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Hello, and welcome to the Rest is Politics U.S. with me, Katy Kay.
And me, Anthony Scaramucci. Happy Christmas season to everybody.
Happy Christmas to everybody. Some say Merry Christmas.

It's a great time of the year.

One of my favorite times of the year, Katty.

But the year is coming to an end.

And with that, we have the Rest is Politics U.S. Awards, Caddy.
Who's the judge on this? Were you the judge on this or was I the judge?

By the way, since I'm not getting an award, I have nobody to thank. But if I were thanking people, I would like to thank Fiona and Callum and India

and my family. A big shout out to all of my family members.
Fairly soon the music's going to start playing because you're not actually up for any of these awards.

Okay, we are going to do the rest is politics, U.S. awards.
It's a bit like the Oscars of politics.

So settle in with your turkey leftovers, pour another mug of something warm and join us as we break down the year that was. Let's get started with who was the best performing politician of this year.

Antony Scaramucci, who is your candidate? It's got to be Zoran Mandani. You don't like Zoran Mandani.
What are you saying? He's the best politician? I don't like the socialist policies.

You were so rude about him in the beginning. This guy has performed, Caddy.
He's an incredibly hard worker. He's got great charisma.
He understood how to control the social media.

Dare I say Trumpian-like. No surprise if you really understand the two of them, why they got along, because Trump likes winning, and this kid is a winner.
Again, whether you like his policies or not.

I think he is the most formidable and therefore the best politician of 2025. Are you in agreement with me on that?

God, I'm going to have to be in agreement. I promise you we're not going to be in agreement through this whole thing.

It's hard to think of somebody who's come from literally nowhere from being a state

assemblyman. Wasn't he a state assemblyman? I don't even know what a state assemblyman really does.

But anyway, from having a staff of six people to a year later being elected mayor of New York City and being fated by Donald Trump in the White House.

I was hesitant about this one because it's, first of all, because it sounds like it's kind of a cliche. And everybody's talking about Zoro and Mamdani.
I had my kids home for Thanksgiving.

They were all gushing about Zoro and Mamdani. But then my son, Felix, showed me the video of Zora Mamdani being interviewed by Adam Friedland.
Have you heard the Adam Friedland show?

Do you know that, Anthony? Huge big show on the left. Big podcast show.
Not as big as you, obviously, but he's kind of a famous guy. Mamdani was really good.

I mean, he was both natural, accessible, but managed in this very sort of loosey-goosey format where it's all quite personal and funny to keep back. He just keeps back on that affordability message.

I don't know if he's replicable around the country, but I would say yes. Okay, so we are two judges, one candidate, Zoran Mamdani, 10 points, gets best politician of the year.
What about worse?

What about worse politician, Caddy? We have an award for that. Who's your call on the worst politician? I am going to go with Pete Hegseth, who has not had a very good year.

Started out in the confirmation hearings with a whole load of information that started coming out about his previous relationships, his drinking, his inappropriate behavior with women.

That was a struggle to get him through the confirmation process.

You spoke to one of the senators who didn't want to confirm him, but ended up doing so, even though a girlfriend had come forward saying that he had been abusive towards her.

So the senators never liked him. They held their noses.
They did what Donald Trump wanted. He gets confirmed.

Then in the spring, we have the whole WhatsApp gate where he includes a member of the press in a WhatsApp text group about operations in Yemen that were classified, very blackmark against him.

Then I think actually even more egregious, he calls all of the generals in the autumn to Washington, D.C., summons them from their frontline positions around the world for the very urgent message of being told they need to do more push-ups and call him the Secretary of War.

He got zero applause for that, by the way. And then we end the year with him sending out memes of turtle cartoon figures, Franklin the Turtle cartoon, bazooka-ing narco-traffickers.

So I think he's had a pretty bad year. I'm actually kind of amazed that he has made it to the end of the year.
I've got a couple of runners-ups.

I think Pete Hegset does deserve it, but I want to talk about runners-up. I mean, the first runner-up for me are the politicians of the silent generation.

Okay, those are people born between 1928 and 1945. They're the precursors of the baby boomers.
This would be people like Joe Biden, completely fallen off the radar screen. But what about Nancy Pelosi?

She's 85 years old. These people want to hold on forever.
I'm not going to hear about Nancy Pelosi because she said she's going to step down. Yes, she stayed too long.
She's too old.

But she has actually said she's pulling back from politics. Okay, but the silent generation to me has been a big failing generation.

and they're now clinging to power still, finally being forced out of power.

Our production team brought up Andrew Cuomo, and of course they put in brackets, sorry, mooch, but you got to be you got to be honest about Andrew. Andrew was out

there in a lackluster campaign, Caddy. He was part of the baby boomer generation that failed here, outspends the Ramandami by about $13 million.

And he couldn't make up the distance. And by the way, just to remind people, if you took Andrew's polling data, added it to Curtis Sleewa's polling data,

Mayor-elect Mondani outmatched both of those. So, I mean, there's some pretty bad performances.
No, that was good of you to admit your

own. And how much money did you spend on that campaign, Anthony? Let's just put it.
It was north of $100,000. We'll leave it there.
So that was a really good

investment that you made. Can we add one more group to this group? Because this group, I feel like we could do a whole episode on this group.
All of those

senators

who have known better

during the confirmation hearings particularly for the cabinet but held their tongue in order to please donald trump and told themselves that their candidates nominees would be better for the cabinet offices than they actually turned out to be

Not a lot of profiles in courage at the moment in U.S. politics.
Okay,

our award for speech of the year goes to. You know, I mean, look, there's a couple of different nominees.
Okay, let me let me go over the nominees. I'll tell you my selection.
Then you pick yours.

So the nominees are the J.D. Vance speech in Munich, where he excoriated the European leaders, quite pedantic, and just talked about the U.S.

now view of national security, which is we're perfectly happy to leave Europe alone. Corey Booker's longest speech, which was 25 hours and 5 minutes and 59 seconds.

That's not my favorite because because it did absolutely nothing, Caddy. The Stephen Miller speech at Charlie Kirk's funeral, where he was channeling, I think, Goebbels and Himmler.

That was a pretty fascinating speech. And then what about every speech that Curtis Liwa gave during the New York mayor debates, which was astonishingly dumb and unproductive?

So I'm going to use the J.D. Vance speech because

who knows what's going to happen to J.D. Vance? I still predict his demise.
But as we enter 2026, I think his power is rising right now.

And I think his speech was fairly definitional about what is going on with America and Europe. So

what say you of those? Okay, I'm going to add a nominee of my own, actually. I'm not going to go with any of those.
It would have to be, of your list, it would have to be J.D. Vance

and the Munich speech because Europe has been reeling it from it ever since, but it achieved something, which is that it put Europe on notice, that America was not going to be responsible for Europe's security anymore, and they needed to start moving fast.

And that was the moment that you started seeing the Germans have a serious debate about rearmament and how to finance the rearming of Europe. So I think actually it was a very important speech.

I'm going to go with Erika Kirk's speech at her husband's memorial service, where she broke with the president and she broke with some of the MAGA hardliners and she summoned grace and forgiveness.

And that line of hers, the answer to hate is not more hate, it is love and always love, was a brilliant line and so heartfelt.

And her forgiveness of the person who killed her husband was also an extraordinary act of political courage and political humanity and empathy and grace in a time when we really don't see very much of that.

So I think Erika Kirk's speech, not just because it was so brave and so heartfelt, but also for what it told us politics politics could be in this country.

And what I think actually just life could be in this country and human relations could be in this country. It said a lot.
So I'm going to go with that one. Okay.

Most underdiscussed, underappreciated moment of the year. Antony Scaramucci, which is your most underdiscussed, underappreciated moment of the year.
What do you think?

So, Caddy, the most under discussed and underappreciated moment of the year is actually Donald Trump's health. You say, oh, we've discussed it.
We've discussed it. We really haven't discussed it.

Okay. He's wobbling.
He showed an unsteady gait in August when he was with Vladimir Putin. There's a scene where he's walking down the corridor there.

It leads out of the Oval Office with his grandson. He's wobbling again.
Okay, that's a recent one this past.

November, right after the Thanksgiving holiday. He's had several brain scans.

Again, I'm just speculating with you, but a lot of the times if you've had an aneurysm or stroke, something's gone on with the brain, they go back and forth on the brain scans.

Nothing's been released related to this. And again, the president is deserving of his privacy related to his health, but he's showing signs of age-related deterioration.

Acknowledged by them are the ankle swelling, which could be cardiovascular. or could just be leaky valves in his veins and his legs.

I'm just suggesting that there's something afoot that could play itself out in 2026.

And even though it's been, quote-unquote, discussed, I think it's underappreciated. I think it's underdiscussed, frankly.
He's done a good job of sweeping it under the rug.

Oh my God, what did you think of that New York Times article about Donald Trump's health and frailty and lack of stamina?

The one I think you're referring to that came out just after Thanksgiving weekend. That was like the New York Times' Thanksgiving gift.
In this season of goodwill and harmony, Mr. President.

The headline you are least going to like blazoned across the paper of record from the city that you love,

all about how his stamina is failing. And they ran this video.
I actually, I thought the video was a little cruel of him sitting in one meeting and his eyes start to shut.

I mean, you know, I've sat in meetings and my eyes have started to shut and he probably doesn't get enough sleep anyway, but it was, it was pretty brutal.

For me, I think, and again, I'm not wishing the president poorly. I know people think, well, I dislike him, and so therefore I wish him poor health.
I don't.

I don't wish anybody poor health, but I will say this, something is afoot there. It's been underdiscussed and underappreciated.

So my candidate for most underdiscussed, underappreciated moment of the year, I thought of the Cyril Ramaposa meeting with Trump in the Oval Office, where he accuses the South African government of committing genocide against its white population, because then that led to what we have at the moment, which is effectively the United States canceling all asylum applications except for white Afrikaners who the president keeps coming back to as being this beleaguered group who are under attack and need to have asylum in the United States.

So that's kind of odd in and of itself. But that was a bit of a weird moment.

But actually, I think one of the most underappreciated moments of the year, because it was happening at a time when so much was happening that it was hard to focus on it, was in March when Elon Musk went up to Wisconsin to weigh in on on the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, and he bounced on stage wearing that Wisconsin wedge of cheese hat, that foam bright orange cheese hat.

And he starts handing out million-dollar checks. And he tells the people in the audience that, look, this is so important.
I've even bothered to come up here. Effectively, I can't.

It's words to that effect. You're so lucky that I managed to come.
Look, it wouldn't be if somebody like me has come here, if I have come here, it must be important. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here.

And he sort of slightly belittles at them. And anyway, the Wisconsin race does not go his way.
And that is the sort of nail in the coffin for Elon Musk's supremacy.

And the reason I think it's such an unappreciated moment is because we've slightly stopped talking about Doge. But Doge, which dominated our lives, right?

This podcast for the first few episodes of this year after the inauguration has died an ignominious... premature death.
It was meant to end next summer. It's already been folded.

All of the Doge acolytes are out of town. There are big questions about how much money it actually saved, if any at all.
And it's sort of slunk out of town with its tail between its legs.

And I think that

that moment when he weighs in on the Wisconsin race and looks kind of dorky with this cheese head. I'm sorry, people from Wisconsin.

I know you love those cheese heads, but I am never ever going to wear one. He jumps up on the stage with the cheese head on.

I think that is the beginning of the end of Elon Musk's power over Washington, D.C., because it didn't work out for him. Have you ever worn one, by the way, a cheese head?

I can't confirm or deny that category. Oh, you have?

Is there evidence? Is there photographic evidence? I was friends with Scott Walker, the former governor of Wisconsin.

How did it go for you when you went on a date wearing a cheese head? I just want to know. Have you ever seen that film, The English Patient? I have.

Okay, you know when he dresses up in the Santa Claus outfit? Yes, I do, remember. And Ray Fienes and Kristen Scott Thomas are having a torrid affair in the glass.

There are certain things you should never do as a man. One is wear a cheese head and one is dress up in a Santa outfit.
It's duly noted.

When I have my Mickey Mouse ears on next time, I'll be thinking of that.

But Caddy, I want to be self-congratulatory. Not that you and I are deserving of any awards, but if we were, we did get the Doge thing right.

We both said that there is no way that that system known as Washington, that beast,

is going to tolerate Doche. It's just not going to happen.
It's a great idea, great business idea, but Washington does not run like a business. And they blew that to Smithereens.

And by the way, I think the reason why Trump has returned to the presidency, he's never run his businesses like businesses. He just doesn't.
He doesn't think like a businessman.

He thinks like a marketer and a ranconteur, and he thinks like a wave surfer of the current culture war. And that's what's going on now in our country.
And we just have to accept that.

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Okay, Caddy, we're back from the break.

I got to give my two cents in on the biggest political blowout of the year, which was totally unpredictable. I would have never gotten this right.

And that is Marjorie Taylor Greene's departure from the Congress and her riff with Trump. If you said to me on January 20th, 2025,

this woman was screaming liar and traitor and wearing Trump hats. Trump is right about everything, these red hats and cavorting around like a lunatic.

And then she flips the script and says, hey, I apologize for my rancor and I apologize for my political idiocy. Which doesn't say it that way, but I'm translating.

And then she disavows Trump and then leaves the Congress. before her term is up.
Nobody leaves Congress. They all go in.
They stay there forever.

And then you have to kind of carry them out on a gurney at the end of it. I know.
I thought that was kind of remarkable. The Musk-Trump one is pretty obvious.
We knew that was going to happen.

I think we called that right. The MAGA breakups are pretty good.
For biggest political blow-up, the fight between Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson. Nick Fuentes getting thrown in there.

Where does that leave J.D. Vance in this kind of stew of MAGA? I guess we could see that coming.
It came a little quicker than I thought it would.

You know, it's a bit like when you took Tito away from Yugoslavia and things started to disintegrate.

It feels like people are looking at the end of Trump and now MAGA is already eating itself up in a civil war to try and see who's going to be the inheritor of Trumpism.

I am going to go with, because I think it had the most impact around the world, a particular part of the world that I'm interested in. I'm going to go with Zelensky in the Oval Office.

When he came over here and he got ambushed by the vice president and then Donald Trump weighed in and he was accused of not thanking America and not having any cards to play.

And it all went incredibly bad. I mean, it was, I remember watching it at the time and it was excruciating to watch.
You and I are not confrontational people, Anthony, either of us.

We avoid that kind of scene like the plague. And I watched it and I thought, oh my God, I want to be anywhere else.
I could barely watch it. And I watched it several times afterwards.

And each time it makes my skin crawl. But of course, it had, I mean, it showed us how little J.D.

Vance has any inclination that America should lead in Europe or should be helping the Ukrainians, does not see that there's a rationale for helping the Ukrainians who are, after all, doing in a way the West's dirty work for them.

It's a Ukrainians who are dying and the Russian army that is being degraded and the Russian economy that is being degraded by the Ukrainians. But J.D.
Vance clearly doesn't feel that.

And it was a kind of dramatic moment of J.D. Vance asserting himself as vice president, slightly hijacking the conversation, but getting away with it.

It signalled, I think, just how much this administration doesn't like Europe, wants to get out of Ukraine.

And it was a moment that the world noticed and thought, wow, something very different is happening in America right now. You know, I mean,

it's a really good one, Caddy. I want to ask you the following question.
Does President Zelensky survive 2026?

That's a good question. For the first time, he's under pressure at home.
And there are conversations about whether he was a great wartime leader for the first three years.

I mean, listen, this guy is under a huge amount of pressure and has been ever since the war began. He must be exhausted.

And maybe it is time, I think the thinking in Ukraine now, if you look at the polls in Ukraine, particularly since that corruption scandal erupted in November, you saw a pretty quick shift in polls when it came to Zelensky's popularity, who has been massively popular in the country and are thinking that maybe it's time for another leader there.

So I think you're right. That's a good point.
He may not make it through 26. What do you think? I think it's a big issue.

I think if we're sitting here a year from now and he's still there, I will applaud him.

But the Trump administration is sided with the Russians. And right now, I don't see the backbone.

You know, my friend Adam Kissinger is out there banging symbols, telling European leaders, get it together. push back on Putin.
You've got the goods on him.

Your combined militaries are technologically superior to his and push him back. But the Europeans are going to be very reluctant to do that without the Americans.
And Trump is not there.

And whoever replaces Hexeth, I think I'll get to make a prediction here, which is, I think, apropos to your great reporting, is that Hexeth doesn't make it through 2026.

By the way, if Hexeth does make it, I want our producers to remind me so I can take a dunking for that, but I don't think Hexeth makes it.

And we're sitting here with an America that's still supporting Russia. I think it puts an enormous amount of pressure on Zelensky.
So I have it 75% that he goes.

If he stays, and I would like to see him stay, because I do applaud him, and I am a fan of his, but I think it's going to be very rough on him. Okay, surprise star of 2026.

Who is your surprise star of 2026? I was going to say Erica Kirk, but I already mentioned her in terms of that speech, and I think that was what the surprise breakout moment was for her.

Fiona, our producer, made a very interesting suggestion, which I've been kind of mulling over the last few days.

And that is Caroline Levitt, who I actually think has done an amazing job of defending the White House and defending the president at every single turn, even when it became tricky and she had to slightly tie herself in knots to do it.

She has never for a single day come out anything less than fighting.

And if you are a principal, you want a spokesperson who is going to go to the mat for you, whatever their own views are, that there's going to go to the mat for you every single time.

As members of the press, we can now count on Caroline Levitt to come out fighting, feisty, pushing back, calling us all idiots and fake news, but doing it in a way that every time makes it sound like she really believes it.

So let's give Caroline Levitt the surprise star of the year. Young? Very young.

Can I push back and say something really controversial, which will probably be upsetting to some of our viewers and listeners? No, never.

Nigel Farage. Wow, that's going to go down with Alistair and Rory very well.
No. They're going to be mad at me, but again, it's the same thing with a Zoran Mandami or a Donald Trump.
Nigel Farage,

it's mathematically possible that he could become... Am I making this up, Kathy? You're saying absolutely.

It's mathematically possible that he could become the prime minister. Okay.

It could either, if he forms a coalition, if you just look at the Ladbrooks voting, look at the polymarkets. I think he is the surprise star of the year.

And I'm not saying Aleister Aurora would be happy with that. And obviously, I'm an anti-populist because I don't think populism is actually serving the people that are supporting it.

I just think that's the irony of populism. But I have to look at it empirically and say that he's got to be up there, Caddy, on the list.

It's quite interesting, isn't it, that we start out with person of the year and we both said Zora and Momdani.

The other surprise star of the year, I think you could say, is Javier Millé, who, okay, he's been around for a while, but he had a good election run and he managed to get $20 billion out of the Americans.

Not a bad deal. And actually, the people we are pointing to, Caroline Levitt, Nigel Farage, Mamdani on the left, they're all populists.

So maybe it's just that the nature of populism with its communication style that is very direct, authentic, in your face, produces these figures who seem like stars.

Erica Kirk and Caroline Levitt both remind me a little bit of Sarah Palin. And when she spoke at the Republican National Convention up in St.

Paul in 2008, and we immediately thought a star is born because she had that same kind of slightly pugilistic manner about her.

These kinds of people are people that you notice, and that makes them look like stars. I want to move on to the political interview of the year.
There's a lot of different candidates for this.

Some could say that it's the Marjorie Taylor Greene CNN complete U-turn, but I don't see that one making it to the tippy top. The tippy top for me is the Nick Fuente's Tucker Carlson interview.

And I'm going to explain why I think this is so important because this is a bridge too far for so many people on the conservative right. And this caused a fissure in MAGA.

So Tucker's out there allowing Nick Fuentes to spew his anti-Semitic nonsense. Ben Shapiro, who we know is a mainstream conservative, but also an American Jew, goes crazy about this.

And the Trump world split in a number of different ways. And I'm going to argue this hurt Tucker Carlson.

It's actually changed the trajectory of his future because is he a journalist or is he a movement leader?

And one of the things you have to do if you're a movement leader is you have to form a coalition, Gaddy. You have to get people, again, hate Trump, like Trump.
He is a movement leader.

He was able to form a coalition of sparring people and disparate people. And And you are now watching, in my opinion, a destabilization of MAGA.

And I think it was represented by the Nick Fuentes Tucker Carlson interview. Yeah.
And of course, Tucker Carlson, very close to J.D. Vance.

A lot of questions about that relationship in the kind of context of that Nick Fuentes interview. I think I would probably go with that.

Ross Douthut at the New York Times on his podcast, Interesting Times, has done a lot of interesting interviews with conservative thought leaders this year. And I found all of those fascinating.

His interview with Amy Coney Barrett was really interesting on her views on jurisprudence. She has been a very interesting figure.

She is the figure who has, of course, this year, in a separate interview, said that she does not think that President Trump can run for a third term or that any president can run for a third term in office.

So I think that's worth a listen, going back and listening to her, both to her life story, which is fascinating, and why she has such a big family and what that means to her.

And there's a lot of personal stuff there, which I found interesting as well, but also about her legal views. Okay, wildest moment of the year.

Our award for the wildest moment of the year overall in a year in which there have been 500 gazillion wild moments. My, okay, this is a bit of an odd one, but it's hard to go.

You have to, you have to use a lot of memory when it comes to Donald Trump because so much happens that you forget things, and that's part of the intent of it. That's the flooding zone stuff.

But it's worth going back to the beginning just after inauguration when Doge came in and the White House shut down USAID. And I do think for me, that was really one of the wildest moments.

It felt like a hurricane had come through the city. Lots of people I knew of and knew personally had lost jobs because of that.
You had a ton of expertise.

You had massive ramifications around the world. That is still happening, by the way.

People in the aid world are saying the chilling effect of America withdrawing from international humanitarian aid has been extraordinary.

We know that people have died in countries in Africa, in Latin America, because of the pullback of USAID.

The lack of outrage, because everybody I think was in sort of shell shock, so much was happening at the time. And then by the time the impact became clear, it was too late for the outrage.

But the lack of outrage also surprised me. I do think that was one of the wildest moments of the year.
What is your wildest moment of the year, Anthony Scaramucci?

I don't know if it's appropriate for the podcast, but I think the wildest moment of the year are the allegations that are being made about Donald Trump in the Epstein emails. Okay.

And just the salaciousness of what was suggested in those emails is wild. And you know, and I know that saga is unfolding right now.
But I think that there's some stuff.

I mean, there's some mentioning of him and Bubba. I don't know who Bubba was.
but there's some wild stuff in there. I mean, these are insane allegations, even by Trump standards.

This could turn out to be a a political Chernobyl in 2026. How's that for a light touch way of saying this so that Fiona doesn't like delete everything?

Okay, finally, before we go, I think we should have an award for our personal highlight of the year. Anthony, you go ahead.
What was your personal highlight of the year? Well,

my personal highlight of the year wasn't political, but it was forcing Caddy Kaye, my great podcast partner, my better nine-tenths of this relationship, to open the window, to open the shade in her yacht as she was overlooking this beautiful vista in the Mediterranean.

Because knowing how British you are and how you try to pretend that you're not bougie, which I, of course, am full bougie,

I thought that was... the political highlight and that was my favorite part of the year that we shamed you into raising the blinds to show us the view.

My personal highlight of the year was when you were somewhere in the Caribbean recording the podcast with the sound of birdsong in the background and suddenly the fountain starts up in your incredibly bougie house that you have rented in the Caribbean.

And you have to call the maintenance guy, which I don't know, did we clip that out? I hope we didn't. You had to call the maintenance guy and say, please, can you come and turn off the fountain?

Which is not a line line you hear very often in political podcasts. I knew I made a mistake bringing up the yacht, but it was still my personal highlight.
It was worth it.

Okay, wait, I have another one. I have another one.
I have another one. There's so many.
Okay, another personal highlight of the year.

When you actually went and made your own cup of coffee because it was so early in the morning. You made me make the bed in a hotel room.
I mean, I mean, come on.

All right, keep going.

Oh, the time, the time you didn't show up because you overslept and I had to do a live stream for 30 minutes by myself, which I have to say,

the repartee was not what it quite could have been. What was I going to do? Play two different roles.
That was not that great.

My personal lowlight of the year is bringing up my personal highlight. I'll just leave it there.
It's been a great year. Happy Christmas, everybody.

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Anthony and I are getting personal with some Aunt Agonies. Is it Aunt Agonies, Anthony? It used to be called Agony Aunt, but I think we've changed the name to Ann Agony.
So I like Ant Agony.

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