Rep. Sharice Davids Discusses Trump’s Ultimate Betrayal of Farmers

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on how Donald Trump’s plans have quickly screwed over Republicans leaders and voters who support him and Meiselas interviews Kansas Congresswoman Sharice Davids about Trump’s attacks on Kansas and farmers.

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Speaker 35 So as americans are absolutely livid at donald trump and the mega republicans government shutdown as americans are puzzled and pissed about why taxpayers here are giving 40 billion dollars to argentina to bail out donald trump's mega puppet dictator javier malay there which we're just flushing our money down the drain while 20 million americans are set to lose health care donald trump upped the ante and said you know what we're not just going to give argentina that 40 billion just want to let our cattle ranchers know here in the United States.

Speaker 35 We're going to also bring in that Argentine beef. You know, that foot and mouth disease situation going on in Argentina that's really bad.

Speaker 35 We're going to go take that beef, bring it here, undercut our own ranchers, and then we're going to destroy the White House while we're at it.

Speaker 35 And maybe we'll do some UFC fights in front of the White House. We'll destroy the Rose Garden and what else.
Then I'll just golf. all weekend.

Speaker 35 So then Donald Trump sends his agriculture secretary, Brooke Rollins, and she makes her her rounds on the show.

Speaker 24 And she's asked, what are you doing here?

Speaker 35 Why would we be undercutting our cattle ranchers now at the same time we're bailing out Argentina? It makes no sense.

Speaker 3 You want to bankrupt our cattle ranchers?

Speaker 35 What about the free market as well? And so Brooke Rollins is asked, is importing beef from Argentina a possibility? Like Trump said, here's what she says.

Speaker 3 Play this clip.

Speaker 22 What about

Speaker 36 beef from Argentina?

Speaker 31 Is that a possibility?

Speaker 37 Well, the president has mentioned it a couple of times. I I think you'll be hearing more about exactly what that looks like.
Right now, in America, we consume about 12 million metric tons of beef.

Speaker 37 10 million of that we produce here in America, but the 2 million I'm talking about, we've been offshoring.

Speaker 37 And there's different parts of that, you know, what McDonald's buys and ground beef versus the actual muscle cuts, which is what a lot of Americans, the healthy part of all of this, I mean.

Speaker 35 So then she just filibusters the rest of the answer, but she confirms that that is the plan. You're the United States agriculture secretary.
Like you realize that, right?

Speaker 35 You're not the Argentinian agriculture secretary or the agriculture secretary from Brazil. The United States, you're supposed to,

Speaker 35 the one thing that your job is, is like

Speaker 35 defend your American cattle ranchers, basically. Defend American agriculture.
So then she's asked on Thursday more about it. And of course, she's got to make it a both sides issue.

Speaker 35 The frustration here is on both sides.

Speaker 35 That's what the issue is here. Plus Klu.

Speaker 37 Having said all of that, the plan that we released yesterday, which the president was so excited about, we were opening up 5 million acres of taxpayer land, BLM and Forest Service land, for our ranchers to lease from the government.

Speaker 37 We're implementing new programs to allow younger ranchers to get into the business with cheaper loans, better protection, et cetera.

Speaker 37 We are with Newton Maja, with Bobby Kennedy, and putting protein, specifically beef, back at the center of the American diet from the government's perspective.

Speaker 37 And when you think about what we spend every day on nutrition programs from the USDA, it's $400 million a day, pivoting some of that to specifically locally grown and produced and healthy, the best beef in the world.

Speaker 35 Well, she's not answering the question. So we'll try one more time, Brooke Rollins, on Trump and American cattle ranchers.
She goes, there's frustration on both sides here. Play this clip.

Speaker 38 Say that there's a bigger problem that they've got. It's not even just about the imports of the Argentine beef.
That would hurt hurt them. But then they're saying that

Speaker 38 they're struggling with the cost that they're dealing with on their small production farms. How do you address those folks?

Speaker 37 Yeah, a couple of different points on this I think are really important.

Speaker 37 The first is that this president, when he ran and cast his vision, you know, well, over the last almost 10 years now, which is hard to believe, but certainly over the last year as he was running in 2024, was he many promises, but top of the list was securing the border, and he's done that pretty remarkably.

Speaker 37 And number two was making America more affordable again, that under Joe Biden, everything, the inflation, fuel, groceries, everything had just skyrocketed.

Speaker 35 You're not answering. The whole point is that things are more expensive for cattle ranchers and you're putting them out of business now and you're going to be bringing in Argentinian beef.

Speaker 35 You can't just answer every question with Joe Biden. And then Donald Trump responds and he writes, the cattle ranchers who I love don't understand.

Speaker 35 The only reason they are doing so well for the first time in decades is because I, I did it. I put tariffs on cattle coming into the United States, including 50% tariffs on Brazil.

Speaker 35 If it weren't for me, they would be doing just as they've done for the past 20 years. Terrible.

Speaker 35 It would be nice if they would understand that, but they also have to get their prices down because the consumer is a very big factor in my thinking also.

Speaker 35 Does Donald Trump think that the cattle ranchers control the price of the market, that they are price fixing? He doesn't know the way anything works.

Speaker 35 I want to call in Democratic Congresswoman Cherise Davids from Kansas's third congressional district.

Speaker 35 Congresswoman Davids, it's great to see you from Kansas, one of the biggest cattle ranching states in the country.

Speaker 35 This must make you and your constituents absolutely livid, especially during this government shutdown where people are suffering from so many other reasons.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 39 And

Speaker 39 I was,

Speaker 39 you caught me shaking my head from that

Speaker 39 social media post

Speaker 39 because

Speaker 39 the idea that cattle ranchers in Kansas or in any state would need Donald Trump from New York City telling them

Speaker 39 that he understands cattle.

Speaker 39 the cattle markets,

Speaker 39 the work that they do

Speaker 39 better than the people who get up at five o'clock in the morning. That's why they're successful.
They're not successful because of Donald Trump. They're successful because

Speaker 39 they're working really, really hard. And

Speaker 39 I'm at a loss at

Speaker 39 why the Secretary of Agriculture would try to defend, try to defend this specific thing. I know this is politics and that's kind of what people do, but

Speaker 39 this isn't about right and left. This is about right and wrong.
And the idea that our cattle ranchers are being told by Donald Trump

Speaker 39 why they're successful is outrageous. And then, you know, I've heard

Speaker 39 some of my colleagues, some of my Republican colleagues have encouraged Donald Trump to be transparent about what's going on with this idea of importing beef from Argentina.

Speaker 39 And I'll just say this, we don't need transparency to know that this policy is garbage.

Speaker 39 We need to be supporting American ranchers, farmers, producers, and

Speaker 39 this ain't it.

Speaker 35 Right. And it's now hitting the cattle ranchers and

Speaker 35 farmers. I think 64,000 cattle ranchers, but half the farms, I think, in Kansas, when I looked it up and did the research, are cattle ranching farmers.

Speaker 35 But there's lots of other farms and agriculture there. Yeah.

Speaker 39 And then the other thing is, sorry, I'm, I just, like, this, this is so wild to me that, uh, that, that the president decided to do this.

Speaker 39 The other thing is, you know, when, when you talk to folks about, because

Speaker 39 farming is, is, is tough.

Speaker 39 And when I say that, it's both, it's physically demanding and you know, folks are getting up early, they're up before the sun.

Speaker 39 And there's that piece, but it's also, it's tough because there are all of these factors that are out of the control of the farmer. They're having to deal with the uncertainty of weather.

Speaker 39 They're having to deal with the uncertainty of the international space. You know,

Speaker 39 when Russia invaded Ukraine, the price of fertilizer

Speaker 39 skyrocketed. All these inputs that

Speaker 39 are rising

Speaker 39 trying,

Speaker 39 they're trying to navigate all of this. And the last thing they need is the uncertainty being created by these tariffs.

Speaker 39 And it's the uncertainty being created by nonsensical policy of importing Argentinian beef. And I apologize for interrupting you.
I just got right. Oh, not at all.

Speaker 35 Where I was going was, I said, so you look to your left in Kansas, and you've got cattle ranches. You look to your right, you've got soybean farmers, right?

Speaker 35 States producing nearly 200 million bushels annually across 4.7 million acres. And then the soybean farmers are looking to your cattle ranches.
Your cattle ranches are looking at soybean.

Speaker 35 And they go, wait a minute, we're getting screwed too. What do you mean? Well, the soybean farmers are saying, well, we don't have an export market anymore because China's not buying soybeans.

Speaker 35 And so now Trump's talking about giving government handouts to the farmers to bail them out. The farmers, you tell me, they're saying we don't, we have the product.
We want to sell it.

Speaker 35 And now you're giving a $40 billion bailout to Argentina. And while dangling in front of us, that you may bail us out.
We don't even know what that even means. Who are you going to bail out?

Speaker 35 The cattle rancher, the soybean farmer, who gets priority over who? And then you're telling us we should fix the market.

Speaker 35 It's a wild concept to your point that Mr. New York City guy is out there screwing the soybean farmer, the cattle rancher.
But some of these people still vote for him.

Speaker 35 What's it going to take? Some still say, you know, he loves me, though. No, he doesn't.
He hates you.

Speaker 39 Well, I think that this,

Speaker 39 and this touches on, you know, I know we're going to get to the redistricting conversation too, but

Speaker 39 this just further highlights how

Speaker 39 we have too many politicians in this country who are willing to

Speaker 39 ignore the voices and the needs of the folks that they are supposed to be representing. And when we talk about,

Speaker 39 when we talk about the impact of tariff policy or

Speaker 39 this idea of importing beef from Argentina, it is like

Speaker 39 it couldn't be the furthest thing away from listening to the folks who depend on the federal government and our elected officials to actually show up in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 39 and do the job of bringing the voices, needs, concerns, and even the successes of our constituents out here and try to make it so that they have a dependable,

Speaker 39 reliable federal government that isn't going to make things harder for them. And right now, that's exactly what this policy is doing.

Speaker 39 This president has implemented too many extreme policies that are actually damaging so many Americans, including the 79,000 Kansans that are going to lose their health care

Speaker 39 because they passed a budget to give billionaires more tax breaks.

Speaker 35 And I want to get into the redistricting, but I want to remind people that in Kansas, your governor, Governor Laura Kelly, who we've interviewed here before on the My Dispatch Network, she's a Democrat.

Speaker 35 Donald Trump won the state, though, in the 2024 election by 16 points. And so, you know,

Speaker 35 it has that dynamic. You know, when I talk to Governor Bashir, where you have a Democratic governor in Kentucky, for example, but then Trump won that state by,

Speaker 35 it's a fascinating dynamic. Like, do you know, seeing the dynamic and what's happening and playing out right now, how does that happen? Do you see that changing, especially as Mr.

Speaker 35 New York City's like literally destroying the farmers and like

Speaker 35 the main source of income in the state and people's lives? Like, what do you see on the ground?

Speaker 39 Yeah, what I see on the ground right now is a lot of frustration. It's a lot of frustration, confusion, and actually anxiety.

Speaker 39 And, you know, my preference would be that instead of folks having to wait until the next round of elections to make a change, my preference would be that our elected officials, my colleagues included, would actually just start listening to their constituents.

Speaker 39 And I wish that the Secretary of Agriculture and the President of the United States would listen to our agricultural community and

Speaker 39 understand that you know, folks want to do their job. They want to continue to feed the state of Kansas, the United States, and the entire world, frankly.

Speaker 39 And they can't do that with this whiplash of extreme policies that we're seeing coming out of this White House.

Speaker 35 So that's why we're seeing the redistricting efforts across the country, but that's targeting Kansas. They want a special session.

Speaker 35 Kansas is already gerrymandered in ways that make a pretty simply shaped state into one that looks gerrymandered-wise into something that looks Frankensteiny. And what's happening there?

Speaker 35 I know it's an important issue for you.

Speaker 39 Yeah. Well, I think that

Speaker 39 your description as being Frankenstein

Speaker 39 is, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right.

Speaker 39 I will say that, you know, Kansans in a lot of ways, you know, when you're there, you see that folks want to know that they're going to have good public schools.

Speaker 39 Folks want to know that their children are going to have the opportunity to thrive and don't want to see the government getting in the way of that. And when it comes to this redistricting push,

Speaker 39 folks also recognize that

Speaker 39 voters should be choosing their representatives and not the other way around. And right now, because Donald Trump has essentially instructed our state legislators to

Speaker 39 take on this mid-decade, unprecedented redistricting effort for purely political partisan purposes because they know all this extreme stuff is so unpopular that they're not going to win unless they cheat.

Speaker 39 And Republicans already did this a few years ago. They gerrymandered the Kansas maps.
And the fact that they're willing to revisit this

Speaker 39 is it's outrageous that they would

Speaker 39 further polarize folks folks and then worst of all, like silence the voices of Kansas voters. And

Speaker 39 I am absolutely going to fight this and try to make sure that our maps don't get further gerrymandered because Kansas voters don't deserve to have their voices silenced because

Speaker 39 we have an administration that has such unpopular policies that they have to cheat to win.

Speaker 35 Before we go, Congresswoman, are there any other issues that you're seeing in Kansas? Maybe it's health care.

Speaker 35 Maybe that you keep getting asked over and over and over again, especially right now, that it's important. I want to highlight it to our 6 million subscribers because

Speaker 35 it's important that we cover states like Kansas and what's going on. We have a lot of people who watch from Kansas, and I want to make sure we're getting their voices out here

Speaker 35 to the world as well.

Speaker 39 Yeah, and I appreciate that. I can tell you, Kansans right now have

Speaker 39 a whole multitude of things things

Speaker 39 they are

Speaker 39 having to worry about, rising costs, everything from gas to groceries, and

Speaker 39 the healthcare issue, you know, we're at crisis proportions here. Folks are about to,

Speaker 39 if Congress doesn't act, folks are going to lose the tax credits that have saved somewhere around $700

Speaker 39 a year for about 160,000 Kansans. And that's at the same time that

Speaker 39 Medicaid has been cut. And so this healthcare crisis is certainly

Speaker 39 on the top of the mind of so many Kansans that I've talked to. And I'm going to continue to push

Speaker 39 leadership. You know, it is a fact that Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House.

Speaker 39 We need for them to come to the table so that we can actually work together. And yeah, fight it out.
We need to do that. We got to have these hard conversations because that's what people expect.

Speaker 39 That's why they elect us to have the hard conversations. We got to get the government open and we need to take care of the health care of millions of Americans, including the 160,000 Kansans

Speaker 39 who depend on these tax credits.

Speaker 35 I think it's such an important point.

Speaker 35 There needs to be conversations.

Speaker 35 Like it sounds so basic, but when you and I learning about government, it's like the parties are supposed to speak to each other it's okay that they disagree and then they come up with a compromise and a solution and then they you know figure it out and right now maga mike johnson has said he's ordered the republicans do not talk do not converse no conversations allowed yet alone negotiations and i think that's what just pissing a lot of people off they're like wait a minute the magas are saying that they're not talking they're not they're not going to do they're too good to speak to the other side when they need the votes that's not the way it should work anyway i appreciate you congresswoman sharice Davids.

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