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Well, Victor, I was wondering what you make of the slogans coming out of the camp DNC right now.

The latest one is the New way forward or we're not going back and all of the joy and vibes we're getting from the DNC.

You know, one thing we try to do on this podcast is not be descriptive, but try to be analytical.

So we're so the descriptive view is, well, it's kind of hokey.

It's

joy and vibe.

It's cool.

And they use that.

I don't know.

I don't understand why they want to use this communist

slogan forward.

You know, at the Hoover Institution, if you go in the archives and look at their posters, I did that for World War II and I had my assistant David Berkey did it too.

There's so many Stalinist, you know, the person puts his hand forward like a salute and he or he's waving people to follow him and it's forward.

That's a Marxist slogan.

So I don't, but the real question is why are they doing that?

Because it's an act of commission and omission.

So what I mean mean is they're having all these vague slogans, and that takes up airtime.

And they have all these speakers that you mentioned are angry.

Oprah thinks the world's not fair.

Michelle feels that she's been a victim of racism, and Donald Trump's hurt her.

Obama is so angry that he's made fun of the fallacies of Trump.

And then every speaker comes up and says, we're not going back.

We're not going back.

Going back to what?

I mean, they've been in control of 12 out of the last 16 years, and she's been an incumbent.

So what is all this about?

And it's about two things.

They do not want to talk about her as a person or politician, and they do not want to talk about the policy.

So they talk about everything else.

And everything else is just touchy-feely, hopey-changey, vibey-cooley, joyy.

That's what they want to talk about.

And

let's talk about two other things.

Donald Trump is a criminal, criminal criminal.

That should be embarrassing because

those five civil and criminal trials we know were completely bogus.

And we know that Joe Biden talked to Jack Smith in a way that he shouldn't have.

We know that he prejudged Donald Trump and said he was guilty, basically, and should be jailed.

We know that his third top person in the DOJ went to work for Alvin Bragg.

We know that Letita James is, what do you call him, Paramore, Nathan Wade?

He snuck into the White House and charged them for it.

Eight hours for the

four days.

So my point is they were all, we know that the Silicon Valley Ried Hoffman paid for Eugene Carroll's soup.

So it was all coordinated, so they should be embarrassed of that, but they're bragging on it.

So what they're doing is they're talking about hopy changing, touchy feely.

And then to the degree they get specific, it's on three issues.

It is Donald Trump is a criminal.

Donald Trump is a criminal.

Abortion, abortion, reproductive rights.

I don't know why they keep using that word.

It should be deproductive rights.

It's about terminating a life.

It's deproductive.

I mean, when you talk about reproductive rights,

No one is talking, you don't hear them about the joy of child raising.

Nobody says it's such a wonderful thing that we all in this we value.

They used to do that under Clinton.

They couldn't stop talking about the children.

We're doing it for the children.

We're going to put police officers on the street for the children.

And now

it's killing the fetus.

And

I mean that literally.

They have a balloon blown up in the parking lot of an IUD and then they are giving free abortions in the parking lot with a mobile hospital.

So they're glorifying deproductiveness.

This isn't a time when we're 3.0, 4.0 fertility.

This isn't the baby boomer of 1950s.

This is when

our population will drop by 50 million.

We're getting down to 1.6.

And all these private universities are starting to fold up.

They don't have anybody to go to them.

Partly it's their own fault.

Partly it's the demographics.

So they're going to talk about abortion.

And they're going to talk about Donald Trump the criminal.

And they're going to talk about not going backwards.

And I don't know what that means.

I really do not know.

I mean, that's sincere.

I'm not being rhetorical.

Does that mean they're not going back to the eight years of Obama?

Does it mean that Donald Trump, four years ago almost, was responsible for leaving Kamala with 1.2 inflation and they went up to 8.5?

And cumulative up to now, it's been 20% and 30% unstable?

So it's incoherent, but there is this reason.

So that's what what they're doing.

And the other thing is the sin of omission.

They're doing this because they cannot talk about A, her,

because she has been vice president for three and a half years.

And she is responsible.

She owns the border.

She owns the crime rate.

She owns the inflation rate.

She says she's always the last person in the room when Biden makes a decision.

She said that in particular about Afghanistan.

Greatest humiliation in our history.

She won't talk about Gaza, but she has said numerous times that she basically favors the Palestinian position over Israel, and she didn't even show up for Netanyahu's speech.

So she doesn't want to talk about that.

She doesn't want to talk about the things she's said.

She says, I'm a radical.

They should just have it.

I don't understand why.

They just should have a commercial.

No editorialization.

Meet the real Kamala.

And then the first one: I am a radical.

Just in her own words.

Next one.

I'm not for equality.

I'm for equity because we all start out with different.

I want to even it up on the back side, the outcome.

Make us equal.

I want to take your gun.

You mean you mandate buybacks by the government?

Yeah, of course.

Yeah.

Get rid of IC.

Just get rid of it.

Start over.

Against the Electoral College.

She wants to pack the court.

She wants to have a single payer.

And it's not that she wants this, that she said this in front of left-wing constituencies, so she always doubles down.

Yes, of course I'm a radical.

Of course, get rid of it.

She doesn't just say, I want to cancel patents.

Yeah, just snatch it.

I can do that.

I'm not afraid.

You just snatch it.

So they don't want to talk about that because no one supports that.

So they have to transform her.

It's like they have a magic wand and they have this has-been three and a half year vice president, has never run in a primary in her entire life, has a whole history of crackpot ideas and was the co-pilot in a disastrous plane flight of Joe Biden's in which he's destroyed the economy, he destroyed the border, he destroyed foreign policy.

And they don't want to talk about that.

The second thing is they can't look forward.

They keep saying forward, forward, forward.

Okay,

tell us your plan.

Tell us exactly how you're going to reduce the deficit.

Tell us how you're going to secure the border.

Because she says she's for that now.

Tell us how you're going to restore deterrence abroad.

Tell us what you're going to do with the defense budget.

Tell us what you're going to do with oil and gas and the Green New Deal.

Are you forward?

She can't do that.

You go on her website.

I was asking myself, go on the website today.

Trump has every single detail posted.

She has nothing.

Nothing.

She's not going to have anything.

And then it leaks out when she gets off script, I'm going to have price controls.

Okay, well, how are you going to, and we're going to stop price gouging.

So I guess what she's saying to us,

when Donald Trump

lowered inflation to 1.2,

there was no price gouging, right?

Yeah.

Because she says price gouging causes inflation.

And then they came in and all these guys with moustaches and black hats went into a room and said, ha ha ha,

Biden and Harris are here.

We're going to price gout.

Because they hated them.

And then the price went up.

Had nothing to do with a supply chain disruption that she compounded by printing $7 trillion

or pent-up consumer demand, dying to buy things and giving free staff.

And then the other weird thing about that was they're the party of the corporation.

They own Silicon Valley, they own Wall Street, they own Disney, they own Entertainment, they own Hall.

They're corporate to the core.

How do you think that Barack Obama has four homes?

He snoozed up to the corporation.

Who do you think Oprah is?

She talked about all the adversity she faced.

She's corporate to the core.

So

they don't want to give an

agenda, and every time it leaks out, price gouging, ugh, that was a dud.

And now today it's taxes on unrealized income.

And that's, I mean, it's easy to demagogue that because they obviously have, well, only for millionaires or only for stock.

Well, once you start doing that, then it's kind of like

it's kind of like a sales tax or a gas tax.

It just goes up and it includes everybody.

And that means that if you have a

401k,

let's say you only have to get into 401k.

Just say you have a tax portfolio, you wake up and your Apple stock went way up, but you're not going to sell it.

But you don't have any cash.

And now the government's going to come and charge you 25% of the profit you never have.

It could go down tomorrow.

So you pay the government and then you just wait and say, I'll get a refund, I guess, like your IRS if it goes down.

But it's like your property tax.

They readjust it.

in what they think it's worth.

And if you notice, in California, it always goes up.

And then when you have a terrible 2008, it doesn't go way down.

Your property is worth half, but that's the way government operates, because they keep spending and they can't afford to cut back.

So unrealized gains are going to be taxed, and then they're going to up the corporate tax from 15 to 25.

That's not even considering that

California and a lot of states have

corporate state taxes and they have corporate capital gains taxes, states and federal.

You start taxing all these people, and it just turns into sort of:

I'm just going to go in and

punch my time cord and come home.

I'm not going to take any risks because they're going to take it all.

And

we know this doesn't work because they've tried it in Europe, and even the Europeans and the Norwegians and the Swedes got rid of the

wealth tax.

And do you really believe that they're going to put income limits so that Barack Obama is sitting there with four $70 million worth of homes and mansions?

And when they go up, and I think he paid $12 million or $14 million for his Martha's Vineyard seaside estate, which I didn't understand why he bought it, since he's told everybody for eight years that the oceans would climb four feet

in elevation and his whole place would be threatened.

And he goes out and buys not only Martha's Vineyard right on the cliff, but he goes to Hawaii and builds a new place on the beach.

I'm thinking, Barack, you told us it would be washed away.

Why are you doing this?

So they're utterly cynical.

But do you really believe when those things come up in value, Barack's going to say,

well, and this is true, I just found out that my Martha's vineyard is up to 20, 25 million, so I made 10 million bucks.

I don't intend to sell it, but I have to come up with $2 million to pay for the government.

It's an unrealized game.

They're not going to talk about that.

And when you have

an agenda like Trump, he talks anywhere.

You know why he talks?

Not because he's more moral, but he likes people, that's true, and he's good at it.

But more importantly, his issues reflect popular opinion.

The border, they agree with him.

Crime, they agree with him.

Energy production, they agree with him.

Transgendered men and women's sports, they agree with him.

They agree that the abortion should be left to the states and that you should allow allowances for rape and incest and you you should not allow partial birth abortions and kill a fetus that's viable outside of the womb in the eighth or ninth month.

That's what everybody agrees on.

So

they can't express what they want to do to this country because nobody wants it.

And

they can't go after Trump on his issues because everybody wants it.

So in that huge abyss, that void, that hiatus, what do they do?

They talk about Donald Trump, Donald Trump is a felon, he's a felon, Donald Trump, abortion, reproductive, reproductive, reproductive, reproductive, and then hopey, changey, joy.

That's it.

It's the most inane.

It's like a little magician.

And they say, here we are

with

incumbent vice president for three and a half years that everybody wrote off as a total fool, full DEI appointment of Joe Biden's and his

Spiro Agnew insurance policy that couldn't form a sentence without getting into the doom loop of word solids, and then

was very far to the left and had the most left-wing voting record in Congress.

And then you take the little one, you go,

and now she is a fresh face that nobody saw.

She just came out of nowhere.

It's Kamala, Mama, Mamala.

We don't even know who she is.

But she's young, she's black, she's exciting.

She's not a radical.

She's a mainstream moderate.

I just heard it on TV that John Favreau, that speechwriter, says a moderate.

And that's what we're doing.

We're watching.

And if we vote for it, we deserve it.

Yeah.

And

they say she's going to take us out of dark places.

And I'm like, well, what are those dark places?

Joe Biden's last four years, I guess.

You know who the big loser is who's just collapsed?

Is Joe Biden?

I mean, just

60 days ago, he had

everybody in the blogs, New York Times, Washington Post, ABC, NPR, you name it.

Joe Biden is fit as a fiddle.

He outworks us.

Remember Kamala Harris?

I was in him.

He's exhausting.

He knows so much.

And then he was just kind of falling over, couldn't get off the stage in the right direction, falling on the steps.

Word freezes, got that get off my grass, old man's anger.

And they said he's he's so gentle.

You know, $27 million he'd leveraged from foreign government.

He couldn't do anything wrong.

He was like a,

I don't know, some kind of blow-up toy they blew up, and they couldn't.

And now they just punctured him.

He's nothing.

He's just a shell as an 81-year-old man.

And they have demonized him.

They have humiliated him.

They have used the 25th Amendment to threaten to get rid of him.

And Dr.

Jill is not Dr.

Jill anymore.

Everybody thought she's a bulldog.

Don't cross Joe.

She runs everything.

She appointed the head of this.

She's nothing.

She's just into nothing.

Everybody,

the king is dead.

Long live the king, Camilla.

He's gone.

The staff is joining Kamala.

The campaign people, the Obamas are not subtle.

They come out of the wood.

Hey,

we got rid of him.

He was a useful idiot for three years.

But

he couldn't even fill that empty role.

He was like a puppet that fell apart.

We pulled the strings.

He didn't have to do anything.

All he had to do was like that old

Star Wars

episode where the guy's John Gall, whatever his name is.

Star Trek Gill.

John Gill.

He was all pumped up with, I don't know, sedative.

And they just put words in his mouth.

He couldn't do that.

And now he's gone.

It's so weird.

He's got five and a half months on his tenure.

Yeah.

You know what gets me about it?

Is that they have such absolute contempt for the people that they can pull this over there.

I have a colleague, I won't mention his name, where I work, and he's just tweeted out, Camilla should not give an interview.

If it's in her interest, she should.

If it's not in her interest, she should not.

Don't be bullied.

Just stop it.

And I remember he wrote a tweet earlier.

It said,

everybody's got to get out and be transparent.

They've got to meet with people.

So they're shameless about it.

She's not going to meet with anybody.

And everybody knows what's going on.

The left knows what it's doing.

The right knows.

The people.

Everybody knows now that they took this person who was a far left DEI radical, incompetent, incoherent.

And they were abusing her and making fun of her.

And she was a dead-end cul-de-sac.

And then they got rid of Joe, and they were so exuberant.

that Pelosi said the other day, I thought they were going to have an open convention.

And then they said, nobody ran.

Well, they had 24 hours and she had 4,000 delegates.

And she helped in the coup.

So then they do this and everybody knows what they're doing.

And they're thinking, okay, we changed a cognitively challenged 81-year-old for a linguistically challenged ninkampu.

And we've got the same problem.

A,

go back to 2020 plan, put her in the basement, don't let her talk, no town halls, no interviews.

B, rely on 70% of the people not voting on Election Day.

That's coming up pretty soon, early voting.

And C, rebrand her as a moderate, a good old Camela from Berkeley.

And that's what they're going to do.

And everybody knows it.

And the question is, it's like a train going right at you.

You know where it's coming, you know what it's going to do.

Are you going to jump off the tracks or not?

Yeah.

As American people are going to jump off the tracks and not buy in, are just going to sit there and watch the Camela train hit them in the face and steamroll.

Yeah.

We'll see.

What they didn't count on was her vice presidential choice.

Blundered of the first order.

All her, I bet.

Oh, my God.

She got in the room with him and he started saying, you know, I'm an old white, stupid guy.

I don't like,

I don't have any taste.

I eat white tacos, and I'm just a steppin'-fetchin' white guy.

And I'm radical, man.

I let Minneapolis burn.

My wife liked to open the window and smell the

fresh scent of of burning Minneapolis.

And my daughter tipped off.

Hey, come on.

My daughter tipped off the National Guard.

Can you believe it?

You bailed people out, but she tipped off and said the National Guard's not going to come in and get protesters.

And she just got in throw with that.

Yeah, there's nothing that a radical, woke DEI person likes more than a step-and-fetch it like that.

Yeah, I mean, he just humiliates himself and he just talks about how bad white people are.

And he looks, you know, and

I guess, you know, if you look at the optics, 25% of the people who are doing the national anthem, the singing, the entertainment on the state are African-American, which is good.

But

he plays into that, you know, that I'm just a has-been, old white guy, I'm just an old white guy.

But he reminds me so much of Tom Arnold, you know, that Bozanne's husband, kind of a buffoonish,

herky, jerky, Adderall-fueled nut.

And he just goes in there with that kind of, he's a little bit too heavy and he has that tight suit.

And he just points, hey, hey, whoa, hey, this.

He jumps around.

And then he doesn't say anything.

And he just lies.

I mean, he's a hard left pro-China radical.

I'm thinking, what did he not lie about?

Well, he's sort of lied about his weird relationship with China.

He's lied that he was in combat.

He's lied that he was about his rank.

He's lied about weapons he took to war.

He's lied about why he retired when he did.

He's lied even about in vitro fertilization of his wife.

He's lied about everything.

Everything.

And he's,

and, you know, and

you can see what it was that Josh Shapiro is, this is probably his left wing,

but he's so smooth.

He's like Gavin Newsome.

He's oily and he's smooth.

And he's in a big key state and he can fake it a lot better that he's moderate.

And

he's got a much higher rating and a state that's much more important.

And you can know what she thought.

She got in there and she looked at him like, is he going to mention Israel?

Because I'm not going to stand for it.

No, she looked at him and said, is he going to look impressive and I'm going to look stupid next to him?

She picked the one guy that would make her look intelligent.

because he is a buffoon.

So that was a big gift to Trump.

Yes.

And Trump, you know, I was watching him today or listening to him when I was driving.

He's listening to somebody because he gave a rally and he had the women whose children were tragically murdered.

He was empathetic.

He was authentic.

He was genuine.

He was soft-spoken.

He was outraged at the type of...

palsies that led to these poor girls being raped and brutalized and murdered.

It was wonderful on his part.

And then he had a rally.

He jumped out away from the protective screen.

He went to help a woman who apparently fainted or something.

And then he talked, he said, I'm not supposed to talk about anything but issues, making

it.

But he's very good at it.

That's what's really weird.

He's very bad at calling people names.

I don't mean

the names are kind of funny, but his voice gets weird and he gets off track.

But he's really good when he stays on the issues because he does know them and he's been president and he adds little

reminiscence angles and he can talk.

He can debate.

He really can.

If he goes in there, he doesn't have to say you're an idiot.

And he can just be quiet and then just, sorry, you let in 10 million people.

And here's why.

This is what he was saying.

I had a wall.

She stopped it.

I had stop.

catch and release.

She brought it back.

I said you couldn't apply for refugee staff after you get here.

That's ridiculous.

She ended that.

I pressured Oberdar.

She didn't.

It was like staccato.

Yeah.

You can do it.

If he does that, he'll have a landslide.

I still think that.

He took his cameras to the border, and the place they took him to had materials that had been there since he was in office that had not been used to build a fence.

It was brilliant.

I know.

And all he has to do is get up three or four points, and she will come out and she will think, oh my God, I got to speak in

extemporaneously, impromptu.

I can't do it, but I got to think about it.

Oh, I can't do it.

Don't let me do it, please.

It'll just, I'll just have to.

That's tough.

The cackle will fall, and then the repetitive 500-word vocabulary.

So he, I noticed that there's a little bit of momentum.

I couldn't believe it, because I thought that with the Obama's, Clinton, the whole thing, that she would get a six or seven-point balance.

And maybe it's a delayed reaction.

But it wasn't in the Rasmussen poll.

He widened a lead today.

Yes, the Rasmuton poll is very encouraging at 49 to 46.

And then the betting, some of the betting sites that had, those are what really count because A, those people are not political.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

They just want money.

And they don't lose money for their ideology.

They're not like Kamala Harris that's willing to lose an election just because of ideology.

But they don't.

And so when they change, and Trump is three or four points down, and some of these betting sites, he's two points up.

Something's going on.

I don't quite understand what's going on, but there's a sense that of impending.

I think that's a lot of the nervousness at that convention, too.

I think

it's all fake, joy, happy, confident.

Ooh, I think they have a...

You get that from David Axelrod.

It is well attended, so they do have

over 30,000 people there.

It's a complete mess as far as the scheduling.

It's like how they run the country.

I mean, it's just, they can't manage time.

If somebody calls up, I'm Oprah.

I want to get on.

Okay, come in.

You can take wrong time, you know.

And the poor old white guys, Joe Biden, well, how about me?

I'm recognized.

Yeah, you can speak at midnight.

And Tim, well, I'm going to be the body.

You can speak at 10.30.

Opu got your spot.

You know, that kind of stuff.

That's kind of encouraging.

So something is going on.

I don't know what it is, but don't, I think it's smooth.

They're all excited,

but they will not talk about the issues.

They will not talk about her incumbency.

They will not talk about her crazy left-wing rantings and ravings the last 20 years.

And I wouldn't either if I were them.

And so you get hopie changy.

And the American people know what's going on.

It's just a question of...

They choose to be flattened by the train or they jump off the tracks.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, let's go ahead and go to a break and come back and talk a little bit about Alexis de Tolqueville.

Stay with us.

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Victor, so

Alexis de Tocqueville is a champion of American democracy of sorts.

I don't think he's an uncritical champion, and so I was wondering what you're going to tell us about him.

Well, you know,

you don't get the impression

in a lot of late Enlightenment thinkers that they liked the United States.

It's very rare in the 19th century, especially.

But you do with Topo.

And he visited the United States.

He was on an official mission to study some of the economic practices.

He was, what, born in 1805.

He died in 1859, he died of tuberculosis.

He was kind of writing, he was kind of like Alexander, I mean

he was kind of like Poe and other poets that had tuberculosis, or I meant to say Orwell.

And

they were writing in ill health, his whole life, we have it.

So he died at 53.

But he wrote a brilliant

short book on the old regime, the ancient regime and the revolution.

If you read that, it's really enlightening.

It's kind of like Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France.

I think it's even better.

And he tries to do a sociological and economic analyses that

the old regime that had kind of a paternalistic medieval feudal concern for peasants and the people that occupied or they had rent, even if they were serfs,

as the 18th century grew and the attention became on the aristocratic fashion, urbanism, class,

dandyism, they drifted away from their estates in the way that the medieval lord who went out and supervised the land and fought with them, got the army, you know.

They had nothing in contact with them.

So they had no idea of what was going on with the peasantry.

And

they became an obvious target that should be taken out.

That's what he was talking about.

And then he said that he blamed them because he thought that the excesses of the revolution could have been avoided, as it was in the United States.

No Americans went in to,

they didn't go in and try to kill women and children that were English or royalists, you know, butcher them.

And he was trying to explain why.

And then that came 20 years after

Democracy in America, which he wrote in 1833,

something like that, 1835, maybe.

Yeah, it was the 1830s.

He was 30.

And

he toured America, and he was very impressed

for one real reason.

He didn't know whether it was entirely attributable to all this land, but he felt that people in the United States, unlike serfdom in Europe, they had autonomy and they owned land and they were self-sufficient and therefore they were an outspoken, empowered middle class.

He called them middling.

He channels Aristotle's fourth book of the politics about the Mesoi.

I wrote about in the other Greeks and even quoted him, as I remember,

Toteville.

But my point is, he said, when you have a middle class like that, then they are not easily bamboozled by demagogues who say, ah, if you vote for me, I'll give you all this, because they don't need it.

And yet, when they're...

when they have their own rural culture or their familial culture, they're not impressed by the aristocracy who can be bribed them.

I'll give you this amount of money and, you know, look, I have a wig and I wear, you know,

stockings and all this.

They don't care.

And he, so when he toured the United States, he said, this is very valuable because there is an autonomous middle class that's emerging and they lack the dependency of the poor.

and they don't exercise the pernicious influence on government.

The wealthy do.

And then he made some really really startling observations that there was a difference between the South and the North.

And this was in 1830.

He was saying, beware, you southerners, 1833, whenever he was actually traveling before he was writing.

And he said, you people should look at Europe and the South, and they had slavery.

He said, how could you have slavery at a time that we understand that serfdom is destroying Europe?

And we're getting rid of it to save Europe.

But you in the South don't understand the effect of slavery upon the aristocracy.

And he really

had a great admiration for the founders, but he did not like the Virginia aristocracy.

This was antebellum, and he said they're wealthy, this isn't the wealthiest they ever were.

You're getting into Eli Whitney and the cotton gin and 1830s, 40s, 50s.

That would be, and he said in 1830,

these people are getting idle, they're affected, they're leisured, and they are not like the northern and mid the developing Midwest.

In those days, it would be eastern Ohio and stuff, who are doing their own work, and they understand what labor is.

And they get a sense of personal satisfaction from creating their own farm.

These people just have these slaves, and it's hurting them as much as the slaves, and it won't work.

So he, he, as he left America and he, in democracy in the America, there is a growing unease with the South, the coastal south.

He didn't go down the Mississippi and Georgia and all that.

And he was a greater admiration for New England and the mid-Atlantic states and the beginning of the frontier in the Northwest.

And that was very prescient because he said, you're not going to get rid of the Negro, he called it.

It's going to be there forever.

You don't think you're going to ship them back to Africa.

They're not.

They are not African.

They are very American.

They speak English.

They are culturated for a century or more in America.

And the only solution is to empower them as happens in the North.

He wasn't for racial mixing as most people weren't, but he was for equality.

The other thing that's very controversial, no, shut up, is throughout

he is very Aristotelian and even Platonic, and they do agree in certain areas, and one of them is a complete distrust for demagoguer or any type of government that is 51% on any given day, i.e.

he was very well read in the classics, Voltaire, Rousseau, and he didn't agree with Rousseau especially, but

he had read deeply about in Xenophon and Thucydides, probably through a translation in the case of Thucydides,

of what Athenians had done, killed the Melians, and Xenophon killed Socrates, that volatility.

So he really wasn't in favor of a republic and he really distrusted it.

And, you know, he was born in 1805.

So his grandparents and parents were aristocrats, and they almost got guillotined.

If the Jacobins had been there another year, they would have been all guillotined.

So he despised, he knew why the revolution took place.

He understood it had to take place, but he despised the way it got extreme very quickly.

And that's another reason why he really admired the United States Revolution.

And

he was an aristocrat kind of a snob.

He said the tragedy of the ancient regime is that they brought a,

and he saw that in America where the people he thought were aristocrats, they brought a certain comportment or behavior.

or civility that the unwashed on the frontier or the autonomous, they needed to emulate.

You shouldn't destroy the aristocrats.

I really read him when I was, I think, a second year in college.

I remember I'd grown up in this farm and then I went to Stanford.

And I went to school with all these kids from prep school that had years of Latin and Greek and the professors were European.

And their natural inclination would be to rebel, and I did.

And they said, Victor, we're taking a car load to the San Francisco Symphony.

Would you like to come?

No, I don't want to go there.

I'm going to go see a Clin Eastwood movie.

You know what I mean?

That was my attitude.

And

you pastor reading French, but you don't speak the language.

That's the cargo of an educated intellectual.

We expect you to, we're not going to require it.

We suggest you go to France for a year, that kind of stuff.

And I really rebel.

But there was something to that is what I'm saying.

They brought kind of a,

you know, and I remember I still make fun of this term sober and judicious,

but I would be in class and I would,

you know, if some guy was really pompous, and everybody was pompous, I would kind of growl, oh my God, spare me.

Or, you know,

there would be a young professor with a nasal voice.

And when I was a hobby,

I went to Christ College and all that stuff.

And then I had a great professor, Mark Edwards.

I really liked him.

And he was English, but he was in the lower classes.

But he liked me.

I don't know why he liked me.

He had no reason to.

But he would come up and say, Victor, Victor, that is not sober and judicious on your part.

You're not a sober and judicious person.

You have to learn to be sober and judicious.

I said, that means missy-why, I said, Professor Edwards, I'm not going to be wishy-washy.

You don't have to worry about being wishy-washy.

You're very blunt, but you're crude.

And you're unwashed, and you need to be sober and judicious.

So I'd always say to everybody in class,

I object to that report.

It's not enough sobriety and judiciousness.

But my point is that he was really valuing that, and there is something to be valued by the Bush's types of behavior and the old aristocratic Romney Creed.

I feel more comfortable, to tell you the truth, with despised populace,

that everybody,

my people are the deplorables, but I can understand that there are

certain rules of diction and behavior and you don't speak about this thing and they're valuable for civilization.

And he understood that totally well.

The other thing he's most infamous for is, and there's been argument, every time you read Wikipedia or you read the Encyclopedia or you read the Oxford History of Political Science, whatever it is, they get to this problem of how you translate some of the things he said about equality and equity

or whether you, some translators tried to explain what he said by adding words that aren't in the French.

He basically came up with a series of conclusions, and I don't want to, I don't not translate them literally, but they were basically along this line, that most people

would

prefer to be equal and poor, than all better off and some people more equal.

And he expanded that into the political, most people

would be

preferable to have no freedom and equal than to have complete freedom.

and have people not equal.

And he understood that.

And watching this convention,

when that came up and some of the commentators said that Kamala Harris said that she was going to have wage and then later price controls on

companies that don't have gender equity.

And I said on our earlier podcast, nobody would like that.

And that's me speaking.

But I was curious because in 19, as I said earlier,

I want to get this right, August of 1971, Nixon did do that.

Hooverite, who wasn't at Hoover then, but George Schultz, who was very conservative, went along with her.

He even drafted it.

And it lasted, I don't know, 90 days or something.

It was a complete disaster.

But the point I'm making, I went back to see if anybody liked that.

You know what I found out?

A Gallup poll, after that was announced, 75% of people liked it.

Because it said, you don't have to pay anymore.

And the next thought,

yes, but you will pay a lot more because it's going to discourage production and it's going to spike demand.

And they thought, I don't care.

That's somebody else's.

It's that immediate gratification that Toteville warned about.

That most people, human nature, given what it is, the power of envy and jealousy over people that have more than you outweighs your commitment to liberty, freedom, and almost every human value.

And, you know, Keesy had said that 2,700 years ago in the Works and Days,

he has a bilateral notion of envy.

Actually, it's an antithetical.

He has the word Thonos,

Thonos,

and then he has the word eros, strife,

and he has a whole typology of envy.

What I'm getting at is there is a good envy and a bad envy.

We would call the good envy emulation, and the bad envy is destruction.

So that old platitude about America, why it worked, is we had the good Hesiotic envy.

We're driving down.

I was driving the other night to eat and I saw a brand new Lincoln Navigator.

And it was really impressive and I wanted to go over and look at it.

It made me want to buy it.

And then I thought, who bought that?

It's kind of neat.

I looked in there for it.

It has everything in it.

It was like a tank.

But i didn't have that my first impulse as an american was if you if the owner had come out i would have walked over to him said where'd you get it how much you pay for it do you like it it wouldn't be

how'd you get that but if the old platitude if you were a brit in the class system and a guy pulled up in a beautiful bentley and he was in the restaurant like i saw and you'd look around then you go up and kick it

he must have cheated why don't i have a bentley I'm going to break the window.

And that's the bad envy.

And that's what Heasy had said in the works and days, that the good envy, you look at your neighbor's wagon or his farm, and you think, I can do better than that.

And I've got to find out how he did it.

I want to be just like him or even better.

And that good competition is what capitalism.

And the bad envy is...

I'm going to go sabotage as well.

And that's the Russian envy that communism inculcated.

Proterily, it always was fighting, trying to sabotage anybody who had more than somebody else.

That's the Democratic Party.

That was what I heard all night long.

Elizabeth Warren was talking about it, the Obamas,

even if they have everything.

Remember when

Michelle said, she's talking about her father, one thing my father taught me is that you don't ever try to get more than you need.

Remember that?

You don't go after what you don't need.

And I'm thinking, you mean you had a six-bedroom, 4,000-square-foot Chicago mansion.

So then you needed 40 acres and 10,000 square feet at Martha Vineyard, and then you wanted to keep your $9 million Caloroma mansion,

and then you needed your brand new Hawaii mansion.

Did you need all of those?

If you didn't, you should have thought, you told all of us to follow your father's wisdom.

So you don't need those, Michelle.

Get rid of them.

You didn't need that.

How much did her necklace cost in her outfit?

I thought

she was $4,000 or $5,000?

Yeah, more than that.

More than people spend on their car all year.

And she had that, and she was lecturing that.

And she's full of the bad envy.

She really is.

And that's too bad.

Yeah, it is.

Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and we'll come back to talk a little bit about Israel and then the speech by speech.

Yeah.

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So, Victor, I was wondering what your thoughts were on Kamala Harris's speech.

I listened to it, and there was one good thing about it.

What?

It was compared to the rants of the Obamas and all these long speeches, it was 48 minutes?

37 and a half minutes.

37 and a half minutes.

Okay.

Okay.

I thought that was good.

Yeah.

But

I did not know, and did you listeners know

that she has not been president, vice president for three and a half years.

She's a fresh face.

She came out of nowhere.

And she said forward.

I don't think she has any idea that that's in Das Kapital and the forward advance of history and the pro-terrorate forward.

Yeah.

It's not a good word to use.

I didn't know that she has always been, according to her denied, a pro-Israel hawk.

I know.

Did you hear that?

Yes, a pro-defense budget hawk.

But she did want to be sure to say that she always wants the Palestinians to have the right to dignity.

But they, I warned everybody that they would not be acting up.

She got to them, and somehow, I don't know what the deal was, but there was a quid pro quo.

And they, if that had been anybody else, that would have been a riot.

Yeah.

But they handled that.

Go back again, people, to the Molly Ball Time magazine 2021.

She outlined what they do.

And, you know, RFK and Jill Stein today went back and said the Democratic Party is capable of anything.

They're scary.

And Jill Stein, the socialist, said they tried to infiltrate her campaign, put spies on her, just what he did, RK.

So anyway, I didn't know she, I heard tonight she was a pro-defense hawk.

I didn't know she was a crime fighter.

And I thought Tim Waltz got married or had an anniversary in China.

He bows and all this stuff, and he's been there 30 times.

And she's a China hawk.

Did you know she's an Iran hawk?

And we've never seen this before.

The most shameless transmogrification, I mean, we've never heard that she's a hawk on all these things.

On Iran, against that?

Yes,

she said that she's going to get tough with Iran.

Oh, I thought that when she and Biden came in, everybody, are you listening?

Maybe I've got amnesia.

I'm sorry.

But I thought that she tried to restart the Iran deal.

I thought that she lifted sanctions on oil.

I thought that she said the Houthis are no longer terrorist.

I thought that she gave gave money back to Hamas.

I didn't know that she was all this time pressuring Iran and it's a hawk, but apparently tonight she said she was.

The border thing is kind of shameless though when she said she was a border hawk.

This is from the co-architect of a destroyed border that led in 10 million illegal aliens and they've simply destroyed the budgets of every big city in the United States.

And they're complicit in 100,000 deaths with fentanyl, not to mention these rapes and horrific murders.

And she was against it all.

I thought

that she said, just do away with ice.

Start from scratch.

I thought she said, get rid of the detention centers for illegal aliens.

Get rid of them.

I thought she said, we're not supposed to say Merry Christmas at all anymore, because how dare you say Merry Christmas when poor illegal alien children can't have the same sort of Christmas.

So I thought all that, but apparently I was mistaken.

And then I guess she thinks we're all stupid.

Maybe we are, because

I guess she thought

we all thought, wow,

I never knew she said she said these things before.

I never knew she was supporting these things.

And

maybe, I guess I'm wrong, but why didn't she say or do these things when she was the second most powerful person in the United States over the last

almost four years.

And since she's vice president now, and she's got six, almost six months, I expected after hearing all that tonight, she's taken the red eye to Washington and she's going to wake Joe Biden up and she said, we're going to get tough on Iran.

We're going to bombargo.

We're going to get that defense budget back up.

We're going to start working with racketeering charges on these criminals.

We're going to stop this shoplifting and looting.

We're going to get that wall finished.

We got six months.

We can finish that wall.

We're going to get this,

we're going to stop catch and release.

You know what we're going to do?

We're just going to take the Trump blueprint and enact it.

And the weird thing was, though, the weirdest,

maybe not the weirdest, the second most weirdest.

She said that Trump was responsible for Putin going into Ukraine.

Yes.

And I'm thinking, we've had 20 years from 2004 to 24,

four administrations, George W.

Bush, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Harrison.

They have one thing in common.

In every one of those three administrations, Putin invaded a foreign country.

But from 2017 to 2020, he didn't.

And that was the only time when Trump was in office.

And she's blaming Trump.

And then I thought, well,

she's going to say that Donald Trump canceled javelins and we approved the javelin.

No, she couldn't because that was just the opposite.

She stopped javelins and Trump approved them.

And when Donald Trump came into office, he delayed all, he put on hold all their weapons.

No, that was Biden and you when you came into office.

And Donald Trump said he wouldn't react if they invaded Ukraine, if it was a minor invade.

No, that was your thing.

And Donald Trump said that if they hack, if they keep hacking, they've got to stop hacking hospitals at least.

No, that was you.

And Donald Trump, he was in.

I didn't know all that.

So that's what she was telling.

You know, another thing,

I am so tired.

I should say, Hillary, I'm so tired.

I've been so worked out.

I'm so tired of this narcissistic, hypocritical

story.

I said to myself, she's going to say the word journey.

And then I thought, I bet she says story too.

And she's, I got to tell you about my journey and story.

I don't want to hear about your story.

I have a story.

All the thousands of people, all of us have stories.

We have journeys.

We all had good parents.

Why does everybody have to get up there and give the sappy, narcissistic, my journey?

I think I had a good journey, but I don't think I'm any much different than the people who are living, that are listening and living right now.

I think all of you are listening.

You have journeys and stories that are as good or better than mine.

I think I had the best parents in the world.

I think you do too.

You think that too.

So I don't want to hear all that.

And about all of the...

She was a child of two PhDs, and you think she grew up in the Oakland ghetto.

And

then that she's just outlied, lied, you know, that Donald Trump didn't have anything to do with Project 2025.

He didn't even read it.

It's a thousand pages.

Maybe you could say that J.D.

Vance knew something about it.

And, you know, it's not like

a satanic Bible.

I looked at it.

It's got a lot of good stuff in it.

It's got some stuff I disagree.

But he didn't.

And then the worst was, this is the worst, when she said that Donald Trump sent an, quote, armed mob.

They arrested over 400 people.

They did not find one person in the Capitol that had a firearm.

Nobody in the Trump riot group, if that's what she's implying, shot anybody or used violence against anyone.

Not one.

And Officer Sicknick did not die by violence.

He died of natural causes the next day.

There was only one person who was shot.

She was unarmed, and she went through, she committed the misdemeanor of going through a broken window.

And Officer Bird shot her, and then that was covered up.

And he got a promotion later for it.

So that was just a total lie.

And then she said

he egged them on.

He was naive or reckless and not stopping them, but he didn't say go over there and storm the Capitol.

He said just the opposite.

He said, assemble patriotically and peacefully.

You can say that maybe that was just a throw-off line, but that's what he said.

He didn't go out and say what she said he said.

And then, you know what, the weirdest thing is, she says,

and then he egged them on, and he's going to get them out of it.

He promises to get them out and bail them out and, you know, jail.

And I'm thinking, wait a minute.

And Minneapolis went up and smoked at the very May of 2020 when Governor Walsh had his window open so they could smell the fumes.

And the daughter, as I said earlier, was

trying to tip off the riders.

She went online

Twitter, Minnesota Freedom Group, and she said, everybody help bail these people out.

They were violent offenders.

And she got them out of jail.

She raised bail.

And then she goes and says that Trump wants to let out people.

And then she said he egged them on.

This is a woman I haven't memorized in my head.

She said of the DC rioters that had turned violent.

Yes, fact checkers, it did turn violent when she said this in August.

They're not going to stop.

And everyone, beware.

They're not going to stop.

They're not going to stop before Election Day in November.

And they are not going to stop after Election Day.

And everybody should take note.

And they should not stop.

Beware.

And she said, this is a movement.

Donald Trump said that.

And they did a hell of a lot more damage than the people at the Capitol.

So she was inciting a riot.

That's what she was.

And then she's lecturing it.

And then I guess there was the sin of omission.

Over the last three or four days, I've been watching various news outlets.

And sometimes she admits she says it, or her handlers say there's nothing wrong with it.

Sometimes they deny it.

But I thought she was going to say, if you elect Kamala Harris,

I promise you I will snatch patents from drug companies.

If they don't listen to what, I'll just snatch their patents, cancel them.

And you know what?

I'm going to force buyback.

You mean mandatory?

Kamala?

Yes, mandatory.

Mandatory confiscation of semi-automatic weapons.

I thought she was against fracking.

Just get rid of fracking.

I thought she she said that we should abolish ICE.

I thought that she said she was for single-payer, government-only outlaw private health insurance.

I thought she said she has to raise corporate tax rates.

I thought she wants a wealth tax.

She said that.

They want a tax on honor and gains.

She didn't say that tonight.

She said that she agreed with Elizabeth Warren, Durham, that they want, and Joe Biden.

It was her administration that want to pack the court, basically.

You know what I mean?

Change the court, make retirements, and all that stuff.

What happened to those vibrant advocacies?

I don't know.

So, again,

the person that was on tonight is basically saying this.

I have been vice president for three and a half years.

I went along with the policies or I had a hand, last person in the room, she bragged, when he made a decision, and given his debility and dementia, then she had an exaggerated role.

I thought

that she would go on and say this.

I have been vice president for three and a half years,

and I have six more months in my term, and I am going to give you more

than we've given.

So I promise you, I'm going to go from 10 to 12 million people.

I can get that inflation rate cumulative.

I've only got to 20%.

I'll get it it up to 30%.

I promise you.

And if you thought Afghanistan was a starter, I can do the same thing elsewhere.

That was one of our proudest moments, what we did in Afghanistan.

And I will do it again.

And

if I see a protest, I'm going to go out right now to those protesters, and I'm going to say, this should not stop.

You're a movement.

This should go on till election day.

And then I'm going to go out and I'm going to say, there were some people arrested here, and I want all of you to donate to Bail Mount.

I thought she was going to say that and then we'd say, okay, that's a dire contrast.

You know what she did, basically?

Her speechwriters just said,

I want the 10 issues that are the most important in the polls.

Go get me that.

Second, I want the polls on all 10 of them.

And then she read them.

And then she said, I want the position of Donald Trump on all those 10 issues.

Yes.

And with the exception of abortion, she said,

order, crime, economy, defense budget, foreign policy, Israel,

radical Islamic countries like Iran, they all poll against us.

They're against us on every issue.

So I want to flip tonight, and I want to endorse every one of those positions that Donald Trump.

endorsed.

And then I want to hide my intellectual theft

by saying that he's an egotistical, narcissistic, tyrant, dictator, blah, blah, blah.

And then when I'm all done, I want to say I want to bring back unity and brotherhood and kindness.

That's what she did.

I was kind of disappointed in the fox.

You know what I mean?

Britt Yume, I really like him, and he's really astute, but he said this was a greatly, great, delivered speech, and it was short.

He was right about that, but he could have just said

two seconds of what I just said.

I mean, I'm not that smart, and I listened to it.

Did Did you think you agreed?

You listened to it.

No, I was on the whole issue of freedom and unity.

I thought, this is the party of big government and identity politics.

Who's going to be fooled by that?

This is the party that wants to tell a parent you have no right to know what your child is doing when they transition.

This is the party in Minnesota that, you know, that sent the National Guard on the George Floyd and said,

line them up, shoot them with the paintball.

And this is is the party that had that snitch line.

This is the party when I went to Stanford University that could trace your ping on your cell phone and then ascertain your vaccination status.

This is the party, if you had COVID, they would trace everybody you got in contact with.

And all of those things, she just went through all Donald Trump's cases as though they were legitimate, but they're just evidence of this big government weaponizing government.

And she should be ashamed of herself on that.

The other thing that I didn't, I know they understand that this one issue polls well, Roe versus Wade,

but of all the 10 candidates that were in the Republican primary, Trump was the most liberal.

Remember, Mike Pence got really angry, and he used that against Trump, that he was a sellout on right to life, because Trump had two positions on abortion.

Leave it up to the states, because that's what the Supreme Court ruled and that's the law of the land.

Number two, no federal ban on abortion.

And number three,

he supported, and I don't know how that would be supporting, I guess he would favor states and he was trying to use the bully pulpit to do two things.

To allow women to have abortion who had been a victim of incest or rape.

and not to allow women to abort a fetus in the last eight or I guess six weeks or during the partial birth process.

That's all he said.

And that was the most left-wing, that was more left-wing than DeSantis, than any of them, maybe not Nikki Haley, but they were right together on that.

So my point is if they're going to get him on that and say that he wants to

all they did was take the abortion thing in that

Project 2025 and

Trump's never even read it and then say that's his position.

So

the other thing is this obsession.

I can understand that you don't want to have a law against abortion.

If it's, as I said, if it's not incest and it's done within the first eight weeks, that's only your.

I don't know.

I'm personally against it, but I'm not a woman.

I'm not going to tell a woman that.

Okay.

But

that's one thing.

But to glorify abortion and act like it's a holy grail and to have abortions going on as a demonstration of your support during the convention and to have these blown-up abortion type floats and then to just say abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion, and then to call it reproductive when it's deproductive and it's basically planned to have fewer lives.

I don't understand that infatuation with it.

I mean, that wasn't their policy before.

Bill Clinton was

legal and rare, legal and rare, legal and rare.

And when you heard him speak in 92 and 96, I went back the other day and looked at the speech, the transcript.

Everybody should go look at it.

It was pretty much Donald Trump.

What is it about illegal immigration you don't get?

It's illegal.

And abortion, it's unfortunately we have, it should be legal, but it's got to be rare.

And that's not today.

It's not Clint today.

And by the way, he was a tragic figure.

He was just

Pindar, the Greek lyric poet had, he was the shadow of a man.

And that's what he was.

Skia Anthropu.

That's what he was.

He was less than a shadow.

He was just, his voice was cracking.

He looked frail.

You can see, as I said earlier, why Dorian Gray wrote, I mean, Oscar Wilde wrote Dorian Gray, because that's who he is.

All the sins of

his

past or in his face.

Of his rose years or his youthful exuberance or his 40s, 50s

midlife crisis are all printed on his face.

They are.

So it was.

It was strange.

It was strange, and there's something, as I said, going on,

and that is...

Two of the betting sites have Trump up.

Rasmussen has Trump up by three.

He's up in seven of the nine points.

And I think there's good reason, and even Nate Silver has warned people about the methodology of polling.

And if you look at the polling at this time in 2016 and 2020 versus what the actual result was,

Trump was up in 2016, I think, four higher than he was than they said he was now, which was pretty much steady to November, and two or three more.

So

I think that when he's up by three points in a poll or two points in some polls,

that it's underestimated, but that underestimation is canceled out by irregularities in mail-in-valley.

That's going to give them an advantage of 2%.

So anyway, what I'm getting at, I don't quite see why she's not ahead by 10, given the media is all in the tank and everybody's screaming and yelling, and she's completely disowned her radical past.

She's completely...

And the only answer answer I can get is two answers.

One, it's so shameless to suggest that she's not vice president and she had nothing to do with this unpopular president because he's polling about 45%,

55% negative.

And that's up.

And it'll go back down to where he was.

It's just a sympathy vote.

But he's usually 40% approval.

And she was less than that.

So somebody who was approval rating was 40% because of the record.

There must be people out there, independent voters, are saying, I can't take this.

I know who she is.

She was vice president.

She's vice president now.

She has six more months until January 20 of next year.

And I just don't believe she's a fresh face.

I don't believe it.

And then there's people who are saying she's flipped on everything.

I don't believe any of that.

If she's president, she will appease Iran.

I know she will.

She'll be pro-Hamas.

She will sell Israel down the river.

I know that.

She had the most left-wing voting record in the Senate.

She will ban fracking.

She will have a wealth tax.

She will have a tax on realized capital gains.

I know that.

She will try to

go super hard on Obamacare as the only medical plan that you can get.

She's already talked about

a national voter rights bill that they're going to pass, And

that will ban the states from having IDs.

So

I hope everybody knows what she's doing.

And I think they do because I know our listeners do.

I hope that you all talk to people.

They've got a lot of money and they're very shameless and they're very slick and they've got all the institutions on their side.

I know.

And the only thing that's stopping them is the people.

And the people who watch that, still 51% of the people said, you know what?

She's an abject liar.

She's just lying out of her teeth.

I'm not stupid.

I know her record.

She just wasn't a...

She's not just for these left-wing positions.

She's emphatically for them because she got revved up by left-wing crowds her whole life.

Yes, I'm for fracking.

Yeah, I'm a radical.

I'm woke.

Everybody should be woke.

It was that type of exuberance in these left-wing Marxist positions that...

that are there.

And now it's just incumbent upon everybody to get informed and inform about her, tell the real story.

And Trump's got to.

Somebody wrote me a note today and said, Victor, Victor, you're all worried about the ads.

You don't live in Pennsylvania or Arizona.

They're on all the time.

I hope you listeners who are out there

can relieve my worries and say, Victor, Victor, Victor, don't worry.

I live in North Carolina.

I'm in Michigan.

You should see these brilliant Lee Atwater ads.

They're quoting her chapter and verse, making her look ridiculous.

It's just, it's, and if that's true, I apologize.

Yeah, no, no, there's no apology because it is kind of worrisome.

I think that's what Britt Hume meant.

She delivered it, but once you go in to analyze it, anybody who knows

knows what you know.

But a lot of people just don't know it, so the delivery went off.

But

there's so much lying.

I watched it just for a minute

the commentary from Fox people.

You know what was really strange watching them?

There was Brett Baer.

You know who was really...

She was very quiet for years.

And when Trump came on the scene, she had an initial.

You could tell she was uneasy with him.

But she is really conservative, and she's really to the point.

Both of them, there are two people were.

And it was Dana Perino.

And she would, when they asked her about the speech, she really pointed out almost immediately all of the hypocritical statements.

And then Martha McCallan did the same thing.

I was on Martha's show a couple of times, and I thought that she was, you know, very anti-Trump.

She's not.

And Dana Perino has really developed into a very hard, well-spoken conservative.

She has.

She's in Megan Kelly's territory, highly informed, highly conservative, no BS.

I was really impressed with her.

And she really, I mean,

Britt,

Yume, and Brett Bear,

I was surprised that they have a job as professionals, not to, you know, their job is to analyze the speech without bias, but they were a little overwhelmed by all of the shouting and screaming.

But Edana Perino and Martha McAllen weren't, they were just looking at what she actually said,

and they were kind of shocked.

Yeah.

Because, you know, they said she didn't really talk about the economy.

Most of the positions she said

were not.

what she has voted for.

And they kind of anticipated Trump.

You You wouldn't know that she's named Trump, but she's the second most powerful person in the United States right now.

So I was really impressed with them.

Nice.

Well, Victor, we are at the end of our podcast.

And I know that we didn't get to

talk about Israel, but I'm sure that you will talk about Israel with Jack.

So come back for future episodes with Jack on Tuesday and Thursday.

And Victor and I do the news roundup on Friday and the Saturday special edition.

So thanks everybody for listening.

We hope you're well.

Thank you everybody.

This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis Hansen and we're signing off.

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