The Case Against Fani and Finding Trump

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It's Saturday, the 16th of March. This particular episode should be up

on Tuesday, the 19th. We are in the immediate aftermath of the Fannie Willis judicial decision that the judge rendered

down in Georgia. Pick one, Fanny, you go or your lover boy go.

And Victor, we'll get your thoughts on that, on West Point altering its motto, maybe a little on college sports, and maybe a little about, are we going to see a summer of madness in America?

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So, Victor, first I want to apologize in advance.

Our listeners may hear my dogs in the background today. Nothing can be done about it, but that's a little

at-home, homebred authenticity to this particular show that we do. Maybe your dogs will be in the background too, Victor.
I don't know,

on your end. Victor, big news

coming from yesterday. And we are recording, again, we're recording on Saturday the 16th.
This episode is up on the 19th, but yesterday, on the Ides of March, the 15th,

Judge Scott McAfee, Superior Court judge down in Georgia, rendered his verdict on the Fannie Willis case,

and he had some very harsh things to say about the Fulton County District Attorney and her romance with Nathan Wade. But

one of the things he ordered was either you're down, Fanny, or Nathan's out, and Nathan Wade is out.

Victor, Fanny Willis lives to continue to prosecute Donald Trump in this, one of the many cases of lawfare against the former president. Your thoughts, Victor, on Judge McAfee's ruling.

Well, he cut off the tail and left the head of the snake. Nathan Wade didn't do one thing that Fannie Willis did not tell him to do.
You got to remember, this was all cooked up by her.

She hired her paramour, married paramour,

before

and was involved with him.

And then she appointed him to a job that he had no qualification, never tried a felon, never criminal case, and put him in charge as the head prosecutor of a very complex bootstrapped racketeering charge, which he was completely unable to really understand or prosecute.

And then they had this relationship.

She's admitted,

and he's admitted that they did not have this relationship. That is under oath.

Two witnesses have come forward and said that is an abject lie and that that they were aware that both by visual and by assertions from Nathan Wade himself. They brought in another person,

Terrence Bradley, associate of Nathan Wade.

He was the famous guy when they asked him, did they have a relationship before he was appointed, as you said in a text to a lawyer? He just went blank for about a minute and then he said, no.

which was pretty clear he was lying. And then there was the

telephone evidence that when they said they were not

together in a condo, there was, you know,

dozens of phone pings where they were together all day, all night. There was the, what was it, 10,000 texts? They were doing six texts an hour.

I think it was an hour every for the last two or three years. So she was a liar.

And he was the accomplice. And then they got together and made their stories.
So she should have been the first person to to relieve off the case.

And then there should have been a criminal referral by someone in her office that she could committed perjury under oath. And there was nothing.

And a very embarrassing sign of projection, the judge, do you remember, Jack? He said, and I just want to say that

If there's rumors about that, that this upcoming election is going to affect me, I wrote this rough draft first.

And I'm thinking, yeah, but is the rough draft the final draft? No.

So it was really embarrassing, and it was sort of a pattern here where these grandees, they always say something like, guilty,

but not guilty. In other words,

Because I'm not going to charge Fanny Willis or take her off the case, I'm going to really get mean in my editorialization and say, Miss Lev, this was on good. This is not good.

Shut the blank up, Judge. We don't want to hear your editorialization.
We just want to know one thing. Did she perjure herself,

in your opinion? And if she did, is she going to face consequences? And for you to say that she likely perjured herself, but she's not going to face consequences is a travesty.

And it's something that is now endemic these two standards of justice. Robert Hurrican.

I was, as I told Sammy, I was driving four hours to work. That was the most pathetic testimony.
I mean, he's polished.

He knows everything, but he basically came right out and said, A, Joe Biden may have had these classified files going back to his Senate career, 50 years, perhaps.

He put them not one, not two, not three, in nine different locations. They were sloppy, as his photographs suggested, boxed dilapidated.

He admitted that he knew the files were classified and therefore unlawfully in his possession in 2017

when he remarked such to a ghostwriter. He admitted that the ghostwriter broke the law when these tapes of that admission were requested.
The ghostwriter did what? He erased evidence, erased evidence.

And they had to recover Joe Biden's confession through forensics. And then he admitted as well that Joe Biden

was using these tapes for two purposes. One to enhance his political career and once to enhance an $8 million book deal of his memoirs.

Okay, after giving all of that damning evidence, which is more damning than anything Jack Smith is going to get on Donald Trump, because Donald Trump had one location for two years, not 50, and he had presidential authority in theory to declassify them.

And we're going after Trump aides. And did we go at, did her go after the ghostwriter who destroyed subpoenaed events? No, he didn't, Jack.
You know what he said?

Well, I was afraid they were going to be hacked. So I did you a favor and erased them.
Oh, yeah. Try that in any

of you people who are

indicted. Try that and see how far that gets you with a federal attorney.
So, in other words, he did exactly what the judge did.

He let them go, even though there was criminal activity, these targets, these defendants. And then they give a bone.
But,

but,

but,

we couldn't because a jury would think that he's non-compos muentez. He's a nice bumbling old man with no memory.
And that was what the Democrats wanted. So, what they did for four hours was seize,

How dare you say the president of the United States, you're a partisan. And then what they were really saying is, thank you, Mr.
Hur.

We can deal with your editorialization about the president, but what we can't deal with is an indictment of Joe Biden. In other words, Hurr was also playing that game.

He was thinking to, he put his finger in the wind and he thought,

am I going to get more flack from saying the president of the United States is debilitated to the point that he couldn't remember anything?

Or

am I going to get more flack from indicting him as he should be indicted? And he decided that he would throw a bone. By the way,

there was a couple of articles in there that have come out this week about the, and I went back and looked at that testimony that her

had had with Biden. And the person's argument was that he had a diminutive,

as some people with Alzheimer's do, absorption with sex. And he said some very bizarre things, Jack.
He said, I hope you don't find a picture of Jill in a bikini. She's really a good-looking woman.

And did I tell you that when I was a lawyer, I defended a guy whose penis was cut off? It was weird.

And it just gets back to that theme, that trope we've talked about, these Bidens, whether it's Joe swimming and nude in front of a female Secret Service agent or his daughter saying that they took showers together a little bit too long for

a

teenage girl

showering with daddy. I'm sick.

And then we had Frank Biden with the full funnel nude selfies that showed up,

I guess, in a gay porn site. And then we had Hunter taking pictures of his phallus.

And then we had, of course, the hare sniffing and blowing. That family's got something wrong with him.
I don't know what it is. But

the other thing is, this is a pattern now. I think everybody is sick of it.
With Hillary, it was the James Comey. Remember? Well,

she did transmit classified documents over a home-cooked server, and that was illegal. And she seems to have broken communication devices, the hard drives, and we can't find these emails.

They're destroyed. However, I don't think a jury would convict a leading presidential candidate.
Guilty, but not guilty. Reminds me of 2011, James Clapper.

director of national intelligence before Congress under oath. Do we have have any collateral damage? Do we kill civilians? Director Clapper on the Pakistan border when we use these drones.

No, no, there's not one. Oh, sorry, I was lying when they found out.
You found out that I was lying, but I gave you the least truthful answer. Was he sacked? No.
He got a very lucrative cable TV

analysis position.

And then we had John Brennan when he was the national

security homeland or national security consultant to Obama, not the national security director, but homeland security

advisor to Obama. And they said to him, have you, do you have any knowledge?

Excuse me. They asked Clapper,

was there

any

drone assassination? He said none. I think

they asked Brennan, I mean, Clapper lied when he said the NSA had never spied on anybody. So Clapper lied and said it hadn't lied on anybody.
They didn't do anything. He retired.

He got into the Russian collusion hoax, got a nice big fat consultantship. Then Brennan came in two years later and he lied about the targeted assassinations on the

Pakistani border. But the worst, Jack, was when he said in 2013 he had been promoted,

promoted to the CIA directorship after he lied. And he was asked if the CIA spied on staff computers of senators.
And he said no.

And then he apologized. Then we had Andrew McCabe.
Remember him, the interim FBI director? If you read the

Inspector General's report, it says that on four times he was asked flat out, are you the source of leaks about these collusion matters? No, absolutely not. Of course not.

Bill Barr didn't do anything to him. He lied four times.

And so now we get to

the,

you know, we're getting to the Bidens and Joe Biden,

Hunter Biden, we know, did not pay taxes. And what did they do? They slow walked that until a judge caught him.

But even when the judge caught the slow walking of Hunter's prosecution, the statute of limitations had expired. So he's not going to face the full array of crimes that he committed.

And of course, Joe Biden got off, as I mentioned at the first. So

what is behind all this?

And it's really, the message is

prosecutors who investigate

elites, mostly left-wing elites or people working for the left,

try to salvage their reputations by editorializing they did things terribly wrong, and then they let them off scot-free. And we saw that in the Fannie Willis case.

And that

has destroyed the confidence in the American legal system.

Nobody's going to say that to Donald Trump. Nobody's going to say, well, of course you move stuff around.

And of course

you admitted to such six years ago. But you know what?

We don't indict ex-presidents and the leading presidential candidate. Of course, Donald Trump, you lie, but

we don't care if Clapper or Brennan or McCabe lies under oath. So we're not going to care.
They don't do that.

And that's why people are really, really not only furious, but they're sick. They're tired of it.
They do not want another special counsel or another

lawyer or prosecutor or federal attorney saying, we did an extensive investigation. We found out they were lying through the teeth.

They perjured themselves, but they're not going to be indicted because no jury would want to indict them. They're too senile.

They'd be too sympathetic. They're too important.
And

it's just

this, all this comes, Jack, about Fannie Wills at the same time. They're going after the January 6th people.
They're up to 2,500 convictions. They're going to go after more of them now.

Yeah,

there's a headline in

the

new edition of the Epoch Times. It says, after a pause, Jan 6 arrests are now sharply increasing.

And the subhead, the FBI is making arrests and the DOJ is filing charges at the quickest pace in three years, pushing the expected total. up to 2,150 arrests by 2026.

Yeah, well, you know what they should do? They should just pass a law then, if this is what America is.

They should just pass a law that waives the statute limitations, as they did in New York for Eugene Carroll to re-file against Trump.

But they should just say, we're going to go look at the 14,000 arrests, the vast majority let off by left-wing prosecutors in 2020 that were looting and burning and killing and assaulting.

We're going to look at all of those, and we're going to go back and revisit them.

And that's the only thing they're going to understand. Or we're going to go look at the pro-Hamas demonstrators this year who swarmed the Capitol Rotunda and shut down business.
Or Mr.

FBI Director Ray, why don't you get a team and look at all the photographs, videos on the night of the State of the Union in which protesters swarmed and intentionally blocked the route of the President of the United States and delayed his address to the people of the United States for 26 minutes.

Talk about obstruction of a government agency or a government act and nothing, nothing.

So

it's just two standards of justice. It's just sickening.
Well, Victor, other things that are sickening are coming out of West Point, and we'll get to that right after these important messages.

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Victor, here's a headline

from the college. Well, well, not the headline, but the first two paragraphs of an article from the College Fix.
Great website. By the way, folks, you should check it out regularly.

United States Military Academy has removed the words duty, honor, country from its mission statement. A move approved by Secretary of the Army Christine Wormuth and Army Chief of Staff Randy George.

The previous mission statement read,

to educate, train, and inspire the Corps of Cadets so that each graduate is a commissioned leader of character committed to the values of duty, honor, country, and prepared for a career.

of professional excellence and service to the nation as an officer in the United States Army. Victor, the new one reads, quote,

to build, educate, train, and inspire the Corps of Cadets to be commissioned leaders of character, committed to the Army values, I don't know what they are, and ready, maybe it's like getting a pot of gold at the end, and ready for a lifetime of professional excellence and service to the Army and nation.

Victor, no more duty on our country. What was wrong with it? What was wrong with it? Is it an act,

I mean, of commission or ill mission? Did they think it wasn't full enough, the definition, or was it something in it, duty on our country? So let's go through it.

So in this new Marxist paradigm, is duty pathological? Is that judgmental, racist, homophobic, nativist, tribal? I don't know. And honor? Is honor an old-fashioned virtue? Who's to say

you deserve honor? Or what did you do to get honor? And then country.

You know, we're back to the poor kid. Is it in southern Indiana that

had a flag that he drove to school on his pickup, and

they said he was insubordinate. Is it because you can't really honor your country? Because some recent people who came here don't like the country.
You don't want to offend the squad. Is that it?

I don't know. I had this ongoing argument with military officers of a high rank.

And I'm afraid I'm not very well liked by them. But they keep telling me that the 40,000-person shortfall in the Army, Air Force,

even the Marines now, is not because of PC, woke, etc. It's because of gangs and obesity and a tight job market.
And I say it is either woke or it's the perception of woke.

Because when you look at the falloff demographically, Latinos, Asians, African Americans, women, gay, they're all about on schedule. It's one demographic, white males.
They're not joining.

They almost completely explain.

And part of it is they were demonized by Mr. Milley and Lloyd Austin when they said they were going to invest for white supremacy cabals.
And then they didn't really publicize the results.

They found nothing.

And

this is aimed, I think, at the traditional army. And it's not going to win those people back.

They were inordinately targeted for not getting vaccinations, even though many of them had natural immunity, and they drummed out 8,400 of them.

And so I'm really worried about it because I don't think they're going to come back. And some of them have three or four generations in their family of noble service.

And as I keep pounding away, they die at twice their numbers in the demographic in Iraq and Afghanistan. And, you know, nobody ever says to them, you know,

we want an America that looks like us. So, you know, you guys are in combat too much.
We've noticed that you're hogging all the glory in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Now you're dying at twice your numbers, but it's time to let other groups go in there and die with you. Nobody says that.

Nobody wants to do that, apparently. I don't see the Army side.
The Army, the Navy, the military, the Pentagon, they will go after every disproportionate, disparate impact rubric they can.

Promotions, pilots,

anything,

colonels, majors, but they don't ever touch that subject. No, no, no, no, no.

Two things, Victor. One is the tight job market is kind of BS.
I mean,

I believe, I assume you do too, when you see the unemployment rate.

Well, there's one rate the government says, but it does not account for all the many millions of people who've totally dropped out of the job market. Yeah, just look.

All you have to do is look at the labor participation rate. It's almost,

it's getting down to 62% or below. Right.
And you couple that with

a generation of war on boys,

and you layer on top of that million.

hunting for white supremacists, et cetera. This is a natural.

The dots are easily connected here i i don't know what your military buddies are

are thinking but uh

i i don't know i i don't know i don't know where we're

i don't know where we're going because uh we all know what's causing it and it's this war on white males and they're they're not they're reacting to it it's white middle class male it's the deplorables it's the irredeemables it's

barack Obama's

clingers. It's Joe Biden's dregs, Joe Biden's chomps, it's John McCain's crazies.

They're just demonized. It's the East Palestine, Ohio people.

And

when they look at what happened in Afghanistan,

and that hurt as well. So

I just don't think it's going to get better, not until there's a new leadership that says we're going to be racially blind, gender blind. We're not going to promote one group over another.

We're going to be based entirely on merit. And the method that we will use to adjudicate

recruitment, promotion, evaluation will be merit. And merit in the military means battlefield efficacy, the degree which you can motivate soldiers and make them get the job done.

And we have not got the job done in a lot of places in the world lately.

And, you know, it gets back to what Sammy and I were talking about.

United Airlines can say all they want, but I wrote an article on Thursday where I outlined seven, seven United-Boeing near misses, wheels falling off,

sudden

hydraulics failures,

returning to the airport.

taxiing off the runway into

grassy pastures, and then I juxtaposed it with her

CEO saying that half of all pilots in X numbers of years are going to be diversity, equity, and inclusion candidates.

And I have to assume that when you don't say merit, merit, merit, merit only, you're going to have problems like that. I got a letter and said, you know, that's cause and effect.

This is just a coincidence to have seven

serious near-misses or accident, almost accidents, or mission failures, or pilot air, or FAA air or Boeing mechanics air.

And then I filed it and there was one, I don't know if you saw it, just yesterday where a United Boeing panel fell off.

Not real fall off, so what?

You know,

attendant went into a, you know, 787, kind of pushed the wrong switch and it made the pilots, you know,

his seat went up a little bit and he hit the controls and 50 people were injured.

Things happen.

You know, a door comes off on Alaska and Airlines. That's no big deal.

You know, if we get, if we taxi, when we land and we taxi in the terminal 99 times out of 100, big deal. Every once in a while, we're going to muss our hair up and get into a pasture.

But, you know, things happen.

Gosh.

We forget a lot as a society, Victor. Like in New York, where I was born now, people forget about what crime had been like once upon a time.

And I think we forget about just how far flight safety has come over the years. We go back 40 years,

the number of crashes and people died from airplane crashes in America was

stark relative to today. But we're regressing.

It's miraculous, I think, to get an aluminum tube and fly, but it takes it takes a lot of expertise to do that. If we're backsliding on it, those ugly headlines are going to reappear again.

Yeah, I know it. I know it.
And

you lose the confidence of people.

If Boeing can't guarantee that you're going to be safe or the FAA,

it keeps bragging about it's going to look like America, but it can't guarantee that the air traffic controllers are

not 99%, but 100%

capable of directing all of these jets. And if you were United and in 10 days, you have seven or eight of these incidents, which any one of them could have got a lot of people killed,

then,

and they always get angry about the messenger that gives the message, never the message. Right.
No, this is,

if you notice this little trope. How dare they right say this? They're just trying to demonize people of color.
No, no, no, no, no.

You ask people who are flying up, who are quote-unquote people of color, and you say, would you like a pilot who has the 10 years experience and has never had any incident versus a younger pilot that has had some incidents, but he looks like you or she, I think

that would be a no-brainer. Yeah, big lee, big lee.

Hey, Victor, there's a great, well, I know, great, it's an important and interesting piece in today's Wall Street Journal about

expectations of what might be coming to America and its streets this summer. And we're going to get your thoughts on that right after these important messages.

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So Victor, and I apologize again if you can hear the dogs snoring in the background, nothing I can do about it. Lance Morrow, who

Lance is up there a little bit. And I think he's an octogenarian, maybe even older than

than our president.

He writes occasionally for the Wall Street Journal, occasionally for City Journal, the great quarterly publication put out by the Manhattan Institute, even once in a while for National Review.

His son James, people may know him, he's an American, but he's kind of like the conservative guy down in Australia.

He interned at National Review once upon a time. Great guy.
Anyway, Lance Morrow has a piece in Saturday, March 16th, Wall Street Journal, Will Political Hatred Spill into the Streets?

And he talks, writes a lot about what happened in Chicago in 1968 and these, the tensions that one finds when

we find it more increasingly difficult to find the words with which to use to counter our opponents. And

here's how he concludes his

piece. This year, and it's only March,

The idiom of hatred, especially the invective directed at Mr. Trump and the equal and opposite invective fired back, has advanced to the brink of violence.

The George Floyd summer, I'm afraid, was a foretaste of things to come. Victor, there's more.
I'll leave it be.

I recommend folks to find it and read it. But Victor, what are your thoughts about what we might be seeing in America in the months ahead on our streets?

Well, I'm kind of worried. I like Lance Morrow a lot, but I think that op-ed was a little bit on the one hand, or what we say in Greek, mende, on the other hand.

If you go back, Jack, to the ad Hitlerium, reductio ad Hitlerium, the reduction to Hitler, which is who's doing that? Al Gore called George W. Bush a brown shirt.
Right. And

Garrison Keillor called him the same thing.

People in Germany called George Bush Hitler.

And then, of course,

if you said anything like that about Barack Obama, you were just non,

you were a persona non grata. And

yeah, you were in big trouble. And the same thing had you done that with Bill Clinton.
So then we had Donald Trump come on the scene, and nobody knew what he was going to do. Eleven days into his

tenure, Rosa Brooks wrote an article saying there's only three ways to get rid of him. You either got to get the 25th Amendment or you got to impeach him too slow.

Therefore, let's have a military coup, basically. We had two officers calling for a military coup right before the election.
We had

Admiral McRaven said he should be gone the sooner the better, i.e., before a scheduled election. So that was okay.

And it's always

asymmetrical. And so, yes, let's not call people Nazis.
Let's not try to exacerbate tensions, but it comes from the left. And the left's attitude is: we are morally superior.
We are for people.

We are for equality. We are for inclusion.
We are for equity. We are for diversity.

And to advance those goals down the throat of a right-wing, retrograde, reactionary population, we have to do certain things. And so we have to muss up their hair a bit.

And if we call them Hitler, or we call Netanyahu a fascist, or we we go after Jews in a library. That's okay.

And then when the Republicans or the conservatives are something that, you know what, we'll go out on January 6th and we'll do just what you guys did in May, June of 2020. Then it's insurrection.

They had a coup. They tried to stop it.

It's just so asymmetrical, you know, and it's like they tried to stop an election.

Well, what were the Democrats doing in 2016 when we were flooded every night after the election with ads where these celebrities who were paid with DNC funding or PAC money were going on TV and saying, please, electors, please be faithless.

Do not vote for the popular winner of the popular vote in your state. Be a renegade.
Throw the election to Hillary. I mean, where was Fannie Willis when that happened? So it's always more one-sided.

And what's going to happen?

I think I know what's going to happen. I think as we go into

the spring and summer, Joe Biden, as I keep saying, is failing.

And you saw what he did after he came down out of his perhaps amphetamine or Adderall or whatever you want to call it, State of the Union high.

The next day he was dysfunctional, and he has been ever since. But he's not going to be able to get out on the campaign trail.

And they're going to get angrier and angrier, especially when they see Latino voters. I was talking to a very wonderful,

you would call him a Mexican-American

painter. He has his own little painting business.
He's very hardworking. And he just went on and on yesterday.
The price of diesel fuel, Victor. Do you realize it's almost $6 a gallon I have to pay?

I do. Do you understand what paint costs now? And then I have to, to get my money back, I have to raise the price and people get angry at me.
Do you understand that?

You know what taxes are in Cal I know, I know, I know, I kept saying to him.

And so

they have lost the

Hispanic male vote. I don't know about the young people that are in college and indoctrinated.
I don't know about the female Hispanic vote, but I bet you they lose the Latino vote by...

males over 20 who are actually working, not in school. I bet they lose them by 15 points.

And I think they're going to get, they're going to, they'll lose anywhere from 18 to 20% of the black vote because I have a feeling 40 or 50 percent of black males are going to vote against him.

And you correlate that with Joe Biden's inability to campaign. And when they see Donald Trump heading into May and June with three, four, five point leads as he does now, it's going to get nasty.

They're going to go get every silicon nickel and run.

They're not like the Clinton people who run ads and try to outspend. They try to change the process, the process of how we vote.

That's what Mark Zuckerberg did: $419 million to absorb the work of registrars in key precincts. That's what they're going to do.
They're going to try to get a 90% mail-in ballot.

They're already talking about ballots, sending them out.

And it's going to be a nasty, nasty fight. Yeah.

Well, Victor,

let's keep on that then, because I had

sent you a thing or two,

and

both are

voter analyses. One's from a guy, Nate Moore,

Hispanic love for Trump is growing. But then another focus on this, Nate, the infamous Nate Silver,

who has a piece titled Democrat Hemorrhaging Support with Voters of Color. He writes, the problems are particularly bad for Democrats among working-class voters of color and younger ones.

Many black, Hispanic, and Asian American voters have long identified as moderate or conservative rather than liberal.

And then he puts out

a very elaborate chart of a crosstab study, approximately 11,000 plus people.

And right now it has, this study has Trump 47, Biden 45.

But if you look at some of the

where some of these population groups or demographics stood in 2020 versus now

with blacks, you said 18%. Well, that's exactly what he has here.

Trump has, it's 73 Biden among black voters, doesn't break it down by race or age, 73, 18, but that's an increase

for

Republicans of

from polls for 28%, 28%.

And you you know why that is, Jack? You know why? Yeah, go ahead. What's happening in the black and Latino communities is exactly what happened in the white community.

And class is starting for the first time in my life to trump race.

What I mean by that is

here in the San Joaquin Valley, we still have the remnants of the Oklahoma diaspora. We have a lot of middle-class whites.
These are not Palo Alto whites. These are not La Jolla whites.

These are not Carmel whites. They're They're working class whites.
Most of them are leaving the state.

But their

anger is not directed at

Latinos who come in legally. They're angry about, as are Latinos, illegal immigration.
They are furious about left-wing coastal elites. And the reason they're angry is twofold.

That their agendas, whether it is raising the price of diesel fuel to $6,

or whether it is is banning natural gas stoves and new developments, or whether it is making small business have a gender-neutral restroom, or making you go to a college swim meet and there's a woman swimming in a man who's swimming in female sports, or whether it is crime and watching people get out repeatedly with, you know, not even slap on the wrist.

And they look at those people, the Pelosis, the late Diane Feinstein, the Gavin Newsoms, the Barbara Boxers, the Kamala Harrises, but especially the white upper class. And they think, you know what?

You are safe and you have a nice zip code and you have money and you have letters after your name and you make a ton of money and you think your kids will not be subject to school violence because they're in prep school and you think your kids will always get into the colleges they want with

a carefully placed phone call to a dean or a provost or a golfing buddy or somebody.

But we don't have any of those protections and what you are mandating and what you are exempt from falls on us. And we're sick and tired of it because you have destroyed our wages.

You locked us down during COVID.

You

mandated all of these gender and race protocols that we have to abide by and the cost of living is exorbitant, but it doesn't make much difference to you.

You go to Whole Food and when you buy eggs or milk or steak, you don't even look at the price. It kills us.

And that same phenomenon is happening with blacks and Latinos because they look at the black leadership and they look at the

squad or the Latino leadership, Javio Becerra, all these people, they're in government and they're exactly like their white coastal counterparts. They're completely out of touch.

So when you look at the black leadership,

the black caucus in Congress, it supports the Biden open borders. But that open borders is making people in the inner city furious.

And when you look like at the Latino caucus of the Democratic Party or the state legislator, Latinos, they're for that too. They're for transgendered stuff.
They're for a radical abortion on demand.

And all of their constituents who are working class aren't. And they think that these people are spoiled and they're out of touch, even though they're fellow Latino.

What's happening is they're starting to see what the white working class feels. The white working class feels, I don't care if Nancy Pelosi or Gavin Newsom is white and I'm white.

I have zero in common with these people. All they're doing is feathering their own nest with their government associations.
They get insider knowledge. They get exemptions.

They always land on their feet and they always make sure that we don't. And I think that same resentment is now boiling up and you see it in Chicago.
You see it in Baltimore. You see it in L.A.

with blacks who say, you know what? These open borders do nothing for us. Nothing.
And the same thing with Latino community. What do we get out of that? And why are you doing this?

And I think that's a lot of it right now. They're starting to say, you you know what? The black and Latino elite have nothing in common with the black and Latino working class, especially males.

And that's a radical development. But it happened to the Democratic Party in connection with whites about during the Bill Clinton era.
Bill Clinton saw it happening.

And that's why he gave all those speeches about closing the border and

illegal immigration was wrong and 100,000 police officers and school school uniforms. And then Obama blew it up.
Obama blew up the white working class support for the Democratic Party.

He just blew it up with his racial harangues and his elitism.

And so

I think it's a good development because

if Donald Trump is careful, then maybe that's an oxymoron, but he can really craft a working class party that

transcends racial differences. I think he's doing

Victor, also, I think the important point you're making is that this

we're looking at these numbers in a political presidential race setting, but

what underlies this is a rejection of the Democratic Party more so than, I think, than an embracing of Donald Trump. This is

we're sick. We're sick of these people, okay? And here's a guy offering us an alternative.
So I think it's more, to me, it seems more like a rejection that's behind this than it is

we found a new leader in Trump. It doesn't mean they don't like Trump, but

just to point out a couple of these things. Again, this is on Nate Silver's

sub stack. It's really intriguing

to put it in proper context with take with Hispanics.

Biden had an advantage in 2020 with Hispanics, a 24-point advantage over Trump. That is now 6%.
So

this is where Republicans have picked up 18 points. Blacks, they picked up 28%.
Because Biden had an advantage in 2020 of 83%.

Now it's down to 54%.

So these are rejections of Joe Biden and the Democratic Party. Yeah, but he doesn't have a, I mean, he doesn't have a reservoir of goodwill with blacks because

one of the results of his five or six year gradual dementia that the real Joe Biden is coming out. The real Joe Biden was they're going to put you all back in chains.

The real Joe Biden is, hey, junkie.

Hey, you ain't black. Hey, Barack Obama is the first clean, articulate black.
Hey, boy. Hey, boy.
That's Joe Biden. And hey, I gave the eulogy for James Eastland.
I got along with Strom Thurman.

That is the Joe Biden.

And they see that.

And

I think it's going to get worse and worse and worse on this matter of race. And they're going to get angrier and angrier and angrier.
And they're going to be very, very desperate.

And it's one of the biggest revolutionary movements. And it's really incumbent upon Donald Trump to

campaign in 50 states.

If you look at what's happening, he's starting to beat these crazy, I mean, he may be bankrupt, but I think he's going to get the Gene Carroll and the Letita James reduced on appeal, if not overturned.

I think the Fannie Willis case is going to blow up. I think the Georgia's legislature will handle that.

Alvin Bragg is, that's the last viable. Jack Smith's going to have a big problem now that Joe Biden got off.
I don't know how, under equality of the law statutes, he can possibly

prosecute Donald Trump successfully after the exemption that was given to Biden, who was declared basically guilty,

not exonerated. So what I'm getting at is Trump's challenge is Trump.
It's not the law fair anymore. It's not Joe Biden.
He is the normal candidate.

He is the Harding running after Wilson returned to normalcy. Every one of his positions on the border, crime, inflation, energy, foreign policy, military deterrence is the normal position.

The Biden position is way out in wacky left field, and everybody knows it.

I say everybody knows it because

Governor Hoxwell is putting the National Guard in the subway.

Voters of San Francisco are voting to criminalize crime again. So they understand that they got their wish and they got everything they wanted, and they blew it up.
And it doesn't work.

People are fleeing the blue paradigm, whether at the state or city level. So Donald Trump has has to do one thing.

He's got to convince people who are sick of the Biden disaster.

And you can say black women, Latino students,

I don't know, independents, soccer moms, Biden conservative voters, what's left of the old Reagan Democrat, parole voter, whoever, 7% to 8% of the electorate.

He's got to convince them of a reason to vote for his agenda, even though they don't like him. In other words, you like my agenda.
You have it. It was there four years.

Now you see four years of Biden. You agree that Biden is a disaster and you were better off on me, but you don't like me.
Okay, but I'm going to win your vote. And how does he win that vote?

He doesn't. live blog the Oscars and get into a, you know, you're an idiot match with Jimmy Kimmel.
He doesn't call Nikki Haley bird brain. He doesn't say we don't want

the big money people who gave. He doesn't need to do that.
He doesn't need to do any of that.

All he has to do is go to 50 states, go into the inner city, go into the barrio, so to speak, if there is a barrio left, so because Latinos are being integrated at a very rapid rate.

But he's got to go appeal to those people and vote for empoor whites and just stay on message. Here is my contract of America.

This is what I'm going to do in the first hundred days, just like you did with the Federalist judges. Here's the 20,000 people that I'm going to appoint.
Da, da, da, da, da, da.

And just the normal solution. Go to the San Joaquin Valley and say, I am going to stop sending water out to the ocean during a drought.
I'm going to make sure you have three more reservoirs.

Just stuff that unites people with common sense solutions, and they will win in a landslide. But

if he goes down these cul-de-sacs and he gets into verbal joust on truth social, he's going to squander that because he doesn't understand two things.

It's not about Trump. It's about saving the country.

Joe Biden is not Bill Clinton. He's not even Barack Obama.
This is something we've never seen before.

This is a full-fledged revolutionary leftist socialist attempt to take over America and really destroy what we thought was America.

So it's the stakes are Donald Trump is the emissary or the appointee to stop it. It's not about Donald Trump.
We have no other choice but Donald Trump. And he has responsibilities to save it.

And that's what he has to realize. And then

he has to see that people want to vote for him who don't like him. And so he's got to reach out to them.
So

Mike Pence the other day, did you see that? He said he wouldn't support.

Yeah.

There's two things he can do. He can do the Iowa magnanimous speech, or he can do the New Hampshire angry speech.

He can say, oh, Mike Pence is an idiot and a P-U-S-S-Y who didn't help me. Or he can say, I'm going to work on Mike Pence.
I know Mike Pence. He did a good job as vice president.

I think he's mistaken, but I've got four months to convince him that we have the superior agenda. That's what he has to do.
Right.

Victor, Donald Trump lost in 2020 for a lot of reasons, but he almost won.

It was still a close race electorally. And I think I said this a couple of years ago, and it's not because he's my friend, but

he got into that like three or four days of

tweeting about Joe Scarborough murdering his

penny murderers. And meanwhile, we as a country at the time were in a panic about what the hell was going on with civilization collapsing, collapsing? There's pathogen out there.

And I agree with you totally with what you're saying.

The story is the woman and the man, the home that can barely put groceries on the table. We don't want you talking about going, as you said, there's some rabbit hole of foolishness.

Focus on the needs that we have, the deep concerns we have. And that is a path to victory.
So,

Victor, we have

another topic or two to talk about as we get into the home stretch. And I think one of them might be,

well, this is a Tennessee state senator calling for riots. We just talked about, is it going to be madness in the streets?

So let's get your thoughts on that, but we'll do that right after these important messages.

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Victor, another headline. You ain't seen nothing yet.
The

Tennessee state senator calls for riots after a pro-police bill passes. This is,

well, what is it? State Senator Charlene Oliver called for riots over the passage of a pro-police bill in Tennessee. This happened on Thursday evening saying, you ain't seen nothing yet.

It's a slap in the face,

and you might as well stomp on the grave of Tyree Nichols for bringing this bill, etc., etc.

Boy, oh boy, Victor. Tyree Nichols was shot in Tennessee by five black officers, right? Yeah.

There wasn't a white officer to be found. And

I don't know. I mean, basically what she said wasn't that much different than what Kamala Harris said in summer of 2020 when they were burning and looting.

And then all of a sudden she said, and these protests are not going to stop nor should they stop and they're going to go all the way to the election and then all of the fact checkers snopes paul of fact all those people got paranoid because she just laid it out so they said oh well she didn't mean that

that's false to say she was advocating violence she was just talking about the people and the protests weren't peaceful by that point they tried to swarm the white house grounds they had just torched the st.

John's Episcopal Church. They

fired up on a police precinct. They had burned down a federal courthouse or tried to.
So she did the same thing. Nothing happened to her.
And, you know, we just had the DEI

director of John Hopkins give a whole list of the people you couldn't trust and should be shunned. And it was like 90% of the population, English speakers,

white people, people who have homes, people who save money. This has gone really crazy, and we know where it's going to end.
And I just feel bad because

I hope the black leadership can stop this because people are getting really, and I don't mean white people, I'm talking about everybody.

They're getting very ill and angry

at this patently racist stuff that people are saying and doing. And if she thinks that she's going to go out and

lead a big riot and it's going to be like 2020 and nobody's going to react to it, Joe biden will react to it and he'll have to because he'll lose the election if he doesn't right that's one thing that would lose him the election

one of the reasons that israel polls about 83 percent of the american people in favor of what it's doing in gaza is because people are sick and tired of the pro-hamash shutting down of the bay bridge golden gate manhattan bridge defacing the lincoln monument storming christmas festivities in New York.

They're just sick of it. They're tired of it.

And if she thinks they're going to have a big revisit of 2020, where we turn on the TV and everybody's burning and looting, and we're supposed to feel that this is okay because of Georgia, it's not going to happen.

People are sick of it, especially during these economic times.

There's no COVID to blame. There's no lockdown to blame.
And so I hope that doesn't happen. And I think the DEI has

the DEI transmogrified from its pretenses that it was going to ensure a quality of opportunity, maybe a quality of result into just a patently racist outfit.

And almost every single day you pick up, go on any news site, liberal or conservative, and there's some crazy DEI head at Harvard.

at Columbia, at John Hopkins, at Stanton, who are saying things that are just racist.

and then followed by black people can't be racist.

And I think people are getting really, really, if you wanted to tribalize America rather than making us, you know, the Martin Luther King dream that's the content of our character and race is incidental, not essential to whom we are, you couldn't do a better job than what the DEI

apparatus is doing. Right.

I don't understand the logic.

The aforementioned college fix, Victor, is a great place to go for that cataloging of one example after another of this madness.

Like Javidson College is the latest of DEI forcing students, athletes, student athletes, to watch videos saying why whites are racist and why blacks can never be racist. And you're like,

is this a place supposed to be for education and not this indoctrination? But

maddening. Hey, one last story.
Yeah, go ahead. Well,

I work at a university. I think we're near our third year where whites who make up about 67% of the population

are getting into Stanford at 20 to 21 percent. And with the heavy preponderance of women, it's

white males, as I keep saying, are about 9 percent.

You get rid of the SAT, you have disenfranchised thousands of straight A, perfect SAT, poor white Midwestern applicants.

And you basically said the only white males, about 180 of them out of 2,000 every year that go to Stanford, are going to be athletes, the children of billionaire Silicon Valley grandees, or the children of the president, the board of trustees,

or a dean or a provost. That's just a fact.
There's not enough slots. And when you have, as I said, 67% and you are going down to 20%, it's just patently racist.
It is.

And I don't think it's going to be sustainable. I really don't.

I mean, it's good for the Hoover Institution because a lot of parents who are left-wing see now that it is, and their children had all qualified according to Stanford's own prior standards of admissions.

And

they're very loyal to the idea of Stanford, but not the concrete manifestation of it today. And they're starting to give to the Hoover Institution as something that

is antithetical to what Stanford's become. Right.
Right.

Well, we're here on recording on the eve of saint patrick's where the old expression the irish need not apply and i think we that could be turned today to to uh uh yeah white uh white high school senior yeah

hey victor one last headline before we um

head off

this has to it plays into everything you've we've discussed you know particularly the economy um

talked about food prices. Of course, everyone's still aghast

by

gasoline prices. And we all know what the Biden administration has done to hurt the energy industry in the United States.

But I don't know if people have heard this news yet about how their tax dollars are being used to

help the oil industry in other nations. A headline is from the Daily Caller.
Bidenmin hands out 500 million for oil drilling in the Middle East. The U.S.

Export-Import Bank, a nominally independent government entity that aims to boost the American economy by facilitating the export of U.S. goods and services, I'm reading from the Daily Caller article,

approved a $500 million

loan guarantee for oil and gas development in Bahrain on Thursday, according to Blue Program. Yeah,

they've been doing it a lot. Remember,

right before the 2022 midterm, they not only drained the strategic petroleum reserve to get the price of gas down, but they had gone the year before on a big

pump

tour where they asked Venezuela, Iran,

Saudi Arabia after we had insulted Saudi Arabia when Biden had said, you know, they're pretty awful. That was his theme in that campaign.
And then even Russia before the Ukraine invasion. The idea was

we have a problem here in the United States, you guys. You see, we're pledged to getting rid of stinky, dirty fossil fuels.

So we're cutting back on federal leases and offshore drilling because we don't believe in this goo. But we need this goo to get elected again.
So we're going to drain the glue.

the goo that Trump stockpiled. And then we want you guys, who are stinky, dirty people, to pump stinky, dirty goo so we can use it.
Got it?

That's the message. And

it's not a very good message to our allies to say, yeah, we're supposed to pump, but you won't.

And now, all of a sudden, that wasn't enough. So if you look at the actual

daily production of gas and oil, it is phenomenal, Jack. It's gone up by about from two and a half years ago, and they don't talk about it.
But they're at Trump levels right now.

Maybe they're ahead of it, this administration. They're telling drillers and frackers, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump.
They're telling people overseas, pump, pump, pump.

We want more of the dirty, sticky goo. You've got to get gas prices down before the November election.
That's what they're doing. The irony of all this is

I've been to the Middle East.

I think I've been to every major oil exporting country except Iran.

And I can guarantee you, whether you look at the refineries, at the shore, or the wells, the United States can produce oil and natural gas more safely, more ecologically sound, and with less imprint on the environment than any other country, especially the Russians.

So if you believe in planet or spaceship Earth, that we're all stuck on this planet, then you would want the United States to produce more of its own oil because it would have less damage to to the environment.

We have a lot more regulations. We're a lot more experienced at it.

And why you would say, you know what, we're not going to do it here, but we want you guys who are sloppy and don't have the resources to do it over, I don't understand.

But that's another thing I don't understand about this. This administration is very

mysterious. It's almost surreal.
It's lunatic.

The idea of 8 million people swarming the border or

this idea of these soil

prosecutors letting people out, knock people out, or shoot, or arresting somebody like Pendyon, it just doesn't make sense. And this is another indication of it.
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Three last things, Victor. One is

my old colleague, Stephanie at National Review, let me know the other day how much she loves the podcast and your wisdom. So I just want to mention that.
That's nice. Thank you.
Oh, she's terrific.

And then

I was at the Irish Club the other day here in Milford, Connecticut. I was at the bar.
I don't know. Maybe I was asking for a glass of water or something.
And a guy comes up to me and he says,

are you Jack? I said, yeah.

I came in. When I came in, I saw some guy I knew.
I said, hey, how you doing, John? He said, hey, Jack. So I think he was with that guy.
And he might have said, who's that? He just said, Jack Fowler.

So anyway, the guy coming up to me, are you Jack? Yeah. Jack Fowler.
I'm like, yeah.

Do you, do you do a podcast? I said, yeah.

Is it with Victor James Sampson? I was like,

yeah.

He says, I love it. I was just listening to it on the ride over here.
Do you really know Victor? And I'm not mocking. His name is all too well.

Well, I see all too well. Yeah, we've been together in a lot of situations.
But, Victor, there's just, and that's happened to me now several times recently.

So there's just a real love for the wisdom you're sharing. And you just have to know how much you mean to people.

I wish I could tell my colleagues that.

Well,

I think your colleagues know the power of VDH and

probably

shake to think they might ever get on your wrong side. Not that there's a wrong side of Victor.
So anyway, I just want to thank Brian for coming up and sharing that. That's nice.

And one last thing, we do read our reviews or comments that people leave on your website, Victor, after the articles or podcasts and on iTunes Apple, and where people can rate the show zero to five stars.

And here's one

from your website, Victor.

it's by richard michaels who lives in sequim uh washington i've never said that before sequim but i think washington state bdh i found your stories regarding your encounters with the illegal aliens on your property in fresno valley valley to be quite moving you have a way of relaying details in such a way as to invoke a visceral response from me i'm at an age when i find it so sad when i reflect on the state of our great country today as compared to when i was a child and my grandparent and my parents' generation.

Keep up the good work, Richard Michaels. Thank you, Richard.
I was jogging today with

early in the morning and there's a huge refrigerator that has appeared in the middle of an almond row.

But it's not like a refrigerator. It's kind of like,

you know, those old freezers that are industrial. It's huge.
I mean, it must weigh 800 pounds. And it's just sitting out there in the middle of the row.

And I hope there's not a body in it. I don't know.
I haven't gone close to it, but that is something that meets me almost every day. When I was a little boy on the bank of the pond,

there were all these beautiful willows.

We used to hide in the trees, and I was going by there today and I looked in the willows and almost it looks like you remember that scene, Wild West scene down by the LA train yard where they were looting everything and Gavin went down, Gavin went down with his Abercrombie and fish

outfit and picked up. Well, that's what every little, there was plastic plastic toys, there's just car seats, there's like a lot of Spanish newspapers.
It's just junk.

It's a breakdown of civil society. Yeah.
I mean,

when I was farming, the idea, if you let, we called them Mount Trashmores, if you let Mount Trashmore grow, then they'll come. Oh, absolutely.
So it needs litter, right? Yeah.

So we would try to get rid of Mount Trashmore very quickly. But this property, our families, you know, during the big shakeoff, we lost.
So it abuts mine and I can't do anything about it.

But man, there's trash there every day. I think the last time I encountered somebody, a guy was driving there with, I looked in the back seat and he had like six bags of trash.

And I said, are you lost? Well, I won't.

It was broken English, but he said he was looking for a bicycle to buy out in the middle. And I said,

I don't think you're going to buy. There's not a lot of bicycle shops out here, but there's a lot of empty spaces where you can throw all your trash.

He didn't like that. Okay.

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