Ep 3: Telepathic Communication between friends and groups

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My son said to me, I can hear thoughts.

What is this phenomena happening?

Why are his mind and my mind completely connected?

Telepathy is the tip of the iceberg with their spiritual gifts.

People don't understand that they can do this, they don't even have to be in the same room, the same zip code.

For decades, a very specific group of people have been claiming telepathy is happening in their homes and in their classrooms.

And nobody has believed them.

Nobody has listened to them.

But on this podcast, we do.

Welcome to the third episode of the Telepathy Tapes.

Today we'll delve into how prevalent this phenomenon is and whether telepathy extends beyond a parent and child connection.

After meeting Akhil, my questions started changing.

I was no longer asking if telepathy was possible, but started asking how it was possible.

I was reading stacks of books and digesting dozens of articles, and I was fascinated to learn that people have been researching and testing telepathy in earnest ever since the 1880s.

And when radio waves were first sent across the Atlantic Ocean in 1901, Marconi amazed the world by sending and receiving wireless messages 3,000 miles across the Atlantic.

The idea that telepathy might be a type of radio signal started to seep into the ether.

The acclaimed author Upton Sinclair even wrote the book Mental Radio, showcasing telepathy experiments he's done with his wife.

And while researching radio waves one night, I stumbled across this amazing story.

I had some dental work to be done, you know, they put in temporary fillings.

This is beloved Starlet, Lucille Ball, sharing a story from around the time of World War II when she had to get several temporary fillings put in the upper and lower parts of her mouth.

This particular night was about 1:15, and I was driving alone, and all of a sudden I heard music and I looked down to turn off my radio and it wasn't on.

I turned around and looked to see if there's anyone behind me and the music was getting louder and louder and louder and I realized it was in my mouth and it was

beating in my ears.

Yeah, I could hear the tune and everything.

I recognized the tune and then it started to fade out.

So the next day I mentioned it.

at the studio to Buster Keaton.

And he said,

what street were you on, Moore Park?

And I said, yes.

He said, you went by the radio station.

You picked it up.

Were you got any fillings?

I said, yes.

He said, you picked it up on your teeth.

Though she tried to hear the music again over the next few nights, she never did.

However, about five nights later.

I was going up another street.

I heard...

And I'm picking it up on my teeth.

And I backed the car up and it got stronger and stronger.

And I kept on backing it up until it really got strong.

And my whole jaw was vibrating.

She had picked up a Morse code transmission from an underground Japanese station.

Honest to God.

And Lucille Ball wasn't the only person who claimed this had happened to them.

In fact, there's many accounts out there.

Andrea Puharch, a researcher, medical inventor, and physician who was studying ESP in the mid-1900s, found a man who had been admitted to a psychiatric ward for hearing voices.

The man had worked in a machine shop.

When they analyzed his metal fillings, they were coated with carborundum dust, a semiconductor.

He was picking up radio signals.

The man's teeth were cleaned and the voices stopped.

These stories simply suggest that under the right conditions, our brain can act as a receiver of radio signals, which leads the curious among us to wonder, well, what else can the brain do?

And one of these curious people is the mother I meet next.

Her name is Katie.

and she's based in Georgia.

Dr.

Diane received her first email from Katie a few weeks after I had returned home from meeting Akhil.

Katie said telepathy is a shared reality amongst many in their Atlanta-based community.

They're open about it.

Not only this, but Katie noted that she's met dozens of parents who say their kids telepathically communicate with each other.

I asked Dr.

Diane if she could set up a phone call with Katie so I could meet her and her son Houston.

How are you?

Hi, Houston.

Hi, Katie.

On the Zoom, Houston is sitting next to his mom, Katie.

We talk for well over an hour, getting to know each other.

And Katie's transparent about the fact that many spellers and their parents are reticent to share their stories and let in outsiders because there have been so many gotcha moments collectively throughout the past 40 years.

Houston starts to write something on his letterboard.

During the Zoom call, he's been patiently sitting next to his mom, Katie.

When he communicates, Katie holds the letterboard perfectly still, and Houston points to letters with his finger.

Having my

story

told

and

how I

want

to

tell it

is

so

important

to me.

We talk about the importance of Houston sharing his unfiltered truth.

And by the end of the call, we are all excited about the prospect of Dr.

Diane Powell and myself heading down to Georgia to do some telepathy tests.

I asked Katie and Houston if they'd be okay if I brought a small camera crew, and they said that was fine.

And before we get off the call, I sheepishly ask about Katie's letter to Diane.

So, Houston, your mom communicates something to dr powell and i'm just wondering if you can read your friends minds katie picks up the letterboard for houston and he writes

definitely

all

of us

talk

to

each

other

it's

called

the

talk

on

the hill.

It's not the talk on the hill.

They all talk to each other.

Think of it like a channel.

Like they all turn to this channel at a certain time and they all communicate.

And they don't have to be in the same room at all?

They don't have to be in the same zip code.

This felt like an astounding breakthrough in the unraveling mystery of telepathy that was starting to consume my life.

And I wanted to get down to Georgia immediately to understand this more.

I talked to Dr.

Diane and she did a separate Zoom call with Houston to do some remote telepathy tests to make sure it would be worthwhile for her to go down and test Houston.

After both of our separate Zoom conversations, we are both in agreement that visiting Katie and Houston would be worthwhile and circumstantial in our quest to understand this better.

Beyond that, Houston has buddies in Georgia that he telepathically communicates with on the hill, and Katie was excited to introduce us to some of those families as well.

Dr.

Diane thought we should also bring Dr.

Jeff Tarrant with us down to Atlanta.

Dr.

Tarrant is the QEEG specialist who conducted Mia's brain scan in episode one.

However, we learned something in the last episode, which is this might not just be sheer telepathy.

It might be more of a merging of a consciousness.

And if that's true, we need Jeff to ideally scan both Katie and Houston's mind at the same time to understand the phenomenon in a more concrete way.

I hopped on the phone with Jeff to find out if there was equipment like this out there and if it's something that we could make happen.

I've got a friend who builds EEG equipment and software.

I've been talking with him about hyperscanning.

Hyperscanning is a technique that allows the simultaneous recording of brain activity in different subjects.

Jeff's friend is able to build a hyperscanner that we can bring with to Atlanta.

So we will be able to simultaneously record two people.

In the future, we'll be able to do a whole group.

Before showing up on her doorstep, I want you to start to get a picture of who Katie is.

Katie can best be described as a resilient, steadfast warrior.

She married a handsome jock who turned out to be horribly abusive.

Five kids later, she escaped him and was left to fend for herself as a single mom.

The trauma and struggle she endured was made even more difficult because her oldest son, Houston, started slipping away around 10 months.

Every day there was less and less and less of him until the point where he didn't seem to be with us.

Back then it took a very long time to get a diagnosis and when you finally got a diagnosis it was a death sentence.

It was labeled as severe autism, completely non-speaking.

And they tell you that there is no hope.

Katie lived through years of loneliness and turbulence and hopelessness.

And though it's hard, I want to immerse you in it because it makes the reality that she's living today that much more magnificent.

Houston was always running when he was young.

You could hardly catch him.

He never stopped moving.

He seemed tortured.

And yet there would be these moments where you would see him finding delight, like the movie Flubber.

He would put his hands on his belly and throw himself back and laugh.

And I'm like, you can't have that, that much joy and not be in there, as they told me.

And yet every year there's a whole nother set of psychology tests and exams and evaluations to reinforce that if you haven't already given up, you need to.

And beyond the logistical frustrations that Katie felt navigating Houston's diagnosis, everything was compounded by a shrinking social reality.

It's so isolating because we have to essentially live our lives in a way where we don't bother other people.

And it's not just you, it's all your kids are living this outcast life.

You're not included in any part of society, not in school, not in church, not out in community, even in the grocery store.

You're a nuisance.

There's nowhere for you to go.

It took me a very long time to give up hope.

A part of me breaks inside to give up.

And though it broke her to her core to do it, she gave up on Houston.

But what what happened next is profound.

Houston did not let her.

Houston was 17 years old.

I was working three jobs at the time and I came home the night before Thanksgiving and I was so tired that my body was literally vibrating and I was laying there and I just wanted to nap.

Houston came downstairs and sat at my feet, which he had never done before in his life.

And he sat there completely still.

And this is someone who's in literally 24 hours a day motion.

And then all of a sudden, he reached over and very intentionally tugged at the blanket, just like you would to get someone's attention.

And he said,

Mama.

And I was shocked because I had never, ever heard my son say my name.

He was 17.

And I opened my eyes and he was looking directly into my eyes, which he had also never done.

And he said, I love you.

I was speechless.

And so I was essentially given this opportunity.

I could keep not believing that there was any hope, or I could believe in a miracle.

And so I decided in that moment I was going to believe in a miracle.

When we arrive in Atlanta, there was a big grip truck with film equipment on it and lots of crew members milling about outside of Houston and Katie's house.

And I'm instantly worried about how this is going to impact Houston.

I rush into the house and try to to find him.

And Katie and Houston are by the door greeting people.

They are effusively loving and joyful and calm amidst the chaos of a crew descending on their home.

Katie shows me around their house and Houston heads upstairs.

After a minute, Katie and I go up there to find him.

Houston's bedroom has rocks and stones and crystals everywhere.

Wow, Houston.

This is incredible.

I asked Katie how his passion for collecting stones started.

A friend of mine gave me three stones and when she gave them to me, she said she had prayed over them.

So this was very strange to me.

I'm an evangelical Christian, and

this was just not part of my practice and my faith.

So I really didn't know what to make of this.

I took them home and I was in my bathroom and I heard the bedroom door slam open and then the bathroom door slammed open and Houston started shouting, stones, stones, stones.

And he wouldn't stop.

And so I just was like, here, take them.

I mean, I didn't know what to do with them.

So anyway, I went into his room a little bit later and he had lined these three stones up on his bedside table on the very edge.

And he was lying on the very edge of his bed as close as he could get to these stones.

I was completely baffled by this scene.

I said to him,

Houston, what's all this?

He sat straight up and and he started spelling.

When you're Autistic, you're a magnet for all energy, good and bad.

These stones have good energy.

I need more good energy.

Katie also told me a story about buying her other son a pair of dice made out of gemstones for Christmas.

Right when they arrived, she wrapped them up and hid them.

When Houston got home from school, he immediately went and found the box, saying that he could feel the energy of the rocks coming from it.

All this said, Katie leaned into Houston's love of stones.

Houston was sitting on his bed holding one of his enormous quartz crystals.

I asked him why he loved stones, and he wrote,

All

the

living

things

I see

and

hear.

That includes stones,

plants,

animals, trees,

like

all of it.

I couldn't imagine the sensory overload that must flood his brain.

When I started doing some investigating, I found out that stones have a very unique set of traits.

They have piezoelectric energy, which means it can transmit mechanical to electrical energy and electrical to mechanical.

I found out that each stone actually has a hertz that can actually be measured.

I googled this myself, and it's true.

All elements have a frequency or set of frequencies at which they vibrate.

The fact that Houston is more keyed into these frequencies may be a clue into how and why telepathy is possible.

He's experiencing essentially a greater spectrum of the electromagnetic spectrum.

He could feel all these different wavelengths.

Katie is a voracious reader and researcher.

This here is just a small insight into the lengths that she's gone to try to understand how telepathy works.

Houston's bedroom felt great and I could tell that he felt safe and good in there.

So I asked Michael, my cameraman and cinematographer, to go grab some of the crew so that we could start filming.

But before we started filming, Katie prayed for the shoot.

We prayed for your protection.

And she prayed for the camera crew and me and Dr.

Powell.

The other scientists that are all working with us so that we can share these incredible gifts with the world.

And I think it's really important to mention that Katie had lost her faith completely, having suffered for years, being beat down by a life that just wouldn't quit.

The only reason she gained it back was by experiencing what she can best describe as miracles.

Miracles involving her son Houston.

Then we hung out and chatted a bit.

Where we left off in Katie's story, Houston had just said, Mama, I love you, in a moment of still clarity that shook her to her core.

I didn't care what the experts said.

I'd been given one little moment of miraculous, and that's what I wanted for my whole life.

I wanted to know my son.

And if he could sit there and look me in the eyes, say my name, and tell me that he loved me, I knew there was hope.

I had met with this psychologist and

he said, have you ever heard of RPM?

RPM stands for rapid prompting method.

And it's one of the methods of spelling, which allows non-speakers to communicate by pointing to letters.

And I was like, nope, never heard of it.

He printed off a sheet and he gave me a mom's number and he said, go talk to this mom.

Her son communicates this way.

He's like, Houston.

And I was like, there's no way.

All right, sure, I'll go talk to her.

And she's showing me these pages and pages of things that her son has written.

And I'm like,

her son must not be that severe.

My son had the kind of autism where you smeared feces, where you ran away, where he screamed, where he would run around naked all the time.

Houston had no control and no way to communicate to us.

So, for her to tell me that her son was doing all this, I thought the explanation was he has more control over his body.

Like many parents I meet who have been told for years their kids aren't in there, the thought of teaching them to communicate felt like a fool's errand.

Beyond that, spelling is not taught in most schools.

And given her situation, it must have felt almost impossible to put money and time, the scarcest resources in her life, behind something she didn't believe was possible.

Katie did a bit more research.

We had a friend that uses RPM to communicate, and I went to visit him and literally sat there in absolute shock as he spelled out the answer to every single question that I asked him.

I was

heartbroken because I realized that my son was in there too.

And he'd been trapped for over two decades and never given this opportunity to have a voice so the things that

he had lost out on because

i had i because i didn't know and because i listened to all the experts and and how i had failed him those were my initial thoughts followed by i have to know my son

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I went home, I walked right up to Houston's bedroom, opened the door, and I looked at him and I said, Houston, I'm getting you a voice.

And he had this, he looked at me with the strangest look.

I was

absolutely resolute that this was going to happen.

And it did.

They worked hard.

It wasn't easy.

It took practice and patience and commitment.

But at the age of 21, Houston wrote his first full sentence on his letterboard.

I sat there in shock

as my son spelled

I'm in here

on this board.

She holds up a black board with stencil letters punched out of it.

The board is no bigger than a piece of computer paper and it is surreal to think that this piece of plastic was the key to unlocking an entire human being.

Yeah, changed our lives.

My hope, which had been sputtering along, now it had gasoline.

And so it was explosive in our lives to get my son everything that had been taken from him.

Like all parents in Katie's situation, they go through a period of discovering who their kid is and what they know.

I began to find out that my son knew far beyond what they would teach in a classroom.

A lot of history, a lot of important events and spiritual knowledge as well.

He had never had any education at all.

So I didn't understand how he could know so much.

It's important to note that Houston, like thousands of non-speakers around the world, are not taught as if they're smart.

They're often taught preschool lessons like colors and shapes on repeat, even through high school.

He was denied any education because they assumed, based on the fact that he can't control his body, he has no understanding of it.

To quickly interject here, if you have a hard time coordinating motor function and regulating your body, testing behavior is not a good way to test intelligence.

It's almost like testing a blind person's intelligence by asking them to read.

And this is what Katie's getting at.

Houston was denied an education because people were judging his behavior and assuming he wasn't smart.

And when he began to explain, he had to teach himself to read.

And not just him, but his friends, they would all find incredible ways to educate themselves.

If one of them learned something, they would all teach each other.

But how could they teach each other

if they couldn't communicate?

I was confused by that.

How do you all have conversations when none of you can speak?

And he explained that they all have unique gifts and that they are able to communicate to each other telepathically.

But before exploring the idea that non-speakers can communicate with each other telepathically, I wanted to understand how Katie came to believe her son was telepathic at all.

She grew up in a very conservative community and family, and things like telepathy were not ever considered possible.

So, can you take me back to the very first moment when he first revealed he could read your thoughts and just what your reaction was?

That had to be just really

upsetting,

terrifying.

He'd been just giving me this incredible amount of information.

And one of my sons was questioning, how does he know all this?

And being very critical.

And I was upset with him for being so critical and not believing in his brother.

But the question still remained, how was he learning?

The question that I asked him was, how did you learn all of this?

Do you have really good hearing?

And he said, I'm special.

And I said, oh, of course you're special.

I'm sure he was rolling his eyes in his head.

And he said, I can hear thoughts.

And I said, bullshit.

I did not believe him.

And I questioned him.

And I said, are you sure you're telling the truth?

And he said to me, you don't get the kind of gifts that I have if you lie.

So then I asked him a question in my head without speaking, and he answered the question that I had asked him in my head.

Then I brought my son and his friend up to witness it and I told the young man that was his friend, I said, get a thought in your head and sit there and don't think anything but that.

And Houston spelled out what that young man was thinking.

Then I called my daughter.

And she didn't believe me.

She said, no, he can't, mom.

I said, like, send me something.

So she had her husband tell her something to text.

She texted it to me.

He never saw the text and he spelled out what was on the text.

Did you ask him when his ability to hear thoughts started?

Houston said that he doesn't remember a time when he did not hear thoughts.

He also says that everyone with non-speaking and unreliably speaking autism

have this ability.

All.

He said it might differ in strength from one person to another, but they all have this gift.

So

can he hear the thoughts of everyone?

Well, yes.

So he can hear the thoughts of everyone, but if his anxiety is high, he cannot.

It's like the anxiety literally cuts off parts of their brain.

So it's a receiver issue.

Just like with a good radio signal, you have to remove all interference.

Anxiety is interference.

So it prevents him from hearing in those types of environments.

People's negativity and hatefulness have a huge impact on his ability to hear.

Crowds are very difficult, as you can imagine.

Because he's hearing everybody's.

That's hard.

You're hearing a thought, but you don't know who's responsible for the thought.

I've seen him several times, literally, like we'd be at the gym, and he would run into like a certain room and look around trying to figure out who had that thought.

I was eager to talk to Houston's brother about all of this.

Houston's brother is a Marine, and he had a tricky relationship with Houston growing up.

Houston demanded a lot of his mom, and she was stretched thin as it was.

And Houston's brother did not believe he was smart, and certainly did not believe Houston could read minds.

And though he was a little reticent to participate, I was able to get him to answer a few questions.

What really got me off guard was that he's actually in there.

And then what about the telepathy?

When you first heard about that, did you believe it?

Not at all.

I did not believe that he was telepathic in any sort of way.

It was just a very hard thing to convince me of.

Do you even believe it now that he can read minds?

I have seen it with my own eyes and it's just it kind of changed my mind a little bit.

But like how comfortable are you with this reality?

Do you talk to your friends about it, like from the Marines or from school?

And if yes, and they don't believe you, then how do you react?

What do you say?

I would ultimately just have them see it in person.

I'll bring Houston up to them and just tell him, hey, think of one little thing.

And he writes it out on the board.

So he's read your friends' minds.

He has read my friends' minds before.

I've seen it firsthand.

It's just incredible to see this kind of stuff.

Which brings me back to the telepathy tests.

The tests feel so important for the families, for the non-speakers, because it's a way for them to prove what they're saying is true.

We had the benefit benefit of having Dr.

Powell with us in Georgia, so our tests were a little bit more formal.

And Houston was okay with the lights around, with multiple cameras.

He felt very, very comfortable.

That said, I asked most of the crew who didn't need to be in the room to please leave.

Because if Houston could read almost anyone's thoughts, having a bunch of people in the room could really taint the tests.

Apparently, the production assistant on the shoot, Sam, was pretty bummed out that we asked him to leave the room.

He really wanted to see telepathy in person.

But don't worry about Sam.

We'll come back to him in just a bit.

All right, so anyone anyone who doesn't need to be in the room, like I said, please exit.

We're going to roll all cameras and get ready to go here.

Okay, so Diane, I just downloaded a new number generator on my phone.

So let's go ahead and use that.

Okay, here you go.

I think it's critical that Dr.

Diane isn't bringing her own cues.

That way there could be no collusion between her and the families, which again, I want to state, I don't think that would ever happen.

I have assessed Dr.

Diane's integrity around these tests, and it is unwavering and upright.

So for the first test, Dr.

Diane generates a number.

Okay, say action.

Okay, action.

Go ahead and generate.

Our main camera's vantage point is over Diane's shoulder.

So we can see Diane and we can see the number that's been pulled up onto the phone.

Katie and Houston are sitting across from her and then once the number pulls up Dr.

Diane leans over to show Katie the number.

Houston is not looking anywhere in particular.

Sometimes he's looking at the table, sometimes at the wall, sometimes at the ceiling, sometimes at his feet, and sometimes sometimes straight ahead.

And the number is 2220.

Okay, and go ahead and look, Katie.

After seeing the cue, Katie holds up the black letterboard, and Houston uses a pencil to point to the numbers, and he points quickly to the correct number.

2220.

Perfect, okay.

Dr.

Diane generates another number.

Okay, ready?

Yeah.

A three-digit number pops up, and she doesn't like that because collectively, I think we all agree it's just too easy.

You know, I want to generate a different number.

Okay, there we go.

The new number is 5096.

As Dr.

Diane pulls up the number and shows Katie, Houston is tracing his letterboard, which is on the table.

There's no way he could see the cue.

That's a five

and zero,

nine,

and six.

Perfect.

It's always so cool.

It never gets old.

It never does.

It never gets old.

It's just on me.

I love this moment because even Katie is laughing and saying it never gets old.

It just never gets old.

We took a break and something amazing happened to Sam, the production assistant, who was bummed out when we asked everyone to leave the room.

So while getting coffee, Sam expressed to Katie that he wished he could have seen Houston Read Minds.

I was told this story after the shoot, so I called Sam, very long distance, to hear it firsthand.

All right, so my name's Sam Green.

Coming into the house for the first time, I didn't really know what to expect.

I had a job to do, but I want to believe it.

I vocalized that to Katie.

But watching it and have it happen to you is two different things.

Katie had told me to write a word down.

I stepped into the garage away from Houston and Katie, who were in the living space.

I didn't have anyone around me.

I wrote the word friend on a piece of paper and I walked straight back in.

The whole thing took less than you know, 30 seconds from me leaving to returning and literally no one around me.

I walked in and I looked at Houston and in my head I'm saying my word is friend and before I could even finish the thought

Katie's there with the board and Houston's already spelling out F-R-I-E-N-D

and it was

an unbelievable experience but

I was part of it.

I felt it.

I witnessed it.

This interaction was very genuine and what we were filming was groundbreaking.

Before we sat down to do more tests, I asked Katie how she felt realizing that Houston had access to her private thoughts ever since childhood.

I had the horrifying realization that he had heard all of my thoughts, where I hated autism, all of my thoughts, where I was so angry, where I wanted to give up.

But the most heartbreaking thing that Houston had to hold were the sinister thoughts and crimes of others.

My ex-husband was an incredibly violent, abusive, and intentionally cruel man.

Houston had to hear his schemes and his plans.

The abuse wasn't limited to just me.

Katie's ex committed horrible crimes against another member of the family.

Katie didn't know about the horrific acts as they were occurring.

Only Houston did, because he could hear everyone's thoughts.

And it wasn't until Houston learned to communicate via via spelling that Katie finally found out what had happened.

He said, one of the hardest things was knowing all of this and not being able to stop it or tell.

He'd always wanted to be a hero, and because of his inability to control his body or communicate, he had not been able to tell us the truth or be the big brother he always wanted to be.

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After the break, we continued to do many more number generator tests.

And Houston is correct every single time.

And he's so quick.

The second he sees the number, it's like rapid fire.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

And then I wanted to do something different that we haven't done before.

Okay, so I'm pulling out this Uno deck.

This is something I brought from home.

Because Houston is minimally verbal, I thought it'd be cool if we pulled a random card from an Uno deck, and after his mom saw which number was on the card, Houston would vocalize it.

If you're new to Uno, the card deck is comprised of 76 different number cards in various colors, each with a single number on it.

So there are yellow cards one through nine, red cards one through nine, etc.

There's also wild cards and skip turn cards and plus two cards.

and I went through the deck to remove any of the cards that didn't just have a whole number on the front.

Okay, I think we're ready.

So Dr.

Powell, can you just walk us through this?

All right, this is just a random Uno deck.

I'd like to see if we can have him do both the number and the color.

Sure thing.

Okay.

Awesome.

Okay, maybe shuffle again, Dr.

Powell, please.

Yeah, I did shuffle it again, but I'll do this again.

All right, ready?

Ready.

Dr.

Diane Powell is standing directly behind behind Houston, and the card she selected from the deck was six blue.

Katie turns her head slightly to the left to see it, and there's no way that Houston can see the card.

Six.

There are two different boards in play here: one with letters on them and one with numbers.

So after Houston pointed directly to the six, now Katie's picking up the letterboard so he can spell the color.

E-B-L-U-E.

Six blue.

He's doing amazing.

He really is.

After I tested him online, I was like, this guy, we've got to come here because I knew it would be great.

Now we set up for another Uno test.

You ready?

She pulls a plus two from the Uno deck.

I gasp because I thought I pulled all of those out.

Oh, okay.

Plus.

Two.

That's amazing.

So he got the plus.

I was wondering, because I was looking at the two the whole time, and I saw his hand going somewhere else.

And that's Michael, the camera guy.

He was anticipating that Houston would be going right to the two.

So that's what he was focused on.

It was nice in the frame.

And he was shocked that his hand first went somewhere else.

Up to the plus.

Yeah, he went up to the plus.

We did a ton of Uno tests, and he was correct every single time.

I never know how many to put into the episodes because I don't want to bore people with a bunch of repetitive, accurate tests, but they are up on the website, thetelepathytapes.com.

If you want to see the visual tests yourself.

Let's do one more just because now I'm getting greedy.

Okay.

Wait, can we do this?

Rapid fire number.

Oh, sure.

Yeah.

Can we do that?

Yeah.

This new rapper.

I like the rapper.

All right, Houston.

This is, you know, the Grand Finale and Fireworks show.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, Dr.

Diane is going to pick a card and then another card and another card and another card.

And Houston's going to point to the number of the card that was pulled over and over and over again.

Dr.

Diane is still standing behind Houston, so there's absolutely no universe in which he can see the cue.

And Katie just has to look slightly to the left to see it.

Okay.

We ready?

Just the number.

Okay, you don't worry about color.

Okay, go ahead.

Two, two,

two.

Good.

Four, four,

one,

one.

Diane is standing about two to three feet behind Houston, and every single card she flips over, he points to the correct number as he verbalizes it.

Nine,

seven,

three.

The rapid fire test was jaw-dropping, and I think he could have kept going for hours if we wanted him to.

His patience with us was unbelievable and when I asked him about this later, he said it was so important for him to show the world what he could do.

After we did the number tests, we did some book tests.

I would hand a book to Dr.

Diane Powell.

She opens to a random page and then shows Katie the word or the phrase.

We wanted to test if Houston's telepathy could go beyond numbers.

Could he accurately decipher what his mom was reading in a book?

Instead of having me go through this test, I wanted to call someone else who was in the room.

In other episodes, you've heard from from Michael, my camera guy, who's been with me on every shoot.

And on this shoot, we had another camera operator in the room.

And I thought it'd be nice if she walked you through these tests from her perspective.

So my name is Shay Jones, and I was the local producer to handle the Georgia shoots portions of this.

Even in the prepping stage, in the planning stage, like you hear the word telepathy.

It's so hard to believe, right?

Okay, so can you explain where you were in the room and what you saw while we were doing the book tests?

Where I was with my camera, I was in the front left looking at Houston, and I was able to go behind Houston and see that there was no possible way for him to see what his mom was reading.

And we started it small, right?

So we started it with just a single word.

We never spoke out loud what word, what book, where we were getting it from.

So we would come in from behind, give it to the mom, and she read a word just in her head, not out loud.

And the moment she starts even looking down at it, Houston has the pencil and he's going through the letterboard.

And it was spot on every single time.

You not only get to watch it, get to watch, you know, Kai with you, how you approached it and made sure that we're doing this in every way to see if this is really happening in real time, you know, changing the different books, making sure that Houston wasn't able to see whatsoever what his mom was reading in her mind.

And to see not only, in real time that it worked, it never didn't work.

And then we slowly but surely were like, okay, well, what if we made it longer?

When we decided to make the tests longer, I also wanted to make them more difficult.

I looked around the room and I saw Katie's old English version of the Bible.

So I grabbed that.

What if it was a longer sentence and you would flip Kai to like a random page on the Bible and we would highlight a sentence and those are hard words.

And as soon as she starts reading it in her head, there he is again with the letterboard, getting it perfectly right, grammar-wise, spelling.

No one had to decipher it.

No one had to be like, oh, did he mean that?

He was spot on every single time.

To be a part of those tests was, I mean, it was life-changing.

It really was.

After all the testing, Houston took a much-needed break to relax, which gave Katie and I plenty of time.

to go through some of my questions.

Okay, Katie, so can you tell me more about this Talk on the Hill and how you found out about it?

He calls it the Talk on the Hill.

And it's where other non-speakers collaborate.

You think of it like a CB radio.

They all get on the same channel.

So they have these essentially group conversations where they all contribute.

And he said it works both ways.

They teach each other.

They share information.

They give hope to those who are being discouraged.

They pray for each other.

And yes, it is telepathic.

That might seem extraordinary, but if you realize that like phones and computers, we don't have to be in the same room or zip code.

And that's because it's electromagnetic energy.

And then Katie told a story which I was happy to hear because it validates some of the claims about the Hill.

I got a message from a mom in Utah whom I have never met.

Her son spelled out to her, Mom, Houston is my best friend.

Her nine-year-old son, whom we've never met, spelled that out.

And she

was like, How?

You know, it's because they're communicating.

That didn't make sense to me

until I did some more research.

And

thought is energy.

And it behaves just like energy.

It behaves actually very similarly to a radio wave.

And essentially, their brains work like Verizon cell towers, absorbing, transmitting, and receiving information.

Or Lucille Ball's teeth, picking up a radio show with perfect clarity.

Katie ends up becoming one of my most cherished and essential guides guides in this world, sending articles, recommending books, connecting me to other parents' ideas and thoughts.

And you'll hear from her regularly on this podcast.

And one thing that she hammered into my head is the power of thoughts.

That they are not just inconsequential, private, isolated bubbles in our own minds.

And here's a snippet from a phone call that Katie and I just had recently, where she walks me through the idea of thoughts as things.

So name something that's in front of you on your desk.

Okay, um, a fork.

A fork.

Okay,

what was that fork

before it was a fork?

Um,

gosh, I mean, I don't, stainless steel?

Well, it was a thought.

If no one had ever thought of a fork, would it exist?

No.

No.

No.

And that's when I realized that thoughts become things.

Everything

was a thought before it became a thing.

After I got to know Katie and witness her intelligence and curiosity, I told her she could have been anything, anything in the world.

A successful lawyer or consequential physicist, a best-selling author, a life-changing professor.

literally anything in the world.

Her mind and her ferocity and her intelligence are just so sharp and special.

And she responded to this comment by gracefully noting that her most important work, however, is taking care of Houston.

By the end of our first two days in Georgia, we had conducted dozens more telepathy tests, each more conclusive than the last.

We conducted QEEG tests with the hyperscanner, which provided some fascinating data, which we will analyze in depth in a future episode with Dr.

Tarrant.

The crew witnessed Houston reading minds like parlor tricks, and the proverbial hill loomed larger in my understanding, a mysterious connection that I could no longer dismiss.

Yet for the sake of these remarkable spellers and their families, I needed more than belief.

I needed proof.

If they are truly tapping into a telepathic chat room, then our understanding of humanity, our profound interconnectedness, and our untapped potential could be on the brink of a seismic shift.

In the next episode, we remain in Georgia, where we'll meet Houston's good friend John Paul and his mother, Libby.

If The Hill is a real thing, John Paul should know about it too.

But what he ends up teaching us about interconnectedness is beyond anything I could have ever imagined.

Thank you to my amazing collaborators.

Original Music was created by Elizabeth P.W.

Original logo and cover art by Ben Kendor Design.

The audio mix and finishing by Sarah Ma.

Our amazing podcast coordinator, Jill Pachesnik, the Telepathy Tapes Coordinator and My Right Hand, Catherine Ellis, and I'm Kai Dickens, your writer, creator, and host.

Thank you again for joining us.

Remember that you can review some of the tests and see some of the film recordings on our website, thetelepathytapes.com.

Thank you so much for tuning in and join us next week as this world expands and deepens.