Ep. 1846 - 10,000 Attend JD Vance & Erika Kirk’s Viral Campus Speech

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Speaker 11 Vance showed up to speak with Erica Kirk last night at Ole Miss to an audience of over 10,000. The event was remarkable for a number of reasons.
One, it carried on Charlie's legacy.

Speaker 11 Two, it showed leadership and coalition building. But three, the most notable part came in the Q ⁇ A

Speaker 11 when the vice president rewrote GOP Orthodoxy. to bring it more in line with classical conservatism, with Gen Z conservatism in particular, and also coincidentally with the truth.
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Speaker 11 As the government shutdown carries on, there's some threats to the SNAP program ebt food food stamps there's a video gone viral of an iraqi refugee put refugee in quotes because he's he's a guy he's a grown man he seems to be totally able-bodied looks like he could work and support himself and he's gone viral for saying that he won't be able to stay in this country if the government doesn't pay for his food raises a lot of questions, actually.

Speaker 11 This shutdown has exposed a lot, I think. But one thing it's exposed is all of the abuses to our entitlement programs, how they manipulate the rest of the economy.
So we will get to that momentarily.

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Speaker 11 Senator Rand Paul. I can't say he's my senator.
He is like the top hat to my state.

Speaker 11 He is the senator from Kentucky and obviously a stalwart, especially on matters of government spending, who's going to give us a little update on this never-ending government shutdown.

Speaker 11 Senator, thank you for coming on the show.

Speaker 12 Thanks for having me.

Speaker 11 So, Senator, I was at your place of work two days ago, and it was very weird because there were many fewer people in the Capitol than there usually are. Traffic in D.C.
was great.

Speaker 11 I could get from Reagan airport to the Capitol, and I in no time. I don't know.
To me, this government shutdown seemed pretty good.

Speaker 11 There's some polling that suggests that the shutdown really hasn't worked for Democrats in the way they thought that it would.

Speaker 11 And so as a result, there seems to be no impetus to actually reopen the government. I mean, from the legislature, where does it stand?

Speaker 12 You know, there's always the danger that government closes down and no one notices. And that's a little bit of why Typically, people will play it up.

Speaker 12 You know, you remember when one of the shutdowns, I think this was under Obama, he closed down the overlook on the side of the road to see Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 12 They actually sent people out there with pylons and tape and roped it off. It actually involved effort because no one is usually there.
You just pull over and it's a viewpoint. But

Speaker 12 I think that what hasn't been discussed enough of is the Democrats' objections. People gloss over it.
They say, well, they're objecting because they want these Obamacare subsidies.

Speaker 12 Well, someone should discuss what they are. It's if you make $225,000 a year, the Obamacare subsidy gives you $1,500.

Speaker 12 If you make $100,000 a year, you get $13,000.

Speaker 12 So the Democrats are refusing to go along with the spending level that they voted for last year. Essentially, these are the Biden spending levels.

Speaker 12 They're refusing to vote again for them because unless they get subsidies for rich people. I mean, really.

Speaker 12 Food stamps are going to end, you know, in a couple of days, but they're doing this because they want to make sure somebody making $100,000 a year gets a $13,000 health care premium subsidy.

Speaker 12 So I think it's a ridiculous notion. And ultimately, the Democrats will have to come back to the table.
Now, from my point of view, both the plans are terrible.

Speaker 12 I mean, the Republican plan will add $2 trillion in debt. The Democrat, the Democrat, the Democrat, the Democrat.

Speaker 12 I would prefer something that I've presented, which is called the Penny Plan, which would actually balance the budget over about a five-year period.

Speaker 11 Well, I love that point, actually, actually, because when I looked at the proposal, you know, the continuing resolution and then looking ahead to some of the budgetary fights, I thought

Speaker 11 this doesn't change all that much. I mean, the CR is literally, as you say, just giving Democrats the opportunity to go along with something they already voted for under Biden.

Speaker 11 So then what changes do they want? I suspect they honed in on this healthcare issue because it's one of the few issues that they still seem to be above water on.

Speaker 11 There was a poll came out, I forget who put it out about a month ago, showed Democrats are on the wrong side of basically every major political issue other than women's issues, which are not a high priority for most voters.

Speaker 11 It really just means abortion. Environmentalism, not a high priority for most voters, and healthcare.
So they said, okay, we'll double down on health care.

Speaker 11 But when you dig into the reality of it, there was this problem of subsidizing health care for illegal aliens. And then, as you point out, subsidies for rich people.
So

Speaker 11 then my question is: if the shutdown isn't hurting Republicans and the Democrats maybe launched it as a Hail Mary, it's not really working for them either,

Speaker 11 what's going to actually reopen the government? Is it going to be the end of the SNAP program? Is it going to be flights being delayed or canceled?

Speaker 11 When do we think it'll reopen?

Speaker 12 I think

Speaker 12 it's going to happen soon because I think the Democrats, their whole history has been criticizing Republicans for shutting down the government.

Speaker 12 Now that they're on the side of not continuing their current spending levels, levels, I think really

Speaker 12 they're beginning to break. I think that within a week, the government will reopen again.

Speaker 12 And I think it happens quicker the more of the public understands that they're shutting it down in order to preserve subsidies for rich people.

Speaker 12 I mean, this has not been discussed in the mainstream media. Very few people have dug into the details.
We're not talking about health care for people making $25,000, $5,000, $5,000, $5,000.

Speaker 12 We're talking about subsidies for people making $200,000 a year. It's completely insane.

Speaker 12 And I think if you polled the issue, are you with Democrats on health care if it means they're closing the government down to preserve subsidies for people making $200,000 a year? It's a loser.

Speaker 12 But the only reason they're winning on it is because nobody has any idea what they're actually advocating.

Speaker 11 It's a great point, Senator Paul.

Speaker 11 I think you've thrown it into stark relief that, you know, early on, we said, look, we all agree this shutdown is about Democrats trying to make some move on health care.

Speaker 11 But then when you dig into the details, okay, how many Americans really want to subsidize health care for illegal aliens? How many Americans think that rich people

Speaker 11 don't get enough? You know,

Speaker 11 we need to really focus on the rich. Won't somebody please think about the rich people? So a great point.

Speaker 11 I'm seeing some reporting now coming out of the Hill that says that Democrats are starting to get a little weak in the knee. Amazing.

Speaker 11 I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime that a government shutdown would not be blamed on Republicans and that the Democrats would have to buckle.

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Speaker 11 I talked about it a little bit with Senator Paul. Even CNN has to admit this shutdown is not working for Democrats.

Speaker 14 Starting with Republicans, how has the shutdown seemed to have affected their political standing?

Speaker 15 Yeah, you might think, given that the Republicans are in charge of both the House and the Senate, that a government shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand. But in fact, it hasn't.

Speaker 15 If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a look here, the shift in net popularity versus pre-shutdown.

Speaker 15 When we're looking at the Republican Party overall, that brand actually up two points. That's within the margin of error, but clearly it hasn't dropped.
Come over to this side of the screen.

Speaker 15 Look at the net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress. It's actually up five points since pre-shutdown.

Speaker 15 So what we're seeing here is the Republican brand in Congress has actually improved somewhat compared to where we were pre-shut down, despite the fact that Republicans control.

Speaker 15 And that's the math that Jon Thune and Mike Johnson are looking at is, hey, why should we give an electorally speaking when our brand has actually improved a little bit?

Speaker 11 This is not even just with the Republican base because you can say, okay, well, the reason why the popularity has gone up overall three points is because,

Speaker 11 you know, the Republican base just really, really loves this. So even if the Democrats and independents hate it, you know, it just balances out and actually adds a few points anyway.

Speaker 11 No, they're up eight points even with independents.

Speaker 11 And the reason for this is Democrats thought that this was all politics as usual and nothing's changed in the last five or 10 years.

Speaker 11 And so the Republicans are always going to be blamed for a shutdown, even if it's the Democrats who shut it down. And I guess the point, and we'll really get to this with J.D.

Speaker 11 Vance and Erica Kirk at all missed last night. The point is, no, politics has changed radically, seismically.

Speaker 11 And Democrats are playing the old songbook. It's not working anymore.
It doesn't work on the audience.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 Democrats shut the government down because nothing was working for them and they were on the wrong side of virtually every AD-20 issue.

Speaker 11 They thought they had a chance to push this on health care using a tactic that always worked for them, that always redounded to the detriment of Republicans. And none of that worked.

Speaker 11 None of that worked. And now you're seeing, Senator Paul thinks it'll be within a week, you you are seeing

Speaker 11 the Democrats even have to backtrack on that.

Speaker 11 In other words, we are in uncharted waters. Now, the CNN pollster, I don't know, I got to start watching CNN.

Speaker 11 When they talk about the polls, the hard data that are a little more difficult to manipulate than the opinion programming.

Speaker 11 All the news is great for Republicans, including something we talked about yesterday. I said yesterday that Bill Gates has come out.

Speaker 11 He's one of the greatest climate alarmists in the the country, in the world. And he's come out and said, actually, climate change isn't going to kill us all.
And I said, don't be fooled.

Speaker 11 This is not Bill Gates having some change of heart that, you know, just he followed the science and the science led him on.

Speaker 11 This is a realization that climate change as a political issue is not working anymore because they promised the apocalypse, the apocalypse didn't come. Now they have to recalibrate.

Speaker 11 They're following political metrics, not scientific metrics.

Speaker 11 CNN backing that up because right now, when you hear the Democrats' tune changing on climate change, it's going to be following public opinion.

Speaker 15 A lot of people will agree with Bill Gates that maybe this wouldn't be the end of humanity. And I think, you know, we've been talking about climate change now for decades upon decades upon decades.

Speaker 15 And the worry in terms of climate change, simply put, hasn't shifted. It has not reached the majority of Americans.
What are we talking about? Greatly worried about climate change.

Speaker 15 You go all the way back to 1989, it was 35%. 2000, 40%.
2020, 46%. And in 2025, look at that.
It's 40%. The same number as we had 25 years ago back in

Speaker 15 2000. And then only just five points higher than we had back in 1989.
Really, we've just seen consistency on this issue.

Speaker 15 The bottom line is that the climate change message that folks who, of course, believe that climate change is real and is quite worrisome, simply put, has not really worked with the American people.

Speaker 14 So greatly worried. You say greatly worried.
I mean, so people say they're greatly worried 40%, but how worried, really? Is it the biggest thing they're worried about?

Speaker 15 Yeah, it is not anywhere close to being the biggest thing that people are worried about. What are we talking about here?

Speaker 15 Well, why don't we just talk about the top issue facing the U.S., climate change? Well, I got some numbers for you on the screen right here.

Speaker 11 These two guys are great.

Speaker 11 It almost is like an onion or a Babylon Beast Gadge. Well, things look really, really terrible for Democrats, but how terrible are they? They're totally freaking terrible, man.

Speaker 11 It just couldn't possibly be any worse.

Speaker 11 And why? Why?

Speaker 11 Because it used to be the case back in the heyday of wokeism,

Speaker 11 you had 3% of people say, oh, climate change is really a top priority. And now it's down to 2%.
But you saw those numbers remain pretty stable going back to 1989.

Speaker 11 And the libs have been pushing the climate change stuff since the 70s.

Speaker 11 The numbers don't really change. They got up in the 2000s.
That was kind of peak climate change hysteria. And then it just dropped back down again.
And it's always 35 to 45% somewhere in there.

Speaker 11 The one place I would disagree with those CNN pollsters, though, is they say, clearly the climate change messaging hasn't worked.

Speaker 11 And I don't think that's fair to say, because you did have the numbers increase into the 2000s and 20 teens. I remember it.
I was there.

Speaker 11 I remember when people sincerely believed that the sun monster was going to kill us all. I remember when people would not have children.
They would decide not to have children.

Speaker 11 because they didn't want to bring them into a world of climate apocalypse.

Speaker 11 I remember when Greta Thunberg dropped out of school to sail a boat around the ocean because she thought that was going to forestall the sun monster. It was a kind of inverse rain dance or something.

Speaker 11 I remember that. I was there.
The messaging did work.

Speaker 11 It stopped working because the climate apocalypse never materialized.

Speaker 11 It was not a rhetorical problem.

Speaker 11 It was not a communications problem. It was a fact problem.
It was a science problem. The thing they said wasn't true.
So that's it. So don't let them get away with this.

Speaker 11 Don't let him say, we just need to find better ways to message around climate change. No, no, no.
You lied. In some cases, you were honestly mistaken, I guess.
Some of you were just dupes. But

Speaker 11 in some cases, you lied because climate change was always primarily a political issue, not some kind of scientific issue.

Speaker 11 And one of the pieces of evidence for that is that it was always so perfectly calculated that disaster was just on the horizon. You could see it.
You could get worried. You could be manipulated.

Speaker 11 It wasn't too far into the future that you put it off for another day. And it generally wasn't so close that there was nothing to do and we could just live it up.

Speaker 11 It was always perfectly politically calibrated. You're in the midst of a political recalibration.

Speaker 11 It's not because the Democrats just need to figure out a better way to get their message out there. It's that people don't want what they're selling.

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Speaker 11 Now you're seeing a shift on the right as well. This was just magnificently embodied last night by J.D.
Vance and Erica Kirk at the turning point stop in Ole Miss.

Speaker 11 Really, really pleased to see the vice president joining Charlie's widow here because I think J.D. Vance is probably

Speaker 11 the one figure on the right with the stature and the temperament and the

Speaker 11 platform to really keep this whole coalition together, which was something that Charlie singularly was able to do. And so I'm really pleased to see him taking time out of his busy schedule to do this.

Speaker 11 He also did the Q ⁇ A. At these kinds of events, you go, you give a speech or you have a conversation.
Charlie and I

Speaker 11 was supposed to be 12 days after he was murdered. We were going to do a little conversation at a campus, you know, back and forth.
But then, of course, the key to these events is the Q ⁇ A.

Speaker 11 For someone like Charlie, you know, a civil debater and an activist,

Speaker 11 for a communicator to go out there and do the Q ⁇ A is one thing.

Speaker 11 For the sitting vice president president to just open himself up to anybody, come with any of your questions, any of your comments, any of your complaints, is politically a very courageous thing to do.

Speaker 11 He did not disappoint in his answers. Right off the top, very fitting for the occasion and for our moment in history.
He was asked about God in the public square.

Speaker 2 Do not,

Speaker 17 you do not have to completely kick God out of the public square, which is what we've done in modern America. It's not what the founders wanted.
It's not good for the United States of America.

Speaker 17 And anybody who tells you it's required by the Constitution is lying to you.

Speaker 11 100% correct. J.D.
Vance is a graduate of what I think is still considered the most prestigious law school in the country, even though it produces a lot of crazy people.

Speaker 11 His whole answer was even better. We don't have time to get to it.
But he explained how when the First Amendment

Speaker 11 was ratified, it does not establish a firm separation of church and state. It says that there will be no religious establishment at the federal level because there were state establishments.

Speaker 11 There were churches established at the state level.

Speaker 11 I mean, this is the kind of stuff that serious conservatives, avant-garde conservatives and so, or classical conservatives, those seem like opposites, but they actually kind of go together because everything that was old is new again.

Speaker 11 We've been talking about this stuff for years. We have basically never seen this articulated by a national politician at the level of a J.D.
Vance, and he articulates it perfectly.

Speaker 11 Okay, this is really, really exciting stuff. And he doesn't just stop with Christianity there.
He makes a point about liberalism that is so precise and so necessary for understanding how to combat it.

Speaker 18 I'm thrilled to hear you articulate Christian values on a stage like this and to remind us that things we take for granted and things we value so much have a Christian origin. So thank you for that.

Speaker 18 I really mean that.

Speaker 17 However, so much of liberalism, by the way, so much of the far left is a sort of, if you really pay attention to it, it's a kind of perverted version of Christianity.

Speaker 17 Like, there's nothing wrong, of course, with focusing on people who are disenfranchised, for example. That's the focus of liberalism.

Speaker 17 But if you completely separate it from any religious duty, any civic virtue, then that can actually become, for example, an inducement to lawlessness.

Speaker 11 Yes, yes. Thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 11 Love it. When was the last time you heard a national politician at this level speaking in this way? In a way that, by the way, is very gracious to the left.

Speaker 11 Because what JD is saying here is not just, those liberals are crazy, aren't they?

Speaker 11 Or those liberals are dumb and that, you know, we all want the same ends, but, you know, we have different ways of getting there or something. Or, ah, look at the, look at the wacky left.

Speaker 11 No, he's saying the left is seeking a kind of a good. It's just that the good is perverse because it's this kind of er version of the true religion.
It's actually tracing the genealogy of liberalism.

Speaker 11 He's saying it comes from Christendom. And in that way, he's tracing the genealogy of our civilization.
He says, our civilization is Christendom, okay? And the true faith is Christianity.

Speaker 11 And the moral order derives from the Christian religion because it's all true. And then liberalism deviates from that.
And that's true.

Speaker 11 I mean, just as a matter of history, the Enlightenment Project was a way to preserve Christendom.

Speaker 11 It was supposed to be a way to preserve Christendom without all that pesky Christianity, to establish a moral order without necessarily having any firm convictions.

Speaker 11 And it's because the Enlightenment Project follows the wars of religion that occurred after the 16th century, and it just tried to create this secular rational basis for things that didn't work.

Speaker 11 And JD is saying that. He's just saying, look, this...
this

Speaker 11 the liberal ideology as well as its

Speaker 11 descendant ideologies like communism or fascism or all these things, they're just perversions of the truth because they go wrong in the first principles.

Speaker 11 And so people might earnestly be seeking the good with these ideologies. It's just not going to work because they're getting the first things wrong.
That is so accurate.

Speaker 11 It actually advances the conversation. It moves the ball down the field and it regrounds our civilization where it has to be.

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Speaker 11 He offers a major upending of GOP orthodoxy.

Speaker 19 My question to you is, what is your view on legal immigration? Personally, I have a girlfriend who's studying in America off a visa. Our hope is eventually getting a green card.

Speaker 19 So what is your view on legal immigration? Should we reduce it? Also, what is your plan for a merit-based system?

Speaker 20 Yes, sir. Well, I appreciate the question.

Speaker 20 And look, my honest view is that right now, America, thanks in part to the Biden border invasion, but also thanks in part to a lot of bad immigration policy, right now we have let in too many immigrants into the United States of America.

Speaker 20 That is just a fundamental reality.

Speaker 20 Now look, legal immigration is complicated because we let in about a million legal immigrants into the United States of America every single year.

Speaker 20 And I think the evidence is pretty clear that a lot of those immigrants are actually undercutting the wages of American workers.

Speaker 11 For most of my life, there have been two positions you can have on immigration. The Democrat position, especially recently, was legal immigration is good and illegal immigration is good too.

Speaker 11 The Republican position has been legal immigration is good, illegal immigration is bad.

Speaker 11 What J.D. Vance is saying here is, you know, we've just taken in too many immigrants.

Speaker 11 The movement of people into the United States over the last 60 years is the largest movement of people in recorded history, and it's creating social problems and there are problems of assimilation and social solidarity is breaking down.

Speaker 11 There are economic problems, problems to workers. And so we just, we have too many right now.
This is, I say it's an upending of GOP orthodoxy.

Speaker 11 It's really a return to classical conservative orthodoxy.

Speaker 11 not just conservative in the American context, conservative going all the way back to Aristotle. Yeah, you can't just flood your country with foreigners.
That's going to create problems.

Speaker 11 And even the way JD is talking about it, he doesn't say immigration is always terrible. We need to completely close the border and we need to isolate ourselves.
He's not saying that.

Speaker 11 He's saying, yeah, right now we've just taken in too many, which means he recognizes prudence. as the paramount political virtue.

Speaker 11 He's recognizing that at some periods, you might call for some immigration. At other periods, you're going to want to restrict immigration.

Speaker 11 And he's calling for a reduction in immigration overall, not just illegal, but legal too. This is precisely my position.

Speaker 11 This is precisely the correct position. I think this is certainly where Gen Z conservatives are.

Speaker 11 I think this is where the GOP base is and has been for a very long time, even though the politicians haven't reflected it. Brilliant answer from JD.
I'll just get to one or two more.

Speaker 11 I'll keep them pretty quick. Here's one.
Here is an answer on the question of values. How are we supposed to think about values in America?

Speaker 11 That to me, I want this answer to be condensed into a liquid form and injected straight into my veins.

Speaker 17 I actually, I think the premise of your question, I don't totally share it because I don't think perfect neutrality is possible. What is it? You talk about history.

Speaker 17 Was Christopher Columbus a great explorer or was he a guy who committed genocide against the native populations?

Speaker 17 These debates, I'm happy to have them, but I reject the idea that there are truly neutral debates. Anybody who's telling you their view is neutral likely has an agenda to sell you.

Speaker 17 And I'm at least honest about the fact that I think the Christian foundation of this country is a good thing.

Speaker 11 Straight into my veins. Straight, this is it.
This is abolish term limits.

Speaker 11 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 11 It's obviously true. Serious political thinkers have known this since time immemorial, but there is a lie.

Speaker 11 that goes along with liberalism, that says that liberalism is neutral. That's just neutral.
That says that, for instance, secularism or atheism in public is just neutral.

Speaker 11 This view would have been abhorrent to our founding fathers, the framers of our Constitution, even the early liberals like John Locke and John Milton. But liberalism pretends anyway.

Speaker 11 And in some ways, this is a consequence of liberal political philosophy, but they say, oh, it's just neutral.

Speaker 11 Look, I don't have a partisan view. I don't have invective.
I don't have a polemical view. No, no, no.
I'm just, my view is the neutral view. But there is no neutral view because

Speaker 11 all views come from some premises, axioms, first principles. And what the liberals try to do with their neutral nonsense is they try to smuggle in their false premises.

Speaker 11 Their false premise that, for instance, we can't know the difference between a man and a woman. I mean, that's what they say.
Look, our view. on transgender, ours is the neutral view.

Speaker 11 We're not picking sides. Well, you are by

Speaker 11 not allowing people to

Speaker 11 believe what humans have always believed everywhere and what their own eyes tell them about the difference between a man and a woman. That is not neutral.

Speaker 11 You're forcing a certain view on people, by forcing Christianity to the public square, by arresting pro-lifers praying in an abortion clinic, by persecuting nuns as the Obama-Biden administration did.

Speaker 11 These are not neutral things.

Speaker 11 By exalting all sorts of perverse ideology, that's non-neutral. And JD says, look, here are my premises.
Here's where I'm coming from.

Speaker 11 I'm basically coming from the same place that the wise statesmen in our civilization have always come from. But yeah, I think there's a Christian religious foundation.

Speaker 11 Those other guys, they're not going to tell you where they're coming from. They pretend it's neutral, but where they're coming from is much more dubious.
Okay, last bit on how we fight the left.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 17 here's something that I want conservatives, I want every conservative to remember, it's an important part of my entire political philosophy, is we cannot be afraid to do something because the left might do it in the future.

Speaker 17 The left is already going to do it regardless of whether we do it.

Speaker 11 There it is. There it is.
The takeover is complete of the GOP by the conservatives from the squishes. I love this because for years, and I find it nauseating,

Speaker 11 the squishes have said, well, we can't.

Speaker 11 We can't wield political power because if we wield political power, can you imagine in the future when the Democrats get the power back, what they might have used power on us?

Speaker 11 This after

Speaker 11 the Democrats have justified the murder of our president,

Speaker 11 have tried to imprison him four times, kick him off the ballot, imprisoned relatively peaceful protesters,

Speaker 11 infiltrated Catholic churches under the Biden DOJ, let their violent criminals off the hook, in some cases encouraged political violence against us. This after this, we say, but

Speaker 11 we can't justly wield the law because

Speaker 11 then the Democrats in the future might unjustly wield the law, which they're already doing.

Speaker 11 Vance saying we got to have courage and we got to be able to do things and not just be cowards and squishes and exalt procedural norms, dubious procedural norms at that, over substantive goods, not going to do it anymore.

Speaker 11 This is

Speaker 11 really good stuff. As you know, I'm an admirer of the vice president.
He's impressed me before, never more so than last night at Ole Miss.

Speaker 11 And he did it, you know, to honor his very close friend, Charlie, on stage with Charlie's widow at this major event for the preeminent young conservative organization in American politics.

Speaker 11 It's just...

Speaker 11 It's just real encouraging. I guess that's how I would have to put it.
It's just real, real encouraging.

Speaker 11 This is a guy who knows what time it is, and he's actually has the position and the stature to do something about it. Great stuff.

Speaker 11 Now, meanwhile, the left, which has just tried to tell me on Capitol Hill that they don't support political violence, they don't condone any of that.

Speaker 11 A left-wing podcaster has gone viral for her hideous comments celebrating the murder of Charlie.

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Speaker 11 This refers to Zorun Mamdani's Auntgate. Remember, he said his aunt, you know, after 9-11, was the real victim because she felt nervous wearing a hijab on the subway.

Speaker 11 Then it found out that actually she didn't wear a hijab and she didn't live in New York. And he said, Oh, well, no, it's actually my dad's cousin, my aunt.

Speaker 11 You know, well, anyway, this comment says, Maybe

Speaker 11 his cousin really is his aunt. You aren't accounting for intermarriage.
That's a good point. Certain cultures have very, very high rates

Speaker 11 of cousin marriage. That's true.
That's true. Certain cultures do.
Not our culture, but other cultures do.

Speaker 11 You're seeing 30%, 40%, maybe higher. So, anyway,

Speaker 11 I don't know. Maybe Zoran can clarify.
Okay.

Speaker 11 After Charlie was murdered, the left minimized, excused, and in some cases celebrated at all levels, at all levels, from the fringe people to the mainstream people, from the normies to the

Speaker 11 famous people, at all levels. You saw this.
And then they tried to deny it.

Speaker 11 And we saw this on Capitol Hill because there was this Senate hearing on political violence that half the Democrats didn't even show up to. And the ones who did show up shed crocodile tears.

Speaker 11 And they said, we all condemn political violence we would never encourage this sort of thing as they say this

Speaker 11 a

Speaker 11 left-wing podcaster jennifer welch goes viral for saying this

Speaker 13 horrible charlie kirk is horrible yes i'm glad he's not here

Speaker 21 you're glad he's dead yes why would you say something like that ma'am he was horrible on the campuses the college campuses

Speaker 6 horrible person you know what i do the exact same thing

Speaker 6 would you be glad if i would die maybe

Speaker 4 I'd have to think about it. She likes to be aware of that.
You have to be ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 6 Her friend just said she'd be happy if I died.

Speaker 6 So listen up, democratic establishment. You can either jump on board with this

Speaker 6 or we're coming after you in the same way that we come after MAGA. That woman out in somewhere middle America saying,

Speaker 13 Charlie Kirk, he was a racist.

Speaker 6 He was a piece of shit.

Speaker 6 There are so many more of us than there are of them.

Speaker 11 I'm inclined to believe her. I'm inclined to believe her because of what I saw from the prominent streamers, from what I saw from the legacy news outlets, from what I saw

Speaker 11 as Charlie was being killed. You had a Democrat analyst on MSNBC blaming him for it.

Speaker 11 To say nothing of the normies on Facebook, I think this is right. I think there are a lot more

Speaker 11 people in left-wing activism who were minimizing and celebrating Charlie's murder than there were people condemning political violence.

Speaker 11 And lest I be accused of pointing to some random woman, because I didn't know really who that woman was, Jennifer Welch. Oh, you're just picking some random kook.
She doesn't know anything.

Speaker 11 She just was seeking attention. She's just going viral for, well, here's a little clip of Jennifer Welch sitting down with the Democratic leader from the House of Representatives, Hakeem Jeffries.

Speaker 6 Tell your coworkers to come on, too. We've had a lot of them on and we really like them as well.

Speaker 12 Will do. Thank you for what you both do.

Speaker 22 I really appreciate it. Look forward to staying in close touch.
And we're in this fight until we win this fight and end this national nightmare and get America back on track.

Speaker 11 Yeah, thank you. Thank you for what you both do.
I, the most prominent Democrat in the country, just about, I would like to thank you.

Speaker 11 Oh, that's so nice of you, Hakeem, because we've had a bunch of your colleagues on too. Yeah,

Speaker 11 this is not a minor figure,

Speaker 11 like, you know, relative to Hakeem Jeffries, maybe, but this is a real person

Speaker 11 who really represents a lot of Democrats, as we've seen from survey after survey, as we've seen from the comments of the Democrats after Charlie's murder, as we saw two days ago on Capitol Hill when the Democrats, by and large, boycotted a Senate hearing on political violence.

Speaker 11 That's it.

Speaker 11 And so what are we supposed to do? We're supposed to sit back and be afraid of wielding political power in a just way, because by golly, the Democrats, we might make the Democrats angry.

Speaker 11 They're angry. They don't like us.

Speaker 11 So there are two things we can do. We can either lash out in a vigilante sort of way, which I would strongly discourage because it's intrinsically unjust, or

Speaker 11 we can get rid of one of the old

Speaker 11 slogans of the right, which is that, you know, government can't really do anything and politics is always downstream of culture.

Speaker 11 We can recognize some ancient classical conservative wisdom that the law is a teacher, and we can wield the law in a just way, not only to protect innocent people, but also to help educate these leftists

Speaker 11 who are engaged in behaviors that are disordered for society, contrary to the common good, but also bad for them individually.

Speaker 11 I don't think these are happy people,

Speaker 11 the ones who are out shrieking and screaming and calling for the murder of their countrymen.

Speaker 11 I don't think they're happy people. We have not only the right to wield the law in a way that helps to protect us and innocent people and America.

Speaker 11 We have the responsibility to wield the law in such a way that helps to educate these people and pulls them back from the brink of madness or past the brink of madness, which is where they are.

Speaker 11 We need a little more uniformity in America, I think. I know, you know, the left always prattles on about diversity.
You know, diversity is our strength. But even America, sorry,

Speaker 11 the left and Americans. Wow, that was a Freudian slip.
And that's a lot of truth in that, I think.

Speaker 11 But even on the right, even on the right, you'll have people exalt diversity of thought on college campuses, for instance, as a good in itself. Diversity of thought is not a good in itself.

Speaker 11 We like it as a particular kind of good on a college campus because it's uniformly left-wing. So diversity of thought is good in as much as it introduces more conservative thought on campus.

Speaker 11 But diversity of thought is not... is not a good in and of itself.
You have on the left and the right, this exaltation of diversity is some kind of great strength.

Speaker 11 Pete Hank Seth, Secretary of War, shows up, speaks to some of our soldiers, and explains the reality.

Speaker 23 You see, I look out at this crowd and I see a lot of diverse faces. A lot of faces.

Speaker 23 Black, brown, white, and otherwise. From small towns, from big cities, rich, poor.
I don't know you, and you don't know me.

Speaker 23 But I don't look at you and see who you are based on the color of your skin. I look at you as a fellow American who bleeds red.
Our strength is not our diversity, our strength is our common purpose.

Speaker 23 Our strength is our unity. Our strength is our mission.
Our strength is our oath to the Constitution that we will defend each other.

Speaker 23 That's our strength. That's what the world sees.
That's what I saw inside my platoon. That's what I see across this beautiful ship.

Speaker 11 Okay, this is a great moment in the evolution of American conservatism, I think.

Speaker 11 Because notice, what is Pete saying here? What Pete's saying is extremely moderate, extremely moderate.

Speaker 11 Pete is embracing colorblind meritocracy. I'm sure the left is going to try to call it racist and whatever, but it's

Speaker 11 completely the opposite.

Speaker 11 This is as moderate as it gets in any reasonable amount of thinking. He's saying, as a matter of principle, diversity does not conduce to strength.

Speaker 11 Uniformity does. Think about like a chain.

Speaker 11 Think about any kind of construction. You want uniformity, not just like random stuff hodgepodge together.
So he says, in principle, uniformity, not diversity, is our strength.

Speaker 11 And we have a colorblind meritocracy in the military. And what is your strength is not your race or whatever.
It's your common purpose as Americans. It's embracing a kind of civic nationalism.

Speaker 11 This is very, very moderate.

Speaker 11 And it's viewed as a major shift because it is, because we have heard this diversity is our strength stuff for over 30 years. And it was actually a Republican who coined that phrase.

Speaker 11 I think it was Dan Quayle when he was vice president to George H.W. Bush coined that phrase, diversity is our strength, during a press gaggle in Japan.

Speaker 11 Okay, so you can't even just blame the left for it. It was the right too.
And it was always totally preposterous. It's led to a total breakdown in social solidarity.

Speaker 11 And now you have Mr. Mainstream.
I mean, this is why I think it's so important that it's Pete Hegset saying this and that he's saying this in such a moderate way. Pete is a Fox News host, okay?

Speaker 11 Morning host. This is not a fringe figure or a radical figure in any way whatsoever.

Speaker 11 And he's coming out and saying diversity is our strength. That is totally nuts.
We're done with that. Something has shifted.
There has been a major change in American politics.

Speaker 11 The Democrats clearly have not caught up with that. They haven't paid attention.
That's why they lost the popular vote for the first time in 20 years in November.

Speaker 11 That's why they're losing the shutdown fight for the first time in my lifetime, maybe the first time ever. They haven't figured out that shift has happened.

Speaker 11 JD Vance is, I think, a little bit more on the bleeding edge of that, as he showed last night at Ole Miss. But you're seeing it everywhere.
You're seeing it everywhere.

Speaker 11 And the way Pete put it, No one would, no serious person would dispute that.

Speaker 11 That's an 80-20 issue right there. That's yet another 80-20 issue that this administration is on the right side of.
Now, speaking of diversity, clip going viral. This one really,

Speaker 11 as we hear all the fear-mongering about the end of the SNAP program and the ongoing shutdown,

Speaker 11 here's one of the people who's really upset about problems with the SNAP program. This is an Iraqi refugee

Speaker 11 whining

Speaker 11 because the government's taken away his cheese.

Speaker 8 Without the

Speaker 8 government support, I cannot stay maybe a month or two months.

Speaker 13 Pima County Chairman Rex Scott told News for Tucson he's deeply concerned about the impact on local refugees.

Speaker 11 Really, really concerned. How can he stay if he doesn't get, if you don't pay for his food?

Speaker 11 Now,

Speaker 11 remember, we're talking about shifts to the Republican

Speaker 11 coalition and political vision. For a long time, it was this hardcore libertarian, exalting the free market, Ayn Rand kind of vision that was very

Speaker 11 opposed in principle even to welfare programs. I think that's deader than disco, and that's certainly not my view.

Speaker 11 My view is more infused with classical conservative concepts, Catholic social teaching.

Speaker 11 I have no problem in principle with a social welfare system. The way our market is set up, there will always be some degree of unemployment.

Speaker 11 So actually, just as a pure matter of justice, you need to have some kind of unemployment insurance, And we have a responsibility to take care of the poor. And we live in society.

Speaker 11 Man is inclined to live in an ordered society. That's one of the primary precepts of the natural law.

Speaker 11 There are all sorts of reasons that in principle, it's good to take care of the poor. Oppression of the poor is one of the sins that cries out to God.

Speaker 11 Now,

Speaker 11 there are questions about how best to do that, you know, what's most efficient and what actually, it seems like it's helping people, but it might hurt people.

Speaker 11 But I think we would all say if someone's severely disabled and elderly and mentally handicapped and has all

Speaker 11 probably they should be entitled to some kind of social program, right? Maybe, so long as it doesn't crowd out the church and the family. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 11 What about this able-bodied Iraqi who's in America for some reason? I don't know why he's here. I don't know what brought him over here.
Maybe there's a good reason. Maybe it's a bad reason.

Speaker 11 Why can't that guy get a job? Why can't that guy do any work?

Speaker 11 If he won't work, why is he here? How many other people who won't won't work are here who otherwise could?

Speaker 11 How much of the exploding cost of groceries is due to the fact that we pay for a lot of people's groceries and not just the people who really need it, who can't fend for themselves, but for that guy, an entitled, able-bodied foreigner who's in America.

Speaker 11 taking your money and whining when the government is shut down and he can't get the government cheese.

Speaker 11 Wow. This shutdown is really redounding to the detriment of Democrats in multiple ways.
Shows they're on the wrong side of a ton of issues. It shows they've lost their chief tactic.

Speaker 11 And I think it's revealing a lot of the problems with the programs that are already in place, the ones that they're seeking to expand.

Speaker 11 Let's see here if he can't stay in the country if we don't keep paying for his stuff. All right.
Okay. Deal.
Deal. You drive a hard bargain, Mr.
Iraqi, but okay.

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