China In Town, Hospital Raided In Gaza, and Other News
In this news roundup, Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Sami Winc look at the stories of the week: Biden and Xi meet in San Francisco, the IDF raids al-Shifa hospital, Biden frees billions for Iran, and the British Home Secretary is relieved of duty for suggesting favoritism for Muslim demonstrators.
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And Victor, we have, before I actually, we talk about the G.
Biden meeting, I was wondering, I just saw this article in the news about airlines saying that they're all ready for the upcoming holiday season and all the holiday travelers.
How much money are you willing to put on that?
Well, I'm going to be a contrarian since I didn't know you were going to ask me that question.
And I flew, I flew.
I had to go down and speak at the Prager.
I just shouldn't say I had to.
It was very, it was a privilege to go down and speak.
I taught a class at Pepperdine, and then I did a video for the Prager University people, and then spoke with Dennis.
We had a conversation Saturday.
So then I flew on a United flight from LAX to Chicago.
Because I was at a Bradley Foundation board meeting in Milwaukee.
And you know what?
It took off exactly at the right time and it was on on time.
So then the proof of the pudding is going back to the notorious Fresno airport.
And I got out of Milwaukee.
The plane, it was late in the afternoon where I looked at where the plane's coming from.
It had four different stops that day.
So that was all
a lot of exposure for delay.
And then it came on time.
This is United, no less.
And I got to Denver on time.
I had a three-hour layover, and they did switch the gate and change all that but it it took off on time we got on time and then there was the fresno factor when i got home i mean we sat on tarmac for about 10 minutes of course no sky bridge etc but
there's probably one more than one flight that came in and they were flummox yes but i i uh I flew eight times out of state.
I flew to Dallas on American and I flew to Washington, D.C.
And these were connections.
So, so
and other places I have.
And so something, I think they're making an effort.
They're trying to load different, you know what I mean?
Where they put window people on.
And it looks to me
like they're aware that the whole system is breaking down.
They're trying to react, but the whole, everything is breaking down.
So we'll see what happens.
But of course, I wouldn't, after saying all that, I'm not going to fly anywhere on Thanksgiving or Christmas.
Yeah.
Well, so
we have the Premier G in San Francisco.
Newsom's cleaned up the streets.
And in fact, he said something quite clever about the cleaning up of the streets, that he's doing it because he has two very important
figures coming to San Francisco.
And he said, quote, that's true, because it's true.
I don't know what that was supposed to mean, but there's been a lot of complaint, of course, in California because of the cleanup.
So I was wondering what you had to say about that.
Oh, go ahead.
Yeah, he was basically saying, what would you do if you live in a self-created hell?
And you're bringing in the APEC, the Asian Pacific economic people, you know, our ally, our allies.
So they're there for three days.
Then you have Chi, Jinping, the Chinese guy.
It's kind of like,
you know, people that live in really messy homes and all of a sudden somebody's going to come over for dinner.
Now, what do you do?
You think, well, I'm not going to be hypocritical.
My kids are here and everybody.
It's always a pig pen.
So I'll just let the guys see how we actually live.
Or do they clean it all up for the special dinner?
And then the kids say, well, why don't you do that for us?
And that's what he did.
And he was honest enough to say that he did.
And then he, of course, lied, as is his wont, by saying, but we've been working on this for a long time.
They know what's going on.
But the funny thing was, there was a European film crew that was filming all day to highlight the visit of the Chinese president, and they got all their equipment stolen.
Oh, wow, really?
Yeah, $18,000, all their hard work for a whole day, just stolen in broad daylight.
So
he knows that to save San Francisco, it would be more than the city.
They'd have to go back to three strikes are out.
They'd have to put about 300,000 people back in prison that are felons.
They'd have to deal with the homeless issue and be tough about it.
Yeah.
Well they think that
if they were like
that Napoleonic aphorism, you know, a whiff of grape shot or two or the old idea in Voltaire to encourage the others about hanging, the same thing.
If you just did it one or two times,
then people would fall in line.
If you said to the homeless, you're not going to be on Union Square, I'm sorry, and you put them out to a humane uh
relocation where there were tents and facilities and bathrooms say somewhere like candlestick parks old parking or something like that i'm just
making it up then they would get the message that they couldn't do that i mean there was a reason why when you look at these problems why didn't they exist before
What were our grandparents and parents doing that were not?
Well, they were pretty mentally ill people in institutions,
and or the family was intact to take care of their own, or drugs were very hard to get, or if they were so-called hobos or bums or whatever pejoratives they've used, they dealt with them and they prosecuted them.
So, you know, it used to be if you were walking down San Francisco sidewalks in 1970 and you pulled out your blank and urinated on the sidewalk and police saw you, he'd arrest you.
As well, he should.
There was a story about
a homeless man who in San Francisco, he said to the interviewer, well, they have done this two times before and we just come back.
He goes, this time they told us we can't go back there.
Like if it were so easy, why don't they just tell them you can't go back there?
They should know that the definition of immorality is failure to enforce morality.
Then you hurt people.
And so the people who are hurt by the homeless are much larger than the homeless.
The people who are hurt by four-time felons that carjack and steal and shoot are much larger than the felon.
But when you have a particular isolated elite that Virtue Signal and feels they find some kind of spiritual reaffirmation by hurting the majority by
supposedly being magnanimous to a small group of people, then you have these problems.
And it doesn't take more, it doesn't, it's, you know, it's like the united states speaking of san francisco i mean we had chi there and
so the president
comes uh biden comes and he meets the top dog in china and
what is china i mean the scariest thing about that summit yes
was
biden's people said that biden talked all the time and she just listened.
I'm thinking, yeah, Neville Chamberlain talked all the time at Munich, too.
Hitler just listened.
So why did he come?
You know why he came?
Because he looks at the, here's what he's thinking.
He's thinking, this isn't the 1990s and the 2000s when we got away with patent infringement, copyright theft, dumping product to get market share, manipulating the currencies, stealing, you know, intellectual property, technology, espionage.
This is the big leaks.
We killed millions of people with COVID, and we just told them, screw you.
We put a bio-rab, one of our companies did, right in Readley, California, and you couldn't do anything about it.
We took a balloon and just lazily sent it over all your installations.
You didn't do anything about it.
We buy farmland near your bases.
You don't do anything about it.
And now he's thinking of that.
And then he's looking at
Kabul?
Kabul.
Look at that.
50 billion and abandoned stuff.
Then Then he says, Mark Milley, their chairman of the Joint Chief, called us up to warn us about their own president.
We have to have a summit and talk about how our military could communicate with each other.
We like this sort of communication.
You know what I mean?
That's one of the things he said.
We have to, well, our community, our military people must communicate.
Well, he just snubbed Austin.
Austin went over there.
in obsequious fashion.
He said, nah, I don't want to talk to you.
And then Milley went over and, you know, basically called up and not went over, but he called up and ratted out his own president.
And so the Chinese think, wow,
what is going on?
This isn't like the 90s.
We're getting away with murder.
We're trashing the Philippines.
We're buzzing American planes.
We're carving out whole swaths of territory.
We've got all the allies frightened that America's not there.
I got to go over there and see what this crazy Biden is, he's telling everybody we're friends.
I got to go see what this guy is, if it's true, if he's really mentally adult
and he's ethically challenged.
Probably I know that because we challenged him and bought off his crooked family.
And we got to see why everybody hates him because he's in the 30s, high 30s in his polls some weeks.
And
we'll see what he's going to, if he's even able to be a candidate.
I want to see this because I can't believe what we're getting away with.
So that's why he came.
Yeah, well, Biden's rhetoric was that he wants to, quote, get back on a normal course of corresponding.
The only reason, only good thing Biden did, he hasn't quite dismantled all the Trump reciprocal demands on trade.
I just listened to what he said a minute ago.
His team said.
Well, we're going to,
they're going to explore AI and not, why would we do that?
We're still ahead of them in AI.
All they do is take it from us.
And then he said, and then we're going to have our military leaders talk to him.
Well, of course you want that because that's what Millie did.
He talked to you.
Why should we, you know,
why do that?
And then John Kerry was at the right-hand side of everything.
And they're opening two.
coal plants a month.
Why would they want to
ever reduce their carbon emissions?
They want everybody else to do it.
Yeah, they're just going to smile and shake their heads.
Yes.
All these things they don't listen to.
What causes a war is when a strong power
is in decline or thinks it's in decline and a weaker power makes the wrong estimation.
So if you look at the assets of the German German Reich in 1938-39, and you look at what the British Empire had.
I'm not talking about just Britain, Britain, the Empire, and the so-called overseas, I don't know what you'd call them at that point, the Commonwealth, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India, and then
the Middle East, oil.
And Britain had so much, and even in technology, the Spitfire was as good or better than the BF-109.
All they had to do was just stare Hitler down.
The British Navy could have blown up the entire German Navy out of the water.
But Hitler kept saying, God,
why are they so weak?
They won World War I, we lost.
Why do they keep a peace in this?
Ah, they must not think they're strong.
If they don't think they're strong, we'll attack.
And they won't do anything.
And that's what's scary right now, because we are stronger still than China.
We have a bigger economy.
We have a bigger military in many ways.
We have more nuclear weapons.
We have a more dynamic culture, even than it's Nadir.
So, but he came over here to see what was going on.
I think he left thinking, you know what?
There's a brief window of opportunity.
Their economy is as bad as ours.
Their border is wide open.
They have a crime spree.
Their military is woke and
DEI, and they got a president that has no idea where he is.
And I'm going to try to push, push, push.
So I think it was a big failure.
I really do.
Yeah, I think you're right about that.
But since you were speaking of the Biden administration effort at appeasement, just recently they freed up about $10 billion
and
once sanctioned funds for the Iranian government.
And I was wondering if you had any thoughts on their current Iranian expedition.
They always talk, they say, well, it's not new funds, it's prior sanctioned money.
But the fact of the matter is that our strongest ally is facing 120 to 150,000 rockets.
And they wouldn't have one of them if Iran hadn't given all of this sanction relief cash.
Same thing with Hamas.
And so why?
I don't understand it.
I'm not just being rhetorical.
I mean,
for the $6 billion we got South Korea supposedly to release, that was
$1.2 billion per
captive that Iran had.
We're not even talking about
the 12 missing Americans that are probably captive and the 30 that were killed by Hamas.
So we're not talking about getting anything back.
We're talking about buying them from Iran.
And now
we're going to top that 6 billion with another 10 billion.
Where does Biden think the money is going to go?
To wind and solar is that what he thinks does he think you're going to they're going to make a cultural center or an opera or symphony in tehran no it's going to go right into the hands of the syrians and hezbollah and hamas that's what he's going to do and the houthis in yemen yemen it just i it it gets to the point where if you you've sat down with somebody you played a game you said hey
how could i weaken the united states and make iran strong And you go, well, I think I release all the oil money sanctions.
Okay.
Well, I think I can top you there.
I think I try to buy hostages back for you at $1.2 billion so you would take more of them.
Well,
I think
that I would start the Iran deal again.
Well, I think I would make distance between Israel and us.
I think I would get the Houthis declassified as a terrorist organization.
I think I would, I'll top you there.
I think I'll give $700 million
to Hamas and the Palestinian.
And that's why they couldn't come up any worse if they had just played a game about who could top the other in appeasing Iran.
Yeah, but they're much less clever than that.
They think they're doing something good by putting the United States in the position that it's in.
I think they must.
I mean, I can't believe that they are intentionally trying to destroy the position, power, and culture of the United States.
I think they think, wow, we're doing such a great job for the United States.
We're making it a better place.
More people will like us, etc.
I mean, I guess.
I don't know how they've
so blinded themselves to what really is going on, but
I just think they must think that way.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Well, I mean,
they think they're doing good.
They think because they have a different view of human nature than the people listening to this podcast.
People listening to this podcast, all of you out there, you understand the tragic nature of man.
He's imperfect.
And the way that we protect each other from human nature is we have laws and deterrence.
And the reason the criminal doesn't kill us all is not because
We make the law, we dismantle the judicial system, because he's afraid of suffering in prison.
So he thinks that the
downside's greater than the upside of steel.
And that's how the world works.
But these people,
they always come out of the woodwork when you have a three strikes law and it worked and crime is down or Giuliani cleans up New York or there's a booming economy.
Then they come out of the work and say, ah,
now we can experiment with our social utopianism because everything is going well.
It takes them about five years to screw it up.
And that's the problem.
Yeah, that sure is.
Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then we'll come back and talk about the Al Shifa hospital and the IDF.
Stay with us and we'll be right back.
This is the Victor Davis-Hanson Show and welcome back.
Victor, so the IDF has raided the Al-Shifa hospital.
They thought they were going to find sort of a nerve center of Hamas communications and tunnel.
And have they found that?
I was reading all the presses.
I got the feeling from some of it.
Oh, they really didn't find that much under it.
Go ahead.
They're scratching the surface.
They'll find stuff.
But you know, it's hard to tell.
The BBC, did you see that?
The BBC ran a report and said that The IDF is targeting medical teams and Arab speakers.
Yes, right.
And then they had a correction, you know, that said, oh, sorry about that.
What we meant to say is the IDF is providing medical teams and Arab speakers for the hospital.
They got it completely wrong.
And it just always, they err always in the predictable fashion.
And there was another Newswire report that the Israeli snipers see these guys coming out of the hospital.
in the crowd and they're debating, well, do I shoot, take this guy out and then cause a riot or something?
So they let him get out.
But it's a war crime.
What we're dealing with is
such an asymmetric that any idiot could see it.
But
I guess there's a lot of idiots at
Stanford or Harvard or Yale or Princeton that can't see it.
They're not even idiot class one.
They're idiot rank four.
And they haven't made it up to,
I don't know what's wrong with them, but do they understand that when one side shoots 7,000 rockets, double the number of V-2 rockets that Germany sent into Britain in five months, and they do that in four weeks, and they don't have leaflets, they don't call people, and they're trying to kill every Jewish civilian, that is different than trying to stop those rockets by bombing their tunnels and dropping leaflets and warning people to get out of the target area.
Do they see the difference?
Do they see the difference that going in at a time of peace during a holiday early in the morning and raping and mutilating and beheading and incinerating elderly children,
babies, women, is different than trying to avoid them when they're being used as shields?
If the Israelis had shields, it would never work because Hamas would target the shields.
It works for Hamas because Israel doesn't.
That's a difference.
That's a difference.
It's a moral difference.
And don't people see the difference?
And then they'll say, well, it's disproportional.
It's disproportionate.
Well, the only difference is that the terrorism that Hamas is employing is not as effective in winning the war as the conventional warfare that Israel is employing.
The other canard is
everybody says, well, Israel is really strong.
And Hamas is being picked on.
No, no, no, no, no.
Israel has 10 million people.
There are 500 Arab Muslims in its vicinity.
There are 2 billion Muslims worldwide.
There is enormous populations in Europe and the United States of pro-Hamas people.
They have all the numbers.
They have the oil money.
They have everything.
So don't tell me that that tiny little country of 10 million people is a bully just because Hamas on a particular tactical situation, can't draw on all the resources.
It can't suck Iran in.
It can't suck Hezbollah in.
It can't suck Egypt and Jordan in.
But believe me, they're all sympathetic in theory
to
Jew hatred and the destruction of Israel.
What they're not quite sympathetic is Hamas, because they know
They're not really an army.
They're not really a cause.
They're a group of thugs.
They're gangsters.
They're like the mafia, and they fear them as much as the Israelis do.
Yeah.
So nobody wants to take them.
Nobody in the Egyptian.
Biden.
New Yorkists do.
Yeah, they think, wow.
Let's see.
Let's look at
Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Well, they had some Middle Eastern students, and they were harassing Jews to the extent that the president had to say, hey, Jews,
I won't, I can't protect you from our Middle Eastern students, but I can tell you where you can't go.
Don't go here and don't go there.
And then they started hijacking classes.
You can see it on YouTube where a guy comes in, screams, and yells, and the poor professor stops teaching.
Stops it.
And then the guy rants on about Hamas and they are damaging property and they're
physically assaulting Jews.
And the president said, well, technically, this is an infraction that could call for expulsion.
But if I expolled them, expelled them,
oh my God, they might lose their student visas.
I can't do that.
So I'll give them a warning.
I'll put them on probation.
In other words, you American students follow the letter of the law.
Especially you Jewish kids.
But anybody from the Middle East, you can break it because I would not want to send you back to the places that you're glorifying and you're talking about non-stop and you're praising.
You would not want to go back to the Muslim utopia that you left where you'd have a nice dictator and sexual apartheid.
And if you were in Iran, you would stone or hang gays.
and there'd be no freedom of the press.
And if you tried this trick back in Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Iraq of getting on a bullhorn and screaming and yelling or taking over a bridge or throwing paint on them.
Something, they would shoot you.
They would shoot you if you were opposing the government.
Look what Mr.
Hafaz el-Saad did to people.
He killed 20,000 of them that objected to his rule.
So I don't understand it.
I don't know why we just don't say, if you come to our country and you're on a student visa, I know you pay 110% of tuition, but you broke all our rules and you're violent and you're harming American citizens.
So I suggest you go back to where you want to be.
And, you know, it's that old Napoleon.
They ask him how he stopped the riot in Italy, a whiff of grape shot.
They asked
Voltaire said they hung Admiral Bing to encourage the others.
All you'd have to do is one or two students.
Yes.
Trust me, you saw that when they said that law firms weren't going to hire students that were pro-Amos, and they all of a sudden they started getting scared.
All you have to do is take the three most active foreign students on a student visa who are breaking the law and committing felonies, defacing public property, taking over traffic.
I'm not even talking about their death speeches and death chantings and genocidal talk.
I'm just talking about breaking the law and send them back where they came from, cancel their visa.
And I think
everybody would say, I don't want to go back there.
I do not want to go back to Jericho.
I will not go back to Cairo.
I do not want to go back to Damascus.
So,
well, we do have some protesters that are pro-Israel these days.
I hear that on the Stanford campus that they're facing off with,
figuratively facing off in the same place, in the same square with the pro-Palestinian.
I walked by today and I talked to some people
and they had not done that.
They had
some posters and a display, but now they have a
competing booth of information.
And
it was raining tonight.
I mean, I did see one of the Middle Eastern had little signs, please be quiet, don't wake the protesters asleep.
They were in tents.
So there's a lot of people there.
And I
know it.
It's ridiculous.
Chic protesting.
Yeah, no kidding.
What about the 300,000 at the Washington Mall that were pro-Israel?
They were very peaceful.
They didn't
start
chanting lies like apartheid.
I think.
Or actually, a gender apartheid is not a lie about Hamas.
So in fact, they should chant lies.
It's in their charter.
It's in their charter.
It's in their charter.
Read what it says the expectations of women are is to produce more Hamas fighters.
yes no no no no it's in their charter about the distinctions between the sexes but there is a mere image just as we were talking about the difference in tactics one side drops leaflets one side aims specifically at civilians one side mutilates and burns the other side tries to avoid hospitals and so one side build
builds tunnels and headquarters under mosque and hospitals.
The other side doesn't.
There's also that same asymmetry in these demonstrations.
So ask everybody who's listening, which side wears mask?
I don't see Israelis with wrapping their face in masks.
Do you and their pro-Israel marchers?
No, they don't.
I see a lot pro-Hamas.
Which side
tends to deface things, or swarm statues, our bloody handprints?
Which side takes over bridges or tears down American flags on Veterans Day?
Or which side is more likely to tear down posters of the other side?
So
that asymmetry just reflects the asymmetry in the Middle East.
And nobody wants to talk about it.
But if you don't defend your culture and you don't defend your civilization and you're afraid of making a value judgment, then you don't deserve to have it.
And that's what's happening.
We're eroding because
51% of us who don't believe this, we're not speaking up.
And we've got to speak up.
Donald Trump and DeSantis both said,
I don't know what Haley said, that they would deport, she didn't, she was weak on that.
They would deport people who break the law on student visas and they wouldn't issue as many.
And everybody thought that was so mean.
You know.
But apparently, you know what, now that you're talking about Trump, I noticed the polls today, a Quinnipiak poll.
Donald Trump was at 64 and DeSantis at 16, Haley at 9, and Ramaswamy at 4.
He is just miles ahead of the others.
It's incredible.
The left doesn't understand what they're doing.
In fact, the left is doing something very stupid.
They've gone after him in such a fashion with these crazy Letita James
and
Soros attorneys, Alvin Bray.
And it's such a miscarriage that if they put him in jail, and they may well do that, they're going to be an enormous
outcry.
I mean, it's going to be, they have no idea what they're, you can't do that.
We've never done that in American history.
Put the leading nominee in jail and then
weaponizing the electoral system.
It's
getting very scary, and a lot of people are showing their anger.
And then
it's
the candidates, if you were a person out there who
is solidly Trump, I think everybody's out there is willing to vote for the nominee, the more conservative nominee.
And I mean, anybody's more conservative than Joe Biden or whatever the left puts on.
I wish just everybody would just take a deep breath and say, whatever happens, I am going to vote for the person who gets the nomination.
I have some doubts about Haley, but believe me, I will vote for her in two seconds.
I think that
what we're having is
we have to get it down very quickly, as quickly as possible.
If you're going to have an interesting race and debates, otherwise the debates are a waste of time.
You've got to get down to the people who are the main opposition.
And again, that's DeSantis and Haley.
And they each are different, and they can debate where the Republican Party should go.
And then Donald Trump.
He should campaign because if he doesn't,
I don't mean campaign, but debate, then he's doing what Joe Biden did when he avoided that.
And he's a good debater.
So he should get in there and
do his thing with DeSantis and Haley.
And there should be three of them.
And then if
one of them doesn't
perform or falls in the poem, then let's get down to a two-person race.
But all these different candidates, it's just a waste of time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, since you're talking about candidates on the left, did you, I meant to ask you this when you were talking about G and Biden in San Francisco.
Do you think that that was Biden sort of putting his hand on the shoulder of Newsom?
And it's sort of the way an emperor might adopt a son as his
successor, should he not be able to make it himself?
Do you think in the sense that
the subtext of that was
we're never going to have Kamala Harris.
Yeah.
He would not invite her out in front of everybody, hug her in front of.
No, he doesn't want to do that.
He knows that that's a lose-lose situation.
And he doesn't, I don't think he's going to run again.
I really don't.
I don't think he's able to.
I don't think he thinks he is.
Well, you should have seen the conference.
I think he's just, I mean, if he says it now, he's a lame duck and he has no power.
So he'll hold out.
Maybe he'll even get nominated at the convention, right?
Yeah.
And then suddenly in August, they'll just appoint somebody and that's how they get rid of Harris.
I don't know, but they're going to get rid of her.
They're not, yeah,
she's not going to be running for president.
And he knows that.
So he's going to be much friendlier to Newsom than he is her.
It's not that he's pro-Newsom.
He just,
it's not that he's anti-Harris.
It's just that she's childlike.
Yeah, but Newsom also, just in that line of argument, is very careful to
say that, of course, course, he would never run again, and of course, Biden is the man.
And so he, you know,
loyally backs Biden
as though he may have had some sort of agreement behind closed doors that if Biden can't quite make it and get across the finish line in the next campaign, that Newsom is
an agreement.
The big money in California, the Silicon Valley money, will be for him.
Yeah.
It's a losing deal.
You can't say anything Newsom says.
I mean, it's like saying I wear my mask everywhere during the COVID thing.
He just lies all the time.
So
he's smooth.
He's good looking.
He's young.
I guess that's about it.
And he can speak well, as I said, for 10 minutes.
He has all the memorized can line.
Then after that, he's flailing.
Yeah.
But
for it to be.
For it to be an interesting, I think we could go through all the strategies very quickly of all the candidates.
Haley, Haley believes that she can tack right in the primary, but wink and nod and give the impression that she's going to be the return of the sober and judicious Republican, kind of the George Bush Republican.
You know, good people that are Republican, they're just kind of turned off by the MAGA agenda, and that she'll say MAGA because you have to in the primaries.
But basically, that's what her appeal is to people.
And then DeSantis' strategy, it seems to me, is
he's going to be number two.
He thinks he can defeat Haley.
And I think people who are listening to this, ask yourself, because they have to unify the party if they're going to beat Trump.
Their attitude is
DeSantis, I think, probably would think he can appeal to the independent Haley voter or swing voter, Republican establishment terrorism, and get them on his fold much easier than she can get the MAGA.
You know what I mean?
The MAGA base.
If she were to win, I don't think she could get the MAGA base.
If DeSantis could win, I think he would get her constituency.
As well as the MAGA.
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
And then there's, and Trump's strategy is
he's
every all he has to do,
he thinks, is
not debate, because the baits haven't worked well for anybody.
There were too many people.
It's kind of a circus.
And stay out of jail and prolong and prolong and prolong and then do his rallies
and pace himself because there's a lot.
A lot of critics are pointing out that he's going to be 78 if he were to be president.
He's 76.
Sometimes he gets confused where he is and all that stuff.
But
he's.
under enormous stress and he's got a political brilliant plan to turn that against the the people who are doing it and to win empathy from the Republicans.
And more importantly, the worse
his message is, the worse everything gets,
the more you need a
pit bull.
He's basically saying to the Republican Party, look at the border, look at our energy, look at the foreign policy, look at these wars.
Traditional nostrums don't work.
I'm your pit bull.
Just cut the rope.
Cut the rope.
Point me in the right direction.
And that's what he's starting to do.
So what did he do this week, pit bull-like?
He said that he was going to see the biggest,
the biggest deportations in history.
He's going to send them all back to the Middle East.
He's going to send, oh, we're going to find every illegal alien that came in under Biden.
You're going to love beautiful oil.
We're going to pump.
And so he's talking in surlatives, but that's the image he wants to convey, that to deal with these people on the left, you just have to go completely mad so that the voter says you know what i didn't like his tweets i think he's crude he's starting to really freak out now he's he's reacting attacking judges but you know what that type of mad dogness is what we need because he will chew those guys up and that's what his opponents are trying to to react to i think That's why every once in a while, you know, DeSantis says the same stuff, but he tries to be more, you know, I'm going to deport this category, this category, same thing, but not so
emotional.
Yeah, yeah, and much more methodical.
Yeah, and you look at the other side, and it's,
I keep going back to that, I think it's a pseudo-Aesop fable about belly and a cat, you know.
They're all little mice, and they know that
the cat is Joe Biden, who will devour the party if he runs.
And somebody's got to put a bell around his neck, but he may bite you.
Somebody's got to go to Joe and say, you're not going to be the candidate because you'll destroy us.
And nobody wants to be that person.
Yeah.
And they know that he can't win.
So they even thought that destroying Donald Trump would win, would keep them.
But now they've done such a good job of
making a mockery of the law that it's not that he's leading in the polls, he's leading Biden four or five points.
And they created that.
And now
they're looking around and they're thinking, hmm, Michelle, nah, Gavin, yes, Gavin.
They don't have a lot to pick from.
It's just how to get, they know what they have now and they know where they want to be.
It's just
the rub is how to get from A to B.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and talk a little bit about the British Home Secretary and maybe some ideas from from the King of Jordan, Hussein, King Hussein of Jordan.
Stay with us and we'll be right back.
Welcome back to the Victor Davis-Hansen Show.
And Victor, so the British Home Secretary was forced out of her cabinet after she complained about the British police's favoritism to Muslim demonstrators.
Is Britain lost on this issue?
She's a very interesting person.
Swella Braberman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's married to a Jewish guy.
I think she's from a South African Indian family, but I was wondering about her name.
Swella, you know what it's from?
You'll never guess.
If you guess this, I will give you
an ancient Greek word that means
the only thing I can think of is Su, Su, Su is
a word for a
porcine sound in Greek, but no.
Ah, no, I have no idea.
There's a word.
Her mother, who was an immigrant,
loved Dallas, the TV show, you remember?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And her favorite character was Sue Ellen.
Oh, wow.
Her name was, she named her daughter Sue Ellen.
And she goes by Swellen.
And they just took the two names and sounded them together.
Swea, Swella.
Very cool.
Yes.
So she was the only voice in the wilderness that was warning about these Palestinian deaths.
It was a death cult, and they were yelling like gangsters to kill, kill, kill and genocide.
And she said, you can't let this go on.
You're letting.
you're clamping down on other protesters, but you're giving these people exemptions.
And basically what she was saying to the government for which she worked was,
we don't have any principles.
All we're doing is reacting to the perceived stronger horse, right?
We're afraid that the pro-Hamas people are capable of anything,
right?
Yes.
And the Jewish, pro-Jewish will follow the law and therefore we'll...
clamp down the guys that are lawful and will empower the people who are unlawful.
And that way we'll have a path of least resistance.
And that's what they did.
She does.
And she got fired.
And her argument is sort of like the argument that Trump was making in 2016
about the Republican Party is that the Conservative Party should be winning because on all of the issues, the people are sick of these protests.
They're sick of the
flood of immigrants.
They want assimilation.
They want people to be united with their love of Britain.
But the Conservative Party is not standing up for those principles.
They're just selling out.
And people think, you know what?
If I want to get free stuff, I might as well vote Labor because they're at least honest.
You know what you get.
But why would I vote for you guys when you're just fake?
You say you're conservative and you say this and that, but you're not.
You're scared.
And so she, I think she's the future of the party.
Oh, really?
You think so?
So she's, this has been a great thing for her political career.
I think it has because that Rishi Sunak that appointed her, she pointed out that everything he said that he was going to do for her to take the job, he didn't do.
And so, I mean, they've gone through.
They're talking about bringing that hack David Cameron back.
Yeah, I heard that too.
That would be that's like bringing Tony Blair back or something.
Gosh.
But I mean, they've gone through what?
Teresa May, and then they went through
Boris, Boris Johnson, and then they went through,
they went through
another person.
Remember, she was there for just a second.
I guess it was, well, Teresa May was there first, and then it was Boris Johnson.
And then they
Boris Johnson take up a new job just recently.
I can't remember what it was, but he always needed to get back.
Some television thing.
Very bright.
He was a very bright guy that was just completely undisciplined.
Yeah.
In every aspect of his comportment.
Yeah.
And he was non-disciplined, undisciplined.
Yeah.
So
they have a bigger problem.
We always say that.
We always say, well, the Europeans have a bigger problem because they're aristocrats and they don't intermarry and integrate and assimilate to the same degree that we do.
And they've got a huge border with the Mediterranean.
And they've got.
No, I don't think that's true.
And I think we have a bigger problem.
We have 50 million people who weren't born in the United States, 27% of the population of California.
Yeah.
For somebody says, well, we assimilate.
I'd say, come down to rural Fresno County and I'll take you around and see how well people are assimilated.
Yeah.
Because I can show you people within a five-mile radius that, in their view, it's a nice, it's just like Oaxaca, only the water is clean and there's no corruption, they think.
But otherwise,
it's, you know, chickens on the road and dogs that aren't licensed and just do your own thing.
Yeah.
Well, the last thing I wanted to talk to you about is King Jordan, the king of Jordan, Hussein, has been calling for a two-state solution all of a sudden.
He said it would be, quote, a victory for our common humanity.
And I thought, boy, that's a horse that's already left the barn, the two-state solution.
He's thinking that he wants to,
once the rubble of Gaza is over with and he hopes that they kill all the Hamas people, then he wants to point the Palestinian authority over to Gaza and say, you can take Gaza and the Pal, and then you can...
will force Israel to negotiate and they'll have a nation.
And you're thinking,
well, why would they do that?
Because Hamas had spent a year fooling the Israelis by saying they wanted to make Singapore, they wanted to have guest workers, they wanted a higher standard of living, they needed more aid, they had given up armed struggle just to lull the Israelis in so they could slip their throats.
So why would they consent to something like that, to formalize a
hostile power?
I don't know what the answer is.
That'll be what everybody pushes.
But I think what the Israelis were saying,
maybe all the Gazans should just never come back and just go to Jordan.
Yeah.
Or something like that.
That's what he was saying.
You know, the word Palestinian is an ancient corruption of Philistine.
But there was no, nobody, I mean, the Jews were just, they were labeled Palestinians as were Arabs in the sense that they resided in ancient Philistine
territory.
But But it wasn't really until after the 67-day war, when
in the aftermath of losing all of that,
King Hussein, who lost the West Bank that was part of Jordan, and then when the terrorism started, he just thought, you know what?
I don't want this part of my kingdom anymore.
His dad.
I just want to give it away.
So I'll give it to all you terrorists.
It'll be called terrorist.
Oh, terrorist haven?
No, that won't work.
Call yourself Palestinian, even though you're Jordanian.
So that's what they did.
And he doesn't want it.
He doesn't want anything to do with it.
No.
And Egypt doesn't want anything to do with it.
They ruled the Gaza Strip for a while.
They don't want anything to do with it.
And the Israelis say, well, if you don't want anything to do with it and you're scared of everybody there, why don't you take them in?
And that's not going to work either.
The West and everybody will not allow Israel to reoccupy Gaza or
anything.
They're pressuring them on the West Bank already.
So
I don't know.
So Israel's just going to make this so this war become some sort of extended state of being, don't you think?
Because you're not going to want to occupy it and you're not going to want Hamas there.
Well, they had this theory of mowing the lawn that every five years you go in there and clean it out and knock a few heads and that didn't work, did it?
No.
No, you can't.
It's like,
you know, if you've got lawn and there's weeds in it, it, even mowing it won't get rid of the weeds.
Well, I've heard you talk about it's kind of like the post-World War II, go in, occupy, and change the whole mindset of the population.
Yeah.
But I don't see that happening.
Yeah.
It would be a very expensive opera.
It would be something like the 21% who live in Israel.
You'd have to say, you know what?
We will take
you Gazans, but would you really want to say that this is Israel and we're going to give you and Gaza the same type of living standards that we do with our own Arab population and therefore
we
instead of having two million Arabs, we'd have four million Arabs.
We'd go from 20% to 40% of the population.
I don't think that's going to happen.
No, they can't do that.
That would be a suicide death wish.
Yeah,
because as we've talked about here before, there's not a whole lot of distinction between Hamas and Palestinians, because the Palestinians seem to, that were not part of Hamas seemed to come in right after them, or at least they were so silent they would allow anything to go on.
I don't think Hamas understands something.
And I don't think their protesters understand something.
Everybody says the world's turned against Israel.
I don't think it has.
I think publicly it might, but I'm talking about what people really feel.
Because once you do something like that,
time of peace,
holiday, families sleeping right next to the border,
the military not really secure alert because
they felt they're in a period of
rapproprochement.
And
you let these guest workers come in, and then you learn that they're taking notes.
And
the guy who said, Hey, I'll take you to lunch or I'll fix your tire for you.
He's taking pictures of how I can come back here and slit his throat and rape his wife.
Once you do that, and once you mutilate, and once you behead, and once you incinerate, and once you torture,
that
pollutes your whole ideology, that pollutes your whole cause.
That there's just,
you're a miscreant.
Nobody wants anything to do with you.
So these protesters go out there, but people say,
wow,
they're for those.
Those are those people.
They were cheering these people on.
They're beyond the pale, and they don't understand how repugnant that is to people.
So when you can say, well, I'm on campus and I say from the river to the sea, and I got all the Jews on the run.
You may have it.
What, 150,000 students go to elite universities out of 35 million people
that are over the age of 18 in this country?
Most people do not.
They not only are not for Hamas,
they don't want anything to do with it, and they don't want anything to do with the people who are for Hamas.
It's such a polluted, tainted cause.
It's like what Germany, it was the reputation Germany had after World War II
or Japan.
And that's what Hamas is.
And that's why nobody wants it.
That's why the Egyptians and the Jordanians say, you know what?
I do not want those people anywhere near me.
And if Biden tries to bring in a lot of people from Gaza, and somebody's going to interrupt me and say, Victor, but they're not the same.
Okay, yes, they're not.
However,
somebody voted it a men.
one time and somebody was cheering all the time on news that they had slaughtered Jews and somebody followed them in there and tagged along for easy raping and easy looting and easy killing.
So, and somebody knows that where all these tunnels are and somebody didn't really protest.
So they got what they wanted, I guess you would say.
And so, but I think they're going to be pariahs.
I really do.
I think they're going to be international pariahs.
I bet if they ever had a, if, what would you do if you were in the United States and you were a customs officer and there was such a thing as a Gazan passport?
Oh, I come from Gaza.
Uh-oh,
were you one of the people that were cheering on the beheading?
You know what I mean?
It's just, it's, they don't understand that.
Everybody says, well, the young people are for them and they got these huge crowds.
No, there's 1% of the population are Arab Muslim.
And 65% of the population is vehemently against Hamas.
And they don't understand that.
A lot of people just say, I do not want anything to do with anybody who supports that cause because it's such a clear moral difference.
And
I feel sorry for a lot of the kids that are misled and they're out there.
I see them on campus and
they don't understand what they're doing.
They are basically saying, I approve of going into Israel and slitting throats and raping and beheading and putting babies in ovens and burning them up because
that's context.
It's complex.
It's context.
That's what they're for.
Ultimately, that's what they're for.
Yes.
Yes.
And
as we've said before, the women are particularly, I mean,
how ridiculous to be a woman and to be out there protesting on the on behalf of Hamas, who wouldn't let you protest at all if you were among them.
I don't think an American does.
American's here in his country, and and it's Veterans Day,
Veterans Day in his own country.
He turns on the television, there's some guy in Palestinian garb tearing down flags on Veterans Day with everybody cheering them on.
Is that a way to win over American foreign policy?
Yeah.
To go in and have Rashida Talib scream and yell and call everybody names?
And I'm never going to forget, you know what she said?
She said, we're not going to let you forget this, Joe Biden.
And he's thinking, okay,
you have have 200,000 voters in Michigan, but you're not going to change the country.
And what does she think she has?
Thank God she's not going to change it.
What does she think she has?
Where's her lever coming, her pressure?
Is the Hispanic community saying in Fresno County, oh my God, Talib said that Joe Biden is genocide Joe.
I'm not going to vote for him anymore.
No, they're not going to vote for him, but it's not because of that.
Yeah.
Well, Victor, thank you for everything today.
I have two comments from your listeners from
Apple Podcasts.
They're nice ones.
I just have a couple of short thank yous.
One says, Americans are as frustrated as you, VDH.
All the American mess today can be corrected and did not need to happen.
But here we are.
Your comments toward the end of the podcast today regarding your visitor from Israel and his comment regarding your collection admi and stitches thank you victor victor these are not guns
these are not guns these are relics these are antiques but they're not they're not the adequate gun you need you're not going to defend yourself with those no i'm i know it i thought wow
he was an inverness person and he was very
That was from the outdoor painter Gwen, by the way.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah.
What's the other one?
The second one is, again, thank you, Victor.
And it says, Victor is amazing with his insight about our culture and political environment.
I save his podcast to listen to during my chores on our ranch here in Texas.
Thank you, Victor, for telling the truth and giving us facts to understand the world that we live in today.
Prayers to you and your family.
Cattle girl, me.
And that's all.
You know, I got some emails that were hostile.
I'm getting more of them.
One of them said, you're a hypocrite because you still work at Stanford and you criticize Stanford.
Why don't you quit?
I don't, I'm not a professor at Stanford.
I am a tenured senior fellow at Hoover.
Hoover Institution, yes, it's part of Stanford, but it's trying, its whole existence is to give
an opposite point of view than Stanford.
Read its mission statement.
Read its founding documents.
It's small government, personal freedom, free market capitalism in the context of war and peace.
And strong deterrence, strong military.
It's not the Stanford Faculty Senate.
Maybe the Stanford Faculty Senate thinks it is and is trying to take us over.
But
I don't understand that.
I mean, I can be criticizing a lot of things, but the fact that I'm at the Hoover Institution and criticizing what Stanford has become is not a contradiction that I'm at the Hoover Institution.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah,
it doesn't make any sense.
And I get a lot of those recently.
And
no, I do.
And then somebody said, well, you should give us a little.
I'm going to print.
Well, I have two more really nutty, angry leaders, you guys, next week that are coming out.
But then I have two kind ones.
I mean, they're kind, they're polite, they're rational criticism.
I will put that.
Well, the biggest criticism I get is on the 2020 election.
People think that I haven't been strong enough in suggesting or telling or denouncing the result as crooked.
But I do think that the election was suspect, but it wasn't, it was done according to Molly Ball's essay.
I keep quoting that February 2022 essay.
It was.
It was changing the voting laws in eight or nine states.
So it was 70% mail-in balloting with no authentication.
And the error rate or the fail rate of ballots just
dropped by a magnitude of 10.
That was a difference.
They knew that.
They had planned that for months under the guise or the subtech
of COVID.
So I plead innocent on that too.
I'm special pleading where nobody can object, but
I...
Anyway,
I want to end on a positive note.
Thing about all these things we talk about,
if you had any of the Republicans that are running the top three,
any of them,
we wouldn't even have to be, I mean, it would be reversed.
They could stop the border tomorrow.
They will if they get elected.
I'm convinced of that.
Yes, they will finish the will, they'll deport a lot of people, they'll recreate deterrence, and you'll have no illegal immigration to speak of.
And I think they'll start drilling and
billing pipelines and get us back to affordable energy.
And I think the trans movement that sterilizes, I guess,
neuters people and says parents don't have a say and all that, it'll start to just be what it was before, that it was an odd, gender dysmorphic, very rare occurrence, but people should be treated with dignity that actually suffer rather than hysteria about, you know,
men
competing in women's sports.
I think all that, what I'm saying is that broad, it's all correctable.
We can balance the budget.
We can get to it.
We can reduce the debt very easily.
We can build a huge military and so that China doesn't get any false ideas that we're weak and try something stupid.
We can do all of that.
We can do it in four years if we just
it requires everybody, it requires a good leader to unite people, but it also asks something of us that we have to say, if your candidate does not win the Republican nomination, please vote for the alternative candidate that you didn't vote for in the general election.
As bad as you think that candidate is, he's much better.
She's much better than the alternative.
Yes.
That's very important to you
behind a common
candidate that is more conservative than Joe Biden.
And if you're going to make the abortion issue, and I'm against abortion, but if you're going to make that an issue, then for all means, you've got to match dollar for dollar, campaign ad for campaign.
So if they're going to run, I don't know, a 12-year-old girl who says she was raped by her father because
Judge Roberts or somebody,
Aliodo passed this or
Ron DeSantis is for it, or whatever it is, then you have to run, you have to go do code.
You have to run an ad about a partial birth abortion and say 10,000 of them are being performed, and there are babies who feel real pain who are being killed.
That's what you want to do.
If you want to do that, I'm not suggesting you do it.
Make that your central issue.
But do not say you're going to run on banning all abortions and then be outspent 10 to 1 and
not go nuclear when they try to defame you and caricature into you're for rape and incest, and then not talk about
the fact that they're okay with actual partial birth abortions or really infants being killed in some cases, then don't bring it up unless you're going to go nuclear.
Yeah,
all right.
Well, with that, Victor, we'll say goodbye to America for this episode of the Victor Davis-Hanson Show.
Thank you, everybody, for listening.
Much appreciated.
This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis-Hanson, and we're signing off.
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