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The East Wing of the White House fully destroyed, going, going, gone.

Donald Trump said that he was not going to actually touch the physical structure of the White House.

By that, he meant he was destroying the entire East Wing.

He also now says that the golden ballroom is not going to cost $200 million.

It's going to cost $300 million.

And he claims he raised $350 million for what was supposed to be a $200 million ballroom.

I'll let you try to do that math.

We'll talk about that and more.

The government shutdown continues.

And while it continues, Americans are terrified that 20 million to 30 million Americans may lose their health care as the MAGA Republicans refuse to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies and are attacking people's Medicaid.

We'll talk about that.

Cattle ranchers and soybean farmers are continuing to suffer as Donald Trump's trade war against the world is backfiring.

Meanwhile, the government refuses to publish any financial data at all.

We're not getting data about jobless claims.

We're not getting data about inflation.

No data at all.

And they're using the government shutdown as an excuse, the same way they're using the government shutdown not to turn over the Epstein files.

Speaking about Epstein, Melania Trump was sued by author Michael Wolf.

Wolf says that Melania was threatening Wolf based on Wolf's reporting about her potential connections, if any, to Jeffrey Epstein.

And he's talked about the relationships and the photographs of her and Epstein and what may become of all of that.

MAGA Mike Johnson was sued as well by the Attorney General of Arizona for refusing to swear in Adalita Grijalva.

We may or may not be going to war with Venezuela anytime soon.

And Pete Hegseth, the department at the Department of Defense, who unlawfully calls himself the Secretary of War, just announced another war crime, blowing up a fishing boat in the Pacific Ocean.

This time it brings the death total to like over 30, and these indiscriminate war crimes continue in the name of the United States.

We're going to talk about that and a lot more.

Let me bring in Brett and Jordy.

How you guys doing?

Oh my God, every single day, you guys, it's, you know, you wake up and you're like, I cannot believe all this is going on.

It's good to be here with you guys, though.

I'm always happy to be breaking down the news with you and with the Midas Mighty.

Thank you to everybody watching.

Thank you to everybody listening on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Just such an interesting side-by-side.

And interesting really doesn't quite cut it

as a word here.

But you're seeing how Trump is building this golden ballroom, demolishing the entire East Wing of the White House, lying about it, sending the military into the streets, screwing over farmers.

You see the Republican Party

completely just like screwing over people with their health care.

Those premiums, those increases are starting to hit right now.

People are starting to see what the costs are going to look like if this continues.

And it's just such a side-by-side between all of the actions trump is doing as you see the grift also on full display as you see the golden ballroom going up as you see him try to basically steal 230 million dollars from the treasury by demanding the department of justice give him 230 million dollars personally as you see all these corporations jumping in to fund this ballroom it is like the epitome of corruption let them eat cake does not even cover the half of it uh if we're being honest here we'll dive into it all jordy what's the latest on your end i'm excited to get into today's show.

We have a lot to cover.

Benji, where are we starting off today, big bro?

Why don't we start with Caroline Levitt's press conference?

She's the chief propagandist at the White House, and I think she summed it up basically what all Americans know already about this regime when she said at this moment in time, the ballroom is really the president's main priority.

Let's play this clip.

Go ahead.

Thank you, Caroline.

Thank you.

Thank you.

To the ballroom and the rose garden patio.

I'm going into the back.

Sorry.

In addition to the ballroom and the rose garden patio, is the president looking at any other renovations or significant kind of projects here at the White House?

Not to my knowledge, no.

But he's a builder at heart, clearly.

And so his heart and his mind is always churning about how to improve things here on the White House grounds.

But at this moment in time, of course, the ballroom is really the president's main priority.

Next, a reporter asked Caroline Levitt on the ballroom.

In July, Trump said it was only going to cost $200 million.

Yesterday, we saw that he said it was going to cost $300 million.

Why is it like just going up 100 million dollars a week at this point?

Let's play this clip.

Danny.

Yesterday the president said 300 million.

Is 300 million now the operative figure and why did it go up by so much?

300 million is the figure and again it's not going to cost the taxpayers a dime.

So we look forward to this project continuing and we will continue to keep everyone apprised on it perhaps the president will even bring you all out to see it one day at the appropriate time the appropriate time you may get to see it your eyes may get to see this uh ball this golden ballroom if you are lucky next day reporter asks caroline levitt uh but uh okay so the the price has changed it went from 200 million to 300 million but also didn't donald trump say that the project was not going to interfere with or touch the current structure of the White House at all.

You've just demolished the entire East Wing.

The East Wing no longer exists.

So how do you square that with him saying the structure was not going to be touched?

You just demolished it.

Here, play this clip.

Excellent.

Two quick construction questions, if I can.

You mentioned any construction project comes with changes.

The president had initially said that this project wouldn't interfere with or touch the current structure.

Now he says to do this properly, he realized that the East Wing had to be demolished.

This is the people's house.

Why not inform the public of that change and when it was decided that the East Wing would have to be demolished?

Look, again, with any construction project, changes come, and we have informed all of you.

We've been keeping you apprised of this project.

We've shown you the renderings.

And if you look at the renderings, it's very clear the East Wing was going to be modernized.

Instead, in fact, I said that in the briefing when we initially introduced this plan to all of you and to the public.

But

I was tearing down this.

Well, again, the president, the plans changed when the president heard counsel from the architects and the construction companies who said that in order for this East Wing to be modern and beautiful for many, many years to come, for it to be a truly strong and stable structure,

this phase one that we're now in was necessary.

And the president wants to do right by the people's house.

And so that's exactly what he's doing.

It's going to be, again, like I said, much more stable, strong, secure, and more beautiful than ever once it's completely.

Just saying words, what the hell is that?

A more stable structure?

White House has been around for a pretty long time without it being destroyed.

Stable, strong.

We're doing justice by the people house.

Do you know?

She also just says, like with any construction project, that's just what happens if you need to make an alteration.

If I wanted to make an alteration to where I live right now, if I wanted to build an ADU in my backyard, an accessory dwelling unit, okay, just in my own property, I would have to go get a permit just personally, right?

And if I'm renting an apartment or renting a place, I can't just start demolishing the walls at all.

Like, so it's not just like with any construction project.

And by the way, this is the White House, and there's something called a National Planning Commission.

And the entire claim, I guess, from the Trump regime about why they didn't have to go through the law, the National Planning Commission, is that they claim they weren't touching any existing structures at all and that there would be no real material.

He was just going to be building something new.

And then they change that to say, no, actually, the legal guidance is that we can destroy anything.

So then a reporter asks, destroy any.

So are you saying that because you think that your authority is you can destroy the East Wing, can he destroy the rest of the White House?

Can he destroy the Lincoln Memorial?

Can he destroy the Washington Monument?

Can he destroy anything in DC on his own without getting any authority?

And she goes, Yes.

Caroline Lambett says, Yes, that's the legal authority we have.

He can destroy anything he wants to destroy, which, of course, is not true, but let's listen to what she says.

So we bring out the receipts.

Let's play it.

So the White House has explained that the reason you didn't submit construction plans to the NCPC

is because that commission, along with others, don't have oversight over demolitions, but only over construction.

And so far, you haven't built anything.

So can you help us understand, can can the president tear down anything he wants without oversight?

Could he demolish this building or say the Jefferson Memorial?

So, it's not the president who came up with that legal opinion himself.

That's a legal opinion that's been held by the NCPC for many years.

It's written, so we can get you that background and that research if you wish to include it in your reporting because it is very important.

They have ruled consistently, their general counsel has said, when it comes to phase one of this project, the tearing down of the current east wing structure,

a submission is not required legally for that.

Only for vertical construction will a submission be required and that's a legal opinion from them and we are following that legal opinion.

And again, I would just add, can any president do such a thing to the White House grounds?

There have been many presidents in the past who have made their mark on this beautiful White House complex.

This briefing room, as you all know, was not once a briefing room.

It was a swimming pool.

There have been presidents who have completely torn down the executive mansion.

If you look at what President Truman did, some of the photos of the construction project that took place in those years, I think sitting here today, we're all grateful for those efforts and the modifications that happened at that time.

And again, in due time, the East Wing is going to be more beautiful and modern than ever before.

And in addition, there will be a big, beautiful ballroom that can hold big parties and state visits for generations to come.

So it sounds like the answer is yes, he can tear down whatever he wants.

And then, secondly, I mean,

that's not what we're saying.

That's a legal opinion that's been held for many years.

No, it's something that presidents have done for years and years.

In fact, I have some photos here.

And I just want to say, because it's a lie, okay?

What she's saying is a lie.

Yes, the White House has been renovated throughout the years.

Yes, people have made changes.

Any substantial changes have gone through Congress and the funds have been appropriated by Congress.

She brought up Harry Truman, for example.

That renovation, the Truman reconstruction, took place from 1949 to 1952, and it was approved by the congress paid for with appropriated funds there was a discussion it didn't just one day you didn't just wake up and all of a sudden he's demolishing part of the white house this has never happened like this before and i think kind of everything we see with donald trump uh shows that there is are there's no limit to what these people will defend

he could do literally anything i'm talking the most horrific atrocity imaginable, the craziest thing that you could possibly think of.

He could do do anything.

And all of these people, whether it be Caroline Levitt, whether it be Fox News, all the people around Donald Trump, the kind of MAGA propaganda bots on Twitter, they will all go to bat to defend him.

And it doesn't matter whatsoever

if they have any sort of consistent logic between their statements.

For example, yesterday, I had somebody writing to me one of these like MAGA accounts.

They were like, he's not demolishing the entire East Wing of the White House.

Why would you spread these lies?

You know, one of these people, you're fear-mongering, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You're lying about what's going on.

He's only changing the facade.

It's just the facade.

And of course, you know, we learned today, the entire thing is demolished.

The whole East Wing of the White House is gone.

It's gone.

It doesn't exist anymore.

And they just go on with their day as if, you know, they were accurate, they were correct, you know, never correcting themselves.

They'll just move to the next thing, which is usually some sort of whataboutism.

But Obama built a tennis court.

Obama put some lines on, built a basketball court.

Obama put some lines on a tennis court.

Okay.

Like, stop with the whataboutisms, all this very kind of Soviet-style disinformation that these, that these court decisions somehow justify you doing this.

Nothing justifies you doing this.

A president cannot just come in, excuse me, come in and knock down the White House, come in and knock down the Lincoln Memorial, do whatever the hell he wants.

That's why we have laws in this country.

That's why there are guidelines around this sort of thing.

And to see Donald Trump just unilaterally do this is incredibly disturbing to me.

And the defense of, well, these corporations are the ones who are funding it first i you know i know there was a list of corporations that came out today about this and and shame on all those companies but i'd like to know how much are they each giving what did donald what is donald trump getting in return for this because that's one of the issues when you have these private companies coming in to fund it especially with somebody who is so pay-for-play like donald trump what is the corruption happening and also remember this isn't a one-and-done sort of thing so you're building this gigantic structure i think it's supposed to be 90 000 square feet and this is supposed to be up forever forever, right?

So who's paying the bills after the initial construction?

Say even, say Donald Trump does have all this money to build it and it's being built from outside sources.

The taxpayer is clearly putting the bill for this thing in the future.

There's not going to be donors who are funding the utility bills, who are funding the maintenance, which are that that's going to cost a fortune in and of itself.

Exactly.

Brett, I want to comment on something you just said there.

So the MAGA commenter to you, the facade, the MAGA base has never met like a word that they don't just love to cling to.

It's just the facade.

What are they even talking about?

And I just want to recap all of this really quickly, Ben, before we move on.

Like, just let me get this straight.

So as the government,

as the government shut down wages on, with House Republicans working 80 of the last 92 days, working 12 days in three months, the Trump regime's main priority is the $300 million ballroom.

As federal workers go unpaid, as SNAP benefits are about to lapse for 42 million people, SNAP, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, the federal program that provides food purchasing assistance to low-income and no-income individuals and families for 42 million people in this country is about to lapse.

The main priority for the Trump regime is a $300 million ballroom.

You know, this is why I say often on this show that the Republican Party, they're not pro-life.

They're pro-force birth because after you're born, they don't give a damn about you.

And I wish I was making this up.

I wish I was being hyperbolic, but Trump's chief propagandist, Caroline Levich, she said this out loud.

We all just heard it.

We just played the clip.

The number one priority, the main priority for the regime is the $300 million ballroom.

There is no other conclusion I can draw other than MAGA and the Trump regime.

They hate America.

They hate the American people and they hate American workers.

Yeah, well, there's that.

There's the ballroom.

There's the National Guard invading cities.

after ICE invades, creates turmoil, and they bring in the National Guard to invade blue cities, and then rigging the midterm elections, right?

That's basically the focus.

And Trump was asked, I think we've got this clip in a press conference he had earlier the day.

So, how much money have you raised for this?

So, now it's, I thought it was 200 million, now it's 300 million.

And then Trump goes, no, it's 350 million right now.

So, there's like, what, a 50 million extra?

Like, and why don't we know, okay, if it's 350 million, who, where's this money coming from?

And then the reporter says, how much are you donating?

What's your number?

Because remember, originally, Trump said he's paying for it all.

Just think about the fraud that he's committed already.

He said he's paying for it all, number one, which is a lie.

That was he said, I'm paying for it all.

Okay.

Number two, I'm not going to touch the existing structure.

I admire the existing structure of the East Wing.

It will not be touched at all.

That's what he said as well.

And again, those are, that's not like a minor fraud.

That's a major fraud on the American people.

Because just think about it.

Maybe people would have filed lawsuits earlier had they known that it was actually going to demolish the wing and that he was not going to pay for it all, that now it's illegal quid pro quos and now you've destroyed the bill.

It's a major fraud.

It's a major crime.

And I honestly believe that all of the corporations that are involved in this should be criminally prosecuted when Trump's out of office.

I truly do.

I think if your name's on the list, I believe you've engaged in a crime to destroy and desecrate the White House.

And I think Democrats need to talk about it like that.

Like, y'all are criminals.

And I think that part of the pull into fascism by these corporations is that once you bend the knee a little, if you don't bend the knee fully, it's hard to unbend the knee, if you know what I mean.

Because at this point, you as corporations are so down the path of humiliation and criminality and destroying our free markets that your only concept of what the future holds is you destroying our free market system and you destroying America, but you existing as an oligarch where your money is based on favors being handed to you.

You give Donald Trump a golden bar.

He gives you an exemption.

You pay for this, he gives you that.

Your stock price is now based on utter fabrications because the fundamentals of our economy are as horrible as you can be.

You look at any stat, we're in a recession.

I mean, 23, 24 states are in a recession.

Job, we don't even have the claims, but the fundamentals are shredded.

So you go, well, then why is the stock market going up?

Well, because it's a lot of the same corporations that just keep making announcements and their price is going up based upon doing oligarchical crap with Donald Trump.

And it's like, oh, I guess it should go up.

I guess it should go up.

But fundamentally, that leads to a crash.

Those companies are going to be screwed.

They're going to have a really horrible place in our history.

And I just think it's important that we call it.

I don't know.

Here's Trump, just so you hear him in his own words, saying, $350 million has been raised.

Why would you raise more money than the project costs if you don't intend to use it or take it?

Here, play this clip.

Have you raised the full $300 million needed to fund your

full $300 million needed to fund your ballroom?

And how much specifically are you donating to this construction?

I think $350 million.

All donor money and money that we put up.

We've raised, it's going to be,

it's going to cost right in the neighborhood of $300 million.

It's been expanded and

made absolutely, it'll be the most beautiful ballroom anywhere in the world, I think.

And how much specifically are you donating to it, personally?

How much am I donating?

I won't be able to tell you until I finish, but i'll donate whatever's needed i'll tell you that

that means he's giving nothing and he previously said he was going to pay the whole thing himself and you hear right there and i just don't get i just truly don't get the american who lives in this country likely on an affordable care act plan or medicaid you're either probably on one of them unless you're on medicare okay

who sees that and goes, that's my guy.

That's my guy.

Yeah, Trump.

Yeah, man, that's what I'm looking for.

I'm not sure what that accent is, but that's how I imagine that man to sound.

That's that's that's generic Trump supporter.

Yeah, man, that's what I want.

Don't tell me.

You don't tell me.

I don't want to know.

You see, you know who you

know who you sound like.

I don't know for those listeners or viewers who maybe have seen the righteous gemstones.

You sound a little like baby Billy.

I hear that.

I hear Billy.

I hear

a fantastic character.

Not Sandler's character in Waterboy, but just Waterboy Waterboy in general in there.

And so, good, that's good, man.

Like Walter Goggins, that's the actor play.

That's so funny.

Well,

I mean, yeah, I mean, think about if you're one of these soybean farmers who's getting completely screwed over, if you're one of these cattle ranchers who's being completely screwed over, if you're somebody who relies on these Affordable Care Act subsidies who's being completely screwed over, I could go down the list.

I could do this all day, right?

And you're watching the priority of the administration right now, them spend all of this money and all of this time and focus all of their energy on building a gilded ballroom in Washington, D.C.

I mean, it's just the epitome.

It's just the most corrupt regime we've ever seen.

I think this is going to be my pitch.

And I don't know if this is smart politically or not.

I don't care about politics, but this is going to be my pitch to future

if Democrats are able to retake House, Senate, get foolproof majorities.

I think we need a constitutional amendment.

We could call it like the No Kings Act.

The No King amendment's Amendment's got to be a constitutional amendment.

And we need to go through, use Trump as a test case.

Every single thing that Donald Trump has done that we've previously relied upon, flimsy laws or precedent, we go through and you put it in the Constitution that these things aren't allowed.

You ban the president from being able to assume control over the National Guard without it going through an independent body.

You ban

the ability to just unilaterally set these tariffs.

You set parameters around that.

Once again, you force it to go through a unilateral, an independent body, rather.

You reform the pardon power so people can't be

pardoning their corrupt cronies.

And we'll get into that a little more later in this episode.

You reform the Insurrection Act, just all these various things, all these weaknesses in our system.

I think you patch up with a new constitutional amendment.

And we could even put your name on it, Donald, if you really want your name on something, okay?

But I think it's very obvious that we've relied far too long in this country on precedent, and we need to actually take action.

And it needs to be something that is uh supreme court proof it needs to be an actual amendment in the united states constitution that clearly lays this stuff out because the stakes are just too high and we're seeing right now in real time what happens when you let an authoritarian in the white house brilliant brilliant and let me just say this really quick because i want this on record not that 300 million and 350 million the numbers that the regime's throwing out right now aren't ridiculous My gut and my guess, knowing Trump and how he likes to just be fraudulent, this thing's going to, and how he likes the way numbers sound, this thing will get up to $500 million by the end of maybe like a billion.

Because he likes, yeah,

he'll like that number.

That would be a good number that he could say and boast around about.

It's disgusting.

It's interesting.

It'll keep going up, up, up, 100%.

Want to take our first quick break of the show.

We've got a lot more to discuss.

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Donald Trump seemed to indicate that we were, is the United States going to go to war with Colombia?

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Benji, where to next?

Someone by the name of Kasim Rashid, right?

So just to recap everything, Donald Trump's spending about $100 million on taxpayer money on golf, about $172 million on new Gulfstream private jets for Christy Noam and

her close friend.

Corey Lewandowski to travel the country on the taxpayer dime.

$230 million, because Donald Trump claims he suffers pain and suffering as a result of the 2020 election.

And he says that the DOJ needs to pay him $230 million, $250 million

for a vanity ballroom as the White House grounds are being destroyed, as we showed you in the first segment.

$40 billion to Argentina while our farmers suffer tax cuts to billionaires, at least a $170 billion budget to the ICE Gestapo as they unleash chemical warfare on cities.

They zip-tie kids.

They kidnap people and disappear them to concentration camps.

So no wonder when you actually look at the polling data right now, like if you look at the generics from Quinnipiac for the midterm elections, and this is why Trump and the MAGA Republicans need to rig these midterms.

It's why they're frantic right now.

The generic Quinnipiac poll shows the Democrats up plus nine in a generic Democrat versus Republican if the elections were to be held tomorrow.

And we know that Democrats have been overperforming in special elections by 10 to 15 points across the country.

And one of the themes I just think that Democrats, frankly, need to hit on for the midterms is no kings.

There needs to be a check.

There needs to be a guardrail, right?

And I think you almost appeal to everybody, say, no matter where you stand on any issue, this dictator needs to be checked.

And I think that's part of the appeal to Republicans too, right?

And Magus, just saying, look, this has gone far, far, far too far for you.

Obviously, it's gone far too far.

But, you know, what are you?

You're a soybean farmer.

You thought he loved the farmers?

Because he said, I love you.

Now he hates you.

He's bankrupting you.

You're a rancher.

You think he likes you?

Because he goes, I love the ranchers.

He hates you.

And not only that, but if you're a rancher, he's like lecturing you about how you do, how you do business.

I mean, like his posts were, you're making the prices too high, ranchers.

You don't know what the hell you're doing, ranchers.

You got to listen to me.

You look at the statement, we'll put it up up there one more time by the ranchers.

I mean, the National Cattlemen's Beef Association.

Cattlemen and women cannot stand behind Trump while he undercuts the future of family farmers and ranchers by importing Argentinian beef.

Another statement talks about how it's a betrayal and how he's manipulating the markets, the cattle markets.

Not only is Trump giving $40 billion to Argentina, when he was asked, why are you doing that?

His response was like, listen, lady, listen, lady, you don't know what you're talking about.

And we're going to bring Argentinian beef to the United States to bring down our beef prices here.

You may want to look into what's going on with Argentinian beef right now, number one, Donald.

And you'll see that there's a massive case of foot and mouth disease there.

And then you may also want to understand how that would undercut the American cattle ranchers who are already suffering because of your tariffs against the world.

You may also want to then factor in that Argentina undercut our soybean farmers by selling their soybeans to China, further harming the ability of our soybean farmers here to find export markets.

And you may also want to realize that in Argentina they have universal health care, which I guess America is helping to fund their health care while 20 million Americans are about to lose their health care.

So you had Caroline Levitt, she was asked a question

about

farmers and about American ranchers.

And of course, the only way they know how to answer questions is by blaming Biden.

So watch what she says when she's asked about ranchers.

Let's play it.

How will the Trump administration support those farmers?

Look, the president hears those concerns.

He addressed them yesterday himself.

President loves our ranchers, and our ranchers love our president.

And in fact, the president did a lot for them in his first term here.

They are struggling because of the many horrible policies of the previous administration.

President loves our ranchers, and he also loves American consumers, and he wants to do right by both.

So the immediate solution to the problem problem of the rising cost of beef president wants to bring that down as we have to increase our supply and so that's what he's doing with respect to these imports yeah he loves you so much he's going to undercut the market manipulate it by bringing in argentinian diseased beef to screw over our cattle ranches he loves the farmers so much that he's destroying all your markets to export to but i do want to cue you in on something there because This is part of a brainwashing strategy.

Caroline Levin and Donald Trump use.

That's why I highlight those Trump emails sometimes when I do my reporting in the morning.

It's a form of love bombing.

I love you, you love me.

I love you, you love me.

And you repeat it over.

Trump loves farmers.

Trump loves firefighters.

Trump loves this.

Trump loves that.

You love me.

I love you.

And you repeat it over and over.

Democrats never do that.

Democrats never say that.

Democrats never utilize those strategies.

Democrats never look in the camera and go, I care about you.

I'm fighting for you.

I hear you.

I understand what you're going through.

Trump does that because he recognizes that humans want to hear that, but they also want you to deliver when you say that.

So I just want to cue you in.

Trump says that because he recognizes that with words, he knows how to manipulate people and then screw them.

But you can do that in a good way in the sense of letting people know you're fighting for them and then actually fighting for them.

And I know sometimes Democrats think, oh, well, you're just being performative.

Well, perform.

Perform and then deliver.

Trump performs and then commits fraud.

So I just want to cue you in why they love him.

Love, love, love, love, love.

I love you.

You love me.

I love you.

I miss you.

I miss you.

I love you.

That's part of a brainwashing strategy that they use that we see in cults happen all of the time.

So next, Caroline Levitt is asked about,

well, what are you doing with healthcare?

And so

one of the things that I like about Democrats fighting.

fighting back in the way they are right now as Trump and the MAGA Republicans have shut down the government is it's exposed what's really here all along which is ever since John McCain gave that thumbs down and saved the Affordable Care Act, Trump has won it destroyed with no alternatives.

Remember during the first term, two weeks, I'll give you a plan, two weeks, I'll give you a plan.

Never gave a plan.

Then remember right before the 2020 election, he did that interview on 60 Minutes with Leslie Stahl and he showed a binder that looked really big and detailed, but then Leslie Stahl opened it and it was 600 blank pages with nothing on it.

And that's what he said his plan was.

That's why he sued 60 Minutes, not because of that, but he held that grudge against 60 Minutes and why he didn't go on and he was too afraid to.

And former Vice President Kamala Harris went on.

Then Trump ended up suing 60 Minutes because he's a little weasel and a little coward.

So, oh, she went on 60 minutes.

You didn't even go on 60 Minutes, by the way.

But they want to get rid of Obamacare.

They want to get rid of the Affordable Care Act.

Then they don't have a plan of what they're going to do.

So if you have a plan, like my plan would be universal health care.

Tax the rich more, which Trump's never going going to do, and then give everybody health care for free.

That's my plan.

They don't have one, they wanted to go back to what was before Obamacare when people would die.

Let me play this clip and then I'll turn it over to you.

This is Caroline Levitt saying it was called Obamacare.

Why?

Then I'll play the other clip too.

Let's play this one first.

So it's something the president wants to do.

And Brittany, one more point.

I'll just point out the irony in Democrats holding the government and the American public hostage over a health care system that they created.

The healthcare system was called Obamacare.

Why?

Because Democrats and President Obama implemented.

And Republicans have always said it's a broken system, yes, but they caused it.

And now they want to shut down the government to fix it.

We need to open the government and then we can have these very important conversations about health care.

Okay, and then one more clip, Brett.

Let's just show where she says, well, what's your plan?

What is your plan?

Here, play this clip.

First is, we understand that the president and Republicans will not negotiate on ACA extensions until the government reopens.

If and when that happens, happens, what does the president think should be or what are his plans for preventing rising health care costs for immigrants?

It's a very good question and I'll leave that to the president to negotiate that when Democrats vote to reopen the government.

When it comes to lowering health care costs, the president is deeply committed to this.

It's why he has spent so much time and effort negotiating with big pharma to lower the health care costs of prescription drugs.

Oh, because we all know that the prices of prescription drugs have gotten so much lower under Donald Trump, right?

The most favored nation's provision.

We all got it, right?

We're all paying $1, the lowest possible price.

No, we all know it's bogus.

We all see the letters that the Affordable Care Act plans that we're all on in different states.

In Colorado, $24,000 increases a year in Colorado.

Similarly, in Pennsylvania, 103% increases.

That was a great question that reporter asked, what's your plan?

Because you have made it clear you don't want to negotiate and have a conversation with the other political party.

And then Caroline Levitt says, that's correct.

We don't want to, and we're not going to tell you what our plan is.

I don't care what political party you're from.

That's not the way our system works in the United States.

It isn't.

So that to me should transcend political party, Brett.

By the way, I do have to give a huge shout out to the press bull today.

Like they brought their A-game today.

There were some really good questions out there.

One of the questions earlier that was Ouija Jang from CBS News, like she did a terrific job.

All these questions were actually very on point, and they really expose just how bereft of any ideas this administration truly is.

And it's shameful because there are lives on the other line of this.

And I've always talked about on this show that a concept of a reality deficit, that Trump is able to lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, so long as those lies aren't affecting people.

Sometimes, you know, they are affecting the people and they still, you know, somehow get sucked in by his lies.

But when it's something like you're staring down the barrel of a healthcare plan that's going up and going to cost you another $20,000 that year, and Donald Trump is telling you that everything's okay.

That is what I mean.

That, you know, that's the deficit where all of a sudden that person goes, holy shit, I can't afford that.

I mean, what human being can afford that sort of thing?

And remember, the whole funny, you know, odd thing about this, you know, the Obamacare thing that they do is, first off, if you remember where Obamacare originated, and by the way, Republicans named it Obamacare to try to smear Obama.

And Obama's like, okay, it's Obamacare.

That's what you want to do.

But remember, it originated with a Mitt Romney plan.

It was originally like something that Mitt Romney had implemented in Massachusetts, which is what like Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, was based off.

It has been a massive success.

People like it by massive margins.

It's like probably one of the most popular policies in American history.

It has, it's like, it has like a 70 plus percent approval rating.

Is it perfect?

No.

Is our healthcare system, does it need a ton of work?

Yes.

Do I think it needs like a page one rewrite?

Yes.

But this solved a lot of issues that were happening at the time, of people being denied healthcare coverage, of kids not being able to get healthcare coverage, of of people with pre-existing conditions not able to get healthcare coverage.

It saved a whole lot of lives and has done a whole lot of good.

And the Republican plan is, it's basically their same plan that they do overall with the United States government is it's let's destroy this thing.

Let's rip it apart.

We may not be able to repeal it.

But let's tear it apart.

Let's pull it out by the roots and let's make this thing as bare bones as possible.

And when shit hits the fan, we will not blame, when people start to blame us, we'll say, no, it's not us, it's Obamacare.

That's what they're trying to do right here.

And Donald Trump in his first term, he took an axe to Obamacare a whole lot, but it remained.

Now they are once again trying to destroy Obamacare.

They're trying taking away these subsidies, all the things that they're doing and refusing to act on it.

It really gives away their game.

Their idea is basically, we're not able to repeal this thing.

So let's kind of try to destroy it from within.

And we don't give a damn who suffers and who kind of lives.

Like it's, it's, it's a really kind of evil thing.

And as you look just throughout everything that they're doing, I just like, you think of like Marie Antoinette here.

Like it's like, this is what like the administration, their entire thing is, right?

It's like, some of you may die, but that's a risk.

You know, it's a risk I'm willing to take, people.

You know, I'm going to take on that burden.

Like that's Lord Farquhad, I think, from Shrek.

But, but that's, that's really like the ethos of the entire administration.

No, it is.

And that leads me to this larger point, just a macro point here.

It's like you see Caroline Levitt up there and just the condescending nature, the unserious nature of her answering these questions.

And frankly, the entire Trump regime, obviously.

Like, I really do struggle with the damage that they've done.

It's hard to imagine that it could almost ever be undone.

How am I supposed to take them seriously?

ever when you know that you can elect someone like a Trump, when you know like you could get someone like a Caroline Levitt up there, just spewing these weirdo propagandist talking points.

And like we always say, we have kids.

Like we, we fucking love this country and we want this country to be kick-ass as best as it can operate for not just our, you know, our kids, but for everybody's kids and for future generations to come.

And when you look at Caroline Levitt up there, like it actually, it hurts me to see someone up there and just acting like

not to get sappy about it, but like it's a good point, right?

Think about all the kids, right?

And you used to be able to be like, when you grow up, you can be the president, right?

When you grow up, you could work in the White House.

And that used to be like a positive thing, right?

And now you have your kids, you go into, okay, let's want to watch the press briefing with me from the White House, want to see what's happening today, let's learn about some world affairs.

And you see the way these people are behaving.

They're just like the most despicable, reprehensible human beings who you do not want anybody's behavior modeled after.

I mean, the other day, I don't have it right now, but do you guys see that the text chain that Caroline Levitt had with that HuffPost reporter?

And he asked like a very good question about Russia, and she responds, Your mom.

Like that was her, her response was, your mom.

And then like he asked again and he said, your mama or something.

Like that was her response to everything.

And then, you know, he came out with the story, posted it, and then she published the text chain as if it vindicated her and was like, look how brutal, look how mean this reporter was.

And she looked like a toddler.

Like that, I don't care who you are, left, right, center, independent, moderate, I don't care what the hell you consider yourselves, but we should all be able to look at that as a country and say, we don't want this shit in our government.

Like, where is normalcy?

Where is decency?

Where is just honesty?

Where are the good human beings?

They're certainly not in the White House.

And the one thing I got to commend Donald Trump for is that he did manage to find the largest group of grifters and scum that he could possibly assemble.

And he somehow put them all in one place.

Like, I've never seen people this horrific, all in the same place.

equally just offensive and horrible.

Like, it's really something.

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Welcome back.

Welcome Welcome back.

Surprising outbreak.

What surprised me was Jordy missing.

What surprised me was, you know, I know Jordy had to go, but

I didn't realize that Jordy was just going to

leave like that.

So that's what surprised me anyway.

Let's see.

We're all new to dad dads now, guys.

You could be in any moment, at any moment.

It happens.

Dogs in the background.

So that's

it.

It's live TV, folks.

Streaming.

What are you going to say?

All right.

From hamburger helper to heat rationing.

We're going to be hearing more about words like that under this Trump regime.

And by the way, you don't have to just be like, well, Ben, you just Midas.

You don't like Trump.

So you must be fear-mongering.

Hamburger helper's back.

People are unable to, they're going to need the hamburger helper.

I go, just, you know, without a sense of, without a shred of irony, here's how it was delivered by Fox yesterday.

Here, play this course.

And last but not least, one trend in TrueBrand is making a big comeback as consumers tighten their wallets.

And here it is, hamburger helper.

The mix of mac and cheese and ground beef is seeing a surge.

So good.

All right, all right, all right.

By the way, you know that she had not read that before she read it live on TV because you could tell there was a moment when she said, like tightening their belts or whatever, that she was like, ooh, shouldn't have said that.

Can we play one more time?

I want you to like watch her face and listen carefully.

At that one moment in the background, I think it's Harris Faulkner, the other host, who is who tries to cover it up and act like it's so tasty and yummy to try to distract people.

This is what we want.

Yummy, yummy, yummy.

She's like trying to cough to cover up her fart, basically.

It's a metaphor.

Okay, ready?

Watch this.

And last but not least, one trend in True Brand is making a big comeback as consumers tighten their wallets.

And here it is: hamburger helper.

The mix of mac and cheese and ground beef is seeing a surge.

Yeah, she did hesitate.

Let me just take a look at these other stats, though, right here.

A significant group of Americans are falling behind on their car payments and economic warning sign.

We're seeing credit card delinquencies at records high, student loan defaults at record highs.

That means six, seven million student loan borrowers likely are going to be unable to really participate in the economy because their credit is going to be shot.

The national debt rose $1 trillion

since August alone.

$1 trillion

since August.

Federal spending is super.

I'll get to that a second.

Total U.S.

debt officially crossed the $38 trillion mark for the first time in history.

$23 billion

per day or so.

And if you look for those audio listeners, you can see it.

All of us, it's all going up.

But in 2025, it goes up like a skyscraper.

Okay.

All of a sudden, the debt goes from, you know, like

what, like a 45-degree to like 180 going up north, right?

It's like, bro, you know, I'm not a math guy, but it goes up.

It goes

up 45, 180.

I'm thinking of my, what do they use it all?

Those accompasses or whatever you use them.

What do they call it?

It's protractor, right?

Pro Tractor, yeah.

Accompasses.

Because it's a podcast, no words.

So you have that.

You also have federal spending is up about, what,

7% year over year right now.

So despite all the things that Doge is doing and all of this,

federal spending up significantly 7% in 2025 over 2024 year to date.

So any claim by the Trump regime that the federal government is tightening its belt, that's contradicted by its own real-time expenditure data.

Aaron Sojorner writes: The administration is spectacularly hammering some things, but raising spending elsewhere.

I don't know, spectacularly, what are they hammering?

They're hammering down the White House, I guess, is what they're hammering down while they're spending all that money on Trump's golf trips on ICE and all of these things.

What did I predict?

I predicted that,

well, last time under Donald Trump, what did he add?

He added like, it was

$8 trillion to our debt or $9 trillion?

I said this time it's going to be like $30 or $40 trillion to our debt.

And I think we're going to be seeing that.

And then, Brett, we now are talking about heat rationing coming very soon as we're in the winter because of this government shutdown.

Heat rationing.

I think that's something the people would call a recession indicator, perhaps a depression indicator.

Heat rationing in Russia, though, Brett.

And so and Trump is modeling the ballroom off of the Romanov Winter Palace.

So I guess we're modeling heat rationing also off of Russia as well.

Yeah, I mean, we've seen this playbook in other countries and developing countries, not in the United States of America anytime recently, at least.

I mean, this is crazy stuff, but this is what happens when you have the corrupt Trump regime that thinks that it has unlimited funds to carry out all the things that you were saying before, whether it's ICE raids or demolitions of the White House or, you know, you name all the things that they're doing.

And they're telling the American people that they got to, you know, start

reining in their spending and they're screwing them over and they're taking away in many instances

their source of income,

their ability to live, which I think is so horrific.

And so like I wanted to highlight this specifically because I think it actually blends all the various things that we're talking about here, from the shutdown to Donald Trump's spending and bailouts to the actual effects that people are having on the ground.

And so as you know, if you've been watching or listening to the Mighty Touch podcast recently, you know we've been putting in these these climate segments so that we could speak about these issues because I think with all the chaos that's going on right now, the climate issues aren't getting enough attention at all.

And by the way, thanks for all the kind words about those.

So let me fuse all these topics together for you for a second and show you how this shutdown and Trump's actions right now are screwing over Americans in the midst of this climate crisis that we're seeing.

So millions of Americans right now, you know, we could be going into a brutal winter as they've been over the past few years.

And it's not just cost of the weather, but it's thanks to Donald Trump's cuts and the Republican-led government shutdown.

People are now being forced to ration ration heat just to survive.

In the United States of America, people are being forced to ration heat just to survive.

And this goes even before the shutdown.

Trump had already gutted the low-income home energy assistance program.

They call it LIHEAP.

That's like the acronym for it.

That's the program that helps families pay their heating and cooling bills, cooling bills.

He laid off the entire staff and even tried to eliminate the program altogether.

But because of the shutdown right now, those funds that Congress already approved, by the way, $4 billion, are now frozen.

And so here we are, we're heading into winter, and millions of working families have no idea whatsoever if they're going to be able to keep the heat on in their homes in the United States of America.

Energy costs are through the roof right now, as I'm sure you guys have all noticed.

The Guardian is reporting that utilities are already shutting off power for families who can't keep up with their bills.

The total number of shutoffs could hit 4 million households this year.

Mark Wolf, he's the guy who heads the group that runs LIHEAP nationally.

He said the following: quote: No family should be forced to choose between heat and food because of a federal funding delay.

But that is exactly what is happening right now.

And this isn't a new thing.

Like, get this, the Trump administration doge, which Ben was just talking about during Elon Musk's reign, they fired the entire team responsible for distributing these funds.

So even if Congress somehow passes a short-term deal, that money probably won't even reach the states at this point or any of the tribes throughout the country until December at the earliest.

Meanwhile, Trump just is lying to everybody.

Like we've been playing these clips, right?

We have all the receipts where Trump says, your costs are going way down.

Your electricity, your energy, it's going way down, way down.

Energy prices are soaring right now.

If you look at Illinois, they're up 28%.

If you look at Indiana, it's up 25%,

up 23% in Ohio.

So as I've been trying to like.

paint the picture with you you have trump building his 300 million dollar ballroom at the white house throwing these parties for billionaires in the new rose garden club club rose garden whoever the hell he's calling it bailing out argentina with like 40 billion dollars millions of americans here at home are wondering if they could simply afford to keep their homes warm during the winter.

And let's face it, this is by design, in my opinion.

It's working exactly as intended.

It's working for him and his donors.

Maybe not for the American people.

He's screwing them over.

But I wanted to make sure that you were updated with that.

Oh, you know, let me do one more climate update today because this is important.

And all this stuff just goes under the radar because of what's going on here.

Trump administration announced that they plan on allowing oil and gas drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

You may know that as Anwar, one of the largest remaining tracts of pristine wilderness in the United States, a critical habitat for polar bears, caribou, migratory birds, other wildlife.

Trump wants to use that land now, and he's giving the approvals to use that land to drill for oil.

So we got to stay on top of all that stuff.

And I know a lot of you always say cover the climate.

We try to do it as much as we can here.

If you like these segments, by the way, if you like hearing climate news, if you have any thoughts on any of those things, tell us in the comments.

You know, I always want to hear them.

And I want to make sure that folks know out there that the American people still care about these issues.

They're important issues.

People try to act like they they don't.

So, if you care about this, just let us know in the comments.

You know, you know, I was thinking, I always get asked questions about like the manosphere because people are like, Are you the left Joe Rogan?

I'm like, No, I'm not the left Joe.

I don't want to be the left Joe Rogan, but I'm just thinking about the Manosphere, right?

These podcast bros out there, like as they're talking about, like, what's Trump doing?

He's building a ballroom.

Yeah, you're going to be some beautiful gowns.

You're going to be some, you know, going to a tea party over there in that ballroom.

Elegant ballroom is what I signed up for.

There's a reason why Donald Trump's approval with 18 to 29 year olds right now is negative 39.

It fell from, it was once plus five heading out of the 2024 election because he promised all these young people everything.

I'm going to make your life so much better.

You're going to be rich.

All the wealth that we've got, you're going to get it to.

You're going to join the club.

And very quickly, 18 to 29 year olds who realize what a lot of us know know as well, that this guy is a fraudster, a lifelong bankrupt, negative 39.

His highest disapprovals are in the young people.

So don't let people say, oh, young people like Donald Trump.

There was always young Republicans.

Like that existed before.

But like George W.

Bush, Ronald Reagan, I think even George H.W.

Bush at some points in time had higher approval ratings with young Republicans than Donald Trump has right now.

And part of what MAGA wants you to do, while they're so unpopular is to act like they're very popular.

And I know our kind of corporate structure wants to perpetuate that narrative.

He's the most unpopular president like in the history of the country.

And it's getting worse and worse as the government shutdown that he's causing continues to go on.

So that's one of the things right here is that you would think what Time magazine gave him another like front page again, like another front cover.

Acting like this guy is like, people hate this guy, like despise this guy.

And Brett, you made a great point on social media about the tearing down of the White House.

You said, weren't these like MAGA snowflakes the same people who lost their minds over renovations to Cracker Barrel's logo?

But they're fine with the physical White House getting bulldozed.

And I think you make such a great point right there.

Imagine if they brought one-tenth of the energy they brought to Cracker Barrel or anytime a Confederate statue is altered or changed or taken down.

They go, oh, my heritage.

You're attacking my heritage.

You're bulldozing the freaking White House and you're not even batting an eye.

It's crazy.

Let's talk about some international affairs quickly.

Donald Trump was asked by a French reporter, and I think it was pretty clear what she was saying, that Trump can't understand accents, but she asked him, what do you make of the fact that the Knesset, Israel's parliament, is pushing forward their legislation to annex the West Bank.

What do you make of that?

That happened right after the ceasefire.

And she didn't ask this in the question, but also Hamas is retaking control of Gaza with no sense of ever disarming.

Also, we've seen about 50-plus Palestinians have been killed by Israel since the so-called ceasefire.

There's been a lot of military activity, a lot of military activity taking place in the region, which

what a ceasefire is.

When ceasefire, the military activity stops, okay?

But here's what Donald Trump said when he was asked.

Let's play it.

God, that guy, he's so hopeless.

Go ahead.

Could you say that louder, please?

Yes.

Yesterday there was a vote at the Gnesset in Israel on annexing the West Bank.

Do you see it as a challenge to your peace efforts?

she's saying.

Where are you from?

Where are you from?

You're from France.

Beautiful accent, but we can't understand what you're saying.

That's what you said about it.

I have another question.

The West Bank?

Yes.

Don't worry about the West Bank.

Israel's not going to do anything with the West Bank, okay?

Don't worry about it.

Is that your question?

They're not going to do anything with the West Bank.

Don't worry about it.

Israel's doing very well.

They're not going to do anything with it.

Don't worry about it.

I'm never going to touch the White House.

I'm never going to destroy it.

Don't worry about it.

$20 trillion is coming in.

Just trust me.

I'm not going to show you where it is.

I'm just going to say 20 trillion.

I'm going to give you a Doge dividend check.

Oh, wait a minute.

I'm not going to do that.

I'm going to give you a tariff rebate check.

Oh, wait a minute.

I'm not going to do that.

I'm going to come up with a great health care plan.

Wait a minute.

I'm not going to do that.

So he lies about everything.

It's just blatant fraud.

Like every word, like every, there's every single word is fraud that this regime puts out there.

Every single word is fraud that this regime puts out.

And then we know that they're out there engaged in war crimes in the Caribbean and now in the Pacific, blowing up these ships.

And, you know, I just want to be clear.

Like there's a, I do not support the regime in Venezuela.

There's a dictator in Venezuela, Maduro.

He's illegitimate.

They don't make fentanyl in Venezuela.

Like, that's just a fact.

Like they don't make fentanyl in Venezuela

or in Colombia.

And if you look at where these fishing boats are positioned that Trump is blowing up, the size of these boats would require them to be refueled nine separate times.

if they were to enter the United States from where they are positioned based on the size of these boats.

Nine times to refuel.

This is not where the fentanyl's actually coming from.

But he's using that as the pretext to engage in these war crimes right now that are taking place.

We've heard from the president of Colombia: you're killing innocent Colombians.

So, what does Donald Trump do?

Well, Colombia is the enemy right now because you've called out the fact that the United States is killing innocent Colombians.

That's where we're at with that right now.

And here,

and Trump is now talking about a land invasion on Venezuela or striking on Venezuelan land.

And so a reporter asks, like, so

doesn't that require you to go to Congress or like, don't you need to declare a war if you're going to start invading Venezuela?

And here's what Trump says, let's play it.

If you are declaring war against these cartels and Congress is likely to

approve of that process, why not just ask for a declaration of war?

Well, I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war.

I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country.

Okay?

We're going to kill them.

You know, they're going to be like dead.

Okay.

They're going to be like dead.

We're going to kill them.

Everybody remember Abu Ghraib and the scandal, CIA black sites in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere.

And it was a big deal 20 years ago when it was discovered that the CIA was covertly waterboarding people, a form of torture.

And people said, we don't do that in the United States.

We don't torture people, even the bad guys.

That's not how you get good information.

That's not how you're able to eventually stop terrorism from spreading by engaging in torture.

Remember some of the photos that were taken, you know, of soldiers who were like laughing at people who were naked and being remember-that was a big deal, and rightfully so, right?

Everybody remembers that?

I mean, if you, if you were around that time,

so now we're just killing people, they're going to be like dead, he says.

And he's killing fishermen.

Likely some are innocent people.

And even the drug dealers should be a process before they die.

In the United States, drug dealers don't get the immediate death penalty without a jury trial.

This isn't even how you would collect good information and data if your goal is actually to stop drug cartels.

Colombia.

was working with the United States on an international basis to try to stop drug trafficking internationally.

Gustav Petro was actually an ally.

Colombia has a dark past, obviously, of being a cocaine capital in Mecca.

And Gustav Petro had been working in collaboration with the United States military to show how the cocaine distribution had been shut down there.

The big issues is the fentanyl that's coming in from other areas right now and not from those areas.

right now and not on those little ships like it's common sense that a ship that needs to refuel nine separate times,

there's no logic to it.

So Trump says he's thinking about invading Venezuela.

There have been reports of warplanes over and over again near Venezuela.

We'll keep you posted every step of the way there.

Two other things I want to just discuss briefly.

Number one, Michael Wolfe, the author, you've seen him on the Midas Touch network.

He sued Melania.

in New York's trial court.

Melania threatened to sue him the same way she threatened to sue Hunter Biden for defamation because they've said, oh, she's got connections with Epstein, this, that, and the other.

And

we've seen photos with her at Epstein.

And so remember, Hunter Biden's like, sue me, sue me.

I want that discovery.

She never sued Hunter Biden after threatening to sue Hunter Biden, which was interesting.

Then she threatened to sue Michael Wolfe and gave a deadline of October 21st for Michael Wolfe to respond.

Here she said, or I'm going to sue you, although she didn't sue Hunter.

So who knows if she would follow through with the set, with a threat.

But Michael Wolf sues her and says, that violates New York's protections on First Amendment.

Your threat caused me to incur legal fees.

Now I want discovery.

I'm suing you.

I'm going to subpoena you.

I'm going to subpoena Donald.

Now you're in the New York courthouse.

Let's go.

Let's fight it out.

Now, it will be interesting now if Melania counter-sues him for defamation,

even though she didn't do that with Hunter, because I think she's terrified of the discovery.

And Michael Wolf made it clear on the Might As Touch Network: I want to know her background.

Obviously, she rolled in the same circles as Epstein because we see the photos.

And Michael Wolfe's like, what's defamatory about what I said?

That you had an association with somebody who you're photographed with?

Like,

what are you saying?

The issue is you met Trump at the Kit Kat Club,

which was part of a shady circle of modeling people with questionable things happening.

I'm questioning it.

I want to know what that's about.

And so Wolf says, I've sued her.

And you got to give Wolf credit for just doing it, for going for it and saying, I'm suing you.

I want discovery.

Let's go.

Let's duke it out.

We'll see if she countersues him or what she's going to do now.

But she...

She's been going and threatening reporters all across the country, threatening, threatening, threatening, threatening.

And she hasn't actually acted on any of those cases by filing the suit as it relates to Epstein.

So

we'll follow that.

And then finally, like Streisan effect sort of thing, right?

Like, because now, like, the more I, the more she protests the story, the more she threatens to sue, especially when it's not followed up with action, the more I'm like, okay, well, what's there then?

What are you trying to hide?

And I think we actually do need to know more information now.

So let's get you under oath.

Let's do the deposition.

Let's,

let's hear the truth.

Okay.

Let's get everybody who may know something about this, right?

The truth should be exposed.

Let's get some sunlight on it.

Absolutely.

Last story I want to talk about.

It's important in shedding light and bringing sunlight to the Trump corruption.

So Donald Trump pardoned someone by the name of,

who goes by the name of CZ,

a billionaire Bitcoin exchange, a crypto exchange person.

He runs something called Binance.

His net worth has increased from like a billion dollars in 2019 to like $80 billion

now.

He's one of the main funders and one of the initial funders of Trump's family business with the Witcoffs, World Liberty Financial.

That's where Trump gets a lot.

You know how Trump's doubled his wealth or tripled his wealth into the billions?

One of the things, his family has a massive stake in World Liberty Financial and these stable coins and these meme coins that Trump has

in his Bitcoin business and meme coin business and stablecoin stuff is where Trump's deriving a lot of wealth from.

So this World Liberty financial thing is an area where the Trump family got a lot of funds and a lot of money from this guy, CZ.

So Trump pardoned this guy.

This guy pled guilty to like money laundering back in 2023, was going to pay $4 billion in restitution was owed to the government.

When you pardon someone, the restitution goes away as well.

So would not owe that money.

I'm not sure if any was paid to date.

I doubt it, but we'll see.

But 4 billion was going to be owed.

So where do you think that 4 billion probably is going to end up or portions of that are going to potentially end up?

We'd say a good return on investment for this guy, CZ Zhao.

And, you know, and Trump just, Trump just, Trump just part of the guy.

The guy pled guilty to, it was like money laundering.

His platform.

was alleged to be knowingly allowing like Hamas and al-Qaeda and terrorist groups to use.

Yeah, and they weren't reporting any of that stuff.

Like willfully, they were choosing not to report any of that stuff.

To add another layer to this, one of the lobbyists that was hired to help facilitate, to facilitate the pardon was this guy, Shea McDowell, who just so happens to be a hunting buddy of none other than Donald Trump Jr.

And he and Donald Trump Jr.

were spotted at the White House last week talking to Donald Trump.

So Trump could try to play dumb.

He could try to say, oh, you just, you know, he yelled at a reporter today who asked about this.

I think he did the same thing where he's like, what'd you say?

Huh?

What'd What'd you say?

And then he's like, Oh, shut up.

You don't know nothing.

You know nothing about crypto.

You're fake news.

You're fake news as he does.

But this is just the latest example of Donald Trump's corrupt pay-for-uh pardon schemes.

We've seen this before.

We will see it again.

It's corruption of the highest order.

It's very direct A to B corruption.

We've never seen anything like this in our history, which goes back to my idea for the Constitutional Amendment that I think at some point people should be fighting for because this is it's it's insane what we're seeing.

It certainly uh does not feel like the united states of america it feels much more like uh you know like like russia to be honest we covered a lot on this episode but i think we've touched upon everything you need to know heading into the weekend as of this recording though as well um please make sure that you subscribe to our youtube channel subscribe on audio uh leave a five-star review on audio become a member of our youtube channel and gift memberships to others who may not be able to afford it if you can i know that would be very helpful to a lot of people.

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Stay in the fight.

For real, stay in this fight.

We together, you, this whole community, we're holding the line.

Trump's getting more and more desperate, more and more brazen, but more and more desperate.

And we have to hold the line.

They want to destroy our spirit, destroy our hope.

And we have to be there for each other.

We have to fight with each other always, shoulder to shoulder.

That's what we are going to do together.

Thank you all so much.

We'll see you next time on the Midas Dutch podcast.

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