Congresswoman Bynum On Defeating MAGA

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews Democratic star from Oregon’s 5th Congressional District Janelle Bynum who defeated the MAGA candidate Lori Chavez-DeRemer (now Labor Secretary) who held the seat before her.

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Speaker 5 If Democrats plan to take back the House of Representatives, they're going to have to flip seats.

Speaker 4 So I think we should study the Democrats in the House who have been able to actually flip seats to see what they've done.

Speaker 10 And maybe that shows a roadmap.

Speaker 5 Why don't we just take a look, for example, at Oregon's 5th congressional district?

Speaker 11 And it's been in the news a lot lately because it used to be held by a MAGA Republican congresswoman.

Speaker 4 And that MAGA Republican congresswoman, she liked to pretend that she wasn't really MAGA.

Speaker 8 She liked to claim that she stood on the side of labor.

Speaker 14 I was always very suspicious of that shtick.

Speaker 9 And someone who was very suspicious of it was someone who ran against her, now the Democratic Congresswoman from the fifth, who flipped it, who called her out in the debates, Congresswoman Janelle Bynum, now a Democrat after flipping that seat from Oregon's fifth congressional district.

Speaker 9 And you may know about that district also in the sense that Lori Chavez-Derimer, now the labor secretary, although she's not looking out for the interest of labor, was that MAGA Republican congresswoman pretending not to be MAGA in Oregon.

Speaker 7 She claimed to be on the side of labor.

Speaker 4 But do y'all remember we covered this on the Midas Touch podcast before.

Speaker 4 The confirmation hearing where all of a sudden she said she's on the side of the oligarchy and she no longer supports the pro act remember this moment where ran paul maga republican rand paul said the following to her let's let's play this clip so you no longer support the aspect of the pro act that would have overturned state right to work laws yeah there were so many parts that's a yes yes there yes sir

Speaker 14 Oh, the Secretary of Labor no longer supports the piece of legislation most important to labor and was pretending to support it in Oregon.

Speaker 13 So who was calling her out?

Speaker 14 Who knew that this was going on?

Speaker 10 Well, let's show you the moment where that seat flipped.

Speaker 9 Let's play.

Speaker 21 Fox 12 has now called a closely watched race in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Speaker 18 Our political analyst John Horvick is projecting that Janelle Bynum will oust the incumbent for the Oregon Congressional District 5 seat.

Speaker 21 Fox 12 Spencer Schott was at Bynum's victory speech today. Spencer, what did she have to say?

Speaker 22 Well, Bynum says it's an honor to win this election and she's excited to continue the work that she's started here at the oregon state house but now on a national stage over in dc

Speaker 8 we're joined by congresswoman janelle bynum from oregon's 5th congressional district you knew you were warning people the people knew the people though voted for you so they got it but you were telling everybody who she really was huh feel vindicated well yeah i mean she was a fraud and a fake and now is our labor secretary.

Speaker 24 And tell us about how damaging that is for labor.

Speaker 18 Well, you know, it's really curious. I'm concerned how labor will recover.
And labor is supposed to represent working families in this country. So we have the 40-hour work week.

Speaker 18 We have protections against children being exploited in labor. We have protections now for overtime.
We have all of those things because of the modern labor movement.

Speaker 18 And, you know, sometimes it feels like this administration, not sometimes, they want to go to a period in time where things just weren't fair for the average working American.

Speaker 18 And I think that's where she's going to take us.

Speaker 15 Tell us, how did you do it? What's the playbook?

Speaker 11 It was a red district. It's in Oregon.

Speaker 9 It's a blue state, but it was a red spot or a purple.

Speaker 12 What in the world was going on and how did you do it? What's the secret?

Speaker 18 So I'm a mom. I'm an electrical engineer.
I'm a four-term state legislator and now congresswoman. Here's the thing that matters the most that people need to remember.
This is all about math,

Speaker 18 pure and simple. And so I had run against Lori Chavez-DeReamer twice before and had two more very difficult elections in a purple seat.

Speaker 18 You have to, number one, know where you can win, which precincts you can win in.

Speaker 18 That's kind of the math part. The other part is the messaging.

Speaker 20 I'm a mom.

Speaker 18 I've got two kids in college, and they're trying to make their way in the world. And I've just talked about the real world things that we are experiencing as a working family.

Speaker 18 And so that's why I focused on costs, jobs, quality of life across the political spectrum. Doesn't matter whether you're red, blue, independent.
That was the message that resonated with people.

Speaker 18 They wanted to know that a real and authentic working person was going to represent them in Congress.

Speaker 5 What are you hearing from your constituents now?

Speaker 25 Because as we've said, it was represented previously by a Republican, which means there were a lot of people who voted Republican in your district.

Speaker 15 And now they're seeing Medicaid under attack.

Speaker 9 They're seeing Elon Musk take their private information and call Social Security a Ponzi scheme, treat veterans like crap as they fire these government workers.

Speaker 5 They claim that it's for performance reasons, which is basically just defaming them.

Speaker 11 People are seeing their pensions and 401ks

Speaker 13 struggle and suffer.

Speaker 9 What are you hearing? What's the sentiment? What are your constituents saying?

Speaker 18 Well, we had two town halls this weekend, and I've made... thousands of calls across the district.

Speaker 18 One that I remember the most is a mom telling me that she hoped that her son would build like a mother-in-law unit or get a house with an extra unit on it because her social security wasn't keeping up with the rise in rent.

Speaker 18 And she was scared. Another man this weekend at the town hall said he was concerned as to whether his Social Security money would show up in his account.
So people are scared.

Speaker 18 You know, chaos has been sown, and I think the people deserve better than that. What's also really important is this brain drain that the Trump administration has initiated.

Speaker 18 We in Oregon experience wildfires. We need people getting ready for wildfire season to protect life, to protect property, to protect our air.
And they let everybody go. That makes zero sense.

Speaker 18 So people are angry and they want us to fight.

Speaker 10 You've always stood up for the Department of Education.

Speaker 25 I mean, we always stood up for the American worker in general and American people, but the Department of Education near and dear to your heart.

Speaker 24 I know people are scared that that, you know, totally abolished.

Speaker 10 What does that mean? Linda McMahon, you know, the WWE head who's got her own issues is out there mocking it. And it just seems that Trump and his billionaires beat down on what?

Speaker 13 They're beating down on poor kids and disabled kids and giving kids lunches.

Speaker 11 I mean, that's who they go after so that they and their billionaire friends can party with their...

Speaker 11 You saw they did the pink Birkenbag party in Mar-a-Lago with these gigantic Birkin bags that they're celebrating at.

Speaker 20 That's what they're doing out there.

Speaker 18 They just having a good old time. Reminds me of kids in middle school.
but here's here's the problem

Speaker 18 number one linda mcmahon didn't even know what the idea stood for

Speaker 18 and that is the law that protects disabled children and makes sure that they get a fair and free appropriate education in this country full stop number two What they're trying to do is keep people

Speaker 18 suspicious of education and keep people undereducated. An educated populace can challenge its government and they don't want that.

Speaker 18 And then the third thing is they're trying to move us back where we don't have investments in the latest research.

Speaker 18 You know, when I went to the Library of Congress, one of the things that's up on the ceiling, In one of the rooms, it talks about the United States contribution to the world.

Speaker 18 And the picture that it has there is of science.

Speaker 18 This is what we do: we innovate, we research, we build the best and the brightest, and they're trying to take us back.

Speaker 11 Lots of people, and I'm sure at these town halls, a lot of people are saying, you know, we want people who are fighting, we want, we want fighters.

Speaker 9 You know, obviously, Democrats don't control the House and the Senate. They can't subpoena.
You can't set the agenda. We don't control the White House.

Speaker 4 But people are saying we don't care.

Speaker 26 Like, we know, we, we know that.

Speaker 3 They shouldn't care.

Speaker 12 So, what does it mean to you to fight?

Speaker 9 What's your message to other Democrats, though, too?

Speaker 7 And what's your, what's, how do you interpret that fight?

Speaker 18 So, number one, there is some personal responsibility in this because many of these purple districts,

Speaker 18 like mine, some of them went to Trump and they still voted for a Democrat. So, people are going to have to decide what they want next time.

Speaker 18 But, most importantly, Republicans across the country need to be able to stand up and push back.

Speaker 18 They shouldn't be able to just sit down and get away with walking away and saying, oh, well, I think things are going great because you know damn well they're not going great.

Speaker 18 When your seniors are upset, when your young people aren't having a chance, when you're picking on the disabled, and when you're letting our our life and property go up in flames and you're not doing anything about it.

Speaker 18 Republicans themselves should still be upset at all of this. And we have to push them.
You either have to push them to move or push them out.

Speaker 18 How do they say it?

Speaker 18 You either need to let me help you out or let me help you out.

Speaker 16 You know, finally, I'm seeing all of these travel advisories now being issued from foreign countries, basically saying, hey, to their citizens, you go to the United States, you may end up in an ICE detention center center or get sent to a concentration camp in El Salvador, and you may not ever be heard from again.

Speaker 9 Also, you know, it's dangerous in the U.S. now as they're gutting essential government services.

Speaker 9 There's measles outbreaks in certain states now as there's someone running the health department who doesn't like health.

Speaker 20 I don't know.

Speaker 12 I'm not sure where the question is going other than what the heck is going on.

Speaker 23 What are you going to do about it?

Speaker 18 We live in the greatest country on earth, I believe. And I think this is a time for us to all band together and be proud of what we've built as a country instead of trying to tear it down.

Speaker 18 And part of why I originally ran was this sense of patriotism to stop Trump.

Speaker 18 to stop his evil acts, and to put forth a better way of life for our young people and to showcase all of the great things that this country has to offer and has built for the world.

Speaker 18 I am a much more optimistic person, maybe than the average person. I don't think you should be in this job if you're not an optimist, but I believe in the greatness of America.

Speaker 18 I believe in the greatness of our young people. I believe in the beauty of America.
And so stopping people and making them think twice about moving across our borders is actually very harmful.

Speaker 18 So I just say,

Speaker 18 Again, let us help you out or let us help you out. My Republican colleagues need to stand up and Democrats need to get very, very focused about flipping these seats so that we get the numbers back.

Speaker 26 You flipped it.

Speaker 19 You showed the roadmap and I'm hoping and I'm confident people will see what you did.

Speaker 9 Follow that model. Congresswoman Janelle Bynum, thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 18 My pleasure.

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