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I came back with a sinus infection. I had it for two weeks.
I finally went in. I don't believe antibiotics ever help sinus infections.
I've had my sinuses operated on. I guess if you count the insertion capsules, they put in two or three times.
And they gave me doxycylin. Don't take graphic, please.
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Victor's alive and he's two arms tied behind his back or half his brain tied behind his back. He can beat up anyone when it comes to scholarly thoughts.
Victor, you have some thoughts you want to share.
In addition to what you've already discussed with Sammy, what are they? You know, I was curious because everybody says this is the end of Trump and everything. So I looked at the Harvard-Harris poll.
I'm speaking on a Sunday, and he's gone from 1% approval to 49, 46. he's still approval and he's been subject
to things
that make, you know, it's kind of like the sensationalism of Russian collusion or laptop disinformation or lawfare. It's been incredible, the psychodramas.
So I was trying to think, why is he doing... And then I started looking at some data, Jack.
When Trump came in in 2017,
the stock market was about
19,000. Even after this
precipitous... Is it 10% down
from the first of the year? I think it is.
The total losses, or is it
13%? Anyway,
the point I'm making
is that they went up
65%
under Trump.
I don't know. 13%.
Anyway, the point I'm making is that they went up 65% under Trump, even with COVID, 55% under Biden. And even with their sudden losses, they're right now on 38, 37,000.
They're double what they had just nine years ago. Double.
Second data point, wages had gone way up for the first time in 12 years under Trump. They just skyrocketed.
$10,000, the average wage index rose under Trump's four years. And then they, because of the inflation, nothing that Biden did, but the general inflation of wages to catch up with prices under Biden, they went up another 6,000.
So they went up about 30% from 50,000 to 61. Okay, or something not that quite high, 25%.
But here's my point. Wall Street is going crazy and angry about the tariffs that are designed to help workers, whether they will or not, I don't want to get into.
But they, in this period, have doubled, they have 100% gain, and the workers have only had about a quarter of that or a third of that. And they're not saying, well, wait a minute.
They got all this money, and I want to double my wages. They didn't.
So the other thing about it is, why didn't his popularity collapse? Powerline had a good footnote today, Jack, and it quoted Business Insider of last year. and they pointed out maybe one of the reasons is that 10% of the American population own 93% of the stocks.
So what we're watching is the media, legal, political, academic, investor, trader, corporate class, paranoid, because their 100% profit, their 100% profit is now 90% profit. In other words, the stock market is where it was on January 1st, two years ago, 2023.
So all the money we got, I mean, even with inflation, we haven't really lost purchasing power to that degree. And then the other thing is, if the 1% own 93% of the stocks, the 50%, Jack, they own 1%.
1%. So they're not upset.
They know that the stock market is very critical to their well-being, whether they're participating or not, because it's a barometer of American... And their pensions, some of them.
Pensions. But I'm talking about everything.
Most people don't have a 401k, or maybe 60%, but 50%, only... What I'm getting is they only own 1% of the stocks in the whole market, 50% of America.
So their pensions are pretty paltry. And so this is a class thing.
And what is Trump trying to do? He's trying to appeal to a particular class that was told by Joe Biden, you've got to go. If you can go down in that mine and you can program or he'll, you know, whether you like it or not, we're going to put you in the coal business out of business.
Or Peter Strzok, I went to Walmart and I smelled these guys. Or the dregs, garbage, you know, irredeemable.
That whole vocabulary, that whole people, they're not, they're the ones that elected Trump and pretty much Trump is at 50%. I don't believe some of the crazy polls.
And this is after the worst press a president can get,
which begs the question, why is he doing this?
Why is he taking this risk?
Bush didn't.
Bush had tariffs.
Reagan had tariffs.
Biden had tariffs.
Clinton had big tariffs. Nobody got angry.
You know, I went back and looked at some quotes, Jack. Nancy Pelosi said, this free trade with China is a job loser.
You know what Paul Krugman said about protection tariffs? There's a lot to be said for Merkelism. And you know what Warren Buffett wrote in 2003? It's about time we stop this huge trade deficit because they're buying land and everything, investments.
So it's mostly because Trump's fingerprints are on the tariffs that people are upset. Why did he do it? He wants to get...
In Trump's mind, Jack, if a country runs up a big deficit and what he calls is disrespected or ripped off, then they have no respect and people will... They can't deter people.
They have no influence. If they're tough and they demand equity from their friends and neutrals, then people respect them abroad.
Then second, if he can cut $500 billion out of Doge this year, I can't do a trillion like they say, but if he did $500 trillion, if he can deregulate and cut taxes and grow the economy, if he can get $4 trillion and maybe 20 million jobs out of that foreign investment, if he can get $500 billion out of revenues, he thinks he can get close to balancing the budget in a year or two, and that will calm the bomb markets, etc. Then the second thing is he's willing to negotiate, and it's like musical chairs.
If you don't want to negotiate, and everybody else is, the only way he'll lose is if they all get together. Japan goes to China and says, we represent the Asian community, Mr.
Chi, and can we stand solid together? That's not going to happen. It's more like every man for himself.
If you're the last guy when the music stops, you have no chair. Because everybody's cut a deal, and you demand high tariffs, and you're not going to be competitive.
And he knows that. So it's working its way out.
The other thing is, he's equating it with military, too. In his view, all the countries that don't make the NATO countries, there's still eight of them, you know.
And Spain, for example, 1.3%. I mean, don't make the 2%.
Yeah, Canada, 1.37%.
So in his view, they're the ones running surpluses with us.
They're running surpluses because they don't spend anything.
And so he's also looking at dollars going out of the United States.
And he looks at Mexico, he sees $63 billion in remittances. He says cartel going out $20 billion.
He says he sees $171 billion outflow. It's a quarter of a trillion dollars going to the Mexican economy from us.
And you've got a lot of people right in the town that I'm living, because I see them at the store. They pay with EBT cards, and then they pull out all this cash to buy non-EBT covered foods.
And I think those are the people who are sending the remittances to Mexico or Central America. And Trump is saying we're sending too much money out of the country.
And it's not just the investment that I'm after for assembly and manufacturing, it's what they're doing.
The Chinese are buying strategic land near military bases.
The Middle East are buying professorships and curricula
in our elite universities.
They're inflating the price of homes in Los Angeles
and everything with these third and fourth homes.
It's not always good for us.
Don't monitor that type of foreign investment. So he has a lot of reasons that he's doing this.
And finally, I have to be very careful. My Wall Street friends, whom I dearly love.
But they should... I would ask Wall Street this, Jack, have any big recession or depression?
I can name the two biggest ones that I call the 1929 Great Depression that lasted a decade and the 2008 meltdown. As I recall, they were not due to tariffs.
They were due to what? Greedy Wall Street speculators who were buying on the margin during 19 all during the 20s oblivious to how germany was inflating its currency how oblivious to how we were loaning money to germany so that germany could pay france and britain so france and britain could pay their loans back. It was a crazy cycle.
And that speculation blew up.
And how did the two and Britain, so France and Britain could pay their loans back. It was a crazy cycle.
And that speculation blew up.
And how did the 2008, was it all those terrible?
No, it was not.
It was subprime mortgage securitization that the Wall Street people loved.
And they were trading all of these speculative huge mortgages that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae had stupidly, on their prompt, allowed to happen. So I can't think of one recession or depression that was caused by excessive tariffs.
And so I just wish Wall Street would stop quoting. I mean, every time I pick up the Wall Street Journal, there's a Smoot-Holly Act.
Smoot-Holly Act. Smoot-Holly Act.
Smoot-Holly Act. Smoot-Holly Act.
It did not cause a depression. It came after the stock market.
It was punitive. It was preemptive.
It came at a time of a huge surplus in trade. There was no need for it.
It has nothing to do with these tariffs. If you want to talk about tariffs, talk about the Biden and Obama tariffs.
They were similar. Okay, that's what I wanted to say.
Well, that was quite the mouthful and an appropriate lead-in for this note here. We're going to get back to your thoughts in a second, but first, here's an important message for anyone concerned about their financial future, and I think that might be anyone in America today.
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I saw a clip of him from the last day or two, and it was an interesting thing. He wasn't hanging tariffs on this, but he said, you know, last year was record travel of Americans to Europe.
And at the same time, though, there are people with full-time jobs who are now increasingly having to rely on local food pantries for basic foodstuff. So there's a disparity here.
I don't think he's begrudging Americans who take vacations to Europe. I did last year with my wife.
But there is this need to address the lower 50% and lower economically, as you brought out before. Yeah, people, they don't have stock, so maybe they're also not worried so much about, as I am, what's happening in my 401k.
So anyway, that was a point that he made. That's a very good point.
I see it all around me. And you know, another thing that people haven't related to that, Jack, if you stop 10,000 people of the poorest people in the world coming in every day, and that's at the rate they came in at 12 or 13 million over the Biden, forget about finding them all.
Just stopping it will mean less money going out from the federal, local, and state governments and their health care. When I had this flu and sinus infection, I called up a local group, and they said, I really had a fever and everything, and they said, I'm in Thursday, five days from now.
I said, okay. And then I called my GP, and I got an appointment for a checkup.
You know when it is? In July. And I went to my urologist and they said, sorry, your appointment's the wrong day and you can come two months, even though I showed up the day they sent me.
And what was the common denominator? There was thousands of people in Central California who were here illegally, and they have no health care, and the state has $8 billion shortfall in Medicare, Medi-Cal, and 40% of the state is on it, and you have to take them because they need help. And they have swamped all of these services.
So if you stop that influx, you're going to save a lot of money, and it's going to help Americans. Because Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden do not have to wait in the waiting room with 40 people who just arrived here from Venezuela or Colombia or Mexico.
Oh, they don't even have to wait for haircuts. So if you're Nancy Pelosi, just do whatever the hell you want.
I love Nancy Pelosi's lecture. I saw you again and again and again where she gives that big.
She looked pretty good. She was about 55 and she was screaming about the George W.
Bush outreach to China and that she was a working class protectors and we have to have tariffs it was pretty good so was bernice he wants tariffs then so did warren buffett he wanted tariffs so did uh paul krugman as i said yeah well uh on that note by the way victor you're mentioning of of medicare medicaid um fraud or abuse uh is a perfect jump go off point for the next topic we should get your take on. And that has to do with Doge investigation of Social Security and not only how it affects illegal use of our medical system, but also our election integrity.
And we'll get your thoughts on that. And I don't know, fencing and 5% defense expenditures that Marco Rubio is talking about, maybe another topic or two when we come back from these important messages.
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We're back with the Victor Davis Hanson show recording on Sunday, April 6th. And this episode is up on Tuesday, April 8th.
And we are blessed because Victor is alive and he is not delirious. So thank you for all those things.
Good God in heaven. Victor, the dots connect here on the Doge investigation.
investigation'm sure you saw, and I believe any number of our listeners or viewers have seen, Elon Musk and one of his minions, I forget the guy's name, but they were on a stage. They look at the amount of people that, the border illegals, who are now in the social security system, and then how many of them are on, immediate, on taking advantage of our healthcare system.
And then, out of curiosity, they compared some of these illegal citizens, I'm sorry, non-citizens, illegals, with the voting rolls in several states, and of course found any number of people registered and that they had voted. So...
The whole point, though, wasn't it? Yeah. We all knew that.
We all knew that they did two things, they being the left. They took Soros, Zuckerberg, all of those PAC Foundation money in 2020, and then they said, oh, we're going to lose COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID.
We have to change the voting laws in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina. And they did.
And they said, you know, we're only going to have 30% of the electorate showing up. Well, they'll have to show an ID.
But the other people, early and mail-in voting. And then if you look at the actual numbers, it's about 60% were Democrats, 65%.
So 70% of the electorate voted for the first time not at the polling station, and of that 70%, over 60% were Democrats. And that was initiated because we had about 30 million illegal aliens here then.
And a lot of them felt, well, I can tell you that our DMV in California just announced nonchalantly a few years ago, we mailed out 100,000 motor voter registration forms to non-citizens. So everybody knows they're voting.
That was the whole point of the open border, to bring in 12 million people who needed radical social attention, cultural subsidies, economic, housing, food, health, and then a larger government and then higher taxes,
more federal employees to address that, more claims of, look at the poverty rate. We've imported 12 million people.
They don't have Teslas. This is unfair.
And then they're going to vote. Everybody knew that.
And the left always has these little preemptive tropes they use. Have you ever mentioned that, that they would vote? That's racist.
You're part of the great replacement theory nut. And then they would write books like Demography is Destiny and The New Democratic Majority.
Remember when they cared about election integrity? Remember with Dinesh D'Souza because he made an excessive payment to a New York State candidate, and he actually was convicted, and the torment he was put under. Well, we all know it's not a— I remember when they felt also, to your point, that if there was some violence going on in a protest, and somebody was walking nearby or was accompanying them in the general vicinity, they were party to the violence on January 6th.
So we locked up about 400 people that had no participation at all. But then I noticed that when you're at a university and they're breaking in and destroying things and you're right next to them screaming and yelling with an illegal mask on,
you're just a bystander. You're not responsible for the violence.
One last Doge thing, Victor. It doesn't have to do with Social Security, but a random bit of corruption they found.
Dojong covers VA's agreement to pay $380,000 a month for minor website
monitoring. bit of corruption they found.
Dojo covers VA's agreement to pay $380,000 a month for minor website modifications.
I saw that.
Yeah, and now this work is being executed by one internal VA software engineer
who's spending less than 10 hours a week.
What is that, $3 so, what is that?
$380 a month. This is $4 to $5 million.
Just like that. I think, Victor, your thoughts on this.
We all remember William Proxmire and giving out the monthly award, but, you know, it was seen as a lark and this is the way government, you know. But I think the population has, or the majority of the population has now embraced this.
Again, any time Elon Musk gets those geniuses, these sober, judicious, middle-aged guys that are very successful, and he puts them in a room and they conduct a seminar in sober and judicious terms with Brett Baer. The result is shocking, how brilliant these guys are and the fraud that they've uncovered.
But any time he gets on the stage with a chainsaw, it doesn't work. Any time Donald Trump gets that chart and he starts saying, these are what the tariffs are against us.
And these are our replies. And he's very instructive.
It works. Anytime he tweets out that tariffs are beautiful or Europe is pathetic, true that that is, he doesn't win as much.
So a lot of it is modality and tone. And that's really important, I think, to do that.
And I wish they could get the message out. We didn't, I keep reading that dead horse, we didn't want to do this.
You guys forced us to do it. You know, Canada, I thought they were running a $60 billion.
That was some of the figures, but I just looked at the reformulated. They're running $100 billion.
So all these Canadian guys are angry at Trump, and we hate Americans, and you think, well, you didn't even patrol your side of the border. You have a $100 billion surplus with your close friend that puts you under the nuclear shield, and you spend 1.3% on defense.
That's no friendship. He needs to say that, but in a polite way.
I think all Americans love Canada, and probably most Canadians love Americans. Did you see Peggy Noonan's piece? Yeah, I do too.
But I don't like them when they love us to death. Well, yes, I agree.
But did you see Peggy Noonan's Wall Street Journal piece, which goes, oh, our dear friends, and they landed at Juneau or Gold? I figure which beach Juneau or Gold. My advice, my reaction to that is.
I hope people are watching this podcast instead of listening. Which way is the wind blowing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. Well, let's get a little cultural now, Victor, for some of your thoughts.
And this has to do with fencing, which is a long-time Olympic sport. I did it once at UC Santa Cruz.
They had a great fencing team when I was a student. I tried it.
Well, I won't tell you you. Another day I'll tell you how the NYU fencing team ruined my wedding night in Worcester, Massachusetts.
That's another story. Another day, and it's a legitimate story.
But there was a fencing tournament, I believe, in Maryland, and Stephanie Turner, 31-year-old woman, took a knee. rather than fight, I'm going to say tranny, I don't know what to say, Redmond Sullivan, who I think had been fencing as late as December as a man and now is fencing as, and she was expelled from the tournament, and the USA fencing director, Damian Leifelt, turns out he is a big pro transsexual competition guy.
But I'm glad she did this. This is terrific.
I am too. And notice how the entire narratives are being flipped.
If you also parallel that with Pete Hexas' non-sexist new requirements,
especially for special forces in combat units, that everybody is required to do the same level of physicality. And there is no longer any contextualization or exception for women.
And the point of that is that when you're in combat, nobody really cares what your gender is. They do care whether you can carry a guy off the battlefield.
And so the subtext of those special Lloyd Austin exceptions for women was that women, apparently, in the Biden administration's view, needed to have different physical requirements because they could not compete on the same level. Obviously, given their muscular skeletal size is not that of men on average.
And so now we're told that women have bought into that. And they understand that.
So they don't want to fence. They don't want to play volleyball.
They don't want to with men because they will lose and get hurt. And that's very understandable.
And that is also why men that are in combat might not want to rely on the average woman that won't have the same physical strength. And it's no argument, women, to get some, you know, six-foot woman who works out, kind of like that Adam's Rib movie with Spencer Tracy and Catherine Hepburn in the courtroom.
They bring in a big weightlifting woman to show they're equal. But my point is, most women, and maybe if you take a weightlifting woman who's a professional weightlifter next to a spaghetti arm Antifa demonstrator, you can make your point.
But by and large, men in the military are physically stronger. I'm not saying they're smarter, but they're physically stronger, and you have to protect everybody.
But that's the argument has been won,
that I think most women realize now,
that they don't have the advantages in muscles and skeletal size, and they need to have their own protected turf.
I don't understand.
Why don't they have a special trans? Is it because they want to welch in and graft onto women's sports, and if they had their own trans league, they wouldn't, because since they're 0-0-1% of the population, it would just be a... If you were at a bar, Victor, what would the guy say? Because these guys are a bunch of losers, they can't win win as men and there's no women becoming transsexual and becoming men and competing in men's divisions and winning i mean this is this is and they're misogynist to a lot of them every argument they don't they will never answer any argument if you say if i'm a woman but i really think i'm a man but i was born with a musculoskeletal system that's female i can just change it and the next thing i know if i want to i can be a guard on the detroit lion that's not going to happen george flimpton biological woman and that means that you're going to have a disadvantage and that's why we don't hear one of you in male sports winning medals.
It doesn't happen. Do you remember, though, the hostility of that? I think she was number three.
She still may be in the L.A. Fire Department, the one that said, well, too bad.
If you're stuck in the wrong room and you're a big, fat guy and that woman can't drag you down the stairs, you deserve to die. When they fired the fire chief, I think something happened to her.
Yeah, her attitude was if you're a white male and you don't think I can carry you out, then it's your fault you get burned up. Yeah.
Wrong place, wrong time, sucker. Too bad.
Hey, Victor, let's get on one other cultural matter here here if i can only find my pen here we go um today's well there are more cultural matters to come but before we go to a break uh ricky shot has a column in today's new york post again we're recording on a sunday april 6th it's titled harvard university the ivy league teaching remed Math. Here's how it begins.
Harvard might be America's most elite university, but now it's offering remedial math classes. The school's math department is providing a new scale-back math class for freshmen who are apparently arriving on campus lacking, quote, foundational skills, end quote, in high school math basics like geometry and algebra it's not even it's not even trigonometry harvard is quick to blame these math gaps on pandemic learning losses but in truth administrators brought this mess on themselves by scrapping standardized testing requirements during the pandemic,
all in the name of equity. You know, Victor, you have talked about people you know in business seeing the value of the branding of these diplomas of these institutions having real meaninglessness when it comes to employment.
But that's after four years. This is even the beginning of four years.
They don't seem to me to be qualified for that university, but maybe they are. You wouldn't see this in Hillsdale, by the way.
Your thoughts? Everybody knows that, that these universities are existing on the fumes of their past glories when they had average admittance requirements of about 770 minimum on the SAT or straight A's from the top schools at 4.5, something like that with advanced place courses. And then after George Floyd, they all had to run to see who was the most virtuous all the college.
Oh, we're going to drop the SAT. No, we're going to drop the ACT.
No, we dropped it before you did. We're going to not rate high school GPAs.
Well, we did that last week. That's what they were in that frenzy because they're academics and they have no sense, no independent thinking because they're insecure people.
And who wouldn't be with lifetime employment in the faculty lounge? I mean, gosh, hanging around with young people all day. So they only had three choices, as I said.
They either had to inflate the grades, and Yale gives 80% A's. I think Stanford's is 75.
Or they had to water down the courses, and that's what these are, remedial courses. Or they have to introduce new ones.
Because if they don't, given their admissions, then you're going to be called a systemic racist because it's going to show up in your grading that the people who did not come in with an SAT score are predominantly non, I mean, they're DEI people. Not all, but a lot of them are.
And if you give them what they deserved in class, you're going to be in big trouble. And so they just don't want to die on the altar of standards.
And they're looking at a lot of stuff. Stanford was notified last week that they're going to, Marco Rubio, and he's been wonderful on this.
He doesn't even play around with the media. He just says, I don't want to hear it.
It has nothing to do with the First Amendment, nothing to do with any of the amendments. It's just a simple bureaucratic.
We give green cards and visas to people who say they're coming here either to work or to study. And we don't give them to engage in violent protest.
We don't engage in anti-Semitic, overt anti-Semitism. and we don't give visas to people who actively and unapologetically support a terrorist-designated organization like Hamas.
And they do that, and they've been deported. And one will encourage the others.
They said they're going to stop this. Well, I don't think so.
I think what I've seen instead on the campus is a quietude. Think about that.
But all of these, it's about money. And when you see J.D.
Vance hitting this topic and the people in the Senate, and I think they're going to get a 51% vote in the House, and I think they're going to tax them anywhere from 15% to 20 their end they're talking about uh 500 000 and down worth of endowment for every student some people want a million some people want less but a lot of these big places are going to end up paying a couple hundred million dollars minimum a year to the government donald trump is really wants revenue so he can balance the budget. And that's what he wants.
Well, he's going to tax the endowments. He's probably going to do things where they have to cover or post security for their student loan programs and get the government off of a trillion dollars in overdue loans.
So I think the universities aren't going to get any support. They pull very low now, and they don't get it.
All they do is give speeches to each other about how humane and morally superior they are to everybody, and they look at their product and they said, I tell you right now, if I walked across the Stanford campus, which I do when I'm up there, when I'm not fighting whatever I have, but when I'm up there, and I walk across that campus, if I stopped and said to five people, can you name the president during the American Civil the american civil war can you tell me anything about what d-day is would you please explain to me the pythagorean theorem and can you tell me what the difference between an ionic column and a doric column or what even ionic and doric mean or what's the pan parthel none of them would know it no it. They spent all this time in other things.
I'm not talking about the smart kids too, the people that took, you know, that were competitive. And the answer to all this is we should have had a Marshall Plan to go into K-12 and just say to people, we don't care about the teacher's union, let them die in the vine.
We're going to make a private academy, and we're going to have a classical curriculum. And where that has happened, it's worked.
But it's the teachers' unions. Well, I think the greatest indicator of your future is not whether you can take a math class at Harvard, but whether you can read at third grade level.
I don't think people can anymore. The reason I quit at Cal State Fresno after 21 years, I was assigning, I used to assign, I taught a class called Introduction to Western Humanities.
And it started with Homer and it went all the way to contemporary American novels.
But in the first part, I would have Iliad, Odyssey, Aeneid, maybe Tacitus or Livy, Herodotus, Thucydides.
About seven authors.
And by the end of that 21 years, I had two, the Iliad and the Aeneid. And people said they couldn't read them.
So what I used to do, Jack, is I would have a student who came in my office and said, I'm going to flunk your class because I can't read this thing. It doesn't make sense.
So I would say to them, would you read out loud the first page? Sing, God is the wrath of Achilles. Well, I don't know who Achilles is.
What does wrath mean? I have no idea what wrath means. And then buckler.
Well, that's a shield. Can you look it up? No, I don't ever use a dictionary.
And I said, would you read it out loud then? Just read it because you say you can't
read it. Read out loud.
And usually you can read about 180 words a minute. And I swear to God, it would take like 10 minutes to read a paragraph.
Nobody could read anything. And so I would ask them, you know, there's 600 pages 600 pages there's 1250 12 or 12 000 lines at the rate you're going this would take you three or four months and they said exactly they couldn't and this is 20 plus years ago right yes yes they cannot read they don't read they don't know how to write.
They don't know anything.
There's a small elite.
The elite that's invested in the stock market,
that's pretty much the same ratio that knows how to read in America.
And by age, I want to be careful.
The people who are working class people are probably better educated in their 50s and 60s
than today's elite at the elite campuses. They can read better, I think, maybe.
You know, Victor, I saw an NYU professor, and I forget his name. I made a note somewhere, but can't find it.
But he was going on about a point you've sort of raised in the past. The colleges with the big, we're talking before about taxing the endowments or the return on the investment, billion-dollar-plus endowment institutions that are small are essentially hedge funds that are running colleges and keeping their capacity small.
Now, there are places that, like Thomas Aquinas College, our friends out there, where you you max out with your actual capacity but there are many places that are not they could accept um an additional 100 or 200 students they have the money there but why aren't they spending the money on giving more people the allegedly greater education you can get at this i think great private college they're letting in about a million foreign students students, and they don't give them any foreign aid, I mean, student aid. They pay 110% in real dollars.
Yeah, so it's a business. I mean, it is a hedge fund.
All right, well, anyway, my friend, we have a couple of other topics to get your take on. You aforementioned Marco Rubio has some serious thoughts about increasing defense spending amongst by our allies and maybe a proxy voting fight in Congress.
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U.S. wants NATO and Canada to spend 5% of GDP on defense.
U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio asked allied foreign ministers gathered in Brussels on Thursday last week to increase their defense spending to 5% of their GDP, a very substantial increase for most members of NATO and considerably more than even the United States spends as a percentage of GDP.
We, quote, we do want to leave here with an understanding that we are on a pathway, a realistic pathway to every single one of the members committing and fulfilling, I promise, to reach up to 5% of spending, Rubio said from Brussels. Well, it's a tall order, Victor, as you just mentioned.
A lot of these places can't even get to that 2% commitment. But I thought that was going to be easy because, remember, Sturmer went over.
He went back to Britain, and he and Macron said, you know, basically, they treated our poor little Zelensky so rude. And then they got, as I mentioned, I did a couple of European podcasts where they were shouting and yelling.
And their point was that we don't need the United States. Take your stupid badges.
We don't need them. And what they were saying was, we're going to have this huge European, pan-European force.
And then to do that, you need 5%. They would rather let in 16% of the population of Germany was not born in Germany, and Britain is just uncontrollable, as is France.
So in their view, if it's a question of spending 2% GDP or 1% more GDP and arming ourselves and contributing to the defense of the West, they would rather let in people without background checks from the Middle East, and that's what they're doing. And if you listen to what the propaganda is from the Middle East, it's that they're slowly outnumbering their host.
They went from 6% to 7% to 8% to 10% to 15%. And that's the idea.
I don't think it looks good for native- Europeans. Aggregate fertility rates about 1.4.
And the people coming in are about 3.5. And the people coming in, they believe in something.
The people who were born, my paisans back in Italy, do they believe in Western civilization anymore? No, they believe in... If there is one person that has something more than I do, then that was because he got it unfairly, and it's the government's job to give what he doesn't need to me.
And that's what drives Europe. French Revolution.
Well, Victor, we're going a little fast and a little truncated today. So we want to keep you alive.
We have another topic. And if we have a little time, I'm going to raise NPR.
But before I mentioned, I promised to talk about proxy voting. So Carol Swaim, who served with you on the 1776 commission.
Yes, she is. She's a wonderful person.
She's very bright, very well-spoken. And she played a critical role in the Claudine Gay step down.
Remember, Jack, she had a two-fold argument. one of that Claudine Gay, who was uh by all of the bicole soul was really a uh had plagiarized from carol from miss swain that's right from her yeah and then more importantly she pointed out that at a point when she was liberal they were lavishing on her all sorts of ivy laurels and offers.
And then when she became conservative, she was out in the wilderness. But that Claudine Gay did not just plagiarize from her, but was an utter mediocrity.
And that was what she said. It was both true.
Yeah. By the way, that reminds me, Bill Ackman had said he was going to go through this uh this
plagiarism project remember that we didn't look at the term papers so i wonder i we should should investigate he tweeted something about me the other day um he did yeah yeah he said that he liked what i said about tariffs but he had one disagreement that they were not reciprocal and I think they are reciprocal.
It's how you define reciprocity.
I didn't mean to suggest that if Germany says we're going to go down to two, then we are two or three or what. But whatever country has a higher tariff of whatever size, we are going to look at them in a way to lower their tariffs, not necessarily symmetrical.
And then if people say, well, why did we level tariffs on Israel? Well, Israel hasn't dropped their tariffs. They just said they were going to.
Well, why are we doing it with Australia, this flat 10% because they've run a surplus? us. I don't think that's going to stand, by the way.
I think that Trump will match Australia's tariffs. But they have a little problem with beef.
They had cow from Canada, as I said, 2003. And then for 16 years, they banned all beef.
And then they came back, I think, in 2019 and said, okay, it's kind of a gimmick to keep your beef out. Australian beef is really good.
When I was there, it's grass-fed, but it's very expensive. And they really don't want these big, husky, fat cows that are in American stockyards and force-fed, you know what I mean, shipped over there at half the price.
So they have to come up, because they're a free trade country, they have to come up with a gimmick. And the gimmick for 16 years was, well, they might have mad cow disease.
And now it is, well, okay, that was a gimmick, but we've got to make sure that every cow that's dressed out was born in the United States. So you can't import cows from Mexico, calves, and then raise them.
And that's the gimmick. And that's part of Trump's tariff policy.
He's trying to tell us it's not just the tariff, but these other countries. I'll give you another example.
Europe will not let chickens go in the United States, from the United States into. Because in the United States, if you buy a fresh chicken, a whole chicken, and you put it on the counter, because of the process of dressing it out and all that in the air, you can have botulism if it's not refrigerated.
So they passed a law that said they all sanitize, so we kind of spray chlorine on our chickens. And then you can wash it off.
But that was the excuse that Europe used not to allow American chickens into Europe. And so what Trump is trying to say is there's all these gimmicks, health, safety rules that they use, China does a lot of them, just to stop the tariffs.
And they need to explain that and break it down so that we understand what they're doing. Yeah.
Well, the regulatory state of other nations is just as much an issue as the tariff rates. Well, back on Carol Swain, Victor, she wrote an op-ed in the New York Post that says, Stand firm GOP, proxying voting makes a mockery of Congress.
And this became quite an issue last week where, here's what she writes, Representative Anna Paulina Luna, Republican of Florida, has sparked a bitter public feud with some of her own party as she pushes to allow some House members to vote by proxy. It's thrust this critical question into the spotlight.
Will Congress uphold its foundational role or erode it under the guise of modern convenience for new parents? Luna, a sitting member of Congress when she welcomed a child in 2023, partnered with Representative Brittany Peterson, who's a Democrat from Colorado,
another new mother, to... new parents.
Luna, a sitting member of Congress, when she welcomed a child in 2023, partnered with
Representative Brittany Peterson, who's a Democrat from Colorado, another new mother, to advocate for a rule change, allowing new house parents to delegate their votes to colleagues for 12 weeks postpartum. I see this is a quite a slippery slope.
But what do you think, Victor? I have no problem with it.
If they can find, if they, what they do is they get a major vote, and they say, I'm going to vote Republican-Conservative. Is there anybody who's going to vote liberal? And then that person says yes.
And if they're pregnant, too, then neither one has to show up. They've done that for years.
The only problem with it for Republicans is twofold, as I see it. Number one, they have to be genuine that they oppose the Democrat.
You know what I mean? If a Democrat says, well, I'm, I want no restrictions on, I'm going to vote for a bill with no restrictions whatsoever on abortion, and you can vote that you'll have to vote that way. It's very hard to get a perfect symmetry, is what I'm saying, so they both don't show up.
The other problem is that the trademark brand of the Trump administration is show up for work. and no Zoom, no three days at home, no doing the Internet in your living room in your pajamas.
You've got to show up for work. That's very hard for a Republican congresswoman to say, I'm not going to show up for work.
Yeah. So that's a messaging problem.
Yeah. I think it would expand, too.
Well, I'm the husband of the woman. My wife just had, well, imagine, what's his name? Duffy, who had like eight or nine kids, who's now the secretary of transportation.
You know, I want my 12 weeks. Or, you know, gay couple, gay congressman, adopt a kid.
Well, I need my 12 weeks. I remember my children, my wife was working at the post office, and I was teaching four classes, five classes a semester often.
And I had three kids that were at that time, I think six, eight, ten, and they were at three different schools. And my wife went to work at noon and came back at midnight.
And I got done teaching at, I would go teach at 7 o'clock in the morning class,
a 40-mile commute.
And anyway, I would teach these classes.
And then I would get in my pickup and drive.
I got three tickets, like a madman.
So I could go to each of the three schools and pick them up.
And then I was exhausted.
So did I make them a nice Caesar salad? No. You know what I did? I got, they would go like this.
Can we have a happy meal? I said, it's too expensive. Come on, we want a happy meal.
KFC. I said, okay.
And then I would love my fries and milkshake. I haven't had fast food in 40 years.
I haven't. But anyway, then I would bring them home, and they would just go crazy, and I had all these pennies in a jar to pay for it.
So what's getting me now is that they're in their 40s, and every once in a while they'll make an offhanded remark, like, I can't believe you force-fed us McDonald's Big Mac big macs and i said you gulped them up yeah you gave us a milkshake we should have been eating you know avocado juice we should have been drinking avocado juice or something i said are you serious you had the time of your life no favors go punished victor uh so even from our especially some from our children sometimes. Hey, last thing, let's get you, because I promised Mrs.
Hanson wouldn't kill you today. So that's her job if she wants it.
Last topic, let's just get your take on NPR, PBS funding. Catherine Maher, if that's how she pronounces it.
Yeah, she testified before. We talked about her last year.
She was so obnoxious with her. I said that, Jack.
I don't recall. I have no recollection of saying that.
That's what she said 89 nothing breakdown Democrats to Republicans
amongst staff
foot dragging on the
burying the Hunter Biden
coverage I mean should the US
taxpayers be
what's the point of I can see there's a point
for Radio Free Europe
hypothetically but I don't see the point
Jerry Berliner blew that all up
the writer who said that
they were
lying they were all left-wing. They lie about everything.
One of the things, the biggest lie is NPR says something like this. Well, you must remember that we only have 1% to 2% federal funds.
So we are... No, you are lying.
You only have 1% to 2% of federal funds because all those productions that you buy, Downton Abbey, all that stuff, you give to your 400 or so regional stations.
And they pay you money for that. And then they pay you dues for that.
So the mothership NPR in Washington, yeah, you get all this corporate money from the foundations, Tides Foundation, all of them. That's fine.
The MacArthur Foundation. But you would have no NPR at all in Washington, D.C.
You've got them all over. You've got them in Fresno.
You've got them in Bakersfield. So where do they get their money? To pay you the money to buy, to rent or pay or license all the stuff that you give them.
The evening news, Fresno will air it. They have to pay for it.
And that money means that they can claim they only have one or two percent federal funds. But where does the federal comes come from the Corporation of Public Broadcasting, the 500 million dollars a year, half a billion dollars? It goes to the regional station for this Ponzi thing.
So the federal government gives most of the money. They do have individual fundraising for all of these towns and cities to have a budget for the year, and most of their budget is, besides the upkeep of the station, is to buy product from NPR.
And then NPR can say, well, we're getting money from our stations. We're not getting money from the government, but the stations are giving money from the government to pay you in government money.
Yeah. And so I think this is not 1971 or wherever it was when some of the ideas came forward for NPR.
It's 2025, and you turn on DirecTV, there's 550 stations. There's streaming, it's everywhere.
Thousands of stations. Some of them are cultural channels, art, cooking.
Anything that NPR offers, you can get on private subscriptions, streaming, or direct TVs. And there's a big, every type of politics, you can go to pay a direct TV and you can say, get anything you want.
And if they're not going to provide balanced comment, I mean, when David Brooks is your conservative analyst on television, and it's, you know, so my point is that they should just go out in the private market and raise, they can get all those billions. Why isn't the Soros Foundation give them $500 million a year? And then they can do it, and they can be as left-wing as they want.
But they represent the people's money, and they're misrepresenting. And her performance was a catastrophe, because every time they asked her, did you believe, didn't you write that you believe that white privilege is there and it makes it impossible? Ah, did I say that? I don't recall that.
And it was just again and again and again. Did you say this about Donald Trump? She's a 1% wealthy woman representing the wealthy, white, bi-coastal, educated, professional class that calls everybody a racist.
She said America was fundamentally racist, I recall. But she's one of those types from years ago that didn't know anyone who voted for Nixon.
How could Nixon have become elected president? I was Pauline Taylor. Yeah, it was.
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Yeah, well, I guess it's the time. I just have to tell you one anecdote.
There's this great writer, Bill Kaufman, and he writes for The Spectator and all kinds of publications over the years. And he's a bit of a friend.
And I mentioned him in Civil Thoughts a few weeks ago, something he wrote. And then he wrote me the other day.
He said, Jack, you're not going to believe this. And he lives up in Elmira, New York, Batavia, upstate near Rochester.
And I'm walking down the street, and there's a guy in a big bucket truck. They're cutting down a huge dead maple tree, and the guy in the top says, Hey, Bill, you're famous.
He says, Why? He says, Jack Fowler mentioned you. Do you know Jack Fowler? Now, I know this guy in the bucket truck.
I don't know him, but I know he had to have heard about. He must have signed up for Civil Thoughts.
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We certainly do. It's a great audience.
I'm going to give a Victor Hanson Ultra Award to the person that can send me an email and says, you can beat a sinus infection without taking any of these horrific antibiotics just by doing the following, fill in the blanks. Ancient.
I've had about 100 of them in my life. I've been operated, as I said, three times in my sinuses.
And I got to find a way of not taking this crappy antibiotic. Well, maybe pin cushions.
What do you call that when you get stuck with pins? I did this once. I mentioned it, and somebody sent me a National Institute of Health long-detailed blind study.
You know what it said, Jack? It said, for people who have had sinus infections longer than two weeks, chronic sinusitis. Yeah.
And the worst symptom was fatigue, and that is my worst symptom. But this is what, versus a placebo and nasal wash.
So you take doxycylidin or Augmentin, the terrible antibiotics, it screws your flora all up, you get tired. But you put up with it, it's going to kill it.
At the end of three weeks of that, I'd probably have to take another three weeks to recover. At the end of three weeks of that, versus people who took the Augmentin or Doxycylum, but it wasn't really, it was empty.
Right. The capsule, it had something else in it.
Sugar, I don't know. Guess what? There was no difference between washing your nose out with an eddy pot once or twice a day and just filling yourself up with antibiotics.
We know the consequences of the antibiotics also. One last thing.
I mentioned last week my daughter was getting married, and so many people wrote me some nice notes, and it was very lovely. Thanks for your prayers.
It was a great wedding. On that, Victor, you need to go to bed or take some more medication.
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