Former Governor Jay Inslee Strikes Back at Trump Threats

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Speaker 1 Donald Trump's cabinet members making appearances on Fox and other right-wing channels, making complete fools of themselves on such critical issues. I just want to show you this.

Speaker 1 This is Donald Trump's energy secretary, Chris Wright. Let me just play this clip for you.
Utterly humiliating and dangerous. Here, play this first clip.

Speaker 8 The Department of Energy, meanwhile, released its climate report assessing the impact of greenhouse gas emissions.

Speaker 8 It includes carbon dioxide-induced warming may be less damaging than previously believed, which many people expected. The DOE is receiving pushback, however, from the New York Times.

Speaker 8 The Times writes that the Energy Department is attacking climate science in contentious reports, Secretary. Your reaction.

Speaker 9 What a crazy headline, but I guess that's par for the course for the New York Times. In fact, we're doing the exact opposite.

Speaker 9 We're exposing the American people and the broader scientific community to what actually is in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports, not the hyperbolic summaries for policymakers or media headlines that claim all sorts of crazy stuff.

Speaker 9 This is what we actually know.

Speaker 9 How often do you hear that the planet's getting greener because there's more carbon dioxide in the air? It contributes to increased crop productivity and greater wilderness, greener wilderness.

Speaker 9 How often do you hear that deaths from extreme weather have been falling like a stone for a century and that insured losses from extreme weather events have been on a multi-decadal decline.

Speaker 9 Those are just facts. Instead, we're scaring kids in school.

Speaker 9 We're promoting an alarmist view of climate change that's simply contrary to the facts. It's a real physical phenomenon that we want to talk about honestly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, those are not the facts. Quite literally, everything he says there is a lie.
And you hear him saying climate change is actually great for everybody.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is climate change is an amazing thing. So they're going to put out reports saying that this benefits everybody.
I mean, it doesn't get more dystopian than that, or does it?

Speaker 1 I mean, here you have Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergham, celebrating that the Trump regime will eliminate wind and solar power energy, say goodbye to wind and solar.

Speaker 1 It's just call everybody as other countries are developing multifaceted energy to help them, one, when it comes to their energy production needs, help their economies, but also help the environment.

Speaker 1 This is what the Trump regime is saying. Here, play this clip.

Speaker 8 Are still a lot of wind projects that are moving forward and the ones in the ocean as well, Empire Wind, Vineyard Wind. Are those going to be stopped as a result of this?

Speaker 10 Well, I think the big thing, Martha, is with the one big beautiful bill has taken a major step forward. And finally, after 33 years phasing out these just massive subsidies that

Speaker 10 were creating essentially tax schemes as opposed to power generation projects for wind and solar.

Speaker 10 And with the phase out of those, I mean, I think we're going to see almost zero applications for new projects that come in because 60%, 70% of the value of a wind project, perhaps even more for offshore wind, which was very expensive, was the value of the tax credit.

Speaker 10 And of course, we're for

Speaker 1 they're talking about killing industries, but what is the government going to be subsidizing what are they focused on coal yes but also building nuclear reactors on the moon here's sean duffy transportation secretary talking about bringing fission to the moon surface here play this clip

Speaker 7 We do have some solar, but if you want sustainable life on the moon, you need an energy source. So we're going to bring fission to the moon's surface to power our base.
It makes complete sense.

Speaker 7 Now, some might say, well, the launch is somewhat complicated, right? These are not active. They're not live

Speaker 1 when we launch. All right, enough of that.
I mean, quite literally, crazy, crazy, crazy stuff. Let's bring in former Washington Governor Jay Inslee.

Speaker 1 Governor, you're also involved with climate power and their accountability project, holding people like that

Speaker 1 and initiatives like that accountable. First, I just want to get your reaction to what it is that I showed you, and then we'll dig deeper.

Speaker 11 Well, I guess what I'd say is that they have fully embraced the flat Earth society approach.

Speaker 11 The next thing I expect is that they will order NASA not to show any photographs of the Earth showing its round, because that would distort their flat Earth approach. Look, I was a governor.

Speaker 11 And when you're governor, you deal with the real world. And the real world for me was trying to take care of the people in Medical Lake and Malden.

Speaker 11 These are two towns in eastern Washington that totally burned down because of these wildfires that we're experiencing. That by fact, and if you want to talk about facts, they've increased in double.

Speaker 11 They've doubled in the last 30 or 40 years in the western United States. It's trying to take care of the flood victims.
It's not just Texas.

Speaker 11 The flood victims, I remember talking to a family that had one flood. They spent a year rebuilding their home and they had a party and the next day they had another flood.

Speaker 11 It went right through their picture window trying to take care of them.

Speaker 11 It's trying to take care of the agricultural people look at this is bad for agriculture our wine industry is hurt because the smoke from the forest fires gets on our grapes it then can reduce the quality of our wine so i really don't know what world they want to live in you can only explain this in in in in two ways one

Speaker 11 They really just don't give a damn about people's lives who are getting hurt by this monster. And two, they think they can

Speaker 11 hoodwink the American people who are now seeing this.

Speaker 11 And to me, it's just so callous that they could come up to somebody whose home has just been full of mud and tell them that climate change is a good thing, that these floods are increasing dramatically.

Speaker 11 And by the way, the billion-dollar losses we're having from these extreme climate events have gone up by four or five times in the last decade and a half.

Speaker 11 So, you know, I guess they think Lyon will pay off ultimately. I don't believe that's the case.
Americans are increasingly recognizing the threat that we're facing.

Speaker 11 So I guess what I'm saying is I worry less about artificial intelligence and more about a natural stupidity and deceit, which they're trying to pull over the American people right now.

Speaker 1 Right. I mean, energy is not limitless.

Speaker 1 It needs to be harnessed in the right way. And correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 On the current path we're going, there is somewhat of an expiration date in terms of if you pursue this path, there's going to start to be lots of energy shortages.

Speaker 1 And so wind and solar was however you want to view it, whether a long-term solution, a stopgap, medium-term solution. In addition to the fact that it brought jobs.

Speaker 1 to communities when i've spoken to people like senator shatz of hawaii and others who's a big proponent of wind what they're saying is we're going to look back in five years and there's going to start to be grid outages everywhere kind of like what we saw in Texas a few years back.

Speaker 1 And people are going to be like, what happened? Like we actually need this right now at a time they're talking about putting nuclear fission on the moon, which they're not going to do.

Speaker 11 Well, we'd like to have some power on Earth, not just here on the moon. It'd be nice if our elected officials thought about getting power to our homes on Earth, not just the moon.

Speaker 11 And the fact of the matter is we know electrical demand is going to skyrocket in part because of the energy needs of data centers and our new internet-based system, but just because of the growth of the United States.

Speaker 11 And so these brownouts are a real concern. And when you have this situation where you know, or the president should know, we need a lot more electricity, does it really make a lot of sense to kneecap

Speaker 11 70% of the new possible energy sources we have, which is also the cheapest energy sources? This is the thing that has always astounded me about Trump.

Speaker 11 He wants to say we want to be dominant in energy, but the first thing he wants to do is to basically take, you know,

Speaker 11 three of the most prominent energy generating sources and making them illegal in the United States. Look, if you need more energy, the dumbest thing to do is to

Speaker 11 disallow access to wind, solar, and advanced batteries, three of the most productive ways of producing a new energy. And yet that is what he's done.

Speaker 11 And by the way, it's not just reduction of subsidies. I heard one of these speakers say, well, all we're doing is taking away subsidies.
That's not all they're doing.

Speaker 11 They're doing everything humanly possible to make it impossible to build wind power, advanced batteries, and solar power.

Speaker 11 The most recent one is they denied a permit in Idaho of this really significant wind power farm that would really help us in the northwest part of the country avoid these brownouts.

Speaker 11 It's not just that they took away the subsidy. They took away the permit for no good reason whatsoever.
So they're going going out of their way, every possible way they have, to chop down

Speaker 11 every wind tower and put blackout curtains over every solar panel. And now it's not just access, it's cost,

Speaker 11 because these are the least costly in 90% plus of the areas in the United States.

Speaker 11 These are the costs that are dramatically cheaper than coal-based energy.

Speaker 11 So he's not only exposing us to more brownouts, he's exposing us if we can get the electricity, it's going to be more expensive.

Speaker 11 Over $150 a person in the United States is going to have higher electrical costs on average as a result of shooting ourselves in the foot.

Speaker 11 So it's maddening that he is exposing us to the health risks associated with heat domes that killed 150 of my citizens a couple.

Speaker 11 summers ago. It's maddening that he's allowing our homes to burn down across the United States.
Shoot, we have a fire fire burning today in the Olympic National Park in the rainforest.

Speaker 11 This is a place that's called a rainforest, but it's on fire. We can't put it out because it's so dry.
We've had two droughts in the last

Speaker 11 four years in my state.

Speaker 11 And so they don't care about our health, but they also don't care about the costs of our energy because they want to fatten the pockets of their fossil fuel buddies.

Speaker 11 This really should be maddening to every American.

Speaker 1 You know, and then it feels like it all goes back to some personal grievance Donald Trump had at some point in his life.

Speaker 1 You know, the windmills that he didn't like being built around his Aberdeen and Turnberry golf courses. That's why he's always hated windmills around there.

Speaker 1 He likes the idea of climate change bringing the water closer to the Mar-a-Lago property. He thinks it gives him kind of more exclusive waterfront and beachfront.

Speaker 1 He's said that in speeches before. So he, you know, and it's like what he does with the trade war, also.

Speaker 1 You know, he'll say, you know, in Japan, they do some test where they drop a bowling ball, which they don't do, on the car. And if the car breaks, they put a tariff on an American car.

Speaker 1 And that's why there's no American cars in Japan, which is, which is false. And you have these ridiculous, you know, to your point, flat earth style.
pretexts and justifications.

Speaker 1 And then all of these people around him, the enablers, then start building the reports and building the junk science,

Speaker 1 the fake stuff to dismantle things based on. And then they go, it's so crazy that you would say things, which are like facts.

Speaker 1 And then the crazy things they talk about, like building nuclear reactors on the moon where people can't even afford groceries. Like, that's what we want to do.
And it's just got to stop.

Speaker 1 I guess I'll leave it. I'm not sure if that's much of a question or me just venting to you.

Speaker 11 Well, it's more of a statement, more of a statement than a question.

Speaker 11 but i think they're going to have problems with this because they're running into reality it's people who can't go outside because it's too hot it's people like in my in my seattle washington our kids could not go outside and play

Speaker 11 two summers because of the the smoke the it was actually a health hazard to go outside to play it's people having to abandon their homes on the coast which is happening and build their homes out what i'm saying is that they are running into reality and we need it's our job the question is what are we going to do about this right That's the real question.

Speaker 11 What are you and I and everybody else going to do about it?

Speaker 11 And what we're going to do, I hope, is to make sure that we use all of our voices to speak against this lunacy, but also make sure that we elect people to Congress November 2026 that are going to push back about this anti-science position.

Speaker 11 Whatever you're partying, you ought to be pro-science.

Speaker 11 And I hope people are now starting to realize November 2026 is going to be important in congressional elections so that we can can actually get people elected who will put a stop to this craziness to deny science and inexpensive energy.

Speaker 11 That's our goal, and we ought to be doing it. And everybody can play a role in this to talk about this issue.
I'm glad you're talking about it. I talk about it.

Speaker 11 I'm working with this group Climate Power to try to spread a scientific message on a nonpartisan basis. Because both parties ought to be working on this.
Unfortunately, there's only one.

Speaker 11 But this is so central to our lives.

Speaker 11 I'm just so. Now, here's some good news, if I may, because I don't think we should have a discussion without some good news.

Speaker 11 If, in fact, we get these things built, if we can get Trump's hands off our throats on this, the fact of the matter is we are experiencing a clean energy revolution that is so effective, it knocks your socks off.

Speaker 11 Listen, it took us 40 years to build the first terawatt of solar energy, 40 years.

Speaker 11 Then the next terawatt, it took us only two years.

Speaker 11 The third terawatt only took us one year. So the pace of growth of renewable energy is extraordinary as long as we get the permits to actually build it because the technology is fantastic.

Speaker 11 The price continues to come down. The technology continues to be increased.
The efficiency continues to improve.

Speaker 11 Marrying this with advanced batteries, and we have two of the most advanced battery companies that uses a new silicone anode in the state of Washington. These technologies are incredible.

Speaker 11 We just need to be able to deploy them and take this guy's foot off of

Speaker 11 the engine of progress. So there's good news out there as long as we can push the go button.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much. As always, Governor Inslee.
Thanks for the work you're doing now. And please come back.
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