The Friday News Roundup: Trump's McDonald's Stunt & Kamala's Gaffes
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So, we're going to be addressing Trump and his McDonald's appearance and some of his
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So, Victor, we've got a lot of campaign and campaigning and campaign issues going on.
So, I wanted to start off with Donald Trump made a big showing this week by going to McDonald's and claiming that after he worked there for 15 minutes, he had worked there 15 minutes longer than Kamala's.
And the second thing, and maybe reflection on both of them, he entered a football stadium, I believe it was in Pennsylvania, and the crowd was chanting USA, USA.
So very much in support of Donald Trump, and those were two things this week.
What do you think?
Well, there's a lot of things that are contributing to his recovery.
And it started really, if you think about it, with that disastrous media blitz that Kamala Harris did with the black journalist, the local Philadelphia reporter.
I thought the Oprah thing was bad.
The NBA, two NBA stars interview was bad.
The 60 Minutes was a train wreck.
It had to be edited.
It was so bad.
The town hall, remember she had to teleprompter with the Univision, that didn't go over so well.
The latest one with Maria Shriver, they wouldn't even allow questions.
I've never seen a town hall where you have pre-canned questions, which raises the question to me, how do you use a teleprompter?
We asked that question before with a town hall.
Remember, I said, How did she use it?
And I think they answered it for us, that they must have had the answers given, the questions given to her in advance.
In the Univision case, and this time they, I guess they were afraid of getting caught, and they just admitted they were going to do that.
We have predetermined questions.
That's not a town hall, that's just another Doritos commercial that she does.
So, all of that, and then you juxtapose that with J.D.
Vance,
and
how he just destroyed Waltz.
And then you got the Waltz Herky Jerky, and then the Fox, and
her brain freezes, and it's all coming together now.
And then the hurricane, when she got in the fight with DeSantis, and then Biden's doing his part to defeat her by, as we said, putting on a MAGA hat and saying that DeSantis did a good job.
And she didn't differ with him.
She was integral to his decision-making.
And she lost all that momentum.
I don't know what that means, because these aggregate polls, there's some other, they're just loony.
And what that does is weight the averages so that Real Clear Politics has her one ahead.
Although the last three reputable polls have Trump ahead nationally.
So then,
where are we?
She said she worked at McDonald's, and the New York Times said, well, she did
because her campaign said she did.
And then to back up that assertion, they said a friend,
unnamed,
we don't know who the friend was, told her mother, now dead, that she worked at McDonald's, confirmed that, so her mother could confirm that.
Well, that's no confirmation.
All she has to do is say, I, Camilla Harris, worked at the
so-and-so address
McDonald's, and I did so from, I don't know, 1981 to 1982, and I did so with the following people I knew, and I wish they would come forward out of the shadows and confirm that.
Or we can get,
I don't know, tax receipts.
I must have paid taxes on it, right?
I can release my taxes.
She hasn't done any of that, and it's as dubious as her clock story.
So you put all that together is what I'm saying.
And she comes across as inept.
The other thing is this McDonald's.
So that was set the stage.
So Trump being Trump, the showman, he says, you know, I'm going to go to McDonald's and tell everybody that I'm working 15 minutes longer in my lifetime than she did.
But the thing was, they had kind of Norman Rockwell pictures of him with an apron on, smiling.
He looked good.
He looked happy.
He chatted naturally, no no script with the cars.
They drove through the window.
He was not uppity.
I made a mistake, I think, last night on Fox when I said his Bronx accent.
It's a Queen's accent.
But he had that Queen's, he didn't fake his accent.
He doesn't fake a Jamaican, a Latino, a black accent.
He doesn't come to work like Waltz with a flannel shirt, right?
Mr.
Common Man.
He comes with his red tie and his white shirt and his suit.
And he puts it on.
It's authentic, and he likes people, and so it did very well.
It drove the left crazy.
So, what did they react to it?
He didn't work a full shift.
Okay, and then he went, as you said, to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I don't know what percentage of the crowds got up and said, USA, USA, Trump, Trump, Trump, but it was a sizable percentage that liked him.
And they wouldn't, nobody would have said anything for Kamala Harris.
And that kind of submitted the idea that he's perpetuating very successfully that he is a middle-class working man's candidate.
And she is a creation of the Bay Area liberal establishment, Silicon Valley, Hollywood.
That's where she
gets her support.
When in doubt, when in crisis, where does she go?
She always goes back to California for her familiar donors, or she goes to New York.
And
I think it's hurting her.
Now, where
I don't want to go out on a limb, because
this was similar in 2020 and 16.
He was the populist candidate.
Remember, people said, he gets 60,000 people at a rally, and Joe Biden has got a honking contest with 15 cars in COVID, and he's in his basement.
Well, how'd that work out?
So then we get into the $64,000 question.
How many points in the polls does he have to be ahead to make up for the, what's the fireable offense where I work, saying election problematics, i.e.,
the transition from 70% voting on Election Day to 70% not, and the Democratic mastery of that contortion.
And I don't know the answer to that, but I do expect that he has to be
I understand that he's underrated in the polls.
And the only poll that was really
that didn't undervalue his candidacy was the 2022 midterm because he wasn't a candidate.
In other words, when it's just generic
Republican, Democrat, House, Senate races, they're not that inaccurate.
But something about Trump drives the pollsters crazy, or maybe it drives the people crazy who are being polled.
I don't know, but
it's an inexplicable event, but it suggests to me that these polls are stronger than Trump
than they suggest.
But it also suggests that there's a magic number they have to be for the mail-in valley.
So he's still on the up swing.
And what's worrying them now, because that's
why is Casey, for example, or why is Tammy Baldwin, or why are any of these Senate Jackie Rosen campaigning as if they're Trump supporters?
They all voted to impeach him, to convict him in the impeachment trial of 2021.
They hate him.
So it tells me that they don't have confidence that she's going to win.
And why is she doing the interviews when she wouldn't get close to them?
It tells me her internal polls suggest she's not going to win.
And why suddenly is it no longer Trump's weird, Vance's weird, now it's unfit, dictator, fascist?
It's really personal.
And
it's starting to, as I said before, it's starting to have
the beginning of a 1980 Jimmy Carter sure win mid-October to collapse.
Yeah.
And that's what they're worried about.
Yeah, I bet.
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So, Victor, you were speaking about people that have gone against Trump and/or actually on the Democratic side that are adopting his policies.
But I wanted to talk about the people that have
made their careers or unmade their careers by breaking with Trump.
And some of the strange cases, of course, are Liz Cheney, Adam
Kinzinger, sorry, and the Bulwark team.
And I was wondering your thoughts on them, because we have some very strange things coming out this week with Liz Cheney campaigning with Harris.
So that is weird.
Well, I can see people.
I can't see it.
I don't empathize with it.
But I can understand how their minds think, that George W.
Bush,
some of these,
a George Will,
maybe, a Jonah Goldberg.
These people decide that
Trump culturally, socially,
who knows, rubs them the wrong way and they feel that the messenger is so toxic that they're not going to embrace a message that otherwise mere images their own for the rest of their life.
I think that's absurd.
But they're not obsessed with it.
You know what I'm saying?
They understand what happened to their careers because of that.
You can't tell people year after year after year, read my column, come to my lecture, subsidize my pundocracy,
my people around me, my whole machine, because I sincerely believe that you cannot have abortion in the ninth month.
I sincerely believe you have to have secure and defensible borders, legal only immigration, emphasize fossil fossil fuel production, deterrent foreign policy, have a strong defense, have a deterrent crime policy, and then suddenly say, all that I told you, you know, you paid money to come buy my column or you went to my lecture or you bought my book.
Just forget all that.
I never really, I'm not for that now.
I'm for the opposite.
And I'm for the opposite because the messenger was so bad that I abandoned the message.
And that's what Liz Cheney is doing.
And that's what Kinzinger is doing.
And that's what a lot of the bulwark is doing.
And what do I mean is doing?
I don't mean that they're like the other Never Trumpers who just went asked, I can't stand Trump.
But if you look at a Charles Sykes or a Bill Crystal or a David
from
Mona Charon
or
a Liz Cheney, they're obsessed with them, which then begs the question, why?
What did he do to those particular people that made them
angry?
And I think the answer is what?
He blew their career up.
He completely blew it up.
So if you're Liz Cheney and you're the third ranking member of the House and you're relatively still young
and you're on a trajectory to be Speaker of the House and you're from an old
respectable, hardcore, conservative corporate family, and you've fought the left your entire life and you're Wyoming's only House member,
and you go,
you think that the world is going to listen to you when you say, Donald Trump is an existential threat.
I don't like him.
I'm not voting for him.
Okay, fine.
But then you obsess and you make fun of people who are, and you say the party is hijacked, and these people are terrible.
Then you blow up your career.
What does blow up your career mean?
Suddenly, you lose your House seat by not 10, not 20, not 30, but 40 points.
You're completely humiliated.
Trump says you're humiliated.
You think you're going to put him down?
He calls you a warmonger and your dad a warmonger.
And
he goes to war against you and you attack him.
And the next thing you know, you look pretty bad and you are no longer in the Congress and you're no longer ever going to be, you're never, ever going to be elected from Wyoming again
for anything.
He did that.
So what's she doing?
She goes to Virginia.
She's a professor.
She's an academic.
She's starting to think,
how do I get back into politics and further the Cheney name?
I got it.
I will get into just stay in Northern Virginia.
I wasn't really in Wyoming.
I didn't feel comfortable there anyway.
I was more comfortable in Washington.
And I will go to the center and I'll become kind of a Democrat.
And I will prove my faith to the new left by endorsing the most left-wing senator in the Senate and the most left-wing senator in the 20th century.
That's what she's wanting us to believe.
So when every time she opens her mouth, it's just, well, why should we believe you now when you're against everything you said before?
And were you right then or right now?
Or is it just personal?
Take Donald Trump out of the equation.
Will you flip like you are?
You can say you don't like Donald Trump, but you flipped on abortion, you flipped on everything.
And that, you know, that applies to David David French, Bill Crystal, Charles Sykes.
So it really means that their speaking engagements, their high-profile TV appearances, their lectures, their books, there's no market except from left-wing subsidies.
So the left-wing steps in and says, ah, you people are useful idiots.
We will give you millions of dollars to fund the bulwark.
Just flip over completely and do our work.
But keep saying you're Republicans.
Don't say you're with us now, you're leftists.
We have to find some people who are sincere, authentic, trustworthy, principled.
That's you.
So just keep this con going
and we'll give you the money.
Or come to the University of Virginia and we'll pay you and we'll get you a professorship in academia.
Or
you know what I'm what they offer.
And they don't realize what they're doing to themselves.
They're making fools of themselves.
And he crushed them.
He absolutely destroyed them.
People didn't understand one thing about Donald Trump.
They really did not.
If you get into a fight with him, his purpose is to
not just win the fight, but reveal you, reveal who you really are.
So if you get obsessed with his so-called crudity, and then you start foaming at the mouth and make a fool of yourself, I'm talking about
people like Omarosa that work for him.
Remember Scaramucci?
Yes.
How about Michael Cohen?
Remember him?
He's completely blown up himself.
He's just a fanatic hater now.
You don't end up very well.
Even Stormy Daniels didn't, you know.
She probably had this tryst with him.
She got her $100 and something thousand dollars.
It's more than she had from, I don't know, other sexual trysts she's had.
She seemed to be getting along with Trump.
She called him after their encounter.
And yet, then she thinks she's going to destroy Donald Trump?
I don't think so.
You know,
while you're talking, I'm thinking, well,
Donald Trump, of course, is older, so he's eventually going to slide out of this politics.
And these people are relatively young.
They're all kind of slimy, so I think that they'll try to slime their way back into conservatism.
I don't think they're ever going to get back in because when you look at the people who are the next generation,
the only person that they could come back in with was Nikki Haley.
She came in third in the race.
The more the New York Times and the Washington Post said she was brilliant and she was the new face of the Republican Party, and the more she attacked Donald Trump and they all clapped, the lower and lower she got.
She got almost no support in the primaries.
DeSantis destroyed her.
She's out now because she's smart.
She's smart.
She's smarter than these people.
She's doing what now?
Remembering all the wounds she suffered from Trump?
No.
She's like Kemp from Georgia, basically saying to herself,
I don't like this guy, and he gave it out to me, and I gave it back to him, but that's what the Republican Party is now.
And you know what?
I agree with 90% of it.
And that's why she saved her career.
So when you look at the next generation, in four years it's going to be a primary race between whom?
J.D.
Vance?
Ron DeSantis?
Nikki Haley?
That's about it.
You're not going to see these people come in.
Would you want to run in this climate?
It depends on how the four years go, of course.
It could be a disaster.
But if it goes as it's going now, would you want to be an
anti-MAGA, anti-DeSantis, anti-Haley, anti-Advance person?
I don't think so.
No.
I don't know what their, who do they think their constituencies
are?
Do they think that all these people who said that Dick Cheney...
I wrote about an article a year defending the Bush administration and Cheney from
unfounded accusations they were Nazis.
And I mean Garrison Keillor, I'm talking about Angela Merkel, I'm talking about John Glenn, who called them Nazis.
Does Liz Cheney have any idea about what they said about her father with Halbert, that he was a cook, that he cooked up the war, he had blood on his hand, all of that stuff.
I think Trump erased her memory on that.
But I think they think the population has a feeble memory anyway, and that they'll just come on back saying the opposite and nobody will remember them.
Although cyberspace remembers everything, I don't know how they missed it.
It's a trait of human nature.
Why do you think that civil wars are always more violent than foreign wars?
Why did we lose more Americans in the Civil War than World War II and the World War I and all other wars combined?
Why, if you read Machiavelli the Prince, why do those civil wars and factionalism in Florence get so deadly and mean, you know, slicing people up?
It's because there's something about someone of your own nature that betrays you or
flips over.
That creates a human response.
So
their anger is, they don't understand how unpopular they have become.
They really don't.
No.
Well, let's talk about how unpopular they've become and some unpopular things that were said this week by Kamala Harris when we come back from these messages.
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So Victor, speaking of very unpopular things to say,
I don't think Harris thinks they were unpopular, but there are two things she stuck her foot in this week.
One of them was there were Christians in one of her audiences, and they were yelling, Jesus is Lord, and God is king.
And she responded to them, you are at the wrong rally.
That's one thing she did.
And the second thing she did was allow for a young man to yell and scream about
Israel committing genocide against Palestinians.
And
after he was led out of the room, she said that it's real.
And she accepted his point.
And I was wondering your commentary on both those things.
Well, let's put my answer this way.
What if he had juxtaposed those answers?
So somebody at a rally said Jesus is Lord, and then they escorted him out.
And as he was going out, she said, well, he's real.
He's real.
And then what if she'd said to the person who's genocide, I think you're at the wrong rally, go to the one.
Would she have been better off politically?
I think so.
I think so.
Yeah, so she does.
I guess what I'm saying is
part of me has nothing but loathing and disgust for these handlers who cynically had a coup,
a coup to put Joe Biden in in March of 2020 when they knew he was non-composment and they faked out that he was the
unifier and old Joe Biden from Scranton.
And then they lied for three years and said he was fit as a fiddle, strong as an ox, all of that stuff.
And then gave her with this coup.
And then they discovered, oh my God, we've got, we thought
when they told us she was
Spiro Agnew Insurance, we should have listened.
She is inept.
We can't put her out there.
Every time she's out there, she does this word salad.
Time being
this
adolescent Heidegger stuff.
So, what are we going to do with her?
And then they said, we'll just coast.
We'll raise $3.5 billion, and we'll just lie, and we'll renounce all of our positions, and that worked.
And then they ran out of time.
In other words, the Poles caught up with them, and now they have to go back out.
And every time they go back out, and they, you know, we just criticized her town halls as scripted.
But what's the alternative?
When she gets off the teleprompter for one nanosecond and insults Christians after she avoided the
Catholic
diocese-sponsored,
I don't know, roast with Donald Trump in New York City?
She just did that.
And so now she confirms she doesn't like Christians.
And then she's just alienated the Jewish vote because she's basically said that people who say that the IDF is committing genocide, genocide, genocide's from the Greek word
Latin and Greek derivative, but it's more Latin because of kiddo.
It's the idea of wiping out a genos, a genus.
We get genus in English from it, an entire species, an entire people.
Does she really think that that's happening in the war zone of Gaza?
They're wiping out an entire Palestinian people?
Is that what she means when she says real?
Or do they think that they're trying to reply in an urban context to people who butchered 1,200 women, men, children, elderly, raped, mutilated, took hostages, and now are hiding beneath hospitals, mosques, and schools?
And how do you get them out?
So it really hurt her campaign.
That's why today, as I'm speaking, she's off the campaign trail.
She's recalibrating.
And
I don't know.
We've already been told that the
person who scheduled the Brett Bearer, I think her name was Chavez.
Was that an online truth that she was the granddaughter of Cesar Chavez?
I don't know.
I'll have to check that out.
But the point is, she reportedly yelled at her and blamed her for that interview.
And she deliberately showed up 10 minutes late so she could abbreviate her promise 30 minutes or 40 minutes.
And then
Brett Baer said they're waving at me.
In other words, get the cane and the hook or whatever and get her off the stage.
So,
you know, and then when they try to fact check, I mean, gosh, when they, you know, when he was at the Pittsburgh Steelers, some Trump supporters put Trump's head on a football player's body, Steelers, like he's now one with the Steelers.
They said,
there's no evidence that Donald Trump has ever played for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
You think?
And the same thing about he didn't have a full shift.
Oh, he went down and said, I'm Donald Trump.
I'm having financial difficulties.
Can you hire me?
But then I didn't do my required full shift of eight hours.
Are you serious?
They have no humor.
They don't understand who they are or what they are.
No.
They don't know the truth.
It's so funny.
They're left-wing and all they rely on is the money and the media and the propaganda and dollars.
That's all they have.
Yeah, you have to forgive them, Victor.
I don't think Kamala Harris has ever had to work so hard.
Ever had to work so hard?
Yeah.
I know that every time I see Barack Obama, he's angry.
It's like, remember remember he said,
President Obama, could you tell us what your greatest fault is?
Yep, I'm lazy.
And then they ask him again, would you ever run for a third term?
No, not if I had to do any work.
If I could just stay in my basement and phone it in and everybody would follow me?
Yeah.
So when he's out there, he's like, what the?
Why am I out here?
She's screwing up.
She did not, she tells the, hey, brothers, she doesn't resonate with you like I did.
I got my fake accent right now.
I called you brothers.
And you know what?
I'm with you for about five minutes before I get back to Martha's Vineyard.
But she's made me come out of here.
No golf, no movie watching.
This is no, I can't go out in some Hollywood moguls yacht.
This is terrible.
That's a great imitation of football.
It's what it is.
I mean, it's totally false.
Can you imagine if Donald Trump, just imagine for a minute, Donald Trump goes into a barber shop and and he says, hello, everybody, this is Donald Trump.
And hello, you all, how are you doing?
With a black accent.
Or then he comes to California like he did to Tulare.
Remember, she had this Hispanic accent she did, and she had a Jamaican?
But he goes to Tulare and says, Hey, man, I want to tell you that I'm here.
My name is Donald Trump, and I want your vote.
You think, I mean, that crude imitation of an accent like she does, or Hillary.
Isn't it insulting?
If I were Hispanic or something, it is.
That's why they're insulted, and that's why they're not going to vote for her.
Black male is a very pr I mean
she thinks we're back in about 1950 and she's the only civil rights.
Black males, I mean, they dominate entertainment, they dominate sports, they dominate a lot of politics, they dominate movie,
everywhere.
And the last thing they want to be told is that they're insecure and impotent, they don't know what they're doing, and Marx has correctly categorized them as false consciousness, and they're voting against their economic interests.
And it takes half Indian, half-black Kamala, boyfriend of Willie Brown, and basically elite living with a white guy in Los Angeles to tell them they're not authentically black.
Bad idea.
It's like Joe Biden, you ain't black.
That's crazy.
They're sick of it.
Yeah, they should be.
You know what I mean?
It would be like some white guy, and
some right-wing guy said, you don't know,
some some right-wing, your real enemy is non-white people and you've got to vote for,
Victor, you've got to vote for Joe Biden because he's white.
You don't understand.
We're up against the wall and you may think so, but your real interest is in your race and race, race.
And you said, yeah, but
he's a complete cognitively vegetable and he's obnoxious.
And I would rather vote for Byron Donalds any day or any
competent competent black candidate or Joe Biden.
You know, so I would be insulted.
Absolutely, and I'm insulted for them.
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All right Victor, so let's go on to some of the supporters of Harris.
We have out this week Usher and another act called Lizzo,
and they're there to convince people to vote for Trump.
And Lizzo said an interesting thing while she was stumping for Harris, that it will turn everything
back to Detroit.
she was talking to her population, I guess.
And that didn't sound like a good idea since Detroit has had some very bad press as a declining city.
And I was wondering your thoughts on that.
Well, you know, in
2004, I started going for, at that time, four and a half weeks to Hillsdale College.
And I never really, I'd been to the Detroit airport, but I'd never been to Detroit.
So
I had to go to Ann Arbor
and speak, so I just drove up to Detroit and I kind of got lost and I went around the suburbs and the first thing I noticed that there were all these abandoned houses and it was kind of like zombie land or, you know what I mean?
There was
grass growing over.
The houses looked like they were, you know, abandoned and they were, but there were whole entire blocks of the nature taking back the land, you know what I mean?
And then there was street lights, thousands of them, with the wires that had been cut out, you know, they had all been vandalized.
And then when I told somebody back at Hillsdale where I went, they said, Are you crazy?
You can't go there in daylight.
And I know the city's in a little bit of a renaissance, but it's got the second highest crime rate in the United States.
So when she says that, it doesn't matter if it would be factually true or not, it's just what it's smart and dumb politically.
So she has a major star telling everybody
that she wants America.
It'd be like
Gavin Newsom saying, you know what, I'm going to run for president and I'm going to do for the United States what I did for San Francisco.
If we have everything we want,
the U.S.
will look like San Francisco.
That would lose this campaign.
Detroit's like San Francisco.
Yeah, it would be a disaster.
Disaster.
So that was, and then
this class thing, they can't get over the class thing.
It permeates race.
It permeates every aspect of this campaign.
The African-American community is split by race.
I mean by class, excuse me.
Yes, by class.
And by that I mean you've got all the Hollywood entertainers and then you've got these guys in barbershop.
That doesn't mean that Trump's going to get 50% of the black male vote.
He's going to probably get 30%, maybe 20% of all the black community in total.
But the people are going to vote for him are people who work in muscular jobs, middle-class, working-class people who have a lot of common sense.
And where he's going to lose,
he's going to lose from the people who,
what, have degrees, money, live in these zip codes, the permanent black political class, academic class, media class, celebrity class.
They seem to be going after the black population, Kamalas.
And that, again, that surprises me.
I know I said that last weekend, weekend, that she's out trying to get that population of people that were supposedly already hers.
And I wanted to talk a little bit more about another ad that she had this week that was targeted to black males.
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So, that ad I was speaking about, Victor, is a
professional black male, as he's presented on the ad, that's very successful.
And there are a bunch of women with balloons, and he says he doesn't know that he's going to vote.
That's all he says.
And then all their balloons pop as symbolic of that is a deal breaker for any date possibility with a a black man.
So
first of all, that was a disastrous commercial because it reinforced the idea that
of black male sexuality, that this black man who's very accomplished, they ask him all the revelations.
All the things that matter.
I mean, he's tall, he's good-looking, he's got a successful job.
They all go, ooh, as any woman would in the dating circuit.
And then he says he's voting or he's thinking about voting for Trump.
And then they kind of wiggle around.
And the implication is he's not going to have sex or go out with you on a date.
As if you're a horny little guy, a big guy, and you have to have sex, sex, sex, and we have control over you because we won't give you sex.
They did that with Hillary Clinton's campaign.
It goes back, I mean, it's so boring, it goes back 2,500 years ago.
I think the Lys Estrada was performed.
I'm just doing this by
somewhere around 411, 412, maybe 409 BC, when Lysistrata, an Athenian woman on the stage, Aristophanes, a man, wrote the comedy.
And she says, the Peloponnesian War has been going on for 20, some nearly 20 years.
And we have to get all the Theban women and all the Spartan women and all the major players, and we have to go to the Acropolis and we have to
have a sex strike.
And we won't date.
We'll tell our husbands no sex.
And And then, you know, that comic, the guys come up and they have, apparently, as a stage, as we can infer from vase paintings, they had erections on, oh, please help me, help me.
So it's an old theme and it doesn't really work.
And, you know, I think the black male would probably say, if you don't want to go out with me, that's your problem.
I'm a success.
I don't need sex so bad that I'm going to renounce my political beliefs on your behalf.
Who do you think I am?
I think it also reinforces this war on men so 55 to 56 percent of all bachelor's degrees go to women now and for women who do not have children and stay in the workplace they make more than men and black women make more than black men and so this idea that there's these stupid men or that they have to be trained right or schooled right on who to vote for by women, it doesn't work.
It just reinforces, it's like we're sick of this.
And
they don't know why.
This just brings up this other matter.
When you look at these ridiculous commercials, like they get these actors, I think a few of them were gay professional actors.
They were sitting like you don't see rural people sit, almost like Hollywood gay actors might sit if you were stereotyping them.
And then they all say things like, I braid my daughter's hair, I write notes to my,
oh, I'm really tough.
I take out a carburetor.
No carburetor, you know, we talked about that with Jack.
But again, they don't know why men overwhelmingly do not want to vote for Democrats in general, but particularly Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.
And the answer is they're getting sick and tired of being lectured that they're sexist, that they're racist, that they're insensitive, that they're this, that they're that, that they're that.
And as far as how do you have affirmative action in the university when women are 55%,
51% of the population, but they're 55, 56%
of the student body?
So males, and then if you say white males, because
they're 9% of the Stanford incoming class last year,
and you're going to make them, these people, whether they're black,
they're not oppressors.
And they're not stupid.
That's another thing.
You know, it goes back to that statement she said extemporaneously about young people.
Well, they're stupid.
Remember that, that quote?
And she said that a long time ago, but it was emblematic of who she is.
This whole campaign, if you wanted to make a caricature and you said, hey, I'm going to get a bunch of metro-sexual young people,
and we're going to have a lot of diversity, equity, inclusion themes, and we're going to get them all out of the bureaucracies and the Biden, Obama people, but most importantly, we want to go to all these little schools they go to, Harbor Ale Plans and the Real Brain Trust.
We're going to get them all together.
They've never been out in the heartland.
And they're going to make our commercials.
They're going to do our...
You couldn't do any better.
They're so out of touch.
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current critique of black males for not going out to vote for Kamala in particular.
But there was a person who was trying to defend them on CNN and the commentator, Angela Ray, said that it was white folks that must face accountability for a potentially failed election or campaign by Kamala.
They are the ones that need to be get out and vote.
So stop critiquing black males was her point.
You know, there's two
phenomena that are happening simultaneously, and I don't know whether they're, what the relationship is, if any, cause and effect.
Now, one of them is the elite African-American community in
the media, political activism, the Hakeem Jeffries, the Al Sharptons, the media, Joy Reed,
the person whom you just referenced, academia, the Claude Ingays of the world,
and then, you know, entertainers like Lizo, okay.
And they keep hammering white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white.
Constantly obsessed with it.
And Joy Reed has said things that have she if she said it about any other group would have long been fired because they're they're abjectly racist.
So they want to distinguish white people as culpable, interlopers, DEI, all that stuff, the Kindy victim, the objects of the 1619 project.
And they're overt and more in overt.
But at the same time,
There's never been at the middle class level the cultural assimilation in which
black males, for example, are tired of it, and they're just looking at politics as individuals.
Who can give me a better shot at economic upward mobility, freedom of thought, protection under the laws?
Which party?
And the same thing is true of Latinos and other people.
Now, is the one a result of the other?
I don't know.
Are people in those communities sick of their own elites and they're reacting against them because they don't feel that way?
They work on the assembly line, they drive trucks with, they're policemen with different races, and they don't feel that there's this racial chauvinism or separatism that their elites keep pounding the reparations, this, this, this.
And you get the impression that at those levels,
what I think the difference is, at the high levels of upwardly mobile society, media, politics,
finance,
Silicon Valley, academia in particular.
The white profile is one of elite snobbishness, hypocrisy, the left-wing progressive profile.
My kids go to private school, but teachers' unions and charter schools.
Teachers' unions are great, charter schools, terrible.
I want
35 cents a kilowatt hour to stop global warming, but I'm in a 65-degree year-round environment.
I don't care about anybody else that can't afford air conditioning.
I have to sometimes fight private to further the progressive
cause, but no one else can.
So that group
is sort of like their black counterpart, and they're fighting
with one another for upward career enhancement.
And so they call white people terrible things, and then they expect to get, I don't know,
reparations, advancement from it.
And then the white people they call things feel guilt-ridden.
But the lower middle-class whites and the middle-class whites associate much more commonly with blacks and Latinos of the same class.
And they don't take anything off them, and they don't get anything off them.
They just judge each other as individuals.
So racial relations are getting much, much better in the middle classes.
And they're getting much, much worse among the elite.
And part of that is because the white elite have a very strange psychological paradox.
The more that they hate the Trump supporters, the more that they say clingers, and the more that they say irredeemables and racists and chomps and drags and ultra-fascists, the more you see that's kind of a psychological projection that we're going to say these people are all racist and thereby we're going to protect ourselves from the fact that we like being by ourselves, that we are segregationists, really, and we want our kids to have special preferences at Harvard, Yale, and Stanford, and we don't really want to associate with the middle-class blacks or Latinos or anybody.
The Martha's Vineyard syndrome.
We are so much better than you, and we're so progressive, and we're so much for open borders.
We just had to deport you guys.
Get the hell out of my
town and get back to where you belong in New York.
That's their attitude.
So,
that comment is from an elite
black person who is in a very competitive media environment and wants to shock and get hits on her
clicks on her website, but it doesn't reflect, I don't think, the average person, either white or black.
And so
that's like saying you can blame blacks for voting in 95% for Barack Obama or 30,000 to zero in a Philadelphia precinct, and therefore they're responsible for all the tragedies and disasters of the Obama administration.
Yeah.
It's not an appealing argument.
All right.
And then the last
person or thing I would like to talk about is Chris Cuomo.
Actually, there's two last things.
Sorry.
So Chris Cuomo,
he was very angry.
I think it was a TikTok video.
He was very angry at...
that the media is not following up on M Hoff's alleged assault of the girlfriend that he slapped outside of some, I think it was a concert or something to that effect.
And I was wondering what you thought about that Chris Cuomo TikTok.
Well,
wasn't it that he was accused?
Didn't Angela Ray just come up in our discussion?
Yeah, we just, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, this is kind of one of those
serendipity moments.
I don't know if you remember, but that's the woman that he allegedly sexted.
Oh, really?
I did not know that.
Yes, he sent a picture on social media that supposedly,
I'm looking, I'll look it up, but I'm doing it by my memory.
Wow, so I organized this material just perfectly, didn't I?
Well, I know my readers will double-check me, but I have a feeling that
she did something where she posted a picture feminist of herself in a bikini.
And
well, of course, all feminists.
And he posted it.
I mean,
these are people who would never do that, of course, be exhibitionists and try to get clicks by their bodies because they're intellectuals.
They're not objects.
He wrote or he posted something like
Happy New Year golden or tinsel crotch or something on it.
Wow.
Yeah, and that came after
years earlier he'd gone into a bar and so played handsy with a woman and they got him off.
And then you have the force multiplier of his brother, where several women came forward and said he was handsy with them.
So the Cuomos have decided that, for political reasons, whether this is true or not, this is what they have decided: that they were victims of excessive Me Tooism,
and the left is selective in whom they target.
And so now, when they look at Joe Biden or
they look at all of the the,
you know, the
M Hoff accusations.
He slapped a woman, he was a chauvinist at work, he discriminated against women, he impregnated his nanny and just sort of bought her off and didn't worry about the consequences of his own siren.
Then they don't face the consequences, the Cuomos.
Would he have
said that if he had not been caught himself?
No.
No, leftists are always happy with the status quo of going after people that need, they think, to be gone after.
But when the boomerang is in reverse course and hits them, or the Frankenstein, to mix metaphor, the Frankensteinian monster devours the creators, then they get very outraged.
Yeah.
Well, I have two more things.
One's just an interesting thing.
Tucker had a interview recently with Mark Halpern
where he was talking about what's going to happen after the election, both with if Trump gets elected and if Kamala gets elected.
But he said, if Trump is elected, there will be a sustained mental health crisis
for the people.
And
I was wondering what you thought about that.
Well,
isn't he right?
I mean, I was at the Stanford campus in 2016.
Yeah.
And they had little tables with milk and cookies for these adult students.
And the idea, I think, and other campuses reported they had puppies and teddy bears so that these mature political activists that were hardened from the tough
in and out of life and
were really seasoned and experienced could cry.
Donald Trump won.
You can't believe it's happening to me of all people.
Donald Trump won.
There goes everything I fought for my entire life.
Where's the cookies?
Can I have some ice cream?
Can I peddle puppy?
Do you have a teddy bear for me?
Where's this campus psychiatrist?
Yeah.
So I believe it.
I think he's fundamentally evil.
Well, put it this way: I won't mention names because I don't think the people who I would mention the name
listen to this, but maybe somebody who knows them does.
I would say,
be careful, Victor.
One, two, three,
four,
five
close friends.
I've seen among my best friends
doesn't talk to me anymore.
Wow.
Because they're totally unhinged about Donald Trump.
And I have reached out to all of them.
Yeah.
And I would say, hold on, just a minute.
One, two,
three,
four, five, six, seven,
eight, nine, ten,
eleven, twelve.
Twelve in my immediate family as defined by siblings, cousins,
cousins once removed, nephew, do not talk to me.
Wow.
Well,
because of Donald Trump.
I think.
According to Mark Halpern,
totally, I mean, that's the issue for them.
Yeah.
Their belief is that Trump is fundamentally evil.
And so they can't get beyond that.
It was a pretty interesting interview that Tucker had.
That's what she was.
I've told this story before on error, but I had a close dash.
I won't identify the person as either a family member or a friend, but I said the following, as they said, something to the effect, as they always do.
Can we just have a conversation without talking about Donald J.
Trump?
Yes, I think that would be pleasant.
Okay.
So it's on you.
They were not going to.
And then,
I can't believe you voted for him.
Why would you do that?
Are you an idiot?
And I said this,
and I've said this before.
I've was, that was the messenger.
And the message was, I've supported, but I agree with you about the messenger because these are the things that bothered me.
His daughter arranged a sexual twist in the White House.
I told you.
I told you, Victor.
And worse yet, he pulled out his sexual organ and held it up in front of the cabinet.
Okay.
And he went to the bathroom and made a take notes as he was defecating the toilet.
Oh, yes, he did.
And worse yet,
he deflowered a virgin staffer in the presidential bed.
Wasn't she under 18?
Yes, she was.
And then, more importantly, in a bathroom off the old office, he had a sexual encounter with one of his employees, young woman.
And they said, see,
see, it's about time.
And I said, I just mentioned FDR and his daughter with Lucy Mercer helping him arrange his liaisons because he was in a wheelchair.
I mentioned LBJ exposing himself, treating AIDS to bathroom memoranda sessions, and JFK
deflowering a young aid.
And then, of course, I should have given it away because of Bill Clinton and Monica.
Yeah, somebody should have recognized that.
They should have, but this person didn't.
And so I said,
well, what does the person say then?
Donald Trump does that more?
Donald Trump didn't do any of that while he was in office.
So when they say he's totally crude or you can't believe you're voting for him,
just define what you mean.
I mean, was he LBJ that left office a multi-millionaire with all of his quid pro quo deals?
Was he
Harry Truman that was part of the Kansas City
boss network?
maybe, I guess, kind of a light mafia light.
Was he
FDR that threatened the New York Times to go after them with special IRS legislation unless they got on the board with the New Deal?
I don't know, but
I think it has something to do with the theatrics of Donald Trump.
The optics, maybe the orange hair, the red tie, the
Queens accent,
the orange, again, the hue of his skin, his kind of bulk,
and then his fiery, you know, he just says it.
Today he said things that
never in my right mind would I say.
But I mean, they were crew that, you know, Kamala Harris is a bit stupid, she's lazy.
It doesn't mean anything.
I mean, it does mean something.
It doesn't mean anything.
Because it's truthful.
It is.
It is truthful.
She is lazy.
And why, how would you define that?
That's because in interview after interview after interview, she's asked the same question,
the same three questions.
If you have this change, move forward, turn the page movement, why haven't you done it in the last three and a half years?
I'm in a middle-class family.
Or the second question, why have you switched on the border, on crime, on energy, on fracking?
I grew up with
with a
working class family.
So she gives the same thing no matter what the question, because all she has to do is open playbook that says, question one,
take your pick, three answers, question two, three answers, question three, and just memorize them, right?
Yeah, exactly.
She did that in the debate with Trump, and she won.
Yeah.
In a way, because she just memorized a bunch of answers and then she plugged them in whether they were relevant or not to the question.
And then she did her thinker Rodon stare at him when he was talking.
And she counted on the moderators to interrupt him, fact-check him, and she won.
Yeah, it was a game plan.
So, what was so hard about repeating that?
Because it took us a little effort, and she wasn't going to do it.
So, Trump is right, she is lazy.
Is it untoward of him to say that?
I suppose he's not aware of the social atmospherics that you do not call a black woman lazy.
You just don't do it in popular culture and parliaments well Victor I think your dogs are inning ending our time here but I have a comment from a reader Craig Jenkins and this is from the website and he says I look forward to Elon Musk as an outsider heading up a government efficiency commission to help cut out wasteful programs, reduce unnecessary regulations, and streamline government services.
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what we might have to look forward to, although cutting government is going to be very difficult.
But as everybody knows, Elon came into X and Axe, I think it was 60% of the employees, so maybe he can do it.
I don't know.
He did.
Now there is a danger, of course, of having a fox in the hen house because he's going to deregulate and streamline government.
And maybe he would like to streamline his competitors in space more than his own.
So we never know about that.
And we know that the left will be on his back.
I mean, in the world of the left, it's okay for Mark Zuckerberg to give $419 million to absorb the work of registrars in key states in 2020.
But Elon Musk can't do a stunt like give a million dollars for that random person to help register vote or whatever.
So he's got to be very careful.
He's going to be watched like a hawk, which is good
because he has so many business interests.
And I don't mean business interests in isolation.
I mean with government contracts.
Yeah, absolutely.
So he's going to have to be careful.
Well, thank you, Craig Jenkins, for that comment.
And thanks to our audience for listening today.
We love having you.
We're not anything without you.
So thanks, Amelia.
And thank you, everybody.
And excuse Spotty and Sport and Spike.
They were not good dogs today.
Yeah, maybe they were good, though.
It was time to end the podcast.
So thanks to everybody.
This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis Hansen, and we are signing off.
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