The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Voters Get Destroyed by his Latest Order

February 10, 2025 16m
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Trump voters learning their schools and jobs have likely been destroyed by Trump’s latest Executive Order. Fatty15: Get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to https://fatty15.com/MEIDAS and using code MEIDAS at checkout. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And now you're going to lose hundreds of thousands of jobs because Donald Trump is gutting the National Institutes of Health and the CDC and other groups that help fund the major universities in red states. Red states are going to be hit the hardest by this move that we learned at the end of last week that NIH says it's cutting about $9 billion in federal research grants supporting medical research ranging from cancer to Alzheimer's disease.
Quote, I think it's going to destroy universities in the short term, and I don't know after that is what most university leaders are now saying. So yes, indeed, the NIH plans to slash support for indirect research costs, which has now sent shockwaves through universities and science research centers.
As Eric Fagelding explains, these great public universities and GOP states will lose at least $1 billion each or total due to the Trump NIH cuts. I wonder how their senators feel about decimating their universities of innovation.
So you take a look, for example, of University of Texas Southern Medical Center, the reduction in their indirect costs, about $160 million. They're funded by about $400 million of the NIH.
University of Alabama, $300 million. University of Florida, $500 million.
Vanderbilt University, $250 million. University of Oklahoma Health Science Center, $200 million.
University of Kansas Medical Center, $150 million. dollars.
University of Oklahoma Health Science Center, $200 million. University of Kansas Medical Center, $150 million.
University of Kentucky, $350 million. University of Mississippi Medical Center, $100 million.
University of Nebraska Medical Center, $180 million. University of South Carolina School of Medicine, $120 million.
As the Tennessee Holler account, which I like them a lot, which they said, Trump is cutting billions in biomedical research funding, which will have a large impact on Tennessee, including and especially Williamson County. So, you know, I wonder just how these red counties and red states and red areas are going to be responding to this.
Eric Feigolding then goes, torpedoing medical research. NIH indirect grant funding just got slashed to 15%.
What does this mean for you? Colleges and universities won't be able to support students. Tuition will increase, especially graduate students and researchers who find cures and preventions for diseases that kill people.
Democratic Congress member Jamie Raskin explains this is yet another deep wound inflicted against American medicine, science, and health by Trump and Elon Musk's juvenile night crew of data thieves following the project 2025 playbook, which Trump disavowed in the campaign. Democratic Congress member Jerry Nadler says, Trump's drastic NIH cuts will set back the promise of life-saving cures and cost American jobs, especially in the 12 mostly red states where universities are the largest employers.
Democrats have a better way, fund science, protect jobs, and put progress over politics. But I guess there's another way they're doing it in Texas where measles has now had a major resurgence and outbreak in Texas's least vaccinated counties.
And this county read 91% voted for Trump. I think their vaccination rate is the lowest in the state.
They have measles there and it is spreading. This is from the local Alabama paper.
NIH cuts threatened the University of Alabama, Birmingham and beyond. It just got real in Alabama.
This is from the local journalism in Alabama. The National Institutes of Health on Friday night announced huge cuts to biomedical research grants, a move that would deeply impact the University of Alabama at Birmingham.
A huge Alabama employer, not to mention Birmingham and its suburbs and healthcare across the state, not to mention human lives. The University of Alabama at Birmingham has received more than a billion dollars in NIH funding in recent years and relied heavily on those and other federal grants for its rise to prominence.
In bragging about setting a $774.5 million federal funding record in 2022, more than a $400 million of it from NIH, UAB issued a press release boasting that it remained in the top 1% of all NIH-funded institutions, public or private. Furthermore, more it said all six of UAB's health-related schools are in the top 15 public universities in NIH funding for fiscal year 2022.
These cuts, if they stand, will be devastating. The cuts target indirect grant costs, which provide funds above the amount of the grant for things like administration, equipment, or other items needed

to make the actual project work. NIH announced Friday night that it would limit that indirect amount to 15% of the grant.
It is unclear exactly what UAB's indirect rate has been. I've been told everything from 30% to 56%, and honestly, I don't know, but it appears to be much higher than averages.
NIH funding, according to the Daily Nebraskan, could cost Nebraska taxpayers $27 million. University of Nebraska President Jeffrey Gold, in a late night announcement to faculty, staff and students Saturday, said new guidance on how the National Institutes of Health Awards grants could cost NU and the state nearly $30 million.
The NIH announced that it would set a standard indirect cost rate of 15%, it said. Molly Jungfast, good reporter, great reporter, she explained, I don't think the richest guy in the world should be cutting funding for cancer research, to which Elon Musk then responded,

I'm not. What the F are you talking about? To which she responded, the Trump administration is cutting billions of dollars in biomedical research funding, alarming academic leaders who said it would imperil their university medical centers.
On the Reddit message boards, I'm seeing this posted right now.

Conservative message boards here. This is a three-time Trump voter freaking out about the NIH cuts.
And this Trump voter says, why is no one discussing this here? This is on the conservative message board. I work as a scientist, PhD level, and my colleagues are term.

It's not overhead or indirect costs as you would expect, but things like utilities, building maintenance and servers for data. To make a long story short, summary is that the newest Doge idea is capping indirect grant funds at 15%.
Most universities are 30 to 55%. This would result in mass job loss, halting of science, tech, engineering, PhD training, and would start to threaten the closure of research universities and medical school research wings.
If you want to lose to China, India, or Europe in science and medicine, this is how you do it. I dedicated my life to the pursuit of genomics, genomics work that helps others and has application in cancer, dementia, and more.
Now my jobs and others are in danger because Doge can't read and assume that indirect costs somehow equate to DEI and that they are not needed. This is a terrible idea, and I'm wondering why no one here seems to be discussing it.
These things take effect Monday and were shadily announced Friday night after business hours. This does nothing to curb DEI woke jobs.
It will actually kill college towns and medical scientific research in America. We scientists will start losing our jobs or closing labs if colleges can't get funding.
Expect that we will lose the tech arm race and medical research centers to other countries. Expect our country to start dumbing down.
Well, 60% of our country has below a fifth grade education. But look, I'll tell you what the big priorities are of the Trump administration, allowing immigration from white South Africans.
That's the big priority right now. Trump signs an executive order prioritizing U.S.
settlement of white South Africans for discrimination, trying to get all the white South Africans here. Wonder why that policy is in place with Elon, given Elon Musk's own immigration background.
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Trump's Venezuelan supporters, they have lost their TPS, their temporary protected status, while the Trump administration's cut a deal with Maduro to send the Venezuelans who were here lawfully with TPS either back to Venezuela at concentration camps in Guantanamo Bay or even perhaps to El Salvador. because why not if you're the Trump administration? Just send different people to different countries.

So El Salvador, because why not if you're the Trump administration? Just send

different people to different countries. So El Salvador's a possibility as well.
Got one person right here, a Trump supporter. What a shit show MAGA has become.
Remember once I supported them, it's turning into white propaganda led by J.D. Vance, who's openly promoting anti-India hate.
I'm not sure if it's becoming. It kind of always has been.
And then saw this on some of the message boards. Dog, I wouldn't have voted for Trump if I knew all this.
So this is actually true. Why would you vote for someone you didn't research? Dog, this is my first time voting, and I thought politics was just fun like sports.
Well, the leopards are eating your faces now, and unfortunately, you've inflicted this on the rest of the country. And, you know, we prefer to live in a peaceful, productive, strengthening our alliances type country,

not whatever the hell this is, but this is where we are.

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