left, there are some things that are just broadly true and they really can't be said enough. And I think sometimes people are concerned about saying it.

Speaker 14 One of them is you're looking at your background.

Speaker 10 Yeah, sorry, my background.

Speaker 14 I just, I don't know what happened here. I was like, I offended the gods.
My background just changed.

Speaker 14 There are a couple of things. One is that the Democrat Party, if you're going to be a criminal, if you're going to be a felon, it's the Democrat Party that is your home.
I think if you're going to

Speaker 14 replace

Speaker 14 religion, spirituality, a sense of something more important than the here and now with politics, you're also a Democrat.

Speaker 14 And that leads to a whole lot of mental illness infused into one's politics and policies. And this is why you see the behaviors that you do.

Speaker 14 This is why you have people who would not be violent at all. Like, does anyone think that, you know, whatever her name is?

Speaker 14 I mean, I'm partial to redheads because I married one, but this redhead is doing, she's doing the team injustice. You know, this is not good for team redheads.
Lizard tongue. You know? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Lizard tongue.

Speaker 14 You know, really.

Speaker 7 I mean,

Speaker 10 you know how to drink more water. I'm not sure what it is, but it's between you and your doctor.

Speaker 10 Probably it's behavior like that, like we just saw, in addition to just their lackluster messaging and policies and what we're going to talk about in a minute, like the DEI and its impact on actual Americans that the Dems have been pushing, that led to this situation as outlined by CNN's Harry Enton.

Speaker 10 Watch this, SOT 7B from Thursday.

Speaker 23 Democrats, in the minds of the American public, are lower than the Dead Sea. The lowest ever.

Speaker 10 Look at this.

Speaker 23 Overall, they are 55 points underwater. Their approval rating is south of 20%.

Speaker 23 It's even worse when you look at independents. Look at this.
Negative 61 points. That means that their approval rating is 61 points lower than their disapproval rating.

Speaker 23 Quinnipiac has been polling this question for the better part of the 21st century. They have never found Democrats, at least those in Congress, in worse shape than they are right now.

Speaker 10 Worst ever, Buck Sexton. So I know the conventional wisdom is the Dems are going to win the midterms, and I actually also believe that, but it's not totally lost.

Speaker 10 I mean, there is more than ample weakness on the Dems side to exploit between now and November.

Speaker 14 Yes, I'm concerned

Speaker 14 because

Speaker 14 when you look at what's really motivating people right now, so there's a little bit of a challenge here with, and I actually said this to the president when I saw him some months back, maybe it was during the summer.

Speaker 14 I said, sir, my complaint for you, if I could have a complaint, is that you secured the border so quickly that now that's baked in and everyone just sort of assumes like, oh, okay, so we have a secure border now, right?

Speaker 14 I mean, it's it's a little bit of what have you done for me lately thinking on this? Because we're not talking about that. The deportations, which is the

Speaker 14 harder harder issue to handle and also the one where there could be more downside,

Speaker 14 that I think is something that's going to continue to be playing out in front of cameras and more, there's more challenge with that. Affordability, we're going to hear that word, right?

Speaker 14 So the immigration thing, we've got a big win, but I don't think that's going to really mobilize people in the midterms.

Speaker 14 It's going to be all about how expensive is housing, how expensive is food, and what do people feel like about their health care and their healthcare premiums.

Speaker 14 And the Republicans, you know, it's their economy, right? This is the challenge you run into with, yeah, Biden had the worst inflation in 40 years, but

Speaker 14 the truth is it's Trump's, it's his show now, and it's Scott Besson's show, and they're going to be held responsible one way or another

Speaker 14 for what's going on.

Speaker 10 Well, I think that's what Trump was doing on

Speaker 10 Wednesday night, trying to get out there and rejigger the messaging on it. I want to keep going.
I mentioned that.

Speaker 14 Did you think that was a good,

Speaker 14 though?

Speaker 14 a good speech. I just, I was a little, I thought it wasn't really, it was like he was.
No, it did nothing. It came across like he was frustrated with people who were frustrated with the prices.

Speaker 14 And I'm like, Trump, you are so much better on the economy than these lunatics.

Speaker 10 I know. And I also just felt like it was so obvious.
Like, again, try to make it more clever that you're not just giving a campaign rally before people go home for Christmas.

Speaker 10 You know, it's like, I don't know. You got to be careful.

Speaker 10 You just got to be careful about telling them everything's great and the tariffs are wonderful and

Speaker 10 inflation is no longer a problem.

Speaker 10 At this time of year in particular, when people, everyone feels stretched, you know, where he did the speech, what, 10 days before Christmas, less than. Everybody has overspent.

Speaker 10 They've probably gone out of their budget because they love their kids and everybody wants to give their kids a magical. Christmas and so on and Hanukkah, all of it.

Speaker 10 So you've had holiday parties that you couldn't afford to throw and you went to ones where you, whatever. So it's not a great time to be telling everybody it's all great.

Speaker 10 I think honesty is better, but you know, Trump is the quintessential marketing guy.

Speaker 10 He would never resort to just like cold, hard honesty, like it hurts and I know it hurts, but I swear that part where it gets better is coming soon.

Speaker 14 There's one part of it that Trump, Trump keeps saying things like, it's a fill-in-the-blank hoax. And I know what he is saying.

Speaker 14 And this, by the way, this is with the... Epstein files.
This is with affordability.

Speaker 14 What he's saying is the Democrat narrative on this is a like that this is my fault or that I'm hiding or whatever that they're lying to you. I want him to go back to fake news.

Speaker 14 That's a way better shorthand because when he says the affordability, which he's, you know, they've been running with this constantly at MS Now, by the way, you know, I watch Morning Joe sometimes for fun, for amusement.

Speaker 14 It's MS Now.

Speaker 14 But he says affordability is a hoax, Megan. And people go, no, that's not a hoax.
He doesn't mean that the prices aren't high and this isn't a challenge.

Speaker 14 He means Democrats saying that his tariffs or his choices or whatever have caused this is the hoax. And I just think that's him.

Speaker 14 Again, people think in soundbites, as you know, people vote based on soundbites. And I think we need to clean that up a little bit.

Speaker 10 I have a shocking story to tell you about Joe Scarborough.

Speaker 14 Oh.

Speaker 10 He and I actually had a nice moment this week. I went to the Mediaite party for 2025.

Speaker 10 It's where this website that writes about media clips and media personalities invites a bunch of people in the media to come to this party and sort of it's the one time of year where you cross paths with people who you may not be able to stand, people you've been criticizing, people have been ripping you, and it's kind of like détente for a night, and it's nice.

Speaker 10 I like it. And believe it or not, Joe Scarborough came over to me and I was like, oh God, I don't know where this is going.
It could go any number of places.

Speaker 10 And he said something really sweet about Mark Halperin,

Speaker 10 who is his friend. And it was something to the effect of, thanks for helping Mark get back on his feet.

Speaker 10 And I was like, I love Mark Halperin. You know, thanks for saying that.
And it was sincere. And he was like genuinely warm.
And I was like, you know what?

Speaker 10 Just a good reminder as we go into the holidays that these people who we all rip on and who rip on us, we're all human. We're in the same game.
We have plenty of fodder to pick back up with tomorrow.

Speaker 10 But

Speaker 10 I don't know. It was, it kind of restored my faith in humanity that, like, that was sweet.

Speaker 10 And he knows I've ripped on him endlessly, but he made a point of putting that to the side because he cares about his friend. And I do too.
So it was a nice moment.

Speaker 14 Well, I'm sure, honestly,

Speaker 14 if I were able to don my zip sweater and join Joe out on the croquet field or something for a few minutes, I think we would have a great time at the country club together.

Speaker 14 I think we would get along famously. We're two guys with side swoop hair part.
He probably, just like me, had the same hair when he was like five years old, never changed it.

Speaker 14 You know, we've both gone through 20 pairs of top ciders over our lives, lots of boat shoes, even though we don't vote that much. I mean, Joe and I probably have a lot in common.

Speaker 14 But I would say one thing, you brought up Mark Halpern. It's funny because we've played a lot of his clips

Speaker 14 on radio for his analysis to just sort of work

Speaker 14 his insights into the conversation. And if I may say so, this is, and not just because I'm in the Christmas spirit and I'm basically on Christmas break, other than doing your show.

Speaker 14 Um, you have a great eye for talent, Megan, and no real talent.

Speaker 14 Now, of course, you were the first person to ever put me on in prime time at Fox News when you had three plus million viewers in the 9 p.m.

Speaker 10 It didn't take much to see you at Fox News. It did not take.
I wish I could say it was my genius, but it was very obvious.

Speaker 14 You're first, number one. You never forget, never forget, first primetime host.

Speaker 10 No, apparently, you do. You do, because I have a, I, i have a do you have people

Speaker 14 believe that shapiro is not as grateful as you are i was gonna say you have that is the one thing that for me i never and i'm sure you're the same way because i at a at a at a lesser level have been able to also now because i've been doing this for 15 years uh to help people out i never require thank you and i never require payback but people who go in the opposite direction when i've helped them

Speaker 14 Megan, I've had people who want to come on and like sell their book on my show. And I'm like, you unfollowed me on Twitter.

Speaker 10 What are you doing? Yeah. Oh my God, Buck.

Speaker 10 If I could tell you, like, my basic rule is if you're going to be my so-called friend and keep tagging me on Twitter with posts attacking me, like, I'll let you get away with one, maybe two.

Speaker 10 You start doing it regularly, and I unfollow you. Oh, dude.
Like, that's why would I keep you in my timeline? If you just, like, you're supposed to be my friend.

Speaker 10 And there's this one particular person who I did this with who's now out there railing and crying in his soup every day about how I unfollowed him. Guess why?

Speaker 10 You kept tagging me on attacks against me. What Why would I continue to follow you? It's just, it's so pathetic.
And when it's a so-called friend or somebody who you've helped,

Speaker 10 yeah, it's particularly galling. Zero loyalty.

Speaker 14 Yeah. And we all know, it's funny too in the business.

Speaker 14 I think everybody knows the people who are, who are stand up and who for their people will, I have a standing rule on radio and I tell the audiences because I want them to be fully informed of this.

Speaker 14 And I'll say, Because sometimes I'll send in a clip of somebody and even people, as you know, I'm sure you have friends like this too, who have gone fully, and I would say even maybe psychotically anti-Trump, but they're friends of mine, or I've known them for years, or I've worked with them in the past, and I will not hit a friend of mine on the air because if I, if I, you know, if I am going to criticize somebody in what we do, if I see them in person, I'm going to stand behind what I said and be like, yeah, you deserve that.

Speaker 14 You know, I'm not going to see them in person and be like, hey, let's go for a drink. We're great friends.
I'd take a hit at you.

Speaker 14 And so to keep everything on the up and up, I don't hit my friends publicly. And I note very clearly who does, because if they'll do it to anyone, they'll do it to you.

Speaker 14 It's also a bit like a good rule. By the way, this is a rule for everybody, not just for people like you and me who work in media.

Speaker 14 People that do this thing of sharing publicly private text messages when they get into a spat with somebody, dead to me.

Speaker 12 Yep.

Speaker 14 Dead to me forever. Never again.

Speaker 3 Never again.

Speaker 10 No, honestly, like.

Speaker 10 There are some people who are coming for me right now who I could totally humiliate with their prior texts, but I won't. I won't because I agree with you.
That's just bad form.

Speaker 10 What's meant to be a private text should stay a private text. It's like, come on, grow up.
But yeah, no, it's very annoying. And it's just part of our life.

Speaker 10 Now, I will say this, government officials are different. Like, I'm rooting for everybody in Trump's government.
I am. Like, I love cash.

Speaker 10 I love Dan, but they have to get ripped on every once in a while because they're in, you know, these public positions. So that's a little more complicated, but we have to do it.

Speaker 10 If we don't do it, then we're Jake Tapper, then we're MSNBC, we're Rachel Maddow, right? So it's like, it gets trickier.

Speaker 10 And hopefully those guys are all big boys who understand that's the nature of our business. And in my experience, they all have been very fine with that.
They understand it.

Speaker 14 Yes. No, I think that is, again,

Speaker 14 there's criticizing the roles that some, or rather the actions that somebody takes in a role

Speaker 14 and how their decision making has gone in that context. And then there's going after somebody sort of personally or trying to humiliate them.
And I think that you do have an obligation.

Speaker 14 When somebody has the kind of power. I mean, look, Pete Hegstas, a friend of mine, right? It's a friend of yours.

Speaker 14 Pete is the secretary of war and they're blowing up boats full of people. Now,

Speaker 14 I am not opposed to their rationale for this, but I'm just saying that's a lot of power to have, right? You know, so if somebody's doing,

Speaker 14 if you think somebody has erred in their decision making and they have the power of life and death over other human beings, I'm just using this as an example.

Speaker 14 You know, you have to hold that to account at some level, right? And, you know, if let's say, if they blew up the wrong boat, I'd have to say, guys, this is a really big problem, right?

Speaker 14 I couldn't just say, oh, you know,

Speaker 10 stuff happens. Yeah, or you're a shill.
You know, you're a shill, so you can't become a shill. Okay, I want to keep going because I really do want to get to this.

Speaker 10 It was published in Compact magazine on Monday. It's almost 9,000 words in length.
It's entitled The Lost Generation, and it's by Los Angeles-based writer Jacob Savage.

Speaker 10 He tried to publish it in, he told to Matt Taibbi, that he tried to publish it in the Atlantic, but they demanded changes to it. So he said no.

Speaker 10 He said they were interested, but then they came back and were like, it has to only be about you and your experience in Hollywood. You could do some stats or whatever.

Speaker 10 They didn't want him to make it more broadly about the plight of white men. Like, it can just be a personal story.
That's it. Beyond that, no.
So he said no, and he published it in Compact.

Speaker 10 And it's devastating. And what the heart of it is, is that white men have been utterly devastated, especially millennial white men, by DEI.
That this is not just some term, as J.D.

Speaker 10 Vance pointed out the other day, that means extra, you know, sensitivity sessions on implicit bias at your workplace that you roll your eyes at.

Speaker 10 No, a generation of white men have had their career prospects obliterated, not to mention their self-worth, because of this pernicious ideology that was accepted at every level of society, from schools to colleges to sports to corporate America, Hollywood media, you name it.

Speaker 10 And they go through, yes, this writer, Jacob's experience as

Speaker 10 trying to get a job in Hollywood, but also that of multiple other men who.

Speaker 10 Here's one that jumped out at me. His name is Ethan, and he's an Ivy League-educated social scientist.
He couldn't get a job in academia because of DEI.

Speaker 10 He was a finalist for a 10-year-track position five times,

Speaker 10 flown out again and again for interviews and meet and greets and departmental dinners. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

Speaker 10 At a certain point, he began to see himself the way the search committees did. Listen to this, Buck.
Other identifiers or other things I valued about myself have receded.

Speaker 10 Being a white man, meanwhile, moved into the foreground in a way that I didn't expect. He was taught to loathe it.

Speaker 10 He was taught to see it as something for which he needed to apologize or feel bad about, which is disgusting. And now

Speaker 10 The roosters are coming home to roost. The chickens are coming home to roost with the real life toll of this hideous ideology becoming more public.

Speaker 14 Well, Megan, I'm a white male millennial, actually. I qualify as somebody in this cohort.
And so this is very personal for me.

Speaker 14 This is very personal for a lot of my friends, for my brothers who are close to my age. We saw this.
We dealt with this. And people need to speak about this.

Speaker 14 You have to remove a lot of the enforced dogma and doctrine and you have to sort of brush away the nonsense from your mind on this. This was just explicit discrimination.

Speaker 14 I mean, this was actually, and there's been this thing for a while where they'll say reverse discrimination or, oh, it's so hard to be a white man or whatever.

Speaker 14 No, it's not so hard to be a white man if you're a boomer who's already got, you know, enough stock options to retire or is working on the Aspen ski house

Speaker 14 or the equivalent in academia. You're already a tenured professor at Harvard.
You've already had your career.

Speaker 14 They fed white millennial men's futures into the wood chipper and they felt righteous doing it.

Speaker 14 And we all saw it and we were all being told, sorry, we have to, like we were like the human sacrifice in order to atone for America's history of racism. But it wasn't even just racism.

Speaker 14 It was, they were doing this to benefit Latinos and they were doing this for Native Americans and they were doing this for women in fields, you know, STEM where there weren't enough women and they were doing this in all these different contexts.

Speaker 14 You sit here and you say, how can it be moral to tell somebody, I was going to hire you, you're the best person for the job, but you're white and you're a guy. So no.
This happened.

Speaker 14 And one of the ways that you knew that it was immoral, by the way, this is how I,

Speaker 14 my first realization, I was in like eighth grade, but my first realization, like, I'm a conservative or I'm a Republican, was around this issue.

Speaker 14 And honestly, it had to do with the double standards that I saw playing out over and over again through institutions for behavior, for college admissions, and then later on for

Speaker 14 jobs.

Speaker 10 What year would that have been, Buck, just to give me an idea of where we are?

Speaker 14 I mean, I graduated college in 2004. So

Speaker 14 I would have been old, you know, I'm at the very oldest edge of millennials, but my brother is five years younger than me, for example. He went to Georgetown.

Speaker 14 And I mean, it was just known on campuses during the hiring. And remember, this is for people,

Speaker 14 your early trajectory can make makes a huge difference, not just in your career, but also your earning potential, your ability to build a family and live in a major American city and support that family.

Speaker 14 We were just told, like, look, if you're going to try to get a job at Goldman Sachs, like they're going to hire women and black students way before you because they've done it.

Speaker 14 Now, People would say, but Goldman Sachs is full of white guys or, you know, Morgan Stanley, same thing.

Speaker 14 Yeah, at the partner level and at the VP, like they already had, you know, been at the trough for decades. It was the people, the millennials who were coming up.
And this is what this piece gets to.

Speaker 14 And, and there were real consequences for this too. TV writing turned into garbage in the last 10 years.
Garbage, top to bottom, all over the place.

Speaker 14 And it's because the writer's rooms were full of second and third tier skilled writers because they were the preferred ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation or they were trans, or whatever it may be.

Speaker 14 The reason this has been such a phenomenon, this article, and I've shared it and I've talked to my family about it and J.D.

Speaker 14 Vance and everybody, is that this is a truth that we were all observing, but we weren't allowed to say.

Speaker 14 You weren't allowed to say this.

Speaker 14 I wasn't allowed to point out that I went to a college that turned down 85% of the applicants, Megan, but they had to have a special summer course for basic math and basic reading for black and Native American and some other groups of students.

Speaker 14 Like,

Speaker 14 I mean, I had friends who got like 1550 on the SAT and at 4-0s. They didn't get in, but were doing basic math.
It's still happening.

Speaker 14 I know it's still happening, but at least now we can talk about it.

Speaker 14 Before it was, what we were being told was this was making no difference whatsoever to the quality of the applicant, to the skills of the, or, you know, to the skills of the person, and therefore it wouldn't make any difference in these institutions.

Speaker 14 That is a lie. It is obviously a lie.
And you've seen this now.

Speaker 10 And you know what else? You know what else? This is an important point. It's illegal.
Yes. It's totally fucking illegal.

Speaker 10 And the great piece of this story now, today in almost 2026 America is, well, I'll just play it.

Speaker 10 The chairwoman of the EEOC, Andrea Lucas, has something that you need to hear. Take a listen.

Speaker 15 I'm Andrea Lucas, chair of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
Are you a white male who's experienced discrimination at work based on your race or sex?

Speaker 15 You may have a claim to recover money under federal civil rights laws. Contact the EOC as soon as possible.
Time limits are typically strict for filing a claim.

Speaker 15 The EOC is the federal agency charged with enforcing federal anti-discrimination law against businesses and other private sector employers.

Speaker 15 The EOC is committed to identifying, attacking, and eliminating all forms of race and sex discrimination, including against white male applicants and employees.

Speaker 15 Check out eoc.gov to learn more and read our one-page explainer about DEI-related discrimination.

Speaker 14 That's fantastic.

Speaker 10 Hallelujah.

Speaker 14 I was going to say it. That was great.
That was like a Christmas miracle. Everybody who's been, every white male listening, if you've been discriminating, please sue.
Please do this.

Speaker 14 Because by the way, the next administration, they're going to, all of a sudden, you're going to have to use the preferred pronoun, if it's a Democrat, but you're going going to have to use the preferred pronouns and we're going to go back.

Speaker 14 They're going to try to find ways around this and all this other nonsense. They need to feel the pain of the discrimination that they engaged in.

Speaker 14 And everybody needs to be willing to go back and say, why, why weren't more people vocal about this? Why weren't more people willing to say,

Speaker 14 clearly you're taking people with lesser skills, with less impressive credentials, whether it's for academia, for writing in Hollywood, for big law. I mean, just go down the list.

Speaker 14 And I mean, this is what was going on, and it was systemic across the whole country.

Speaker 14 And finally, now someone says, and the problem was, Megan, they kept saying, oh, well, look, these institutions still, it's still 80% white, or it's still, you know, 65% white men or whatever.

Speaker 14 At the top, maybe. But this is where the millennial aspect of it, this policy was instituted in a way where the people who really suffered were roughly my age cohort within 10 years.

Speaker 14 So again, I saw this up close and personal. I mean, I saw who was getting jobs out of Amherst at all these top firms.
And if you were the right ethnicity, you got a job offer from everyone.

Speaker 10 Oh, I mean, of course, we all see it still happening. And

Speaker 10 it's breeding

Speaker 10 race resentment. Well, of course.
It's true. They love the story.
It's breeding a complete backlash. The very thing they claimed existed that didn't, they've created.

Speaker 14 They love the story at CNN where they'll go, oh, you know, here is like, here is a student.

Speaker 14 And it's generally, you know, a student who is black, usually a black female, who got into every Ivy League school and we're all supposed to clap. And I want to be like, okay, what were her SATs?

Speaker 14 I'm just wondering, because I had friends who got perfect SATs, perfect SATs, who didn't get in to

Speaker 14 any Ivy League school on the first go-around.

Speaker 10 A lot of them don't get in anywhere and they don't even just apply to Ivy Leagues now. I mean, I've seen it happen.

Speaker 10 There was that article in the New York Post a couple months ago from the Asian kid who like literally had a perfect score on the SAT, had a perfect GPA. Asians get it even worse than whites.

Speaker 10 Yes, that's true. And didn't get in anywhere because they really don't like the Asians.
I mean, it's blatant race discrimination. And this is post the U.S.

Speaker 10 Supreme Court decision saying that's illegal. You can't do that.
This is just like

Speaker 14 a mirror image of the civil rights area you have to actually enforce, which means you have to sue. And

Speaker 14 I know Harmie Dillon at the Department of Justice has got her eye on this.

Speaker 14 We need more people to take action here because, yeah, they're just ignoring it. These institutions are trying to ignore as much as they can.

Speaker 14 If you look at the admission rates at Harvard for different ethnicities, they've stayed pretty static. And we know that they're playing games with this stuff.
So this is a

Speaker 14 hugely important conversation for the country. It has created a tremendous amount of resentment, and rightfully so.

Speaker 14 And, you know, the thing that I think galls a lot of people, Megan, and this is for all the white guys around my age listening to this, is that you were kind of

Speaker 14 ridiculed in the most surly and condescending fashion. Like, oh, it's so hard to be a white male.
It's like, what?

Speaker 14 I went to school with people. I went to a scholarship high school and I went, there were plenty of white kids there, plenty of minorities there.

Speaker 14 But we're told that it's so easy for us. How is it easy if you're being discriminated against when you're applying to college?

Speaker 14 You're being discriminated against when you're applying for jobs, being discriminated against when it comes to promotions. Like, where does this white privilege thing kick in exactly?

Speaker 10 I mean, you know, and on top of it, you're being blamed for all society's ills, for nothing you've done. Nothing you've done.

Speaker 10 Sins of the father, the grandfather the great great people who were here when you weren't here to whom you have no relation everything's your fault well this is also ties directly into why the democrat party is in such a bad position right now because um

Speaker 14 men have just men who have like normal testosterone levels and see reality for what it is are just fed up with the democrat party there's like this is this place is a joke um and it's in part because of this because black men too

Speaker 10 not just white men black men across the board

Speaker 14 across the board but they realize that this is just just the Democrat Party lives in this weird fantasy land where you're not allowed to say what the most obvious, you're not allowed to observe.

Speaker 14 The Democrat Party is engaged in a constant war on observation, and people get tired of that.

Speaker 10 Yeah, big time. All right, I got to go, but I want to end on something positive.
And it is a story out of the Bondi Beach. shooting that happened in Australia.

Speaker 10 There were at least two civilians who tried to fight back against that father-son execution team waving the ISIS flag all over their cars as they took the lives of Jewish gatherers trying to celebrate Hanukkah on the beach.

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 10 one of the men, one of the civilians, you see it here, who attacked

Speaker 10 one of the shooters is named Ahmed Al-Ahmed. He tried to get the gun away.
and did get the gun away and eventually wound up getting, losing the gun, and he got shot himself, unfortunately.

Speaker 10 And he's okay, he's in the hospital. So, people are hailing this guy as a hero because at least he tried.
You know, eventually, we would see video of female cops cowering behind their cars.

Speaker 10 And here, you have a genuinely brave, heroic civilian doing the right thing. He had no gun, just charged the guy and got his gun.
Anyway,

Speaker 10 there's been one of those public campaigns to get him something, like a check or a donation, and

Speaker 10 they did really well

Speaker 10 2.5 million dollars has been raised and they presented to him um this is this was posted on tick tock take a look at sot 15.

Speaker 24 i came here with news of people around the world 43 000 people they're in the hospital

Speaker 6 they raised you 2.5 million dollars i deserve it every penny

Speaker 25 my blessing thank you so much

Speaker 24 if you could say one thing to the people that donated, what would you tell them?

Speaker 25 Stand

Speaker 25 to each other,

Speaker 25 all

Speaker 25 human beings

Speaker 25 and forget, put everything back behind the back

Speaker 25 and keep going to save

Speaker 24 life.

Speaker 25 Save life.

Speaker 6 When I

Speaker 25 do

Speaker 25 save the people, I do it from the heart.

Speaker 25 This country,

Speaker 25 best country in the world. The best country in the world.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 25 we're not going to stand and

Speaker 25 keep watching. Enough, it's enough.

Speaker 10 Amazing. Amazing.
You've got Ahmed Al-Ahmed working against these ISIS terrorists to save Jews on a beach and then says, I deserve this.

Speaker 10 2.5 million and reminds us all to stand for life.

Speaker 14 It's fantastic.

Speaker 14 And I would just say I would like to see this become a bit more of what the standard is, not only the standard of action, which is that people run to save their fellow human beings in a situation like this, but also that as societies, we should absolutely

Speaker 14 reward.

Speaker 14 bravery, courage, saving the lives of fellow human beings in a situation like this. I mean, this should be the standard.

Speaker 14 So I'm happy to see that this guy, you know, certainly has enough money to, I think, retire comfortably in Melbourne or wherever, and he deserves it. And there should be more of this.

Speaker 14 And it's, you know, there's a whole lot to talk about with Bondi. We'll talk about that maybe another time.
But in the meantime, this was the one bright spot of... what was a horrendous day.

Speaker 14 And this guy deserves every penny.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Merry Christmas, my friend. Happy New Year.
Thanks for everything this year.

Speaker 14 Always. Thank you so much, Megan.
See you in the new year.

Speaker 10 Yeah. See you then.
Buck Sexton, everyone. Before we go, a word on what we're doing here.
We are going on vacay with my family. And

Speaker 10 we have a bunch of good content for you next week, which I think will be new to you if you don't watch all of the MK Media shows. And then the second week,

Speaker 10 that week from Christmas into New Year's, we have all new content for you. It's our true crime Christmas week, which always does well because nothing says Christmas like true crime.

Speaker 10 It'll technically be post-Christmas, but you get the point. So that'll be all new content Monday through Friday of the second week, and I hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 10 And I really hope that you enjoy your time with your families, with your loved ones, with your friends, around the Christmas tree, around church on Christmas Eve, which is so magical, and that you get back to what matters, which is not online stuff.

Speaker 10 Stop focusing on the darkness that's been in the news lately. Just try to spend real time with your loved ones and the things that make you happy and make you you, right? Who makes you you?

Speaker 10 It starts within you, but it's definitely got massive deposits every day from the people you surround yourself with.

Speaker 10 So choose well and amplify what's good for you, minimize what's not, have some downtime, some quiet time offline with a book, with some music, in church. Get back in touch with God if that's for you.

Speaker 10 And in between now and then, I will see you tonight from the stage in Arizona at Turning Point USA, where I expect to make some news.

Speaker 10 Before we leave this program, we're going to play for you an interview we did the other day with Peyton McNabb.

Speaker 10 She was the teenager who was hurt by a boy pretending to to be a girl in North Carolina in that volleyball game in a moment that changed the world.

Speaker 10 It was one of the seminal moments in the fight for girls' and women's rights in sports and in this entire area. And she, for years now, has become the butt of a joke.

Speaker 10 People think she made it up, made up her injuries. There's been questions about whether the kid who hit her was actually a boy.

Speaker 10 And she actually has new video that is shocking from this boy, pretending to be a girl, about the situation that she's never released before, but she's finally ready to do it. That's next.

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Speaker 10 We have quite an update for you now in a story that we first brought to you years ago about a female athlete whose life was turned upside down following a head injury she received after a male competing against her during a high school volleyball game back in 2022 spiked the ball in her face so hard she actually suffered a brain injury.

Speaker 10 Peyton McNabb joined our show back in 2023 to share that story, describing how that injury impacted her everyday life.

Speaker 10 Well, over the past few years, Peyton, who has continued to speak out to protect women's sports as an ambassador for the group Independent Women, has gotten abused repeatedly by the hateful left.

Speaker 10 Everyone from John Oliver to many others, including a comedian who just this month went viral for making fun of Peyton's injury, decided that she was fair game, that she overstated the extent of her injuries, and that the trans athlete, so-called trans athlete, male to female, is really the one we should feel sorry for here.

Speaker 10 Some have even questioned whether she even got hit in the face by a trans player. Well, today she has, for us, exclusive video.

Speaker 10 of this athlete who is a man pretending to be a woman who injured her years ago while in high school who shows zero remorse for the pain he caused her. Peyton, welcome back to the show.
How you doing?

Speaker 21 Hi, Megan. Thank you so much for having me.
I'm doing well.

Speaker 10 Of course. So you were in high school in North Carolina and just remind the audience what happened.
You were what year in high school and we'll show the video, but tell us what happened.

Speaker 21 Yeah, so it was my senior year of high school. I went into this game.
There was a guy on the other side of the net. I'm trying trying to be as encouraging and motivating as I can.

Speaker 21 I've played against him for four years at that point, but it was completely allowed in North Carolina because nothing had happened for them to ban it.

Speaker 21 So I went to the game and I get completely knocked out unconscious for about 30 seconds while the other team laughs and I'm in a fencing position.

Speaker 21 The trainer comes up to me, asks me if I know what just happened to me. And I said, yeah, the boy on y'all's team just knocked me out.

Speaker 21 He rushed me off the court he did one little finger test on me and said I was good and can go all back into play thankfully I did not go back into play because I ended up going to the doctor and finding out that I had a concussion a partial brain bleed and permanent whiplash

Speaker 10 oh so awful so this happens to you and you found the temerity the guts to speak out about it And then instead of calling you and apologizing, you told me this the first time you came on with your story, the male, pretending to be a female who did this to you was very snarky to you behind the scenes.

Speaker 21 He was, showed absolutely no remorse and said that he's living rent-free in my head, which, you know, I, my whole life had changed at this point because of him and for him to have no remorse, of course, which is what we see time and time again.

Speaker 21 I don't expect anything less of him, but for that to happen, you know, I was 17 at the time and

Speaker 21 I didn't know what to think. And it it was such a different time for me.
And how far I've come in the past few years, even from the first time I spoke to you about this, I've grown so much.

Speaker 21 And I know exactly what I'm saying. And I'm confident in what I'm saying because I know that I'm right.

Speaker 21 And the other side, you know, as much as they want to tear women like me down and silence us, we're just never going to because this fight is worth way more than that.

Speaker 21 And I've known that from the beginning.

Speaker 10 There's a reason this happened to you because you

Speaker 10 seem so earnest to me.

Speaker 10 Like I've, of course, believe you 100%, but like you also, I think, are a very effective messenger because, because you do seem just like a regular person, you know, you don't, you don't have like an extra level of media polish.

Speaker 10 You just seem normal and like a normal girl to whom this happened who found the guts to say something about it while this guy was remorseless, you say behind the scenes.

Speaker 10 And now you contacted me privately to tell me that you had but no one else had seen two videos of this guy talking about

Speaker 10 you and himself these videos show how sorry he is for himself and the disdain for you still remorseless now when when were these made i'm going to show the audience both of them but when were they made They were made shortly after all of this happened, probably like a month or two, maybe.

Speaker 21 He posted them on TikTok, which we got right off of there. And then he shortly after deleted them.
And I've been holding on to these because, you know, no one believes me.

Speaker 21 They say that I'm lying or that it was actually a girl or whatever and that there's no proof that what I'm saying is even true.

Speaker 21 And I've felt no need to explain myself or to prove myself because I know what happened and everyone else knows what happened, but to the public, I'm lying and I'm covering it up. So I just thought

Speaker 21 I wasn't planning on sharing these, but if they don't believe me, maybe they'll believe him saying it himself.

Speaker 10 Let's watch. Okay, we're going to play the first one here where this is him lamenting

Speaker 10 what's happened to him in his senior year as a result of all this. Senior year recap.

Speaker 10 If you want to have a senior year just like me, follow these steps. One, endure the hell that is school volleyball.

Speaker 10 Two, hit a girl in the face and make national news getting national hate.

Speaker 10 I was on Fox News twice.

Speaker 10 Number three,

Speaker 10 find out that your athletic director and your coach have been outing you to every school you played since freshman year

Speaker 10 against your will. Number four,

Speaker 10 get kicked off your old club volleyball team that you've been playing on for seven years. Total Drama Island style.

Speaker 10 I got voted off by the parents. Number five, try for the only other good club team near you and you get cut because of the national news that you're a faggot.

Speaker 10 Number six, contemplate quitting volleyball. Number seven, don't quit volleyball.
Number eight, commit to the Kennesaw State on a full scholarship.

Speaker 10 Number nine, get your scholarship taken away because you told the coach that you're a tranny.

Speaker 10 The

Speaker 10 level of what appears to be some sort of mental break there is alarming. This person has made himself the entire victim.
There's a re, you lost your scholarship because it's for girls.

Speaker 10 That's a scholarship for a girl, which you're not. And he's lamenting that the coaches told opposing players he was on the team that these players were going to have to face.

Speaker 10 Meanwhile, it's a question of safety. And he's talking about like what he lost academically or athletically after he injured you.
Why do you think that is?

Speaker 10 You think like parents have a right to know, girls have a right to know.

Speaker 10 This is like he's trying to make himself look all feminine in that clip, but this is a, isn't he very tall and obviously very strong?

Speaker 21 Yeah, exactly. And for him to turn this around and he's.
he's the only victim in all of this. I mean, my senior year was completely ruined too.
I couldn't drive for several months.

Speaker 21 I never played volleyball again.

Speaker 21 And for him to be the victim, and of course, of course it is, because that's what we see over and over again. And he's upset because he can't get girls' opportunities anymore.
Like,

Speaker 21 that's what happens when a guy is on a girls' team. And I don't, I hate to break that to him, but that's just the way it is.
And you had to get a reality check somehow.

Speaker 21 And if you wouldn't have completely altered my life, then you probably still would have had that scholarship, which is unfortunate for me, but all things work out and happen for a reason.

Speaker 21 and I truly do believe that it did happen to me for a reason because I continue to say something about it and I'm not gonna stop and because he shames me on and on TikTok and publicly as much as he can I really don't care and I you know I'm sad that I feel bad for him because he's he's lost and there's something wrong and I pray for him but ultimately he's not the victim here I was and every single girl on that court was the victim that day

Speaker 10 and here's a news flash. You're not a woman, sir, and you never will be.
It doesn't matter how much makeup you do, how much you inflate your lips, what you do to your hair.

Speaker 10 You are male, and you will stay male no matter what hormones you inject, what surgeries you have, or how much you try to act when you get in front of a camera. You're a boy.
You're a man.

Speaker 10 That's what you should deal with. That's reality.
Here's the second clip, equally infuriating, and he addresses you directly. Watch.

Speaker 10 Number 29, the girl you hit in the face goes to the North Carolina General Assembly and speaks about her experience

Speaker 10 trying to get anti-trans legislation passed. The whole situation of you hitting her in the face is brought back to life.
Great.

Speaker 10 That is exactly what I needed in my senior year. Thank you, Peyton.

Speaker 10 So, no question, there he is on camera admitting he was the one who hit you in the face. No denial.
And blaming you for testifying about it when asked on the should we ban boys from girls sports bill.

Speaker 21 Yeah, like,

Speaker 21 like, thank you for completely altering and ruining my life at the time is what I thought.

Speaker 21 You know,

Speaker 21 it's not my fault that you got your stuff taken away. That's, that's what you, that's,

Speaker 21 you know, what comes with pretending to be a girl and invading a girl's space.

Speaker 10 Fraud.

Speaker 21 So like action, like consequence, actions have consequences. And I hate that like he had a reality check so early, but that's just the way it is.

Speaker 21 And it's not my fault that your senior year got ruined.

Speaker 21 That's your fault for pretending and staying in this lie and everyone else around you who continue to lie to you instead of telling you the truth. And, you know, that's not love to me.

Speaker 21 Loving isn't lying. And

Speaker 21 I feel bad for him that he didn't have people that were willing to tell him what the truth was early early on.

Speaker 10 He's got a lot of anger in him. I mean, I would stay away if I were you.
This is, this, this person seems somewhat unhinged to me.

Speaker 10 But he's not the only one. Like when John Oliver did that hit piece on you, Peyton, I almost fell out of my chair.
It was so unfair. And John Oliver has an executive producer who's trans,

Speaker 10 male to female. And so everything John Oliver says is out of this world off

Speaker 10 the rails, just completely unhinged in favor of Trannies. That's who's running his programming.
That's what explains all of his commentary.

Speaker 10 He does not give a shit about young girls or women who are getting hurt.

Speaker 10 He couldn't care less to the point where he actually came for you in a monologue he did in April of 2025, which we got into at length at the time.

Speaker 10 But here's the piece that touches on you and your injury, SOT39.

Speaker 29 The most famous example concerns Peyton McNabb, a three-sport high school athlete who was hit in the face by a spike during a volleyball match.

Speaker 29 She suffered injuries, including a concussion, and started speaking out against the policies that allowed the trans player who spiked the ball to play.

Speaker 29 A concussion is genuinely traumatic, though, for what it's worth, she did go on to play softball in the spring and did pretty well, judging by her school posting this image about her making the all-conference team and a local paper pointing out she helped her team to a 5-0 start.

Speaker 29 And I'm not saying she wasn't injured or that it didn't have some impact on her performance, but a lot of the groups heavily pushing this story seem to be overselling it.

Speaker 10 Hmm. Thoughts on that?

Speaker 21 I mean, a grown man who is talking down on, I was 17 at the time when this happened to me, and I'm trying to

Speaker 21 live a normal life the best I can.

Speaker 21 I'm very thankful and blessed to have come from the community that I came from, who my whole team, all the teams that I played, my officials, coaches, everyone knew what was going on with me, and they were very, very considerate on, you know, if something happened to me, the whole game is stopping to see if i'm okay and that was a really dark time for me and and my family and my community as a whole and something that i would never wish on anyone for them to go through and this grown man is getting on here and making like making fun and light of my situation i would never i could never imagine my dad getting on online and on his show and saying that about a 17 year old girl's injury like i genuinely can't think of that and he is so deranged and it's just so stupid to watch that.

Speaker 21 I didn't even, I couldn't even watch that whole thing because when this all aired, I was also, it was kind of rough because I had just gotten back from the State of the Union and I was getting attacked.

Speaker 21 Like I had gotten attacked earlier on, but it had kind of, you know, how it comes in waves and people don't really say anything for a little while, but I was getting really beat down.

Speaker 21 I was having to stay with my sisters because in a different state because people were trying to find out where I lived. And then this just added more flames to the fire.
And I was mean. And I'm like,

Speaker 21 like, I did not know how to do what to do. And for him to be taking joy, like, there's joy on his face for talking about me that way.
Like, what is wrong with you?

Speaker 21 I would never, I could never imagine.

Speaker 10 Disgusting. What is wrong with him? Something seriously and deep is wrong with John Oliver.
He's being programmed by his tranny producer who's calling the shots over there.

Speaker 10 And he's too much of a weak P-word to stand up to this person and shares the ideology.

Speaker 10 He'd love to see my daughter and everyone else's daughter get the same injury you had and worse, just as long as he feels good about what he's done for the trans community, the ones who are hurting our girls.

Speaker 10 You mentioned the State of the Union. Here, that was a crazy moment where Trump mentioned you.
This is March of 2025. And the Democrats refuse to stand.
What?

Speaker 10 They're against young girls who get hurt by male players standing up for themselves. Here's what happened.

Speaker 22 Three years ago, Peyton McNabb was an all-star high school athlete, one of the best, preparing for a future in college sports.

Speaker 22 But when her girls' volleyball match was invaded by a male, he smashed the ball so hard.

Speaker 22 in Peyton's face, causing traumatic brain injury, partially paralyzing her right side, and ending her athletic career. It was a shot like she's never seen before.
She's never seen anything like it.

Speaker 22 Peyton is here tonight in the gallery, and Peyton, from now on, schools will kick the men off the girls' team or they will lose all federal funding.

Speaker 21 It's such a play, like everything's so fake, and for all of them to to be wearing their pink suits and trying to signal to everyone that they're they're the party for the women and then they refuse to even look at me when I'm getting mentioned for having a brain injury because of a guy in spandex like

Speaker 21 how can you how can you even claim to be the party of women and then you do that like actions speak way louder than what you're wearing and you prove it time and time again that you're not for women and like we've begged and pleaded for you to be on our side and there's women all over the country who are begging for this.

Speaker 21 Like everyone's tired of it. The American people are tired of it, which has also been brought up in multiple, multiple cases because it keeps happening.

Speaker 21 And you can't even look at me when I'm getting recognized. And like, how sad is that? You have to be so sad and deranged.
But I can't even be like, I'm not surprised about it.

Speaker 21 I wasn't surprised about it at the time either because, I mean,

Speaker 21 they've proven themselves over and over again.

Speaker 21 But they didn't even just stand for me. You're too threatening.
Exactly. Like, they're not going to stand for me.
They didn't even stand for Lake and Raleigh's family when they got recognized.

Speaker 21 And like, what is wrong with you? There is something evil and like mentally just deranged about them. And they hide behind the colors that they're wearing.
Like that just makes no sense to me.

Speaker 21 And it infuriated me at that time.

Speaker 10 It's amazing how the bullying continues. Like you got bullied by this trans player.
You've been bullied by some of the biggest names in media.

Speaker 10 And now you get bullied by half of the Democrats or more than half of the Democrats at the State of the Union. And it goes on.
So this happened back in 2022. Here we are in 2025, almost 2026.

Speaker 10 I mentioned this in the intro, but here's this so-called comedian, Stacey Kaye, who is also a trans person, right? I'm told that this person is also trans.

Speaker 10 And this is what Stacey Kay said about you just like a few weeks ago. And it just, it was filmed in September, but it went viral in December at the Denver Comedy Underground here.

Speaker 30 The whole argument is she suffered catastrophic brain damage, right? That she'll never recover from. She'll never be able to have a normal life and this is with her in the room.
They're just

Speaker 30 they're like, look how slow she is.

Speaker 30 She'll never be able to drive.

Speaker 30 And they don't, they don't ever want to show the clip of what happened because it's pretty funny, actually.

Speaker 30 It's a seven-second clip,

Speaker 30 and it's a girl, it's a trans girl, presumably, I'm told, goes up to do a spike, and I can't tell she's trans. Her form is perfect, she looks good at sports, right?

Speaker 30 And then there's Peyton sitting back, like, I don't know, six feet from the net, flat-footed with her hands down like this.

Speaker 30 And then she just gets hit right in the head and falls over like a toddler.

Speaker 30 And I'm like, oh, she was really like this before.

Speaker 30 I don't know if there's a nice way to say this, but she should have been wearing a helmet.

Speaker 30 She should have been out there with the normal people.

Speaker 10 That guy wants to make a pronouncement on normal, on what's normal and what's not. Take off your dress, sir.
Put your pants back on and stop trying to co-opt our identity.

Speaker 10 That dress does not make you a woman. Nothing ever will.

Speaker 21 See see point earlier in response to the trans player who hurt Peyton unbelievable what did you think when you saw that well I mean how desperate for laughs do you have to be for a grown dude in a dress to be making fun of a girl who was 17 at the time who literally suffered a permanent brain injury like how sad is that first of all but it is all deeply rooted from a hatred of women which is the common theme here, you know, like I have things that he'll he'll never have.

Speaker 21 One, I'm actually naturally hilarious but two I'm an actual woman and he will never ever be able to have that he never will it does not matter how many push-up bras you wear how many dresses you wear it's not gonna happen and there's literally that's right you can do to make it happen and I was also thinking like the people laughing behind the scenes that was what was kind of upsetting to me at first because I'm like first of all who's bored enough to even go to a show like this like I can genuinely never think of a time where I would have nothing better to do than to go to one of these shows.

Speaker 21 But then to actually be laughing at a joke like this, at first, I was convinced it was a laughing track because I'm like, it wasn't even funny.

Speaker 21 I'm all about a good joke and making light of a situation. And I'm not soft by all means on making fun or a light of stuff, but that's when it's actually funny.
And there was no punchline.

Speaker 21 Like, there genuinely, it wasn't even a joke. It was just him making fun of a girl who was 17 who got injured by a dude in Spandex.
And now a dude in a dress is laughing about it.

Speaker 21 Like, make that make sense. It sounds like a parody, but that was real life.
And that's who's coming after me for telling the simple truth that you will never be a woman.

Speaker 21 You will never be like me who is an actual woman. And that's what you hate.
So that's what you're attacking. And that's sad for you, but

Speaker 21 there's nothing anyone can do about that, including you.

Speaker 10 And they want it all. They want to have a monthly cycle.
It's a no. They want to get pregnant and have a baby.
You can't. They want to nurse the baby.
Also, a no.

Speaker 10 They want all the things that women come by thanks to God that will never be available to them. They want the softness of our skin.
They want the luxness of our hair.

Speaker 10 They want the beautiful scents that come with a woman's body. It's all a no.
You're a man. You're going to be a hairy, large person with shoulders and hips and legs that we would never have.

Speaker 10 And you will never have a baby. You will never be able to do the miracles that God allowed us to do.
Deal with that.

Speaker 10 Get off the stage, take off the dress, and deal with that instead of attacking a teenager for her brain injury, you sick MFer.

Speaker 10 Okay, I spoke the last word on that, but I do want to get you to say quickly before we go,

Speaker 10 are we feeling good about what's happening with Olympic sports now and the trend? We're not there yet, but the trend we're seeing on this issue in America?

Speaker 21 I think so. I think more people are willing to stand up and say what they actually feel and what they actually think.

Speaker 21 And there was a time when no one could say what we were saying and or they would get canceled or fired or whatever. And I think it's gotten to the point where parents and dads and

Speaker 21 just everyone in general is just sick and tired of it because it's been going on for way too long. And the Olympics, the IOC actually making lie.

Speaker 21 I mean, they said because of scientific studies that men have more

Speaker 21 biological strength than women. Like, obviously, that's what we've been saying for years.

Speaker 21 So it's not just rocket rocket science that they just came up with like obviously but at least they're saying it um I would love for them to give back the medals that the the men took last year um because like what are you doing why why was a man allowed to be able to be in a ring and punch a girl in the face and then get a gold medal for it like that is so sick but at least things are finally turning more and more people are are willing to stand up and say something about it, which obviously wasn't happening very much before.

Speaker 21 So I'm thankful to see the tide turning and I really do have high hopes for it as long as more people are waking up to the fact that this could happen to anyone.

Speaker 21 This happened to me in the middle of rural North Carolina and that's what woke me up.

Speaker 21 I'm like, we shouldn't have waited till it happened to me to say something, but the fact that it's happening here is happening everywhere because that's not something that we ever saw.

Speaker 21 So I don't want this to ever to be a possibility for my younger sister who I'm doing this all for.

Speaker 21 And if I get blessed enough to have a daughter one day, like she should never even think it's a possibility for a man to be on the other side of the net because there was a time in my life where I thought that too.

Speaker 21 Like I didn't think that would ever be allowed and that my parents or the parents, all the parents in there wouldn't allow that to happen.

Speaker 21 But the fact that actually happened and it was celebrated and it's still happening in some places in some states. And it's just so crazy.

Speaker 21 But I really do think that we're going in a good direction and more and more people are saying enough is enough because it's just everyone has a woman in their life and whether they want to admit it or not like it's happening in every every way well thanks to you uh you and others like you who have found your voice and used it peyton all the best thank you so much for being here thank you and thank you for for uh telling my story from the beginning like i've never really had the opportunity to thank you for that so thank you so much

Speaker 10 It's my honor. I'm sorry that it happened to you, but I'm super glad with what you've done with it.
Thank you. You're a heroine.
Peyton McNabb, everybody. See you soon.

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