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Lots to talk about, Victor.

I think the thing we'll take coming out of the break here will be

the House calling for an investigation

of Biden's doctor.

Or

like, why you were his doctor?

How come you didn't tell us about the cancer?

We have so many other things, Victor.

You have a piece

column in American Greatness, and you talk about Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese, this controversy, big cuts, big cuts at the National Security Council, COVID terrorism.

Did you know the people who were opposed to COVID under the Biden administration, not opposed to COVID?

I mean, everyone's opposed to COVID, but opposed to some of the protocols

were being considered terrorists.

I watched in real time how those forces on the Stanford campus systematically tried to destroy my my friend friends Jay Bacharia and Scott Atlas.

Thank God they failed, but they did a lot of damage to them.

And they've never apologized.

No,

I just have to get this in before the

alumni magazine came this week, Victor, and of course it's Holy Cross.

Big piece about Anthony Fauci, who was back there.

Is he canonized or disgraced?

Basically canonized.

Yeah, actually

they had

a session where he and his wife, the president of the college and the president's wife,

in the church.

The place was packed.

And here's on the altar where the mass takes place.

And there on the altar being interviewed was the patron saint of the left, Dr.

Fauci, who, by the way,

is now an atheist, and he's also in favor of abortion.

Why do you do it on a Catholic altar?

He's an agnostic or atheist.

I was thinking the other day about him.

I don't know of one major statement he said that was true.

He said he just stuck to the idea that the COVID virus originated with a bat and pangolin to the bitter end.

I think he still does do it.

Then he swore under oath that he did not route to Peter Dasick's echo health gain of function.

gain in function and he did and then he said that masks were of no value originally and then he said one mask was valuable, but two was better.

And then we saw him at that New York Yankees game.

Remember, we pulled it off?

Right.

And then he said that the

two, just the two, Pfizer and Moderna, would protect you ad infinitum both from being infectious and infecting someone, which was a complete lie.

And then he said there was no major danger or side effects from the spike protein.

There was.

I could go on, but

he said he never called for a lockdown.

Yes, he said.

I he called lockdown.

He did all he could to thwart

Scott Atlas' recommendations to keep the economy open and business open.

And then he reinvented himself.

And then Peter Dasick rounded up that Lancet fake investigation and published that it was a natural.

Remember the emails between Francis Collins and Anthony Fauci

about they were worried that people might think that they had funded gain and function function and we and it was very important to get the other narrative.

Then they went out to destroy the Great Barrington Initiative, went after Jay

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animal instinct about who he was was Rand Paul from the very beginning.

When he went up before Rand Paul, Rand Paul was not amazed, he was not impressed, he didn't, about Anthony Fauci's reputation.

He just kept hammering him and repeating things he'd said that were untrue, reminding them that he was in real time testifying to things that could not be true.

And

there's a reason why the auto-pin pardon included him, because he had a lot of criminal exposure.

Yeah.

And perjury.

Yeah.

Well, he'll have more maybe eternal exposure.

Also, well, Victor,

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Oh, yeah.

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So, Victor, there's an article that came out today or yesterday.

I think it was from, I'm looking at something, maybe from Town Hall.

On Thursday, Representative James Comer, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, he sent a letter to White House, former White House physician, Dr.

Kevin O'Connor, alerting him that he is being investigated for his medical assessments of former President Joe Biden, given the news that has come out about his metastasized stage for prostate cancer.

O'Connor is an osteopathic physician.

He became Biden's doctor in 2009, and he said in February of 2024 that Biden was, quote, a healthy, active, robust, 81-year-old male who remains fit to successfully execute the duties of his presidency.

Victor, this layers on to the

sleepy Joe or the out of it Joe, not only out of it mentally, out of it physically.

Your thoughts.

God, it's this

farce, this conspiracy is so intertwined with the

Jake Tapper farce and conspiracy.

If you look at it, Jake Tapper

really castigated and damned anybody who tried to tell the truth about his

geometrically declining condition each month.

And

he's on tape.

It's really embarrassing to see some of these podcasts, or Fox News and others, where they have clip after clip after clip of Jake Tapper

assuring it was almost as bad as Joe Scarborough, you know, really attacking people who questioned that.

And then

in addition to that,

there are clips of him on

Russian collusion, laptop disinformation, the 51 intelligence, you name it.

And then the idea that he has carried out this farce and first blamed the media, then he blamed the staff around them, and then he wants to make money off his duplicity.

And then you have the Biden people who were just as or more so duplicitous and tried to hide the condition.

And I really think if you look at the evidence, that was spearheaded

by that team around him, the Obama affinity people, Ron Klain and Anita Dunn and those people.

They were the direct condants to Obama.

And then

Jill Biden, who was a narcissist and enthralled with the idea.

She was Dr.

Jill running the country.

And there was almost a sense that the more debilitated Joe Biden was, rather than being a liability, the more that they saw that as an opportunity, because they could impose upon that empty vessel a very far-left agenda where nobody would be responsible for the downside.

Because good old Joe Biden was the moderate from Scranton.

And he was just,

and then at the last denouement of this really despicable episode in American presidential history, is when the Biden family, to, well, I guess the word would be

stave off or to stop this mounting, escalating, democratic left-wing anger at Biden and the revelations of Tapper's book, Original Sin, just to come out.

Then they chose that moment, Jack, to release this stuff about that he had metastasized prostate cancer.

And the implication was that it had

just come to light.

You know, that he didn't announce it when he lost the election.

He didn't do it in December.

He didn't do it in January.

He didn't do it in February.

He didn't do do it in March.

He didn't do it in April.

He waited until this bombshell, damning book by Tapper came out so that he could steal some of the thunder.

And as David Axelrod

formulated it, that we should now cease blaming Joe Biden for covering up his debility or the media because now he was a patient.

And we all have to hope and pray, which we do, for his recovery.

And that was the narrative to stop all of the Tapper allegations.

And it didn't work.

They're so much in an echo chamber and they're so they don't understand the American people.

The American people's natural and correct response was, okay,

you want us to believe that a person with metastasized

prostate cancer, you just found out about it, you gave no PSA, you didn't do anything, and this just you just happen to want to tell us right now?

We don't believe that.

So it just made the duplicity even more transparent.

And

when you look at all of the urologists, I'm not talking as anybody that had without a single claim to medical expertise.

I'm just talking as a historian that collated what a lot of these urologists have said.

And then scientist R.

Stephen Quay has been very vocal about it as a cancer researcher.

Dr.

Hamadian Fox,

Mr.

Emmanuel, Dr.

Emmanuel, the architect of Obamacare, but a close confidant of the Obamas and Biden.

They all say the same,

Dr.

Siegel on Fox, they all say the same thing.

But can I, Victor, when Emmanuel said it, it really did seem like he was talking as a doctor, but also talking

to create political coverage.

Yes, yes.

And they were basically saying that

this had to be known when he entered the presidency, and it was likely to be monitored.

And the idea you don't give a PSA test after 70 or after 75 to the president of the United States is absurd.

And so

it's just absurd that when they released the medical records, the annual medical records and tests, they never included a PSA test in the manner that Barack Obama and Donald Trump had.

So then the obvious implication, sometimes explicit on these doctors' parts, was that Dr.

O'Connor knew that Joe Biden as an septogenarian had cancer and maybe it was a slow growing and it may have been slow growing because it could have been there for five to ten years.

And they probably thought, you know, Joe's so racked with health problems, he's got

two major aneurysm surgeries.

He'll probably not live to 80s, so why subject him in his early 70s or late 60s to this type of treatment?

I don't want to speculate in the medical reasons, just the historical reasons.

And then

I think the American people, rightly or wrongly, came to the conclusion who followed the story that Dr.

O'Connor is either, as Dr.

Ronnie Jackson, the White House doctor for both Obama and for Trump said, he's either a liar or he's incompetent.

That is, he was probably giving PSA tests all the time that were not officially recorded on the medical records.

Or if he claims, as apparently people are claiming, he didn't because they're not entered in the official medical records, then he's incompetent.

Because

well, it's the kind of doctor Joe Biden would have, right?

One that would be like Joe Biden.

Yeah, I don't think Jill would have allowed that.

Part of it.

I I think they were monitoring him, monitoring him, monitoring him, monitoring him.

And they thought his PSA, they gave him probably a biopsy before the one that they just released.

They were monitoring.

They said, you know, it's slow growing.

He's older.

He can do this.

They might have been even giving him treatment, but who knows?

And then after it was over,

they realized that now he might have been fighting it for five or ten years, and he was near the end of his life.

And now it was in the bone marrow and they wanted to release it because of the bad publicity coming out from the book and I don't think that worked I think it was just a forced multiplier of their own duplicity and I say I say that with regret because nobody wants to see somebody suffer with metastasized prostate cancer but

it was I don't know.

There was some Freudian slipso.

You remember, Jack, that when Joe Biden was asked

what would be sort of the conditions under which you would be vice president in 2008 or no, maybe it was 2009 or 10, he was asked, did you have any conditions that you put on

Barack Obama?

And he said, two things.

I have to be the last person in the room, the final subordinate arbiter.

Of course,

he was, and every time he was, he gave the stupidest advice at all.

Don't dare go after bin Laden and stuff like that.

And then he said, and then I had to be healthy.

It's not like, you know, if I got prostate cancer or something, he said that.

If I got prostate.

And then the other time was, I think it was in 2022, he was on his Bo rant about the burn pits and cancer.

And he says, you know, all of us that have got cancer,

he said, all of us that have cancer, he said, have cancer.

And then everybody, I forgot that little psychodrama.

A lot of people in the press said, oh, well, what cancer do you currently have?

And then the

Corinne Jean-Pierre lying machine came out and said, oh, he was referring to a basal cell cancer that was removed.

Well, that was cancer that he had, not that he has.

So there were indications, I think, that he was

aware of what was going on.

Yeah, Victor, again, on the bringing the news out, part of the, I don't know if it came out of Tapper's book, but I had heard it once or twice, probably,

let's say a week or so ago, about who was running the White House and the Autopen, et cetera.

Was Hunter Biden

calling

many of the shots there?

And of course, who wouldn't want to cover that up in a heartbeat?

We don't want to go to the middle of the day.

He was the shepherd in the last year or two.

He was telling everybody what Joe could do.

He was a partner with Jill Biden to determine his workday.

And everything else was outsourced, but it wasn't outsourced without Jill and Hunter knowing what was being outsourced and to whom it was being outsourced.

The auto pin is strange because you see Trump every time he's signing them, but you get the, they need to get, I think they will, they need to get these people that use the auto, Anita Dunn or Ron Clain, and get them under oath and testify,

did you consult with Joe Biden about this particular, and then name all of the pardons and all of those last-minute executive orders.

The worst one was this 93,

what was it, $93 billion that was dispersed for green projects from the Department of Energy?

Right.

It was just mind-blowing.

To bankroll leftist nonprofits and NGOs.

Yeah.

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Victor, it was interesting, kind of related, and since we're in the cover-up and how

the tapper and the doctor and the cancer, all these things meld.

I didn't think we really got to talk about it much.

You may have talked about it with the great Sammy Wink, but Miranda Devine had a terrific post on X about a week or so ago.

And this had to do with listening to the entirety of that her

interview of Biden.

And many of us saw the four-minute clip and thought, oh, this guy is, you know, cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

Yeah, I could see him not being brought up on charges.

But Miranda,

Miranda's analysis of the entire thing shows that, you know, he was really a nasty guy during this interview.

Biden was.

So that he was just a doddering fool

was not what happened there.

He was caught dead to rights for having taken all this material that he should never have had.

He'd had it.

It was far worse.

I think everybody should remember that.

It was far worse than anything Donald Trump did.

Donald Trump was told that he took thousands of classified documents, and that SWATWA found 102, 0.7, I guess,

0.7%

of the 13,000, there was only 102 classified documents.

That was it.

And then the FBI scattered them on the floor in a way that they had not found them.

And then they brought little sticky labels classified and plastered them all over it.

And that was it.

And they went through Melania's underwear drawer and they went into Barrett.

They did all of this stuff.

And then they indicted Walt Nauta and all these other people.

And yet Joe Biden, for 30 years, had taken classified documents and knowingly did it.

And he had them in the garage.

He had them in the library.

He had them in his office in Washington.

He had them at the University of Delaware.

He had them in four places.

And the weird thing about it all was

he knew it.

And then this lying media, and that's what they are, this lying media said,

well, Joe Biden came forward when he discovered that

he had taken these and he didn't know how many classified, but unlike Donald Trump, he volunteered.

No, he came forward because he had just appointed Jack Smith to go out in a lawfare vendetta against Trump on the documents, and people were asking.

You can go back on the internet and look at it and saying things like, well, did Biden ever do this?

People on the right were saying that.

And he panicked.

And he told his lawyer to go contact Merrick Garland.

And then they made this complete Corinne Jean-Pierre made this complete fantasy statement.

Unlike

Donald Trump, Joe Biden, the moment he realized that he may or may not have had classified files, he came willingly to work with us.

And that was a complete lie.

He only did it to cover himself because he was going after Donald Trump.

And then he had a very incriminating tape

with

the ghostwriter.

And the ghostwriter says on the the tape that he's got access to classified.

They're discussing it.

And then what did they do?

They destroyed the tape.

They destroyed the tape.

And then her should have indicted him and Biden for doing that.

It was subpoenaed.

And then

the ghostwriter said, well, I only did it because it could have been hacked.

Well, why didn't you do it 10 months before or two years before?

You're a pathological liar to make us even think that that could be true.

And then her,

he was very patient on the tape, but

did you notice how Biden's lawyer kept answering the questions?

And then he got into something about the Mongol, all these tangent stories, they were bizarre.

And it was just, he was,

Robert Hurr should, you know, I have a lot of empathy for Robert Hurr because people like Jill Biden and Joe Biden and

especially Kamala Harris and especially Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff.

How dare you say that the president is an old man with a poor memory and that jihad your job.

And that was charitable, what he said.

And more importantly,

all they had to do was show the tape to prove that the and they cleaned up the transcript.

It wasn't an actual verbatim reflection of the things, the ahs and uh

that was all cut out.

But all they had to do was release that tape.

And that would have proved the, but they were never going to release that tape because they knew they were lying the entire time.

And then when Camilla Harris, you know, you should be ashamed.

The worst statement was another one of these Bidens where he will do anything, anything, to gain empathy.

And in that conversation, he said,

Well, this was a troubled time because of Bo's death, and then Bo died, and he had the wrong date.

He brought it up, had the wrong date, and the special prosecutor had to correct him on the date.

And then

that was part of the official report.

I read the report.

It said Joe Biden was confused about the date, and he was asked about that in a press conference.

And he lied.

He just turned on her and said, how dare he bring that up?

He didn't bring it up, Joe.

You brought it up.

You brought it up just like you always brought up the truck driver who you lied about and destroyed his life by saying that he was drunk when he tragically

your wife and child were killed.

And it looks like he had no culpability whatsoever.

I'm not saying that your wife did, but the truck driver had no culpability.

He was not drinking, and you lied about that for 10 years.

And you've been lying about Bo for your own political advantage.

Various times you've said that he was in combat in Iraq.

Various times you've said he died in Iraq.

Various times you said he died because of burn pits and cancer.

Various times

you've said that you were upset and you've got the dates wrong.

But you brought it up.

You brought it up to the special prosecutor, Robert Hurr, to gain sympathy for him, and you couldn't remember the dates.

He mentioned that, and then in a press conference before the world, you damned him and said, how dare he?

That's the kind of lack of character that Joe Biden has always had.

Always had.

Can you imagine Hunter listening to that tape, by the way?

Because part of Joe Biden was

praising his

bow to the hilt, the apple of my eye, my right arm, something like that, you know, like my favorite child.

And what if you're not the favorite child and you're listening to that?

Well, I used to say that Hunter was his left arm, but in Greek mythology,

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Aristorea, meaning the best

or eunomia the the nice sounding so everybody know that the latin sinestra is sinister right yeah that's the word for left but in greek there's a euphemism saying you don't want to dare say it's bad because bad luck to say it's bad and i'm speaking as a left-handed person

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uh all right well victor we um

we have a lot more to get your take on i think uh we should uh delve into the Biden administration, the news that's come out about their

opposition to opponents, their labeling of opponents of COVID mandates.

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here's the headline.

This is from Michael Schellenberger, Catherine Heridge, who was the still mysteriously fired

CBS reporter and Alex Gutentag.

Headline, Biden administration labeled opponents of COVID mandates as domestic, violent, extremists.

Newly released documents

show Tulsi Gabbard has

released this.

Let me just read this quickly.

The report Gabbard

has declassified claims that, quote, anti-government or anti-authority, violent extremists, end quote, specifically

militias, quote, characterize COVID-19 vaccination and mask mandates as evidence of government overreach.

A sweeping range of COVID narratives, the report states, have resonated with DVEs and motivated by QAnon, blah, blah, blah.

Anyway,

if you weren't a foe of the COVID mandates, the Biden administration wanted you treated as domestic, violent extremists, kind of like parents who care about their

education their kids are getting in

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You're all

extremists.

Your thoughts, Victor?

Yeah, there were so many lies about the vaccinations.

And

one of the biggest was that people

who chose not to get them were advocating

either natural immunity, getting COVID, and then using medicines and therapies to make sure

you wouldn't die from it, but you would get natural immunity.

They were demonized as crack.

They were kicked out of the military.

They were ostracized.

At Stanford, where I worked,

you had to be vaccinated.

And when you went on campus, if you went there and you didn't check in, your ping on

your telephone, your cell phone would identify you, and then you got a hot flash email to go to one of the

kiosks and take an immediate COVID test, and then you would get an email about every few hours and say, oh, by the way, someone came on campus and tested positive, and

these are the contacts they had in the last, it was weird.

It was like an Orwellian situation.

And of course,

there was no benefit that anybody could see from it.

And the other law, there's just a series of them, and they demonized everybody.

Another one was that the Pfizer Pharmaceutical Company had announced, I think it was in July, that they were going to release the findings

of their trials, their big trials, thousands of people, and upon the findings, they would issue the vaccine.

And that was slated for mid-October.

And now we have whistleblowers and people who have said that they deliberately delayed that announcement until after the election because they did not want to tell the people that Donald Trump's Operation Warp Speed had worked and before the election, people were being vaccinated.

And that fed into another lie, and I can't count all the lies of Joe Biden.

Then he announced

when he became president that no one had been vaccinated.

But after the election was over, and Pfizer then felt that they could announce the efficacy of their vaccine without helping Donald Trump because he had been defeated, then they vaccinated about 18 million people, 17 to 18 million people.

Joe Biden said then no one had been vaccinated.

If you look at the fact checkers, they'll say, well, it was only 18 million people.

So there was just lie after lie after lie about that.

And

Dr.

Burks, Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins, they were all knee-deep in it.

The medical community lied.

The WHO World Health Organization lied.

The Chinese government lied.

Everybody lied.

And

a lot of people suffered needlessly, both the people who got COVID and, more importantly,

they were putting people in jail who were, you remember that?

Doctors who were prescribing iver medicine or yanking their license and stuff?

Right.

Right.

It was.

And

so

it was a really scary time how quickly this country went into kind of a semi-fascist mood.

I was surprised that I have a disabled granddaughter.

My daughter at the time was living in Santa Cruz, and she was walking on a sidewalk.

And because a person with Smith-McGinnis syndrome who's missing a gene

can't take stimuli,

like flashing lights or sudden people she doesn't know, or they go into a complete meltdown.

And one of the things that would cause that is putting a mask on their face.

So my daughter walked out in the open, breezy ocean air of Santa Cruz and was walking on a sidewalk with her mask, but not with Lila's mask.

And a person came out from the house, and of course it was an academic,

and started screaming and yelling and threatening her.

And that was the kind of the mood.

How dare you do that?

Who put a mask on that guy?

Out in the open air.

And then you would see in California, maybe you saw it back east when you would be driving, you would see people in a car by themselves with masks.

Was that the idea that the filtration system in the car was sucking out germs from the highway, and then they were going to be protected inside the car?

I didn't know.

What was it?

Remember the surfer?

Well, you couldn't do anything outside.

I had a very good doctor,

and she's wonderful, and she wears a mask, and I could see why, because she was in close contact, right, every day with people and Spittle, and she did not get COVID.

And I had no problem.

I think that was wise on her part.

With patient-to-patient, everybody wore a mask when you went to see her.

I wore them.

I didn't bother me a bit.

But the idea you're out in the open air or you're at Home Depot, you remember social distancing, and you can't, there's little, they painted little circles in the parking lot, and you could, it was like chess, or you were a checker, you could go up to one space and then they would have.

Up aisles and down aisles, You're walking the wrong way.

A little speaker goes, there's 48 people now in the Home Depot.

And we were now letting a group of six go in.

My youngest son's graduation from UConn.

We were in the very last row.

We had gotten there early.

It was a windy day.

It was a sunny day, but really windy.

And all the way down on the field, some guy, he must have had binoculars.

And he looked up and he said, we weren't wearing masks.

And we got chastised and ordered to wear masks.

And again, outside, wind,

these idiots.

Go ahead, sorry.

I got the second Marderna in March of 2021.

And I taught at Hillsdale.

Hillsdale was completely open.

They had been one of the first campuses to be vaxed.

But in that nine, I guess when I went in September, it was six or seven months.

But they had been telling us: remember, once you get vaxed,

you can't infect anybody.

You're home-free.

That's what the Moderna and everybody.

So

I thought when I went there, even though it was open, it was six months, you know, and Hillsdale was really good.

When you went in, they had little

blue light ultra, you know, to kill germs in every class.

And then they had a shield

in front of you.

And you had the opera.

They were really taking, but everybody was getting vaxxed, so they kept open.

But I got COVID just, I don't know if you remember the first outbreak was kind of a group of people were in a big party, people, and they got, and everybody was shocked and said, I don't know if it was a gay party, it was all these people were there.

It was somewhere in the East Coast beach.

It was in Provincetown.

It was a big gay party.

It was like an orgy, actually.

Yes, and they got COVID, and everybody's, and that shortly, and they said, don't worry.

Fauci came out and and said this is just an aberrant you're still protected well I got COVID but unlike the two other bouts where I got long COVID I got over at Hillsdale in about five days and then I went back and I had my annual cardio or annual physical it was down in LA and the guy came back in and said

you just had COVID and I said yeah how did you know and he said your antibodies are 2500 and they're off the scale and

he gave me a you

another test just to make sure.

But the point I'm making is that thing broke down very quickly.

The Fauci line about impermeability.

And then

it broke down and then almost immediately it was booster, booster, booster, booster, booster, booster, booster.

And almost everybody I knew that got a booster, they got COVID right after it.

And so I was asking a doctor about this.

I won't mention his name.

I said, well, why do these guys get a booster?

And then they get on a plane and go overseas and they think they're not going to get COVID and they get COVID.

Because I led some tours during this period.

And it seemed like the people who had just got a booster were more vulnerable.

And he said,

in general,

every inoculation, the flu is included, for a brief period it lowers your white blood count and your ability your immune system has to absorb the the inoculation and react and that makes it for a 10 to 15 day or 20 day period you actually have less immunity as your body uses its energy to develop an immunity.

And he says, unfortunately, what happens, people get a flu shot or

a COVID shot, and if they're one of the types of people that have a low white blood count, low normal, like four,

that will take it down below normal.

For most people, it won't matter because they're, you know, six or seven, it takes it down a little bit.

But if you are a low normal, it'll take it down.

And then psychologically, what people do is once they get that thing in their arm, they think they're impenetrable to the virus.

And they go out more often than they would otherwise.

Oh, I'm going to go to a party.

I got vaccinated.

But that's actually, for the first two or three weeks, is the time you should stay away from people as your body acquires immunity from the inoculation.

But it was just weird.

Every time I talked to people, I'm going to Europe.

And I said, You are?

Yeah, I got my fourth booster.

I'm protected.

And then I'd see them, How was Europe?

I got COVID.

I don't think I know anyone that got boosters

or knowingly know that they got boosters.

Everybody that I worked with got boosters.

Well,

I had two, and the second Moderna gave me such a bad reaction, I said, no more.

And I had friends that just begged, don't do it.

There was some, I must, I have to apologize.

There were some very close friends of mine that said, don't do it.

It's a spike protein.

It's not a vaccination victor.

It's genetic engineering.

It's making your cells pump out spike proteins to fool the virus, and you don't know which immune system will keep pumping them or where they're going to go.

The spike protein will go to your brain or your gut.

They had all these weird things.

I said, these people are crazy.

It's been tested.

And I got it, and I wish I hadn't got it.

Yeah, well, ditto.

I have my excuses, you know, taking care of my mom.

And my mom,

I need.

And then you couldn't go into the city or go to the office if you did not have the little card that proved that you had, you know,

I got it in 2000.

The second time I got it, I had to go on I had the acute for a week, and then I got long COVID.

I had a blood test.

They said everything, your protein's down, your album was, everything was scattered.

Crazy.

And then I was sick for almost nine months.

And then I thought, no, I'll get over.

I'll just keep working.

And then I got COVID again on another overseas trip, and I had had it for three months.

And I think a lot of that was the spike protein inoculation.

Don't worry, Victor.

Next time will only be two months.

I want to tell our...

That's what I'm hoping because a guy wrote me a note and said, once you have long COVID, the next one's worse.

And for me, it was nine months and then just three months.

And I'm hoping that the next one is just one month.

I'm hoping, truly hoping, there is no next one.

Okay.

No, they're going to manufacture another one.

China's got a bunch of them.

There's a little closet in the Wuhan Lab,

and there's a glass case, and it says COVID-26, COVID-27,

and break glass in times of emergency.

Spread on pangolin and bring tomorrow.

Yes, and then there's going to be a little next time, bat, fox, raccoon.

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National Security Council headline.

This is from Politico yesterday, and I think it's a deep, it's a dark day for the deep state.

The Trump administration to shrink the National Security Council.

Quick first paragraph.

Trump administration is carrying out a dramatic overhaul of the White House National Security Council, shrinking the nerve center of the American foreign policy machinery, according to five people familiar with the plans.

The plans involve slashing the number of staffers at the NSC to less than 150 from currently around 350.

And some of those cuts have already begun.

I read on some other source, Victor, I said about the deep state, but

I think they're just going back to where we were about 20 years ago.

Yeah, the national security thing just keeps adding, adding, adding.

Maybe a subtext of this is we would call it the Alexander Vinman effect, that you have a minor person who claims he has sole expertise in a particular area of foreign policy, and then when the President is phoning a head of state or somebody, the National Security Council says, which of our 350 people has expertise?

Oh, he does.

Let's put him on that call.

And then you put him on the call, and because they may be an expatriate from that particular country, they're fluent in that language, they're very sympathetic to that country, maybe more than our country.

And so they listen in to the President of the United States, and then they say, I'm going to, and

these people in the intelligence community,

I know people are going to say, Victor, that can't be true.

It is, trust me.

The people in the CIA,

administrative state, FBI, the Peter Strokes, the Lisa Pages, the James Comeys, the John Brennans,

the James Clappers, they're left-wing.

And they come out of universities or the left-wing version of the military.

And then you get a national security person, and then he thinks, hmm, I'm going to fix this president.

He doesn't have the expertise I do, and he's just blumbling.

I'm going to call my friend, and

he'll be the whistleblower, even though he never listened to the call, and that's what happened.

So I think Trump just thinks, you know what, I don't know who these people are.

There's too blank-blank many of them.

So we're just going to cut them down to a manageable number that we know who we're dealing with.

And I think that's wise.

And these people make a lot of money.

And so I'm really glad to see that they're cutting down on these people and cutting down on security clearances.

That's good, too.

He also got rid of the Office of Net Assessment.

It was a wonderful branch under Andrew Marshall, who was apolitical.

But since then, it's declined in both its value and its non-disinterested nature.

So that's gone.

The only thing I'm worried about, Jack, is the big, beautiful bill

it has questionable arithmetic on lowering the $2.1

trillion deficit.

And Scott Vesant said he wanted to keep the deficits at no more than three percent of GDP and if this thing gets up it could be three trillion it could actually increase it it could be six or seven percent of gdp

and

uh

i think that we you the i'm glad they renewed the tax cuts that were going to expire but the other tax cuts

uh if you know the salt is going from 10,000 up to a higher number, that's going to lose a lot of revenue.

And then the tips and the first responders, if so, and maybe, I don't know whether Social Security will not be taxed or not.

But then you have

greater farmer subsidies, Pentagon budgets going up.

And when you look to the administration, they say, well,

We have all of these incentives and we're going to get $10 trillion in federal investment.

Energy level is at an all-time low, so the economy is not going to grow at 2%.

It's going to be more like the first term because we're we're emulating what we did in the first term when we got 3%.

In fact,

we didn't have the foreign investment, so we'll probably get 4%.

And that would get us at 4%

of,

they think they can get 4%

of GDP, the deficit, get it down to 4%, not by cutting anymore.

But what I'm getting at is, remember the golden days of January, February of 2025 when Elon, they hadn't gone after him yet.

He was confident.

He said, I think we can get a trillion dollars in cuts.

And then he would smile and say, who knows?

Maybe $2 trillion.

And that was out of a $7 trillion

debt.

And he was basically, I think we can go back to the first year of the Obama expenditures.

But

that's all gone with the wind, I guess, huh?

Yeah.

Despair for my grandchildren I don't have yet.

I don't know how you grow.

Yeah, how do you grow your way out of this?

I mean, if you increase the revenue, you also increase the incentive for the then legislators to spend that extra.

I mean, all these Republican legislatures, they looked at this and they said, yeah, that's $7 trillion that Biden printed Build Back Better Inflation.

Oh, wait a minute.

My district's going to get a lot of green money.

Oh, wow.

I'm going to get a lot of Medicaid money.

You know, and

Joni Ernest in the Senate already said that she's going to restore the Medicaid cuts because of poor rural people.

I can understand that, but the labor participation rate is 62%.

It's just flat.

And that means that 38% of the people who can work are not working.

And there's so many.

It's just, and you know what's weird about, they're not going to get any upside out of this because

the left is screaming and yelling about the cuts that they did make.

Oh, you're killing children, you're starving children.

But had they got close to, say, cut the deficit in half with a plan to have a balanced budget in four years, then they would have had an argument against their hysteria.

They would have been able to say, Yes, but we didn't have the money, and it was hurting all of us.

And if we can just bear

it, we will get to a balanced budget in four years.

So, and we're making the most progress we have since 1999, 2000.

But now the left can say, well, you cut all of our dear little programs, but

you still are going to either keep the deficit or you'll raise it.

You can't even, and that's going to be hard to, it's not going to help them in the midterm.

So, I wish that they had cut another trillion dollars.

And maybe I have the three brightest people that I, three of the brightest people, not solely those three that I met at the Hoover Institution were Scott Atlas, Jay Bhattacharya, and Kevin Hassert.

And one of them, Kevin, is running a lot of this, and I think he's a very bright guy.

And he keeps insisting that they're going to get up to over 3% GDP and maybe higher, and that's going to raise the revenue.

But that's what all the Reagan economists said.

You remember when we cut tax and it and

I just like to see something like the Ginreach-Clinton conciliation of so between 97, 98, 99, and 2000, we had a balanced budget.

And we were making fantastic progress to paying down the debt.

And then after the 2008 meltdown and the Obama spin and print money, Then people got angry at Tea Party and Obama said, okay, we'll have the Simpson-Bowles Committee.

And I knew Alan Simpson really well.

And they toured the company.

They said,

here it is, three tax brackets, simplify.

We'll go gradually but determinedly.

And right now, our debt would be about $10 trillion, not 37, maybe $8.

And we would be on a geometric ratio of getting rid of it, the debt, had we just done Simpson Bowles.

And it wasn't that dramatic.

But I don't get Republicans.

I really don't.

I don't understand how they can campaign on lowering the debt, getting rid of the trade deficit, stopping the budget deficit, and then go in there and see all this funny money that's been printed and say, you know, I don't want to take the heat to cut it, or I want the money from my constituents, or I'm an incumbent.

I don't understand it.

But I also understand at this late date, stopping the big, beautiful bill will be counterproductive, and then the left will say, ah, we have iron solidarity.

We stop stopped that bill because they can't get their act together.

So it's a really

they put themselves in a really bad position.

Well,

I'm all of a sudden very depressed.

But that said,

Victor, we've got a few more topics to get your opinion on.

And I think we should round out the show talking about

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Let me get the flying thing in here.

I've got so many letters that

people wrote me because I wrote Why I Hate Flying.

I'd written it two years earlier, but I updated it.

And people wrote me things that I hadn't even imagined, but they were absolutely true.

Yeah,

I did say something about an ostrich when we were talking about.

What do you call it, like a security ostrich?

It really was.

Someone tried to get on with a peacock.

So I apologize.

Someone also tried to get on a plane.

I think someone actually did get on a plane.

I saw a little horse in the Chicago airport, but I don't know if it was trying to get on or not.

And then, and again,

the one person wrote me said, You forgot to mention that while you're as soon as the

takes off, the guy jumps out and opens the overhead, and then you're bombarded with a bomb load of baggage in your head.

Hopefully, it hits someone else and not you.

This thing was, and we'll do this quickly, Victor, because this is

you can't imagine the comfort getting worse on a plane or the lack of comfort getting.

This is a VDH travel nightmare so someone Colin Rugg on X

put up this post new standing airplane seats which can increase passenger capacity by 20% may be unveiled in 2026 this is according to a daily mail story unreal the seats

force passengers to sit up higher so airplane airlines can place the seats closer together.

It's kind of like sitting on a bicycle seat.

This is what's being tested out of the way.

But would you be able to get in them with your feet?

Well,

it's less sitting, I think, more straggling than it is sitting on the street.

It's like a trireme, you know, a Greek trireme that had three banks of oars.

It was very hard to get in them.

And maybe they're going to make a trireme where we'll have three banks of seats on top of each other.

But why would they, don't they understand that right now it's so crowded, the bathrooms are so gross,

you can't, the service has gone down so much, the clientele is completely out of control.

Psychotic.

The people who work at the airports, the Skybridge operators or the baggage, there's no standards.

And the pilots that are over 40, because they fly sometimes, you know, free.

And maybe in the last five years, I've sat next to three pilots, and they all shake their head.

What guy going?

We were flying into Fresno and he turned to me and said, you live here?

I said, I live in the vicinity.

He said,

I hate this place.

And I said, why?

And he said,

how hard is it to operate a Skybridge?

How hard is it on a Sunday morning flight not to go drink at night, the night before, and come drunk?

And how hard?

He went through about 20 things that had happened.

Notorious.

You're probably going to get a lot of angry people from FAT, the airport, to say that's not fair.

This is the best.

But I've had a lot of problems at the Fresno airport.

Well,

I'll be there.

I'll be there in a couple of weeks.

So I'll have to experience it again.

Well, at least have some

adequate hotels and walking distance.

All right, Victor, let's lump these two things together.

Two issues as we close out the show.

Very important issues deal with energy.

The first is that Donald Trump this past week signed several executive orders

to boost nuclear energy and also

for related things, mining, etc.

So jump-starting the construction of nuclear reactors over the next four years to cut back on the regulatory madness.

So I think that's a terrific thing.

And then secondarily,

there's a troubling story.

China can cause blackouts in the U.S.

and Europe through solar inverter technology.

I forget where I found this article, and I meant to bring this up a couple of weeks ago, but here's it.

It begins.

Governments around the world are investigating

and banning Chinese inverters after radio and backdoor kill switches have been discovered.

So I guess if you have solar on your house or at your company,

the Chinese have it wired in a way that they could obviously turn it off.

I don't understand that.

I can understand that we're demonizing the Russians, what they're doing in Ukraine.

And every Hollywood movie,

the equalizer series, the bad guy is always a Russian oligarch or mafiosa.

But why did the Zilef give a pass to the Chinese?

Why did they swallow the pangolin story?

Why do they sympathize with the WHO that's Chinese dominated?

Why do they, don't they understand what the Chinese are trying to do to us?

But they never show the same amount of animus toward the Chinese as they do the Russians or the Iranians or the North Koreans.

I don't understand it.

I guess it's either because they have this soft spot that

they think China is being berated by Trump or they feel that there's been a history of Asian discrimination or it's the 300,000 Chinese students here every year.

I don't understand it.

But China is a belligerent.

It's an enemy of the United States.

It's a police police state, it's got a million people in labor camps, it's annexed and swallowed Tibet, it uses North Korea as an attack dog to disrupt the world, basically.

There's nothing commendable about that government, and yet

we don't criticize it in a way that we surely do the Russians.

And

at the height of the whole Cold War, we said to the Russians, you're not going to have 300,000 students over here taking our tech.

We're in a Cold War with China, and yet we got 300,000 students here.

And I don't understand it other than the greediness of the universities that charge them 110%.

So it's, and then there was a story about the Chinese grid that collapsed, and that was kind of it almost suggested that it was a kind of an experiment to see to what degree you could go all solar and wind.

You mean in Spain,

in Spain and Portugal?

Yeah, that it was controlled, kind kind of premeditated, and people died from that.

I think the left is going to have a come to

Jesus moment because

the tech industry is very left-wing.

Just all the coders that I see, when I go and have coffee in Palo Alto or Menlo, they all have got pink hair, and they're all sitting there railing about Donald Trump and how they hate him.

So they're all left-wing.

Maybe not the tech barons to the same degree, but the mid-level employees are.

But yet

there's two things that they're wedded to, and that is alternate energy, even in the hate Elon era.

That is EVs

and non-Musk EVs

and tech.

And there's two things that you need for that.

You need electricity.

For the EVs and for artificial intelligence, you need a lot of electricity.

And so there's not going to be, and if you can't burn, they don't want to burn burn coal, they don't want to be oil, they don't even want to burn natural gas.

And from what we've seen with wind and solar, it's very dangerous to rely on it.

So you get, and then, you know, Gavin Newsom blew up four hydroelectric plants on the Kalamath River.

So there's not a lot of places you can do hydro anymore.

And if you do do hydro, it's considered a contamination of ancestral burial grounds or Native American whitewater rivers.

So you're left with nuclear plants.

And that's why Trump is ordering them, because that's the only source of electricity that will be sufficient to fund if we go all EV,

it's the only source of electricity that has the capacity to

fuel the AI industry and to fuel

a whole fleet of electric vehicles

without increasing pollution.

Because if you're going to rely on, because you can't do it with wind and solar, it's not reliable.

But they don't want natural gas, they don't want coal.

And we'll see, but it's going to be interesting to see how the left reacts to the use of nuclear power.

Well, if you give China a kill switch, eventually they're going to turn it on.

I think people realize the Chinese government despises the United States.

They despise the United States because they feel it has a very vibrant, unpredictable culture, and it can be very subversive to their citizens when they're exposed to it.

So, when these students come over here and they go back home, they are afraid they're listening to American music or they're dressing like Americans or they've adopted American jargon and they're not, as they're all supposed to, file reports or have interviews with their handlers and tell them to what degree they came across valuable technological.

And they're worried.

In my view, it's a question of

will China be able to steal more technology by having 300,000

students here, maybe one or two or 4%, 5% are actively engaged in espionage.

That's what the figures that I've read suggest.

That's 300 to 5,000 maybe.

Or are we subverting them with our,

I don't know, rap culture, uncouth culture, and they become subversives when they get back to China?

And I have a feeling that that

left-wing dogma that we are changing people to appreciate our culture doesn't match up with the damage that's done through espionage by having all these students here.

I mentioned before in World War II, Jack, that all of the Japanese generals

and diplomats that had gone to the United States,

Admiral Yamamoto had been at Harvard University in the 20s.

Tojo himself had taken a train ride across the United States.

Matsaka, the foreign minister, had grown up as a foreign exchange student in Oregon.

Their experience with the United States, they did have a deep respect for its industrial capacity, but they were one of the reasons they did something stupid like Pearl Harbor

and to aggravate the United States earlier was they did believe that the United States was a decadent place and they wouldn't respond because they were either listening to jazz or they were can-can dancing or they were wild drunks or so they what I'm getting at to everybody is when people come into our culture we naturally think that we're so free and we're so vibrant we're so wealthy and they want to be like us and a lot of people come over here and they hate it.

Well, didn't G

spend some time here in Iowa?

I thought he

spent some time in America.

Yeah.

We don't make converts.

You can see that in the Middle East.

A lot of people from the Middle East that come over here, when they return, they're more anti-American than when they arrived.

Yeah.

We should be surprised.

I mean, envy is the core sin and has been since the Garden of Eden, so why wouldn't they be envying?

They look at our magnanimity and they don't reciprocate in kind, but they see it as weakness to be exploited rather than emulated or returned in kind.

Victor, I had to pull out my calculator because you mentioned the number of Chinese students and if it's 330,000 and if you just let's say they all went to a state college, which they all don't and they're spending about $30,000 a year because they pay full freight.

That's at least $10 billion a year in revenue to the higher ed institutions.

And to cut that out.

It's more than that.

Oh, I know.

Yeah.

It's a huge amount of money.

And that's why the universities won't.

We have a declining fertility rate, a a declining cohort of 18-year-olds, so they look to foreign students.

That's what the subtext is about Harvard's anger, about the Trump order, and the lower, you know, 150 countries they brag.

But what they're really saying is, we gouge foreign students and we make them pay the full amount of money, and it's a big money maker for us.

And we don't really care whether they're pro-Hamas people or they're agents for the Chinese government.

If anything, we like it because Gutter and the Chinese government have given us, in aggregate, 50 or 60 billion the last 50 years,

40 years to universities.

Well, Victor, I wanted to mention one thing as we end the show.

We have a little piece of business to conduct, but we were talking before about Joe Biden's lawyer and Joe Biden's three people who are maybe manipulating things in the office.

And that's Anita Dunn.

She's one of them.

And her husband is Bauer, Biden's lawyer,

who was the one chuckling and laughing during the Robert Her investigation.

So she was another example.

She told a little group of students that her favorite man in history was

Mel Sage.

Moussi Tung.

I like him.

You know, he mused people's hair up a little bit by killing 70 million of his own people.

But, you know, things happen.

You've got to break a few eggs for the communist omelette.

Yeah.

Well,

you've been terrific as ever and we have so many comments and I've tried to go through them on Rumble, Apple, your website, YouTube.

And as I mentioned, I think I mentioned earlier, maybe not,

I think about a quarter of the comments have to do with

cures for or prayers for Dr.

Hansen, Mr.

Hansen, etc.

For your science.

I'm not the character of it because Sammy got angry at me for mentioning it.

Oh, well, anyway, it was kind of a joke.

It's not a joke.

I mean, it hurts, but I'm going to have a, I'll have it all cleaned up with a procedure coming up as soon as I got the calendar clean.

But it was very interesting to me, the people that wrote, because I had,

it was a, I was interested in this because of their,

it was, um,

it was kind of an RFK reaction to chronic sinus infections, and they all said

what I had had learned over the years:

that

endless rounds of antibiotics are counterproductive, steros.

But they had all of these unique therapies.

And, you know, Victor, if you just hum four hours a day, it will break it up.

And I go, okay, I'm going to go do NIH humming.

And sure enough, there's a study.

Victor, if you get on all fours and look like a cow and put your head down in the

quadrupod position, the sinuses are not designed in humans.

The canals that empty this maxillary sinus go up on like a horse or a dog.

So you will have to get it like a horse or a dog and bend down and then it will drain.

And then somebody gave me the limp from a sinus.

And they all have historical support.

Right.

And so if you get it, if you're in enough pain for long enough,

you'll do all of them.

I have done all of them.

Okay.

Upside down, Victor.

I appreciate appreciate you.

Take pictures.

People are very nice to send them.

Oh, they are.

All right.

I have a few comments I want to read here, Victor.

This is from Drew Cartwright, who quickly writes, As refreshing as a cool glass of water on a hot day, VDH brings soothing relief with his calm, pinpointed commentary.

Thank you, Drew Cartwright.

Another one is from Philip Edwards, 9129, who writes, Dear Victor, Jack, and Sammy, I can't thank you enough for the hope you give me for the future of my family and and country.

Such good-tempered comments combined with such deep knowledge and

erudition.

You definitely keep me going.

Thank you.

And the final comment is from

B.

Rowan, 5480.

And we were talking, Victor, you were talking about, you know, the things are two generations ago, our grandparents, generation, what they did without the tools we have today, great things they accomplished.

So he writes,

my second second cousin, Tracy Abel, was the Los Angeles City and County Planning Commission's architect back in the 1950s.

It was his type of men and women back then and their predecessors in the 30s and 40s who built the aqueduct and made the planned civic growth of Los Angeles the envy of the world.

Uncle Tracy would be appalled by what Los Angeles has come today.

Amen.

They just arrested, remember that he was under a house arrest, the deputy mayor of Los Angeles.

Now they have arrested him and arraigned him.

He phoned in a bomb threat to the city council.

He was

Karen Bass's subordinate, AWOL, during the fires, but I think it has something to do with Israel and Palestine, a bomb threat.

So he should have taken, I guess he was tutored by Representative Bowman.

Yeah, maybe by Representative Bass, who was

a Cuban

Che Guevara Castro expert.

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