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Speaker 2 Hello and welcome to the Victor Davis-Hansen Show. Thank you for joining us for this Friday news roundup when we've got lots of news this week.

Speaker 2 Of course, Hunter is leading us back down a rabbit hole, so we'll start with him.

Speaker 2 And then we also have RussiaGate and so new information out from Tulsi Gabbard's investigation that has a lot of information about the Obama administration.

Speaker 2 So stay with us for those things and we'll be right back after these messages.

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Speaker 2 So Victor Hunter Biden just gave an interview with Andrew Callahan, who is a Gen Z influencer, I guess. And he seemed to say that crack cocaine or coke, yeah, crack cocaine was purer and better.

Speaker 2 I don't know, he didn't quite say.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it wasn't as bad as wine.

Speaker 2 And he was very unhappy with his dad's one-time friend's turn critic once they decided to oust Joe Biden. I was wondering your thoughts on this.

Speaker 3 He didn't say a lot of things.

Speaker 3 He didn't say that he was a tax cheat and had got caught and then had to get bailed out by his father who pardoned him one of the few pardons that didn't use an auto pen.

Speaker 3 He didn't say that he seduced his brother's widow and got her hooked on drugs.

Speaker 3 He didn't admit that he lied on a federal affidavit about a gun, said he was not a drug addict, and that gun ended up near a school in a dumpster.

Speaker 3 So he didn't do a lot of things. When he got to the laptop, it was, I think what he was trying to say is everybody has laptops.
You open up a laptop, you see all kinds of weird stuff. So,

Speaker 3 no, Hunter, your stuff was a little weirder. You were stark buck naked, if I could use that term, crude though it is.

Speaker 3 You were engaged in sexual intercourse, you were engaged in drug use, you were engaged in prostitution, soliciting prostitutes. In the laptop,

Speaker 3 you were, in addition to that, referencing your father as the big guy and 10% and complaining to your sister or cousin that you were the proverbial bagman that didn't get adequate recognition for the money you helped shake down that was diverted to the older Biden siblings.

Speaker 3 You had some racist thing there. You're talking about Asian people as if they're taboo as sex partners.
I thought, well, that was pretty gross.

Speaker 3 And then the weirdest thing was he didn't acknowledge it as his own. He never has.
He's never said it was. He's never said it wasn't.
Oh, the laptop floated into this crazy repairment.

Speaker 3 No, you were the crazy person. You signed off at it.
He tried to contact you two or three times and said, Mr. Biden, I have your laptop.
I have fixed it. Come and get it.

Speaker 3 You were so addled that you couldn't even do that.

Speaker 3 Then he went after the Democratic Party. David Axelbot, he said, just a one-time flash-in-the-pan consultant.
Maybe that's true with Barack Obama.

Speaker 3 He said James Carville hadn't won an election for 40 years. He went after David Flouf and all of the

Speaker 3 podcasters of America, pod of America, all that Obama group said they were young rookies.

Speaker 3 He said that Anita Dunn, remember her, she was the one in in the Obama administration, said she admired Mao Zedong, the greatest mass murder in history.

Speaker 3 But anyway, he said that Anita Dunn and others like her were grifters. They had cashed in.

Speaker 3 And then he attacked George Clooney, the actor who apparently was a force to get Biden out and Harris in. And at times he said Biden didn't know who he was.
He was so confused.

Speaker 3 He explained all that away, and then he went on to this take that was very embarrassing because he defended the use of crack cocaine as if it was a health drug almost.

Speaker 3 And the obvious subtext was that, Hunter, somebody found cocaine and some type of backpack slot or mail slot in the West Wing, cocaine.

Speaker 3 And that news and investigate the news of that investigation was suppressed, if there even was a.

Speaker 3 So here here you are when you were going into the White House every day

Speaker 3 and you're defending cocaine and they found cocaine, which is a felony, inside the White House, and you're just sort of laughing it off.

Speaker 3 So the whole picture was very disturbing because when you juxtapose it with his adult father by age and dementia and his

Speaker 3 he's still addled. He's still...

Speaker 3 The funny thing about it is the more he said that cocaine had less deleterious effects than alcohol, the more you could see that it did do something to him, that he has got cognitive problems and he has no blinders, no filters.

Speaker 3 So the idea that he was close to the president and making decisions along with Jill Biden is frightening. This is worse than, I think the whole Biden dementia

Speaker 3 and what they tried to do to Donald Trump in association with that

Speaker 3 is worse than Iran-Contra. It's worse than the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
It's worse than Waterdate.

Speaker 2 And just so our audience knows and we don't forget that he did say that the laptop and all the information about the Ukraine, Russia, and China

Speaker 2 bore no resemblance to reality.

Speaker 3 And so that was his take on it.

Speaker 3 Hunter never said this.

Speaker 3 They bore no resemblance to reality because I never said that my father was Mr. 10%.

Speaker 3 I never said

Speaker 3 anything.

Speaker 3 I never, those were not me in the pictures. Those pictures of my genitalia, that was not me.
The picture of me snorting cocaine in a bathtub, that was not me.

Speaker 3 The pictures with call girls, foreign call girls, that was not me. The reference to paying the utilities of his father, that was not me.
That's all he had to do. He couldn't deny anything.

Speaker 3 I think he was addled when he gave the interview because he...

Speaker 3 What was the purpose of it? All it proved is that good riddance to all the Bidens. We were all sick of Jill Biden.
We were sick of Joe Biden. We were sick of Hunter.

Speaker 3 He just confirmed that, see, I wouldn't want to be you. Get out of here.
And yet,

Speaker 3 he's very lucky that he got a pardon or he would have been a convicted felon that had a that forged or improperly lied under oath on a federal document about gun registration.

Speaker 3 He was a federal tax cheat that he lied about. He had evidence that

Speaker 3 he could have been prosecuted for drug use.

Speaker 3 And he probably had amounts that were over the amounts that have lesser sentences for personal use. So he's never had to face any consequences.

Speaker 2 Nope, that's for sure. All right, Victor, then let's turn to the Obama administration and Tulsi Gabbard's recent revelations that Russia Gate,

Speaker 2 if we can call it that now, I think we can, that they manufactured that whole thing and went through and remanufactured it.

Speaker 2 And the evidence coming out from the Tulsi Gabbards, what is she, Defense National Intelligence?

Speaker 3 Department of National Intelligence. She's the director of national intelligence.
Yeah. It's kind of an empty title.
Yeah. It's supposed to coordinate, quote, 17 intelligence agencies.

Speaker 3 But she released this on Sunday,

Speaker 3 last Saturday night.

Speaker 3 And what was new about it was it zeroes in on a December 9th, 2017 meeting in the Oval Office with James Clapper, the same bunch, the well-known cabal of Clapper, John Brennan, James Comey, Susan Rice, I guess there were Loretta Lynch there and John Kerry.

Speaker 3 And the timing is very interesting because Obama is an outgoing president. And we know from the last six months to nine months of his presidency, he checked out.

Speaker 3 He just came to the impression, I do not want to go out as a president who lost 1,400 state and local and federal Democratic offices, senators, state legislatures.

Speaker 3 He did more damage to the Democratic Party than anybody. He set the tone for what we see now.

Speaker 3 And he did not want to go out with 40% on popularity, which he was looking at at the beginning of his last year. So what he did was brilliant.

Speaker 3 He played golf, he picked the final four, he did photo ops, and then he just turned over the national media landscape to Hillary and to Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 And then he kind of needled Hillary a little bit, and he went after Donald Trump. And that's all that he did.

Speaker 3 So it's kind of interesting on December 9th, he calls in these people I just mentioned, and he says, I need my intelligence assessment.

Speaker 3 And they said, you know, we looked at these 17 intelligence agencies that we coordinate, and

Speaker 3 there's no actionable,

Speaker 3 there's no real Trump-Putin collusion. That doesn't mean that the Russians didn't tap into Hillary's email.
They do that all the time. They go into everything.

Speaker 3 But there was no direct contact between Trump and Putin to overthrow a credible election and warp it and be a beneficiary.

Speaker 3 In fact, there was evidence from Dutch intelligence that had tapped into Russian intelligence that they were very curious. Wow, the Americans are as bad as we are.

Speaker 3 They're making up lies about us, what we do. And wow,

Speaker 3 they think that we helped Trump? We have no preference for Trump. He's just as bad as Hillary.

Speaker 3 She's just trying to cover up the fact that we tapped her emails because she was so lax and used a personal server, and Podesta used the

Speaker 3 password. So we got in there and just caused what we always do, trouble.
But what is this weird stuff

Speaker 3 about

Speaker 3 Putin Trump? And I mean,

Speaker 3 this was not external communications.

Speaker 3 It was internal that the Dutch intelligence people who were investigating Russia for interfering in their institutions, they found, and they had found it for years.

Speaker 3 And so this is all coming out at this meeting. Obama basically says to Clapper and Brennan and Comey, what do you got? And they said, we don't have what you want.
He didn't collude with Putin.

Speaker 3 He got elected fair and square. There might have been Russian interference in the laptop, I mean, in the emails with Hillary.
But on the other hand, she was culpable.

Speaker 3 She had thousands of emails that were on a private server. She destroyed subpoena evidence.
So let's not go there. That was the subtext.
So then Obama said, basically, I have the criminal.

Speaker 3 But I don't have the crime. So I got Trump that I can't stand.
So you go back and you re-revise the intelligence estimate. This was on the transition, not just during the election.

Speaker 3 So they went back and the rest is history. Michael Flynn will be depo you know, removed.
Trump will be inaugurated. There'll be huge riots in Washington on Inauguration Day.

Speaker 3 The Pentagon Obama-era lawyer Rosa Brooks will write a controversial article that

Speaker 3 Donald Trump should be removed because of Russian collusion, either by the 25th Amendment, impeachment, or our military coup, Mark Milley style, I guess.

Speaker 3 So anyway, Obama then, this is any funny, well, why did you, he was asked?

Speaker 3 First of all, he was asked briefly, and he said, well, you know,

Speaker 3 really,

Speaker 3 you know,

Speaker 3 controversial stuff going on that.

Speaker 3 And then he came out when Trump weighed in, not just Tulsi Gilbert. So this is treasonous.
He should be prosecuted for treason.

Speaker 3 If you think about it, trying to destroy a political campaign, trying to erode a transition, and trying to undermine a presidency is pretty revolutionary.

Speaker 3 But Obama then said, this is beneath the presidency.

Speaker 3 Presidents don't talk like that. I'm not going to read any reply.
It's so crazy.

Speaker 3 But, but, but what, Barack? All you had to say was the following.

Speaker 3 I, Barack Obama, yes, I did meet on December 9th during my transition in one of my final meetings with my intelligence officials, and they gave me an opinion that I just thought was flawed.

Speaker 3 So I just said, go back and look at the 17 intelligence officials' reports, go back and then think about it, and then maybe we can find out whether he actually colluded, but I just don't accept you.

Speaker 3 He couldn't even say that because he knows that he really said, listen, I don't care what you say, this guy is going to have to be destroyed because he's a danger, so let's get on the same team and get some dirt on him.

Speaker 3 And there's apparently no, you know, John Britton took notes, and now this week as we talk, there's rumors that other whistleblowers, if you were one of the 17 intelligence authorities who had said during 2016-17, yes, they did hack Hillary's emails, and she was vulnerable.

Speaker 3 but they didn't collude, and then you were told that you were quoted by Hillary and Obama to the opposite effect, that you had concluded that there was Russian collusion.

Speaker 3 You might be angry about that.

Speaker 3 I'd be curious to know how many of the 17 intelligence authorities later turned up as one of the 51 intelligence authorities that further lied and said that the laptop was Russian information operation.

Speaker 2 Well, it just is shocking how terribly willing they were to destroy democracy, I think, with everything. Victor.

Speaker 3 Oh, God. Democracy dies in darkness.

Speaker 3 Remember that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 3 And they project, the ultimate projection is, if they think we want to destroy democracy to get rid of Donald Trump, then we'll say he's destroying democracy. That's what they always do.

Speaker 3 And I don't think, unfortunately, I don't think any of them are ever going to be indicted.

Speaker 3 There's just, and if they were, they'd all be up in a Washington courtroom with a Washington judge and a Washington jury and Washington lawyers, and they'd get off.

Speaker 3 So I think a lot of people think, I'm just so sick of this. Just let them go.
Let them go gnash their teeth in the darkness. But Obama, it's really going to hurt his legacy that he did this.

Speaker 3 Especially when you see those clips when he's at the White House correspondence dinner attacking Trump because of the Trump effort to prove that he was not born in the United States.

Speaker 3 And he's just saying, oh, you know, Donald Trump says, oh, he's got one thing they didn't have in common with him. I'm president, and he'll never be president.
That was very funny.

Speaker 3 No, Brock, he will run for president three times and be elected twice with larger vote margins than you have.

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Speaker 2 So, Victor, let's turn maybe not so long, but there was a very interesting article in City Journal by Chris Ruffo, and it was about Jeffrey Epstein. And he basically said that

Speaker 2 if we have to put Epstein in as myth or as the banal, Chris Ruffo votes, that the Jeffrey Epstein case scene was more banal than anything. And I was wondering if you had anything more on it.

Speaker 3 Well, we talked about with Jack.

Speaker 3 I just think the suicide, there is missing video, and the people who were tasked with monitoring him were lax or absent, but it's just as explicable that he looked at his age.

Speaker 3 He was in his late 50s, early 60s, and he said, I'm a convicted pedophile, and I'm in prison, and I'm going to go to a high-security prison, and I can't use my influence anymore to get out of it like I did the first time.

Speaker 3 And I know what prisoners do

Speaker 3 to men that are pedophiles. They sexually abuse them and they kill them sometimes.

Speaker 3 So it's logical that when he he had no life left because of the revelations of what he'd done and he was probably going to be killed in prison or endangered.

Speaker 3 So the idea that he committed suicide and used his money or leverage to pay off people, not to monitor him while he prepared his suicide noose

Speaker 3 and hung himself, otherwise they would have stopped it. So that might be a conspiracy, but I don't think he was taken out.
The other thing is, very quickly, when

Speaker 3 people say that Donald Trump

Speaker 3 was not, what's the word, not transparent, that he promised this explosive release of documents, Pam Bondi did, Cash Patel did.

Speaker 3 I think everybody knows what happened, that the names that came up, and there were 170 names that crossed paths with him, they were all of various categories.

Speaker 3 And they called Donald Trump and his people and said, you know what? I was his advisor. Boom.
I

Speaker 3 shook him down for some money for my foundation. He had an office at Harvard.
I flew on his plane because I was his attorney. I met him in a celebrity part.
I'm Robert, you know,

Speaker 3 Leonardo. Oh, my gosh, Leo DiCaprio.

Speaker 3 Leonardo DiCaprio. I'm Kevin Spacey.
I'm Bruce Willis.

Speaker 3 I'm Alan Dershowitz. I'm George Mitchell.
I'm all these people, and I didn't do anything wrong. And then people say to yourself, well,

Speaker 3 how many people have you met you had no idea? I mean, I go to the airport, and there's people all the time that come up, not all the time, but want a selfie.

Speaker 3 I have no idea who they're criminals or what. If one of them is a pedophile and that shows up.

Speaker 3 You remember when Jimmy Carter was president, that guy, Gacy, he was a clown that mass-murdered boys. He had pictures with Roslyn and I think in Jimmy Carter at some event that surfaced.

Speaker 3 That always happens.

Speaker 3 So the other argument is that Donald Trump wrote him a birthday card, but it's very suspicious, even though the Wall Street Journal printed it because

Speaker 3 it's a typewritten interrogatory, you know, Jeffrey Donald Trump, and anybody could have typed that. But more importantly, he wrote a little illustration, and it was kind of obscene.

Speaker 3 But even if it were true, and I'm not sure it is, it's all baked in Donald Trump. It's Stormy Daniels, it's Eugene Carroll, it's

Speaker 3 everybody knew that about him, that he it's the Access Hollywood PUSSY tape.

Speaker 3 They know that.

Speaker 3 They're not interested in that anymore. And so I don't know why the Wall Street Journal made such a big deal out of it, because

Speaker 3 I don't think he I mean, it's released, I don't think he was trying to hide that

Speaker 3 birthday thing, because

Speaker 3 you think somebody in Ohio who's now working in a steel factory says, I can't vote for Donald Trump. He took a Sharpie and he said, Jeffrey, and then he signed his name right where the groin area is.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 it looked just too upsend. I'm not going to vote for him.
I don't think that happens at all.

Speaker 2 No, probably not at all, or else nobody would be voting for anybody in this world.

Speaker 2 So, all right, Victor, so let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and talk a little bit about about a House Judiciary Committee memo, which is very interesting.

Speaker 2 Stay with us, and we'll be right back.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to the Victor Davis-Hanson Show.

Speaker 2 So, Victor, the House Judiciary Committee put out a memo about Biden-Harris administration of government funds and funding both terrorist organizations in Israel and anti-Netanyahu organizations.

Speaker 2 But reading that memo,

Speaker 2 the interesting thing was not just that the

Speaker 2 State Department and U.S. aid was funding these groups under Biden, but that there were other groups.

Speaker 2 And the big one that came out was the Rockefeller Brother Foundation and the Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors were helping to fund these groups as well.

Speaker 3 We know that the Democratic Party, the new Democratic Party, hates Israel because of its new

Speaker 3 demographics, Middle East people, young people, college people, radical.

Speaker 3 But the effort to interfere in Israeli politics goes way back. Clinton sent some of his own campaign team in the 90s to stop Netanyahu.

Speaker 3 So it's very ironic that the Democratic Party was always lecturing election interference, Russian collusion, foreign people have no place in our

Speaker 3 that they're doing the same thing, that American, the American left sends campaign operatives into Israel to campaign against Netanyahu, and they fund organizations that do that.

Speaker 3 It's not supposed, this isn't

Speaker 3 the ugly American. You're not supposed to do that.
You're not supposed to intervene. Especially the left will tell you that.
But the left is the one that wants to intervene.

Speaker 3 So that it's supposed moral ends justify any means necessary to achieve them. And we've known that about them.
But again, it doesn't have any legs, that story, because

Speaker 3 people will just say, that's what Democrats do. And

Speaker 3 is it against the law to interfere in a foreign country? And maybe against Israel's law, but we expect that from them.

Speaker 3 It's like Comey and Clapper and Brennan. They're never going to see the inside of a courtroom.
Just not going to happen. I'm not that.
I am cynical, but it's not just that I'm cynical.

Speaker 3 It's just that when you look at John Durham and you look at that compendium that he found of all that stuff, and yet he couldn't get one conviction, really.

Speaker 3 You know, he got there was Kevin Kleinsmith, and then Joe Brodsberg or whatever his name is, he let him out

Speaker 3 with nothing. So, all of that Russian collusion, we have Kevin Kleinsmith,

Speaker 3 the only person that ever paid a real price for it for forging a FISA document, which would be a major felony. So, I just don't think that any of this is going to go anywhere.

Speaker 2 All right. And I wanted to just talk a little bit about, because the New York Times is always publishing misinformation, if I can put it, use their word,

Speaker 2 about Israel, and they always get death statistics from the Gaza Health Ministry, which obviously is run by Hamas or Hamas sympathizers.

Speaker 2 And they had an interesting thing on Powerline today where they were talking about about the misinformation of the New York Times and that everybody's used to it now, so we don't really pay much attention to it.

Speaker 2 But they said the observation was this, that if the Israelis were really trying to commit genocide and were doing anything even remotely close to what the New York Times says,

Speaker 2 the count of deaths would be a lot higher because we've seen all of the capability Israel is capable of.

Speaker 3 2 million plus people in Gaza, and I think 50, if you look at the accurate figures, 50,000 have died.

Speaker 3 That's a tragedy, but many of them were collateral damaged. But the word comes from Latin genus, a tribe or people, and kido, to kill or to slay.
So they didn't slay an entire people.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 the problem, why is, Victor, why is the death count so high? Because on October 7th, they butchered 1,200 innocent, mostly civilians. They took 240 captives.

Speaker 3 They raped, tortured, and desecrated people. They beheaded them.
They did the most atrocious medieval things imaginable. And Israel replied, and guess what?

Speaker 3 The perpetrators went down like moles into the ground and hid themselves under hospitals, schools, and mosques. So you either had two choices.

Speaker 3 You're either going to have to forget getting them, or you're going to have to find out how to separate them among the civilian shields. And they did their best, but people get killed.

Speaker 3 So the question now is, what do you do with Gaza? And the answer is, you're not going to be able politically to move everybody out and start over, as Trump and others have suggested.

Speaker 3 But you can't, on the other hand, you can't let Hamas, they're killers and hostage takers and terrorists, you can't let them be the government.

Speaker 3 So nobody has come up with a solution how you disengage Hamas from the people because they threaten the people

Speaker 3 and how do you give them a breathing space free of Hamas so they don't embezzle the money as they always do, hijack UN food supply convoys, and just rebuild Gaza with Middle East money and then keep a Hamas out?

Speaker 3 That requires a degree of force that's not compatible with ideas of non-interference.

Speaker 2 All right. So we also had on the similar topic, I guess, Mahmoud Khalil, who has been released from his

Speaker 2 arrest.

Speaker 2 CNN was interviewing him, and they asked him if

Speaker 2 he would condemn combatants hiding behind civilians. Oh, sorry, if he would condemn Hamas.

Speaker 2 And he said, quote, this is disingenuous and absurd to ask such a question. So I was wondering if you had any commentary on this crazy guy.

Speaker 3 Yes, I support Hamas, and no, I won't disassociate myself. That's what he was anyway.
He was a spokesman for the Columbia DeVest Group. That was just a euphemism for a radical pro-Hamas

Speaker 3 activist.

Speaker 3 And he was here originally on a student visa and then a green card. Never said that we let him in so he could be a protester that tried to disrupt the Columbia campus.

Speaker 3 But why did he want to come here? He hates the United States. He loves Hamas.
Hamas is back there. They need his help.
Just go back and help them.

Speaker 3 I don't understand all these people that come over here and then they get here and they start attacking the United States and making fun of the people and they think they're so sophisticated.

Speaker 3 Just leave if you don't like it.

Speaker 3 That's another question, but if you look at the 300,000 students, 70% of them are either from China or illiberal regimes. There's probably more than that.
They're not counted. And

Speaker 3 why we do bring people from the West Bank or places like Syria, Iraq, Algeria, Yemen, any of those places here, Iran, I don't understand it at all.

Speaker 3 We should just say to these countries, I tell you what, just as we have reciprocal tariffs, we're going to have reciprocal population.

Speaker 3 For each one of you people who want to go to the United States, one of us has to go to your country.

Speaker 3 And how many Americans would love to live in sunny Gaza or beautiful Houthi Yemen or the wonderful attractions of Tehran? And maybe there's 20, so 20 of you get to come here and see what happens.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that would just definitely be a better situation. All right, let's turn to

Speaker 2 other people who are not happy with the United States, and that would be the Democrats.

Speaker 2 Elisa Slotkin, who is a current recent representative, said that the Democrats lack alpha energy and fear their unhinged base. So she came out and said that because the energy alpha,

Speaker 3 we use that term in association with the American male.

Speaker 3 I guess what they're saying is we want to disassociate ourselves from rah-rah Trump supporters like we see at those rallies. But that has the energy

Speaker 3 and the success rate that we don't. We prefer our males, our people to be NPR type of people that we are very sophisticated, nuanced about all these questions.

Speaker 3 And we consider those people to be, hey, Trump, yeah.

Speaker 3 And they don't like that, but then

Speaker 3 they are ambiguous because they feel that people react to forceful alpha-type people.

Speaker 3 And they're not alpha-type people. Pete Buttigig, for one example, it was disclosed this week that

Speaker 3 he just used most of the money not on any new highway projects or infrastructure, but mostly on DEI.

Speaker 3 And he didn't do anything about the air traffic controller mess or the pilot mess or the airline mess.

Speaker 3 He just went around on his little bike, got out of his limo, got on his bike, rode, took a photo up and said that Trump was a racist and Cloverleafs were racist.

Speaker 3 and overpasses were racist and aqueducts were racist. I don't everything was racist.

Speaker 2 That was all he did.

Speaker 3 He wasn't an alpha male, and you got all these other people that are

Speaker 3 successful. The Democrats' problem right now is we're on a cusp, and it could go either way.

Speaker 3 But,

Speaker 3 but, there was reports today, as I'm speaking on this

Speaker 3 Wednesday,

Speaker 3 that there have been massive power outages in Iran, fuel shortages, etc., and they think it's internal sabotage, and they're so extensive that the Iranian theocracies had to declare holidays because they have no power for electricity and they have no fuel to drive.

Speaker 3 What I'm getting at is if Donald Trump, during his tenure with a maximum pressure renewal campaign and the bombing, was able to get rid of that horrific regime

Speaker 3 and you could solve the Gaza thing, there is no Hezbollah active right now for a while. It's a whole new,

Speaker 3 we've never seen a presidency like that, you know, that's been so successful in foreign policy. And then when you add on what I call the known unknowns, massive foreign investment.

Speaker 3 We had a Japanese trade deal that was just announced yesterday. Over $500 billion, a reciprocal 15% trade tariff.
They've been tariffing us for that rate for a long time.

Speaker 3 And we just said we're going to do the same. So when you look at $15 trillion in aggregate coming into this country, my gosh, and you look at deregulation and tax incentives and robotics, AI,

Speaker 3 there's just so many things that point toward an expansionary economy, really expansionary, that I don't think, I don't know what's going to happen if that were to happen.

Speaker 3 What would the Wall Street Journal say? What would the New York Times say? Guru Donald Trump for two months in succession has more revenues than debits.

Speaker 3 In May, there was more federal money going in than out. They would say, well, this is a special case.
It was a special case, but it had not happened for eight years.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 we'll see what happens, but we're in very uncertain times.

Speaker 3 Everything could break one way or the other. That's why it's very, very important for Donald Trump and his team to explain the deportations

Speaker 3 and to explain exactly what we're going to do with energy and everything so he doesn't just get caricature, caricatured, caricatured, caricatured. Oh, you're ICE Nazis.
Oh, you're this.

Speaker 3 I know they're going to do it anyway, but he needs to outsmart these people. And, you know,

Speaker 3 don't get into the Epstein stuff. It's just, that was a lose-lose situation.
He should have just said,

Speaker 3 We looked at and thought there was a master list. We were categorizing as a master list of clients, people who

Speaker 3 were on a list that had come in contact with him. And that list was compiled by prosecutors

Speaker 3 who had access to his private communications, text, email, snail mail, photographs, videos. But they're not all guilty.

Speaker 3 If you could just say that. And that's why we decided to pivot.

Speaker 3 We didn't know really the extent of people who were innocent collateral damage and would be hurt by these disclosures, but we're going to make them now anyway. We have to.
We're sorry, but we have to.

Speaker 3 And he'd solve the problem tomorrow. And then we could start looking at the economy and foreign relations.
He's done a great job.

Speaker 2 And just to answer, Alyssa Slotkin, I don't think their woke ideology of victimhood is very consistent with alpha energy at all, so I don't think she's going to get anywhere.

Speaker 2 But I also had a question on their current face of the Democratic Party, which seems to be Jasmine Crockett, AOC, Mom Donney. And I was thinking, wouldn't it be good for

Speaker 2 conservative media to just bring them out and put them on as much as they possibly can so they can keep that face of the Democratic Party out there?

Speaker 3 She's always on there.

Speaker 3 She's really,

Speaker 3 her problem is that she's an unabashed Joy Reed racist. She hates people who don't look like herself, and she's insecure.

Speaker 3 AOC

Speaker 3 has

Speaker 3 a way of talking that suggests she has 50 more IQ points than she has.

Speaker 3 And Rashida Talib, the rest of them, Presley, they're really, I mean, Elon Omar, they're all

Speaker 3 just not capable of.

Speaker 3 running a party. They're so off-putting.

Speaker 3 So all we're doing is the democratic strategy right now: we have no power, we have no Congress, Supreme Court White House, we have no popular side of the issues.

Speaker 3 We're just going to say fascist, fascist, fascist, Monday, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi,

Speaker 3 totalitarian, totalitarian, dictator, dictator, thug, thug. And that's what we're going to do with Trump.
And if we do it long enough, we'll drive down his ratings.

Speaker 3 That's what they think has already happened.

Speaker 2 All right, let's then turn to Rand Paul, who wants to test the legality of the the auto pin

Speaker 2 by

Speaker 2 bringing charges against Anthony Fauci. And I thought, yeah, that's a good idea.
We can see how long that auto pin stands up on that and at least get the information out there.

Speaker 2 But I was wondering your thoughts on yeah, there's two questions.

Speaker 3 One is, is Anthony Fauci guilty of anything? We know he's guilty of machinations,

Speaker 3 all sorts of weird conspiracies, wear one mask, no, wear two masks, no wear no mask.

Speaker 3 HWO is we got to stay in it, no, we're going to have to get out of it. Oh, a pangolin or a bat caused COVID, oh, maybe not, oh, maybe this.
So he's all over the map.

Speaker 3 But the question is, did he divert money

Speaker 3 from the United States to fund gain-of-function research, which was outlawed in the United States?

Speaker 3 You could not spend money in the United States for it, and try to circumvent the law and help the Chinese Liberation Army run that lab.

Speaker 3 And if he did, why did he do it?

Speaker 3 And why did he try to cover up his tracks the first week COVID arrived here?

Speaker 3 And those emails with Francis Collins and others, well, be careful what they're going to try to say that we're responsible for it. Yeah, we are trying to say that because you were.

Speaker 3 And so that's his exposure.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 Rand Paul wants, the other question is,

Speaker 3 how do you prove that Joe Joe Biden didn't tell people to use the auto pen?

Speaker 3 So I know you can say this is the auto pin and this is Joe's eroding signature and you can tell the authenticity of it from the auto pin.

Speaker 3 So I can say they can get all these executive orders and look how many have auto pin and then ask themselves, are there communications

Speaker 3 from Joe Biden to allow that to happen.

Speaker 3 And I don't think there are. And I just think people just got into

Speaker 3 the mood: well, Joe's asleep, it's 10:30, or this guy, a big donor, wants to get a pardon for this guy, go do it. And that's what happened.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 3 well, if these auto-pin signatures. Yeah, well, I mean, he's going to,

Speaker 3 Ron Paul is going to call Fauci up, and Fauci says, I'm immune. And he's going to say, no, you're not.

Speaker 3 because you were signed by an aide or something. But

Speaker 3 what I'm getting at is all presidents use the auto-pin, but not nearly as much as Biden's people did.

Speaker 3 And all presidents direct somebody, if they can't be in the town that day in Washington, to go do pardon this person once, two, three. But nobody's ever seen these mass pardons with auto pens.

Speaker 3 So you know that other people are doing it. Especially there's some textual evidence that people were communicating, the donor class and politicians, with Trump staffers about who gets pardoned.

Speaker 3 And the staffers at not necessarily a high level level were making that decision.

Speaker 2 Seems like you might have a time stamp on that auto pin and you could find out if Joe Biden was sleeping at the time of the time stamp.

Speaker 3 Well, it wouldn't matter though. I mean,

Speaker 3 I was up most of the night like now when I'm sleepy, right?

Speaker 3 But I can delegate people to do stuff for me, can I?

Speaker 2 True enough, yes.

Speaker 2 All right, Victor, so let's go ahead and take a break and come back and talk a little bit about the U.S.

Speaker 2 District Court and Elena Haba and then also the Uyghurs and the Tibetan representatives were here talking to our Congress this week. So stay with us and we'll come back with those stories.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to the Victor Davis Hansen. So you can find Victor on X and his handle is at VD Hansen and on Facebook at Hansen's Morning Cup.

Speaker 2 And there's also a Facebook group that is unaffiliated with us, but they do a lot of good work of finding old things that Victor interviews and/or talks that were given long ago.

Speaker 2 So it's good to go to Victor Davis Hansen Fan Club. So, Victor, I wanted to talk first about the Uyghurs and the Tibetans.

Speaker 2 It seems to me this is something that, speaking of Democrats, they should be able to get along because they are here trying to convince the Congress that

Speaker 2 it should support them as independent nations, and it should recognize them as independent nations, and that

Speaker 2 their opposition to China should not just be opposing human rights violations. So I was wondering your question.

Speaker 3 It's not going to happen that we're not going to advocate a secessionist movement in China, no matter how poorly treated the Uyghurs are.

Speaker 3 And they're not going to get any support from the Democrats.

Speaker 3 Democrats' only interest in China is that they do not want a trade settlement with us because they want to embarrass Trump.

Speaker 3 Any good that could come of it that would help Trump would be taboo for the Democrats.

Speaker 3 It's very funny we're talking, you just mentioned Gaza, Gaza, Gaza, genocide, genocide, and there's a million Uyghurs in labor camps. No one talks about

Speaker 3 what, 45 years, 425, yeah,

Speaker 3 gosh, I didn't realize I was that old, but

Speaker 3 basically no one talks about a half century of illegal occupation of Cyprus. No one talks about Rwanda and the Congo.
No one talks about any of this stuff.

Speaker 3 They just talk about Gaza, Gaza, Gaza, but they don't talk about the Uyghurs at all.

Speaker 3 It's very strange.

Speaker 3 The only explanation is that Israelis are Jewish, and we're starting to see this overt, unapologetic anti-Semitism that focuses on what Israel does, but not what Communist China does, not what the Congo or Rwanda do, not

Speaker 3 what Turkey does to

Speaker 3 180,000 ethnically cleansed Armenians out of a Turkish-speaking former province of the Soviet Union. How about what the Turks have done to the Kurds? Nada.

Speaker 3 It's the Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, Israelis, Israelis.

Speaker 2 It might be because the

Speaker 2 state of Israel is so strong and obviously so.

Speaker 3 It's hard to say.

Speaker 3 They hate the West in general, anybody who's Western, and they are Western, and then they hate the overdog, and they always empathize with the underdog without ever asking themselves, why are they an underdog?

Speaker 2 Well, Victor, there's the U.S. District Court has in New Jersey, or the U.S.

Speaker 2 District Court, I'm not sure if it's bigger than New Jersey, but they've decided to remove Alina Haba, who was one of Trump's lawyers for a while, from her federal position as a judge in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 And Bondi has removed the replacement because it's a federal position. So

Speaker 2 interesting thing where a district court is trying to take her out.

Speaker 3 The only

Speaker 3 when I said that Democrats had no power, they only have one power of the 750 to 800

Speaker 3 lower court federal district judges, about 60% are left-wing and they're activists.

Speaker 3 So they're using these people to exercise power that wasn't given to them by the people. And I say, well,

Speaker 3 they said, Victor, but they're judges. Yes, but they're going well beyond their purview of deciding individual cases.
They're trying to look for cases as levers for

Speaker 3 fame to sidetrack or cancel or postpone a Trump initiative. That's what they're doing.
And they're very powerful at it.

Speaker 3 And by the time one of these guys issues a ruling to John Roberts agrees to take it up with the Supreme Court, it can be over a year or two.

Speaker 2 We've seen lots of changes in Europe recently. And one of the things that I thought was interesting in the UK is slowly things are changing.

Speaker 2 They have launched their first sanctions against groups that are facilitating illegal immigration. So they are starting to follow Trump's example, I think.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's important because they have to make their,

Speaker 3 and they won't do it, the 5% promise to invest 5% of their GDP for defense.

Speaker 3 But Britain, but Italy, but Germany, but France, but Netherlands, they all have three problems. One, they have no borders.

Speaker 3 They've let in 15% of their population are anti-Western Muslims that have not shown so far a propensity to intermarry, integrate, assimilate into the body politic. Number two,

Speaker 3 they have these crazy energy

Speaker 3 subsidized wind and solar, so they just keep spending trillions of dollars on these programs that don't give them affordable, reliable energy, so they can't compete with the Chinese, or the Japanese, or South Koreans, or us, because their

Speaker 3 electricity costs are double what others pay.

Speaker 3 And then they have that fertility problem.

Speaker 3 It's 1.4, 1.45.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 they're not breeding themselves. What's the word? They're breeding themselves out of existence.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 it's a Western pathology. It's happened everywhere in the West except Israel.
It's the only country that has 3.0

Speaker 3 fertility rate.

Speaker 3 And it has, well, it used to have secure borders until October 7th.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 it's not naive about where its power comes from.

Speaker 2 Did you hear that Candace Owen is being sued by the President of France for claiming that his wife was one time called Jean-Michel Trognot, a male who went through transition when he was in his 30s, and that he,

Speaker 2 after transitioning to a woman, he groomed,

Speaker 2 he groomed Macron himself.

Speaker 3 She's being sued by Macron. Yeah, there's all these rumors

Speaker 3 on the right, mostly on the right, that

Speaker 3 Macron is sort of a hyper-Trudeau type, effeminate person that had homosexual tendencies. And it kind of dovetail with the Obama rumors that Michelle is a trans person.
Remember all that crazy stuff?

Speaker 3 So they believe that she's not a woman, but

Speaker 3 the rumors all go to a certain point and they stop. And the stop is they either are or they're not.
So she's either a woman. or she can be easily identified as a man.

Speaker 3 And by her, you you know,

Speaker 3 I've seen her in dresses and things that suggest that she has a figure like a woman. And it's kind of ridiculous.
But

Speaker 3 I don't know why Candice Owens does those things.

Speaker 3 Is it to get clicks on the internet?

Speaker 3 Or why would Tucker, whom I like, but why would he put Daryl Cooper, this anti-Semitic amateur historian that gets everything wrong, all the details are wrong? What's the purpose of it? Is it to get

Speaker 3 so? Why would you say that when you don't have evidence? If Candace Owen said, Well, here it is.

Speaker 3 I have a picture of her in a string bikini when she was 17 years old, and look at her muscular skeletal body type, and that is not male.

Speaker 3 Or here are the records of a not female, I should say, and here are the records of her trans surgeries. There's also, why not just produce the data and let people make their own,

Speaker 3 you know.

Speaker 2 As well, they should.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 the last thing on our agenda before we close out the show is that,

Speaker 2 and I'm not sure I was ever a big fan, but he was an

Speaker 2 icon in the rock world.

Speaker 2 And Ozzie Osborne died at the age of 76. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 He had Parkinson's disease. He actually gave a concert right before he died in a wheelchair.
I wasn't a big, I never,

Speaker 3 I had weird eclectic music tastes, but they didn't extend to hard, you know what I mean, hard metal. So I never really listened to it.
If you asked me to name one Black Sabbath song, I could not.

Speaker 3 If you asked me to name one Kiss song, I could not.

Speaker 3 If you asked me Metallica, I could not.

Speaker 3 I'm kind of like Inagata Davida, I remember that, which I thought was kind of hard metal. That's about as far as I remember.

Speaker 3 But apparently he grew up in Manchester, so he was known as being very affable and kind to people, and he never forgot that he had a Manchester accent, that he was a product of the lower middle class in England.

Speaker 3 After he's death, I can't find anybody that would say anything negative about him, although he admitted himself

Speaker 3 that he was a chronic, at one point in his life, philanderer, and that his wife, Sharon Osborne, who became a reality TV superstar, I suppose, and everybody was scared of because she was so protective of him and she'd scream and yell at people, which probably was good.

Speaker 3 But they all liked him, and he had a long life. He, what, 75 years old with Parkinson's?

Speaker 3 There are videos

Speaker 3 online where he says he took massive amounts of marijuana, cocaine, and harder drugs, and he was in rehab. What I don't understand about all of this is

Speaker 3 maybe it's because I have this mastocytosis immune, but if I were to snort, I've never snorted cocaine, but if I were to snort, I think cocaine, I would be out of it for a, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Or if I went into a bar and ordered six gin and tonics, I would be dysfunctional. And I would assume that people who smoke two or three packs of cigarettes would be too.

Speaker 3 But then I have people in my immediate family and friends that have smoked their whole life or have used drugs or not necessarily my family but friends, but my family, I have siblings that are smokers.

Speaker 3 I just don't know how they can

Speaker 3 all the cond I guess I'm getting back to Hunter Biden. He had one point,

Speaker 3 and that is

Speaker 3 how is he even alive, given all the crack cocaine he used? How is Willie Nelson alive at 94, all that marijuana he used? When you hear every day how dangerous it is?

Speaker 3 And I don't know whether some of these drugs are palliatives for people who are highly stressed or they have...

Speaker 3 I don't know, obsessive, compulsive personalities, and

Speaker 3 they serve the same function as antidepressants or

Speaker 3 anti-anxiety drugs. But sometimes it's very strange to see people who have used drugs their entire life.

Speaker 3 And they outlive people who never drank, never smoked, never used drugs.

Speaker 2 Well, on that,

Speaker 2 do you... I've often wondered if Parkinson's is

Speaker 2 because you see these singers that have done so many drugs and stuff, if it may be

Speaker 2 a cause of Parkinson's or help that disease over time.

Speaker 3 People have suggested that. They've suggested excessive alcohol.
But Parkinson's is on the upswing and partly it's people are living longer and it's inevitable that people get it.

Speaker 3 Partly people say it's artificial substances, you know, plastics, benzene, all of these things in the environment. But again,

Speaker 3 given what we know about the toxicity of these drugs and given what we know about the amounts that people take, when you look at all of these rock stars, you would think they, I mean, look at Neil Young, he was a heroin addict.

Speaker 3 He's got to be in his mid-80s or early 80s, and he's still there.

Speaker 3 I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is strange. Well, Victor, let's go ahead and look at some comments.

Speaker 2 This time, I went to YouTube and I looked down ears in Jack's recent podcast, and here are some comments from the first one is from putts in round.

Speaker 2 Putz in round, I think is what they're trying to say.

Speaker 2 Victor's unmatched skill in distilling the giant amounts of info we all are bombarded with these days into digestible portions.

Speaker 2 He then serves us these morsels and helps us with the logical conclusions to be drawn therefrom. Thank you for your work.
That's a good point. When I was

Speaker 3 six years old, my job, when I got home from school, my parents were at work, so they let us off in front of our little 800-square-foot farmhouse on the other corner of this farm.

Speaker 3 And my job was to make sure I saw the Fresno Bee.

Speaker 3 It had a rubber band about it,

Speaker 3 and it wasn't during the rain all wet, or it was somebody didn't steal it. It was 10 cents.
And then I dropped it in, and I started reading it when I was like eight.

Speaker 3 But then my parents would come home and get very angry because I didn't fold it back the way it was. But my point is, it was always like three or four stories.
That was it, the news stories.

Speaker 3 There was not all this stuff that you see. Gosh, I wake up at 4:30 or 5 in the morning, and

Speaker 3 I look at my little phone, and there's all these notices from X, all these servers that you inadvertently get subscribed to, and it's just dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung. All this chaos.

Speaker 3 And you have to distinguish what's important and what's. I mean, Do I really care what the Kardashians are doing today? I don't.
I don't care that Jennifer Lopez is doing obscene pornographic shows.

Speaker 3 It has no interest to me. I'm glad that really astute people I admire, like Megan Kelly, are dealing with it because

Speaker 3 I'm unqualified to deal with it. But there's so many of these crazy stories that are of no value.

Speaker 3 We should be talking about the debt, inflation, status of the military, foreign policy, the universities. These are all legitimate issues.

Speaker 2 In fact, for our Saturday show, I'm hoping to go over or have a retrospective on the last six months of Trump's successes. So what I'm saying is that

Speaker 3 I did that sort of with Uitt yesterday. We went through what he called the ten most fundamental achievements of his first six months.
And

Speaker 3 there's a lot. That's why I wish that

Speaker 3 he just

Speaker 3 get over the Epstein thing and just say, you know what?

Speaker 3 I don't know what the status of all these people's names are. I got people calling me and saying, President Trump, you know, if you release names of people who came in contact with him, I'm ruined.

Speaker 3 And just say, you know what, I don't know what your status is. I imagine it ranges from the majority that just raised money with him, for him, about him,

Speaker 3 saw him at Harvard, did a photo op, thought he was kind of a weirdo, they invited to a party to the other extreme where they were pedophiled.

Speaker 3 So just let the names be released and let the public make the necessary

Speaker 3 determination of their status to the degree they're interested.

Speaker 2 Yeah, good idea. All right, and this one is from Debbie Peterson, 2003.
Victor, sweetheart, I feel your pain.

Speaker 3 I'm in pain right now.

Speaker 3 You must have telepathy. Telepathy.

Speaker 2 Well, you're going to get angry. You're going to find yourself in better circumstances than Debbie is.
I feel your pain. A year ago,

Speaker 2 I had brain surgery, and access was through my nose.

Speaker 2 It was described to me by a specialist. They removed all the 2x4s in the house in order to access the brain.
Now they want to open the hood and replace the 2x4s in the house.

Speaker 2 The specialist states it will take another year for my nose to settle into a recovered state. Boy, am I ever anxious to be done.
Hang in there, Victor. I get you.

Speaker 3 I'm coming, Dick. I'm here because I got this sinus infection on March.
I got the flu, and I got the sinus infection maybe March 15th,

Speaker 3 and I was operated on June 11th. And as I'm speaking right now, I have severe pain in my left sinus, which was my good sinus that didn't have the bone.
And I was with some people.

Speaker 3 the last week and some people come up and said

Speaker 3 you know they'll say you better be careful. Maybe it was an amoeba in the middle pop that's eating your brain out.
Have you thought about that?

Speaker 3 Or fungus, fungus, it can just creep through and they have to cut out.

Speaker 3 And you don't want to think of that. You just think, you know what? I just have an immune problem.
I can't, I have to, it's taking longer than I thought.

Speaker 3 Surgeon did a good job. We'll see what the pain, why I have pain after six weeks.
Today is six weeks to the date that I was operated on.

Speaker 2 All right. And Larry Breyer 4066.

Speaker 2 Is the federal government the employer of last resort?

Speaker 2 If so, does that mean, quote, jobs in the federal government are created out of nothing?

Speaker 2 Is it possible the federal bureaucracy is full of people whose jobs were invented as patronage in the purest sense? Yes, Larry, take it from me, that's so true.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's what's scary when

Speaker 3 everybody talks about the doge as India, 200,000 jobs in the government and then

Speaker 3 what do people do

Speaker 3 because some of those jobs

Speaker 3 I don't know I mean does a person lose their federal job and all of a sudden somebody says I've got a fabricator job at $40 an hour to steel plant I'm not sure that's that's true anytime I've had to call the IRS and be put on hold the person's been incompetent.

Speaker 3 And anytime I've had to deal with Social Security on

Speaker 3 wrong benefits or s

Speaker 3 so you know,

Speaker 3 Medicare, the person's incompetent. I don't want to make that in a blanket statement, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the federal workforce or the state workforce.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and not just incompetent, but surly and

Speaker 3 surly, like going to

Speaker 3 a few years ago, going to the Readley, oh, I shouldn't say that, Readley, California DMV and waiting, waiting in line, and seeing everybody there with a purple t-shirt on that said S-E-I-U,

Speaker 3 Service Employees Union.

Speaker 3 And so,

Speaker 3 what am I? And I said to them, Do you really, I said, I've been waiting for about an hour and I had an appointment, and all I wanted to do was just correct an improper registration

Speaker 3 name that you put David for Davis.

Speaker 3 And I had been pulled over, and a cop said, Victor Davis, it was in a license or something.

Speaker 3 And I said, and they said,

Speaker 3 and I said, Do you think that's right to wear union advocacies at a public place? And she said, How eager are you to be served?

Speaker 2 At least she was honest. She was honest.

Speaker 2 All right. Thank you, Victor, for all the wisdom today and all the great ideas.

Speaker 3 Thank you, everybody, for listening and viewing. See you next time.

Speaker 2 This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis Hansen, and we're signing off.