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We are recording on Friday, the 28th of June, in the aftermath of the colossal debate,

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And I do want to have one little question about the debate towards the end of this particular podcast, Victor, which will be up on July 2nd.

But we've got a couple of Supreme Court decisions that have come down today on the 28th.

And we've got some laptop stories too to get your opinions on.

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Victor,

I'm a little agog from yesterday.

You'll have to, and all the reaction and all the crying and tears and machinations of our friends on the left.

But

let's start off, Victor, with a machination, an old one, but with a new little angle on it.

And this has to do with the Hunter Biden laptop and two things that have come out.

One is that because of some House Republican

committee hearings, it's been discovered that of the 51 signers of this famous national security letter, that's a couple of the members of signers of that letter were on the federal payroll.

They were CIA operatives.

And then we have, Victor, post

this coming out, our old friends John Brennan and others who are repeating that old claim.

Well, we didn't say it definitely was Russian disinformation.

We said it could have been and tried to imply that this was this obvious political operation was really what, some low-rates scholarly questioning?

It's pretty pathetic.

Anyway, Victor, the laptop is back in the news.

Your thoughts on these recent events.

Well,

Trump brought it up, and he did it in a good way.

He reminded Joe Joe Biden that

on the eve of their debate in 2020, that was an October surprise where they launched that laptop, supposedly

the laptop narrative, I should say.

Remember that the laptop had been in the possession of the FBI since 2019.

So the point I'm making is

The FBI knew it was authentic and the incriminating information about the Biden crime syndicate was there and they all have contacts with the CIA and intelligence authorities.

So they all knew it was authentic and yet remember that this current Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, called Mike Morrow,

at one time the acting, deputy CIA and one time acting for a bit, I think, and he wounded up on Blinken's request, 51, including himself, I think made 51 intelligence authorities.

And they were all passed off Jack as retired.

So they were disinterested.

And they said that this had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation.

And they accentuated that, but they had this little weasel word, all the hallmarks, because they didn't want to be perjured or lie, because they knew that it wasn't Russian disinformation, but they had that little escape clause.

So then that, according to one conservative pollster, post facto the election, they said that that made a difference.

The fact that Joe Biden was able to go on national TV, look the Americans in the face and point to Trump and said, he's lying again.

This is Russian disinformation, 51.

So that was all cooked up.

And last night, that came up again, and Donald Trump

said, Last time you lied, it was Russian, just like Russian collusion.

And he said that in association with Biden tried the same, same, I guess we call it a June surprise, where he said 16 Nobel laureates.

Notice how he always does that.

He always appeals to the argument to authorities.

But Joe, this is not 1970 or 80.

We have no confidence in any of these people.

They've all been weaponized.

The Pentagon's been weaponized, the DOJ, the CIA, the FBI, they're all discredited.

It's like saying, well,

Secretary Mayorkis at Homeland Security has assured us the border is secure.

Nobody believes you anymore.

So when he said that these 16 Nobel Prize winners

said that Donald Trump's policies would cause inflation and catastrophe, it took about a nanosecond for people to point out, A,

they are all,

not all, but the majority of them are donors to the Biden campaign or Biden himself.

And B, they were the same cast of clowns that last time told us that the Build Back Better and Inflation Reduction Act would lower inflation.

In fact, they were wrong, but not just wrong.

The opposite of what they said occurred.

And so

that was sort of a way of batting that down.

I wish Trump, and I'm very reluctant to say this because it's sort of after something's over, it's easy to say he should have said that, but you're not, you yourself are not in the cauldron of that hour and a half.

But if Trump, I think it would have been effective to say to Donna Dana Bash, one of the moderators, you know,

I want to give everybody a chance to apologize.

Joe, you don't want to apologize for lying to the American people.

Does any of the 51 authorities want to apologize?

None have.

Miss Bash, does your husband, he was a signee and said that I was basically lying.

Does he want to apologize?

And see what that would have done.

But

I don't know what to say.

It's one of these things.

It should be one of the stories of the year or the century that are, and then as people have pointed out, they weren't even retired.

They were on the CIA payroll as independent contractors, a number of them.

Four of them, yeah.

Yeah, so it was just bad

all the way around.

Yeah, Victor, and again,

I'm looking at today's

New York Post, and it's funny how John Brennan and Clapper, two of your

favorite people,

are kind of pointing the finger.

The headline says, Joe lied, not us.

Poland spies.

These guys are so

pathetic and gutless.

But anyway, Victor.

It reminds me, you know,

it had that murder in the cathedral about Thomas Beckett when...

Henry says, won't somebody rid me of this menace?

And then they take that as

a directive to go kill him and it's the same thing

it's not quite russian

yeah this is it's we didn't say it was russian disinformation we said it had the hallmarks but they didn't really tell us what the hallmarks were because there were none

and so

renon and clapper are the two most disgraced intelligence uh authorities of our lifetime they've completely destroyed their reputations they've both lied under oath they've uh to the Congress, both of them have, and they were rewarded by MSNBC and CNN

and analyst positions in which Clapper went on to say that the president of the United States was a Russian asset on no evidence.

They should just go back where they came from and just, you know,

leave us alone.

We're sick of them.

We're tired of them.

I believe the king said, will no one rid me of this troublesome priest, something

to that effect, and created a saint or martyr in the process.

Victor, three important cases were handed down by the Supreme Court today, all of them worthy, one at a time, of your comment and thought.

And

let's start off with the court's

January 6th, the ruling, and we'll get to that right after these important messages.

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So, Victor,

our old friend Julie Kelly, who has been

on top of the reporting on the January 6th prosecutions,

more so than anyone.

She's done

heroic work and the kind of work that if the Pulitzer Prize was

a real thing,

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She wrote today,

this is her

post on X slash Twitter, in a massive victory for J6 political prisoners and an unprecedented defeat for the corrupt Biden, Garland, Monaco, Graves, DOJ,

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of the law to punish those who protested Biden's election and to criminalize political dissent.

Victor,

your thoughts on this?

I hope they sue.

I hope they sue.

That came up in the debate when, remember, Joe Biden was told, prepped,

advised to get under Trump's skin and make him act as if he were in the first debate of 2020.

And so that explains

the false accusations that Biden leveled.

And they'd all been refuted by fact-checkers.

I mean, the suckers thing,

that was only John Kelly's recollection.

Nobody else said that.

And then he went into

the other

Charlottesville, you know, good people on both sides and just left out.

I'm not talking about the white supremacists, of course.

And even Snopes, an ultra-left fact-secker, had repudiated that.

Trump batted that.

that down.

But then he got on to January 6,

and Trump

said that they had a perfect right to protest.

He pointed out that he had said to assemble peacefully and patriotically.

I don't think there should have been a protest, but they have a right to protest.

And the Capitol doors were, I don't know, strangely, mysteriously left open.

The guards allowed people to come in, etc.

But Trump very effectively contrasted that with the 120 days in May of 200, Jane,

July, August of 2020, in which $2 billion of damage, 1,500 police officers assaulted,

you know,

I guess 35 people killed, arson, in which Biden didn't say a word about it.

The blue state mayors and governors didn't want Trump to intervene, but national troops that could have stopped it.

We remember that Camilla Harris bailed out some of the perpetrators, gave to that cause.

Then she had her infamous, this is not going to stop.

This won't stop.

It shouldn't stop.

It's going to go all the way to Election Day.

That was resonated by Molly Balls, the journalist,

2021 essay, which, excuse me, yes, 2021, where she bragged that there had been a cabal and conspiracy to coordinate the demonstrations

with the election for Biden's advantage, et cetera, et cetera.

So

we're coming to something, something i guess jack i'd call the reckoning yep the wheels of the god gods grind slowly but they grind finely and finally you get down to the point where

the unsustainable is unsustainable or as um

former

secretary of the treasurer said what can't go on won't go on and what he meant by that was

if something is innately flawed and the majority promulgates it and the argument by authority is successful, it ultimately will fail because of the sheer absurdity of what they're arguing.

And so what I, you can't go in America, you can't make the argument in America when you're wracked by arson and destruction and burning of federal courthouses and 14,000 people arrested and 35 people murdered and killed, that that is nothing and you let them go, the 14,000 for the most part.

And then you have this buffoonish riot when you put people in solitary confinement, don't charge them immediately, ruin their lives, grandmothers who happen to be in the premises.

It's not sustainable.

The lie about Joe Biden, as Corinne Jean-Pierre said, that

he exhausts her and his energy is not sustainable.

They sustained it for three years, but it was.

I think I've said on this broadcast before, I got in trouble, I think in, in, I don't know, 2024.

I think I said on Martha McCallan's show that Biden was reptilian-like, and I meant that he was like a lizard.

He looked bad.

He didn't move.

He was bewildered.

And that was not a sustainable narrative.

And it fell apart last night at the debate.

And a lot of these other narratives are the border secure narrative is not sustainable.

The laptop lie was not sustainable.

The collusion is not sustainable.

The alpha bing is not sustainable.

Joe Biden said that nobody had died under his watch.

And the Afghanistan was Trump's fault.

That was not sustainable.

He said the same old thing, no inflation under his watch, basically inherited from Trump.

That was a lie.

It was not sustainable.

So all these things are not sustainable.

And now they're all coming.

There's a reckoning and they're all starting to collide.

And I have a feeling as I keep hammering at nauseum.

This is like 1980 and

Biden is the Carter scold and the Biden record is worse than the Carter record and all the vituperation and vitriol they aimed at Reagan as an outsider, a crazy man.

He's going to blow up what they're doing to Trump.

And they think it's working because the people are disengaged and finally they say, enough is enough is enough.

I've had it with this bunch.

And two weeks before the election, the the Gallup poll that had Carter seven points ahead explodes and Reagan wins by nine points.

I think if they are not careful, we're looking at that.

Anybody who saw that debate would say, you know what?

If you're a pro-Trump people, you say, well, he's going to have to sharpen his game if he has to debate Newsom or Vitchin Whitmer or Josh Shapiro.

But he did an admirable job for somebody who didn't prep.

He winged it.

It was ad hoc, no notes, no aids.

And

he really did well on the abortion.

They thought they were going to pin him on it.

He did the two things you always have to do if you're a conservative on that issue.

One is

you don't apologize for the repeal of Roe B.

Wade and you say it's up to the states and each state has a unique culture and they adjudicate it.

Federal government, why would you want to re-intervene with the federal government when the court said it was not a federal government matter?

And number two,

you have to say

that for instances of rape, I'm not talking about morality, Jack.

I'm just talking about pure raw politics.

You have to say for rape or life of the mother or incest, the abortions are permissible.

And more importantly, you have to mention the 10,000 murders.

And by that, I mean the baby is either born or in the birth canal.

And if you stick to that, it's a winning issue.

And that's exactly what Trump did.

And he won that issue.

He won the border issue.

It was a little monotonous because at some point

he himself said, why are we debating?

There's nothing to debate.

He just pointed his finger at Biden and said, he's a horrible president.

He's destroyed the country.

And we shouldn't even have to be here.

I shouldn't even have had to run.

If he had been mediocre, I wouldn't have run.

I didn't ask for this headache.

So I thought he did pretty well.

And it's not sustainable, the Biden project, and there's a reckoning going on

right

before our eyes.

Some people are blind and can't see it, but I think the black vote, the Latino vote, the independent vote, and the youth vote is going to start pulling even more heavily Trump after that debate.

Trump is a wily fox.

We don't give him credit.

When I wrote the case for Trump, I read all the...

Animal Cunning is how you.

Yes, I did.

I read the Art of the Comeback, the Art of the Deal, et cetera.

And so when he said, oh, we'll debate him anytime, anywhere, he knew they were going to take him up on that because they had to.

Because

they wouldn't have if he had been cognitively tolerable and he was ahead in the polls.

But Trump waited to say that when Trump was ahead

and Biden was failing.

So he knew that they were going to jump at it.

And he knew they were going to warp the rules to hoping that he would back off and look weak.

So they said, you have to stand up.

There can't be any crowd.

There's going to cut the mics and CNN

are going to do it.

And Trump jumped at it and he was criticized, but I think he was in his animal cunning thinking, hmm,

I'm going to blast CNN in the next couple of weeks or three weeks before the debate.

And I'm going to mention they called me Hitler, et cetera, et cetera.

And they're going to be so skittish that they're going to be on their good behavior, number one.

Number two, if I can't cut in on the mic, that might be good actually, because he's going to try to incite me, call me names, Stormy Daniels, Charlottesville, that whole stuff.

And I won't be able to editorialize and interrupt him.

It'll look like I'm more polite.

The idea you have to stand up,

I don't mind that.

I stand up an hour and a half at rallies all the time.

He doesn't.

So in a weird way, he let Biden lead himself into a trap.

And the trap closed on him last night.

And now they don't know what to do.

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Biden said the trillionaires.

I don't know one trillionaire.

But if you were a billionaire of the donor class, what would you do with your money right now, Jack?

I know Mike Bloomberg just gave $20 million.

That's the worst investment he made since the billion that he blew up running himself.

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Victor, I don't want you to have to repeat anything that you may have already discussed with the great Sammy Wink, but did you

Did you talk at all about Jill Biden and her culpability in all this?

Anything related to the debate and her?

Because

I don't think she gets enough attention, but you may have gone over it already.

No, we did not.

Dr.

Jill,

something's wrong with that woman.

I mean,

you get a doctor of education, you teach at a community college, and you insist that you're called doctor.

And then, with people who have PhDs that teach at universities, it's kind of considered crass to call yourself doctor.

So there was an insecurity there.

There was an animosity between her and Hunter.

She was the proverbial stepmother.

I do have sympathy trying to walk into that catastrophe of a family.

But there was obviously some kind of anger at the Obamas that she felt shortchanged, that they had not given, they had made fun of Joe, or they cut him out, or that she didn't get her proper place in the sun during those eight years.

It was a complete misreading because after the disastrous 2008 primary, Joe Biden was nowhere.

He was headed for a quiet and

forgetful retirement.

A career as a constitutional scholar.

A career as a

crook,

joining Hunter to shake people down

with the proviso that he had nothing to offer anymore.

He had no ties to the government.

So

he should have shown Obama some deference for resurrecting a morbid career.

But she was obviously angry.

So then she pushed this, pushed this, pushed this.

It was going nowhere.

He lost February New Hampshire, the New Hampshire and

Iowa caucuses.

And then

people came to her and said, Wow, Buttigig, Julian Castro, Spartacus, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Bernie Sanders.

These are commies.

We're going to lose, and we're going to lose to Donald Trump.

And he's going to be here for eight years.

We're going to get behind your husband.

And she just went crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they all mysteriously, remember they all kind of

faded out and that Faustian bargain was born where.

Buttigigig got his cabinet post, Bernie got, and Elizabeth got their left-wing agenda, et cetera, et cetera.

And

ever since since then, they had a very strange relationship.

She grew in importance at the same rate that he declined in cognitive ability.

So each week that he stumbled, had brain feases, seemed to be

lost,

then she got more powerful and powerful.

The only thing I don't understand about her surrogate row is what's her relationship with the Obamas?

Because

Susan Rice, Samantha Power, the DOJ, Eric Cole, all these people are very active, Ben Rhodes.

I don't know if she welcomes that or she tries to, she's like

Constantinople and they're outside the Theodeson walls and she's trying to bat them away to protect Joe.

But she's obviously will not let him resign.

He could have a very good exit,

Jack.

He really could.

Washingtonian exit.

He could say this.

He could say,

well,

I had never really

planned

to have two terms.

As I said,

I was at an age

at a point in my career that I thought it would be wise for me to serve my country.

I did that.

I staunched.

I did one thing that

It was very important.

I abbreviated the Trump presidency.

And now I'm at a point where I think

I'm not up to running another four years.

And I want to make sure that my party can nominate

a younger and more forceful candidate to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't return.

And if he were to do that, he would be beloved by the left.

And then he would be the senior member.

But

they never do that.

Edith Wilson didn't do that with Rudwell Wilson.

And FDR was in no position to run in 44.

He should have never run.

The only good thing he did is he had his own Camilla Harris, Henry Wallace, and he just jumped him.

But you don't do that with a black woman in 2024.

So

I don't know.

She is wants every moment she's got a new outfit on, she's speaking and she's an ignoramus, you know, that

I love tacos and all that stuff in front of Hispanic.

But every moment she's in that limelight, she thinks it's worth it, and she will not give that up.

She was

the post-debate reception.

I forget if I was watching CNN or Fox, and they cut away to this.

And she was up on a stage with him, and he was looking,

he had a little smile on his face, but

looking like a prop.

And she was very animated and

in her way and nasty and political.

But the thing got me about her, and the reason prompted me to ask you about her, Victor, was seeing a video this morning of her leading him off the stage after the debate.

And

he looked incredibly geriatric.

And

I mean, it has to be obvious to her.

And she wants, is this her husband?

And what if he won?

What's he going to be like

four years from now?

I saw that too.

And I was asking myself, what

I was in a, we all are in those similar positions.

I had a very, very vigorous mother.

And I mean,

she was just an astounding Renaissance woman.

At 17, she was the first female student body president of her high school.

She graduated at 17.

She followed my father to the University of Pacific

and then got a bachelor's and then went to Stanford and got a second bachelor's degree and then went to law school at 23

and then came home and rather just doing the cursus enormum, you know, the feminist thing, she came home and lived in a little 800 square foot house that my dad had moved.

It was an old farmhouse that was wrecked and he just got a big trailer and he moved it.

And he put a foundation.

Then she raised, she lost a daughter and then she raised us three.

And then at 40, she re-entered the legal world

as a judicial assistant and really worked tirelessly to support us and my father.

My father had a good job, but she was the primary breadwinner.

And then in her mid-50s, early 50s, she was appointed the second superior court judge that was female in this vast Fresno County area.

And then she was, I think, either the first or second female appellate court judge.

And then suddenly, Jack, she got

a meningioma brain tumor, which they had said was benign.

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And they took it out,

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And then the next time I took her in, she had 11 tumors, 11 in her spinal column, brain, et cetera.

And then I watched her, and she got like Joe Biden.

And she was very well-dressed.

She was very professional.

And I, in that window between the diagnosis of all the tumors and complete cognitive loss, there was about three months.

So I would take her to places with my father.

He liked to have a drink once in a while, and my mom was the judge.

He was paranoid.

So if a person had one drink, they could not drive.

So I drove her and him.

And it was very sad because she would come to me and say, Did I repeat myself?

Or

did I wander off?

And she did sometimes.

Anybody would with 11 tumors in your spinal cord.

You know, they're all growing at a geometric rate.

But I never said, oh, you're okay.

I never said to everybody, you're okay.

And she should keep going.

I said to my mother, I wish you wouldn't do this because

You don't need to anymore and don't feel obligated and your health comes first and you're not the same person that you were before and i want you and they will say that was what i was trying to say is protectors you know what i mean by that protector health i said why don't you just come home and stay on the ranch we'll just move you and dad move down from fresno just stay on the ranch where you were born and you have all the family around you and we'll take care of you

And we won't put you in a hospital.

We'll take care of you.

And when you're not able to recognize us, us, it doesn't matter.

We'll have a hospice guidance.

And that's what we did for two months.

But

I can't get the idea that I would have used her for my own career.

You know, hey, mom, I'm a professor and they want me to have a colloquium on ancient law.

Would you, I think you're still okay to speak.

You know what I'm saying?

Right, absolutely.

Who would do that?

Jill Biden, that's who.

Yeah.

And she's

obviously taxing his health.

And

my advice to her is, you're going to kill him.

And I think it's a 50-50 chance he might not make it to the election.

And I think he might.

He's got these beautiful homes.

I won't ask how they were gotten.

But why wouldn't you say, Joe, you're too precious to me?

And you did your job.

You stopped Trump.

That's what we wanted to do.

And we did it.

And now we're going to hand the baton off and we're going to get, finally, we're going to get our golden years.

And I want to spend as much time with you and work on your health.

That would be a great thing to say, but she's so darn selfish.

She'll never do that.

It's all about her.

Well, very, very troubling to watch it.

Half of me wants to say, well, as you've talked before about karma, these people have something coming to them, but it's still unpleasant to see.

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Victor,

maybe two things quickly, and then maybe one last final thing about back on the debate.

Two

important Supreme Court decisions came down today.

One had to do with a city in Oregon,

which had sued, passed a law to stop homeless encampments on

public grounds.

And they won.

The Supreme Court upheld the decision.

And of course, it was a 6-3 decision.

And the liberal justices, Sodomaire and others, complained, well, people have to sleep somewhere.

I'm guessing encampments are supposed to be part of our public planning nowadays.

But so it kind of seems like a victory for

law, order, decency,

normalcy.

So that was one decision.

And then another,

I think, more important decision, Victor, and of course, your opinions is what we're here for, is the overturning of the 40-year

Chevron

decision from the Supreme Court from 40 years ago.

And again, on a 6-3 majority, the High Court overturned this pro-bureaucrat ruling.

Though Congress passes a law, the law is not fulsome, doesn't describe everything, but bureaucrats and regulators have felt empowered and

have been empowered to fill in and essentially create law.

And a fishery of some kind, I think it was in Rhode Island,

sued.

And they were being charged a fee to have some sort of federal

overlooker be on board while they were catching, I don't know if it was mackerel or some kind of fish.

And so, but this is costly to us and it's not in the law.

Where is it in the law?

The regulators made it up, and the court

overturned

the preference for regulators.

So it's quite, it's a long time coming for conservatives who have found this more than a nuisance.

It's a terrible

burden on businesses.

A big victory.

That is a big victory for conservatives.

Victor, your thoughts on either of these cases.

I wrote about the unelected and the dying citizen, and those are the the people, the many thousands, in fact, over a million, that operate as judge, jury, and executioner.

By that I mean is

the law is passed, and then

they execute it selectively, often ideologically and politically.

And then

when you object, they become the judge of whether they or you were overstepping and then they assess the penalty.

And

the examples I mentioned were the Raisin Administrative Committee,

but most importantly the EPA.

So if they're afraid that a major waterway might have too much nitrogen or be polluted, then the EPA person says, you know, I don't really like corporate agriculture or I don't like raisin.

I don't like these guys.

So I'm going to just say, after a big rain, a low spot has a pond, and I'm going to go test it for nitrogen, even though it's not a waterway, but it is water.

And maybe I can say it's an extension of what the legislators should have done or what they would have done or what they wanted to do, but they didn't.

And then they assess you a fine and you say, this is outrageous.

I can't pay it.

And then they said, well,

we'll have a superior judge and see if it was fair or not.

And then

What's your recourse?

You can go get an attorney.

And of course, they have the power of the federal government free.

So

they get defended and you have to go to court.

And this has been going on for

years.

And this was the abuse of every administrative state.

It's the abuse of the people at Versailles, the 15,000.

It's the abuse of the people at the Escorral during the Spanish Empire.

It was the abuse of the apparatus at the Kremlin during the Soviet Union.

It was the abuse.

of the 20,000 Athenians and Athenian democracy that were on boards.

It just, it's a bad thing to happen.

And we let it happen.

What was that we let happen?

Allowing people who are not elected to have enormous independent power.

And there's one other element.

They don't make as much as some people in the private enterprise, and yet they feel that as judges of their behavior, they're morally superior, and they're often envious and jealous.

So nothing makes a regulator happier to get a very wealthy, successful private business person and bring him in and humiliate him bankrupt.

And you saw that with Letita James and

Trump.

And so

I think it was, I didn't think it would happen.

I don't think anybody thought it would happen.

It's another testament to Trump's,

I don't know,

his really wise ruling.

Right.

about the

I shouldn't say wise ruling selection the ruling that he was going to pre-pick these judges to the Federalist Society.

Julie Kelly, there's not much to say there.

We know what they were doing.

They were trying to single out protesters because of their hatred of Trump, and they were going to give them such inordinate and excessive punishments.

and bail and fines that nobody would ever dare protest on behalf of Trump again.

That was all it was about.

And they got caught.

Again, this is all part of the reckoning.

The country is slowly reawakening from its woke DI stupor that was almost terminal after the killing of George, dying of George Floyd.

And I think now people are saying, oh my God, the country is insane.

It went crazy.

We've got to wake up.

We're going to see it in judicial, legislative, and executive changes, I hope.

Well, Victor, one last thing we'll talk about is lying.

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Victor, as we head into the home stretch, I just want to read a little something that my old colleague at National Review, Charlie Cook, wrote today.

And this is in the aftermath of the debate.

And it's on the corner.

And it's titled, Remember Who Lied to You.

And here's how it ends.

I record this here, not to say I told you so, although there's nothing wrong with that, but as a reminder that those people will also be lying when the next big topic comes up.

This isn't a one-time thing.

It's not limited to Joe Biden's age or to this election.

It's endemic.

If you're willing to lie about the president not being senile, and everyone can see that the president is senile, then you're willing to lie about anything to advance your political goals.

The people who lied about Biden's senility will do exactly the same thing next time, tomorrow, probably, if not today.

And the rest of us ought to remember that.

Victor, you've been saying this in many ways.

Yeah, I mean, and I was surprised that Charlie said that.

He's an arch, never Trumper, and I doubt that he will vote for Trump a third time.

He didn't the first two times, I think, according to his own statements.

So that was kind of unusual to see that, but

it's kind of an insurrection if you think about it.

If you really think think about it, it's kind of like with Dr.

Fauci.

If you just tune out, I hate Fauci, I love Fauci, just look at Dr.

Fauci.

And when you start going step by step, you get to this truth that's you get down to the ninth circle of hell.

And it's

this man

used federal resources

to fund and aid gain of function research in a Chinese communist-controlled lab and tried to hide his circumvention of the law, which was illegal.

And then, when this engineered virus escaped, he used the power of the purse and his influence as a controller of 50 billion and more in federal dollars to promulgate another lie that it was a battle pangolin.

Well, it's the same thing.

Jill

and the people around Biden engineered a complete lie that somebody in 2019 and 20,

during the primary debates, remember there were people like Corey Bookier and Julian Castro who said, who, I don't know what he's saying.

And Kamala here, they all said that.

And they lied and lied and lied to us.

They never took a cognitive test.

Trump pointed that out in the debate.

And they foisted upon us, the most physically incapacitated president, probably more than Franklin Delaware Wilson, maybe not Woodrow Wilson.

And they knew what they were doing, and they did it so that they could get a veneer of the old Joe Biden from Pennsylvania to hide a Marxist agenda.

And that's what they did.

And it was sort of an insurrection.

a coup almost because he's not been a president he doesn't anybody who saw him on that stage knows he does not know where he is or what he's doing.

And that was all the result of being off of work and an unprecedented step to take eight, nine days off of work.

You know, yeah.

It's

vacation from leading the free world so we could F up a debate.

And I'm

speaking right now, there's a lot of people who are working as truck drivers who've got the flu.

There's a lot of people like me had long, have long COVID.

And the idea that you would just take off nine days, eight days to prepare for something, a speech, you would be fired if you did that.

And that's what he did.

And there's a nemesis, that U.S.

earned nemesis, because the more that he took off and the more he got clobbered with all of these advisors screaming in his face to do this and that and incite Trump, call him that name, do this, Charlotte Swill, the more they put all that into his head, the more his head exploded.

Well, Victor, you've been great today.

I know we're a little rushed on time.

I want to thank our listeners, especially those who go to Apple and iTunes, if there is such a thing as iTunes left.

Someone said there isn't anymore, to

rate the show zero to five stars.

And most give the show five stars.

It's a 4.9 average.

Thanks very much for that.

And thanks to those who leave comments.

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