The One Truth About Money That No One Teaches You In School

Speaker 1 I'm thinking back to a time when I had nothing. I was financially scarce.

Speaker 1 Emotionally, I acted like I had it all figured out, but emotionally, I was just kind of scared actually deep inside, but I didn't want to let anyone know this about me.

Speaker 1 And I projected an essence of kind of false confidence in the world.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 this was a time when I was just really unsure of myself because I didn't understand money. I didn't understand how to make it.
I didn't understand how to manage it.

Speaker 1 I didn't understand how to multiply it. And it seemed so far out of my reach.

Speaker 1 It just seemed like everyone who had money and who had built a successful career or business or had figured out how to turn their money into

Speaker 1 working for them instead of being in debt and struggling all day, living in stress. It just seemed like these people were so unattainable because I didn't understand any of it.

Speaker 1 And it was a a very confusing time for me. And in this episode, I sit down with Daniel Priestley to talk about the three mindset shifts that are going to unlock wealth and success for you.

Speaker 1 Something that is more scalable for you. So you don't have to live in stress and confusion and just be feeling uncertain about the future.
And it really does start with the mind.

Speaker 1 understanding your mindset. And so we go deeper into the life lessons beyond business, beyond making money, and what it truly means to live a successful, fulfilling life.

Speaker 1 Because now, almost 20 years later, after that time,

Speaker 1 so much has shifted and changed internally for me and mentally for me. Back then, I was driven to prove myself at all.
costs. I was driven to be the best in the world at what I could do.

Speaker 1 I wanted to be number one. I wanted to make sure I destroyed people in the business world.

Speaker 1 I was just like so driven by different things that caused a lot of insecurity and a lot lot of stress inside of me. And

Speaker 1 it doesn't mean I'm not driven still to succeed and accomplish my goals and my dreams and generate more wealth and all these different things. Yes, I'm still driven, but there's a lot more peace.

Speaker 1 And again, it starts with the mindset and how to unlock this mindset to go deeper.

Speaker 1 We also dive deep into what we hope to pass on to the next generation, not just money, but the values that are important, how to understand self-worth for yourself and the ability to thrive in a world that's changing fast.

Speaker 1 Talk about in the last 20 years. I remember 20 years ago

Speaker 1 being one of the first people to get Facebook when it was called the Facebook just for college kids. I remember being on the waiting list at our college, like it's coming in the next months.

Speaker 1 and us, everyone being excited as college students. That was 20 years ago.
So much is changing with how to navigate, understand

Speaker 1 social media, AI, the stock market, money management, world economics, all these different things. But what you should never

Speaker 1 pass up is the ability to go deeper on your values and learning how to master self-worth.

Speaker 1 No matter what's happening on the outside of you, it's always good to reflect and transform the inner world so you can navigate the uncertainties of the outer world and make conscious decisions with your money and with your wealth.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about the different life lessons that Daniel Priestley wants his kids to master that have nothing to do with money as well, and so much more that I share from my personal life and Daniel's.

Speaker 1 I'm very excited for this episode. I hope you enjoy it.
So let's go ahead and dive in.

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Speaker 1 What are the three things you want your kids to know that has nothing to do with money?

Speaker 1 Definitely health, right?

Speaker 4 The physical body.

Speaker 1 I overlooked.

Speaker 4 the value of health for a long time. Really?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I envied the fact that you got so into sport. And like, I was just into business that whole time.
And,

Speaker 4 you know, when you're younger, you just kind of think, oh yeah, I'll be fit forever and all that sort of stuff so like understanding the human body understanding health understanding a bit of psychology um

Speaker 4 uh so i definitely think it helped the the value of relationships and how to build relationships how to invest in relationships how to preserve them protect them how to mend them when they break

Speaker 4 um so like all of those relationship skills you know what i you know what i want to do I just want them to watch the 1700 episodes of School of Greatness.

Speaker 4 That would, I mean, actually, if you thought about it, if you just got rid of schooling and replaced it with the School of Greatness,

Speaker 4 that wouldn't actually be a bad thing.

Speaker 1 That's well, that's why I started it because I was, you know, I grew up very dyslexic. I was always in the bottom of my class.
I always felt insecure, dumb, not enough.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 going to school was like the hardest thing to do. Every day was just like, I don't want to be here because no matter how much I study or how hard I try, I'm failing.

Speaker 1 Homework, quizzes, tests, finals. It was just like every day felt like failure, but it wasn't an enjoyable failure where I'm learning and developing.

Speaker 4 It's a fish trying to walk down the street.

Speaker 1 Exactly. When I go into sports after class, it was like, okay, I'm failing every day,

Speaker 1 but I'm seeing the improvement. Like I'm learning and I'm getting better and I can see the growth.
I wasn't getting better in school. So it was just like, how do I get out of here?

Speaker 1 How do I wait till the clock hits 2.30 or whatever in the afternoon so I can be done? Because it's just making me feel less than.

Speaker 1 It's a confirmation that no matter how hard I try, everyone in this classroom is smarter than me, better than me,

Speaker 1 more talented than me, more resourceful than me. And it's just like, this is sucking the life out of me.

Speaker 4 Sadly, millions of kids are experiencing that right now because the contrast is becoming

Speaker 4 so much wider. The contrast of what's out there and what's available versus what they experience at school.
I mean, my kids aren't homeschooled. They're in normal schools.

Speaker 4 And they come home and and they go, like, this, you know, they struggle with it. And I struggle with it as a parent.

Speaker 1 Why have kids in school and not homeschool them?

Speaker 1 It's a real trick, isn't it?

Speaker 4 Because,

Speaker 1 you know, especially if you have the financial means and you have resources.

Speaker 4 There's some, look, there's something about the experience.

Speaker 4 They're not hating it to the degree that I pull them out, but there's something about the experience of being around a big group of their peers

Speaker 4 and that school, that shared school environment.

Speaker 1 But can't you get that from somewhere else? From

Speaker 1 classes, sports teams and music classes and tutoring and

Speaker 1 developing public speaking or whatever it is.

Speaker 4 The truth is I'm wrestling with that. I'm toying with that idea.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying it's a writer book.

Speaker 4 I went through a pretty rough schooling system. Like I did not go to great schools

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 like, you know, 40 children per teacher,

Speaker 4 there was no teaching assistant or any of that sort of stuff and we kind of you know ran uh feral across our teachers and all that sort of stuff um

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 and yet there was so much like there's not blaming teachers because no no

Speaker 4 and i wouldn't be able to manage 40 no they're within us they're within a system that that doesn't a lot of teachers really resonate with these messages

Speaker 4 Yeah, like me personally, I just

Speaker 4 did get a lot of value from just like the friendships I made this like the sports does have like a lot of sports do happen around the school.

Speaker 1 But you can still join sports teams, even if you're not in that school.

Speaker 4 Fortunately, my kids, their school is not, it's not horrific. It's pretty good.
Like it's it's it's

Speaker 4 it's not the ideal system that I would design from scratch today, but I'm lucky enough that our kids go to pretty good schools based on the traditional system.

Speaker 4 And also

Speaker 4 we do invest a lot. Like our kids go to coding camp, they go to jiu-jitsu, like all of those kind of things.
They're getting all of that.

Speaker 4 And when my kids come home and they say, oh, I didn't do so well on this test, I go, it's totally fine. It's just a test.
Like, it doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 1 And they go, oh, okay.

Speaker 4 I say, it's just one way of just, like, checking in to see whether you got it or not. It's not going to dictate anything about your future.

Speaker 4 You know, so we have a good dialogue going.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I am still wrestling with it. If my wife watches this podcast, maybe it'll spark the the call.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, isn't AI going to teach kids better than teachers?

Speaker 4 Our kids are taught by AI, so they have access to an AI tutor, and it's phenomenal, and it's wild. And it goes at the same speed that they want to go at,

Speaker 4 and it speeds up when they want to speed up, and it slows down when they want to slow down, and it can switch analogies, or it can switch examples.

Speaker 4 It's pretty wild, and it talks to them.

Speaker 1 I mean, the reason why I started the School of Greatness was because I feel like there were so many things that I didn't learn in school growing up that I learned later in life that were the real skills, the real tools, the real lessons I needed to learn.

Speaker 1 And I'm still learning and developing. And you said two of them, learning about health and learning about navigating relationships.
Relationships.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sure, maybe they teach some health in school or there's 15 minutes of recess.

Speaker 1 And sure, you're intertwining with other human beings,

Speaker 1 adults, figures, authority figures, and peers. But it's not teaching you how to manage relationships.

Speaker 1 Yeah, manage relationships or deal with heartbreak or deal with bullying or deal with your feelings and your emotions or how to give a speech in front of your peers.

Speaker 1 Like it doesn't teach these skills that I had to start learning in my mid to late 20s because I didn't learn any of them in school.

Speaker 1 Now, it doesn't mean I didn't learn some things in school and the interactions throughout the day and

Speaker 1 socializing. Sure, but can't you get that in other areas of life?

Speaker 4 I wonder if anyone who's homeschooling their kids gets their kids watching School of Greatness.

Speaker 1 I'm sure there are.

Speaker 4 I'd be curious to know if anyone has watched every single episode, too.

Speaker 1 There are people.

Speaker 1 People that tell me they have.

Speaker 1 People have told me they have. And it's a lot of content.

Speaker 4 We should have a mastermind just for those people. I would do it.
The people who have

Speaker 4 sat through that.

Speaker 1 I mean, the challenge is, how do you know if everyone has?

Speaker 1 But people will post like every episode on social media, and people that have found the podcast will go back to episode one and get all the way up to where we are now.

Speaker 1 And it's every week for 12 years

Speaker 1 three episodes a week for the last 10 years that's wild so it's putting out information from some of the what's that done what's that done to your head it's true what's it like to transform my life for like like because if you were an ai i literally feel have you seen don Quixote yeah we've seen the movie Don Quixote ages ago It's like this, you know, guy who gets sent to a prison for not doing a crime.

Speaker 1 Like, he didn't commit a crime. Oh, yeah.
He was sent to prison.

Speaker 1 And he's pretty much, he can't read, he can't write, he doesn't understand the world, he doesn't know math, but he's like a really good, kind soul, naive. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he's in prison for a crime he doesn't commit because he was naive, because he didn't have the skills or the resourceful enough to kind of stand up for himself, or people were taking advantage of him.

Speaker 1 And he just kind of gets sent in this prison for life.

Speaker 1 And one day, I don't know, seven years in, when he's about to take his own life, he hears a voice, and it's like another prisoner who's there for life trying to dig a tunnel to escape.

Speaker 1 And it's this old wise mentor who essentially says, you help me dig a tunnel to our freedom, and I'll teach you about life. I get chills thinking about it.
It's a beautiful movie. That's a good thing.

Speaker 1 But I mean, it's a book originally, but the movie is powerful. And

Speaker 1 he studies with the mentor for like a decade. While he's in the dirt,

Speaker 1 trapped in prison, setting himself physically free, he becomes spiritually, mentally, and emotionally free and physically free. He learns like swordsmanship.
He learns mathematics.

Speaker 1 He speaks seven languages.

Speaker 4 So this is you. This is you.

Speaker 1 You feel like tumbling out.

Speaker 1 I feel like, you know, I'm not as gifted as he became, but I feel like it has given me a wealth of information that is unlimited, that has created such a sense of inner freedom and inner power of resourcefulness that I wouldn't have had without going through this journey.

Speaker 1 Imagine sitting across someone like yourself 20 years ago, 10 years ago, when you didn't know what you were doing, you know, and sitting across Kobe Bryant and billionaires and therapists and health experts and learning from all of them.

Speaker 1 I'm curious for you.

Speaker 4 If you're at a dinner party and you're talking to people,

Speaker 4 you must have to bite your tongue a little bit because

Speaker 4 you've sat down with some of the world's top experts on every topic. It must be a very strange feeling to have

Speaker 4 a little bit about so much.

Speaker 1 I mean it's a superpower. It is a superpower.
But it's also,

Speaker 1 you know, I'm still the student. The reason I'm doing it 12 years in is because I have so much more to learn.
I don't feel like I've mastered something.

Speaker 1 I've maybe been able to get beyond certain limitations.

Speaker 4 You've become a high agency generalist.

Speaker 1 Exactly. And now it's like I need to keep evolving and keep learning new skills.

Speaker 4 Of the 1700, if you like, because thinking about my kids if there were three brackets that you said teach the kids about these three topics is health relationships and it's and

Speaker 1 really money mindset health relationships and the ability to manage money it's like money mindset and it's more because money is such a i would say more it's health relationships and mindset mindset which is evolved around purpose you know having a fulfilling life yep overcoming adversities dealing with challenges But money is such an important thing in the world because of how people live

Speaker 1 that my money interviews and episodes do so well.

Speaker 4 It's also a good way to test mindset because

Speaker 4 it's in the presence of money that

Speaker 4 our mindsets get revealed. When I had this mentor, John, one of the things he did to me that was really strange was he asked me the question, how much do you think is a lot of money?

Speaker 1 What did you say?

Speaker 4 I said a grand, a grand a week.

Speaker 4 so he said how much how much is a lot of money to earn you've got to remember this was 2000 and i said a grand a week i said there's no i remember the exact words i said there's not much you can't do on a grand a week right so that was my thing and he says to me dan you're going to be on my sales team you need to be making a hundred grand a year or i'm going to fire you um so he's

Speaker 1 yeah what is that two grand a week right it's like yeah so i had i had this kind of like weird

Speaker 4 look on my face and he said you you've got a problem with money he goes you're not going to make a hundred grand a year you're not going to succeed because you think 100 grand is so far out of your reach.

Speaker 4 You know, you think 50 grand is out of your reach. So, a hundred grand is like, you haven't even considered that.

Speaker 1 So, your mindset needs to shift around it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's like, He's like, Why don't you think you can do it? I'm like, Well, I'm only 19. He's like, We got to shift that.

Speaker 4 So, one thing he got me to do is I had to carry $2,000 in my pocket at all times. That's cool.
He said, you need to believe that two grand is just pocket money.

Speaker 1 So, I think that's a good like social experiment.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I had to carry this wad of cash in my pocket. Now, all my emotions came up.
So, carrying this two grand.

Speaker 1 If I lose it or what if I, yeah. What if I lose it? If someone steals it, what if someone steals it?

Speaker 4 What he asked me to do was to write down in my journal, what are all the emotions that come up around the money, carrying the money. So, by carrying the money, the emotions come up.

Speaker 4 So, I had stuff like, what if someone sees it and judges me? That's my money shit.

Speaker 4 He says,

Speaker 4 Yeah, being judged for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in America, it's like, cool. In Australia, it's like, what are you doing? Come back down to Earth.
Why have you got that?

Speaker 4 I had, what if someone steals it? So he said to me, you have a belief that if you had money, someone would attack you for it. You cause physical danger to you.

Speaker 4 I said,

Speaker 4 what if a girl sees it and then she thinks that I'm just like, she wants to date me and like has all these expectations of money?

Speaker 4 So then he's like, you feel that money would get in the way of having an authentic relationship, right? So

Speaker 4 I listed out all the things that came up as my fears, and then he translated that to, these are your core beliefs around money that have to change. And it was like, it was very transformational.

Speaker 1 See, if you didn't learn that, you maybe would have made a bunch of money one day, but probably sabotaged it. Totally would.
That's the whole reason I wrote Make Money Easy. Totally would.

Speaker 1 It's not about like investing or entrepreneurship. It's about the mindset and the beliefs we have around money.

Speaker 4 So I feel like it's so important to actually physically confront these things, like to come up against it. Like carrying money for me did it.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 1 So everyone needs to go carry a million dollars right now with them at all times. If that's pocket money.
You start to feel like, yeah, this is nothing, you know?

Speaker 4 Walk around with a briefcase.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 So yeah, it's that feeling of readjusting your thermostat around money was really powerful. So like psychology and money are so intertwined.
They're so linked.

Speaker 4 Like when you receive an amount of money that you feel is too much, you have guilt and shame come up. And you go, ooh, am I deserving of this? Do I need to give it away?

Speaker 4 Do I need to split it with people? Like, what do I need to do? Because like suddenly this money has hit my account.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 if you earn over 55,000 US dollars per year, you're in the top 1% of the planet.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Right? So it's like, oh, you know,

Speaker 4 maybe it's evil that I've got this or maybe it's unfair. And then if you get millions,

Speaker 1 oh, okay.

Speaker 4 That's, you know, that's pretty weird.

Speaker 1 How does someone shift their mindset in believing they are deserving of creating financial abundance?

Speaker 4 I think the thing that shifted it for me was I was asked once

Speaker 4 by a mentor. He said, can I do the activity on you? Do it.
And see how you go.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, bring it. All right, I'll bring it.

Speaker 4 So next year, 2026, you're going to earn an amount of money that satisfies all your needs. And I don't want you to be greedy.
I want you to tell me what number comes up.

Speaker 4 So an amount of money. Don't be greedy.
Don't be greedy. I want you to a number.

Speaker 1 So now I feel like I'm in school and this is a test. I always fail tests, so see.
Okay, so a number is going to come to me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I want you to pick a number that satisfies all your needs. And I don't want you to be greedy.
Just pick the number that comes to mind.

Speaker 1 Well, it bounced around, but is it to me personally or my business it's for you personally for me personally

Speaker 1 the first number I don't know why came to my mind

Speaker 1 was $20 million

Speaker 1 okay but I'm also trying to beat the game of this tax okay okay so I'm like okay you know

Speaker 4 came to mind and then what happened

Speaker 1 and I was like is that greedy is that not greedy but I'm thinking of how can I serve people with this money interesting I'm thinking of 20 million wouldn't be greedy because I'm just thinking about how I can make a bigger difference with this money.

Speaker 1 Oh, you know, how can I serve people? You know the game, right? Clearly, you know how to get it.

Speaker 1 Well, how can I, you know, how can I generate more so I can hire more people to create livelihood within people? How can I

Speaker 1 give my team more money? Because now I have more money to give them. How can I...
So what happens is I asked this of some people.

Speaker 1 But then I was like, well, originally I was thinking 100 million, but I was like, okay, for me personally, it's like, I'm going to be giving a lot of this.

Speaker 4 So I said this to a young guy a couple of days ago yes

Speaker 4 and his number that he said was 250 grand yeah and I said that number's really greedy and he said why do you say that and I said because that number only satisfies your needs you're one person you're one person I said I said let me ask you a question I said if you had three kids would your number be bigger or smaller and he said it would be bigger I said okay so that means because you're thinking about somebody else yes I said what happens if you had sick parents would your number be bigger or smaller he goes bigger I said okay so the more people you start to think about, the bigger the number.

Speaker 4 I said, so is it greedy to want more or less?

Speaker 1 Less.

Speaker 4 Yeah, less is greedy. So it's like, oh, you've got to flip your script here.

Speaker 4 The people who were very, very powerful a long time ago, they wanted to completely install an idea into people's heads that it's greedy to want to have more. Isn't that interesting? Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 Because they said, uh-uh,

Speaker 4 we're going to have all this, you're going to have a little bit,

Speaker 4 and you're going to be greedy if if you want what we've got.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

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Speaker 1 But it's been conditioned in so many of us, right? Like, just be happy with what you have.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Now, but there's also a flip coin, the flip side of the coin, which is like just,

Speaker 1 you know, the fisherman story.

Speaker 1 You know, which is like, why go build more boats and have more teams and

Speaker 1 book more fish to like make more money when at the end of the day, you just want to like

Speaker 1 be on your island and fish every day and be with your wife and your kids.

Speaker 4 So this is a problem of an alignment, alignment.

Speaker 1 So we have to choose seasons.

Speaker 1 Seasons of life.

Speaker 4 And we have to choose what is it that we want to be in alignment to.

Speaker 4 So we have to be in alignment with certain outcomes, certain goals.

Speaker 4 There is an algorithm that's kind of built into us that is make the most of what we've got

Speaker 4 while taking care of self and others. So

Speaker 4 imagine this kind of like line, and it's like if you've got this power to make hundreds of millions, and for you that's fun, and you're in alignment to making 100 million, which some people are,

Speaker 4 then you have an obligation to explore that as your life path while looking after self and others.

Speaker 1 So it's like,

Speaker 4 so it's like, I need to make the most. Now, the truth about the fisherman story is that the fisherman never had...

Speaker 4 alignment to floating companies on the stock market.

Speaker 1 He didn't have the desire.

Speaker 4 That wasn't his life's path. So he wasn't waking up every day going, this is something I'm capable of.
This is something I should be doing, this would be my way of maximizing myself and others.

Speaker 4 He was sitting there saying, Hey, based on my life's path, being a fisherman and providing for my village by going out and fishing and taking other people on that journey and having that experience, that's my life path.

Speaker 4 Whereas the person who perhaps went to Harvard and did a finance degree and has found themselves commanding

Speaker 4 a knowledge of how to do these kind of amazing transactions and deals, it's probably, especially if it brings them alive, if they, there's this word called vitality.

Speaker 4 Vitality has two meanings, which is life force energy and irreplaceable. There are certain moments where you have irreplaceable life force energy.

Speaker 4 And what that feels like is no one could be here other than this is me. This is what I'm meant to be here.
In this situation, I'm irreplaceable.

Speaker 4 And life force energy is I'm bringing this to life. If I leave, this dies.

Speaker 1 Right? Right.

Speaker 4 So the fisherman's vitality is to be on that boat bringing in those fish. If I leave, this dies, this is where I'm meant to be.

Speaker 4 This is where I'm irreplaceable.

Speaker 4 The bankers in the story, his vitality is floating companies. If I leave, this doesn't float.

Speaker 4 And trying to take someone else out of their life force energy to replicate your life force energy is not where it's at.

Speaker 1 Unless that person is meant to do something greater than where he's at or it's... when you're out of alignment

Speaker 4 When you're out of alignment, then you know you're out of alignment and you go hey wait a second, what am I trying to do here? Like I'm not in alignment with my you know

Speaker 4 There's a life story that's unfolding. There's my origin story my mission and my vision

Speaker 4 My origin story is everything that led up to this point. My vision is where I want to what I want to do with my life.
My mission is the highest value work that I could be doing at any given time.

Speaker 4 And when we're in alignment, it feels like this straight line between past, present, and future flowing through us. And it gives us this vitality.

Speaker 4 So this is what I'm talking about. And it's a magical ingredient.
And when that is in alignment, everything flows. The right people show up.
The right conversations flow.

Speaker 4 The people who weren't meant to be there leave. The money attracts.
Like, it just starts. piecing together.

Speaker 4 So there are definitely times where you sit there and go, what am I doing here? Like, this is, if I leave, this doesn't die. If I leave, they get on with it.
I'm not in my vitality here.

Speaker 4 This is not my past, present, and future expressing itself.

Speaker 4 I need to go find something else. That's fine.
That's because you recognize you're out of alignment. But sometimes you recognize you're in alignment.
And

Speaker 4 the thing about vitality is you can't get someone else to do it because it's you.

Speaker 1 It's your thing.

Speaker 4 That's where you're meant to be.

Speaker 1 Where do you feel like you're out of alignment in your life right now?

Speaker 4 Where am I out of alignment?

Speaker 4 My biggest area of out of alignment is my health, my fitness.

Speaker 4 See, I've I've got my little bit of a

Speaker 4 over 40 chin going on here.

Speaker 1 Over 40 is a mindset.

Speaker 4 Over 40 is a mindset. I

Speaker 4 yeah, I mean, my thing is I've never been great at fitness and I'm resourcing the situation, getting all of that. But yeah,

Speaker 4 there's an out of alignment. I feel like I could do more for the world.

Speaker 4 if fitness was a bigger priority and if if i if my uh if my outcomes matched you know my values around fitness because my values have now shifted that's definitely happened I had a health scare and it really shifted my values and then my

Speaker 4 health scare it was Christmas time this Christmas just gone yeah I did a blood test and the doctor rang me the night before Christmas and said your pancreas is producing an enzyme that is in a very high level and it's

Speaker 4 it's it's something that's associated with not good things and he said I'm calling you before Christmas because I don't want you to drink alcohol and I don't want you to have a big Christmas dinner I want you to just eat modestly and don't drink alcohol.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's that high of importance, it sounds like we couldn't have one more weekend.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, he said Christmas is a time where you could easily indulge and you could really do some real serious damage to your pancreas.

Speaker 4 Wow. Yeah, so that was that was a um, you know, this

Speaker 4 Charles Dickens, uh, the ghost of Christmas Eve. That was my ghost of Christmas Eve moment.
Literally, yeah, literally.

Speaker 4 So I spent the week between Christmas and New Year talking to ChatGBT endlessly about pancreases. And

Speaker 1 how old are are you 45 then i'm 44 44 43 at the time yeah wow so um when's your birthday march january january yeah 44 okay so 43 you get the way you go call christmas eve yeah that hey don't have alcohol tonight yeah don't have a big dinner with desserts tonight yeah but a doctor if it was a mild case they want to call you Yeah, no, he said, no, you're you're sky high on your pancreas levels.

Speaker 4 So I like, and also one of my heroes is Steve Jobs, who died of pancreatic cancer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 How old was he? He was only 56, you know, and like horrific.

Speaker 1 And he went through like cancer treatment probably 10 years before and five years before. It was like,

Speaker 1 so this is the time

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 1 things helped for him essentially. Like if he didn't catch it sooner, yeah.
So, so

Speaker 4 yeah, so for me, that was like the wake-up call I needed. Shift of values, shift of behaviors.
So now I'm a few months into really that journey.

Speaker 1 What was your values before that phone call?

Speaker 4 Probably taking health and fitness for granted.

Speaker 4 It's always come like I've always been healthy enough.

Speaker 4 I've always, I'll tell you the negative beliefs that people who put so much energy into their health and fitness are self-indulgent. They're greedy.

Speaker 1 They're greedy. Selfish.
They're making it about them.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're vain.

Speaker 4 And that I'm better because I pour myself into projects that add value to teams and people.

Speaker 1 This is so astonishing. This is so escalating because,

Speaker 1 you know, when my wife, when we started dating, like almost three months in, we still weren't officially committed, but we were like spending all this time together, right?

Speaker 1 So it was kind of limbo, but we really liked each other.

Speaker 1 She asked me the,

Speaker 1 what are your priorities in life question, which I think every guy probably gets from a woman at some point when they're dating. Like, what is it you really want? What are your priorities?

Speaker 4 Job interview questions. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Like, I will.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 I thought we were having fun here.

Speaker 4 I'm being weighed up right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I was like,

Speaker 1 and I, and I remember, I go, what do you mean? She goes, like, what are your priorities in life? And what, what is a priority to you?

Speaker 1 And I told her in that moment, I was like,

Speaker 1 do you want me to be honest with you? Or do you want me to kind of like

Speaker 1 give you what you want to hear? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because up until that point, I was 100% honest about everything. Past.
Yeah. Stuff I was ashamed of, stuff I wasn't proud of, like everything.

Speaker 1 And so I was like, all right, do I start lying now or, you know, like little white lies or do I give it to her?

Speaker 1 And I said, listen, I'm going to tell you the truth, but this may be our last conversation.

Speaker 1 You know, we're probably going to stop dating after this point because no one's been able to handle the truth about what my priorities are up until this point. It's always been like an issue.

Speaker 1 You framed that up powerfully.

Speaker 1 And so she was like, oh, you're going to say something crazy, right?

Speaker 1 And she goes, what are your priorities? I go, well, you know, it's been good knowing you.

Speaker 1 And this is a fun three months, but again, you're not going to want to be with me after this and I'm okay with I'm sad because I'm really enjoying this but it's what's got to happen and she goes okay what's your priority I go you will never be my number one priority and no woman wants to hear that no woman entering a relationship with a man wants to hear that they are not number one

Speaker 1 and I said there's a reason behind this number one needs to be my health it needs to be my health it doesn't mean i need to spend eight hours a day on my health it just needs to be a focal point of taking care of my energy and my health includes spiritual health my relationship with God, emotional health, and physical well-being.

Speaker 1 It's the whole health.

Speaker 1 Why is health need to be number one? Because I need a strong foundation for my second priority, which won't be you either. And no woman wants to not be number one or number two in a relationship.

Speaker 1 I said my second priority will be my service to the world. Yep.
My purpose,

Speaker 1 which is the ability to serve people at a high level.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if this is going to be my purpose for the next five years or 50 years it's seasonal it may be over at some point but if I feel like I'm meant to do something if I have a calling to serve people greater and I'm being held back by it by one person because they feel insecure I'm going to resent it and I'm going to feel like I'm doing a disservice to God and so I want to make sure that I'm living in alignment with my calling and on that path.

Speaker 1 And how'd you react? And I said, my third priority will be our our relationship yeah if we're in this our marriage or family like it's not going to be not a priority and i said if you can receive that

Speaker 1 and you can understand that my health mental physical spiritual is number one my purpose number two

Speaker 1 you will feel like number one

Speaker 1 because i will give it be present with you i'll have all my efforts and energy and you'll be and you'll be with the real me you'll be with the most authentic yeah happiest me yeah and an unhealthy me is not happy in a relationship

Speaker 1 A person who's not,

Speaker 1 me who knows I'm supposed to be living a purpose, but I'm doing something else out of fear, I'm not going to be happy in the relationship. I'm going to resent that.

Speaker 4 So you're going to be the guy that she fell in love with anyway. Exactly.
And

Speaker 4 the trick would be is if you rearranged those two priorities, then she'd fall in love with one guy and then end up with, you know, the sale rack.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.
Like a discounted version of herself. That's what I mean.
Not stepping into the highest version of me.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 she goes,

Speaker 1 I'm so happy to hear this because I've never dated a man that had a purpose.

Speaker 4 Or that had the guts to say what it was.

Speaker 1 And they always wanted to make me their priority. Yeah.
And I was like, that's great, but what's the thing you want to do in life? Like, what are you meant to do? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And even if you're not doing it at the highest level, at least if you're like trying to do it, you know, failing at something you're supposed to do is better than nothing.

Speaker 1 And so she was like, you're the perfect guy for that.

Speaker 4 I had a similar conversation with my wife, really. Yeah.
We had a very similar conversation.

Speaker 4 Didn't have the health one in there, but but i i said my number one priority is is my uh contribution to the world like it's my purpose um and sometimes that's gonna take me on

Speaker 4 uh you know take me on uh journey traveling you're gonna be this yeah i'm just gonna have to be knuckle down and um yeah but i but i also said that's you know that's because if you like who i am that's who i am yes you know so now here's the thing daniel you know you've got an interesting name we talked about this before daniel priestley um bless you my son you know

Speaker 1 what do you feel like the meaning of your name is for your life? What is the meaning of it meant for you throughout your life?

Speaker 4 You got me thinking about this. So I'm Daniel Stephen Priestley.
Daniel is, you know, biblical character,

Speaker 4 courageous, and a good judge.

Speaker 4 He's the divine judge, is the meaning of the name from the Bible.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 he's in alignment. That's why the lions don't touch him because he's not fearful.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 he's there to be who he wants to be.

Speaker 4 So, nice, that character.

Speaker 4 My mum named me that because of Elton John's song, Daniel's Traveling Tonight on a Plane. I do a lot of Traveling Tonight on a Plane,

Speaker 4 so that's a little bit baked into

Speaker 4 that.

Speaker 4 Stephen was my uncle who died shortly before I was born. He had a car crash, and so I carry that legacy with me: that this guy whose life was cut short at 24,

Speaker 4 he's part of me. Had he not died, I wouldn't be here wow which is kind of weird

Speaker 4 because he was he was the catalyst for my mum and dad

Speaker 4 getting their relationship together

Speaker 1 so someone had to sacrifice like yes

Speaker 1 that's just how it worked for your parents to meet that's just how it worked yeah

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 so so there's there's that and then

Speaker 4 Priestley, obviously there's a couple of different meanings to that. It's obviously my paternal line.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I'm from some soldiers who fought in wars,

Speaker 4 some people who had very, very good spiritual faith

Speaker 4 and entrepreneurs.

Speaker 4 Strangely, I'm from a long line of people from London.

Speaker 4 The weirdest thing happened that when I arrived in London, having never been above the equator in my life,

Speaker 4 having no idea of London, I arrived and I set up an office two blocks from where my grandfather was born and two blocks from where my great-grandparents were buried in in a cemetery.

Speaker 1 You didn't know. I had no idea.

Speaker 4 And where I live today is like a short distance from where multiple generations of my family

Speaker 4 were born and raised. So it's yeah, it's strange, all those priestly connections.
But yeah,

Speaker 4 the funny thing about Priestley is a lot of people say that I preach a lot.

Speaker 1 I'm a little bit too preachy.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 perhaps that's built in there as well.

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Speaker 1 Well, you're 44, right? Yep. Which four, for me, the number of, it's a foundational number.
It's also a number of love.

Speaker 1 But really, you know, you're an eight, you're an infinity right now, which is your 44 is four plus four is eight. And so you're in a cycle with your number.

Speaker 1 And I believe that numbers and names have meanings.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you've got a phone call Christmas Eve. Like all these signs and synchronicities are lining up for you to be in alignment with your health.
And I get kind of chills just thinking about it.

Speaker 1 You know, you have a daughter, you have two sons.

Speaker 1 Again, you know, my thought is, what does 55-year-old Daniel look like

Speaker 1 based on the decision you make today and over the past few months that you've been deciding? Yeah. Like, what would 55-year-old Daniel?

Speaker 4 Well, 55-year-old Daniel is going to be in the best shape of his life.

Speaker 4 And he's grateful to 44-year-old Daniel for doing fasts because I really like getting value from fasting, which is really good for the pancreas and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 And four personal training sessions a week,

Speaker 4 all processed foods out the door, alcohol and coffee gone.

Speaker 4 So those are some of the big, big shifts.

Speaker 1 What would a 55-year-old Daniel preach to you about today and say, all that's nice, but what's really at the core that you need to be doing, thinking, and behaving differently differently so that you take us to the promised land literally that we're still here not just uh surviving but i'm actually living in full alignment with our health so that our kids can look at us in 10 years from now 11 years from now and say dang dad really did this like dad actually stepped up and owned the courageous parts of himself that were really hard to do.

Speaker 1 What is your future self truly preaching to you to do?

Speaker 1 And stop hiding behind.

Speaker 4 The big one is

Speaker 4 around

Speaker 4 trying to take a more active role in the schooling system.

Speaker 4 Because I know it's broken and I know what's coming because of the technology.

Speaker 4 So, you know, not just in the lives of my own kids, because they're going to grow up in a pretty reasonable family, but figuring out how do we do this more widespread?

Speaker 4 How do we create a system that is going to work for a lot of people?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 so many people at the moment are in pain, lots of pain.

Speaker 4 They're playing by the rules and it's not working for them.

Speaker 4 You know, the society is splitting.

Speaker 4 We've had almost 100 years of a middle class after the war, 80 years of the middle class after World War II, and we took it for granted and now the middle class is in decline and we're getting rising rates at the bottom and rising rates at the top.

Speaker 4 People are moving from the middle either up. Do you know there's more wealthy people than ever before?

Speaker 4 Wealth is definitely taking off. If you happen to be on this side, boom, it's happening here.

Speaker 4 But we're also getting rates of people who can't keep up with inflation, can't keep up with the cost of living, blame themselves.

Speaker 4 So like for me personally, hugely aligned to my mission is being on these kind of big platforms. to just talk about what's happening

Speaker 4 and talk about what is what because we have hit this technological edge singularity where we've either created artificial general intelligence or it's about to come. We've hit the singularity.

Speaker 4 Life is not going to be the same again. So everything's up for grabs and people like yourself, like myself, need to shape the world in a positive direction or else it'll just fall into chaos.

Speaker 1 If you had to sell every business in the next 30 days and you got 10 times more than the number that you wanted for every business and you have hundreds of millions in the bank bank

Speaker 1 and you are only allowed to focus on one thing for the next decade. One thing only

Speaker 1 put all of your time and attention into solving a problem, serving something, optimizing, transforming something, what would that opportunity be?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I run this entrepreneur accelerator called Dent and if I had to sell it, I'd just start a new one, right? But

Speaker 4 Dent is developing entrepreneurs who stand out, scale up, and make a positive impact in the world.

Speaker 4 The origin of this was that I got into the idea of like wanting to do something for charity. And I did an amazing trip to India.
I did an amazing trip to Uganda.

Speaker 4 I explored environmental stuff. I explored humanitarian stuff.
So I really got into this about 15 years ago. I had some profound experiences, like two or three very profound experiences.

Speaker 4 And I was trying to think, like, how do I make enough money to do all these things that I'm interested in?

Speaker 4 And then I realized if I create an accelerator that is about developing entrepreneurs who can stand out, scale up and make a dent in the universe, the Steve Jobs quote is to an entrepreneur's job is to make a dent in the universe.

Speaker 4 I thought if I can develop thousands of people who can make a dent in the universe, maybe I can solve a lot more problems than if I try and do it directly and try and be the one who does it.

Speaker 4 Maybe I can enroll thousands of people to be to be part of this extended thing.

Speaker 4 As it stands today, we do now have thousands of entrepreneurs who have committed their business to make a positive impact in the world.

Speaker 4 So we have, you know, one of our entrepreneurs, Sebastian, has created the Warrior Academy where he teaches martial arts in Kenya and Nepal to, I think, five or six thousand kids a week.

Speaker 4 And he had a martial arts school in England, right? And he set up his foundation. His foundation is now spread across

Speaker 4 the UK and Dubai. And he's used that to actually,

Speaker 4 and through some connections of mine, we created a patrons program that patrons program now allows that company that foundation to teach thousands of kids They get they're all orphans.

Speaker 4 They're fed They're taught they're given life skills under this umbrella of the Warrior Academy

Speaker 4 You know, I'm very good friends with Paul and Masami who

Speaker 4 they created something called buy one give one and buy one give one is a charity that

Speaker 4 allows people that every time you buy something it's automatically factored in so as your business scales,

Speaker 4 your impact scales.

Speaker 1 It's like the Tom Shoes model, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but like it's created a platform for, they've now had 370 million giving impacts. Wow.

Speaker 4 It's really cool. So all of our businesses, they sign up to B1G1 and they use their business as a force for good.
So like that to me is pretty powerful.

Speaker 1 But what's the one problem if you could only solve one that you would go after? I see. I know you're like letting every entrepreneur kind of solve their own problems.

Speaker 4 Well, this is the problem. The problem is that we now live in a world where the biggest problem in the world at the moment is that people feel displaced.

Speaker 4 They feel that they were brought up for a world that no longer exists and they feel this sense of mission and meaning, but they don't know how to express it in the world.

Speaker 4 So I want, like, I'm very aligned to teach entrepreneurship. I'm not doing this for the money, to be honest.
Like, I...

Speaker 4 I enjoy creating software companies, and software companies create a lot of money. But all the software companies I create are also about developing entrepreneurs and doing that.

Speaker 4 Like ScoreApp has allowed 8,000 entrepreneurs to generate hundreds of leads a month, which allows them to grow and scale and allows them to fulfill their dreams. That's great.

Speaker 4 So like every software business that I'm building is in alignment with this idea that people feel displaced, they want to make an impact in the world, they want to...

Speaker 4 have a career that's meaningful they want to explore this way of showing up called entrepreneurship and that we're mapping out the step by step.

Speaker 4 so like there are actually probably ways i could make money better and faster but i'm really aligned to that you feel like yeah i i don't know do you pick up from me that i do stuff because i want to make a lot of money and that i've got seven companies because i want to make a lot of money yeah yeah because because that's yeah that's not where i i come from like it's it's very much i'm building a mini empire because i want to see a transition happen in the world yeah yeah

Speaker 1 Is there a number you're looking to hit though? Like a financial goal?

Speaker 4 There will be moments in my life no like i'm i'm financially sweet yeah um you're not like how do i get it to this net worth and that's all it's fun to play those games it's fun to play the game like like score app

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 4 it would be

Speaker 4 it will not be surprising if in the next few years sorry well this year or early next year that we sell it for close to a hundred million dollars

Speaker 4 if that goes ahead it's because the company that we sell it to will be a better fit for it to go on and become even more successful to scale up so it'll be like selling it in partnership as its next evolution.

Speaker 4 Will $100 million totally transform the way that I live? Not really. Like, honestly, I would go to work the next day.

Speaker 4 Solve the next problem. Do what I'm doing.
I would live in the same house I live in now.

Speaker 4 I would drive the same cars that I have now.

Speaker 1 You don't eat so much food. So you can't buy more food to eat.

Speaker 1 It's it, right?

Speaker 4 So if we do that exit, you can only be at one house at a time.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like

Speaker 1 10 houses. No,

Speaker 4 there's like,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 yeah, very little about the way I live would change. I pretty much...

Speaker 4 The funny thing about selling a company, by the way, is that by the time you can sell companies, it is actually genuinely neither here nor there.

Speaker 4 Because like if you sell a company for 100 million, it's probably because it makes four or five million profit.

Speaker 4 And by that stage, you've got four or five million a year for you.

Speaker 1 You can make a bank.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like I'm already in a situation where every single month our bank account goes like that because we've got so many subscribers and all of that sort of stuff so i'm already in that position you only need so much cash flow for your lifestyle yeah yeah and a lot of stuff is not as fun as actually building stuff like i i enjoy building stuff um so i would just go straight into into that next like i i project i'd still be developing entrepreneurs who stand out scale up and make a positive impact in the world in one way or another yeah

Speaker 1 what do you want your kids to think about you in terms of what they learned over the last you know um 10 plus years growing up?

Speaker 1 What do you wish they learned, knew about you as their dad?

Speaker 4 I would love it if they don't spend any time at all thinking about me, if they're focused on their life, their future, their kids,

Speaker 4 and if they don't feel any sense of obligation, any sense of

Speaker 4 like, you know, I think the term legacy

Speaker 4 can mean many things, but the way I think of it is to pass something on. And to pass it on fully fully means that it's fully yours.

Speaker 4 Like if I leave you something, it's fully yours now. That's yours.

Speaker 4 So my dream for my kids would be that they spend absolutely no time thinking about me.

Speaker 4 I don't want them reminiscing or any of that sort of stuff. Be future focused, be focused on your wife, your kids, your family, your husband,

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 1 your career.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 maybe if they stop and think about it, they go, oh, I had a really good upbringing. Like, you know, I got good mentoring from, you know, and my parents were a good role model for us.

Speaker 4 But only if they really stopped and thought about it. You know, I don't want them sitting around thinking about me.

Speaker 1 If you could only teach your kids one lesson, what would it be?

Speaker 4 One great lesson would be you speak things into existence. You get what you pitch for.

Speaker 1 That

Speaker 4 words are creative, not descriptive.

Speaker 4 So we create with our words, not describe things with our words. So the way you get a hundred million dollar business is you pitch it into existence.

Speaker 4 The way you have amazing people join the team is you pitch them to join the team.

Speaker 4 You speak stuff out there and it comes.

Speaker 4 So it's speaking, it's the power to speak things into existence. So it'd be a lesson on how to do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I call it enrollment.

Speaker 4 Enrollment conversations.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how do you enroll

Speaker 1 vision? Yeah.

Speaker 4 King Arthur pulled the sword from the stone, the words and the tones.

Speaker 4 It's

Speaker 4 the message of that story is that he became king when he got the words and the tones, not the sword and the stone. But it's the...

Speaker 1 What do you do with the words and the tones? What was it?

Speaker 4 If you rearrange sword and stone, it's the words and the tones. It's the ability to have words and tones, the ability to command an army

Speaker 4 through the power of speech. So it's speaking things into existence.

Speaker 4 As entrepreneurs, we call this pitching. Enrollment conversation is another great way of describing it.

Speaker 1 Besides getting in the best shape of your life this year, what else do do you need to enroll yourself in?

Speaker 4 Gee, I didn't know I was coming here for the hard questions, man. This is

Speaker 1 what else? The meaningful questions. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can talk about how to make money on any show. Yeah, true.

Speaker 4 I like it.

Speaker 4 But what's the.

Speaker 4 I'll tell you what comes up for me when you say that.

Speaker 4 This is a first world problem, but

Speaker 4 I find that I'm incredibly comfortable in my life. And the downside of...

Speaker 1 There's a problem to comfort as well.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the downside of being incredibly comfortable in my life is that

Speaker 4 it's, you know, at 44, I'm here to play a big game.

Speaker 4 I'm just hitting my stride.

Speaker 4 As an entrepreneur, this is my decade.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 to continue to enroll myself in...

Speaker 4 Play a big game,

Speaker 4 take the family with, you know, take the family with,

Speaker 4 You know, honor and respect the fact that I only get to do this because my wife and my kids are on board with it, right? So honor that relationship. Honor my team.
Respect my team.

Speaker 4 My co-founders, my investors,

Speaker 4 those relationships, but

Speaker 4 keep playing the bigger game.

Speaker 4 Even though it's super comfortable, if I want it to be super comfortable, it's like, no, no,

Speaker 4 let's keep that hunger. You know, the Steve Jobs quote, stay hungry, stay curious.

Speaker 4 So so it would be stay hungry, stay curious

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Speaker 1 Did I see you hanging out with our friend Dan Martell recently? I did, yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's uh it seems like he's taken the call to adventure in the last 12 months of like health first.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's exploded his business. Yeah.
It seems like by going all in on health as the priority.

Speaker 4 He looks so good. Like he walked into the restaurant the other night

Speaker 4 as an athlete.

Speaker 1 He probably didn't eat anything. He's just like

Speaker 1 chicken with salt. That's it.
Yeah. No.
I mean, it's a level of discipline to be at that level. I'm not saying you have to be that extreme, but look how much, you know,

Speaker 1 he's 10x his business in 12 and a half months or something. Yes.
By going all in on obsessing over health. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you could say one thing's extreme or not. I'm not here about what is or what isn't.

Speaker 4 No, it was inspiring to see what he was doing.

Speaker 1 But the belief and confidence that stems from optimizing health. I'm not at that level, you know, and I train hard, but he's like obsessive.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I think he's got more of an addictive personality.

Speaker 4 This is his current addiction, healthy addiction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's like he's been on the other side where he went to jail and alcohol addiction and drug addiction.

Speaker 1 So this is like he's using it for good, but it's all in one away or not, it seems like. But it only seems like it's made him a greater leader.
Oh, tough.

Speaker 1 Made him more money, made him impact more people. It's made him more focused.
Yeah. And probably created a sense of

Speaker 1 a deeper sense of appreciation for what he's able to do for himself.

Speaker 1 Again, I'm not saying that's what you need to do. No, but it's it.
But

Speaker 1 I am enrolling you in a

Speaker 1 graver

Speaker 1 challenge than what you've even put on yourself because I think you're focusing on it. And this is our first time hanging out, but I don't think you've gone all in on health.

Speaker 1 I think you're like, yeah, I know this is what I need to do. And three, four days a week, and this and this, and I'm going to cut this out, but you haven't fully said, I am health.

Speaker 1 And what does health? represent to me not just being comfortable like you said but getting so uncomfortable that you set up the rest of your life for decades,

Speaker 1 not just, well, we'll see where I'm at at 55 if I do this three, four days a week thing.

Speaker 1 And again, I'm not saying you need to be fully obsessive every grain of salt like Denmartel,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 what would your life look like if you unlocked at an even greater level of health and making it the priority?

Speaker 1 above every business, above everything else, so that you can serve at higher levels in business

Speaker 1 because of that behavior shift.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well,

Speaker 4 I think it would set a great example to my kids to start with, that success and health go hand in hand.

Speaker 4 They're not at odds with each other.

Speaker 4 And it would just be a massive move towards being a role model on multiple fronts. For your kids.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 that that alone would be great it would obviously take relationship up a up a notch i think too it'd be just more inspiring to if i'm sharing a message it would be easier to hear that message if the person delivering it is clearly.

Speaker 1 You would be more enrolling. Yeah.
Yeah. I'd enroll.
Your businesses would 10x just by you going all in on health.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I agree.

Speaker 1 So what would it look like for you to fully create the systems process and vision inside of you that this is the number one versus it's a high priority? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And maybe not ready for that right now, but not just challenging.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I know, to make it number one priority.

Speaker 1 Because it's right up there.

Speaker 4 Like since Christmas,

Speaker 4 like personal training sessions every week, and,

Speaker 4 you know, I completely cut out coffee, cut out all alcohol and coffee, which has been great, by the way. Like, sleep is phenomenal without coffee.

Speaker 4 I'm just trying to think, like,

Speaker 1 it's been four months. It's been four months of this journey so far.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I'm loving it. Okay.
Yeah. Really enjoying it.
I enjoy training with a trainer. That's great.
My grandfather wouldn't understand, but I do enjoy training with a trainer.

Speaker 4 I think probably the the one thing that's missing is a health challenge so like what i haven't done is i haven't said like i'm committing myself to doing a like because dan is doing dan martel is doing uh like 75 harder he's doing like ultra marathons yeah he's training for niron man right now yeah so he's actually put a put a you don't have a carrot no you don't have something you're like all right this is how or a stick

Speaker 1 you know any of that you're just like all right i'm gonna do this yeah So it's crazy sometimes. I'm going to run a half marathon or I'm going to run a marathon.

Speaker 4 So a health challenge would definitely, would definitely be something.

Speaker 1 so that's one thing that would be one thing health challenge yeah

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 1 because I again I feel like what's blocking you from making a greater impact is health yeah right and I see Dan Martel's impact oh yeah talking about financial and you also see his

Speaker 4 impact yeah and you see the photos of how he was before health was an issue was it was a focus and you wouldn't take that guy as seriously.

Speaker 1 And I knew Dan back in 2009, I met Dan.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 1 Back when he was like Flowtown, you know, and like creating these other software apps back in San Francisco when no one even remembers these companies that he was a part of.

Speaker 1 I remember being in the San Francisco office in 2010 with him when it was like, you know, eight people startup world.

Speaker 1 We used to spend time at South by Southwest every year. We were in that kind of world and it was

Speaker 1 fat Dan, you know, it was fat Dan life. But he was extremely talented and fun and he was the same character.
Same guy,

Speaker 1 but he didn't have the obsession. And again, this is not a right or wrong thing.
No, he's bad.

Speaker 4 He does seem to have an addictive personality and this is, he's channeled it into the right place.

Speaker 1 He's putting it into, but all I'm saying is the outer.

Speaker 4 The difference for me is I've always been quite a generalist.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 I've enjoyed

Speaker 4 spreading myself a little as a generalist.

Speaker 4 So the intensity of Dan on that one thing.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying you need to obsess like that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But what I'm saying. What are your views on fasting?

Speaker 1 I fast different times. Yeah.
I fast for 24 hours. I'll fast for two, three hours.

Speaker 4 Have you ever done like a seven-day fast?

Speaker 1 I did a four and a half day. Yeah.
And it was hard.

Speaker 4 Because I did two seven-day fasts. That's impressive.
And those two, like nothing but water for seven days.

Speaker 1 That's impressive.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 1 this was quite a while ago.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I've never felt so good

Speaker 1 after that.

Speaker 4 So like right now I'm mentally gearing up for a fast.

Speaker 4 as in like this week. That's correct.
Yeah, because I just... I like it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, and again, I'm a...

Speaker 4 And I feel like that's also a bit of a turning point that it's like that I'm

Speaker 4 back to that level of commitment.

Speaker 1 That's great. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 I am at the point where like listen I want to enjoy life. I don't have to be so strict on myself either.

Speaker 1 I'm not like I have to have a six pack otherwise I'm like worthless, you know well you have a six pack. It's just it's not there.
It's a little fat still just buried. It's a little fat there.

Speaker 1 It's a buried treasure.

Speaker 1 But it's so for me, it's not about I have to have a certain look or a certain results physically to feel like I matter or I'm enough or it's okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like I can live in 80-20 and and be okay with it where it's like I have sugar, I have like desserts every now and then, but I know my mind that if I eat too much of it,

Speaker 1 my body reacts to it.

Speaker 4 Would you say health is still your number one?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I also look at it as spiritual, emotional, physical. It's not just holistic health.
Physically, I need to be perfect.

Speaker 4 How old are you now?

Speaker 1 42. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's more of like, am I spiritually at peace? Am I emotionally in good relationships? Like, do I feel good about me?

Speaker 1 How are you with phone addiction?

Speaker 1 A lot better. Yeah.
I mean, I think I've gone through phases. But

Speaker 1 I have the Opal app on, which is like blocks me after five minutes from checking something

Speaker 1 and constantly reminds me if I'm like in a loop.

Speaker 4 This is the thing because AI is very good at, without something like that, you got to use AI against AI.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I use that as like a blocker because I'm also in a media world. So I'm like, oh, I want to research what's happening in the world.
And dashboards.

Speaker 4 Humans have never had such dashboards. Right.
Like consider that,

Speaker 4 you know, if you went back a few hundred years ago, if you planted crops, you didn't find out how those crops did for three months.

Speaker 1 No, no. We're seeing data all day long.
Yeah. So we're refreshing the data.
Your brain can just work. What's working, what's not working, testing, analyzing.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And oh, that got a million views.
And now it's at 1.2. And now it's at 1.3.
You want to refresh that.

Speaker 1 refresh refresh yeah and oh some negative comments some some stranger on the other side of the world on the internet is like not happy that i recorded this episode right oh you know yeah so it's managing all that i think um i can definitely be better i mean i'm not uh cal newport yeah well no for for me that like i'm not like deep work and there's i'm not zero app and just like i only do deep work part of my holistic thing is i've i need to like

Speaker 4 like i've i find the pull towards the phone is strong.

Speaker 1 It's hard, yeah.

Speaker 1 I do seven day fasting, no phone.

Speaker 4 Phone fasting. Phone in a safe.
That's got to be a new thing.

Speaker 1 I've done seven days in a safe. I love it.
Not even taking it out to like check messages. Wow.
And so that's something that I like to do.

Speaker 1 I try to do that once a year, you know, where it's like a phone fast for

Speaker 1 seven days.

Speaker 1 Because I think it resets me spiritually. And you end up with creativity and stuff bubbles up to the nervous system relaxed.

Speaker 1 And I think the greatest wealth is inner peace. At the end of the day, people are creating things because they want to feel enough.

Speaker 1 They're creating something to feel loved, worthy, deserving, accepted, acknowledged,

Speaker 4 that they matter. Yes, and there's another element too,

Speaker 4 which is

Speaker 4 I've got a cat. And if I get my laser pointer and shine the laser pointer on the floor, the cat just springs to life and chases it because it's instinctual.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of human behavior that is just instinctual. that if you like, and this is the stuff that these systems hack into, like a lot of these TikTok is a laser pointer.
Yes.

Speaker 4 It just fires off all the dopamine stuff.

Speaker 1 Well, it's keeping us in comfort. You said at 44, comfort's the thing you're trying to battle the most.
Yeah, yeah. And it's going against comfort.

Speaker 1 It's like, how do I stay uncomfortable where I'm still not? overly stressed and exhausted, but I'm not lazy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's like, where is finding finding that balance?

Speaker 1 The balance where at the end of the day, I feel like, oh, it was a good day, but I'm not just like mentally and physically, I'm like spent and I can't recover from this.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And you're feeling totally, yeah, wrung out.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so it's learning how to have that

Speaker 1 psychological test and emotional test where at the end of the day, like even a couple weeks ago, just so much has been going on this year. Where like my test is like, oh, my eyelid starts twitching.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It's like, oh, it's telling me I need sleep.

Speaker 4 I need to slow down. Your body's giving you a little signal.

Speaker 1 It's like a little signal. And that that could turn into something greater if I don't actually listen to it and slow down.

Speaker 1 So it's like, okay, I actually need to rest, or what do I need in this moment? And I think if I'm too much in a loop in any area, I need to find how to get back in alignment.

Speaker 1 Again, activating the alignment

Speaker 1 in us. You talked about vitality, and when you're not in alignment, you're out of vitality.

Speaker 1 You lose vitality.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you do.

Speaker 1 You lose life force. You're just not.
You're fighting against.

Speaker 4 You can't create.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and if you experience that, that's a signal. That's not how it should feel.
Like building stuff should feel joyful. It should be fun.
I think fun is a word that we've lost a lot.

Speaker 4 You know, like things should be fun.

Speaker 4 You know, fun is a biological signal that flows through the body that says, this is great. This is what you're meant to be doing right now.

Speaker 4 You know, I think we've lost, you know, one thing I've noticed in the US, especially when I'm here, is that so much of all friendships and relationships really center on work and what we could do for each other and how we could partner and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 You know, like when you're in Spain or when you're in Europe, friendships are friendships. They're there for, it's for traveling through life together.

Speaker 4 It's for being there, like

Speaker 4 it's for sharing food and it's for having conversations. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Talking about life ideas. Yeah, and very little to do with work.

Speaker 4 And a lot of friendships could have absolutely, they could go years without talking about work-related stuff.

Speaker 4 But yeah, fun. I think

Speaker 4 we lose track of the fact that fun is a really good signal. It's a great signal.
Yes. If something's fun, explore that.
Explore fun more.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 It's been powerful, Danny. I've got a couple final questions for you.
Before I ask them, I want to send people to your work. Where should people connect with you online and follow your work?

Speaker 1 You've got a lot of great books.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 4 on Amazon, there's all my books. I think I've got five or six different books that are out um

Speaker 4 and the entrepreneur revolution is a great place to start key person of influence um my software is scoreapp.com and this is a software that allows you to build a a quiz or a scorecard we should build you a school of greatness scorecard i'm in we have a few quizzes already but i'd love to

Speaker 1 get my team to build for some

Speaker 4 yeah and they're really fun and like you can you could actually do one for some of the top episodes that you watch an episode and then take the scorecard to see where you need to focus That's cool.

Speaker 4 Which would be really cool. So our team will build you some of those.
So scoreapp.com is a super easy way to build assessments.

Speaker 4 If you're launching with lead generation, if you're wanting to launch a waiting list, or if you're wanting to

Speaker 4 increase your sales conversions with a diagnostic, you can build all of that on scoreapp.com. Bookmagic.ai is good for writing a book.

Speaker 4 And dent.global is the entrepreneur accelerator.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Awesome.

Speaker 4 And also connect with me on Instagram or LinkedIn. Yeah, I spend a, yeah, those are...

Speaker 1 Your full name, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, at Daniel Priestley.

Speaker 1 At Daniel Priestley. If you want to have more courage and be preached to, make sure to follow Daniel Priestley.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 a question to ask everyone towards the end. It's called the Three Truths.
Imagine hypothetically, you get to live as long as you want to live, but it's your last day on earth.

Speaker 1 You can pick the age, but you got to call it quits. And you get to accomplish all your dreams.
And anything you think about comes true. You manifest what you want.
You actualize your ideas.

Speaker 1 You serve billions of people. But for whatever reason, on the last day, you got to take all of your work with you.

Speaker 1 Every piece of content you've published, every book, every interview, every platform you've developed, it's got to go, hypothetically.

Speaker 1 But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world, these three truths. And this is all we would have to be reminded of your content and your wisdom.
What would those three truths be for you?

Speaker 4 This is what comes to mind. And it was similar to what I said to my kids, which is you get what you pitch for and you're always pitching.
You speak your life into existence.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 be very careful about what you pitch into existence. Be intentional about pitching.

Speaker 4 Influence flows from output.

Speaker 4 It's the creating, not consuming, that makes the difference, right? so create not consume

Speaker 4 and and a link to that is like prolific beats perfect just put stuff out in the world create

Speaker 4 create not consume

Speaker 4 and the third one would be that you're in partnership with everyone you're in partnership with everyone

Speaker 4 you come in contact with so what does it mean to be in partnership

Speaker 4 Well, it means you care about their needs, they care about your needs, that you communicate with each other and you get into alignment,

Speaker 4 and that

Speaker 4 if you can be in partnership with more people, if you can have the spirit of partnership with more people, then amazing magic happens.

Speaker 4 So this idea that

Speaker 4 this idea that every day,

Speaker 4 any resource that you could dream of already exists on the planet. And you just need to be in partnership with the person who's already got access to it.

Speaker 4 You know, so if you want money, be in partnership with people who've already got money. If you want fame, be in partnership with people who've got fame.

Speaker 4 If you want creativity, be in partnership with people who have a lot of creativity going on. So

Speaker 4 it's that essentially your life gets better the more people that you have established good, clean, empowering partnerships with.

Speaker 1 That's beautiful, man.

Speaker 1 I want to acknowledge you, Daniel, for

Speaker 1 this conversation, for having the courage to answer some of my questions that you probably didn't think I was going to ask you about. I did.

Speaker 1 And I want to acknowledge you for

Speaker 1 being on purpose within your entrepreneurial journey and thinking about how can you serve other people to be entrepreneurial, to make

Speaker 1 problems go away in the world, to solve problems, to be a solution in the world versus a problem to people, and to be thinking in ways that are service-oriented.

Speaker 1 And I want to acknowledge you for constantly having the conversation with yourself about how you can be of higher service through taking care of your health in deeper levels.

Speaker 1 Not being perfect and obsessive necessarily, but just going going deeper and deeper and seeing how can i serve greater in the world through being more greedy with myself

Speaker 1 um through the health journey and really taking advantage of the moment to transform your life over these next six months

Speaker 1 so that this time christmas eve you are reflecting 12 months back and seeing how much you transformed

Speaker 1 and how far you've come and how much greater of an impact you've been able to make in the world and the father you are becoming to your kids through this partnership of your future self.

Speaker 1 So I want to acknowledge you for the courage you're having and the steps you're taking. Not perfect, but progressing in a beautiful way.

Speaker 1 And then I'm excited to see, I want you to text me, maybe not Christmas Eve, but sometime in the hall that is.

Speaker 1 and say, here's where I'm at. Here's where I'm at.
After the last 12 months. Yeah.
Done. And I want to see, that's that's your challenge for me.
I like it.

Speaker 4 I feel like I got the school of greatness experience here.

Speaker 1 You've gotten a taste of it, man.

Speaker 1 Final question.

Speaker 1 What is your definition of greatness?

Speaker 4 My definition of greatness is

Speaker 4 that you made the most with what you've got. That you make the most with what you got for self and others.

Speaker 4 So that you because we're all we're all born with different circumstances and that you can truly you you look at what you you look at what you did and said all things considered i made the most with with what i've got um and that i i played a role in being part of this this tapestry you know this tapestry that's that's unfolding make it a dent made i made a dent in the universe made a dent daniel appreciate you

Speaker 4 that was great thanks so much

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