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So in the Trump trials, we've had three different things come out about three different trials that he will eventually be in.

But Jack Smith's trial is delayed because of mishandling of some of the evidence.

Alvin Bragg seems to be breaking down, and maybe you can correct me on that because Stormy's testimony, if you ask me, makes it very clear that Donald Trump probably had personal reasons for giving her money.

And then finally, Fannie Willis seems to be on the verge of probably being thrown out out as the lead prosecutor.

So what are your reflections?

Well,

you have to include the Eugene Carroll civil case.

So Bragg, Letita James, Fanny Willis, Jack Smith, they're all imploding, except, of course, the Eugene Carroll and James have been settled, but I think they will be reversed on appeal.

So what do they all have in common?

They were all...

They're not prosecutions or persecutions.

Look at some of the things they have in common.

Statutes of limitations.

Eugene Carroll should have never been allowed to launch that civil suit.

It was way past the statute of limitations that happened in the 1990s, 94, 95, or was it 96?

She knew by her designer dress.

Oh, she didn't.

It never existed when she said it did.

But the point I'm making is that a member

of the New York legislature gave a

special bill got passed to waive the statue of limitations just to go after Trump.

It was a bill of attainder that's outlawed in the Constitution.

And then Bragg would have never had a statute.

I mean, those were misdemeanors.

So he had to bootstrap that on a federal

felony indictment.

But even that wouldn't have been enough.

He had to get a judge say that, well, because of COVID, we're going to extend the felony statute limitations.

Does anybody ever think

that anybody will ever be charged again

with the same type of indictments that Bragg, James, Willis, and Smith

have lodged.

There's no precedent for it.

No.

Nobody in New York has ever said, you know what?

I'm going to go after developer X because he overvalued a piece of real estate, although the banks, whose auditors are a lot more sophisticated than I do, looked at that very carefully and they gave him a loan and he paid it in full and time and they made a tidy profit and they have no complaint and there's no victim and no crime.

So now I'm going to go after everybody that does that.

Nobody believes that's going to ever happen.

Does anybody really believe that

from now on, any presidential candidate, when he calls up the registrar, let's say it's 2000, right?

And that's a hanging Chad in Florida.

So you know that people called up the registrars in Dade County and said, I know there's things there, and we better back and forth.

Is that now a felony?

Nobody's ever going to do that again.

You're not going to have a prosecutor who's a local prosecutor

go after somebody.

It's never going to happen again.

And then you got the pres, you know, does anybody think that from now on, when a president takes his files out,

that

his opponent who's running against him in a campaign is going to appoint a special prosecutor prosecutor to go after his presidential

election rival and say, unlike me, who took out files for 30 years, you took them out for two years.

Unlike me, who put them in various locations, you had them in one location.

Unlike me, who had no authority to declassify me, you did.

Unlike me, who put them in a rickety garage next to a Corvette, you had them in a secure Mar-a-Lago location.

That's never going to happen again.

So these are all new things,

and that's the chickens are coming home.

They've never been used before, these indictments.

Then they've got the question of equal justice.

Robert Hurr.

That was Orwellian when he said,

well, he took out classified files.

He did it for 30 years.

And his ghostwriter was briefed on classified files without a security clearance.

And the SOB, I'm Ad Libby now, he

defied a a federal subpoena and destroyed the evidence.

But

the whole thing is: Joe Biden is mentally compromised, he's empathetic, he's amnesiac.

He would go for a jury.

They say, poor Joe, he's guilty as hell, but we're not going to indict him because he has an insignificant existence and he doesn't really have a job.

He's only president of the United States.

That's what they said.

And then, yet, when you compare that to Trump, and then even Gene Carroll, 30-some years ago, a woman comes out of Trump's past and says, now that you're famous and you're running for president, you sexually assaulted me in the exact same way as a Law and Order episode.

But look at Tara Reed, remember her?

She came out of the

she said she had a lot more detail because she told her mother, who called in, you remember that?

To Larry King's show and said, my daughter by a prominent senator.

So at the time, but you know, she

was just considered a nut.

The left went after her and said, you know what, she's nuts.

This is crazy.

And,

you know, so do you think the

and then we get into this symmetrical application of the law.

Do you think there's Donald Trump is the only developer in Manhattan who fills out a loan application and says Marlaw goes worth a little bit more than I, the brilliant Alvin Bragg say, or Letita James, excuse me, thinks?

No.

No.

No.

And you know that, and then we got the equal application of Penny Willis.

Stacey Abrams is in the

same state.

So in 2018, she loses by 50,000 votes to the current governor Brian Kemp, right?

Yes.

And what does she do?

She sues and said, this is voter fraud.

I'm an election denialist.

I'm going to tour the country and be famous by shaking down people for money as election denialism.

And that's what she did.

And then in two, remember Jill Stein?

I really, I would have had more votes in 2000.

I'm suing those computers.

It wasn't Dominion.

I guess it was Dominion.

I don't know who they were, but she sued.

And then we had, as I said, those grade F celebrities.

Hey, electors, you have to be faithless.

Renounce your constitutional duty to reflect the popular vote in your state and become faithless electors and flip over in a coup fashion and get

who?

Hillary Clinton elected.

That was a coup.

So.

And then you know what's weird about that?

Let me just finish,

Sammy,

talking about

in, no, no, no, no, no, I'm trying to think, but in

2016 campaign, Hillary Clinton was fined over $100,000

for what?

For paying a foreign national who worked as a contractor for him, which is illegal in a presidential campaign.

Christopher Steeles, dossier, she hit it, as we said, through DMC, Perkins Co., using GPS, but they caught her and they fined her and she had said that it was a campaign, a legal expense.

And they said, that's not a legal expense, that's a campaign expense.

And what did they do?

Did they try her?

No.

How about Barack Obama in 2008?

He raised $2 million without any paperwork, basically.

And they thought, well, this is Barack.

He's our new model of a new African-American, or to quote Joe Biden, he's the first African-American candidate who's articulate and clean.

Remember that?

Joe Biden, the racist?

So anyway, what happened?

They waited.

They examined it.

They re-examined it.

They re-re-re-examined it.

They re-re-re-examined it.

And then it was getting near the re-election time.

And the Federal Election Committee said, oh my God, the Commission said, oh, my God,

we let Barack slide on that $2 million that was illegally and improperly raised.

That's a criminal offense.

And he's running for election.

So we better do something right now before the election heats up.

Oh, we'll fine him $375,000, which they did.

But

did they file like Alvin Bragg did?

Did a local prosecutor said, well, one of those donors

that gave to Barack Obama was from Utah.

So we are going to indict Barack Obama in Utah because he participated in campaign finance fraud.

They could have done it.

They will now, maybe.

And of course, then finally, and we're asking, we're getting on the topic, remember, I'm going in this ramp because we're talking about how ridiculous these suits are: the Gene Carroll civil suit, the Alvin Bragg, the Letita James, the Fannie Wilts, the Jack Smith.

And then we get into bias.

And

Nathan Wade

admitted that he went to the White House and talked to the White House counsel.

And then he was so audacious that he billed them for the hours of his mentoring.

You know, it's basically they thought, you know what?

Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade are incompetent.

We better get him to the White House or this thing is going to fall apart.

And then,

look at, and that taught somebody, the Bragg prosecution, they said, Alvin Bragg is incompetent.

And this is all coordinated by the White House.

So the DOJ said,

Matthew Kolangelo, is that his name?

Matthew Kalangelo, you've got to get over there.

I know you're one of our top DOJ federal prosecutors, but you go into Manhattan and you take charge of that prosecution of Donald Trump.

And you better do it.

He's not doing a good job, however.

Well, he has a lot to, he has, it's in his defense, there's no case to work with.

And he's worked for the DNC, and so is that other prosecutor.

There's another prosecutor,

I think her name was Hoffinger.

She's a big Biden.

And then you have Jack Smith.

And

his wife was a very famous left-wing documentary maker.

She made a movie called Becoming about Michelle Obama.

So you have Michelle Obama's acolyte, husband, who, and she's a big leftist, and he is prosecuting Joe Biden's opponent.

And when you get back to the Mershon

judge, getting back to Alvin Bragg, he gave, not a lot, but he gave to the Biden administration.

His daughter, Lauren, created a massive

consultantship where she advised everybody from Adam Smith to other Democratic prominent candidates.

And she helped them raise 90 million bucks on the strength of her father's name.

And again, as I said, they had this Hoffinger woman who had also given.

So the whole thing is biased.

Every single one is biased, asymmetrical application of the law, new laws that are created, statute limitations that are ignored.

And

why is this all, you know?

Why is this all falling apart?

Because there was nothing there to begin with.

And what is it going to do finally?

What is it going to finally do to the country?

It's all new territory, and I think what we're going to see is hundreds of local and state prosecutors are going to say, you know what?

I've got license to go after a president, ex-president, presidential candidates.

And I can be famous for doing that.

I can help my party, and I can tie them down.

And if I tie them down, I can exhaust them financially, psychologically, physically, and I can put gag orders on them.

I can keep them off the campaign trail, and I can be, as I said, famous.

And it really puts

the onus on conservative prosecutors and conservatives.

What do you do?

You say, no, no, no, no, I'm Mitt Romney.

I play by the Marcus of Queensbury rules.

Not in my name.

I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to stoop down to that tit, ta-tat, ta-tit-ta-tat, and become a third-world country.

Or do you say, I don't want to become a third-world country, but I'm going to make sure these guys never try it again because I'm going to give them a dose of of their own medicine.

So we're going to get to Israel in a minute, but if you think about it, just to preempt a little bit.

Which one do you recommend before you preempt?

Well, I'm talking about the aid cutoff

to Benjamin and Young's war.

No, I mean, which one do you recommend for the Conservatives?

Do we do Queen's Marcus of Queensbury rules or tit for tat

to teach him a lesson?

I think that you have to do a little tit for tat to tell you the truth.

And then there's another,

there is

another problem.

This entire

persecution of Donald Trump has changed the electoral dynamics.

When he went into this, he was behind Joe Biden.

And if you look at his support

since last year when these indictments started.

It's very interesting.

He's still rock solid with the MAGA base.

He's still rock solid with white males.

Where he's slipping,

he's still not doing as great as he could be with suburban women.

He's picking up Latino and black voters.

And what he's doing is he is redefining electoral politics by class rather than race.

And I know a lot of it is economic issue, gas, food prices, illegal immigration.

But one element is he is telling the Latino and black communities,

look at these people did to me.

They're just using the law.

This is America.

They're going after me.

And my mugshot, look, and this is, I'm an underdog.

And remember, now Trump is talking as if he's Nelson Mandela and he's saying, I'm doing this for you.

I don't care about, he's defined.

I'm going to go to jail.

They'll never break me.

And this appeals to minorities.

And despite the fact that he's orange and he's pure white.

So my point is that he is now crafting a class-based populist movement.

And then finally, there's another consequence.

Man, if you look at the United States abroad,

let's just look at neutrals, allies, and enemies.

So our allies think,

wait a minute, you guys aren't, you understand what you're doing?

This is a blank, blank circus.

And the whole, we don't want you to do this.

We're Israel.

We don't know what you're doing.

What is this?

Biden is doing this for the Arab vote in Michigan?

He's cutting off us.

And then Japan is saying,

what are they doing?

Are they going after the president?

This is stuff that you guys lecture everybody about.

Then the enemies are Chi and Putin are saying, well, welcome to the club.

Glad you made it.

We love you guys now.

You're as crooked and autocratic as we are.

Now, we give you some advice, Joe Biden.

When you put him in jail and you gag him and you put him in the, I would suggest torturing him, pull his nails out like we do in China, stereotype, hang him, throw him off a building.

We do that and don't laugh.

Jen Saki said, We don't know what might happen to Trump.

He could get sick or he could die.

I'm not laughing.

My own personal feeling about the whole you might be thrown in jail is look what happened to Epstein.

Yes.

Well, my point is that Russia, China, and our enemies are delighted that we become like them, they think.

And then there's the neutrals, and they're going,

what's going on?

You guys come down to Latin America and you use this word third world in Brazil and Argentina.

When we kick the guy out, we put him in jail.

Welcome to the club.

You're just like us.

You have no credibility.

Don't ever lecture us about an autonomous and transparent and disinterested judiciary.

You're a revolutionary leftist 10

dictatorship.

That's what you are.

And that's what's going to happen out of all this.

Just to get back very quickly to what I said about Israel.

So they impeach Donald Trump.

If you remember, they started in the end of 2019.

It went into 2020.

Okay.

What was the charge?

Mr.

Venman, remember Mr.

Venman?

And the whistleblower, Eric Saromella, who never heard the call?

So Vinman was on there, and he is a native-born Ukrainian dual citizen.

And he hears that Trump is talking to Zielensky.

And Zelensky's...

He says, yeah, we've got your aid, Cohen, your javelins.

Obama never gave it to you.

I did.

But my problem is Biden has been mouthing off that he fired your prosecutor, Victor Slocum.

He went before the Council on Foreign Relations and just said, son of a bitch, excuse my language, son of a bitch, and looked at his watch, and they did what I wanted.

They fired him.

So he was using foreign aid, Biden.

I'm kind of ad-libbing what Trump said.

So I want you to look in the Biden.

Now, at that time, Biden was the likely, but I don't think he had been the declared candidate, okay?

They impeached him.

They said he used domestic political considerations as president to delay, although not suspend, military aid to an ally.

Okay, take a deep breath.

Joe Biden took this appropriation,

green lighted from the Congress, all of this military aid.

To Israel.

To Israel.

Yes.

And he decided

to suspend it, maybe cut it off, because the Israelis are going to to go back on the offensive.

Fall off, right?

Okay.

And why did he do that?

Well, he did it because he was focused on 250,000 voters in Michigan, Arab and Muslim voters.

Does anybody think, let me ask you, does anybody think that if the polls right now for 2024, state by state, showed that Bill, that Joe Biden was ahead by 20 points in Michigan and he was five points up in the national polls.

Does anybody think that he would have suspended aid to Israel?

I don't.

So you basically have an impeachable offense by democratic standards.

A, a president of the United States took congressionally authorized aid

intended for a much closer ally than Ukraine, our closest ally, and suspended it on grounds that

whatever he said the grounds were, whatever Trump said the grounds were, whatever Biden said the grounds were, he was worried about his political fortunes in the next election.

You know what I think they should do?

I know they only have a one vote lead.

Tomorrow they should issue a writ of impeachment.

It wouldn't pass the House because they couldn't get everybody together.

They can just say, you know what, this is exactly what you guys impeached Biden for.

We're going to impeach, I mean, Trump for, we're going to impeach Biden, just ceremonially.

Yeah.

Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and continue on both the Trump trials and Israel because there's more to talk about.

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So Victor, on the Trump trials, if I could go back, we've had so much on Stormy's testimony.

And what I was thinking or I found interesting is I know that you're going to say, well, they wanted her to give all this salacious stuff just to make Trump look bad and gain some points from people who would be offended for their, for the Democratic ticket.

And I understand that.

But in doing that,

they have made his case that I paid her the hush money for personal reasons because who would want their kid and their wife to hear all that salacious detail?

And it just seems if you're a juror, you've got to just say, well, clear to me, of course, he was doing it for personal reasons.

So he didn't miscategorize the payments at all.

I don't know.

Rich Lowry wrote an article today listing in detail the efforts to which Bill Clinton

used non-disclosure forms, coercion.

What was the word they used when he went up for re-election?

It was a bimbo eruption.

Yeah,

an Arkansas bimbo eruption.

And he had these suits and George Stephanopoulos in his memoirs bragged about how he was the fireman and put them out.

And he sent these, that creepy guy that was the Hollywood special investigator to intimidate, remember the woman who said her cat was killed,

all of that stuff.

Rich just pointed out that compared to a non-disclosure, it was nothing.

The non-disclosure agreement was nothing.

This doesn't have anything to do with a campaign federal violation.

The federal attorneys that are biased anyway, they work for the Biden DOJ, even they couldn't find anything.

It has what you said, it's an effort to A, exhaust him physically and psychologically, financially, gag him, keep him off the campaign trail, and get enough lurid information out there that traditional voters will not want to vote for him.

And that is a big question.

So these jurors are listening to this.

They've listened now that Stormy has admitted under oath that she hates Donald Trump.

She would dance if he was convicted.

She has no intention

of honoring a court-mandated fine on her part for her defamation.

civil suit which she lost and which part of the suit entailed her to pay the legal expenses of the person she accused.

Falsely.

Okay.

She said, I'm not going to pay that.

So, what's the impression on the jury?

Is that, wow, this porn store even went into his bathroom and started listing the contents of the bathroom and

explained what he did.

And she says she kind of blacked out, but she didn't lose consciousness.

And she was, it wasn't coerced, but.

She wanted to paint herself as the victim.

She wanted to say she was Eugene Carroll.

Yeah.

And she can't quite say it because she's already said it on TV that she wasn't.

Yeah.

In a 60-minutes interview.

Yeah, didn't she say I knew exactly what the score was when I went up to that something to that effect?

Her expertise was to have sexual intercourse on camera with thousands of different partners.

The big thing that I think came away from the salacious and irrelevant detail is if you're his wife, Melania, and Stormy

is of such disreputable character and past that she testifies that she had unprotected sex with your husband.

And I don't know.

I'm suggesting I don't believe.

She's already said in a disclosure form that she didn't.

And when she was asked so that she would honor that non-disclosure form before the election started, she thought there would be more money by breaking the contract than keeping it.

She wanted the $130,000 or whatever it was.

She said she never had sex with him.

So we don't know what happened, but that, I think, Malayne, that's going to hurt his marriage, obviously, because it's not just adultery, but it's.

So, the point I'm making, that was the point of all this.

So, what are we getting down to?

We're getting down to the jurors, and they have listened to this, and they're not stupid.

There's lawyers, teachers, and just they know that this is a sham, that this testimony had nothing to do with campaign financing violations.

And they know that a non-disclosure form agreement, I should say, and you list that as a legal expense, it is not a campaign expense for the reasons you said, that anybody would want to shield your family from what we're watching now.

And she agreed with it.

And they know that she's an utter scoundrel and can't keep her mouth shut.

So my point is, they have a choice.

They're either going to be jury

nullification people, They're going to nullify this.

They're going to say, I don't care what the evidence is.

I hate that Trump.

And I'm for Biden.

I'm a liberal teacher.

I'm a liberal lawyer.

I'm going to vote for him.

In other words, they're the OJ jury.

That's who they are.

Or

you're going to be someone like 12 Angry Men or the Oxbow incident.

You'll find one person, Oxbow, they still hung them, but you'll see one honest person.

And he'll say, I can't go through with this.

I don't like Trump.

I want him to lose.

But this is so overwhelmingly a farce that I'm going to vote to acquit, and that'll be a hung jury.

And by the way,

if this jury is hung

and they have to have a mistrial, the Fannie Willis will collapse.

That's already up on appeal.

And I don't see how that judge, everybody, I don't know why they praised that judge in Atlanta.

I thought he was just...

He was bending over backwards to get re-elected by showing you that he wasn't racially prejudiced or he was indulging.

These two people lied under oath.

How can you have a case go forward when the prosecutors are lying about their own

inappropriate sexual relationship and then billing,

I mean, using pay for one of them to go in junkets around the world and then claiming that black people have cash more than any other person.

It was just ridiculous.

And so That's on appeal, and I think in a dispassionate appellate court, there's a good chance they're going to throw that.

They're going to to say, Fanny,

you can't handle this.

And then I don't think another jurisdiction will want this case.

And Jack Smith, you know, if you bring in,

if you tell the court, your staff, your attorneys, that, yes, the FBI went into Donald Trump's, and you saw everything spread out all over the floor.

We took pictures, but then we put it back the way it should have been.

And then you're ready to go to trial.

And they said, uh-oh, we lied, and now it's probably going to be detectable.

Sorry, judge, that all that stuff that you saw, we spread around and we just threw it back in the box and it wasn't in the order in which Donald Trump had it from the National Archives.

What would you do then?

And then that's in addition to the cases already up on appeal for immunity.

And it's not just, well, if you give the president immunity, you can go out and shoot somebody.

No, there's things called impeachment.

You have methods to go after a president.

But if you don't have some type of immunity, i.e.,

against a prosecutor coming out of the DOJ of your presidential opponent at the time, this is going to happen all the time.

So I don't think Jack Smith is viable anymore.

He's biased.

His team has lied.

He's up on appeal.

He won't get the case before the election.

If Donald Trump is elected, he'll be irrelevant.

And Fannie Willis, I think the Court of Appeals, 50-50 chance she'll be removed.

Letita James will go back on appeal because, you know,

the Eighth Amendment says you cannot convict somebody and then punish them with unreasonable bail and punishment.

And that's exactly what the original $450 million with interest fine was.

And so if Alvin Bragg stumbles, he's their last great hope.

It's going to cascade.

He's a domino.

And if he falls, they're all going to, everybody's sick of it.

They're just going to say, you know what?

This was like Colorado getting him off the ballot on the state.

It looked funny at the time.

It was kind of neat.

We thought everybody would snowball.

Remember the lieutenant governor of California?

She said, hmm,

California is the biggest liberal state in the world.

And Colorado is going to get him off the ballot.

We're going to think about that.

And then even Gavin Newsom was ashamed and said, nope, not going to do that.

So my point is that this whole thing could just unravel.

And

the thing about the Democrats and left, they have no sense of cosmic justice, much less divine justice.

They don't believe in Yubis and Nemesis, what comes around, goes around, payback, karma.

They don't understand there's laws of the universe, whether you believe in God or not, that are there.

And what they have done

is so misused the jurisprudence of this country and so libeled it and smeared it and slandered it in front of the world and done things that no one else has ever done to destroy a political opponent that is going to hurt them.

And if people are out there and you're undecided about whether to vote, you should vote against Joe Biden for this legal circus.

And do not tell me he was not involved.

Not when Nathan Wade met him.

Not when Merrick Garland sent over a prosecutor.

No, no, no.

Not when

his

AG appointed Jack Smith, and they knew Jack Smith was a partisan.

He's knee-deep in it.

And remember, Joe Biden would

sort of like, I don't know, murder in the cathedral.

Who will relieve me of this man?

You know, who's going to get rid of Trump?

Why haven't they indicted him?

That's what he was said to.

Why hasn't American indicted him?

Whole thing is so sordid.

It really is.

Well, I wanted to go back to Israel for a second and Joe Biden's position with Israel.

He seems to be seesawing between an interview with CNN where he says he's taking away the

finances, as you just said.

But then he also gives a speech that is at a remembrance for the Holocaust, that he's an ironclad supporter of Israel.

And so I was wondering, he's seesawing back and forth, and is that going to work or is that going to turn more people against him?

What do you think?

I think it's going to turn more people against him.

If I were him, I wouldn't be doing that.

What would you be doing?

I would be supporting Israel and just give up those votes in Michigan.

Because

they're not really going to get him.

So

he's got, there's six to seven million Jewish Americans,

three to four million of voting age, overrepresented and being donors to political causes.

You're never going to get, you know, you're never going to lose Steven Spielberg and those guys, but you might lose Larry Summers or Bill Ackerman, right?

Ackman.

So there's people like that, and they're watching this.

And I don't, I agree with you.

I don't get the electoral calculus on all this.

And I think it's this,

because they don't do anything on principle, not these people.

So Biden has called in all of his Obama people.

Baroxer, you know, all the guys around there, Axelrod, they're all there.

Valerie Jarrett, and they're saying, well,

the Jewish vote, we're going to lose a lot of Jews and some money, but given what we have at Silicon Valley, and we outraised him three nights, it's not going to make that much difference.

And you know what?

We're going to win New York.

We're going to win Illinois, and we're going to win California.

And they're all solidly blue states, and that's where the great majority of Jewish voters are.

What are they going to do?

But we've got to win Michigan.

And somebody's going to say, well, they're not going to vote for you anyway.

They're so angry at you.

And they're only 245,000.

And they're just threatening you.

And why would you sell out the name of the United States to pander these people?

And he said, well, you may think that, but all they have to do is just suspend aid a little while.

I know there's going to be some idea of people get killed.

They're going to go in there.

They might have shortages.

Iran might be emboldened and say, look, the Americans have sold out the Jewish state.

Hezbollah may rep.

rap, but that's their problem.

That's what they're thinking right now.

But he's never, I mean, he's never,

he was the one that said, don't go and kill bin Laden.

It's too risky.

Let's divide, let's get out of Iraq and divide it up and give three Iraqs, one the Kurds, one the Shia, one of the Sunnis.

Everything he's always said, as

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said, has always been wrong on every major decision.

I think people, I know that I'm beating this dead horse, but I think everybody has to re-envision who Joe Biden is.

He is from a solidly middle, upper-middle-class family

who has lied about every aspect.

He said he was poor.

He grew up with Puerto Ricans.

He went to synagogues.

He was poor.

He was the first person in his family to go to college.

He was at the top of his lost class.

He was a star athlete that had a scholarship to the Naval.

Those are all lies.

And he is a crook.

If you look at James Biden or Frank Biden or Joe Biden, their whole purpose to be was to use Joe Biden's political career, which

was all of his career.

He had no career other than politics, to leverage domestic and foreign people to sell out for special favors, quid pro quo.

And then there's another element that I'll be very explicit.

This is a man that when he's giving a lecture,

every time he's giving a lecture, when he scans the audience and he sees a cute 12-year-old or 13-year-old, he says, Hi, honey.

Anybody ever tell you have beautiful eyes?

Or he goes to the tarmac and Finland and he said, Oh, look at that little girl.

Let me just gobble her neck.

Or let me just squeeze this.

I pointed your dad.

Let me just squeeze your shoulders.

And this is the nice part.

Okay, you're grossing me out, but go ahead.

Okay.

Oh, I'm stark naked in front of a female Secret Service woman.

Oh, sorry.

Oh, I take showers with my daughter a little bit too long.

Oh, Hunter is a complete pervert.

Oh, Frank Biden is taking selfies that end up of him naked on gay porns.

There's something wrong with that.

There really is.

There really is.

There really, really is.

And I'm not even getting the tarot read, and everybody's, well, look at Trump.

I know, but Donald Trump is the classic

wandering male alpha male, which has its own problems, but not like this.

Not like this.

JFK was not like this.

Bill Clinton was not like this.

Bill Crintley was a Randy, promiscuous skirt chaser his whole life, still is, an Epstein colleague.

But he didn't get into these sick things like Joe Biden, like Joe Biden.

I don't know if you read Rich's column, you got the impression, as we always get with the Clintons, that they threatened the women that Bill Clinton had been with, with

destroying them, and everybody goes, hmm, what does that mean with the Clintons?

I don't believe when Paula Jones went up to his room,

what did she think was going to do?

Of course.

So they engaged, I think, in a consensual relationship.

Asymmetric, given the power difference.

She said he was forced on her.

But all of these, Kathleen Willey, she was the one I was trying to think of that said that they killed her cat and hung it from a tree.

Yeah.

So,

but the methods are a little bit.

Yeah, the actual acts tends to be consistent.

Well,

everybody's going to say, Victor, you're an idiot.

Don't you remember Juanita Roderick?

Remember, he bit her lip so bad that it was bleeding?

And

she filed suit against him.

She was the one that operated or was involved in a rest home, and he saw her in a hotel room.

And then

he said when he walked out, he just put some ice on that, according to her.

So maybe I'm wrong about that, but I don't think he has meets, descended into the level of depravity of Joe Biden.

Yeah, but I was thinking of the methods by which they suppressed things,

as we all think, like the cat being

killed and stuff.

So that was, Rich's column kind of made illusion to the correctly.

Rich's column was, it wasn't lured.

He was just saying by these new standards that if you are accused of having an extramarital affair and you don't want to embarrass people and you have a mutually agreed to

non-disclosure and the woman is paid off, then she violates it

and she blabbers to make even more money.

That was the cross-examination point,

and then she's sued.

And she, although it's for defamation, and she won't pay the court order fine.

He said this is nothing compared to the efforts that the

Clinton campaign in 1992 and again in 96 took.

And this is not according to Rich, it's according to George Stephanopoulos' own

memoir and this

eruption of bimbos, the bimbo eruption.

Yeah, and the other thing that was in that article that was interesting is

he quoted George Stephanopoulos basically saying that he wasn't going to allow this bimbo eruption to destroy his own career.

And then he said, and of course I thought Clinton had a lot of potential.

Yeah, well.

There you have it.

This is

I don't know.

I just have to believe that I just don't believe the American people are going to look at all this, all the lawfare we've talked about today, all of this stuff on Joe Biden, and we haven't even gotten into his decrepitude.

You know, even little things.

I mean, I'm 70, so I understand I have memory lapses and stuff.

But when he was with Mark Hamill, that was a really embarrassing scene.

Luke Skywalker.

Yeah, I know.

They were both weird-looking and acting.

And then

he was trying to say, Let the force be with you, and he said, Let the four be with you.

Yeah,

it's it's insidious.

He

gets back to Robert Hur.

Basically, Robert Hurr told the nation, he is guilty of sin, but he's in a very unimportant job.

So

it's very important to be cognizant when you're in front of a jury.

But if he can't do that, at least he can be president of the United States.

And that's what's so strange about it.

And maybe it's really changed my view of the President of the United States.

Could he be an Uber driver?

No.

Could he be a pharmacist?

Somni, you don't want to go up in skills.

Could he be an accountant?

No.

No.

Could he be a teacher, you know, talking without no.

So he couldn't do any of these things.

No.

But it tells you that he can be president, which does that mean it's the easiest job in the United States?

Because you just go to work three days a week.

There's nobody who says, you're fired.

You missed work.

Delegation.

There's nobody counting on his vacation hours.

He can do whatever he wants.

And he has all these delegates that he just tells people what to do.

And they run the country on autopilot.

We don't need a president.

We have a virtual president, a construct.

That's a scary thought, just the same.

Well, it's scary because

he's supposed to be the moral and political leader of the country.

So when you have an October 7th, he's supposed to give a rational, passionate speech.

And he's supposed to, you know, what he should do right now is he should just get up and say, look,

Israel is trying to stop collateral damage, and they try to stop it to the extent they're taking fatalities that otherwise no other country would do.

But all that has to happen, and I'm speaking now to the people on the campuses of this country, I'm speaking to the citizens of Gaza, and I'm speaking to you, Hamas, and I'm speaking to the wider Middle East.

Hamash, you went in on October 7th and did things the world hasn't seen since the medieval period.

It was medieval what you did to 1,200 innocent Jewish civilians.

And right now, given all that's transpired, we can stop the bloodletting.

All you have to do in Gaza is insist

that your elected dictatorship turn over the architects who were involved on October 7th, A, release all the hostages,

and have Hamas leave the tunnels underneath the mosque, the schools, the hospitals, so that all of you will not be collateral damaged.

Three-quarters of Gaza has been pacified by the Israelis.

Hamas, go back down there on your own and fight it out with the IDF.

And if you do not want to fight it out with the IDF, then turn over the people who were the murderers and release the hospitals, and there won't be one more dead person.

And they can't even do that.

No.

They can't do that.

And their ceasefire deal was kind of empty, and yet the Biden administration was encouraging Netanyahu.

But, you know, you said earlier in this discussion that Biden's made a mockery of our own diplomacy, and that probably helps Bibi just plow ahead with what he's got to do, and that is end the existence of Hamas.

He has to.

And the funny thing is they keep trying to overthrow the elected government of Israel, just like it was a South American tinhorn dictatorship.

And you know what?

They love Gant and Bennett, right?

The two rivals that are in the cabinet.

If Netanyahu were to be overthrown tomorrow and that government dissipates, and either one of those, it would be politically impossible for either one of them to not destroy Hamas.

They would do nothing different.

They might be able to get along with their ideological similars in Washington, but they would have to do the same thing.

People don't realize that this particular

terrorist mass murdering spree was aimed at the most left-wing elements of Israeli society.

So when in that national conversation, I know people blame BB because of the hostages and all that, but the majority now

say Hamas must be destroyed because the left is saying that.

Because the left said, we had the kibbutz system.

We hired people to in from Gaza.

We paid them more than market wages.

When they were injured, we took them to our own medical facilities.

We befriended them, and yet they tagged along and helped butcher us.

I can't live with these people in a two-state solution.

That's what the left is saying.

Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break again and then come back and talk a little bit about the university's

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Well, Victor, the universities are what the tragedy this week is that some of these universities are caving to the protesters.

And so there was a very good article on Brown, Northwestern, and Rutgers, where they were trying to make agreements with the leaders of the encampments.

And their agreements included things like divesting from businesses that have interests in Israel, funding visiting Palestinian professors and students, and Palestinian advisory councils to guide the administration.

And so lots of...

Please use the proper vocabulary when talking about the Gaza war, such as settler and genocide.

We insist.

Thank you.

And the fellowships, as you said.

It's all about career, isn't it?

And money.

So

to condense what you just said, because these were mostly Palestinian students, right?

Yes.

Middle Eastern students.

So let me put it,

translate it into Selmanese.

Oh, no.

As a citizen of Selma,

it is something along the following.

Hey,

we left our God-forsaken Gaza, and we left our God-forsaken

West Bank.

and Jordan.

And some of us, we left our really wealthy Saudi Kuwait ghatr, but otherwise Godforsaken, or we wouldn't be over here.

And we came over here to get an education.

We cannot get there.

We don't really care about the education.

We don't believe in it.

But we wanted the Columbia or Harvard or Yale brand on our rear end so that we could go back and brag and lord it over everybody that we have an Ivy League or a Stanford degree and therefore we should be high in the corrupt bureaucracy of Jordan or whatever.

That said, we are a guest in your country, but we're going to keep

breaking breaking into Hamilton Hall and we're going to desecrate it.

We're going to go into the Portland State Library and destroy it.

We're going to defecate on your campus.

We're going to call your own policemen pigs.

We're going to make your janitors and your maintenance people clean up all the crap we left behind as if we're crude homeless people.

Now, that's what we're telling you right now.

And if you don't listen to us, We're going to keep it up.

And by the way, we're anti-Semites.

Keep that in mind.

We hate Jews.

We chase them into libraries, we rough them up, we hit the panatas and say beat the Jew.

We do all of these things.

We do not like Jews.

You understand that?

So,

and there is no difference between us and Hamas.

We are pro-Hamas.

You get it?

We say on our campuses, we want 100 October 7, 1,000, 10,000 pro-Hamas.

So this is who we are, and you're going to You're going to reward us for occupying your campus.

And we want more of us to come over.

More students, more faculty, and we want you to pay for it.

Because you see, we love your country.

Well, we actually hate it.

We hate everything it stands for.

But we like the money, and we like the popular cool culture.

We like

the idea that women are emancipated.

We like the way that you can say the F-word about anything you want.

We like the idea you don't get arrested for breaking the law.

And we like we can do anything we want that would get us arrested or killed at our homeland.

But we still like our homeland a lot better as long as we're not there.

So we're going to come over to your country and we're going to revile you and smear you and slander you and we're going to praise the country, but we don't ever think we want to go back there.

We want to live in a little enclave.

We want to take our little Jordan or West Bank or Gaza and create it here on campus.

And we don't want any Jews near it, just like we don't let Jews into Gaza, just like we don't want Jews into Jordan.

We've already ethnically cleansed them.

We took a million out of the Middle East.

Took us 30 years, but they're gone.

So that's what we want here.

So

you're going to hire on the basis of race and religion.

We want Palestinian students.

They have to be Arab and

they have to be

pro-Hamas.

They have to be Arab.

They have to be Muslims.

They have to be pro-Hamas.

Nobody else.

Now, I know we have a lot of useful idiots here: wealthy white kids, wealthy Asian kids, wealthy black kids.

That's not who we want to give fellowships to.

We want our people, my people,

as they say, and for whom the bells go, my tribe, my village.

We want them.

And we want faculty.

And we want our vocabulary.

And these little administrators go, oh, well,

now if we do that,

would you please promise not to disrupt our graduation ceremonies?

Well, we like to get our diplomas, yes.

If you give us everything we want and we can humiliate you in front of your peers and we can de facto run your university, there's nothing wrong with having us getting our BAs and MAs and PhDs and MDs and JDs so that we can be the elite of the Middle East.

That's why we came over here.

So we have no problem.

And that's what the negotiation's about.

That's it.

And who would ever agree to that?

Only an academic.

Only an academic who's, you know, I kind of like the

president of the University of Chicago.

He's Greek American.

I have a soft spot for Greek Americans.

But he gave a long explanation

why he negotiated to get the protesters out and the concessions.

And he just said, and I did this on the one hand, and because of this, and there was this, and this, he just,

you wanted to say, be quiet.

You don't have to keep rambling and giving you all these contextualizations.

You caved in and you're going to incite it again and again and again.

The only $64,000 question I have about the whole thing is

they are going to turn the 1968

Chicago riot into child's play

when they have a return to the Democratic Convention in Chicago.

The only thing I'm saying, so

the vacation starts, right?

Most of them canceled graduation and they gave everybody A's and let them go home for finals.

So they're all going to go back and filter back into the street.

And Israel probably had timed their re-entry into Gaza in fighting mode to coincide with the vacation of the Western campus.

But I think

they're going to use that interlude to really, really organize and to get money and to be well-funded.

And they're going to converge on Chicago unless Joe Biden just simply

bows out of the race, promises not to run, or just gives the Palestinians so much and cuts Israel off entirely.

And the way that they think, and I know that I'm being controversial here for listeners, but I really do believe

that their attitude, Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, all of the Obama people, is if Israel would just disappear, we have no problem.

Because then there's nobody to get angry at.

And we can deal with all these Arabs and all the oil and everything.

We can play the Iranians off against the Arabs.

We don't have any problem.

It's Israel that causes us problem.

They identify with us.

We identify with them.

And then they cause all these tensions.

I say that because when Joe Biden said a very strange but revealing thing that people didn't really remark of, I've mentioned it once or twice on this podcast, and he said, in reference to the Islamic Jihad rocket that hit the hospital and didn't kill 600 people, hit the parking lot.

He said, you know, it's just the old saying, you've got to shoot straight.

You've got to shoot straight.

What he was really saying is Islamic Jihad wanted to get in on the killing, and they felt they had been outdone by October 7th.

So they started to launch their own rockets into civilian centers.

Now, if that rocket had just stayed on course and killed some Jews in Tel Aviv and not fallen short and hit the hospital and then been indirectly blamed on me, I wouldn't have to be over in the Middle East mending bridges.

That was the message that he gave.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, we're at the end of our podcast today, and I have a couple of comments from a post that you made on X.

that was about what that was titled The Campus Cry Bullies.

And one woman wrote, and her name is Nanny X,

what am I learning after reading your thing?

She said, university education means little in real life.

Trade schools, military, police, and fire departments are the most respectable.

And there was another one.

Oh, yeah, I like this guy.

In short, he's summing up your thing.

It's cicadas season again.

Yawn, just noise for the sake of noise, nothing more.

So I think the weatherman says

we might get rain today.

So what is the point?

What is the point?

Like, that's just another boring episode in psychopaths that are protesting on campus.

I don't know.

What would you say?

All I know is I just look at their demands.

I want

a morning after pill.

I want an HIV.

What does that mean?

I had unprotected sex last night with somebody I've never met before, and they look

dubious.

So I'm going to put it on the list.

So I might be pregnant, or I might have HIV, so I need some, I need to get some.

And then they had a dental dam,

whatever that is.

I don't know what it is.

I guess that was some type of oral sex.

Appurtinances.

Yeah.

And so, and then they wanted gluten-free.

One group wanted gluten-free

and vegan-free.

Vegan.

And so there are these,

again, it's just

they're just little entitled Bolsheviks.

That's all they are.

They're just little tiny 1793 Jacobins.

They're the same type of people.

They're the

upper class.

Yeah.

And the Robespierre all over again.

Yeah, they act like they're really tough, but they're just like whining children.

Do you remember that guy that came running with his little shield from

garbage?

And the cop just stuck his hands out and the guy fell down.

His little Teflon shield just bounced him off like he was a bothersome gnat.

And then there was that woman, remember from Arizona State?

She picked her up.

Oh my God, I just lost that.

I can't graduate all that work.

And then he said, well, would you do it over again?

Yes, I would.

They didn't ask the key question.

What was it that you would do over again?

What exactly are you protesting against?

Would you please tell us, useful idiot?

You don't even know what you're protesting.

Are you talking about the Bakersfield woman?

Because I'm thinking of that woman that was carried by the girl.

This was Arizona State University.

The woman, there was two.

There was the professor who went in and tapped the guy, the policeman, on the helmet to stop him from arresting.

And then the policeman basically said, you've assaulted a police officer.

And she went into a fetal position.

I'm a professor.

I'm a professor.

You're going to hurt me.

You're going to hurt me.

And he picked her up.

Oh, I don't know.

I think he accompanied her.

That was another one where he just picked her lockstock girl up and took her off.

I mean, nobody commended that cop for being so strong.

I'm like, nobody could do that.

I don't know how he did that.

These people are

these people are very, I don't like to get to hyper the reductio ad hitlerum argument, but I tell you, these people are little Nazis.

They really are.

These Middle Eastern students.

They're anti-Semitic, they're violent, they're bullies, and they feel they can, I mean,

what do they not do?

They went into Central Park and desecrated a World War I monument of their host.

They went into the National Cemetery in Westwood, all those beautiful, and they desecrated that.

They desecrated Arlington.

They broke into a solemn Easter service at St.

Patrick's Cathedral.

If anybody did that at a mosque, What would happen if you went into, oh, I don't know, Egypt or Jordan, and you went into a military cemetery and you threw a bunch of stuff and put an American flag and started saying, USA, USA.

I mean, these people have this incredible arrogance and narcissism about them.

And, you know, you mentioned

we've talked about Sweden.

Could I just finish in our little Swedish chauvinistic moment?

Yes, go ahead.

Well, as I said before, I grew up on rye crackers, Electro-Elex vacuum cleaners, old ladybug 544 Bolvos,

and the idea of Swedish steel,

whatever that was.

And I used to kid my dad because he said, Victor, now when you take the, I was 15 and I was driving, he says, now remember, this car does not dent easily because it's made of Swedish steel.

And I said to him, I said, when I, I was really an awful smart Alec, but I came back in college and

I dented the Bobo.

And he goes, well, you dented it.

And I said, Dad, I know it's Swedish steel, but you've got to remember, in World War II, the Swedes sold iron ore to the Nazis, and they demanded free transportation and shipping.

So in other words, it wasn't just enough to profit.

They made the Germans.

And my dad said, it was really funny.

We had these very funny conversations.

Well, of course they did, because that was the best steel in the world.

And you know, the Tiger and Panther tanks had Swedish steel, iron ore,

iron ore from swedish iron ore it was funny

because he was very much a swedish chauvinist so i was very hurt to hear that uppsala and areas malmo and areas in sweden are being completely overrun yeah and the swedes themselves saying this is unsustainable our civilization is at stake with rape assault murder yeah maybe we can talk about that for the saturday and they just they just welcomed all these people in yeah i know and the and the people came to destroy them yeah that's what's so weird about this whole thing, this whole Western immigration.

It's a suicidal impulse.

It's kind of like the drug person who ODs, or the homeless person that just,

maybe they have mental problems, they just say, I'm done with my law career or my teacher, I'm just going to go live in the street.

Or the person who just says, I'm going to inject myself.

my teeth will fall.

That's what

these societies are doing.

They're just saying, you know, I'm so decadent, I'm so leisured, I'm so affluent, I'm just going to destroy myself, commit suicide.

I'm just going to invite all these people in, let them have it.

And that's what they're doing.

Yeah.

Victor,

we've got more to talk about for our Saturday episode, but you're also going to do another

segment on

the Roman, late Roman Christian philosophers, I believe.

Boethius and...

I like to talk about Boethius' consolation of philosophy.

Yeah.

He wrote that in his little jail cell when he was on his way to be either decapitated or hung.

It's a very wonderful little treatise.

It's about him talking to Philosophia as if she's a person.

It's patterned after Socratic dialogue.

So stay.

He wrote for tunai.

Yeah.

So come back this weekend for another episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis Hansen, and we're signing off.

Thank you very much for everybody for listening.

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