Iran's Nuclear Program, Man-Boy Solicitation, and Grooming Girls

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Listen to Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Jack Fowler discuss Trump's and Israel's options to prevent Iranian nuclear weapons, Great Britain's illegal immigration, the grooming of young girls, those who deal with the fallout from illegal immigration and those who don't, solicitation of boys 16 years of age, and Maine assault on democracy and free speech.

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I'm Jack Fowler, the man who is lucky enough to ask Victor some questions.

So here's a

pretty big

right down the plate, swing at it, Victor.

The Middle East.

We have Israel.

The Houthis

sent a missile over and hit Israel.

America responded with a couple of missiles.

And now the Israelis are engaged in dropping some bombs on

Yemen.

And then we have Donald Trump talking about Iran and how he would like to see Iran's nuclear program dismantled, which was unclear earlier this week where he stood.

So, Victor, a big ball of Middle East stuff.

Take it away.

Yes, his special Mideve,

Mideast envoy, Mr.

Stephen Witkoff, has given so many mixed signals, Jack, about 60%

enrichment, 70%, 80%, 90%.

And

I think they need to make this clear that Iran has the fifth largest

fossil fuels as defined by gas and oil in the world.

And they don't have that large of a population.

In other words, they don't need any other source of energy for the rest of their existence.

So when they want a nuclear program, it is for one purpose, to enrich uranium up to 90%,

to get enough enriched uranium to build 10 or 12

bombs.

I don't know how many of those they already have, maybe one or two, and then to put them, find a way to miniaturize them, to put them on

Chinese or North Korean-supplied missiles so that they can tell Israel,

if you do this or that, we're going to take you out, and then act as crazy as they are, and that's not acting, they are crazy, so that at any moment, to quote the former prime minister,

Mr.

Raffanjani, they can say,

you're a one-bomb state.

Everybody knows that.

So why are we negotiating with them?

We're negotiating with them for a variety of reasons.

Number one, the MAGA doctrine is no optional military use of force in the Middle East.

That's clear.

That's what he ran on.

That's what all that's is the Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, you name it, wing.

That's what's behind the fight with Pete Hexeth and the people who were removed.

They may have been leaking that Pete was under the capture of the neoconservatives.

There are no neoconservatives.

I don't know anymore.

They don't exist in the sense that they want to nation build and slay dragons all over the world.

But nevertheless, that's the problem.

Number one.

Number two,

Donald Trump does want to be a Nobel laureate.

I don't mean that in a deprecatory fashion at all.

He's done enormous things already with the Ukraine war.

We're closer than any moment in the Biden administration.

He would like to be the person who denuclearizes Iran.

The problem is that the people he's dealing with make Vladimir Putin look rational.

They're crazy.

And he has, he knows that right now now in this window, at this moment, he has more leverage than any other president has had in the half century into which these fanatics came into power.

There is no Assad

Arab receptacle for their terrorist money and arms to disperse.

There is no Hezbollah to speak of for another year, maybe.

There is no Hamas.

They're in the tunnels.

And the Houthis may send a missile, but they are scattered.

And Iran has no air defenses.

Israel proved that to the world.

So if Donald Trump wants to take out its nuclear facilities, he can do it with minimal risk.

So can Israel.

That's a lot of pressure.

So he thinks that he's going to tell them, this is your last chance over the next couple of months.

You can negotiate a deal with us, and

you will get to keep

your regime.

But we do not want you to send money to the Middle East, all of your tentacles.

No, they're cut off.

And I just don't believe they're ever going to do that.

That's their reason to be.

And they're very unpopular.

So now the question is, maximum pressure.

Are you going to keep pressuring them and pressuring them?

They have power outages, they have minority

resistance, they have popular pushback, but none of that in the past 50 years, even the Green Revolution that Obama basically ignored or wanted to fail, they've never been able to overthrow that government because it runs by terror.

And I don't think they will be able to.

So

sometime at the end of the year,

one of two things will happen.

They will feel the squeeze so much that they will try to cut a deal.

And if they do cut a deal, I can guarantee you they will break the deal in some manner or other.

That's who they are.

Or Donald Trump will do one of three things.

He will tell the Israelis, whatever's in your interest, go ahead and do it, and we will keep the Chinese and the Russians out and the North Koreans.

You can do what you want.

Or he will join a joint force with Israel.

That'll be a little tricky if he does that.

Or he will just do it himself.

And we kind of see that, Jack, with the Houthi reply.

Israel's going to reply and we are going to reply, but they're not joint operations.

They're separate.

And I don't know quite, I think the Houthis status is more like Hamas.

They're burrowed deep, they're

disconnected, but they don't have a big command and control center and one big depot.

They've scattered everything everywhere, and they're getting down to

a

small number of weapons.

But the idea that this hypersonic missile, and they bragged about it, they said it was a hypersonic missile, and they said they were able to shut down the Ben-Gurion airport, and they did for a few hours and they said they'll do it again.

No nation, no sovereign nation, no autonomous nation can have that happen.

You can't have an entity say you can't have an airport.

That's the whole nexus of travel and commerce.

So they're going to have to deal with that.

And the only way to deal with the Houthis is cut off the supply of where they're getting these weapons.

And they're only getting the weapons from one place.

and that is Iran.

So you either have to deal with removing the regime in Iran or destroying all of their depots and their ability to make these missiles.

That's where we are.

And Donald Trump's going to have a problem within the MAGA rank.

I wrote that article, New Criterion, when he

assumed office about the contradictions in MAGA between being a Jacksonian and a neo-isolation, a Buchananite or a Ron-Paulite.

And that's a lot of people.

He proved in the first administration when he bombed the proverbial blank blank out of ISIS, when he killed Mr.

Baghdadi, when he got rid of Soleimani, when he wiped out the Wagner group, that he is perfectly capable of retaliatory, responsive strikes to ensure U.S.

deterrence.

And I think that's what he'll do.

I think he'll negotiate all summer long, and at some point it'll dawn on him that they're playing him.

And then he will then bring in his commanders and say, what is the feasibility?

And they'll say, if you're ever going to do this, this is the year to do it.

Because the surrogates are,

you know, they're cut off from the octopus head and

they're flopping around on the deck.

They can't, the dock, they can't do anything.

They can't hurt anybody right now.

And it's an unpopular regime.

It's just a matter of then

how you do it.

Do you do everything?

Do you take out the nuclear

enrichment sites?

Do you try to bomb anything you think might be a depot of one or two stray bombs that are somewhere in the country?

Do you take out the port facilities and spike oil prices?

Do you take out all of its military capability?

And what degree of punishment do you inflict on the Iranian people, if any?

So

these are all complex questions.

There's no real sense of peace, though, Victor, unless this regime is somehow overthrown or destroyed.

So I wonder how nuanced that is for the MAGA

coalition.

Not against nation-building, yes,

but this is really a matter of defense of us because these SOBs want to come get us sooner or later.

Did you see that the Brits stopped some terror attack, Iranian terrorist attack?

They caught four or maybe even five Iranian terrorists, and they were on the verge, according to the Brits, at a

World War II anniversary

parade.

They were going to stage a

spectacular terrorist attack according to the authorities and these were the people who tried to kill Donald Trump as we know that

and they they've blown up Jews in Argentina they killed dissidents they've killed dissidents in the United States they tried to kill a Saudi ambassador in the United States a few years ago they're completely out of control and it's just a question of how and then they have people as we've we've talked about that have infiltrated sympathizers I mean the Harvard University just let one of their board of governors of their Middle East program go because he had

pro-Hamas sympathies, and we have people in the Pentagon that had pro-Iran sympathies during the Biden years.

So they're deeply involved in the United States and Europe, and they hate us with a passion.

And they have a chip on their shoulder.

In the Middle East, they feel that the Shia, the Persians

have been persecuted.

They have been the minority religion.

They have been the minority race.

The Sunni Arabs

have all the power.

And under Obama, they felt, given those Ja'vere and Kerry talks, which, by the way, went on apparently stealthily during the Trump first administration, so much for the left-wing's

celebration of the Logan Act.

But anyway, the point is they feel that Obama had empowered them as a legitimate half of the Middle East, and then the other Sunni half, they would fight back and forth, and then Obama would adjudicate.

So they are, you know, there's nothing positive about them.

Everybody likes Iranians.

They're nice people.

They've had a distinguished history going back to the augmented dynasty.

I mean, they're a very sophisticated society, but

for some reason, I think a lot of it is they've lost millions of people who have left.

Some of their top people have left, but they don't have a nucleus that is going to rise up and take power.

Everybody says they are and they're not.

No matter how bad it gets, no matter if we put the squeeze on them, if power out, it's not going to happen.

And everybody seems to know it.

The only way to do it is to defang it.

I don't know what the react.

I'm not a Persian expert.

I don't know what the reaction would be among the Iranian people, whether their feeling of patriotism and anger at the West for defanging the theocracy's nuclear capability would outweigh their delight in seeing this government humiliated.

Right.

Get mixed signals.

Israel humiliated it when it took out some of its air defenses, and you got both.

We were told people liked that, and we were told people were angry about it.

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Victor, since I mentioned

Britain, let's

stick with Britain.

There were local elections last week, and Nigel Farage, who founded UKIP,

and

along with Dan Hannon, kind of like a left-right, little highbrow, little, well, I don't want to call Nigel Farage lowbrow, but he certainly has the common touch.

God, guy survived an airplane crash, also.

He's a remarkable guy.

Anyway, his reform party made huge local gains in local elections, took over a number of municipalities, coming at the expense mostly of the British Tories, the Tory government, but also at the expense of Labor.

So

they are running reform is now in charge of some cities, and Farage came out today with some comments about how they are going to stop

this practice of just taking over hotels and putting these,

are they illegal immigrants in England?

I don't know.

I'll call them that.

Oh, yes, there are.

Destroying these cities and destroying England, I think.

So anyway, it's an interesting

turn of events there.

I don't know that it's particularly surprising, but what are your thoughts about Farage and what he's done here with reform?

Well, you know, I think a lot of these

conservative parties that have been in the wilderness have

they're very enthused about Donald Trump.

Not just that he was elected, but it's electrifying.

If you read some of the European newspapers, when they look at the border, because they imagine themselves in a similar position, they have been told for years that you either, in the globalized world of Plauschwab, etc., in the UN, you don't enforce a border.

That's a 19th-century relic.

Or they have been told that they cannot really control borders.

Fences are inadequate, which is a lie or a wall.

Or they have been told that it's not good, that you need they have a failing Europeans are about 1.4 in their fertility rate, and therefore they need the people.

Elon Musk has been very eloquent.

He's absolutely right and he's the most candid that when we try to find an answer for the inexplicable, why would Joe Biden let 12 million people in without any audit at the same time they were harassing Americans in 2021 for not having the Moderna-the Pfizer vaccination, or they were drumming people out of the military, some of our best soldiers, and yet you were letting these people come right across the border with no audit, no measles audit, nothing.

And the answer was they wanted constituents.

They wanted constituents for big government.

They wanted to swell the people dependent on social welfare.

They wanted mail-in and early voters.

And that the same is true I think in Europe.

They want cheap labor but they also want the classic constituency for left-wing redistribution big government.

So my point is they look at Trump and they say, you know, he actually kind of solved the problem and it's not, it's not, it is solvable.

And he's kind of

empowered people in Poland, but especially in Hungary, the Czech Republic, Romania, and

now in Britain.

And

Farage is sort of like the alternative for Deutschland in the sense that

he's beyond the pale as far as conservatives.

The conservatives in the Europe, if everybody looks at the European political system, it is one step to the left.

So

their liberal or labor party is like AOC,

the extreme wing.

Our Democratic Party, the old Democrat, is their conservative party.

And what they call fascist, right-wing, beyond the pale, right-wing is sort of just mainstream MA.

And I think maybe,

and so

they can't stand that.

Their whole European project has about seven things that you can't question.

You cannot question over-regulation, you cannot question big deficits, you cannot question transgenderism, you cannot question climate change, you cannot question open borders.

To do any of that makes you a right-wing fascist Hitler.

And they're trying to, as you saw with the AFD, they won't even let them form a political party alliance with some of the conservative.

Conservatives don't like them.

And the same thing with Farage.

He's considered

taboo.

But the problem they're having is that

Europe doesn't work and Britain doesn't work.

And when I say that, I just look at, I don't get any delight out of it.

I would love them to be prosperous and strong like they have been.

But when you look at their fertility rate at 1.4 something,

and then you look at their GDP,

Germany has been flat for two years.

The EU is anemic.

And then you look at their

wind and solar, and their

green,

the Green New Deal.

You look what's happened in Spain and Portugal with these massive outings.

You look at the price of energy in Germany is four times what it is in the United States in most places.

And then you look at the borders.

When you're getting up in some of these countries, 15, 16, 17% of people not born in your country, and unlike the United States, it seems to integrate, intermarry, and assimilate people much easier.

and we're having a problem with it.

You go to Germany and you go to areas of Berlin, it looks like the Middle East, and you go to areas outside Rotterdam or outside Paris, those outer boroughs, it's the same thing.

And these people are coming over there not because they want to be French or German or British.

They feel that Westerners are rich and leisured and decadent.

and they want to come over and through demographics become the dominant force and

institutionalize Islam, and they hate European tradition.

And they're going to try to do through demography what arms could not.

And that's just a fact.

And so there's people in these countries that say, not on my watch, I'm going to stop this, just like Trump in

mutatus mutanis with different conditions.

Trump is saying the same thing, and they're energized by Trump because he seems to be successful.

And we'll see how

as this populist

backlash rises, the more that they go after Farage, or the more they go after the Romanian Conservatives, or the more they go after the AFDF, it's going to just, it's like,

you know, it's like heating up the kettle and not letting the steam out.

It's going to get more and more and more.

If they were wise, they would let these people participate in the main body politic.

They would tell the media, don't demonize them.

They're not Hitler.

They have legitimate gripes that represent a majority of the population.

But they're not going to do that.

Europe is run by people like AOC.

That's the simplest explanation.

If you took AOC over there and you let that half-educated demagogue talk to those people, they would agree with everything she said.

She would be a hero.

Maybe she is.

Layered onto the British situation, Victor, is the grooming scandal, which

I remain remain shocked over.

It's been going on for so long.

These rape gangs protected by the local governments who have been afraid to arrest or enforce or protect these usually white

young women who are just

always in the hands of these perverted men, mostly Pakistani, and you have a nation sitting there watching this happen and there's nothing being done about it.

There's no justice being and I hope it's not.

This gets into the boiling over aspect.

It's a plague upon Western civilization in general.

One of the greatest tragedies, and the worst thing in my life

is to watch the collapse of Western jurisprudence.

And by that I mean the law is being used

to

achieve political purposes.

And I mean that not in the generic sense, but left-wing political purposes.

So your racial background, your religious background, your political ideology, that determines the degree to which if you're a prosecutor in Minnesota and somebody has vandalized and terrorized people about Tesla, you're not going to be prosecuted.

Not like if

you walked into the rotunda when the door was open, you walked around in gaze and you didn't do anything.

not one violent act, you could be, and you were, arrested and put in jail for four or five months months or longer because you were a political prisoner.

And that's the scary thing.

And when we see these big city in the United States, we see these big city prosecutors are letting these felons out to prey on almost everybody who's injured by an illegal alien.

We learn that the person was let out qua illegal alien.

It was an idea that, and we saw that reified with Judge Dugan.

She was a very valuable exemplar because she to us,

this is the left-wing attitude.

We feel that our moral compass is stronger than the law, and even custodians of the law will not follow it if we feel, in our considered opinion, that it doesn't have moral force.

So I have determined that letting an illegal alien out

denying the victims of his brutality and violence to see justice in my courtroom and to impede federal officers in an entirely federal matter.

They have a detainer on him and to risk their lives if they have to go out of the courtroom and chase him down and who knows what level of violence.

I don't care about that.

I'm going to break all those statutes and protocols.

And that's what's wrong with the law.

We saw it with Alvin Bragg and Fannie Willis and Jack Smith and Atisha James and Judge Ingoron.

We saw it with the two-faced treatment of Donald Trump's documents versus Joe Biden's documents.

We've seen it everywhere in Europe, the way they ⁇ they have never said to a...

You know, I was laughing at the AFD, what they did to them and the Romanians.

Don't you remember during the 70s, Jack?

I think you're a little younger than I am, but you can remember.

Remember the Communist Party came to power as a coalition in Italy?

And these Communist parties were open.

Nobody ever outlawed the Communist Party.

They were the direct descendants of a Communist Party that at one time controlled the Soviet Union and China that was responsible between the two of them, 100 million deaths.

And no European said we're going to outlaw the Communist Party, even though we were in a Cold War with the Soviet Union and we knew that Communist parties in Europe, when they came to power, had leaked and tried to pass information to our existentialists.

Even in the 80s, the French Communist Party had a noticeable representation in the United States.

Yes, and it's just so the left has taken the law and they have used it in lieu of popular support to destroy their enemies.

They can't win.

And in the United States, the Democratic Party has decided the following.

We stand for biological men and women's sports, and there's no support.

We stand for an open

border.

There's no support.

We stand against all deportations, and there's no support.

We stand

for decriminalizing the law.

There's no support.

We stand for modern monetary theory, and there's no support.

We stand for woke DEI racial preferences bias and prejudice, and there's no support.

Therefore, we only have two alternatives.

Actually, maybe they have three.

We are going to use a federal lower court system and empower these judges who want to be famous to expand their authority well beyond their regional districts.

And

I guess you would call them judge, jury, and executors.

Establish the law as we want it that nobody wants.

That's number one.

Or number two, we are going to use the media to so demonize

and call our opponents Hitler, fascist,

ASSH,

all this potty talk, all these smutty videos.

We're going to create so much chaos that you just want Donald Trump out.

We don't care if it's his fault or not, but if we got him out, then things would be nice.

We'd be back to the Biden years.

Or,

and that's the other thing,

or we're just not going to, we don't follow the law.

The law doesn't, for us, it does not exist.

For you, it does.

So you don't dare, ever, ever impeach

a Democratic president.

We're going to try to do Trump a third time.

You don't dare say that Joe Biden's family is crooked and go raid his home after he's president.

We did that to Donald Trump.

You don't dare try to take a Democrat off the ballot if you're in a red state.

We did that in 25 cities.

So that's where we are.

And again, the common denominator, they don't have popular support.

Nobody wants that agenda.

Nobody.

Even the mainstream Democrats don't.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, we're going to pound down more on that because there's a real terrible situation, I think, in Maine.

I'm pretty sure you think it also.

So we have some Maine politics.

Another follow-up on law fair.

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It's a gloomy California.

Nada.

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Hey, Jack, I have a little idea.

Oh, yeah.

We were talking about illegal immigration in Europe.

Yeah.

And all of these people, like Judge Dugan, are removed from the actual consequences of illegal.

So I was walking today on a farm that my great-great-grandmother and her sons,

my great-grandfather, came.

And it was an Artesian pond.

It's right next to it.

My siblings who inherited that part of the farm sold it.

But here, I don't know if you can see it, but here's what it looked like this morning.

Dang.

Well,

it's far worse than when you've talked about it.

Yeah.

Yeah, there it is.

Yep.

And there were some nice appliances floating in there.

And all of the literature had two things in common, the trash, the wet garbage, because I kind of poked around it.

One, it was all in Spanish, and two, there was not one indication of one envelope where the address was still there.

It had been filtered.

And

two nights ago, somebody was walking on the place and I came around on my property and he came around in a four-wheeler about 40 miles an hour, almost hit me.

And I jumped out in front of him.

They had kind of

road warrior big kind of goggles and helmets and they were Hispanic and I was talking to them and I think they had some connection with what I saw.

But they told me that, I said, this is my property.

That didn't register.

I I mean, there's no sense that it's your property.

It's our property.

That's the left-wing idea.

There is no such thing as.

But they said,

yes, that they were on my property, but they were patrolling it to make sure that people didn't throw trash.

And I said, if you're patrolling it for me, that they don't

throw trash, you're doing a very poor job.

Well, we're trying to get better.

And then.

How old were they?

Oh, they were about 25, 30.

But one guy was very surly.

He didn't like the idea that the other person was trying to be cooperative.

And I don't know if they had arms or what.

But my point is, when all of these people, like Judge Dugan, talk about illegal immigration and

they don't ever think of the consequences.

So illegal alien A comes in and breaks the law, then if he comes in without impunity and with exemption, then he thinks they must want me here.

So then I'm going to reside illegally.

If I have to reside illegally to facilitate my illegality, maybe I'll get by a false ID.

And then they're going to put me in an area with other illegal aliens where we're all going to be exempt from worry about until Trump.

And so when I look at my environs, I see all these ancient farmhouses and I see 10, 20 people.

So I said to these people, which compound do you live at?

The one with 50 people, the one with 30 people, the one with 20 people, the one with the horses, the one with the chickens, the one with the 40 dogs?

Which one?

And they just said somewhere.

They didn't want to say.

But my point is that these are the real things that happen to people in their daily lives.

And when you call up a doctor you know or a specialist and they say, well, you have a sinus infection, well, we can get you in in two months.

And then you go to a urologist or one of the specialists, and there used to be three people in the waiting room and there's 15.

And you have two minutes rather than 10 or 15.

That's the reality in places like California.

40% of the state is on Medicaid, what we call Medi-Cal.

And many of them just came across the border.

So Judge Dugan is a very caring person.

Yes, she is.

And she goes back to her very caring house and shuts the door with her very caring, nice neighborhood.

And the same as all these lawyers are now trying to sue and stop on the theory that it was okay and lawful to break the law and allow 12 million people in, but it is illegal and unlawful now to enforce the law and ask them to go back home where they came from.

So we don't have one person

who

was stopped at the border and said, you can't go anywhere because we have to have due process.

You're illegally doing, you're breaking the law right now.

We're going to detain you, put you in a cell, and you're going to wait until we can give you a judge.

No, you just go.

But

if we apprehend you and we want to send you back, well then we have to have 12 million of these hearings and you can show up because we'll give you good lawyers.

That's the idea behind it.

But what I was getting at with this cheap little performance art trick was that's what people's land looks like when you have

massive amounts of a demographic that has large percentages of people here illegally.

And

they have the idea that, you know what, I'm living, there's 10 or 12 of us here, we only have one garbage can we have to pay for.

They do one of two things.

They either just throw their trash out or some of them are entrepreneurial.

They'll go around to other illegal communities with a truck and say, hey, I'm the garbage man.

They'll pay them money and then they'll come out outside to a farm.

Then I drove this morning right around the corner on a big

the person who farms my place farms this place as well, but it's got a big,

it has ample space between the road and the almond orchard.

And you should see it, Jack.

That poor guy, he goes through there every week to take stuff out.

There is a refrigerator.

There is cars and seats that have taken out of a wrecked car.

There is a washing machine.

There is

tons of plastic

child seats from a car.

There's everything thrown along the side of the road.

And all of the standpipes have red and blue, block, gang, gothic.

It's just,

it's like nothing's ever seen.

And what we're supposed to do is say,

Victor, you don't judge these things.

You lived in a racist, sexist, illiberal society in the 50s, 60s, and 70s when this didn't exist.

So this is karma for you and people like you because the other now is in control and we don't worry about little petty things like whether you're a citizen or whether you came in legally or whether you have a green card or whether you know the language of the country of which you want to venture into or the civic nature of its constitution.

Nothing.

We're just going to throw stuff out.

And it's all empowered by the wealthy bicost elite who make these laws that never suffer any of this.

They never have anything.

I see them because I work with them at Stanford.

I would encourage you to put those pictures up on your website.

I think I will.

I did once, and it's all

I mean, it's not as bad as once.

Once I had a 600-foot row, 600 feet, and a flatbed came out.

I could see the tire tracks, and he unloaded the whole thing.

600 feet

of

light bulbs, neon bulbs,

used paint cans, wet garbage.

There was some kind of dead from a chicken rant, dead chickens, everything.

And he just threw it in between the vineyard.

And when I called the sheriff, I think I mentioned this, the sheriff said, you've got a problem, Mr.

Hansen,

because you didn't see the person do it.

and all of this is toxic.

And California environmental law says you've got to get rid of it.

And you can only get rid of it by calling a licensed environmental person.

Otherwise, you're going to be cited

for suspicion of dumping all of your own trash here.

I said, Yes, I would dump my own trash in my own vineyard.

And so I had to dispose of it myself, and I filtered through it for about, I don't know, six months and tried to put stuff in the bin that was the, but they wanted me to cart it all the way to a hazardous waste dump.

And that time, because the person who dumped it

was a carrier, he didn't care about sifting through it.

He told the, maybe he told the people he was legit.

So there were names and addresses there, Jack, and I gave them to the law enforcement officer.

And he just said, I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to go to these people's homes.

So that's where you are.

And

it's so funny about the left.

All of this goes up against their cherished.

If you notice about the cherished thing about the left, they always told us that one of the canons of liberalism was ecology and environmentalism.

And yet they judge environmentalism not by the act itself, of the desecration of the environment.

And by that I mean when the pond fills up like the snow melt is hard.

It's very sad to see this ancient.

I used to swim in it, and you see now diapers floating on the top and trash and

plastic bottle all over.

It is environmental desecration.

But because the people who did it are an exempt group, then there's no such thing.

It's kind of like

transgenderism.

We always thought female sports were going to catch up and get equity and parity and inclusion and diversity with male sports.

And then all of a sudden a new cause celeb for the left puts puts them down on the moral ledger and suddenly transgender men have preference and if they can beat the heck out of a woman in a boxing match or a volleyball it doesn't matter that's the new left-wing cause celeb or it's the same thing about violence toward women we were told during me too the worst thing even harvey weinstein was he ever convicted of hitting a woman i don't think hitting

sexual assault maybe on for yes but i don't know if he actually beat up a woman but we've had all these incidents of men hitting women.

The first, the second husband of the United States.

Doug, there were two people who said that he slapped a woman.

And he should have been charged with assault.

And we had Mr.

Obrego Garcia, and there was new information out, as you saw, Jack, over the weekend,

that she said that she woke up in the middle of the night and he was assaulting her.

He assaulted the children.

He put them in danger.

She was afraid, she said, that he would kill her and no one would care.

And she was afraid of his family.

And

nobody cares.

And so suddenly the women, after the Me Too

problem, and then we saw the person in Judge Dugan, I think his name was Flores, was it Flores Ruiz, and he beat up, he didn't like the music, so he beat up his roommate 30 times, and he beat up his girlfriend, the roommate's girlfriend, and he beat up the peacemaker that was trying to separate them.

And Judge Dugan, who must be a feminist, says, you know, I don't really care that he beat up a woman.

He's a new cause celeb, and illegal aliens under the Trump administration now have a higher moral score than women who get beat up.

So that's my cause, and I don't care about the other causes.

Well, Luigi.

If Luigi, whatever his last name is, Mani.

Mangione.

She may have.

Mangione, you're an Italian.

Come on.

Yeah,

what if he was in her court?

Would she have not let him out the side door, too?

I wonder if she has her ticket to the opera, comic opera about his life that's being played in San Francisco.

This happened five months ago, right?

The murder happened.

And already the art community, the left-wing art community of the United States has some musical about this guy.

He killed a man who was born from the lower middle class, worked himself up, had two children, orphaned them, and no one cares on the left.

He's a hero.

Just like we had the same thing with Elon Musk had a tweet.

I don't know if it's accurate.

I do know that half of it's accurate.

Half of it is the Media Research Center, and we know that group.

They do good work.

96% of all news coverage was negative of Elon Musk.

Elon said that it was the same as the news coverage of Obrego Garcia, which was positive.

96% positive.

I couldn't find whether that was true, so I can't make that statement.

But I do know that most, I did do Google searches when I read that, and every single thing when I said Obrego Garcia, I wrote Obrega Garcia,

wife beater, Obrega Garcia, Obrego Garcia, assaulter, illegal.

I used every pejorative word and everything that came up was still positive on Google, given their algorithms.

And so here's a man who reinvented,

I shouldn't say invented the EV industry, saved NASA, saved social media, gives

more

satellites than all the governments probably in the world put together.

And

he's demonized.

This is a very sick group of people, the left, that are doing these things.

They have to do it.

Can you tell you one thing on the back end?

The back end of this also, Victor, is in New York, there was an article in the New York Post this weekend.

The 48th convicted cop killer

is having his parole hearing.

47,

since 2018, when the laws were changed here, when Andrew Cuomo, who's now running for mayor of New York City, when he was governor, they passed a whole new parole apparatus and filled the parole board with left-wingers.

47 guys who have murdered New York City police officers have been given parole.

And some of them have been like directly assassinated.

You know, it wasn't a gunfight.

It was come up behind you

in a cop car and blow your brains out.

And this is what jurisprudence is.

This is the other end of law fare.

I think what it's doing is building, building, building, building up.

So the left is just shocked of after the hundred days and the 96

also negative of Donald Trump and all of the fake polls, Larry Kudlow was very eloquent showing that, that they were fake, and that they deliberately underrepresented by a third Trump voters who were underpolled, so they would get this only 43, 44 percent of Trump.

But the point is

that

we're getting to the point now where they can't figure out why Trump is popular because Erasmus had him 50-49.

Trafalgar Insider Advantage had him 46-44.

After all they've done, 95% he's still popular.

He's popular because of the things we talked about.

He's popular because of Trump as Trump, but he's also popular because of the alternative.

The alternative is anti-civilization.

It's chaos.

It's barbarism.

It's tribalism.

It's pre-civilizational.

And just to put a finale to our mutual rant, did you see in the California legislature legislature that

they passed a bill, which Gavin Newsom says he's going to oppose, to

almost decriminalize, to end felony consequences for older men to solicit sex from 16 and 17-year-old boys.

And that has been a part, if you looked at that man-boy love association and that idea of resurrecting ancient pederisty, which we read about in Greek literature from Plato to Anacreon, it's everywhere.

But they really do feel that they're Greek philosophers, and if they cloak their

unlawful and amoral desires to have sex with a young boy, I think 16 qualifies for that, and they can cloak it with some type of

intellectual rigor or moral philosophizing, then they think they're Socrates or Plato or something, although Socrates never reified his lust.

They were all, we were told, and Plato intellectual.

But

that is really sick.

And I thought that the left wing always said, we're here for the children.

That's what Hillary said.

That's what Nancy Pelosi said.

This is all about the children.

We're here to protect kids.

We're here to protect kids.

That's what the sex traffickers are there for.

They're there for the children also.

Yeah, so what do you is do you really believe that a grown man who drives in his car and drives down somewhere in West Hollywood and sees a 16-year-old boy walking along and gets out of his car and walks up to him and offers him $200, that he's worried about

his moral education?

Is that what it is?

Petervisti, is that what it is?

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Victor, before we get to our last

break,

you were about that bill you were talking about.

Guy Benson posted something, but he posted a tweet that was about

an Assembly Democrat, Mark Gonzalez, who's from Los Angeles.

He went on an unhinged rant.

He attacked a, I believe, he's a gay Republican member of the state assembly, Carl DeMayo, attacked him for being gay, but somehow voting against the civil rights, I love this, quote-unquote, civil rights of gay people by wanting to make it a felony to solicit 16 and 17-year-olds.

So now that is a civil, the expansion of that concept of civil rights by the LGBTQ plus community is kind of staggering.

Yeah, Yeah, I think

Guy, who's a very bright and principled person, was, I think he's trying to say, either explicitly, but I think explicitly and overtly, is that this is not supported by the gay community who has the same worries about

the detrimental effect of sexual intercourse on young people, usually in an asymmetrical fashion, than the heterosexual community.

And we would, if it's felonious to go out and pick up a 16-year-old girl and then have sex with her, then it should be the same thing regardless of one's sexual orientation.

But Mr.

Gonzalez, if you follow his train of thought,

follow it through, Jack.

He's saying

Mr.

Smith goes out and he picks up knowingly a 16-year-old boy and he has sexual Congress with this boy, whether he pays him or not, and therefore he should get a misdemeanor slap on the wrist.

Most misdemeanors, people, they're just booked and they go home.

And sometimes they're not even booked immediately.

That's what he's saying should be the penalty.

And I think he's saying that gay people, because they're a persecuted minority, he thinks, that should get special exemption.

But I thought his party cared about the children, and he doesn't, obviously.

And

I've never seen times like this, never have seen times like this in my entire life.

It's not just that I'm old and cranky, but I've never seen it before.

Not even during the craziness of the 60s.

We had more terrorism than violent, but not like this.

Not this idea that a man can say that he is a woman and then go in in a boxing or fencing match and defeat a woman.

And then,

you know, when he's a mediocre athlete and

when transgendered males, that is women who become males, don't win one single event.

And we're supposed to think that it doesn't matter what your biological sex was.

Victor, I want to encourage our listeners and viewers to check out a City Journal, which you're on the masthead of that, as a contributor.

There's a piece by Christina Buttons.

about man-boy love.

It's titled, This Group Wants to Affirm Pedophilia.

So I guess this past weekend, there's a group called Before You Act, a Maryland-based organization that's pro-pedophilia.

And

they were hosting a conference in Ohio to train mental health providers in affirmative MAP

therapy.

MAP means minor attractive persons.

So, this is,

I know we're going to see this justified through the mental health community, that these, the MAP is a real thing and it's natural, it's not some perversion.

Anyway, this is what happens,

is happening right now, and I want to recommend that article to folks.

Yeah, I think we're in the third stage, and the third and last stage of liberalism.

Liberalism started,

I think,

it was I mean, it was a flawed idea in most of its manifestations, but it was trying to get equality of opportunity for blacks, for women, for everybody in the fifties and sixties, greater

and legislated.

And then the second stage was,

well, we did that, but we still don't have a quality of result.

So therefore, they began affirmative action, diversity, and they wanted an equality mandated on the back end.

We called it proportional representation or disparate impact.

But we didn't really care about the individual.

We just wanted demographics to show that we had gone into stage two of the civil rights movement.

Now we're in the lunatic stage three,

in which all of the liberal canons of stage one and two are thrown out because we want to make mainstream or equal or make sure that people who we would prior have called criminals, that is people who prey sexually on youth, or felons that are in jail and should not be voting when they come out, or people who kill policemen.

We feel that they are the last horizon of victims.

And we're going to use all of our influence to make sure that they're just like us and they don't face any consequences for their deviant behavior because we don't believe it's deviant.

We think that a bunch of white Christian heterosexuals, I'm quoting Susan Rice now when she got fired from the Defense Policy Board by Pete Heckseth.

White Christian, cisgendered, male has

gone after us.

They feel that they have gone after us and set arbitrary rules against us.

Just because a white Christian cisgendered male doesn't shoot policemen as often as other people may not, I don't know the demographics.

Please correct me if the FBI statistics prove me wrong.

That doesn't,

that's the only reason it's illegal.

Just because white cisgender Christian males do not solicit young boys in the same percentage as other people.

They made a law against it, Jack.

They don't like Michael Jordan air shoes, so they say you can't steal them.

That's the critical legal theory.

That's what it's about.

And

it's really...

I keep going back to this famous novel.

It was written in the age of Nero, probably 60 AD to 65.

It was one of my PhD

areas of interest, the Latin text of the Petronius of Satiricum.

But everything I just talked about is in there.

Everything.

Transgenderism,

sexual violence, pedophilia, pederasty,

gluttony,

ostentatious wealth, nudity,

child pornography, you name it, it's in there.

And it's all, it's a bitter, satirical novel to show what the leisure and affluence of the early Roman Empire has done to the old Italian agrarian ethos, and it's destroyed them.

And Tromalchio is the gluttonous,

half-educated bore, and all the sophisticated people who are at the dinner making fun of him are themselves worse.

It's just the most damning portrait of a society that has destroyed its legacy and heritage.

It's very modern, but

cross-dressing, it's in

transvestism, transgenderism, transsexualism,

sexual assault, sexual battery, pedophilia, pederasty, pederasty, everything is in there.

Pornography is in there.

Well, there seems to be a bottoming out of the

irreligiosity of the people leaving faith and some signs of renewal of belief.

So I have a feeling, Victor, these things in our world now and 2025 are connected, religious worship and these variations of depravity or weirdness.

I think you're right.

I think they're afraid when all this hysteria about the hundred days, they're afraid it might work.

And if it worked, it would be, it's the first time that a Republican president has tried to wage a true counter-revolution.

Reagan didn't do it.

George H.W.

Bush turned on Reagan with a kinder, gentler nation, read my lips.

George W.

Bush was more conservative, but even he didn't try to do this.

This president is saying that in the 11th hour, we're going to wage a cultural, social, economic, political, diplomatic, military counter-revolution.

We're going to stop all of this.

We're going to make these universities return to their proper role.

We're going to tell the PBS and corporate NPR propagandists, you can't do that on a public dime.

It's really multifaceted.

And part of that is

a traditionalist emphasis on religion and also on the American founding.

And the whole theme is you don't have to be perfect to be good.

And America was always better than the alternative.

And your desire or your demand that we have to be perfect according to your 21st century

mora is it's irrelevant.

That's never happened in history.

Sorry, we're not going to play that game.

That's what he's doing.

It's backed up in the rhetoric of his executive orders.

I encourage people to read them.

Go to the whitehouse.gov website, click on executive actions, look at the text of these executive orders.

I mean, it is very much in line, totally in line, Victor, with what you're saying.

We are fighting a cultural battle here.

And it's not holding back the dawn.

It's not pussyfooting.

It's not a rearguard action.

This is a battle.

No, he's saying...

You don't have to go to a museum and see a bunch of excretement thrown on the canvas and say that's art.

We're going to champion classical art, Impressionist art.

You're not going to have to see a building that looks like a tinker toy and say that's a great piece of architecture.

We're going to try to bring back appreciation

for

neoclassical architecture, sculpture.

We've talked about that before with Sabin Howard, you know.

Yeah, and

we're trying to do this all across the board.

Great literature

and

religious liberty.

He just put the

Religious Liberty Commission and

one after the other.

It's really

almost breathtaking.

And there's a lot of people who want to join this.

And that's why they're angry, is what I'm getting at.

The Hundred Days, they think this guy,

I don't know what he's doing, but he's trying to wreck the liberal progressive socialist communist project.

And he

we don't know where he got these ideas, but when he closed the border, when he

is

re-establishing deterrence, when he is getting people to pump more oil, he's trying to get prices down for the middle class.

62%, Jack, of Hispanics polled in that response.

That was the highest ethnic group favoring Trump.

I had been saying that in these podcasts, that every time I went into my local community, and I was stopped by a Mexican-American male, but all Mexican-Americans, and they mentioned politics, they were overwhelmingly for Trump.

They didn't give a blank blank about the stock market.

They did give a lot of attention to the price of gas, the price of electricity, the regulations, how hard it was for them if they were contractors, the lack of good paying jobs, the crime that people dumped in their neighborhoods that were illegal, the lack of law enforcement.

It was

something's going to happen because because the Latino community's leadership is left-wing, mostly, at least, yeah, and they don't represent the people that they say they represent.

I saw that Sheriff

Villanueva, remember him, the Los Angeles sheriff, who was a Democrat.

He was kind of during the early days of COVID, kind of extreme and enforcing those rules, and he was a Democratic stalwart.

He's now flipped to the Republican Party.

I think he's probably going to run for governor.

Yeah.

Well, something.

Let us pray.

Hey, Victor, we have time for one more topic.

I mentioned earlier: Maine and some political hijinks going on up there, and it's really much in line with what we've been talking about on this show today.

And we're going to get your thoughts on this when we come back from these final important messages.

And we're back live during a flex alert.

Oh, we're pre-cooling before 4 p.m., folks.

And that's the end of the third.

Time to set it back to 78 from 4 to 9 p.m.

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Victor, here's a headline.

Maine's shocking assault on democracy and free speech.

And I'll just read this quickly.

The Democrat, talk about tone deaf to what's going on.

And remember, you know, 80% of Americans do not like, oppose men in women's sports.

The Democrat majority in the main House of Representatives on a party line vote has stripped Republican Laurel Libby not only of her right to speak on the floor, but of her right to vote in the chamber, leaving her constituents effectively unrepresented.

It did this solely to punish Libby, a Republican, for dissenting from the Democrat Party line on transgender athletes in women's and girls' sports.

Now, Victor, it seems like Representative Libby has taken this case to the Supreme Court asking for some emergency action.

Thus far, Justice Kantaji Brown Jackson, I guess it's her district,

the North New England, has slow walked the emergency application, sitting on it for three days, and then yesterday asking for a response to be filed by next Thursday, which is actually this coming Thursday, blah, blah, blah.

So anyway, Victor, Victor, Tony.

That's logical, isn't it?

She was the one during her confirmation hearing that was asked to define a woman, remember?

She said she was unable to define a woman.

So maybe she's still confused about that.

There was also a survey, did you see it, Jack, about the nine justices?

And it was about those who had the most speech, who talked the most in minutes, and they ranked them.

No, I didn't see this.

Clarence Thomas says the least, I think.

Well, it was kind of gender-specific.

The three most vocal were, she was first Justice Brown, and then Kagan and then Comey Barrett.

And the men were less

talkative.

But she was

the latest, most recent appointee, but also the loudest in the sense of talking all the time.

But this whole thing

about transgenderism, it's one of the strangest things about the Democratic Party.

They know that after the 2024 election, they outspent them.

They had the money, they had a billion.

See, a lot of people say, well, it wasn't a landslide because he only won by 2,300,000 votes, and he only won by 1.5 percent, and he got 49.8, he didn't get 50,

and Obama got a better electoral college than he did.

Yes, yes, yes, but he had a billion dollars more spent against him, and he had 95% negative coverage of him, and they tried to kill him twice, and he still did that.

That's how to look at the

and that's something that they

they just can't they just can't get around, that people don't support these issues.

So the Maine legislature can talk all they want about

men participating, biological men participating in women's sport, but their own constituencies have daughters, and the daughters are sportswomen, and they don't support this.

They don't.

Nobody wants their daughter to go into a volleyball match and have a six-foot man who says he's a woman slam a volleyball down her throat.

They just don't want to do it.

And that's just a fact.

And yet they keep hammering this issue.

And then the second problem with it is they were the party that told us women's liberation, this is the year of the woman, ERA.

They drummed it into our heads.

And they are now the most anti-woman party imaginable on this particular topic.

They don't care about women's records.

They don't care about equal opportunity for women in women's sports.

And if you say to them, Just politely, I had a question not too long ago.

I was trying to remember where I was speaking with somebody who took issue with me on this matter, and I just said, why don't we have a separate category?

And he said something like, oh, like transgender, I mean,

the Special Olympics, as if these people are, you know, trying to suggest that I thought they were somehow

impaired.

I didn't say that.

I said, just categories which

are distinctive by men, by gender, women.

And if you think this is the third gender, then let's have a transgender.

Well, they they can have their own graduation ceremony.

Yes, they can have their own graduation ceremony.

Why don't they do that?

Because they don't do that because

going back to the 19th century, Havelock Ellis and others, and also the British government,

it

commissioned a study to find out what how many people were really traditionally

suffering from gender dysphoria.

It's about 001%.

It's a very minuscule.

It's less than one in a thousand.

And so there's a very small constituent.

They can say, oh, everybody's transgendering in Hollywood.

30% of the brown undergraduates want it.

That is a cultural phenomenon based on the media saturation, but a very, very little tiny group of people.

tiny group of people.

And so they know that if they had a transgendered sport

and the sport was intended to satisfy the transgendered community, a sense of belonging, there wouldn't be enough people to go to it.

And Leah Thomas would be swimming against himself.

They want to piggyback onto a very popular women's sport and deracinate it and drain it and weaken it.

I have another little rant before we finish.

You don't watch the show The Last of Us, do you?

I do not.

What is it?

It's a story about the end of the world.

It's an Armageddon apocalyptic story where a fungal disease has killed everybody, but there's enclaves of people who are still surviving years later.

And there's the girl who was in the Game of Thrones, Lady Marmont, I think her name is Bella something,

she's in it, and

Pablo Pascal, who's a really good actor, he was in Game of Thrones.

And he, for the first year, led her, because she's immune for some reason, and people want her blood or something.

So they they have an odyssey around the United States and they fight vigilante groups and all the most of it there's a thin anti-Christian because all the people who are crazy seem to be Christians or you know what I mean of course but enclaves of people who haven't been infected but my point is

the actress is gay and now there's a new

actress in it is gay.

So season two comes.

But of course, the guy who is the hero of the whole thing is her shepherd, the guy who fights off all the zombies and all the crazy people to make sure this one little girl, who's actually the actress is probably about 19, but she plays at this time 12 or 13, that she's safe because somewhere, sometime they'll be able to use her blood to save mankind, right?

Even though they want to kill her and drain it.

So

he's kind of violent, but he's the best actor.

Well, they killed him off in the second episode.

Remember the John Wayne movie, The Cowboys, where they killed John Wayne off very early?

You know, I never saw that, but I have.

Well, you know, Westerns, that it was a canon.

If you really do want to lose your audience, you don't kill off.

Right.

Did Don Wayne die in the sands of Iwo Jimu?

He did.

He did, but he got killed in the end.

Yeah.

Yeah, you don't kill your hero, but they killed him.

And then they changed the emphases to her.

And then they had a surrogate young girl who's a gay actor.

And so they're now trying to revenge the people who killed him.

But in this latest episode, they have to have a homosexual love scene.

And it is explicit.

And they see an ancient pride building with a pride flag that, you know, from years ago.

And they had an earlier segment where a guy who was a Mr.

Know-It-All, and he had a generator and he was self-sufficient.

Somebody wandered in and they ended up

in bed together.

So my point I'm making is

something,

it's that issue now dominates the whole story.

And the one thing that people wanted to see is this jack of all trades, kind of Renaissance man who was really smart.

He kills the zombies, he fights these militias and he protects this girl and he develops a very wholesome mentor relationship with her.

He's dead now and he's replaced by a gay woman.

And I think in the movie, they're 15 or 16, but they're shown in kind of a very explicit sexual congress.

Amid all the zombies, they're attacked by zombies, but they go into a warehouse and have sex together.

And that is half of the show.

And so, what I'm getting at is

whether it's the radical gay or radical transgender, whatever it is,

they want to mainstream this, even though they're a very small segment of the population.

And

it's almost every perceived enemy of this has to be the cisgendered male

patriarch

who, you know, he's too masked, toxic, masculine, and it saves her numerous times.

He's got to get it.

And who would kill him if you were the screenwriter?

Well, you'd have to have a feminist woman who would beat him up and then drive a spike through his head.

And that's how she killed him, the hero.

And then all of the heroes are either women or gay.

It's very strange.

I just losing, I can't watch it anymore because it's lost.

It would be like reading the Odyssey and all of a sudden...

Calypso or Circe killed Odysseus, you know.

Just said, listen, you toxic man,

you ran away from your wife.

She's been gone.

You haven't been there in 20 years.

I'm a dominant feminist hero.

And Circe and Calypso did have sex with Odysseus.

But you're going to be, you know, we're going to be here and you're no good.

Or have him go back, I guess, just when he arrives in Ithaca.

And just as he's ready to organize Eumaeus and Telemachus to fight the suitors.

who are eating the suitors, he gets killed.

And then Telemachus becomes gay.

And

he has a relationship maybe with one of the suitors or something.

I don't know.

But

it's not the stuff that appeals to a lot of people.

And I'm not saying it's because it's gay.

It's not the gay issue.

It's the idea that you warp the plot.

You know what I mean, Jack?

Yeah,

you deviate from a classical plot of male hero who is kind of a Shane-type character takes on to protect a little girl for humanity, and he fights everything successfully.

And in the process, he trains her to be self-sufficient.

And then they kill him prematurely.

A woman kills him.

And then he's replaced by a gay woman.

And there are partners.

And the point, they're making things

in the plot

that don't make sense.

They're there.

If you're fighting zombies and you're in a warehouse and they're all around you and you've got on the left side zombies that want to eat you, on the right side you've got a militia that wants to kill you you're not going to have sex you know what I'm saying I dig maybe maybe Rick and Victor Laszlo would would be kissing in a remake of Cossack yeah it would be exactly like that that all of a sudden Rick comes in he wants the transport papers he comes up to Humphrey Bogart's room and Humphrey says you know

Where is Ingrid Bergman?

And he says, she's out the door.

Well, and then he just jumps on.

Because in the scene, one of them just, and then they jump and then they show graphically they're having sex.

What would be the purpose of that, other than an agenda, is what I'm saying.

Yes.

So Last of Us has gone the way of Budweiser and the target, transgendered underwear and all that stuff.

And this is the world we live in, but

hopefully someone is sweeping up after the elephants, Victor.

I hope so.

Anyway,

we are

at the end of the little road here of of Victor's great wisdom sharing.

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Oh my gosh, there's so many comments now, so many

now that we're on YouTube.

And last episode you did with the great Sammy Wink, I think there's about 500, 50600, somewhere in that range, just that show.

But here's some one comment that I pulled out of there from Michael Wilson 7971.

Good morning, Victor and Sammy.

Another great show.

I got my mother watching on Saturdays now.

She likes the show and Sammy.

She is learning a lot.

She needs a different news source than Spectrum News.

I especially thank Victor for his wealth of knowledge and for continuing to educate America in a calm, rational, truthful way.

Thank you you so much.

There are so many comments like this.

Yeah, very true.

Victor, you've been wonderful in rantio ergo sum.

I love it.

I'm sure our listeners and viewers do too.

Thanks for all the wisdom you shared.

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