The Genesis of Protests, Pandemics, and Good Journalism

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In this episode, Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Sami Winc discuss the Israel-Gaza war and pro-Palestinian protestors, US taxpayers funding gain-of-function research, why cold water is now healthy, Chief's kicker celebrates motherhood, and Justice Alito wrongly accused by the Left, and Rufo, Kelly and Berenson, the best of journalism.

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Well, Victor, there's a lot going on

internationally, and I was especially with the Israel-Gaza war.

If I could read off a few of the current things that are happening, they found in Rafah 700 tunnels and 50 of them going into Egypt.

Egypt?

I thought Egypt said that they couldn't let anybody into Gaza.

Apparently,

they've been playing such a double game, condemning Israel.

And when the whole time that they've been greenlighting arming Hamas by those tunnels, they could stop them tomorrow.

Yeah.

Well, there's also in the United States,

Joe Biden apparently is keeping intelligence from Israel, and you know that he's trying to keep keep that aid from Israel as well.

But the House is passing a bill to block Biden from withholding aid from Israel.

And maybe it'll already have been done by this Thursday episode.

He keeps saying on Mondays he says, I'm standing with Israel.

I've given more money.

On Tuesday, it says, we're not going to give you the latest delivery of artillery shells

and patriot replacement.

Wednesday, it's, I'm going to be new.

He goes, he doesn't understand that when you try to pander to all sides, you pander to nobody.

And he is alienating the Jewish American and donor vote.

He's alienated the Arab Americans.

And he should just decide what he wants to do.

But we know what he wants to do because he doesn't,

he's not in control of his own destiny.

It's the Obamas, the Valerie Jarretts, the Susan Rice, the Samantha Powers, the Jake, all those Obamaites are running this.

And they have a bankrupt image of a Middle East where Iran is finally inheriting its historical place of preeminence, i.e.

Darius Xerxes, the poor-persecuted Shia, the poor-persecuted Persians,

and the oppressive Sunni Arabs.

And in that dichotomy, it's time to balance the scales and level the playing field and promote Damascus.

Tehran, Beirut, Gaza.

And that's what they're doing.

They know why the Houthis are doing what they do.

They know why Hezbollah.

They know why Hamas.

And they are terrified of Israel.

If Israel destroys Hamas,

and they can,

if they get sufficient weapons and they just go do it, in fact, they should have done it two months ago.

Yeah, isn't the intelligence that they're keeping from them the main Hamas guys?

Yes, Senor, whatever his name is?

Exactly.

The worst thing about this is,

if this this is true, and it came out of the Washington Post,

if this is true, it means that these Hamas people are holding American hostages.

And the President of the American Nation will not divulge information about the location of the hostage takers to the only power entity in the region that can save them.

So they are making a decision that we don't really care about Americans.

They are.

It's nightmares of Benghazi again when we had the ability to send troops to save our people who were defending the CIA annex and the embassy and we didn't do it.

Four people got killed.

It's the same leftist idea in Afghanistan.

13 get killed.

They don't care about the actual Americans on the ground.

They don't.

They would much rather appease international opinion or the Arab community or the Middle East.

They do not care about.

That should be the only thing they're worried worried about, the lives and

safety of Americans.

And they won't do it, much less Israelis.

Yeah, and isn't Joe Biden...

Wasn't Donald Trump impeached because he didn't give aid to Ukraine when it was allotted to his family?

His beautiful phone call.

Remember his beautiful phone call?

It was a beautiful phone call.

He called up and he talked to Zelensky, and he said, look,

Joe Biden fired Victor Sulkin.

He was the prosecutor looking into barisma.

No,

and I've got millions of dollars of offensive weapons.

Obama didn't give it to you.

I did.

Congress passed it.

Okay, it's coming.

I'm not canceling it.

I just want to put a hold into it.

You can assure me that your country is not corrupt and you're not in league with the Biden family and paying his son $80,000 a month and you are firing prosecutors based on the Biden intruder.

Everything he said was true.

And they impeach him because they said

Joe Biden is his likely.

This was in 2019 when it started.

They impeached him in 2020, but Biden wasn't really a declared candidate.

But

Biden is the likely candidate, and therefore he was using

American-approved aid.

He didn't cancel it, suspending it.

for political purposes.

And what is Joe Biden doing?

This aid is canceled.

He's not going to give it to them.

And why is he doing that?

Is it because suddenly in what?

It started in October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, after eight months of fighting, he decides, oh my gosh, I've decided that they can't.

No, it's because we're coming into the apex of the campaign season and he's worried about the Arab American vote in Michigan.

So for his own political purposes, he's suspending legislatively, congressionally approved aid.

That's exactly what they impeached Donald Trump for.

If the House had five more members, if these House members hadn't have quit, I don't know why they did that.

Gallagher, Buck, Kevin McCarthy, if they had just stayed in their elected posts, they could have impeached him.

And they should have,

given the precedent that was.

And then they should say, we don't want to do this, and we'll never do it again.

But you have to learn that when you impeach a president for suspending aid with legitimate worries about political corruption, then we're going to do the same thing.

Because this is corrupt, for Joe Biden to make a decision on help to our strongest ally based on his political calculus in the next election.

Yes.

And

the idea that

We have this intelligence and we have better intelligence.

Everybody talks about the, but we have more money than the the IDF and the Mossad and all the Shinbe and all those intelligence agencies.

And we have pressure that Israel cannot apply on Ghadr and Beirut and Turkey.

And

we get a lot of information, and we're not sharing it with our oldest ally.

So basically, we're pro-Hamas by default.

We're allowing this Hamas mass murder to what?

Continue to thrive in this tunnel complex?

Wouldn't it be in our interest to say to the Israelis, would you please take care of this person so we don't have to?

Because he hates America.

He took American hostages.

And wouldn't it be in our, and if they got rid of Hamas, then they could turn their attention to Hezbollah.

And they could say, look, if you're going to displace 100,000 Israelis from the border, we cannot guarantee that Beirut, which is a sanctuary arsenal of your rockets that are toward our airspace, we cannot guarantee it won't end up like 2006.

And they could stop it.

But it it's so bizarre to see an administration

that is so ideological that it it actually acts contrary to the interest of the United States, much less Israel.

Yeah, it sure is.

Well, related to that are the campus protests.

And recently, news has come out that they are

because everybody's saying follow the money so who's funding these pro-Palestinian protests and so lots of information is coming out about that and apparently many of Biden's biggest donors Soros Rockefeller Pritzker are funding that that's according to a politico analysis

these are they do it stealthily through their

foundations, humanitarian nonprofits supposedly.

Yeah, they are.

But the the whole left is pro-Hamas.

So

even foundations that are not ostensibly connected with the Middle East, they give money to people who are.

And

I don't know what motivates these people.

I don't think it's social justice because Hamas is a fascistic, murderous clique.

Why would you give any money to anybody who supports it?

You see that thing, that fellow that was killed down in Los Angeles, Kessler, the Jewish American, and the part-time lecturer at Cal State,

hit him with a bullhorn, and he denied he did it.

And now the autopsy report showed there was DNA from the bullhorn on the person's face, and he had contusions consistent with being struck, and then he fell on the ground and died.

Maybe, maybe not

the blow

killed him, but it's not in dispute that

the blow from the bullhorn caused him to fall, which killed him.

So it's involuntary manslaughter, and he's being tried for it.

And they denied that.

They denied that.

They showed that tape the other day.

Did you hear what they said when he was in the ambulance?

Hitler loves you or something.

Hitler.

No, Hitler hated you.

They hated you or something like that.

This was a professor who was yelling that after he struck him.

Yeah.

So, I mean, as I keep saying, all of the fake

firewalls between, oh, I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm just anti-Israel, oh, I'm not pro-Hamas, I'm just pro-Hazam, they're all gone now.

They're open about it.

And when you see these students with these masks, ask yourself who in history or who in contemporary life wears mask.

It's not for health reasons,

even though they try to put little COVID masks as if it is.

Well, we know the Klan does.

We know that what bank robbers do.

We know that Antifa does.

So why do they all have, what do they all have in common?

They all commit crimes and they do not want to be identified by law enforcement.

That's why you wear a mask.

Number two, when you're anonymous,

it's kind of like in high school when there's a bunch of people around you and somebody...

I've watched this, and I limit to really tough high school, but I've watched some bully hit somebody.

And when everybody gets jazzed up, it's like throwing a piece of meat to a bunch of dogs, and then they would come in and kick them.

I've seen people knock a person down

10 times in high school, and then everybody got so jazzed up, they started kicking them.

And then I've seen a teacher break that up, and they tore the

sport coat off his back.

And so the mass serves then as a way of

bringing out the worst in both

what you do and what you say.

And

there's no accountability.

You just say that I'm not going to be stereotyped as a vicious bully, anti-Semite, racist, da-da-da, by having my

persona or my identification revealed.

So I'm going to be hide behind it, and that's going to rev me up even more.

And that's what it does.

It revs everybody up because there's no consequences.

Nobody knows who it is.

It's kind of like a Star Chamber court, you know, or during the Inquisition when everybody had mask on and they were sitting above somebody and no one knew who the judges were.

It wasn't because they were trying to avoid themselves being prosecuted because they were exempt.

It was because when they had the mask on, they were much more emboldened.

And that's what happens with people.

It's just like at a...

New Year's party when people put on masks, they act out of character because they can do anything.

Or you see those, what was the movie with 50 Shades, or what was it with Tom Cruise when they went to

Eyes Wide Open?

Was that Stanny Kubrick's last movie?

Where they put masks on and then they indulge in sexual acts that they wouldn't otherwise.

And so that's what it's about.

It's emboldening people to do things and rev up the entire crowd in hate and then also to protect them from indictment or arrest.

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So Victor, the COVID lab origin thesis has come back into the news.

A recent

National Institute of Health,

he's a, I think, a deputy director, Lawrence Tabak,

has finally talked about U.S.

taxpayers were paying for gain of function research in Wuhan.

And we know that the lab was the origin of the virus.

But he said strange things that this is done throughout gain of function research is done throughout labs in the United States and it, quote, poses no threat of harm to anybody.

Isn't that amazing that here you have the deputy to

Fauci,

National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and NIH, all of them, right?

And he comes before Congress, just as Francis Collins and Redford,

the two prior directors of the CDC, right?

They've said now that it was man-made.

And

he admits that there was gain of function research subsidized via EchoHealth.

And is there anybody now who believes that the Wuhan lab was not responsible for the birth of COVID?

Everybody does.

Everybody does.

There's no pangolin or bat thesis, even though they demonized everybody.

And as I said, I wrote that at the very beginning, and the Stanford Alumni Association person wrote me and threatened me, basically, and said,

He wrote to the alumni station.

I should say, I have to correct myself, the Alumni Association passed on that complaint to me.

You're not a doctor, you have no idea.

I'm not a doctor, but I'm not stupid either.

When you have a level four lab run by the PLA right there next to the first cases of COVID, and you can't find a single case of anyone getting COVID from an animal, a bat or a pong, before a human did.

What do you think?

And why would you think that the Chinese destroyed all the records and disappeared people who could have testified?

That's prima facie proof.

So my point is that this person finally says the incredible.

He's to be commended that he admits that we illegally, I think it's illegal because it was illegal in the United States.

If it's illegal in the United United States, why is the United States bureaucracy giving money to conduct the things that we don't want to be conducted?

And they're doing it, so apparently they think that the Chinese can be trusted and they're finding out great things about bioweapons and therefore they'll give it to us.

There's a Pentagon, I guess there must be a Pentagon interest in all this.

Why would you do it?

To make a better vaccine?

That's what they claim.

I don't think so.

So anyway, the point is he admits this, but then he says there's nothing wrong with it.

It's safe.

It's so safe that we outlawed it the United States.

It's so safe that it broke out of the law and killed a million Americans, but it's perfectly safe.

What an idiot.

And this whole,

I mean, the whole Fauci cult now, bobblehead Fauci and all that, it's just in ruins.

It's in ruins.

And all the people who warned us about him, Scott Atlas, Jay Pacharya, John Ioannidis, Martin Kulendor, all of them were right.

And they all were demonized and attacked for it.

And nobody has issued them an apology.

And they were absolutely right that this thing

was a manufactured foreign-imported virus under dubious circumstances.

And

it was not going to be put down by vaccination alone.

It would have to peter out through natural herd immunity, partly achieved by vaccination, partly by prior infection.

And just saying that made you persona non grata.

And Fauci,

we know now he lied.

He lied to Rand Paul under oath when he said that we were not subsidizing gain of function research.

His own deputy has now testified that they did.

He lied in his earlier correspondence that he was not aware of this.

Remember, almost from the beginning he heard about that.

He was exchanging fast and furiously all of these emails with other heads of bureaucratic health departments in the U.S.

government to keep this quiet.

And we're supposed to believe him.

It just brings, you know, it brings into question all the things they tell us that we have to do now, that we have to do.

And the government says, you've got it, the mRNA vaccination.

I took two.

But the more you read about boosters, the more you read about just bizarre things about them, That it spikes the PSA count in men

from, I guess, from inflammation and immune response, that it can give false readings of cyst in women's ovaries and breast.

That for young men it increases the chance of cardio swelling.

And I'm not saying that it's, I'm not going to be a vaccination denialist, but It's a legitimate topic to discuss the cost to benefit

analysis of vaccinating everybody with what is basically genetic engineering.

Further, as we go further into the epidemic, when people have various natural immunities.

So

I think everybody doesn't trust these people anymore.

And

this follows, we were told again and again and again that Vladimir Putin interfered with the 2000s.

No one believes that.

No one believes that.

No one believes that Putin interfered in the 2016 election, at least to the extent that it was directly aimed at helping Donald Trump.

There was some interference in the election, and it was conducted by Hillary Clinton.

She had the ambassador to

the Ukrainian ambassador to the United States write an op-ed about the dangers if Donald Trump was to be elected.

She used Christopher Steele and Dashenko to get sources from Russian propagandists to help compile

the Steele dossier, then projected that all onto Trump.

Does anybody believe the ex-CIA people anymore?

51 intelligence.

Did you see that comment they're playing now of Biden when he, that first debate?

Three days before the first debate, they thought, uh-oh,

this laptop is very incriminating.

It has everything in it.

Nudie, pictures, email, racism, corruption.

Trump's going to bring it up.

What are we going to do?

Ah, Blinken.

I want to be Secretary of State, Joe.

How can I earn my Secretary?

Well,

solve the problem, Anthony.

So he calls Mike Morrell, the

former interim director of the CIA.

Can you round up people really quick?

We got a debate coming up.

We need a letter out there.

We need a big lie that says it has all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation.

We have to have a little qualifier.

We won't say it is Russian disinformation because we know it isn't and we need an out so they don't call us liars.

So it has all the hallmarks.

And then Joe can lie.

And that's what they did.

And Joe gets up there and he says, Don't, you should be ashamed of yours.

We've never taken any money.

And 51 intelligence authorities have sworn in a letter that it's Russian disinformation.

Their laptop is not authentic.

And now

Hunter played by that joke, you remember, for a a year and says, how dare you say it's authentic?

But if it was authentic,

it's libelous what he said about it.

But I'm not saying it is.

And then the diary is the same thing, Ashley Biden's diary.

They said,

if there were a diary, we're not saying there was, and

I left it and abandoned it in my apartment and I lost it and somebody found it and peddled it, that is wrong, and I'm suing them and you should prosecute.

But I'm not saying it is.

It could have been a fake one.

And now it's

her lawyer said, Well, if we're going to get some money out of it and you're going to get the person jailed, you've got to say, Now, oh, it's authentic.

I really did write in my diary that I thought that I took showers with my father too long into puberty, and I had some sexual incidents in my, and I think it was correlated.

And I

so there you go.

There you go.

So, the dossier,

the laptop, Fauci, all of them have one thing in common.

We have the entitled class with letters after their name, titles.

I'm Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Biology and Infectious Diseases.

So what?

You're a liar.

It doesn't matter.

You can get a guy out at Infresno who I know who can come in and do a beautiful job wiring my house, and he'll never lie to me.

You do.

And so that's what gets me so angry.

We're supposed to listen to all these lies because because we're told, they're all arguments from authority.

Yeah.

Or that Readley worker who exposed that lab in Readley.

You mean the Chinese

and the guy had all kinds of connections?

She was better than Fauci.

They just promulgate this stuff.

Three gender.

We have an expert.

in gender studies and gender dysphoria and there's such a thing as a third sex and then all of a sudden this obscure gender dysphoria we all know, as I said, Havelak Ellis discusses it, Petronius discusses it, but it's a very tiny fraction of the population, and now we're told it's an epidemic.

Same thing about cold water.

Have you noticed this?

They tell us

you shouldn't burn natural gas to heat things.

It's not necessary.

You're warming up the planet.

Well,

why do people use a lot of natural gas?

They do it for hot water.

So, how can we redefine hot water?

Cold water immersion is really good for you.

You can stop inflammation.

Yeah, maybe.

So you should all take cold baths and cold showers.

Okay,

there's no reason why you can't shave with cold water.

There's no reason that you can't, you know, just use cold water.

You don't have to warm up anything.

In other words, get rid of your hot water heater.

Because it's using gas.

And we know one thing that the people who thought this up at Berkeley or Stanford or Cal, they have the biggest hot water heaters in the country at their home, just like the people who said, watch your carbon footprint, but don't look at my $70 million Gulf Stream.

Victor, let's...

Oh, go ahead.

No, it's just.

It's two things.

It's we don't want to hear the latest, you have to do this, because it's dreamed up by some person who's totally unaccountable and ignoramous and never subject to the consequences of his own ideology.

And we don't want to be serially lied to to cover up somebody's culpability.

And, you know what, I'll just finish with this rant.

I still go back to that 21 testimony where

Gil Giat or whatever his name was, Naval Operations, and Austin and Millie were just so

brimming with after the George Floyd virtue signaling to the conference.

Well, yes, we're going to check and see if there's some white supremacist and white rage and I want to read Kendi.

Why, he's just a racist.

He says so.

That you have to be a racist to be an anti-racist.

And you're going to read that and you're going to recommend it to soldiers.

We're going to find out.

Thank you.

Thank you.

That's very good, General.

General.

Then they do the little study and even they can't forge the results.

It comes out last December.

Sorry, there's no white supremacist clique in the military that we can find out, but we're going to suppress it and just keep quiet about it.

We're not going to be nearly as loud as we made the accusation.

And then when

45,000 people

don't show up, and I've talked, I won't mention names, but I've talked to so many officers and they all party they all pair at the party line.

How dare you write that about it was largely middle class white males who didn't join because we had defamed them.

And whether it was through kicking them out through COVID 8,500 or suggesting they were racist or full of white rage and hate or were our woke anti-merocratic standards made they made them not get what they had deserved through their achievements.

That had nothing to do with it.

It was because they're fat.

Suddenly in 2021 everybody gained weight.

Suddenly in 2021 everybody got tattooed.

Suddenly in 2021 everybody tattooed teardrops and they were gang members.

Suddenly in 2000

they couldn't do pull-ups.

And that's why.

And, you know, suddenly in 2021, there were so many jobs.

There's only so many people out there to take the jobs.

And so, you know, we were competing against private enterprise.

It never happened before.

And we were supposed to believe all that.

And yet, you go give a lecture, or you go, anytime I gave a lecture on military history, and I did a lot of them the last three years, it was always a stereotypical question from the floor.

And it wasn't even about the corner, it was about war in general.

And somebody would say, Can I ask you a question?

Yes.

My husband fought in Vietnam and I'm 75.

And my son, who's now 50, fought in the First Gulf War.

And his son, who's now 20,

they want him to go into the military.

But he doesn't know what to do.

I don't want him to go in the military.

I don't want him to end up in Afghanistan during that mess.

Or Iraq.

What was that for?

Or Libya.

What was that for?

I said, well, let me...

No, no.

I don't want him to go in there and he's accused of being a racist.

And they're going to just say he's racist, racist, white man.

He's not going to join.

And he's going to be the first one in our family in three generations.

And I heard that a lot.

And then I thought, hmm, how will you find the demographics?

Let me look.

And you look and look and look and look, and it's very hard.

And then finally, you find out that it's inordinately white males.

And then you tell people in the military, you better be careful.

You're cooking your own goose.

And they say, oh, no, no, no, no.

And they say that because they understand the orthodox powers that be.

That's how you get promoted.

That's how you maintain your reputation by defending DEI and Afghanistan

and,

I don't know, all these other things.

Chinese balloon.

14 days it took.

No, no, it was in Alaska.

No, no, no.

It was a spy balloon.

And you let it go across the United States because you didn't want to offend the Chinese at best.

And if you're conspiratorial and at worst, it might be because the Biden family, remember, Joe Biden said, not one one penny has gone to a Biden's from China we know that's a lie

it's proven that it's a lie yeah it sure is well Victor let's go ahead and take a break and come back and talk a little bit about Justice Alito's wife Martha Martha Ann Alito stay with us and we'll be back

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And this happened a little bit after January 6th.

And the left claims that it was in support of Trump's 2020 election fraud claims and the January 6th incident.

And I'm curious, why is this coming out just now?

Because there's a war against the Supreme Court, and they're trying to say that Donald Trump appointed a bunch of right-wing people that took everybody's right to abortion away, which he didn't, which the court did not do.

The court said that we have a federal system and we have 50 states, and the states can reflect what the majority wants.

And if a person

feels that it's too oppressive, there's something called a car and you can drive across the state line in most cases.

But that's not what we were told.

But what was this all about?

It was about resurrecting a grainy video that someone took on their iPhone about a flag upside down.

in the general time frame, not right after, but the general time frame.

But what is missing is the context that might make Justice Alito's exegesis a little bit more convincing than you think.

Meaning, I don't know why he wasn't in a gated community.

He lives out, you know, anybody can walk up to his house.

But put it in the context.

So this happened in January of 2021.

In March of 2020, Chuck Schumer went out to the Supreme Court doors in front of a mob and said, you're going to reap the whirlwind, Gorsuch.

And Kavanaugh,

you're not going to know what hit you.

And then we had people showing up at the justice's house.

Remember that?

We had an assassin that showed up and wanted to kill Gorsuch.

Not Gorsuch, but Kavanaugh.

And he was talked out of it by his sister.

And then they just kept protesting at their home.

Then we had somebody illegally leak.

Remember, right before the midterms, a private confidential memo from the security

violating the security of the Supreme Court.

Nobody ever, who did that?

Did we ever find out who the law clerk was that took a confidential memo and leaked it for the purposes of besmirching the court before an election?

No.

So his explanation was in such a climate,

And I had been demonized by the left, they were putting posters up, my neighbors, about us.

Vicious posters.

And when we walked out, a person said to my wife, you see you in T,

called her an expletive.

And she got angry and felt scared.

So for a while, she put up a distress call that is a flag upside down.

This house is under distress.

All of our neighbors got personal signs and they are attacking me.

And they've called me these names.

and therefore we can't walk outside of our house, so we're going to show them and put a flag.

That's what she did.

Is that as bad as going to the chambers of the Supreme Court and threatening them by name without consequences?

No.

Is it as bad as mobbing a Supreme Court justice's home?

No.

They never do.

Have you ever noticed that?

They don't go to Judge Kagan's home, do they?

They don't do that.

Kanji Brown, do they go to her home?

No.

What would would happen if,

I don't know, Rand Paul went to the doors of the Supreme Court and said, Kagan,

Brown, you don't know what's going to hit you.

You sowed

the wind, you're going to reap the whirlwind.

They would be so angry.

Or what if they said this?

Well, Donald Trump won.

It's now November, and we've just dusted off a little plan that the left has been writing about and demanding.

It's called Pack the Court.

Now, we used to think that 1937-38 motion that the FDR tried to foist on the nation because they had declared portions of the

New Deal unconstitutional, which they were, it was kind of a little out of hand to add liberal justices.

And by the way, even though it was repelled in the Congress, it did scare the justices to death, so they began to rule a little bit more liberally.

But that's a good idea.

So now that we have the House and Senate, we're going to suggest that we add, according to the Democratic's advice, six more justices, and we're going to appoint all six.

Oh, you're going to stop that?

By filibustering?

Well, maybe that'll be good too, because we'll send a message to the Democratic judges: you better be careful, because we can do this anytime we want.

And that's the whole purpose of all of this, isn't it?

Why do you go to the Supreme Court and scream at the justices by name?

Why do you go to their homes and threaten them?

Why do you bring up a grainy thing and start attacking Alito?

Why do you go after what Britt

Kavanaugh may,

you allege, had done as an 18-year-old when he had too much beer and he didn't do it?

Why do you do all that?

So you tell them, you like that?

Just like the mafioso person that goes into the liquor store, the family-owned liquor store, pizza parlor, and says, You want protection money, or do you want your window broken?

So it's thuggish.

They're telling all the conservative justices they go after Clarence Thomas more than anyone.

They demonize his wife, they go after him in every imaginable way.

They say he's done this and this, and they accuse him of taking a free trip.

And then every time they do, they say, This judge, this judge, this judge, this judge.

All liberal judges did the same thing.

And

why do they do it?

So then Kavanaugh or Gorsuch or Alito goes, Oh my God,

if I rule about this case, these people are going to swarm our house.

Do I really.

They write in the New York Times horrible things about me.

I'm not going to be invited to this part.

That's what they think.

I don't think it has an effect on them, but that's the point.

They're thugs.

Thugs.

It's a good Indian word, the thugie.

You know.

Well,

since we're on that, people who have gotten really bad press

and with the hope of stopping other people,

have you seen this Butler Harrison, I think it is,

or is it Harrison Butler?

He's got two last names.

Kansas City Chiefs Kicker.

He was at a commencement for the Benedictine College and there to give a speech.

And he had the audacity to claim that a woman's most important role is that of mother or homemaker.

And boy, did he receive not just bad press broadly, but also the sisters of Mount St.

Scholastic, who are sponsors of the Benedictine College, said they disavowed what he had said.

So I was kind of surprised, especially since the article I read said most of the people that graduate from that college often do get married quite early, so it wasn't a hostile audience today.

When the left goes after him, he goes to, he's a Catholic, he goes to a Catholic constituency.

I mean,

if you were a college that was on the cutting edge of abortion, like many of them are, and you're a pro-abortionist, and you go there and think, I think abortion is necessary and maybe it's good.

Does some other person try to deplat for them?

No.

He goes to the Catholic college and he says, says, you know what?

I read the transcript.

He basically says the following.

I'm not judging anybody, but the fundamentals of a civilization depend on a nuclear family having children.

And the best way to accomplish that goal, which benefits society because you need a fertility rate, I'm

temporary, I mean I'm ex-temporary adding things, but this was his message.

You need 2.1 children per family, and the best environment for that is a nuclear family.

And so, all you women out there

do not believe that just getting a bunch of letters after your name and degrees and going on the fast track is the only way you can be a full woman.

You can get married, you can have children, and you can raise them to be great citizens of the United States, and that is an achievement.

Every bit as important

as

being a legal counsel for the House Judiciary Committee or being a professor of gender studies at Harvard or being Claudine Gay.

It's just as important.

And then he said, for you men,

it's time to

man up and you are the protector of your family.

There's such a thing called masculinity.

You express your, you protect the weak.

And that's what he said.

And it violated all of the canons of progressive extremism, and they got very angry.

But it wasn't just that they got angry angry because they're progressives and they don't just get angry.

They try to destroy people.

So then the NFL gave one of those

weasly little commentary.

He doesn't express the values of the NFL.

Well, what are the values of the NFL?

Please tell us.

Is it, I don't know, Colin Kaepernick?

Is that the value that you become a multi-millionaire in the United States due to the freedom and prosperity of the system, and then you trash it and say it's racist?

And you try to destroy people from participating in this sport, and you try to divide it by race?

Is that what you're doing?

And that's what they do.

They ever say anything like that?

I don't think so.

No, they don't.

No,

I admired him for doing that.

Yeah.

It was definitely very interesting.

So let's take a break and then come back and talk a little bit about Senator Cornyn.

Stay with us, and we'll be back.

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All right, Victor, so Senator Cronin has warned that there is a terror threat by ISIS.

Now they're getting even more specific due to the open border, our open southern border.

And

you know,

I know I come back to this all the time, but it really bothers me that all of this threat,

you know, terrorist threats are coming out now when it's been open for a long time.

Well,

you've got to remember about the history of the open border.

Donald Trump came in saying he was going to build the wall.

People like Ann Coulter hate him because he didn't.

But to be fair,

everybody said, well, he had the control of the House, but he didn't have control of the federal judiciary.

Maybe at the Supreme Court level.

So he was the object of suit after suit.

He asked the Pentagon to participate, and they obstructed him.

You had anonymous and Homeland Security.

Remember him, that low-level people that the New York Times said was a major player?

And he said,

don't worry, we're handling Trump.

We just don't do what he said.

And so that's why today Heritage is coming up with a plan.

The Heritage

people are coming up with a plan to say, you know what, when he hits the ground running, we're going to have 20,000 political appointings just the way that the left does.

And they're going to be on the same page as the executive and the Congress.

So why are they doing this now?

They're doing this now because 10 million people have come in and we have no idea who they are.

And almost daily we read about an illegal alien who raped, molested a child, or is one of 350 people on the terrorist watch list.

And we won't tell you, even if we knew, why 25 to 30,000 Chinese national males of military age are here.

We have no idea.

But we do know that you can't just walk out of China and say, I'm going to the United States without somebody from the Communist

Chinese Communist Party saying, if you're going to go to America, this is what we want you to do.

Or rather, why don't you go to America?

And so it's been completely a mess and he can't stop it because they want it.

There was another study that came out that said it's not 1% of people who are illegal that vote.

It might be as high as 25%

of illegal aliens vote.

And we know that 86% in some studies vote left-wing.

That was the whole purpose of it, is to import a demographic constituency that will vote in a way that Americans who are here and citizens will not.

That's the purpose.

It's not hard.

And so they stopped the wall, they stopped

ending catch and release, they stopped the idea you have to apply for refugee status from Mexico, they stopped putting pressure on Mexico and they got what they wanted.

And like every leftist mightist touch, it turns everything not into gold, but into dross.

And now they're worried.

And they're worried about the price of gas.

I was in Palo Alto.

I filled up at six bucks a gallon.

And

we had to cancel Anwar.

We had to cancel our Canadian pipeline.

We had to cancel the continental line.

We had to stop federal leases.

But now we've got to pump like crazy.

We've got to beg the Saudis and the Russians and the Venezuelans.

We've got to drain the strategic petroleum reserve.

We've got to tell the Ukrainians don't touch those refineries on the border of Russia because we love that black, smelly, gooey thing called oil.

We want it, at least until the election's over.

And the same thing is true of the border.

Come on, come on, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in.

You racist, racist, racist, racist, xenophobe, xenophobe, protectionists.

That's what they called everybody.

They wanted to enforce the existing law.

Now?

Oh my God, it polls as one of the two most important issues, and it pulls 60% against us.

So

we're going to let in 4,000, but after 4,000 a day,

then we'll stop it.

So

10 days is 40,000, 20 days is 80,000, 30 days is 120,000.

12 months is what, a million and a half people, 144,

1.4 million, right?

So they're saying that's okay.

Just,

you know, 1.4 million is okay.

We won't go over that.

We have no idea how to assimilate, intermarry, integrate them.

We're broke.

We owe $36 trillion.

We're running up $2 trillion deficits, but

we want people from the poorest regions without background checks.

We don't care if they've got tuberculosis, and we had people in California that apparently do now.

We don't care if they have

leprosy.

We don't care what they have.

That would be mean to ask for a health audit.

We don't know if they're terrorists.

We don't know why they're coming.

We just know that they will vote in some manner during the upcoming elections because we have 70% of the people who are not voting on Election Day, thanks for the little COVID gambit that we played in 2020.

We've changed the laws in the key states.

We've got people who can mail in ballots with invalid signatures.

Their name doesn't necessarily match the registrars.

They can mail it in 10 days late.

You can ballot cure it.

You can harvest it.

You can have same-day registration.

And so this is what it's all about.

And if you say that, which I just did,

then you're an advocate of the great replacement theory.

You're a racist.

You're just an old white guy who's worried that your world is collapsing.

to a vibrant, dynamic, new constituent.

No, I'm just worried about the United States.

I don't care what color somebody is.

I don't care at all.

But I do read what what the left writes, and they have books called Demography as Destiny and the New Democratic Majority.

And they say explicitly that they are the party of a new constituency.

And that new

constituency is not based on the likability or popularity of their agenda.

It's based on an open border and bringing in as poor and as many poor people as you can.

Yeah.

Well, let's talk a little bit about the people that have been

basically they've been under-reported on, and they've been reporting on the problems like you are just talking about.

These people that the left claims are unhinged, but that have shown themselves to be both hinged and solid in their claims.

And people like Chris Ruffo, who's been investigating all sorts of implagiarism, or Julie Kelly, whose investigative reporting on January 6th or Trump files or even the Witner plot have been true and been,

you know, she's been highly

criticized for that.

Or even Alex Berenson, whose

criticism of vaccines and COVID,

those criticisms have been overblown about him, the critics of him.

And I was wondering if you had a little bit to say about this left.

Which one do you want me to start with?

Julie Kelly, because she's a very good idea.

I know Julie Kelly.

Julie Kelly was absolutely right.

She's devoted a great deal of her life to go to the trials of January 6th, and she basically said,

we're not talking about people who unlawfully entered to the Capitol and vandalized it or hit a police person.

We're talking about thousands of people who didn't do any of that.

but were found out that they were there through facial recognition and they were hauled in in front of magistrates, judges, and threatened with long sentences unless they confessed to things like illegal parading.

And then they were treated, and the ones that they went after were treated terribly and solitary.

Sometimes the charges were not even filed.

And by the way, the narratives, she wrote, were completely lies.

When we were told, as a nation, that five police officers were killed when they committed suicide up to a year later, and that Officer Sicknick was not beaten to death, but he died of natural causes a day later.

And there was only one person who was killed violently, maybe another, but if the other was trampled or something, didn't just have a heart attack.

Of the five,

four of them were Trump supporters.

And the person who was lethally shot for the misdemeanor of going through an already broken window into the Capitol was shot.

She posed, she was 5'2,

95 pounds or 100 pounds.

She posed no threat to anybody.

The people who were staring at her with riot gear on didn't shoot her.

Officer Bird did.

And then we were told, in America, if you're a law enforcement officer and you pull out your gun and shoot somebody for a misdemeanor and they're unarmed, then your name is going to be all over the pages, like Derek Chauvin, right?

And they hid his identity.

And then he claimed he was a victim.

I've been the subject of threat.

We didn't hear it for months.

And of course, they had that

memorial service where Nancy Pelosi then said five people were killed, and then they militarized it.

And she wrote all about that, just laid it out.

And it was,

it was,

you know.

And what did she get for it?

She got what Scott Atlas and Jay Bacharia got.

She got nothing but disdain and anger and threats.

And Alex Berenson, I mean, it wasn't so unusual.

He just said

he became into prominent, you know, he wrote spy novels, and he became prominent when he went on Fox News, mostly Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingram, and he warned us about the legalization of marijuana.

And then he went through a lot of scientific studies that said the more marijuana you drink,

I mean, you

not drink and nor eat, but smoke,

the greater propensity you are to psychological disorders.

This is beyond

lotus eating laxity and slothfulness, and what we always associate with chronic dopers.

But he was saying it was dangerous for young people to smoke it all the time.

And he got plastered for that.

And then, when the vaccination came around, he said,

this is not a traditional vaccine.

It's an experimental vaccine that makes, it's really a cellular genetic engineering project of the body that makes the body

emit spike proteins and they can collect in various places in inordinate percentages, the head, the lungs, the reproductive orders, the gut, and that can attract a hyperimmune response.

And each person will continue to make those spike proteins at different

times and different levels.

And we can't really know what's happening.

He didn't say don't take them.

He just said there's a greater propensity than other vaccines to have unexpected consequences.

He was right about that.

And your third person?

Chris Ruffo.

Chris Ruffo.

Chris Ruffo,

I remember, worked at the Manhattan Institute.

And

I remember he was a filmmaker.

He did documentary films on weird things like

traveling at Mongolia, I think.

He wasn't a political activist.

So he came into prominence because he was looking at what DEI was doing

and he found out that there were a lot of people who were in DEI that were guilty of unprofessional conduct and especially plagiarism.

So he started to broadcast, publish, write.

about people who were not subject to the same scrutiny that other people in the academy were.

And unfortunately, for him, his data showed that black women, for example, were inordinately

committing plagiarism, at least from the ones that came into public prominence and DEI people were.

So he made, and he was called a racist for it.

And he didn't stop.

In fact, he dared them to keep going after him.

All he said basically was this: I found there's a lot of plagiarists.

MITs to DEI are plagiarists.

Claudine Gay is a plagiarist.

And he named dozens of them.

And then he said, if you think I'm a racist, then stop plagiarizing.

Because I'm not looking to find out a particular demographic or racist plagiarizing.

I just want to know if the DEI industry as a whole is plagiarizing.

And if it's plagiarizing more than

the professor's ranks in general.

So all you have to do is don't plagiarize.

So he was trying to create a deterrent.

And he did play that role very well.

Don't plagiarize or you'll come to the attention of Chris Fufo and he'll out you.

And so that's what he did and he was demonized.

And the nice thing about all these people, they said, tough luck.

I'm not quitting.

And they kept at it.

And that's why they were despised.

And, you know, they lost platforms and they were treated.

In some cases, they lost their

ability to reach people and they didn't didn't give up.

They just kept doing it.

But

speaking to someone, you know, I keep beating that dead horse when I had right after, it was in 2020,

and I looked around and I thought, this is really unfair what they're doing to my colleague Neil Ferguson from one private email he wrote years ago to half in jest when he suggested to a prominent Stanford student if they're going to railroad this lecture series and they are not going to give fair representation for conservative speakers to balanced left-wing speakers, and yet they advertise that's the purpose of cardinal conversations, then maybe you should do some OPO research.

And next thing you knew, he should be fired.

He's advocating personal destruction.

And then I saw what they did to

Scott Atlas.

I wrote about it.

And then all of a sudden, somebody called me up and said, you've been on Tucker, and you here's a transcript of everything you've said.

You've got to go over every word with me for about a month and a half to see if you objected when Tucker said the elections were questionable or whether you

and then I said, no, why would I have to do that?

So you don't get censored by the

or fired by the faculty senate.

And so I went through the little wigma row.

I went through the transcript.

Nothing there.

Go in there and you hear this person who

headed the faculty senate, who led at one point in his career, I don't know what, 70, 80 Stanford students and shut down a major bridge across the San Francisco Bay Commute, caused I think 10 accidents, got 60 or 70 arrested, and they didn't say a word.

And these people that went after Scott Atlas and tried to take Yanka's medical license at Stanford University, and then the academic senate who censored him and libeled him, and not one of them has ever apologized to him.

And no one's apologized to Neil Ferguson.

But, you know, I was lucky that I didn't have the same level of vituperation.

I was just sort of an add-on.

Yeah.

Well, you wrote an article for the website, Civilization Collapse Follows When Laws and Consequences Mean Nothing.

And that you're talking about the consequences meaning nothing for the left.

And

there was a comment on there that was

very positive.

I recently moved, and this is from Brian James, I recently moved from the city of Columbus, where I had lived for 20 years, back to my rural northwest Ohio hometown.

I had forgotten how friendly people can be.

The people here are genuine, smart, law-abiding, hard-working, and love their community.

They want a simple life, security, safe pursuit for opportunities, and happiness in a prosperous America.

People with this kind of outlook, past and present, from all over the country contribute to the pillars of this great societal experiment.

The American spirit is still alive and well.

I like that comment.

Thank you, Brian James.

Yeah, I think the biggest thing in America right now, what people want,

is one word.

consequences.

They just want the law to be enforced and the rules to be enforced and and no exceptions.

So if you come across the border illegally and you know you're breaking the law, they want you deported.

If you plagiarize something and your particular university says this is grounds for dismissal, then they want you dismissal.

If you're a student and you cheat, they want you to follow the rules.

It's as simple as that.

And if you're Hunter Biden and you

did not pay your income taxes and it's hundreds of thousands of dollars and they wanted you treated no better and no worse than anybody else who does that.

And if you go into a San Francisco store and you walk out with $800 of computer equipment, they want you prosecuted.

They don't want to say, oh, he didn't take the extra $150, so it's not really that serious.

They want consequences.

They just want consequences.

If you are at Stanford or Harvard and you go out and you camp out and they say this is an illegal encampment, they want you to follow the rules.

If I go to Stanford University and I sit there and have lunch and I sit on my chair and then I decide I'm going to stay overnight and I throw stuff on the ground and there's trash and there's papers,

I'm going to be sanctioned.

But one of the worst things about these campus protests for me, when I watch the cleanup, I was just watching one at UCLA

and my God, and Columbia, it's sickening.

You see all these people,

many of them minority members, and what are they doing?

They've got gloves and they're walking with huge trash bags

and they are picking things, trash up, food, and every once in a while

They have those little scoopers up with, you know, they like a lever machine, a little hand thing.

And I don't know if they're picking up needles or excretement or whatever it is,

but it's a mess.

And the idea that these wealthy, elite, entitled students take over an entire area and turn it into a flotsam and jetsum dump.

And then when they leave, they don't pick up anything and they have members of the lower classes pick up after them as if they're their parents and they're some adolescent.

It's sickening.

And then when you see these people coming out of Queens and the Bronx and Manhattan to come into Manhattan that are law officers to Columbia and they spit at them and they yell at them and they call them racial slur.

They do everything.

And you see who these people are from this high class, and it's the high American class, the wealthy American classes, and it's the wealthy Middle Eastern classes who are here on golf oil money.

These are the best and the brightest, so to speak, of the Middle East that come over here.

They're the privileged.

And it's almost like it's a caste system.

They come over here and they treat people like dirt who are not professors or they're not intellectuals.

They treat the maintenance people like dirt.

They treat the police like dirt.

And there should be consequences.

And when they deface things, when they go to the White House and they spray things, when they throw, they deface a national cemetery, they deface the Lincoln Memorial, they disrupt,

they they should have consequences.

That's all people want, consequences.

Otherwise,

you have no law.

Cicero wrote that.

He had a whole treatise about what the laws are.

That's what the whole platonic corpus

that surrounds the

middle dialogues and early dialogues about Socrates is if you don't follow the law no matter who you are, you have no law.

It has to be equally applied and enforced.

Or you have chaos.

We have chaos now.

And it's permeating the entire society.

I mean, I'm on a rant, but I was driving home on I-5 and the 99, and

you go on four lanes, I-5, two in each direction,

and I drive it for 37 miles.

And you just see these truckers get in the left lane, and they just stay there.

I mean, they don't even move.

And

you'll see 50 cars behind them.

Ostensibly, they're supposed to pass slow truckers in the right lane, but they're going, I don't know, 68 miles an hour.

And you go on the 90s, they do the same.

There's no rule.

It's like Road Rage, Mad Max, Thunder Road.

It permeates all society when the laws are considered negotiable, whether it's immigration law or traffic law or student rules and regulations on campus,

or it's overtly destroying laws.

It just...

People want consequences.

I know that that's a bad name because we usually term consequences law law and order, but

I can remember the 68 and 72 elections and it was about law and order.

And people felt that the McGovern Humphrey wing of the Democratic, Humphrey was

not a leftist, he was a centrist, but nevertheless, all the rioting and everything, if the Democrats were wise right now, they would cancel that convention in August.

Because you have all these students that went home and they haven't been able to demonstrate because they lost their little platform because because school's coming to a close.

And they're all going to reassemble at that convention.

Not that they won't try it with a Republican, but they'll be especially vehement because they think people listen to them.

At least the Republicans will say, we can never persuade these people.

They won't cave.

But to the Democrats, the more

violence, the more trash we spew, the more chance, anti-Semitic, nihilist, existential, Illuminist rhetoric we do,

the more they'll negotiate.

They're winning there already.

All these presidents are negotiating.

Poor little Sonoma State guy was late to the party when he said, basically, you can have everything you want.

The guy is at Chicago or Northeastern or Brown, Northwestern or Brown, basically one of those campuses said, yeah, you get five Palestinian scholarships.

Here's two professorships.

Yeah, we'll divest.

They gave him everything.

Yeah, they sure did.

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I hope you've enjoyed the current news that Victor and I have been talking about.

And thank you very much, Victor, and thanks to our audience.

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