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Victor's back from another one of his

long sojourns.

Victor,

you may be spending more time on the have spent more time on the road than actually

in the Central Valley so far this year, but I have a feeling you've got a lot of all that in your rearview mirror now.

We are recording on

Sunday the 8th.

This particular podcast episode comes out on the 10th, which is the day of the infamous Kamala Harris and non-infamous Donald Trump debate?

You and the great Sammy Wink will be discussing that debate later in the week.

We've got a lot to get your wisdom on, Victor, including: let's start with

Donald Trump's economic speech in New York City last week: some

Wall Street love for Kamala Harris and immigration and sanity in Ohio, and Alexa, Alexa, the infamous voice

in your house who's promoting Kamala Harris.

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Victor, I'm happy for you that you're back home.

I assume you're happy too.

I am very happy.

I'm kind of staying home.

I was 71

this last week, and

I decided to stay home.

I say that, but

let's see if I can keep in my calms.

Prabiyan.

Well, I'm late.

Happy birthday to you,

my friend.

You don't look a day over 70.

I must admit that.

So,

Donald Trump gave a

speech to the New York Economic Club last week.

I caught part of it live on Fox.

And before the substance of it, Victor, I have to say his tone and tenor, it was kind of jarring in a way to see Donald Trump speaking in a very poised and

non-theatrical way like he does at his rally.

So it took,

actually was refreshing and positive, I thought.

Anyway,

the highlights of his

speech were these things.

He has pledged to issue a national emergency declaration to boost domestic energy supply, banning mortgages for migrants living in the U.S.

illegally.

I'm reading from Reuters, a Reuters story, which of course is,

well, the main points are what they are.

Trump pledged to open up portions of federal land for large-scale housing construction.

He's talked about a sovereign wealth fund to engage in major infrastructure projects.

Tax cut, this is very interesting, tax cuts for domestic producers to reduce the corporate tax rate from 21% to 15% for companies.

that make their products in the U.S.

And then the final big thing, the thing that I think got the most news, that Elon Musk would be his efficiency czar.

So Victor, there's a lot in there.

Maybe we want to take it piece by piece.

What are your thoughts on Donald Trump's economic plan here?

I think what you're impressed by, Jack, is that when Trump sticks to the issues, the issues are pretty good.

And when he goes to the ad home, and it's not pretty good.

By that, I mean, everybody thinks he's a brawler.

He's really good at putting down little Marco.

He is, but he's much better on the issue because he has a good memory and he understands the economy.

Another thing that he's trying to point out about, every time he talks about energy development,

here's what the left says: that we never pump more gas and oil.

No, that's not quite true.

They may be exceeding this year or the latter part of last year

what Donald Trump did, but there's two things we need to remember.

They canceled ANWAR, they canceled federal leases, they canceled Keystone, and Donald Trump had a trajectory where he was going to increase by a million or two million barrels a day, all keep going.

They just stopped it and then they retarded it.

And now they're resuming it again, and they're about where he was, but they're not where he would have been, number one.

And I think that's really important to point out.

And then, number two,

in addition to that, they didn't do this because

they felt the United States should be energy efficient or that we needed to, you know, lower the price of gas for consumers.

What they did it for was the 2022 mid-conference.

Remember that?

All of a sudden, the strategic petroleum reserve started to be drained, and

it's never been replenished.

So, in other words, they said in 2022,

oh wow, all of that anti-fracking, anti-oil, no more Federal Leasing, no Keystone, no ANMOR

HECTER and bother the frackers, the Texas oil industry, it's not working.

Gas in California, $6 a gallon.

We better do something before the midterms.

I know what we should do.

Let's go talk to Iran.

Let's talk to Venezuela.

Let's talk to the Saudis.

We made fun of the Saudis.

Joe Biden said they were horrible.

Joe, go over there.

Come on, Mr.

President, go over there and apologize and get them to pump oil right before the midterm.

And drain the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

And that's what they're doing.

And believing if they get re-elected, it will go back down and gases will get even higher.

And so when he says he wants to increase energy self-sufficiency and lower the price for consumers, he means that.

And Joe Biden is, to the degree that he pumped more, it's just a temporary election time gimmick.

If I may, Victor, on the energy,

you pointed out some of the ramifications are so much more than just cheaper gas at the pump.

It cuts the legs out from under many of our enemies abroad.

It brings prosperity wherever it goes.

It would create new infrastructure jobs in the United States and elsewhere for the exporting of

natural gas.

When you get an American president and he talks to Putin, Putin says, why are you pumping so much oil and natural gas?

Because it's lowering my price.

When he talks to the Europeans, they're saying, thank God for frackers in Oklahoma and Texas and Pennsylvania.

because we don't have natural gas.

I know we pay a lot for it, liquidified natural gas, but thank God for America's export.

When he goes to the Middle East, a president, and he talks to the Saudis

or the Kuwaitis, our Ghetto,

he doesn't have to ask for anything.

In fact, they say to him, why are you pumping so much oil and gas?

You're lowering the price.

You're not on the market anymore.

You were the big enchilada.

You gobbled up all the oil and we could jack the price up.

But when you're not buying our oil or you're not buying any oil on the national market, we are buying some because we're in California,

then we're in a position of strength and independence.

If he could get California, which has, I think, the fifth or fourth largest reserves of oil and natural gas of all the 50 states, into the game, we would be in great shape.

And I think he'll try to do that on federal land.

So all of that was good.

He talked about housing.

Nobody ever talks about this, and he's been really hitting it.

When you let in 10 to 15, and one of the figures he uses is 20 million, well,

that four or five people to a house, you're talking about 4,000 units, 4 million units of housing.

And

when you don't build any

and you don't increase the supply of doctors, you don't increase the supply of apartments, you don't increase the supply of lawyers, of cops, and you just put 10 San Francisco's into the country, then you end up with what I'm looking out the window now on my avenue.

And that is

just,

how should I say it?

A myriad of illegal aliens.

And where do they live?

They go into old farmhouses where the owner then pulls in a Winnebago.

a, I just saw last night, an SUV with a cord through the window, porter potties,

and the accoutrements of life in Mexico or Central America.

What do I mean by the accoutrements?

I mean chickens, I mean

pit bulls that are not licensed,

I don't think they have vaccinations, and

sheep and goats and cows and more, just all at a menagerie.

And

in a single family zone parcel of let's say a quarter acre or a half acre or two acres, you can have 40 or 50 people there.

And they're not going to stay like there.

They're going to say, wow, right across the street or down there, there's an orchard.

Ah, my girlfriend and I want to get away.

We'll go in the orchard.

Or my wife's been talking to me too

harshly.

I'm going to go slap around.

Nobody, and I've seen that.

Nobody's going to hear me out there.

Oh, my, I got a gun.

Well, I just want to go shoot a red-tailed hawk.

Shoot a turtle in a pond.

I'll go over there.

Oh, wow.

We don't have garbage service.

We can't afford it.

it.

Ah, you know, we got a bunch of car seats.

We got some old, you know, tires.

We got some paint.

We've got a bunch of stuff hanging around.

Let's just go over that guy's orchard at

12 midnight, just dump it all away.

He'll handle it.

He's a wealthy Americano.

Or,

hey, my brother-in-law just stole the car.

We got to strip it down.

Where should we do it?

Oh, we'll take it over there and strip it down.

Or somebody OD, where are you going to OD if you're going to go inject?

Well, go over there.

Tried walking down an almond orchard and seeing these little packets of drugs and syringes or condoms or worse, I won't get into that.

And that's what illegal immigration does.

And there's no infrastructure for it.

There's no housing for it.

I used to go, I won't even mention the type of specialist I go to.

I've mentioned that before, but you go in there.

and he has an appointment and you wait about, you can make an appointment within two months.

You go in there, he said, how's it going, Victor?

Tell me how you feel.

Okay, here's the thing that I'm looking at.

And here's what it is.

And here's a test.

That isn't happening.

You go in the waiting room and you stand up.

And half the people in the waiting room don't speak English.

And the people who are at the desk are hired for that particular reason.

because they need to speak a language other than English to the patients.

You go into the doctor's office and this is what you get.

How's it going?

You know, we're going to do this.

Looking at the test real quick, I don't see a problem.

Maybe this might be something to worrisome.

Do you really want to keep doing this other type of exam or not?

Okay, well, I don't know.

Come back in a year.

Three and a half minutes, four and a half minutes.

And then you go out and you spend more time at the desk making sure the

co-payment was there, your insurance is up to date, almost because they're so paranoid, because these people don't pay.

They don't have any money or they have federal money or they'll say, well, is your insurance?

Yeah, I said,

hey, I want to tell you, I've updated it every three or six months I come in.

I'm tired of it.

That hasn't changed in five years.

Oh,

I know, but we got to get it right here.

We got to sign all these papers.

And it's all.

bureaucratic work because other people are coming from the poorest regions of the world and just dumped on the Medicare system, on the educational system, on the legal system, on the housing system,

and

on the law enforcement system, on the judicial system.

And he doesn't think of that, Joe Biden.

Neither does Kamala Harris.

They don't think of it.

And

it's not very moral, humane.

They keep saying it's moral and humane to take in all the peoples of the world that are poor and distraught.

It's not.

Victor,

this, I sent you this video.

That's maybe it's be a good point to raise this and we can, you know, keep on with the Trump plan, but that the woman has gone viral, this

houseowner in Springfield, Ohio,

whose actual home and property, you know, but mattresses tossed on her lawn, just a daily fight with illegals in a city of about 60,000 that has like 20,000 Haitian illegals have been brought in there in the last couple of years.

I mean, this is

the front line of this fight.

Yeah,

absolutely.

And you know what they can't do?

The woman on that video that was just almost in tears and saying they're going to get out of there, that they're on her lawn, they're yelling at her.

She's not going to do what the people in Martha's Vineyard do.

They're not going to get on, she's not going to get on the, on the

evening news and say, we love all this.

It's our duty to have humane.

and then rent a bunch of buses that pull up along the curb and give them some puff jackets and a little goodwill package and say see you wouldn't want to be uh get the hell out of here

that's what more that's what wealthy people do who support this policy yeah it's all predicated on it's all those deplorables or clingers or latinos or inner city blacks they can deal with it not us We want a virtue signal, not the Gavin Newsoms.

They don't go to Gavin's house.

They don't go to Nancy Pelosi's house.

They don't go to Kamala Harris's house.

They don't go to any of the Bidenists.

And they surely don't go to Calarama, Martha's Vineyard, Hawaii, and the Chicago Obama mansion.

They don't go there.

They only go to people who are middle class and have to deal with it.

And then when that people, that woman went up and started yelling, you can tell everybody it's a racist, NFL big,

nativist.

No, they don't go to people in Palo Alto that I see.

They really don't.

They should come down here and see what it's like to live on the front lines of illegal immigration.

And it's pretty scary, tell you.

I know right now, Jack, if I get in my car and I go down the road, it's happened twice to me, and if I park and somebody hits me, there's a 50% chance statistically that person is going to flee the scene of the accident.

Right.

Almost every automobile accident that I read about in the Fresno V or the local blogs of television stations are the story of somebody running a stop sign, DUI, pulling out and running.

And apparently Joe Biden thinks that when you let in 10 million people

from China, from Africa, from

Latin America, from Mexico, they all come here passing the DMV stringent driving list.

And they would never, jack they would never get in a car and drive if they didn't have a driver he does that's what he thinks or driver training course half of these people have never driven before and they're handed a car and it's lethal go down to 99 and it's just it's like road warrior you know and so

again it's a class thing and that's what this election in some sense about is about if everybody wants to still

all of the different issues and see if there's a common denominator, it is a bipolar

certified credentialed elite.

The managerial class, the bureaucratic class, the upper, upper middle class, the Silicon Valley billionaire class, the Walsh, all of them are not subject to the consequences of their toxic ideology and they voice them on us like lab rats.

And they never suffer the consequences.

And then when people complain that they're destroying your lives by banning your natural gas stove or swamping your doctor's office or putting Haitians on your front lawn then they say illiberal racists and that's how and if you're gonna

that's what the issue is about that's what Kamala Harris has done her entire life She is a very

affluent person who married an entertainment lawyer in Los Angeles, and she grew up not in Oakland as a poor little girl who was oppressed and a victim of racism and didn't have enough to eat, as you would think from her victimization speeches, but in Berkeley and soon to be in a very wealthy, upscale Montreal suburb.

And who's, I think she's part of

0.001% of the population who has two parents or PhDs.

Yeah.

And she's never been subject to left-wing fallout that she's advocated she's the one

yes she was the one that tried i remember when george gascon the sorrel's attorney they kicked out of san francisco popped up in los angeles to do what he did in san francisco to los and she endorsed him

she was behind the 950

uh California law that really set the precedent that if you steal 950 and these guys come in veritably with a they used to come in almost with a calculator now nothing is enforced so they don't care but that was reduced to a misdemeanor that cops didn't even come when that happened she was behind all of that she was behind the whole bay area laxity

and now she talks about i'm madam call me madam prosecutor every once in a while the left said we were now that's not true we were she was she was tough she went after she went after uh deletement kids uh truance and well she may have done some stupid things to get elected, but she was a left-wing prosecutor, always was, always will be, is now.

And if she, again, we get back to that issue.

When they talk about all these

initiatives that they have, they can do them right now.

Right.

Joe Biden, he just admitted, was it yesterday, that the Inflation Reduction Act should have been called the green, basically the Green New Deal.

That's what it was all about.

Everybody said that.

I wrote about that.

A lot of people wrote me and and said, oh, no, no, no,

it didn't reduce inflation.

It spiked it.

So anyway.

Well, Victor,

let's get back to Trump's plan.

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I'm interested in your thoughts on two in particular.

One is the sovereign wealth fund, where Trump said he wanted to create such a fund to invest in quote-unquote great national endeavors, which are infrastructure projects such as highways and airports.

And then the other major thing

that got a lot of attention is citing Elon Musk as an efficiency czar.

And I'm a little, you know, as a free market conservative myself, And somebody who remembers, who's a resident of New York City, who remembers Donald Trump, private citizen,

fixing the, in 1986, the Central Park ice skating rink when New York City couldn't do it.

And he stepped and he did it immediately, efficiently, cheaply.

And I would think his mindset would be when it comes to building things, including airports and highways.

This is where government has 10 thumbs.

Why?

Why'd he get in the sovereign fund on that is beyond me.

But anyway, your thoughts on that, Victor?

Yeah, I'm your thoughts on Elon Musk.

I'm a little worried, like you are, because we're $36 trillion in debt.

So I don't quite understand taking out,

say, oil revenues or whatever the funding is going to come or a particular type of tax.

Why don't you just pay it down the debt?

And every time we've had new green jobs or Solendra or remember shovel-ready jobs, all of these big, or the Inflation Reduction Act or Build Back Better, or you name it,

It doesn't work that well.

I'd rather just see the money go through the Congress and get rid of earmarks and just

spend it.

But anytime you think you're going to put all of the special money into the special fund and then you're going to go do all these things, I would rather have it targeted.

Like maybe you could have a commission that says we are going to fund the top 1,000

road building projects in the United States that a disinterested panel will adjudicate is where most of the deaths occur in the United States, which interchanges, which stretches of roads that's statistically based.

And then we're going to direct federal monies there.

But I don't, I don't, the fund kind of bothers me.

Elon Musk, I mean,

he,

I think he works best outside of government.

And

I don't,

if I'm opposed to Mark Zuckerberg working with the FBI

and all of these other people who did nefarious things,

I just developed from that experience that even good people, it's too much of a temptation if they are both outside of government being regulated by people like

themselves in government.

If he is to find waste and fraud, it's too much of a temptation that he may find waste and fraud with his rivals rather than himself.

And so not that he

would do that, but he's human.

Otherwise, every day,

we keep getting back to Bill Crystal's pronouncement that Eli Moss was a mediocrity.

And,

you know, whether it's this empty spaceship that flew back waiting for Elon's

dragon or whatever it is to go pick them up in February.

We're lucky we have people like Elon in the private sector

because whether it's Tesla and the government EVs that he competes with, or the government brands, or the ones that are approved by the Biden administration, or the type of chargers that they put in,

or whether it's the federally subsidized space program, either they can't do it and he can, or he puts pressure on them to get better.

And that's why he's valuable.

And

so

I don't get the hatred of him because

I remember walking just five years ago, four years ago down University Avenue and everybody was gushing, I have a Tesla.

He was like a god, you know what I mean?

To the left.

And then he crosses them ideologically and they go nuts.

But he's done.

He's done his adopted country a great service in so many ways.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's

like one of the Swiss Army knives with lots of

tools in them.

So,

hey, Victor, we're going to stay on the economic issue for a little bit, and we'll get your thoughts on Goldman Sachs praising Kamala Harris right after these important messages.

We are back with the Victor Davis-Hansen Show.

Again, we're recording on Sunday the 8th, and this particular podcast is up on Tuesday the 10th, prior to the Harris-Trump debate, which Victor and Sammy Wink will dissect later in the week.

So, Victor, here's a headline.

Goldman Sachs says the economy will be better under Harris than Trump.

Democrats and their media allies are celebrating a report from Goldman Sachs, concluding that the economy would be worse off under a second Trump administration than under Kamala Harris.

Victor, I don't think anyone believes this.

Snowball's chance in hell.

Your thoughts.

Why would we listen to someone who makes so much money

that they will be immune from whatever disastrous policies that will destroy the rest of us?

And then they can afford the luxury for social or cultural reasons of supporting a neo-socialist.

And that's what we're talking about.

We really are.

It reminds me of the aristocrats during the Bolshevik

revolution who all thought that

Lenin was kind of cute and neat, but they had so much land and so much money that he would never go after them.

And even if he did, it wouldn't hurt them.

And there was a lot of, they just didn't go for Kerensky.

They went for Lenin.

And they found out what happened.

But it's, I don't listen to anything Goldman Goldman Sachs says.

I have no animus toward them, but they're just, they live in a different world, all those people.

And when they think they're going, it's like Dick Cheney.

When Dick Cheney is reportedly coming out, what Dick Cheney is really saying is that he is for Camela Harris's appointments.

Kamala Harris the other day was in Michigan, and apparently, From press reports, I haven't seen them discredited yet.

She was, or she wasn't.

She doesn't say anything.

Her aides were dropping hints that Keith Ellison, remember the pro-Antifa, pro-BLM,

I guess he was charged with spousal abuse or something of that sort.

I don't know what it was.

It wasn't charged, but there were rumors.

She was dropping his name as the next attorney general, sort of like she's going to be, he's going to be her wingman the way Eric Holder was.

That is what Dick Cheney is endorsing.

Dick Cheney is endorsing the Sorrels attorney generals.

And I don't understand that these,

the Never Trumpers or the Goldman Sachs people, that's what they endorse.

They don't just endorse being kind of liked by the left and kind of having better press coverage, or if they write a book or they show some, or having somebody write a nice column about them, or if they have one of their

multi-multi-million dollar resort homes that the neighbors then come over for dinner or something.

I understand that, but what they're really doing to the middle class is they are promoting an agenda that will destroy the middle class.

And they're promoting, they're also sending the message, as I said last time.

It goes like this.

Whether it's George Will or Bill Crystal or Dick Cheney or Liz Cheney, everything I told you for 50 years that was essential to saving the country, secure borders, a low-tax, deregulated economy to spur investment and entrepreneurship, a tough deterrent foreign policy with a strong defense budget, all of that, reasonable rules on late-term abortions and partial birth abortions, a tough

funda police deterrent crime policy, all of that, it was all a lie because I don't believe it anymore.

Now, you can say that I don't believe anymore because because Donald Trump in January 6th, but it doesn't matter what my reasons are.

The fact is there's two different agendas and they're antithetical.

One agenda is 90%

similar to all of the people's, all of these characters that I mentioned to their lifelong advocacies.

So why are they rejecting 90% of what they told us was essential?

to give them money or to give them votes or to give them support?

And the answer is they got their feelings hurt.

They lost their magazine.

They lost their speaking fees.

They lost their TV billets.

They lost their authorities.

No one listens to them.

There has been.

They destroyed their careers.

They committed career suicide.

And they're angry and they blame it all on the orange man.

That's all I can come up with.

And so.

Well, it's also, it's those people because he's like, they could be.

Imagine George Will in his car at an intersection and believing what he says he believes and then seeing an impromptu 6, 10 pickup trucks drive by with American flags and Trump flags flying out the back, which such things happen in America.

And to be like, I don't want to be associated with those people.

I think there's a real

look down the nose at that.

It works two ways.

They want to be associated.

It's commission omission.

They don't want to be omitted or ostracized from from the good people.

These are the people who have the beautiful homes, tastefully decorated.

They wear the right clothes.

They have the right brands.

They have the right stamped degrees after their name.

Their kids are in the right schools.

They're in the right zip codes.

They want to be liked by the right people.

And then it's co-mission.

They do not want to be associated with those people at those rallies.

They really don't.

They don't like a traditional American.

They just don't.

And

they don't worry about that.

Like I said, they're more worried about.

Go ahead.

They're more worried about taking an AR-15 from some guy who makes 50,000 and goes out in his back one-acre plot in Michigan and shoots targets or he goes, shoots varmints.

They want to take his, but they'll leave 400,000 of them, basically military versions of them, in

Afghanistan.

And we're just supposed to say, well, you left 400,000 semi-automatic weapons in the hands of terrorist killers?

Are you serious?

Well,

we would like to take your guns.

So that's who they are.

I mean,

I don't know.

The more that you hear about them and

the more

the more bizarre they are to figure out.

I mean, they're not, I don't know why they, I don't know why they even use the word never Trump.

It's been nine years.

It's like taking, you know, beating a dead horse.

It's 999.

They're not never Trumpers.

They're left-wing converts.

They're not just Democrats, they're Kamala Harris Democrats.

That's who they are.

Kamala Harris, Joe Biden Democrats, the most left-wing radical.

We're not talking about Bill Clinton circa 1992 or 96.

We're not even talking about Jimmy Carter.

We're not even talking about Barack Obama, which they told us chapter and verse was the Prince of Darkness.

We're talking about a shift in the Democratic Party we've never seen before.

And they're going to say, well, Trump, you tell me exactly your position, Dick Cheney, and how different it is from Trump.

I'd like to know that what we told, what you were for.

The only thing I can see that's different is he doesn't believe in optional military operations in the Middle East.

That's about all I can say.

You know what the weird thing is?

When this is all over, and it will all be over either in one of two ways, Trump will be elected and he'll be president for four years, and then he will retire and ride off into the sunset, and they will come back and try to repopulate that, or he will lose, and they will come back.

But the point is,

their fixation with Trump has a shelf life.

But what they did does not.

Right.

Does not.

What are they going to do when Trump is gone?

Are they going to suddenly say, well, I'm a Republican and I want to rebuild the Republican Party in my image?

I don't think so.

They should ask themselves why there is a MAGA movement.

Where did it come from?

Why was there a Tea Party movement?

Why were there 10 million people who didn't vote for John McCain and Mitt Romney who were self-identified conservatives in the Midwest?

Why did the blue wall fall for the first time?

Why, why, why?

What was it about John McCain and Mitt Romney and Bob Dole and the two bushes that didn't appeal to these people?

And I think the answer is that they were an entrenched elite that were no, were felt to be, I think they were different, but they were felt to be not that qualitatively different than their opposition.

And they both shared both the Democratic and Republican elite, a disdain for

the middle and lower middle classes.

Right.

As, you know, Amini Schlaves wrote the bestseller about the forgotten man.

And when you're forgotten, whether it's in

society, in a church, why do people leave the church?

Churches, oh, I didn't even know the priest knows me.

Or why do they leave the business?

Or as

say subscribers to magazines?

Well, I complained and no one got back to me.

You know, you just don't, you just don't think I even exist.

And it builds up, legitimately, builds up an animus, as it should, you know, I'm here.

Listen to me.

So the Tea Party.

I've said that

a while back when I was asked about the supposed transformation of J.D.

Vance from a rabid Trump disliker to a rabid Trump supporter.

And I,

if you want to ask why that is, just go read Thomas Wolfe, You Can't Go Home Again, or Look Homeward Angel, or The Time in the Rock, any of those massive, kind of ponderous novels that are beautifully written, but it's the same story.

Somebody who grew up in a very small town,

tended to be rural and southern a little bit,

and

they

got tired of the, I don't know what, the colostrophobia as young people do, 18, 19, 20, they want to, bright-eyed and bushy tail go out.

J.D.

Vance goes to the military, goes to Yale.

He went to our house there, he goes to Yale.

He writes, he's a great writer like Thomas Wolfe.

And all of a sudden, he's lavished with praise by the art and literary crowd, the Hollywood crowd.

And he starts to feel that this is kind of liberating coming from where he did.

And then he starts to absorb it and digest it.

And he looks at their values and he looks at what.

they prize and he looks at whom they make fun of and he looks at their empty

status, careerist,

utopian

agendas and the contempt they have for working people.

And Thomas Wooke was a great scene.

I think it's in Can't Go Home Again, where the guys get burned up

and the elevators are going up.

He's going up to see his very wealthy friend, and they don't really know who, they don't care.

Oh,

where's the elevator guy?

I haven't seen him lately.

Or there's Alexander Calder, Pinky Logan, or something.

This guy comes in and he puts all these little paper-mâché and hanger, you know, I don't know what they are, you know, like Alec Calder did.

And everybody goes, ooh, ah, oh my God,

that is so path-breaking.

And, you know, Thomas Woods going, oh, it's just a bunch of junk.

And this guy has a little suitcase and he brings up.

Or they say things like, oh, Badoz is such a great poet, or I'm reading Spingler, all this stuff.

And then I think

they get sick of it and they go back home

and they can't go home again and jd bance then is now going back to what his roots were he knows the pathologies of what he criticized in the hill but he would prefer that to the world that absorbed him with his success so it wasn't it was just a natural and it's so common i have it in myself i mean i'm speaking right now from where i was born and the people i see every day i can tell you do not have bachelor's degree in this area and I like them, and I prefer them to people I won't say where, but anyway,

that's why I'm sympathetic to him.

Yeah.

It's some kind of self-hatred, not your part, but you can't help but be where you're from, and you can't run away from it.

And I, you know, I can't run away from the Bronx.

I'm 64 years old, but it's part of me.

And if you look down your nose at your roots, you're, you know, you're, there's something of self-hatred in that.

And got to remember, these people are cosmopolitans in the sense they're oikophobic.

They hate their own culture and their country.

A lot of them do.

And they love Europe and they love to trash the United States.

Trash the United States in the abstract, but in the concrete, siphon off the good life from it.

And they love the good life.

Anyway.

I would just say, well, I have to say one last thing about Will, who I know you served with him on a board, and he was still very highly thought of at

National Review, but he reviewed Al Felsenberg, did a biography of Bill Buckley, and Will reviewed, and George Will was, he was a National Review writer once upon a time, and he used it to attack

of all people, Whitaker Chambers, as because Chambers' book, Witness,

obviously has the theme of religion in it and God, even though it's

the classic story of the fight between freedom and communism.

But Will used Buckley, this Buckley biography, to attack Chambers as the root cause of

Imaga, you know, like why a dumpy, fat, sweaty guy, anti-I know, and it was just like

some crazy stretch.

I had no, the thing about all of this, I have no personal animus.

I served on a board with George Will.

I liked him.

He was thoughtful.

But I, and I, in the early, the very initial, when they announced the candidates in 2015, I was gravitating probably toward Walker or Cruz.

But when it became clear that Trump was going to get the nomination, I thought everybody would rally behind the nominee.

And when I watched him, what he said and what he wrote, I wanted to go over to him and say, please don't do that.

You're hurting yourself, and that you have a trajectory with career implosion and bitterness and anger if you continue to double down on that.

And you could have said that to 20 other people.

Please don't do that.

You don't understand how you sound.

You're talking down to the middle class and

basically saying they're stupid and they're tricked, but you don't know why they're voting for Trump or why they're voting for the MAGA.

There is a reason why.

And

so, yeah.

Well,

he's so I had no anna.

I had no

same thing with all those people.

Well, I don't.

I just don't.

I mean, they don't, I don't know much about them anymore.

Some of them I knew better than others, but

they didn't understand that

when

they came out with this hysteria, like you see in the bulwark or to a lesser extent on the dispatch, or people like

Nicole Wallace,

Mona Sharon.

What they don't understand is they're illustrating two things.

One, they're very, very bitter that when they look at their level of influence or compensation or regard that people hold them or their status or their comfortability with a particular,

they're not as confident or happy now in 2024 as they were in 2014.

And they blame that on Trump.

And they don't realize that when you

don't just say, I'm a Democrat now, and I'm a registered Democrat, and I have had an awakening, but they still use this never Trump, or I'm kind of, and they're not.

They're just using that for careerist purposes because they think that the left will either patronize them or subsidize them and finds them useful.

But they're not.

They're not never Trumpers anymore.

It's been nine years now.

Get over it.

They're not.

They're left-wing.

They're left-wing.

Absolutely agree, Victor.

They're left-wing.

You could say, I love my wife.

I love her.

I love her.

I love her.

You go out and cheat.

You're a cheater.

What you do is how you vote

is your point is indicative of what you truly are.

Yeah, that's what they are.

Victor,

we have time for one more topic here, I think, and that has to do with the infamous Alexa.

And let's get your thoughts on that when we return from these final important messages.

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Victor, you saw the news stories.

Some folks were asking Alexa,

who should I vote for?

And

it praised Kamala Harris.

And then Google or whatever it was, they said Google product came out.

It said, oh, this was an error.

But Victor, somebody had to.

approve this.

Somebody had to write the script.

Somebody did this for a purpose.

And these things that happen in this way, oops, oh, we got caught.

It just seems to be on one side of the ledger.

Are you saying, Jack, that when Game of Thrones just happened to have the beheaded

people's head on a spike, they had an image of George Bush's head and not John Kerry's?

And are you saying that when Facebook just the other day decided to shut down an entire online web page of courses, it just happened to be Hillsdale College as as they shut down and not Stanford's?

Are you trying to say that when the FBI pressured

Facebook and Twitter to work with them to suppress the information on Hunter's laptop as inauthentic or Russian collusion, they didn't do that about Joe Biden?

Yeah, I think you're right.

So the problem, what you're saying is that every time that the private sector goes in and takes a product or a service and warps it

in a

political fashion and gets caught and apologizes, why is it always on the left?

When the Summer in the Park Shakespearean Festival

puts on a version of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar and the guy, and why is Caesar looked like Trump and being stabbed by people?

Why don't they do that with someone else that happens to be on the left, like Biden or somebody?

They always do that.

The answer to that, Jack, especially in the case of Silicon Valley, if anybody wants to know why,

I suggest you do this.

You go to a Menlo Park coffee shop, or you go to a high-end restaurant in Los Altos, or you go to, that's a bad, or you go to any place on University Avenue where

techies hang out in Palo Alto or Sunny Bear

and just look at the people and listen to them.

And

if you do that, you will see why

to the degree that they affect your lives by the order of Google searches or their interference with the political process via Twitter, the old Twitter or Facebook or Amazon news or

Apple news, whatever it is, you will have the answer right there, just listening to them.

There are 90%

detest detest traditional conservative america and they can't leave it alone and they know another thing if they do what you're talking about

uh enter into the political realm with their technology they won't when they get caught they will apologize but they won't stop and their superiors will not fire them because they're doing what they think is their God reasons work.

We never know who actually, who did it, who was a proof.

No, no, you never hear the names,

they never get fired.

Every once in a while, like that young woman who decided to be the censorship

czar for the government gets a little bit too high profile and overt, and then there's a pushback.

But most of the time, you can, it's like the Stanford Internet Observatory that just was shut down.

Or who were the people, who were the exact people

who interfered with the dissemination of the news in the last election?

Who are the exact people at Stanford who picked the words like American and patriot and immigrant that you couldn't talk about?

Who are they?

I can tell you who they are.

I can see them every day when I'm up there.

And I know who they are.

I know how they think.

I've associated with them for 20 years.

And they have a contempt for,

I mean, It gets to the point of character.

About eight years ago, I did something I hadn't done in 20 years.

i wrote a check at a grocery store i did not have my credit card but i had my license i left my credit cards i was going through them and redoing my wallet and i left them on the table so i didn't even know if you could write a check anymore i usually use my credit cards or cash i went into whole foods in palo alto and i pulled out my check and the woman with

purple hair and sleeve tattoos and a piercing in her lower lip and her nostril and five in her ear said to me, where is Selma?

It says, Selma on your check

and on your license.

I pulled out my license.

I said, It's near Fresno.

Oh, Fresno?

I've never been to Fresno.

Why would anybody want to go to Fresno?

I said, the same reason why anybody would want to or not to go to Palo Alto here.

So I said, I can tell you there's places in Fresno that are nicer than places in Palo Alto and vice versa.

But the point was that she was just overt in that.

And then in 2016, I got into a little match.

I don't know if you remember that Silicon Valley wannabe CEO.

It might have been a bed and breakfast, but everybody was so angry.

Remember in 2016 after Trump won?

In that 90-day period, and this woman said, she posted about her company or something.

I quoted it

on social media that

These people should never be allowed to be in control because they come from horrible places.

They have horrible schools.

They have horrible roads.

They have horrible everything.

And there's no good restaurants where they are.

There's nothing there.

And then she went on and on and she got a lot of pushback.

I quoted her a lot.

But that was one of the few times.

There was another guy in Silicon Valley and he, I quoted him and the dying citizen.

And he was from India and he basically said about California election,

this is good

that people are leaving California because we have to make way for immigrants that are superior to them and we want them all out.

And I quoted him chapter and verse.

He was a techie.

So what I'm saying is the techie industry, not all of them, but

it would be surprising.

Let me put it this way, Jack.

It would be surprising if they didn't interfere with their jobs in a political fashion.

They feel that

the end of getting rid of Donald Trump Trump justifies any means necessary, just like George Bush, which brings us back to this other irony that when Bush-Cheney were there, they were called Nazis, Garth Vader,

horrible people, blood on their hands, almost as bad as Trump.

And, you know, when you were on the right, you would write articles.

I did and said, you know, why do we always have to compare George Bush to Hitler or a digital brown shirt or Garrison Keillor saying this about him or John Glenn, of all people, or Angela Merkwood, this the old Nazi thing.

They were all doing that.

And we were saying, don't do that.

And now those people are kind of doing this, the same thing in a different way.

Although I haven't heard of what George W.

Bush is doing, but I imagine he is on the same page as Dick Cheney.

I hope not, but he might be.

By the way, you saw that Sulzberger, the New York Times owner, wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post

lamenting the attacks on the media.

And I think, these are the two institutions that

blackballed the

Hunter Biden laptop story, among others.

Hey, everybody,

do not fall for those crocodile tears.

Do not do it.

Camilla Harris went into a spice store yesterday and talked about, she had just talked about unity and her plan to bring everybody together.

And the owners of the spice store basically said, we don't like any mega people.

We were overt about it.

And if we lose their business, that makes us happy.

They don't believe in climate change.

And she went in and, you know, patronized that store.

After they all talk about unity.

Now she has tried, I'm good old Joe from Scranton Stick.

I'm good old Camela from Oakland.

That's not working.

And I'm secluding myself just like Joe did, but I don't have the COVID excuse.

And now the polls are about even.

If they're about even, she knows that Donald Trump is ahead.

And now it's the unity, just like Joe.

I'm going to bring this together.

As soon as he got in, we started watching those Phantom of the Opera.

You know what I mean?

Those

screaming speeches.

He did one the other day.

That's the thing I got so sick of Biden when he'd go.

They would say, what are you going to do if Putin goes into

what would you tell Putin if he goes into Ukraine

after don't, don't!

Or, how dare he, how dare he?

What kind of

person do you think we are?

And I just got so sick.

He did that the other day.

He gave a speech and he went into the liars and suckers lie that people have discredited, like the Charlottesville lie.

And he started screaming, and then he got back to the Bo child lie when he said i wish my son was here iraq you know iraq

iraq and i i tell you what i do if trump said i i can't tell you what i do and what he wanted to say is when i was a candidate i'd say i told everybody i would take trump behind the gym and beat him up right but he he he keeps he just like he did and you and i've talked about that at length he defamed and ruined the life of a truck driver that was not culpable and hit in an accident and may have tried to swerve

and hurt himself.

But he tried to avoid Joe Biden's first wife in a car.

And yet

he, for what, a decade?

You know better than I, you wrote an article about it.

He said that the driver was drunk and had killed his wife and it ruined the person's life.

His family begged him not to do it.

And

now he's promulgated this myth that his son went to Iraq and died.

And when he's called on it, then he retreats to, well, he died because of burn pits.

But I don't know if that's proven by any.

I mean, I've had,

I don't know, I'm sitting on a farm right now.

And

my mother died at 66, who grew up here.

Her sister, my aunt, died at 49, who grew up here.

Their other sister died at 62, who grew up here.

My sister-in-law, who was here for 30 years, died at

51, 50, and my daughter died at 26.

And do I go around saying Monsano killed him?

You know, or Parapion, I don't know what did it, if anything, maybe it was genetic.

But that's what he does.

He just blames, blames, blames, blames, blames, and then he fabricates things.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

He's a nasty ass Walter.

He's a very, yeah, I think the reason I'm kind of animated, everybody, is I get very tired of good old Joel Biden from Scranton.

The reason that they got him off the ticket was not just that they felt that he was demented and senile.

It was they didn't like him because he was screaming and yelling and that dragadacho, I give you a, this is a word of a Biden.

The word of a Biden is less than zero.

And they were sick of it.

They just thought, you know what?

We would rather have an inane, smiling, cackling, empty, inert Kamala than him, because

his face gets contorted, he shouts and screams, and he's not a nice person, and he's eight points behind.

If he was smiley, even if he wasn't, we would keep him on, but he's eight points behind, and it's a force multiplier, and he's going to lose all of us our job because he's a mean, nasty SOB.

in his doddage.

That's what the message, and they were right about that.

And we're going to cancel 14 million votes because that guy has no goodwill by anybody.

And they were writing up to the very moment that they got him that he is selfish.

He should never have run.

He's an egomaniac.

And then it was Washingtonian.

He's George Clooney.

He's a George Washington of our time stepping down.

How noble.

He didn't step down.

He was forced out.

Part of the reason he was forced out among his dementia and his bad polls was he was a nasty person who was really cruel to people and

screaming at people and yelling at them.

Kind of lazy ass, too.

He says 40% of his time as president has been on vacation.

Maybe that's good.

Maybe it should be 50%, you know.

Well, I have mixed emotions about it because right now, and I wrote an article to come out tomorrow.

We don't have an administration.

We have a guy who,

the three days a week he works and the one, two weeks a month he's not on vacation, he's there from 9 to 12.

And then we have, and he's demented, and then we have a cackling, inane,

I don't want to say ignorant, I don't know what she is, mediocrity, and she's out on the campaign trail.

So I guess the government is being run by Blinken and Jake Sullivan and the Obamas and the donor club.

I don't know, but is that worse than having them there?

Having her as the space czar

and having her as the borders are and explaining bidenomics between cackles?

I don't think so.

But if you look abroad,

and this is what's weird, you look abroad right now, Jack,

the Houthis have just taken over the Red Sea.

They just sunk a Greek tanker, and they're basically sticking their tongue out with their thumb in their ears, going, ha, ha, ha, you send over a million-dollar cruise missile or a $5 million type of, I don't know, sophisticated bomb, and we just shower you with $5,000 Iranian drones.

What are you going to do about it?

You're never going to hit our grid.

You're never going to take out our ports.

The Red Sea is ours.

You can't even get into the southern Mediterranean without our permission.

And then you got China,

you know, basically crashing into Philippine ships, basically saying the South China Sea is no longer international waters.

We got the Spratly Island bases.

It's ours.

Then you got Russia saying the Black Sea is our lake now.

And

we don't listen to anything you say.

And then we've got Brazil saying,

we're just going to end up, we're going to get rid of free speech and expression, get rid of that awful Elon Musk now that he's for Trump.

We're going to be a Venezuela, and we're going to follow the Nicaragua Castro model and sweeping all of South America.

Ha ha ha ha.

And you look around the world, and it's just.

Somebody's going to do something stupid because they think, will we ever have a chance like this again when there is nobody running the United States government?

Everybody is freelancing?

I couldn't believe it that yesterday, the hostage negotiation, did you hear that the British head of their intelligence services and Mr.

Burns, the head of the CIA, were informing the American people about what would be happening with the hostages and what decisions would be made in the negotiation?

I thought that they would be quiet about that and report to the president that would have a press conference, but they're just doing it.

And I don't, I just think they're freelancing.

I think everybody is freelancing.

Everybody is freelancing.

And he has no idea what's going on.

And I think somebody's going to do something stupid, whether it's before the election or after.

And I mean by stupid, because the United States is still strong in its decline, but they're going to try to find some soft spot somewhere.

And I don't know if it's going to be the Middle East or the Ukrainian border or it's going to be in Latin America or China and the Philippines or Taiwan or North Korea.

It's somewhere.

Because they're going to think we're never going to get this again.

The other thing, just to finish quickly, is I don't think the United States is going to be lecturing the Brazilians about jurisprudence or the rule of law.

I don't think they're going to tell the countries in the Middle East, you better start getting it.

democratic because I don't think they are.

I don't think that message is going to sell.

Not when you try to take a leading presidential contender off the ballot in 16 states, not when you unleash four prosecutors that have had contacts with the Biden administration, and not when you

impeach a president twice.

And what we've seen, collusion, disinformation.

We have no moral credibility to lecture other countries on

the separation of powers, the independent judiciary, the rule of law, the venerable.

The bigger banana republic.

Yeah.

And you can see it.

New York Times.

Have you seen the new fashion where these op-ed writers are talking about getting rid of the Constitution?

It's an impediment.

Yeah.

Oh, well.

We the people, we the elite.

They wanted to begin.

Hey, Victor, before we head off into the sunset here on this particular episode,

if I may, you've just

talked about this.

You had, again, a great, great

podcast with Sammy the other day discussing the Second World War.

But this was in reaction

to this historian, Darrell Cooper, who was interviewed by Tucker Carlson about World War II and his premise that

Winston Churchill is essentially to blame.

So you've talked about it.

You've written a piece in the free press.

I recommend folks go check that out where you pick apart the many flaws in this Daryl Cooper's argument.

But

I have a feeling you're taking some incoming one way or another because it didn't appear

on the

Schmo podcast that nobody listens to or YouTube that nobody watches.

It happened on Tucker Carlson's

YouTube show that significant viewership.

And I think you might have some things you want to see.

Yeah, I got a lot of pushback.

Part of the thing, I have to put it, I put it in my website, but there was a paywall, so that what's on there is only half.

I didn't have, I mean,

about four venues called me and said, would you write about this?

Because you wrote a book on World War II.

And they weren't, you know, they weren't just on one issue.

They were people from various

aspects of that interview on World War II.

So I looked looked at it and I was very surprised.

And I said to myself, I'm not going to get into,

you know, I thought he was a historian because it said, Tucker said he was the most popular

historian that was writing for the masses, you know, the most widely acclaimed, popular, I'm not quoting him exactly.

Darrell Cooper.

So I didn't know anything about his website.

And

my first reaction was, oh my God, I wrote this World War II book, and i thought i read almost everything a person could read about it and then i'm teaching a world war ii class for pepperkin and i'm reading new stuff but i haven't heard of it so i thought oh wow well then

i i didn't hear of it because he hasn't written anything on world war ii his venues are podcasts and blogs which is okay except it's not

it's not

You know, it's not, you write an article, somebody attacks you, you have a footnote, you document this, you have to know which scholarly source to value and which not.

You look at all of these techniques that history scholarship is about.

So I wrote just without anger, I just tried to point out that what he said, which I went over with Sammy in detail, was

it wasn't a matter of controversy.

It wasn't just, it wasn't true.

Just to remind people, I'll just take one example.

He said

that

when

the Germans went in on their Operation Barbara Rosha in January, excuse me, June 22nd of 1941, they were confronted with 2 million prisoners and they starved them to death.

And he said they were totally unprepared.

It was not,

basically, implied it was not planned.

He said one of them said, what do we do?

That is factually wrong.

There were at least four criminal orders issued by the Fuhrer that said, execute commissars, execute intellectuals, execute communists,

and give the army exemption from legal culpability that would apply to prisoners.

But more importantly,

there was a guy named, and I didn't even get a chance to write this, George Thomas, and he was an SS.

officer, high general in the German army.

He went and came up with this idea along

with a guy called Baki,

who was a

sort of an economist, sort of a Reich minister, and they came up with a hunger plan.

And the hunger plan was when the Russians, when the Germans went in and confronted the Russians, there wasn't going to be,

you know, the Geneva Convention.

They wanted to take the food out of the Ukraine, Belarus, and ship it to Germany to make sure that the standard of living in Germany did not fall according to the fortunes of war.

And it says specifically, Jack, that it's a war of extermination and that they expected 20 or 30 million people to be starved.

And they say explicitly in the record.

We're going to work these people.

And if they can't work, they're going to starve.

And then Franz Halder, who was the chief of staff of the German army, said, this is a war of extermination and they are going to starve.

So

it's not even in dispute.

And when he said that it was just, oh, well, it's just a war, that was wrong.

But I'm not attacking him personally.

All I want to do there.

So then I thought, maybe.

And I'm going to start this this week or as soon as I get the, I have a couple more ultras in the pipeline, but I'm going to go through his entire interview only because of this reason.

He's announced that he's doing another World War II project.

And I'm doing this as a public service to him.

I'm going to go through what he said.

And very politely, without any ad hominem, I'm going to suggest that these statements he said are not his statements and my corrections, but they're facts.

They're based on facts and data.

When he says, that you can't say this about World War I, the causes,

he does not know that there's at least three books about Germany and the causes of World War I that go through every possible revisionist argument, or that the great Donald Kagan wrote a book on the causes of war and the preservation of peace, where he has a whole chapter about

Germany.

Or Neil Ferguson wrote his thesis book, Pity of War, and Kagan said it was Germany's fault.

And Ferguson said, no, it was Britain's fault.

So there was a control, it's all been controversial.

There's no suppression.

So to say that we can't say this,

people can say anything.

All that we ask is you show that there's documentation and evidence that supports it.

The other thing is, very quickly, is that I had a lot of people who said,

I don't know what they're, maybe the right or center or maybe left said, well, you criticize, you critique that, but you didn't critique Tucker.

And Tucker brought him on his show, and Tucker nodded.

And

you're a coward.

Well, a couple of things.

When you have, I've had people on my show,

maybe 20 interviews.

It's you have to be tough, but you bring them on the show to give their views because they're not being aired very well.

So Tucker thinks that he has got a free speech platform that will not be subject to the censorship of Fox.

And he will put on controversial people there who are maybe out of the mainstream, Alex Berenson on vaccinations or what Candace has become.

But the problem that I see with it is that

people come on there because he has a, you go on there, you get 40, 50, 60 million views.

So they want to come on and then say things that are historically unaccurate or controversial, or in the case of Candace, and maybe this person in question is anti-Semitic.

And then

that becomes mainstream.

And so

it seems to me that,

and I have to say this as a person who owes Tucker a debt of gratitude because I was on Fox, but for about five years, he put me on Tuesday night right after his monologue.

And I can tell you

that if anybody goes on Tucker and he let me speak, he was polite.

I've met him before.

I knew him a little bit before he was on Fox.

He's always been a wonderful person to me and everything.

So

I didn't want to criticize him, but I'm offering this in the spirit of constructive criticism because I think

what he needs to do is understand that when he has this open platform and he's going to get all sorts of taboo viewpoints from the right who are not otherwise allowed to go on

Fox, there may be a reason why they're not allowed because

some of them are voicing anti-Semitic things that are crazy.

And some of them are talking about World War II in ways that have, that they're not supported by the evidence.

There's no evidence for it.

I mean, zilts, zero.

You talk about the starvation of

prisoners.

You better talk about George Thomas.

You better talk about France Halder.

You better talk

about

Bakke's hunger plan.

That's just there.

You better talk about the Fuhrer Directive.

But if you don't do that, and you just say it was just chaos, it was accidental, or it was just expected.

And then

it spreads.

And what I mean is I won't mention this other person who's a graduate, I think a graduate student at Hillsville.

Then he chimes in and says,

you know, well,

We have nothing to say because we had the Japanese internment.

And if we were at war and somebody invaded our country

and we were short oil, we might let them starve.

Well, that's not the parallel, is it?

The Germans were not starving.

They were going into Russia, and they were not starving in June 1941.

They had been basically at peace for over a year.

They had robbed and stolen the resources of continental Europe.

When they went into

Russia, they were not starving.

They had plenty of food in the Ukraine to feed the Russians.

They just didn't want to give them because they wanted to kill them because because it was consistent with the 20-year plan of Mein Kalm.

So what they were doing was basically slaughtering people by working them to death or starving them.

It had nothing to do with the Japanese internment, which was a widely controversial thing in the United States.

And people fought that.

And I mentioned with Sammy, My mother was a 17-year-old first girl to be president of her high school class and tried to organize the whole community to stop it.

And I know so many farmers that were caretakers for expropriated land that put the money in a trust account

and the land was returned back to their own neighbors.

My grandfather,

if he had a prejudice, it was he would say this to me, Victor, the Japanese Americans are past masters of farm.

Can I take you?

And we would drive around.

He said, my God, look at how they farm.

They're immaculate.

There's not a weed in those vineyards.

They're out there before anybody else in the morning.

And

they're the hardest working, most law-abiding, best neighbors I've ever had.

And

one of them, a family, named their daughter after my grandmother, in part because of how they treated people during this.

But the point is, it wasn't even near that.

They didn't, you know, it's, and so

I don't know what the right is trying to do with World War II.

I think it has something to do with Ukraine and maybe Gaza.

They're trying to say, we have a bi-coastal uniparty that is now not allowing any dissonant voice on Ukraine or Gaza.

And this is exactly what they did World War II.

And in their view, Churchill becomes, I don't know what he becomes, Biden or somebody.

Everything they said, I think I'm not exaggerating.

Almost everything he said about Churchill was demonstrably untrue.

I don't even think he knew that Churchill didn't come into office when World War I started.

He kept talking about

he refused a peace offer right after the end of Pope.

Churchill wasn't even prime minister.

He wasn't even prime minister until May 10th of 1940.

So I could go on, but

I like Tucker.

I like him a lot.

I owe him a lot.

I think he would do himself a great service if he brought on his

show

someone that he could argue with, that's a big supporter of, let's say, what would be the most controversial thing, maybe a supporter of Netanyahu, and then debate him, debate him.

And let, you know what I mean, get people on there with different views because

he has a huge platform.

And he has a huge platform because he's considerate to his guest, but

he's got guests on there that know that, that

he's very polite.

He's a gentleman, and he's got certain views that they feel that they can elaborate on, and he won't interject.

And then they become synonymous with his own, and it's not going to end well.

And so,

I,

well, because I like him a lot, I hope he stops

putting on guests that like this.

Not because I believe in censorship, I don't.

It's not a matter of censorship, it's a matter of offering a platform to magnify views that are demonstrably untrue.

That's all.

Well, prudence is a virtue, but also, Victor, the upside of all this is

blowing smoke your way, but your

education on deconstructing or carpet bombing, Cooper, and some of the other things you brought up in the podcasts with Sammy and in the free press piece are just terrific.

So I encourage people, if they haven't listened to the Friday podcast, to go back and do that.

I want to say one thing about anti-Semitism

to end this show.

There's something wrong with this country right now.

When you talk to people who are Jewish, and

last year I talked with Jewish Americans at an event that I was speaking at, and the topic of conversation is what type of weapon to defend yourself there are buying.

And they have never bought them.

Never bought them.

Residents of America, right?

Yes.

Or

they are trading stories about Jews they knew have been harassed

in public or they've been targeted or their houses have been

defaced

or

their children have been at a university and being spit at and no one speaks out about it.

There's something wrong with this country.

I've met Candace Owens.

I liked her.

I think, you know, there was, but when she gets on there and starts talking about things that she does not support with documented evidence, and it can be proved demonstrably untrue by just 20 minutes of research, even an amateur can do that, and she still does it.

It's not good.

And what we're doing in this country, mostly on the left, but

this new right,

you've got to be very careful about because what we're going to do is we're going to mainstream anti-Semitism.

And it's going to get out of control.

And it is already out of control because we have created a situation on the campus where if you're a Middle Eastern student or you're a supporter of a Middle Eastern student or you support Hamish, you think it's okay to shove a Jewish kid or spit at him or yet call him names or call for the genocide.

And now they're going to think that they have allies on the far right.

And I think it's very incumbent on people on the conservative side to say, if you want to suggest that Churchill's a terrorist or you think that Russian prisoners died accidentally because of the sheer numbers of their prisoners or you think the Holocaust has been exaggerated.

Would you please show the documentation and the facts to say that?

And if you don't do that, then we know

what you are doing.

You're trying to spread rumor and lies for political purposes.

And I can't say that enough.

I know that, and I got a lot of criticism on that from people who said

there were two types.

Well, you did a good job, but you didn't talk about your hero Tucker.

That was from the left.

And then on the right and saying, what are you doing?

This is an election year.

Why are you attacking this guy on Tucker?

He's on our side.

I don't care what side he's on.

And

I think Trump has been very good on Israel.

He really has.

You look at the Abrams Accord, you look at the moving of the embassy.

You look at the Golan Heights question, the getting out of the Iran deal,

cutting off Hamas.

There's never been a president more pro-the Jewish state.

And,

but

Well, if I can, Victor, I can add one thing on this.

You know, in addition to the Constitution and the Declaration,

I have a prejudice that the most important document in our history is George Washington's letter to the Hebrew congregation of Newport in 1790, where he he talks about everyone shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him

pray.

yeah and it's it always starts with anti-semitism too all yeah yeah that's the one thing it's kind of like the canary in the mine the telltale sign once that you come out

and you start trafficking in the anti-semitic trope then you know where you where the country is if nobody stops it

and you can you can be you can say you're a

the most successful popular historian and everything, but if you're going to make that argument, and you cannot make that argument persuasive because there's no evidence vis-a-vis World War II, what this person was saying, then you better cite facts, documents, days

to support your controversial argument.

Well, if you're a historian that the greatest World War II historian hasn't heard of, I think you got a problemistic.

I know, I make fun of academia.

I can tell you that.

But when you go and go through a PhD in classical history and languages, this is the kind of classes you you get.

You take a class in the Athenian Empire from a scholar like Michael Jameson, and then you go and you're

21 years old and you give a presentation and you say, Diodorus says this, Thucydides says this, and he interrupts you and says, would you please give me an exegesis why

you would prefer this historian Diodorus who draws on the lost Ephorus vis-à-vis Thucydides?

Just tell me why he would be more persuasive and who, which historian is buttressed by epigraphic evidence and archaeological evidence.

That's the type of class you have.

Day after day after day, source material.

Where did the source come from?

Does it have a

repetition?

reputation for validity and accuracy?

Is it archaeological?

Is it epigraphal?

Is it literary?

Is it historical?

What's the manuscript tradition?

It just imbues you.

And so when you see somebody who kind of makes fun of all that, trappings of a stupid PhD and he's just, and he's blogging is where it is, it's,

there was a reason why we created these.

I know they've been perverted now by the left, but there was a reason originally why there was something called a PhD in history or classics.

There was an art to it.

And I.

I have the utmost admiration.

They were not interesting people all the time and they were not sympathetic to 21-year-olds.

But I had about 12 Europeans from Austria, from Germany, from Britain,

by far Europeans.

And I look back at it, and I was really lucky to have had them about language and grammar and syntax and Greek and Latin, French, and German, and sources for history.

Yeah, well, rigor matters.

It does, it does.

And we're getting to the point now where you can just get on,

you can get on the internet and say stuff, and you get a lot of clicks, you know what I mean?

And

I got to try that someday.

Hey, Victor,

we're way over.

We're way over.

Yeah, yeah.

But I want to thank you for all the

wisdom you shared today.

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Jumping off that building headfirst, yeah, yeah,

and uh, you know, I was thinking the men and women on flight 93 who started uh

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