Rep. Brad Sherman Discusses Dems Fight Back against Trump

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on how Trump, MAGA Mike Johnson, and the Republicans are having a meltdown now that Democrats led by Governor Gavin Newsom are fighting back against their redistricting plans and Meiselas interviews Democratic Congressman Brad Sherman on the fight against Trump and MAGA.

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Speaker 9 These MAGA MAGA Republican Congress members and politicians are crying now and blaming California Governor Gavin Newsom for redistricting in California when it was Donald Trump who ordered the MAGA Republican governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, to do the redistricting right before the midterms.

Speaker 9 You've got the MAGA Republican Congress member from California, Kevin Kiley, posting the following: We will not let Gavin Newsom destroy democracy in California.

Speaker 9 Then he went to the Wall Street Journal who Donald Trump is suing and did an op-ed saying, in today's Wall Street Journal, I set out my plan to stop Newsom's corrupt redistricting scheme and to assure it doesn't ignite a gerrymandering war across the country.

Speaker 9 I mean, these people just make stuff up. Like y'all started this in Texas.
The Democrats supported for the People's Act HR1. in order to ban this partisan gerrymandering.

Speaker 9 I mean, this Kevin Kiley guy, this MAGA Republican congressman from California,

Speaker 9 what has he even doing here? He does like a press conference in his own office and brings the podiums. Looks so weird.
And he's been going on all of these shows and whining.

Speaker 9 Let me show you what he did here when he says, it's Newsom who started this. Newsom's trying to destroy my district here.
Play this clip.

Speaker 12 Wants me gone. This is merely an attempt to eliminate.
political opposition, but his past attempts to target me have failed. And I'm confident that this one's going to fail as well.

Speaker 13 Yeah, and I know that you recently introduced a bill to limit redistricting to the beginning of each decade.

Speaker 13 I know you said that Newsom is subverting the will of voters and trying to wipe out essentially what remains of the California Republican Party. There's only nine of you guys.

Speaker 13 Can you tell me more about that bill?

Speaker 12 Yeah, of course. So my concern is first and foremost for what's going on in California.
And Gavin Newsom is a unique threat to democracy.

Speaker 12 He is trying to overturn the will of voters who put in place an independent citizens redistricting commission.

Speaker 12 He's come up with a scheme to sideline that commission and to seize its powers for himself in order to draw a hyper-partisan map that as you said will reduce republicans to holding nine out of 52 seats that's what we have right now not that many uh but that's too many for him so he's gonna

Speaker 9 you know just total sociopaths right they're bullies and then you punch back and then they go they're coming after me i'm the victim they're coming after me then you've got this vagar republican candidate for uh california governor this steve helton guy he's like newsom started it.

Speaker 9 Newsom started it here. Watch this.

Speaker 14 Well, of course, like everything else that Gavin Newsom touches, a disaster and a fake and a phony, because what he's saying there is a total lie.

Speaker 14 He's saying that his scheme to steal power back from the people and write the maps to suit Democrats is responding to Texas. That's not true at all.
It's a complete lie. California started it.

Speaker 9 California started it. Of course, it was California started.
No, it didn't. What world are you living in? Then you had MAGA Republican Congress member Daryl Issa.
Here's what he's got to say.

Speaker 9 Let's play it.

Speaker 15 Well, I mean, Governor Newsom fired off a Trump-style tweet yesterday

Speaker 15 saying this. Donald Trump, the lowest polling president in recent history, this is your second to last warning.
The next one is the last one.

Speaker 15 Stand down now or California will counter-strike legally to destroy your illegal crooked maps in red states. Press conference coming, hosted by America's favorite governor, Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 15 Final warning next. You won't like it.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Speaker 15 Is he joking?

Speaker 2 Is this a joke?

Speaker 12 Well, you know, the ultimate in false statement,

Speaker 12 Trump's low approval rating, it couldn't be higher. I know.

Speaker 12 But

Speaker 12 from a more practical standpoint, look, in some states, the voters have allowed politicians to draw their own line.

Speaker 9 In California, the voters made a decision that it was going to be done by an independent commission, and he's trying to override that so we can go back to having politicians draw lines for themselves all right we will leave it there let's bring in california congressmember brad sherman congress member i showed you those clips right there you see your mega republican congress members they're trying to rewrite history a little bit huh

Speaker 11 what incredible hypocrisy uh first of all The voters will be very involved in this process. I believe it's today the maps are going to be published.

Speaker 11 In In November, the voters vote and they'll have a choice. Do you want the maps that you had last election or do you want this set of maps?

Speaker 11 You couldn't, every single voter in the state is going to participate.

Speaker 11 And Kylie, you know, we've been pushing for a decade and longer, Zoe Lofgren and I and others, for every state to have to have an independent redistricting commission.

Speaker 11 And he never supported that at all until the day that it could adversely affect him personally.

Speaker 9 You see right here, though, with Democrats fighting back, the reactions, though, you're seeing from your Republican colleagues, like they're not used to getting counterpunched, it seems.

Speaker 9 And their response, though, is to now play the victim, like they're under attack and you're coming after me.

Speaker 9 When, as you said, look, Democrats. Yesterday, tomorrow, you name the time would get rid of partisan gerrymandering in general.

Speaker 9 And they're the ones who have been the ones supporting partisan gerrymandering. They're the ones who supported, you know, all getting rid of campaign finance.

Speaker 9 They're the ones who are doing all of this, huh?

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 this idea that California started it, the whole country knows Texas started it. But we also know that Trump is ordering his allies in Florida, Indiana, and Missouri to do more of it.

Speaker 11 And we would be very happy as California Democrats to have an immediate ceasefire.

Speaker 11 But the only person proposing that on the Republican side is Kylie, and he doesn't speak for the Republican Party nationwide.

Speaker 9 You know, you talk about a ceasefire when it comes to partisan gerrymandering. I mean, Donald Trump went to Russia on, I mean, went to Alaska on Friday, which he called Russia repeatedly.

Speaker 9 You had Sergey Lavrov, the foreign minister, wearing a CCCP t-shirt, already going into the negotiations, wearing USSR gear.

Speaker 9 You know, just think about the message that that's, you know, sending to start this thing.

Speaker 9 In your career as a Congress member,

Speaker 9 could you fathom this scene right here of in Alaska as Russia setting the terms of a negotiation, America excluding Ukraine and Europe from it, and then the foreign minister, the main negotiator with Putin, shows up like like a conquering hero wearing USSR gear.

Speaker 9 And Donald Trump just lands like, well, everybody, okay, let's do it. High stakes, everybody.

Speaker 11 It doesn't look good going in, but the real outcome will be apparent soon. And if the president starts trying to force Ukraine to give up more territory than it's lost on the battlefield.

Speaker 11 And to give up its,

Speaker 11 I mean, Putin is pushing for there to be severe limits on the future Ukrainian army.

Speaker 11 So he's invaded Ukraine twice, and now he's saying, we want you to have a much smaller military in the future so that when we invade for a third time, you won't be able to defend yourself.

Speaker 11 This meeting shouldn't be happening,

Speaker 11 but we'll wait to see what effect it has. We'll know pretty soon.

Speaker 9 You know, one of the things Donald Trump has desperately trying to do, whether it's because that's one of the reasons why he's doing this meeting now or

Speaker 9 he's talking about 2016

Speaker 9 conspiracies involving Hillary Clinton. And

Speaker 9 he's like, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. Hoax.
It's like, dude. You're meeting with Russia in Alaska today while they're wearing USSR gear.

Speaker 9 Like arguably what's happening today is even worse than the worst conspiracies that you're even talking about from 2016. But a lot of people are saying he's trying to distract from Epstein.

Speaker 9 He's trying to distract from his dark past.

Speaker 9 I mean, he's already given preferential treatment to Gheelane Maxwell, the convicted sex trafficker, while the DOJ has ignored and re-victimized the victims of Epstein and Gheelane.

Speaker 9 What do you is Congress? Y'all aren't going to let this go, right?

Speaker 9 I mean, when you get back into session, you're going to be bringing back up, you know, front and center, you know, Trump's cover-up of Epstein, right?

Speaker 12 Well,

Speaker 11 Speaker Johnson sent us home early, in effect canceling Congress because they had to spend time trying to put together their pedophile protection project.

Speaker 11 But when we reconvene, he is going to face a bill that has 11 Republican co-sponsors, and every Democrat would support this. requiring the release of the Epstein files.

Speaker 11 He's going to be desperate to try to avoid a vote on that.

Speaker 11 Now, his method will be be to turn to those who, Republicans who co-sponsored it, and said, well, you co-sponsored it, but don't sign the discharge petition.

Speaker 11 So you say you're a sponsor of the bill, but don't actually take any action so that the bill will get a vote on the floor of the House.

Speaker 11 And we'll see if he can find a few hypocrites to stick with him on that.

Speaker 11 And they are so desperate to avoid a vote on this. As to the Russia gate and all that, the Republicans conflate three different things.
First, did Russia try to affect the election? Yes, they did.

Speaker 11 They had a fair amount of internet advertising.

Speaker 11 And most significantly, they hacked the DNC and released a memo that was embarrassing to the Democratic Party. The second issue is, did

Speaker 11 Trump collude with Russia

Speaker 16 to help their efforts?

Speaker 11 And that hasn't been proven. I've never alleged it, but it can't be disproven either.

Speaker 11 We just don't know if they talk to each other. And the third issue is, did Russia successfully deal with the tabulation system? And the answer there is clearly no.

Speaker 11 But what Republicans will do is say,

Speaker 11 they didn't mess with the tabulation system. Therefore, they didn't try to affect the election.

Speaker 11 You know, that's absolutely absurd. I've I've been in elective office for a long time.
I try to affect every election. I never mess with the tabulation system.

Speaker 11 So whether it is, you know, Russia clearly preferred Trump over Hillary Clinton. They did what they could.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 the material that they stole from the files, the electronic files

Speaker 11 of the Democratic National Committee and released, that was a harmful blow to Hillary's campaign. Whether it was decisive or not, I don't know.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you know, and Donald Trump said, Russia, if you are listening, do something.

Speaker 9 And then shortly after, that thing happened. And it's not normal.
I always try to say this on the show. This is not normal political behavior.

Speaker 9 And I always get mad when corporate news normalize it: that someone running for the presidency of the United States says to any country, ally or foe, yet alone foe, if you're listening, I need you to do something illegal.

Speaker 9 You got to do a little hacking scheme for me. And he said it.
I mean, it's on tape. And so every time they go back to it,

Speaker 9 I say it's on tape. You may want to address that, but let me just, I also want to, before we go, talk about the Palisades, because that's you in your congressional district, Donald Trump.

Speaker 9 As I also like to say, I don't like normalizing his behavior. And there are so many things that he says that just go unreported because it's, oh, it's just Trump being Trump.

Speaker 9 And as it relates to the fires, you know, he keeps on saying that he turned on a magical spigot on the border between California and Canada, which he thinks Canada borders California.

Speaker 9 And he turned on the water. And then that's what saved the day.
And in reality, he emptied reservoirs after the fire was contained into farmland that was not connected to southern California.

Speaker 9 And at the end of the day, I just think people want, just, can you help us here? Are you not? Are you just going to do these like weirdo fantasies?

Speaker 9 So talk to us about where we're, where we're at right now, what you want to see, and just the kind of the barrage, the deluge of lies that came out from the White House and still do today.

Speaker 11 Well, water is a precious commodity out here in California, and there are three ways to use it.

Speaker 11 You supply cities, you grow crops, or you let some of that water flow to the ocean to create the estuaries that fish and fishermen need.

Speaker 11 And it's always controversial, but the cities get the water they need. And yes, there are pictures of fire hydrants dry in the Palisades.

Speaker 11 That had nothing to do with how much water was available to Los Angeles. Everybody in Los Angeles was living their lives, taking showers if they felt like taking it right through those fires.

Speaker 11 We had plenty of water in L.A.

Speaker 11 The problem is the Palisades is up on a hill, and we did not have the capacity to pump the water up to those fire hydrants because we had a system that was designed to allow the people of the Palisades to live normal lives and even put out a couple of house fires at the same time.

Speaker 11 Nobody created a system up there that would allow you to move enough water up the hill to

Speaker 11 deal with hundreds of homes all burning at the same time. So this had nothing to do with Canada, fish, or farmers.

Speaker 11 It had everything to do with a firefighting system in LA that was not designed to deal with something that nobody imagined, and that was hundreds of fires and 100 mile hour winds.

Speaker 11 And as we deal with climate change, we have to start imagining the things we didn't imagine 50 years ago. And we have to be resilient.
We have to be prepared for it.

Speaker 9 Before we go, I know also you've been pushing back against Trump's crypto schemes, and that's a big deal for you.

Speaker 9 I'd love to hear more about that because with, again, all of the deluge of stuff that comes out out of the fire hose of disinformation and the craziness, we shouldn't forget the grift that's taking place before our eyes.

Speaker 16 Can you speak to that?

Speaker 11 Oh, I mean, this is kind of like Hunter Biden's paintings on wow steroids.

Speaker 11 Hunter Biden can spend an hour making a painting and then sell it for 50 grand and somebody might buy it hoping to have some influence with his father back then.

Speaker 11 What Trump does is he literally creates

Speaker 11 a cryptocurrency. It's no different than

Speaker 11 creating a finger painting. And then he has sold $300 million of Trump coin.
to the Chinese business interests that control TikTok.

Speaker 11 Then he

Speaker 11 provides $2 billion of, quote, Trump stablecoin to Abu Dhabi, which is part of the United Arab Emirates. And with that stablecoin, at least in theory, they can get their money back.

Speaker 11 In theory, they're supposed to be reserves. But he gets an interest-free loan of $2 billion.

Speaker 11 That's worth millions every week. And then if he ever adopts a foreign policy that Abu Dhabi doesn't like, they can pull their money back out.
It's the perfect

Speaker 11 scheme. It's like having the president on retainer.
He makes a couple million a week.

Speaker 9 Congressman, great to see you on the Midas Touch network. Come back.

Speaker 16 Anytime.

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