From Mowing Lawns to Madison Square: The Grind to Pro | Andre Berto 🥊 E123

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a very special edition of the Money Mondays.

Normally, we do this podcast inside of an RV motorhome for the last 125-ish episodes, but my friend is in town.

He's about to host a big boxing event going on right outside of the W Hotel in Hollywood.

So I'm here with Roger and Freddie, the content CEO inside the studio.

So I decided, why don't we make a podcast real quick before Andre Berto, the legend in the boxing space, goes downstairs and hosts this big event.

So, as you guys know, we cover three core topics: how to make money, how to invest money, how to give away to charity.

But today, we're gonna

make some moves because we got Andre Berto in the house.

So, if you can, Mr.

Andre Berto, give us a quick two-minute bio, so we get straight to the money.

Me?

Yeah, hell yeah.

Oh, yo, what's going on?

It's your boy, Andre Berto.

We are here in the building.

A 2004 Olympian, two-time boxing world champion, and I've been smacking people for a very long time.

That's pretty much about you.

You boxing from a kid?

Yes, yes, yes, man.

I was a trouble kid growing up, man.

You know, my parents, they were immigrant parents from Haiti.

So they were working all the time.

So they just gave us a lot of time to be outside and get in trouble.

And for some reason, somehow,

you know, I was just a very aggressive kid.

You know what I'm saying?

Very aggressive kid.

And I just didn't take any type of shit at all.

So,

you know, so I used to put my hands on a lot of kids growing up.

And, you know, it got to a point, man, got to a point.

My teachers,

you know, I used to call my parents all the time like, this, you got to do so much.

Did it again?

Yeah, man, you got to do something with this kid, man.

He has a lot of energy.

He has a lot of shit to him.

You guys need to take him somewhere progressive so he can let a lot of this energy out of my dad.

You know, he was an MMA fighter.

So,

you know, so he trained in a lot of different, you know what I mean, spaces and disciplines, and he just started taking me to the boxing gym with him.

And ever since then, man, just fell in love with it.

So, on the make money side of the podcast,

at what point can a boxer make money?

Because the first one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight years, it's kind of hard to make money, right?

You're just living off of sponsor money, but boxing is expensive.

You gotta get trainers and coaches and food and supplements and gym time.

Like, there's a lot of money that goes into it.

How do you make money?

Um, I mean, me myself, I was, you know, I was a little bit, you know, fortunate as a professional.

I'm not going to say fortunate because I put in a lot of work, right?

You know, just coming from the amateurs.

You know, I went to the Olympics in 2004, so turning pro, I had a lot of, I have a lot of, I had a lot of eyes on them, a lot of big promoters, a lot of big managers.

You know, but a lot of kids, man, they're not as fortunate and they want to turn pro or they want to box just in general.

You know, so I mean, so as an amateur, I had to do, like I said, I had to work.

I had to, you know, because I was more in yards.

we had car washes we did everything we could just to get a dollar just to move around and go to these you know I mean local tournaments just to be known just to be heard and um you didn't even have social media back then they didn't even have social media back then so you had a smartphone to those poor that's what I'm saying so I had to iPhone you know so I had to make a point every time I went to a tournament my name

my name is Andre Burto y'all gonna see me yeah I went in that thing just had to really really really make sure my presence was known every time so you know you know like you said we have social media.

So the people

I had to go out there and knock out.

Everybody else had to go out there and talk.

And that shit spread like wildfire, man.

It's more like wildfire.

So when you go from amateur to provide an agent, can people do it on their own?

What has to happen?

Yeah, people can do it on their own.

You know, but you're going to be playing a long game at that point.

I mean, like boxing does have a union, so you really can turn pro if you want to.

But most likely, you're going to be fighting it properly, like, local bars, fighting for 200 bucks.

You know, so it's great to find you a great established manager

who has plugs, you know, when it comes to all about the big

networks.

There's only like a half a dozen main guys in boxing still, like decades later, you got the Bob Aaron over here.

Yeah.

Oscar De La Joya.

Like there's main characters that are like.

Yeah, main characters.

You got the Bob Aaron's the top rank.

You got Golden Boy.

You got PBC with Al Heyman.

now you guys got guys like Eddie Hearn over at the zone yeah those are probably like the main four to five you know I mean like top guys now but now

you guys have you know Turkey alasheik over there in Saudi Arabia you know

he is paying

over paying the big bread to get all the kids over man and and like I said he paid his way to get into the game

and you know he's Like I said, he got a chance just to shake it up within the last few months, within the last year.

And

I mean I got I mean I say right now he's the man inboxing right now but I think he's bringing in as you can see my man Dana White as well so yeah I mean so I'm looking forward to see what they're gonna do

well things are different now there is social media yes but there is tens of thousands hundreds of thousands maybe even million boxers around the planet yeah only a certain amount of thousands that are actually good and can actually go for it what can you do to stand out if you're actually good I'm not saying for the bad ones

you actually have a chance right you're you're ten and you're 10 and 3 you got a shot at going

how can you stand out from all the other 10 and 3 boxers man just right now just like you said like we have social media now you guys need to utilize it yeah you see a guy like uh like ryan go see exactly you know like i said all of us had to go through damages to go to the olympics and blah blah blah but you know i mean just try to use all these different things to be heard but you see a guy like ryan he's good

But he really speed tracked his situation with social media.

So I tell a lot of, I mean, I tell all these young guys now, man, if you're good, if you're saying you're as good as you are,

continue to train, fight, but you need to document everything.

Document everything.

Put it out there.

Let these people see who you are.

You know, pick up that phone and make sure to talk to

let these people understand your story and continue showing these guys that you're knocking everybody out of your training heart.

You need to use social media.

You have anything like to your benefit.

Because ultimately, boxing is a show.

Of course it is.

That's

why the weigh-ins happen, right?

That's why the shit talking happens.

That's a fact.

That's how you sell tickets and pay for that.

You sell tickets, man.

You have all that old school shit, just sitting back, letting the promoter do it.

Nah, it's all over.

Go out there, promote yourself.

I mean, train hard, continue to post, continue to document.

You know what I mean?

Knock these guys out, continue to post, continue to document.

You're going to have your own.

You know what I mean?

That press conference in your room.

You can have your own.

Promote yourself, train hard, and go out there and make it happen.

That shit's going to fly.

So, quick non-money question, the mental game.

Yes.

Speaking of Ryan Garcia,

both those fights seemed like he lost before he walked in.

Yeah.

He's a dear friend of mine, but it feels like he's got the skills to beat both those guys, except, well, not all the time, but let's say out of 100 times, he could beat them some of the time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But in those situations, he couldn't.

And something was going on in his mind.

Like,

when he went down with that kidney shot, it looked like...

At the eight clock, he stood right up.

Like, he could have actually stood up.

He could have stood up.

He's like, ah, I don't know.

I don't know if I want no borders.

You know what I mean?

You know what I mean?

So, that's one thing about it, man.

This fight game is so mental.

It's so mental.

That's one great thing about this event tonight that I'm going to about a mental health aspect of boxing because you have

some of your highest highs in life, and you have some of your lowest lows, you know, when it comes to this fight game.

Just like you said, about you know, I mean, like Ryan Garcia, you know, he just went, well, he just had another loss.

So,

you know, I mean, I'm going to be looking forward to see how he's going to come back mentally now.

You know, physically he has the skills.

For sure.

A lot of guys, a lot of guys.

I mean, I even went through it myself after my first loss.

Of course, I still had the skill, but mentally, do I still have the confidence walking there and do it again?

I've seen it happen over and over and over again to a lot of the greatest fighters.

Ronda Rousey.

Ronda Rousey.

You know.

Yeah, I mean, Mike Tyson went through it as well.

She was an 11-to-1 favorite against Holly Holm.

Yep.

But people forgot Holly Holm was like a seven-time boxing champion.

That's That's a fact.

That's a fact.

When she lost that fight, that was it for Holly.

Sorry, that was it for Rhonda.

And that was it.

She was a movie star after that.

And just walking into the next fight, I could literally see it on her face.

She was trying to blind it out and try to walk in there, focus.

But like I said, I went through it myself, so I got a chance to really see her demeanor coming into that ring.

And I was like, oh, shit, man, it's going to happen.

It's like you're walking back into a nightmare.

If you're not getting your mind right, it seems like you're walking back into that same nightmare that ruined your life the last time.

So it's definitely a mistake.

You want to get out of there.

You just want to get out of there.

You know what I mean?

So

it's a wild ride.

Can anybody beat Devin Haney right now?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, as you can see, even

last fight with Devin Haney,

he went through a situation with Ryan.

He lost to Ryan.

Very embarrassing time.

You know, he got a chance to see how he was on top of the world.

He got embarrassed by Ryan Garcia in front of the world.

And he had to sit out for a year to deal with that in his house alone.

Now all these people that praised you, now just talking all the shit, talking to you crazy, saying you're a bum and making memes and all that shit.

Social media just made it worse.

Of course.

You know what I mean?

Memes everywhere.

And like I said, just me just being a fighter now for like 20, 21 years, I wanted to see how he was going to come back, you know, mentally.

I mean, it didn't matter to me

how hard he trained, the pictures that he took looking like like he was in shape.

I wanted to see how he was going to react once he walked back into that same squirrel circle where he got embarrassed the last time.

And, you know, he showed up, but a lot of people said, okay, you know, he fought, the fight was boring.

It looked like he had like some type of PTSD.

He was fighting very,

you know what I mean, like very skittish.

You know, I think he just wanted just to get that under his belt.

And, you know,

I mean, just to come back for a win and process it and,

you know, just move on.

So we're going to see how he's going to continue to move forward.

So it's a tough guy.

So we got a big fight coming up with Canelo and Crawford.

Yes, sir.

Really big.

What are your thoughts?

Man.

Man,

it's tough.

It's a tough one.

Niggas Terrence Crawford, I mean, I mean, I love both guys.

But Terrence Crawford is doing something very extreme.

And I don't think people realize how tough that is to jump up two to three weight classes to fight a guy um you know he's daring to be great um it's a lot of money on the line so of course that you know i mean they added yeah to the fire and why he wanted to do it but um

i mean it'll be great it'll be amazing if he's able to go in there and have the skills that he needs to be Canelo, which everybody believes that he does.

But like I said, Canelo fights at 168.

he's been there for the last I don't know five I mean four or five to six years he's nice he's settled he's strong at that weight class now I think it's gonna be a complete different feel than what Terrence is used to now we have to wait and see you know once he gets hit with one of those shots you know by Canelo how his body's gonna react That's gonna be the question.

That's gonna be the main thing.

If he's able to withstand it, okay, we got us a fight.

If he's not, it's gonna look ugly.

right?

Yeah, so also on the make money side, there is one in particular character that helped make boxing famous again.

Yeah, that has a ton of drama, shit, shit talking.

All the time, and

but he's brought in hundreds of millions of views, yes, sir, sold out arenas and stadiums, yes, sir, sold out pay-per-views and broke records.

Like, what are your thoughts on Jake Paul and the concept of influencers coming into boxing?

Jake Paul,

my guy, you know, good friends with Jake.

I think it's great for the sport, man.

I think it's great for the sport.

It's definitely, you know, like I said, it's definitely put a lot more eyes on the sport, you know, when it comes to just like casual fans.

And a lot of people that didn't,

that wasn't really into boxing.

Especially the younger demographic.

Of course, they're like younger demographics.

But one thing I do respect about Jake is

is he's taking it serious.

Right.

He's really training.

He's really training.

He really put a real team around him.

He's going through real training camps i know a lot of people in this team you know he's hired the best of the best with inboxing to train him and work with them you know i mean just like all the way across the board so that's one thing do i love about drake um you know but like i said this is a tough game this is a game that you really have to put in a lot of years uh to really try to you know i'm gonna try your best to try to master it um i know he's trying to fast track it sure

but

you know but with this shit i don't think you can really fast

You know what I mean?

He's doing a great job.

I said, marketing himself and fighting the type of guys he's fighting to continue to build that, you know what I mean, that interest for him as well.

And he's generating a shitload of money.

But

when he really gets in there with some real fighters,

we may see a big difference.

I mean, the only real boxer that he fought was

Tommy Fury.

Neither one of them really did anything that exactly.

And, you know, like, to be honest, you know when it comes to the boxing you know fraternity we don't really

really see Tommy as a real boxer but he does have you know he has skills and he beat Jake you know so

you know so we're gonna see man I think like I said just overall I think it's great for the sport Jake's fighting on the 28th again

he's fighting against what's name Chavez Jr.

which he's another guy that us within the fighting community yeah you know whatever does Jake need to fight

Fight Canela, but that shouldn't happen, right?

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I heard it was going to happen, though.

I didn't hear about that?

Yeah, I heard about it, but I can't see how.

I mean, he's bringing the money.

I mean,

bringing the money.

He's making the money this time.

I mean, shit, I was on, talking about even me, I was caught off guard with it, man.

They almost really made the fight happen.

Like this, like the papers were signed.

Okay, if that fight happens.

I know.

I mean,

again, I love Jake, but on what point does he beat beat Canelo up?

Nah, damn.

Not aver.

Nah, not at all.

No.

Ever.

Ever.

You know, Jake's my grandfather.

For sure, of course.

But that's not happening.

That's not happening.

Well, I have a question.

Four years from now, and he does 20 more fights.

Can he fight Canel?

Or does that not matter because Canelo has done it for 20 years, 30 years?

Yeah, I mean,

I think...

Like I said, I've been a Brown, you know, I mean, a boxer for a very long time.

You can see, you can see if somebody has the stuff to compete on that type of level but at the same time like I said he's still growing in the sport maybe four or five years his skills may advance in a way that

I mean that we can sit back and say okay you know maybe but right now no

so you you were the last one to ever actually professionally fight with Flay Mayweather yep flight number 50.

Logan went in there and that's a humongous size difference.

A huge.

Some humongous size difference.

Logan's a big boy.

Do you think that Mayweather ever actually fights Jake?

Yeah, he could.

I mean,

at this point in the game, Jake has came in.

Jake has shown people that he can generate a lot of money.

So, at that point, I mean, I believe he can fight anybody.

I mean, it doesn't matter if...

if the true hardcore boxing fans might respect it,

but it's entertainment.

Especially right now, it's entertainment.

He got a chance to show you that, you know, with the whole Mike Tyson.

Mike Tyson.

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, everybody just thought it was crazy.

It's bullshit.

But I was at that fight.

That fucking stadium was packed.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, they had like six billion views on

Netflix, so it doesn't matter.

At this point, a lot of this shit now in boxing is entertainment.

So he's able to do whatever he wants.

All right, so we talked a lot about boxers making money, fame, etc.

Now let's say you've made the money, right?

You fight for Mayweather, it's time to retire.

There's a lot of options you could do, you know, hosting on boxing shows, you can build gyms, you can build supplement companies.

How do you take the next chapter once you've retired from the sport?

You know, it's one thing about it, man.

I think it's, I mean, it's extremely hard.

You know what I mean?

Just me just being in the space and just me just really, you know, kind of stepping away

to just focus more on business.

And

just even for somebody like myself that I've always had a great network of huge, you know what I I mean just I'm just like some of everybody you know to a point I've sat and masterminds I've learned so much about you know just overall just business but it's still a transition that can be pretty tough

like when you're at the events what percentage wants to jump in the ring all the time all the time and you know it got there I mean it got to a point I kind of got tired of a little bit because every time I went to every event you know everybody just wanted to talk to me about boxing right because you still look fresh you still look like you're ready to go go.

Exactly.

You know what I mean?

But it gets to a point.

It gets to a point that, okay, cool.

You know, I need to just have one win outside of the ring,

business-wise, so I can start having some different conversations.

And

that's what I've been at, you know, for some time.

And I had a great conversation with my boy Shaq.

You know, he said the same thing.

He's like, man, you know what?

I hate when people talk to me about basketball.

I want people to respect me for my business sense.

Now, when you come to speak to me, yeah, I did that shit way back then.

But talk about

all the companies I own.

Talk about this, talk about this.

I want to be able to have those different type of conversations.

So I think that's a different type of source of respect.

I already have all the belts on the wall.

I already have all the titles.

Not too many people can make that transition

and jump in and be respected.

So most times when people retire from any sport, or retire from acting or retire from anything, they kind of fade away into oblivion, right?

That's a fact.

how do you stay so relevant how do you stay out there

um

you know for me man i think

you know i've always been you know i love media you know just like you say um yeah i love media um i have a great yummy network of great friends that are heavy in a lot of different uh you know i mean spaces i was never one of those guys that

that that only thought of himself as a fighter.

I'm a boxer.

You don't need to talk to me.

You're not talking about boxing or training or coming to a fight.

You know what I mean?

I was always one of those guys like, okay, cool.

You know what I mean?

I want to dive into this.

I want to talk about this.

I want to jump into this business.

I want people to see me and see all the different, you know what I mean?

All the different sizes and layers of me and all different aspects.

So I think it's really been the main thing.

It's really kind of been keeping me

relevant in this long and being able to continue to speak.

Because a lot of these fighters, a lot of these athletes, period, they think that we're just dumb brutes and we don't know shit know, outside the sport.

A lot of these guys don't talk.

They don't get on off.

I mean, I mean, they don't get on social media and actually talk and let people, you know, let people in and know who they are.

Like I say, just as people.

I think that's a big flaw, but it's always been one of my big, big benefits.

Yeah, the professional speaker athletes are the wealthiest in the game.

When you think about Magic Johnson, billionaire.

Shaquille O'Neal, billionaire.

A-Rod has 19,000 apartments.

Crazy.

Crazy.

These are legends from sports, but they transition to becoming professional speakers and investors into companies.

So when you get all these different options, because you know so many people, you can invest in cryptocurrency, the stock market, private businesses,

real estate.

How do you pick when you're bombarded with so many different options?

Ah, man.

I mean, you got to sit back and study up.

You got to be able to learn again.

You know, I think that's one thing too, man.

A lot of, you know, a lot of great

athletes, they do not feel like they should go back and be students.

And I believe that you should.

know especially outside the game you need to you know put yourself in a space to humble yourself enough to be a student again and a lot of us don't you know I mean we put a lot of work in for a lot of years we've been respected and always been seen at a certain level so how do you tell a guy with all this money and all of this fame and success to try to humble himself

I mean try to listen to every time that's something else or sit down in the seat you know what I mean like at a mastermind and try to learn something else you understand what what I'm saying?

And a lot of guys, you know, even though, you know, outside of the game, if they haven't, you know what I mean, like made the right decisions, you know what I mean?

And just knowing that they need to do something, they're not humble enough to sit back and try to be a student again and learn again.

You know, the video has always been a downfall.

The video I posted a few hours ago was that.

I said, even though I speak at 100 events a year, Afterwards, I sit front row and listen to them.

Because there's Ed Milette.

There you go.

I want to learn from them.

There you go.

Even though I book these guys, I'm friends with these guys, I sit front row and listen to them because I can then help the people that are coming to my mastermind.

That's a fact.

They're coaching with me.

I'm learning from them.

I want to know things in real time.

I'm listening.

I'm studying all the time.

That's a fact.

I mean, I mean, just like you, like you've, I mean, like I said, like you've seen in real time with me.

You know, I'm sitting at these masterminds.

I'll be there by myself.

Right.

And people are around me, they're taking pictures.

They want to sign on.

I'm like, all right, thanks.

Let me sit down.

You know what I'm saying?

I think that's the great thing

about me is the fact that I've always want to learn.

I've always been a sponge.

I've always been sponge.

And

like I say, that transition.

I want to be

like a strong example of that transition.

I wish more athletes were doing this.

Yeah, yeah, for sure, man.

But like I said,

they'll see it.

Don't say I want to save these clips for later on when I make a billion.

And, you know what I mean, sitting with Dan and really talking about this shit.

So on the charity side,

why do you think it's important that athletes have some type of charity component for their communities or for their life?

You know, I really think,

you know, when it comes down to it,

and you know, like the whole sports aspect and the fact that you've been chosen, you've been blessed to be part of this small percentage of people,

this small percentage of people

to compete at such a high level

and to be, you know, looked at and admired at such a high level.

Me myself,

I don't believe that all of that

is just for you.

I believe that

you've been exalted to a point to give and spread it to everybody else as well.

You know what I mean?

I think you need to be able to find something that's a little bit

greater than yourself.

to really motivate you and to put those good

jujus out to the world as well.

God has blessed you to be, I mean, at a really,

I mean, at an amazing point in your life, you should always give.

You should always give.

That's the way I've always looked at it.

So there's one question that I ask on every single episode, and I've never gotten the same answer before.

What's that?

Andre Birdo, you end up making a billion dollars

on that next company, whether it's a supplement company, a chain of gyms.

All these investments start to happen.

Billion dollars.

But unfortunately, at some point you pass away

what percentage of the billion dollars do you leave to those three kids

ain't gonna leave nothing

i'm rich yeah i'm rich ain't i rich they gotta work for it uh i don't need two degrees to get money from these yeah man i mean shit i don't know man i don't think i've

I got to that point yet.

I mean, I understand what everybody's saying.

You know.

I've heard zero, I've heard 100%.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Uh, you know, I'm not sure yet.

I'm not sure.

I have to, I have to, I have to still, you know, reload at that question because, you know, like on one hand, I want my kids to work for everything that they get.

Um, you know, but then again, I want to be able to leave,

like they said, like in the Bible, like I said, a good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children.

I want to be able to leave them something.

So, so, with that being said, I may leave a good portion, say 50 or maybe 60 percent but I'm going to put together such

extensive and a crazy trust oh yeah you know what I mean trust in place with requirements to be able to unlock this shit and if you're able to do it shit it's yours

you know what I'm saying I want to I want to put them through the gauntlet you know what I'm saying so by the time they get this thing man they're just going to be transformed to completely different people and once they get it you know they'll know how to do it all right we know you got to get to work you got to host this mental health event for people yes sir downstairs where can people find you across social media across social media my name at andre berto everywhere on instagram on twitter on

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