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You know, at the beginning of the last show we recorded, Victor, we got off, the show started with you talking a little bit about your new bestseller, The End of Everything.

And that was wonderful and still a bestseller.

Folks, if you haven't bought it yet, go out and buy it.

But you also have another bestseller from a few years ago, which you've

updated and is going to be released in August.

And that was the case for Trump.

so you might i'm assuming that's going to turn into a bestseller too we can't assume anything but that you you've you've more than just uh did a little bit of buff buff here buff buff there you've go ahead tell us about that well i corrected the mistakes if there weren't i mean the typos but um i wrote a 20 000 word uh introduction like in a whole new chapter for and it's a red edition paperback

uh it's a little misleading it says 2024 edition, but they didn't put new introduction because I had updated it once with an earlier preface that was very short after the

Biden victory.

But this one is

a long discussion of everything that had happened to Trump from the end of the book until

April of this year.

And it's out, I think, August 1st.

And

I'm looking forward to that.

The Dying Citizen just keeps, of all my books,

I don't quite understand it.

It just keeps selling steadily, you know, and I think the two books are getting near 500,000, the Trump book and the Dying Citizen.

Seriously.

And all the copies, I mean, you know,

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audio, e-book, paperback, hardback.

And then I got over, well, over 100,000 on the World War II book.

So thank everybody for reading them.

And I hope I should have, based on New York's bestseller figures on Amazon, I should have 50,000, I think, sold for the end of everything.

End of everything?

I feel bad.

I feel terrible because

I had this two-week trip scheduled and then I got this COVID and I haven't said a word.

I haven't been on Fox News for three weeks.

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I'm going to try to resume that on Monday if I can for the whole week.

Well, you make up for it, Victor.

You do not take off.

Who does take off is Joe Biden, right?

He spends most of his life in his Delaware basement.

There may be an ice cream machine down there.

Victor, he has

his administration.

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Victor, if I can get my paperwork in place here, I was looking this morning.

We're recording on Saturday, the 15th of June.

Hot Air had a piece titled Biden Administration to Announce Path to Citizenship for Illegal Immigrants next week.

So by the time this is out on the on the 20th of June, he may have already done it.

Now, why would they be doing that right now?

I'm scratching.

I mean,

everybody knows that they're doing the tariffs for the auto workers.

They're doing the betray Israel for the Arab American vote in Michigan.

They're doing don't touch oil refineries in the Ukraine war for the commuter.

They're doing the

give student loans more billions in amnesties for their upper,

you know, their upper, upper middle class single student youth voter who's got an art history major or gender studies and owes a quarter million dollars or something.

And we know that we're probably going to get

a reduction in the Fed, and that won't be an accident either.

But what,

and we

I think Sammy and I discussed it, that Obador, who hates Trump, and remember what he said, he wanted 40 million Mexican-American voters to vote against Trump and not to vote for a single Republican because he wants that 60 billion in remittances.

And now he's doing kind of a weird shuffle where he

gets his buses as they get near the wall, he busses them back to where they began, and then they come back, and he busses them back to demoralize them.

But no, not to get rid of them, because as soon as he thinks Biden wins,

he'll just let him come in.

Or if Biden loses, he thinks he's still got a four-month window of opportunity until Trump would be inaugurated.

But why,

why, why, why is Biden talking about amnesties now?

And I think it's, I'm not going to be conspiratorial, but I think it's to send a message for the, there were 20 million illegal aliens, and now there's 30, or they're at 40.

that 20 million figure had been considered low 25 it was more likely maybe 35 million i think he's sending the message that you're just about to be citizens and if somebody you're living in an apartment and you're just about to get amnesty and somebody just comes to the door and hands you a ballot or you get a ballot in the mail because you went to the disability office or you went to the dmv filled out the form they did it they sent it to you whether you wanted it and all you got to do is check pull it out.

You know who's your benefactor.

So I think, and that's why Laura Trump, I think, came out yesterday and said, we're going to prosecute people who vote, who are not citizens.

We're going to watch them.

And I don't know how she's going to do that.

But

this is deliberate.

And

it wants to elicit a response that I just gave.

So then they can say, you're a racist.

How dare you suggest that?

When the whole point is that's what they want, is

election interference.

If you don't believe that, then don't do it before the election.

Just say, you know what, they can't vote anyway, so there's no constituency that I can win on this.

And given that the fact that the polls show that Hispanic-Latino voters, this is a losing issue for me, opening the border.

I'm just going to keep out of it.

But the fact that I'm going to do it right before the election, I'm going to grant all these amnesties, maybe there's a suggestion that this will encourage people to vote who otherwise shouldn't.

Well, it may work the other way also, Victor.

A couple of things.

I think we talked about it last week that

some surveys had showed 62% of Americans across the board were in favor of deportation.

But this, and I'm going to read here from this hot air piece, the program being developed by White House officials would offer work permits and deportation protections to unauthorized immigrants married to U.S.

citizens as long as they lived in the U.S.

for at least 10 years.

And there are other components to it.

Parole in place

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They don't believe the left, they're internationalist globalists.

They don't believe in borders.

They don't believe in sovereignty.

They don't believe in nationhood.

We know that from the EU.

They believe that

these are artificial constructs, a border, and that people have a God-given right to live anywhere they want on the planet.

And that's what they say abstractly.

Concretely, they think the more people that we bring in

who have claims upon the medical system, the legal system, the educational system, the housing system, the food system, and need our support, the more they're going to be loyal constituents.

And we don't have a message otherwise that appeals to American citizens, at least not at 51%.

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Victor, you've never crossed paths with Kevin Costner, have you?

I never crossed paths with him.

No, I never have.

I think he's really developed as an actor.

You know, when I first saw him in Silverado, remember that Western

young 20-something, and he was kind of hyperactive.

And then

was he an officer in a movie called No Way Out with Gene Hackman or something?

He was.

Yeah.

I didn't, I thought he was a, you know, he was kind of a good-looking guy that women like, but he wasn't an accomplished.

But the more that he's aged,

Open Range, you remember that movie?

Is that what it was with Robert Duvall?

Oh,

what was the name of that?

That was a good movie.

There's some Robert Duvall had a bunch of those.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And Ed Benning,

that was a really good, not the one with Thomas Day Church.

But Dances with Wolves?

No, it was a Western about a guy.

They were leading cattle, and they go into this town, there's this awful guy that controls it, and he kills one of their partners.

But he was good in that.

And

he's been developing as a very good actor in that particular male of Westerns.

And I really admire him for trying to bring back the Western.

And

there's moments in that movie that he does well.

He acts well.

But

I wish they would bring back the Western, but it's very hard to find actors that have that 19th century semi-Midwestern southern accent and have that look without having that valley girl type of twang.

They're just Los Angeles Southern California actors.

Yeah, although Victor, one of the greatest Western actor from back in the 20s and 30s was people considered Harry Carey.

Yes.

And he was from the Bronx.

Yeah, was he?

Harry Carey Jr.

was a great actor.

He was part of the John Ford.

Yeah, the John Ford company.

He was a great actor.

But, you know, people like, I'm just thinking about people like Warren Oates or Ben Johnson, people like that, that were natural fits for that role.

Oh, the Sam Peckenpod boys.

Yeah.

And then there were other people that weren't, but they were such, they had a screen for Joel McRae or Gary Cooper or Bill Holden.

They could do it too.

They were just, they understood what the West was about.

And I hope we can re-energize that.

But the problem today is almost every single Western brings in a contemporary DEI issue.

Right.

And

that dominates the drama and the characterization, the dialogue, and the plot.

And in the old days, there were issues about fairness to Native Americans, but that wasn't the plot.

It was a human plot.

It was human interaction or tragedy or a quest

or a Homeric type of idea.

But you don't see that anymore.

Yeah.

And

Plineswood, see, you know, I mean, he brought in issues of race and gender and all that.

But,

you know,

his were

Pale Rider and those types of things.

They were about revenge and they were Odyssean.

And

that was the main thrust of all of them.

No, I was thinking about Shane, which is we've discussed before.

I don't know if it's fair to say it's your favorite Western.

I think it's one of the greatest films ever made.

But, you know,

the striker, the guy that owns the bad guy,

he at least makes a, he tries to make a debatable case for why.

his claim to why no you're absolutely right he tries to say that he's been wounded and you guys only come into our you know jackson valley once we fought the indians and we we got we settled the plains and then now we have to have you know one cow per 10 acres because of the arid arid and you come in and you want to farm

they're not sympathetic characters but you're right george stevens i think he's the one that directed it it was a brilliant

It was a brilliant movie because he was sensitive to all of the claims of the,

I don't know what you call them.

Well, the settlers.

The settlers and the cow barons and cattle barons.

And

he had a really good

the best thing about that movie is Shane says to them, you've outlived your age.

Whether you like it or not, you're done for.

You can't just make your own laws and you can't live by the gun.

And then they say, well, how about you?

And he said, the difference is I know it and you don't.

And that's why he rides off.

There's no purpose for him anymore.

There's no need for a guy like him.

It's going to be,

it's kind of a Toynbeean ascent of civilization.

His outline of history is societies go through all of these

challenges of elemental nature, existential challenges of social control.

crime, food, shelter, prosperity, and then they get to a certain point and they begin to enjoy it.

And then it's the typical third generation doesn't have any contact with the first who created it.

And then it goes down into a descent of luxury and vice and leisure, which is what we're in right now.

Exactly.

But everybody's always more interested in the ascent of a society.

That's why there's, you know, the Civil War and the 19th century gets such attention.

And then you start to see, and even in the 1950s, I've been watching a a lot of 1950s movies where I've been sick.

And there's just something about that era.

It was like they came out of the Depression, World War II,

can do.

You know, it was just,

we're masters of our fate, and we're going to build this country.

And you remember the end of the...

how the West was won when all of a sudden, I think it's Spencer Tracy starts narrating all the freeways in Los Angeles and the Hoover Dam and everything.

And this is the ultimate expression of the Western.

And there's something about,

I'm not saying we're in a Hegel or.

Hegelian.

Yeah, Hegelian, or maybe we're in a

Spingalian descent, but I am saying it,

in which people...

who enjoy the fruits of free market capitalism and constitutional government don't have a clue how to renew it and don't have the character to at least grant some gratitude to the people who built this system.

And people who come in as immigrants come in with demands on their host and they never say to themselves, there's a reason why I'm leaving Oaxaca or I'm leaving Venezuela or I'm leaving Eastern Europe or I'm leaving South Korea or I'm leaving

Somalia or the Sudan and coming to your country because somebody built something in a system that I find superior to my own.

They can't do that.

You're racist, I have a claim against you the moment I set foot.

But we are in a dissent.

And then it's interesting, after writing this book, you know, I've written a lot, but

it's hard for a society.

The Byzantines were aware after the Fourth Crusade that it was over, and they were trying to restore, and they knew what they had to do.

That gets back to that famous remark by Libby, the historian, that societies are in crisis when the remedy is considered worse than the disease.

That is, you know, you've got to take the medicine, but you know the medicine is going to make you sick.

So you'd rather just go on like you are, the chemotherapy.

And so that's what's kind of sad.

And

we know what we have to do, Jack.

We know we have to balance the budget.

We've got to cut back on entitlements.

We've got to invest in infrastructure.

We've got to stop the massive redistribution.

We've got to close the border.

We've got to build up our defenses.

We've got to

live more leanly.

And we don't need this popular, exploitive, excessive culture.

We all know that.

But how would you do it?

What kind of leader would have the strength of character or the vision or the support to say, you know what?

In five years, this budget's going to be balanced.

In another five years, we're going to be paying off the debt.

You know what?

We're going to have the largest Navy in the world again, and nobody is going to screw with the international order when they see an american ship you know what we're going to get rid of the tribalism we are just humans we're all brothers in the united states and anybody i don't care if they're white or black or brown i don't care anybody who starts to mention race and their singularity and their is a racist and we're going to consider them racist

and it who could do that it would just be

takes a virtue it takes a strong leader it takes a virtuous people too i mean not since we're talking about movies, Victor, it's like the run on the bank, right?

The Bailey mortgage and loan.

And

the first guy demands all his money, but everyone else agrees

that the situation at hand means.

It's a wonderful life.

That was so sad because the whole narrative is that here's a guy who had natural talent.

And if he can just get out of this town, like his brother did, who became a war hero, and all of his friends that he grew up with, they're in the new changing economy and they're making evil that guy yes yeah that guy

and they've got everything and then he's got this family and they finally before he finally gonna go on his vacation they've saved their money and they got to use it and he knows the right thing to do is to help this community and he knows they're not going to really appreciate it they do in the end he doesn't know that until the end until he almost kills himself but the point is that um

there's no the race doesn't go to the swift and everybody has to accept that Right.

It's the rewards for integrity and behavior and honesty are in the next world, is what I think

that movie suggests.

Yeah.

Well, we have some polling and other political things to get your thoughts on, Victor, and we'll do that right after these important messages.

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Hey, Victor, I'm springing this on you.

Would you mind telling us while you were recuperating and watching some movies?

I don't want to get the impression you were laying on a couch with

an ice bag on your head and a glass of tea in your hand.

But

were you watching more movies or just random movies?

Well,

my wife and I got into watching The Longest Day.

I think it was

we had come back from Normandy.

I didn't realize that was a great movie.

It really was.

Yeah, terrific.

I mean, it didn't have the visual spectacular nature of the cinematography as Saved and Prime Minister Ryan, but there was something about it.

It was really good.

They had everybody in Hollywood was in it, and they had a really good, authentic German version of everything from the German side.

And they had every great German actor in the world in it.

And so I thought that was, we watched that.

I watched a movie I'd never seen before

last night with

Michael Caine and Shirley McLean.

Have you ever seen this thing called Gambit?

It was on Turner.

It got like four stars.

No, I'd never seen it either.

And I would have to see when Turner puts it.

It was about

a heist.

And

he's a thief, and she's supposedly culturally appropriating

an oriental identity, and they're going to try to steal this thing.

And I really

thought it was pretty well done.

So anyway, I like that.

And

we've been watching, I'm trying to watch a lot of Westerns that I shouldn't be watching.

I've seen them so many times.

But

I've also got,

I've been a Joel McRae fan.

And he was just a wonderful actor.

And he was a wonderful person, too.

He had an upright character.

He's really a great person.

And

he was, I watched the other day right before Ride the High Country.

And

that's a brilliant film from an early filmmaker.

That was, I think, his first big filmmaker.

Was that Peck and Paw?

Did he make that?

Yes, he did.

He did.

And uh randolph scott is in it and right they had the whole peck and paw early gang warren oats is in it and uh

it

joel mcrae it's kind of corny in the end he says should we go and do it the old way and they just get up and walk out and they shoot it out blazing yeah yeah

terrific

anyway it's um all right when i watch these things it gives me memories of my grandfather who was born in this house in 1890 and he was a completely classic gentleman.

He wasn't a big guy, but he was very self-educated.

He was a wonderful,

it was a great compliment to my paternal grandfather, who was a huge Swede

and was much,

he was tough.

And he broke horses, and they just got along great at Easter.

They were very different.

One had a 40-acre farm that he broke horses on and animals, and the other had this farm that I live on.

But he would tell me stories, what I'm getting at, of what Salma was like when he grew up.

And he was giving me this, you know, and he was, I think it was in 1898 or 9, two people had an argument over the early ditch that brought water from the Sierra, and they each had buckshot, and they fought it out.

And they had a running shotgun battle.

down the streets of Salma.

And I won't mention the name because some of the streets are named after them, and they were very prominent.

And he would tell me, and then I had an uncle who

my grandfather's mother, my maternal,

wife, my maternal grandmother had come to Selma in 1900 at 10.

And then she had worked at my grandfather's little shed, the cut, and that's how they met.

But her brother, Langford Johnson, was born.

He was much younger in 1900.

But he told me, and I asked people if it was true, true, when they sold their new,

her brother was shot down in a saloon

when she was nine years old.

They had 12 kids in the family, my grandmother's family.

And he was sweeping up the saloon and a gambler was drunk and didn't like the sound and turned around and shot him and immediately took off with his gang.

And her father, Langford Johnson Sr.,

sold their pretty prosperous cattle ranch, took all the money, hired a posse, and chased this guy down for two years.

And then brought him back, I think, from Mexico.

And they had the trial.

My mom was a judge.

She went back and looked at the trial record and they acquitted him of murder because the jury was, they said it was involuntary manslaughter.

And the result of that is they came with nothing.

And the

youngest boy who was, he died in 1998, I think at 98.

And I knew him very well, very right-wing guy with a cowboy hat, cowboy boots, very successful cattleman.

The guy used to bring stuff to on Christmas Day.

Yes, he did.

And a lot of people in my family didn't like him.

I got along with him really well.

Yeah.

But he,

because he was so right-wing, I think I was secretly right-wing already then.

But he,

they asked him to close the house up.

They all took the train and he got a couple of horses.

And he was 14 years old.

And he rode from Los Alamos, New Mexico with two horses by himself in 19, I think it was, oh, I don't know what year it was, but he was not more than 14.

He went back.

They had had the house for years.

Nobody was living there.

He wanted to clean up.

So he went out and they sent him back on a train and he bought some lifestyle by himself at 14.

Wow.

And he was

some mouse.

And

his hard people would would give me,

he would tell me what a great guy Slim Pickens was, Kingsburg Swede that I think had moved to Texas, and he'd come back and worked on the Woodlake Rodeo as a clown.

And

big, so I got to know him.

Oh, I love Slim Pickens.

It was really being born in 1953, there was just a glimpse of, say, 1960 when I was seven.

And those people that were born in 1880, 1890, you know, were still alive.

And they had different accents, they had different mannerisms, but they were a window into what America was like when they were kids.

Right.

And so

they were still impressed by flush toilets.

My grandmother would say, oh my gosh, can you imagine?

And we have water right in the sink.

It's just a miracle, Victor.

It's just a miracle.

They'd say things like, no, don't go out yonder.

If you don't have a coat, there's colds out there.

You're going to catch one.

And

it was a really interesting, I was very lucky.

And then, you know, and then World War II was only, you know, 15 years, 14 years.

So I'd crawl under the table after Thanksgiving.

They'd all be around.

Well, you know, I was out, I was then there at in the

Aleutians.

And then the Aleutians, that was a backwater.

I was on Philippines with MacArthur.

Well, I rolled with Patton in the third.

And it was when my father would just say, okay,

I flew 40 missions.

I don't want to talk about on a B-29.

And, you know, Victor was killed on Okinawa.

And then somebody else would, and then they'd say, well,

we'll pull Holtz not here.

He got shot in the head 30 days after D-Day.

So they were, that's all they did was talk about, but not, you know, not just at celebrations.

You never heard him say a word elsewhere, but they all got into it.

Right.

Right.

Well, friendly ways.

They were proud of them.

They were, they should have been proud of them.

They beat the Japanese and the Germans.

They beat the Depression.

Yeah.

And they were going to become part of the new, prosperous, successful, optimistic upbeat.

I remember a guy came to our door and said, you know, you've got to read the great books, the University of Chicago program, and we can sell you one great book a month for $3.

And so my mom signed us up.

And then the next thing we were on the World Book and then

list.

And it was all, we're going to read these books and we're all going to be self-educated.

We're going to be.

we did didn't we read encyclopedias?

Yes, we did.

That was letter D.

What would you do now if you did that in our decline?

Somebody would say, well, well, who says that Plato should be read?

He was a white male.

So you can't do anything today.

And

all the pictures of statues in those books, those statues have been torn down probably.

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And I was watching, what was I watching?

Oh, a clip on Rumble about CNN, kind of shocked.

Oh, my God, look at these survey, these numbers on Hispanic voters.

So the breakdown was that at this time of year in 2020,

Biden v.

Trump, Biden,

among Hispanic voters, 59% to Trump's 32.

So that's a pretty significant, that's a 27-point spread.

Well, now in 2024, same time period,

Biden is down to 51 and Trump is up to 44.

That's a 20-point swing among Hispanic voters.

uh to Trump.

But I want to ask you something, because I don't understand this.

So

this is all recent, or is it?

Because there has to be one of two or three exegesis.

Because

somewhere around January or February, when the indictments became news

and the primaries were de facto over with, people had said

that DeSantis would not be able to beat Trump.

nor would Haley because Trump was gaining the empathy vote.

Remember that?

And that is among the Republican voters.

But

they also said that an added draw to the new Trump reboot,

that's kind of a repetition.

I'm sounding like Camilla Harris new reboot.

But to the Trump reboot was that he was now polling dead even with Biden.

And he was.

And for the first time.

Now, what I'm getting at is, did this happen then?

And that explains why he's polling dead even?

Or was he polling dead even

because of bringing back his base or winning more independence or disaffected Democrats?

And then in the subsequent six months, we've heard just what you quoted, that he's making enormous inroads with Latinos in the 40s, sometimes some say 47%.

And black males, up to 20, over 20%,

black females, 13 or 14%.

percent.

Young people, as you know,

you know, up to 45, 45.

There's a Quinnipiac poll out that has Trump ahead of Biden

among 18 to 34.

So here's my question.

Given all of this recent worry and panic on the Democrat that they're losing their traditional constituencies to Trump, And given that he was dead even in January and February before we heard this, why do these national polls not show him four or five, six points ahead?

They don't.

They show him dead even.

So the only thing I can think of is that these margins of new constituents show up mostly in the swing states.

And by that, I mean he's now five points ahead in Nevada, and that seems to be service workers, many of them Latinos.

He's ahead in Arizona by five.

Same thing, Latino voters.

Right, Latino heavy, right, relative to the other swing states.

He's ahead in six, I think, in Georgia.

A lot of black voters.

He's doing well in Minnesota compared to, I mean, three points behind, Maine, three or four points behind.

So maybe...

Virginia?

Virginia's dead even?

Are we talking about constituencies that are showing up in swing states, but maybe...

not nationally.

I don't know.

But there's something weird about it that

every night, if you turn on Fox, there's a poll, an exuberant poll, that Trump has cut away at Biden's critical base.

But when you go back and look at the real clear politics of Biden versus Trump in January, February, March, April,

it hasn't changed much is what I'm getting at.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

The big change came in January, February, when he caught up to Biden.

He was behind by three or four points nationally, not that it matters.

So I don't know what's going on.

Either the polls are inaccurate on the national level, or we're talking about particular enclaves of voters in these different groups.

I don't know what it is.

But if you look at the Electoral College, he's way ahead of likely states he can win.

Trump is returning.

Yeah.

I think everybody, just as an aside, I think

if you look at the Russian collusion hoax, the laptop disinformation hoax,

the whole COVID

was caused by a bat.

Quarantines are going to save lives.

mRNA vaccinations are bulletproof against being infected or infectious.

January 6th was an armed revolution planned in advance to overthrow the government.

All of those conspiracy hysterias,

they have something to it which might be instructive to look out for.

They all involve government agencies.

It was Comey and the collusion and the FBI.

They paid Christopher Steele, they hired him.

In the Russian disinformation, it was 51 former intelligence authorities.

They all had contact stacked with the FBI.

They could have just called, they did call and know that the FBI had had it in their possession and that it was authentic.

So

they deliberately either didn't want to know that or they didn't want to publicize it.

But that was a CIA project.

And

the same thing with Fauci.

We understand now that government officials like Fauci,

like Peter Dasek, who was getting government grants, and Francis Kahl, they were actively trying to suppress the origins of the COVID virus and actively pushing for quarantines, masking, social distancing, even though they didn't have scientific support for that.

At least in the sense of mass application of it.

And January 6th, we know that they did not want normal Republicans on that committee.

the January 6th committee.

They did not bring in full testimonies from other people.

They suppressed testimonies.

They suppressed release of information.

No one would accurately tell us how many FBI informants were there.

No one would tell us exactly who made the decision in the Capitol Police or Nancy Pelosi not to bring in preventive prophylactic shows of forces to stop a riot.

They were all government agencies in that.

We all know that the media contributed to every single one of them.

They were the ones that really tried to get the Russian collusion before the 2016 election.

The disinformation was designed for Biden and his debate in 2020.

The Fauci stuff was really used as a weapon against Donald Trump to shut down the economy and to say that he had screwed up

and to say, to protect China from Donald Trump's wrath by saying that China had nothing to do with it in the sense of actively from a

lab.

And of course, the media turned that buffoonish riot into a civil war as if Washington was being

attacked by a general from the Confederacy.

And then, you know, none of them ever paid a price for that.

None of them did.

Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Lisa Page.

A lot of them got lucrative book deals and lucrative spots.

Fauci never paid a price.

He lied under oath and said he had never subsidized gain of function research that didn't exist as far as he knew in the United States.

I mean, outside of the United States that he had a hand in.

And no need to go into Western disinformation.

Has any of the 51 intelligence authorities apologized?

I don't think one has,

that lied to the American people and maybe affected an election, as a poll had shown.

So my point is

that

they all were projecting, too,

they were using Russian sources and Christopher Steele to warp an election and blame Trump for doing that.

They were rounding up in conspiratorial fashion

51 people

on the prompt of Anthony Blinken and then they blamed Trump that he had a conspiracy to get the laptop, etc.

And it was Russia.

He worked with the Russians and they created a fake laptop that was disinformation.

But that's what they were doing.

They were conspiring to lie to the American people to warp an election.

And the same thing with Fauci.

They were making fun of people who were advocating hydroxychlorine or they say the bat didn't have anything to do.

They were making fun of everybody.

But

that was a conspiracy to promote false narratives.

And so what I'm getting at is I think they feel that it all worked.

If you think about it, it all worked in a way.

Maybe it didn't stop Trump in 2016, but it sure destroyed his administration for a year and a half under the Mueller investigation.

That kind of stuff does work sometimes.

It does.

The laptop worked.

Absolutely.

The laptop worked.

Biden won.

Fauci got what he wanted.

They shut down the economy.

They destroyed the economy.

They made sure that Trump was blamed for it, and he didn't get elected.

They made everybody go stark raving mad after the George Floyd, that they were cooped up for a year.

And

they sure, the insurrection, insurrection, insurrection, insurrection worked.

It really damaged the Republican label.

They hadn't even recovered by the midterms of 2022.

And that got old Joe Biden some traction for the first year of his administration until the Kabul fiasco.

So my point is this, Wendy point.

My point is this.

They're going to do it again from now until the election.

They're going to come up with some projectionist conspiracy, something that they do.

They're going to blame an October surprise, we could call it, maybe an Access Hollywood, remember that, or the laptop disinformation.

It'll be something, or George Bush got a drunken driver's conviction.

That came out right before the election.

But they're going to do something.

It's going to be probably they're going to have a conspiracy theory, something like...

Donald Trump has a plan to put all of his opponents in camps, like AOC is alleging now or people on the view.

But there's going to be something like that.

They're going to try to have some kind of conspiracy that has worked because it's worked in both prior elections.

Disinformation worked and collusion sort of worked.

At least it destroyed the first, I think it did, the first year of the year.

And they were going to arrest all abortionists, you know, something.

Something like massive right-wing abortion conspiracy or

Supreme Court found to have illicit conversations with Trump to rule in favor of disputed, you know what I mean?

Something like that.

And everybody should be prepared for it and be ready to reply back to them because they think it works and it does.

And they get this deep state, the administrative state, the FBI, the CIA, the DOJ, you name it, they get them to work with the media to advance something.

that is going to shock you right before the voting starts

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So, Victor, the aforementioned headwinds, there was a really interesting piece in the Daily Mail the other day that they did a snap poll right after the

Hunter Biden conviction on the gun charges,

trying to see what is the possible political fallout of this,

and

500 likely voters.

So it's not a big poll, but it's still nevertheless interesting.

When likely voters were asked if it affected, this is the conviction, if the conviction affected their view of Joe Biden, the results suggest a seven-point negative impact for the Democratic candidate in the election.

In contrast, Trump saw a six-point bump in the equivalent question.

So anyway, there's a lot more here.

I'm not going to read it, but

the thought that Donald Trump's conviction would harm Donald Trump, I think has

not really played out as the plotters have planned.

But the conviction of

Hunter Biden is going to impact Joe Biden or may.

There's some evidence here.

Anyway, Victor, anything?

I think it reflects the sophistication of the American citizen.

They were able to distinguish them.

They were able to say that no one has ever been charged with these crimes before.

When a politician calls a registrar and says, I know I've got votes out there, you've got to find them, they don't go to jail.

or they're not threatened with jail.

When somebody files a real estate assessment form, he doesn't be charged for that.

Somebody doesn't change the statute of limitations to allow somebody 30 plus years in your past who can't remember when she was harassed or assaulted and then given a window of one year to file those charges.

It's a bill of attainder.

So I could go on, but that's not true of, it's just the opposite.

They had a sweetheart deal under David Weiss to basically exempt him from tax exposure.

And some of the tax exposure has been exempted, the big bills he owed, and from the gun.

And that collapsed, not because

they were incompetent, they were good at what they did, because an honest judge said, this is ridiculous.

Now you go back and charge him with what you charge other people who did that.

And everybody knows that in the other cases, the judges were prejudicial.

This judge wasn't that started the ball.

He just said, just treat him like anybody else.

The other thing is,

Donald Trump, they thought they were going to get lurid, you know, lurid behavior, and they got all that in, yes, and they thought that was really going to damage

his character.

And they got him on the, I mean, I'm not going to get into the veracity of Stormy Daniels' charges, but it was, if it were true, it was an illicit

sexual encounter.

But there was no drugs, there's no alcohol, there's no abandonment.

Donald Trump is not calling up the widow of his brother and getting her hooked in a romantic relationship.

So the lurid stuff at Hunter Biden really was of a much more comprehensive nature.

If that stuff does affect jury, they were repulsed by all of that.

And there was a sense also

that Hunter Biden had been a beneficiary of the fact his father was president until they blew the whistle, as I said.

There was a sense that Donald Trump had been a victim of being a president and being a presidential candidate.

In other words, that people had used this to go after him in a lawfare manner, whereas in the case of Hunter, if they did go after him, it was to rectify the fact that he had been given exculpatory amnesty or something like that by the government.

So there were enough differences that people could make a distinction.

And

I think

it's going to hurt Biden more because it plays into the general theme that the entire Biden consortium is corrupt.

Right.

Frank Biden, Jim Biden, Joe Biden, the kids are corrupt, Hunter Biden, all of them.

And he's going to be on the stand, I think, in September in Los Angeles.

And that's another friendly Biden era.

But when you get into tax law, it's not so, it's kind of

the other thing about it was

that I don't know why they even contested it.

It was just a simple case.

A, he filed a form.

B, did he lie on it?

C, if he lied on a federal form, he's guilty.

And he did.

Everybody knows he did.

They said, well, he may have not known or might have been somebody else, but the person who gave him the form saw him do it.

He never denied that he didn't do it, said he couldn't remember.

Trumps were all, I mean, they were all debatable.

It was all crazy.

It was fluid.

No one ever said, Donald Trump, we know, we know, we know that Mar-Lago was

worthless and you overvalued it and you did that to deceive.

Nobody ever proved that.

Nobody ever said to Alvin Bragg, no, Alvin Bragg never said, I'm going to bootstrap this misdemeanor to a felony.

And here exactly is the felony that you committed.

They didn't happen.

And E.

Jean Curroll never said, on this particular date, I was treated this way, and this is the person that I talked about.

And these are the last 20 years, the things I wrote about.

And here's the corroborate.

No, nothing.

And so

that's, and then, of course, the final element.

There was no, in this,

if the prosecutors in the Hunter Biden case, right,

if they had behaved and the judge in the way that

Judge N.

Garon, right,

or the judge in the

Fannie Willis, that was Ingeron, wasn't it, Fanny Willis, the Bragg judge,

or we had anybody like Halvin Bragg or Fanny Willis or Letita James as the prosecutors, any of them, or even Jack Smith.

No, we didn't.

So there was no distractions that this was.

These were incompetence, that were highly politicized, that ran campaigns to get Hunter.

If you had a DA who had said, I'm going to get Hunter Biden, you elect me as a Delaware state attorney or county attorney, I promise you that I won't let this corrupt Biden family get off.

Well, that would have been all over

MSNBC and CNN.

Oh, wow, look, it's a political prosecutor.

And then if the judge had been smirking and he'd been, you know, hamming it up or he threw everybody out of the courtroom like these judges did, it would have been different.

But it was

straight down the middle.

And there were no complaints about the defense even, about the conduct of the prosecutors or the judge, not because they were not capable of it, that is the complaining, but there was nothing to complain about.

And so I think it did hurt Biden.

I think that the tax thing will be just, you know, when you deal with the IRS, it's not debatable.

It's, did you file your tax returns on this date when it was due?

Yes or no?

Did you pay the full amount that you were asked?

Yes or no?

Did you pay a fine if you were late?

Yes or no.

Is this deduction legal?

There's a little bit of territory and argumentation there, but I don't think that's what this case is about.

It's not about whether some of his

deductions, it's about whether he even filed.

Hiding income.

Yeah, he was hiding income.

That is an open and shut case.

And that gets people very angry because it's a voluntary system.

So you're going to get some people in that jury who get hit hard with income taxes and they pay them.

And you know what else has done?

This has ended, ended, ended.

Joe Biden going around the country.

He'll never be able to do this.

It's about time the people enrich fat cat, they pay their fair share, pay their fair share.

No, he can't do that.

People are going to shout, you tell your son first to pay his fair share before you lecture me.

What else has ended?

And to go, we got to, we got to get gun laws and we got laws and everybody's got guns and we've got to clamp down.

No, we have laws.

It's people like your son who break them.

And they do stupid things like

take drugs with loaded guns.

And then they have their girlfriend,

liaison, paramour, whatever you want to call it, that takes a gun and throws it into a dumpster.

So just follow the law, Joe.

If your family will just follow the law, you shouldn't need to lecture other people.

So that's why it hurts him.

Yeah.

It's the hypocrisy.

And I think he's going to be hurt a lot by the income tax case.

Your lips to God's ears.

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Victor, I'm reading an article from a couple weeks ago on National Review.

We weren't able to get to this in recent few recordings.

But this is about a Texas doctor, Ethan Hame,

little-known surgeon who exposed Texas Children's Hospital for secretly conducting transgender surgeries and treatments on minors.

He's been charged with four felony counts related to his alleged violation of medical records law.

Last year, Haim anonymously leaked evidence of the child sex change procedures.

He did that to Chris Ruffo, the conservative journalist.

The documents revealed that Texas Children's Hospital had continued running its transgender program despite announcing that the program had been discontinued in accordance with Governor Greg Abbott's 2022 directive equating such medical interventions with child abuse.

So, this guy, this doctor, seeing child abuse, and that's what it is, seeing the hospital lie.

He

releases information.

I think when he did it, Victor, there were no names, they were blacked out, etc.

But what is Merrick Garland's Department of Justice doing?

They're charging this whistleblower.

Any thoughts, Victor, as we close out today's episode?

I don't understand this.

I don't, because the left always told us that big pharma pushed down our throats very dangerous drugs, and some of them had no use for young people.

Whatever you think about transgender or sexual reassignment surgery, They are using very, very powerful drugs at a very early age when people are inflicted, not just just about their gender identity but a whole number of issues.

And we know that there's a big discussion that has nothing to do with transgenderism, whether kids that are depressed or to what degree they should be on powerful antidepressants.

There's an argument for it, there's an argument against it, but at least there's an argument that young, vulnerable people, we have to be very, very careful when we use drugs that might be in the optional.

In other words, they're not essential chemotherapic or cardio drugs that will save them if we don't use them, will kill them if we don't use them, save them if we don't, whatever.

They're existential.

But these aren't.

And it's so funny for the left to say, so promiscuously to just to green light these very dangerous surgeries.

And,

you know,

I was growing, when I grew up, Jack, remember the big discussion and outrage from the left about castration for rape and sexual assault by prisoners?

Right.

And

they banned physical castration, and there was something called chemical castration.

But it was always, this is one of the most inhumane things you could do.

I'm sure they do it in some states.

But how dare you use certain chemicals on people?

And yet.

When it comes to sexuality, the left just throws out all of their prior cautions and without any,

I don't know, prior reason.

We don't have any idea what the long-term effects of these kids, 10, 11, 12, is going to be when they're 40, 50, 60 about taking these very dangerous drugs and suppression of hormones and then the surgeries and the cells.

And we know there is a percentage of people who regret it.

And then the idea that somebody had legitimate

objections and was worried about what I just said, and then you would go out and prosecute them at a time when you wouldn't even do that to violent criminals.

You let, you know, you let people, 14,000 people arrested, you let go who destroyed the country in 2020.

So,

the sooner this administration is out, the better, because it is the most dangerous administration we've ever had.

We've never had a government in modern memory, at least, that used these

offices of the DOJ to selectively go out and attack people who disagreed with Joe Biden's apparatus on abortion, on transgendered sexual reassignment surgeries, on DEI,

on the border, you name it.

It's not enough that they just oppose you legislatively or executively.

They use the courts to go out and create deterrence.

And their message is this.

If you're on our side

and you're out there destroying the statue of Lafayette,

or if you're going to a cemetery in L.A.

and defacing a veteran cemetery on behalf of Justice for Gaza,

or if you're going into a subway car and selecting out Jews who you are threatening to get off, we're not going to do anything to you.

But

you go to an abortion clinic and you start to peacefully protest, or

come forward with documents that suggest that this is a dangerous thing, sexuals, we're going to go after you and you're going to regret it.

And that's what they're doing.

And this brings up finally, Jack, this question that's been in the news about

what is Trump to do if he were to be elected.

Somebody I have a great admiration for is John Yoo.

He's not a firebrand at all, but he's been writing a series of articles that basically says:

yes, there's a danger of tit for tat, but unless you

bring

charges against criminal exposure on their part, not invent them, but to react to it, you're never going to

achieve an equilibrium.

They will not stop.

They will not stop.

And I think what he means by that is you're going to have to throw people in jail

for a long, long time that conspire across state lines to chase Jews down.

If they would just take 15 of these students

who have broken in and committed felonies or have conspired across state lines to commit felonies or who have chased Jews and you convicted them of a hate crime and burglary and vandalism and assault and you look at the felon.

the felony exposure there of five years and then you sentence them like they did the January 6th people to five years, they won't do it.

It would stop.

And if you said, if Trump came in and he said, if you are a student

on a student visa and you are expelled from the university or you commit a crime, we are going to deport you after your hearing.

Very quickly, they would disappear.

It would disappear.

And if he said, if you come across our border illegally,

You are going to be not only fined and detained, you're going to be permanently barred from the United States.

No

recourse for legal entry again.

You're done.

That's it.

Then they would stop.

And until that happens, I don't think they're going to learn.

I really don't.

And I think they need to go after the Biden family.

As soon as he's elected, he needs to get a special prosecutor.

And he needs to get a tough special prosecutor.

and say, you know what, I want you to go through the whole tax records.

That's where the liability is and the taxes.

Did the big guy report his 10%?

Or did he just try to claim it was a loan loan and et cetera, repayment and stuff?

So that's what I think has to be done.

You don't want to go on a jihad.

You don't want to make up things, but you have to enforce the law symmetrically.

And I think if you do that,

the left will stop.

And if you have once in a while

a firebrand from Oklahoma, I'm not trying to pick out states based on culture, just the degree of redness or conservatism.

Well,

they pick out states to be venues to prosecute.

Exactly.

But if you pick out a, let's say,

you take an attorney general from Oklahoma and he just says, you know what, I don't think we should have Joe Biden on the ballot.

And I don't think we should have him in Texas and Utah.

Just see what they say.

Just see what they say.

Or, you know what?

If you just have one senator stand up and say, you know, I've been thinking about 15 court justices.

Now that Donald Trump is elected, you guys are right.

We need six more Supreme Justices if they have the Senate.

See what they say.

Another person should stand up and say, you know what?

You guys were right about abolishing the filibuster when you have the majority.

Now that we do, it's a great idea.

We're going to abolish it.

Or,

you know what, when you wanted to bring in Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C.

and get four senators, maybe we just better slice Oregon and Washington into West Oregon and East Oregon, West Washington, Eastern Oregon, Northern California, and we'll get some more senators.

How's that?

Is that what you want to do?

And see what they say.

Because I don't think they'd learn on any other way.

Victor, I have to read this.

We should close out here, but two different headlines about what John Yu is saying.

And by the way, folks,

John Yu is Y-O-O.

He is terrific.

John's just one of the greatest guys.

So

real clear politics headline.

He goes, John Yu, colon, Red State DAs indicting Democrats is the only way to get them to stop breaking the norms.

Okay, that's that headline.

But the New York magazine headline, Bush torture lawyer John Yu calls for revenge prosecution against Democrats.

I love our media.

Yeah,

they always give the game away.

They're always, whenever a Republican tries to do something,

They always say Republicans seize on, they seize on, or they do something like that.

And that's because they know they have a lot of exposure and culpability.

And I'd like to see it happen.

I really would.

I'd like to see somebody say, you know what?

Fanny Willis, special prosecutor, Georgia should get a special prosecutor after the election.

Say Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade lied under oath.

They lied under oath about the terms of their...

illicit relationship, about the money that was transacted.

They have no proof that she ever repaid him for these quid pro quo services.

No proof.

And

see what happens.

Especially the laws of the court.

Just barment

and just go through it all and hope that you can convict her.

And then if you don't convict her, you'd say, I'm sorry, Fanny.

I'm sorry for your legal mess, but you didn't have to pay

half a billion dollars like Donald Trump and fines and legal expenses.

And they should say the same thing for Alvin Bragg about prosecutorial misconduct.

They should do it.

Letita James, too.

See what happens.

See how they like it.

And

find a way to bring it in a red state.

Yeah.

And then after about a year of it, say, do you really want this?

Do you really want this?

Yeah.

One or two or three examples, because you're right.

I don't think we have the long-term stomach for nobody has a stomach for it.

It's repulsive.

What's happened to the country?

It's repulsive.

We want to return to something called normal, right?

Yes, we do.

And how do you do it?

You have to tell the left to behave.

And Nancy Pelosi the other day said, Donald Trump is running a cult.

It's a cult.

The Republican Party.

It's just a cult.

He's a thug.

And I'm thinking, again, compare your party where it was with Bill Clinton to now and compare George W.

Bush.

to Donald Trump.

And I will guarantee you, issue by issue, the Donald Trump mega agenda is about 90% of the Bush administration's agenda.

And the Democratic agenda has nothing in common.

Nothing.

Whether it's defunding the police or letting people come in illegally or the whole, there's not going to be a sister soldier lecture

from anybody in the Democratic Party.

There's not going to be 100,000 police officers.

There's not going to be school uniforms.

There's not going to be any of that.

None.

There's not going to be any talk about balancing the budget, any of that from this Democratic Party.

This is the Obama Party on steroids.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, it's come to its natural place.

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