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Well, Victor, there's a lot on the agenda tonight.
I know that we were just currently watching the debates, and I was wondering if you had some reflections on how our Republican Party is doing in general.
Well,
one
day
after the
Tuesday elections,
and the Kentucky
race didn't turn out very well.
Andy Bashir was re-elected, Democrat, and how do you do that in Kentucky?
A lot of reasons that people cite, but still it's a reflection there's something wrong with the Republican Party.
And then Lynn Young did a yeoman job canvassing the entire state of Virginia to expand his house to include a Senate majority, then he would be able to rush through a conservative agenda.
And
he not only did not take the state Senate, he lost the House.
So now he's stymied.
For the next two years, he will not be able to pass anything.
And the
anti-abortion platform is sort of inert.
Ohio had a referendum to allow abortions.
So it's the general consensus is that the Republicans
have all of the issues, but they lack three
key things.
They're not organized, they don't have the money, and they don't understand that the Democrats are looking for wedge issues that bring people out to vote on one particular item, and that is abortion.
So if you forget whether the pro-life or pro-choice position, we get the moral, I know people are going to say you can't get the morality.
I'm very anti-abortion, but that issue has been demagogued by the Democrats so that if you have an eight-week or nine-week ban, it's political suicide unless you can raise dollar for dollar,
what the Democrats do.
And then you can make the argument that partial birth abortion, which is $8,000 or $9,000 a year, is murder or whatever you want to do.
But you just can't go to a red echo chamber and say, red state echo chamber and said, oh, I'm pro-life.
I'm pro-choice.
I'm pro-this.
They don't do that.
They raise the money and they organize and then they demagogue it.
And then they say women are going to be killed in back alleys, and Republicans want to get into your womb and all that.
And all Republicans do, they said, I'm pro-life.
It's the right choice.
I'm not going to budge.
And then we're going to ban abortions at eight or nine weeks.
And that's a losing issue politically.
That's what they found out.
So now you've only got a year left.
And look what we we're looking at in Connecticut with all that ballot stuffing.
We had people working for the registrar going out and stuffing ballots in mail-drop.
And that's going to happen.
And the Republicans don't believe any of these polls that say Trump is five points ahead.
He's winning.
It's going to be a blowout.
No.
I learned my lesson in the midterms, last midterms.
I thought they would win 30 seats.
That was so wrong because of abortion and balloting.
As a general rule, if you're a Republican candidate, you must be four to five points ahead in the polls to break even on Election Day because
your constituencies, 70% of them will show up on Election Day and 70% of theirs won't.
When you vote on Election Day, usually with an ID in most states, they can ascertain who you are.
When you have a mail-in ballot, they cannot.
There's no way to ascertain the validity of that ballot, and the Democrats know that.
So essentially, two-thirds of their voters are not audited, and 170% or two-thirds of Republicans are.
And then the other problem is when you say, I'm going to vote, yeah, yeah, I'll vote, I'll vote.
But actually getting out of bed in the morning, going to work, taking off work, going to vote, coming back, or on the way home, people say, well, what would one vote make a difference?
White vote will make a difference.
So they don't vote.
Whereas just sitting around and have a Democratic activist knock on your door and say, we found out that you're not registered.
We're going to same day register you, okay?
Here's a ballot.
And we'll hand deliver.
And here's who you should vote for.
That's a lot easier than getting up and going all the way out
to the polls.
So that was abortion and the balloting not being organized to get out the vote.
And then they don't have the money.
They do not have the money.
The money is on the left, and the left spends it much more.
So, if they're going to win a year from now, this should be a very, this is a very valuable wake-up call because there was a sense of complacency given these anti-Biden polls that were coming out.
Well, we don't, we're just coast.
You know, Biden's toast.
Yeah, he's toast, but it doesn't mean his party can't win.
He can be a
non-composmentis.
He can be in a coma, and they can wheel him out in a hospital gurney, and he will win if you don't watch out.
So
raise money,
find a strategy to deal with the abortion issue,
and watch the polls and get everybody to mail in their ballot.
Have a massive vote harvesting, ballot curing, you name it, tit for tat.
Just what they do, you do twice.
If you don't do that, you're going to play by the Marquis of Queensbury lose.
You're going to be a noble loser, and they're going to be an ugly winner.
And you can pick which one you'd rather be.
Well, what were your thoughts then on the debate
and
how the Republicans are showing in those?
I don't really quite understand it myself because you don't have Trump.
I watched it here on my TV, and I watched an hour and a half.
And the first thing is, Trump is not there.
Yes.
So you're really having a debate for the second person.
If you count today's polls, Trump is anywhere from 45 to 46 percent of the primary voters.
And DeSantis is 18, and Haley is 16, and Ramaswamy is 8, and Scott is 4.
And you add them all up,
then they have more than Trump does.
Trump won the 2016 nomination without a majority of all the votes.
But he got by far the most votes.
So they said then, we're going to unite on behalf.
That was the old Bill Crystal Never Trump pipe dream, and they could never do it.
Trump just made sure that didn't happen.
So it's not going to happen
unless they can unite among the people who come out of Iowa and New Hampshire with the most votes.
And then the other person should concede if they want to challenge Trump.
But
I don't know what Chris Christie is doing on the stage.
I do not know what Scott, I like him, but what is he doing on the stage?
Their polls are anemic.
I don't know what Ramaswamy's 8%.
He's funny.
It was kind of predictable.
He went after Nikki Haley to destroy her and call her all sorts of names, Dick Cheney and the high heels, stuff like that.
And then she went, it was kind of like dominoes or, I don't know, some kind of chain where the person, Scott, goes after Ramaswamy, Ramaswamy goes
after Haley.
Haley goes after DeSantis.
And it's all based on you go after the person that's pulling ahead of you.
Yeah.
And then the idea is that you come out of the debate and then you tell everybody else to unite behind you.
But
the only difference that I can see in the candidates is
Haley,
Christie,
and
Haley and Christie and Scott want to give a blank check to Ukraine.
And
I guess you would say DeSantis DeSantis
and who else?
Ramaswamy, yeah.
They just,
well, Ramaswamy didn't mind giving them a damn cent anymore.
No.
But
DeSantis wants to give them the wherewithal to protect themselves and get back the land of 2014, excuse me, 2022, but not on to Moscow, you know, fight over the Donbass and Crimea ad infinitum.
So that was an issue.
I don't think,
I don't know what Haley's Haley's talking about.
Fracking.
DeSantis inherited a state where they'd had oil spills.
So it was written into their legislation that you couldn't frack off the coast.
So she was saying that he was for that.
It was just...
It was very boring, Sammy.
I mean, I kept falling asleep.
And I thought that...
DeSantis had a very good - he was very good.
That was the most animated he was.
He had a command of the facts.
Haley was, I thought she wasn't as dominating as she was was the last time.
Ramaswamy was, I don't know what it is.
I like what he says, but he's so obnoxious.
So when he tells it, tears apart the moderators.
I hadn't seen that since Newt Ginrich did that in 2012.
But, you know, he said, we should have Joe Rogan here.
And that was Tucker Carlson.
And Elon Musk.
And he said, not you guys.
You guys are the ones that went in for the Russian
Russia hoax.
I know.
I know.
I mean, Democrats don't have Fox after Fox after Fox, right?
Yeah.
But they should just have Fox because all the rest of them are biased.
So that was good.
But then when he goes after,
I don't know who he was going after.
I said he's going after Haley, but he went after everybody.
And he's very, he's got all these can slurs, and he's not going to be nominated.
And I didn't understand about the whole China thing.
TikTok.
Did he say Haley's daughter has a TikTok app?
She has a TikTok on her phone.
And so he was accusing her via her daughter.
She said
he ran a company with a huge portfolio in China.
He said
she's a multi-millionaire because of her foreign investments, or defense contracting, revolving door, whatever, but she doesn't have as much money as he does.
And he made a lot of it in China.
So again, I'm just watching this.
I think all our listeners are listening to this and we're thinking, there's really only one
issue, and that is, is Donald Trump going to be the nominee?
And that's predicated on how he handles these four crushing indictments, gag orders,
house, maybe house confinement, who knows,
and whether the other candidates can unite behind one person.
And this didn't, what's going on right now doesn't clarify that.
And so Donald Trump is, his whole family are being persecuted.
It's really pathetic by this crazy Letita James and this gorgonic Mazenter judge.
And
it's just a question of how's that going to play out?
And it's beyond our hands right now.
It's in the hands of four prosecutors that are left-wing and four left-wing judges and three left-wing juries.
And Donald Trump's 76 years old, and he has reason to be really pissed off, if I could use that expletive.
And as far as the other candidates, people are going to lose interest.
Donald Trump gets on that stage and it's going to be electrifying and they'll get a huge audience but they can't coax him or slur or slander him on that stage.
And
I was naive.
I think I said to our audience, I don't know what Donald Trump is going to do for each of these debates,
but
You know, he was on Tucker.
That was good.
But now
he's not getting getting the attention.
But the point I didn't realize is there is no attention.
You know what I mean?
People aren't glued to their TV sets watching this debate.
No.
So it's not like he's losing a venue.
No, isn't he having a rally tonight, I think?
Yeah, he's going to have rallies.
He's going to talk to Tucker, whatever.
But
they don't have the ability to get the attention.
And part of it is
that this is ridiculous to have Scott and Ramaswamy and Christie on that stage.
It should be the two top people.
That right now is DeSantis and Haley.
They agree almost everything with Trump on social policy.
Their arguments against Trump is: Haley is, let's look forward and he was good for his time, but his time is past.
And DeSantis' argument is
he didn't do, he didn't build the wall, he didn't drain the swamp, he ran up the debt.
Okay.
Then have them two debate that.
They can debate Ukraine.
They can debate abortion.
They can debate all these issues.
And let's see how they do up to, I don't know, South Carolina.
And then one of them will be ahead of the other one.
Yeah.
And more viable.
And then they should do a Joe Biden.
They should all get out
who's left and endorse the person.
And then that person and Donald Trump should debate.
And we'll see.
People haven't seen if Trump's rusty or he's still
self.
We don't know how these candidates will do against Trump.
No.
Then we've got to get it over by May, April.
Then everybody has to unite among the winner.
Nobody should be on that stage who says,
if I don't get the nomination, I'm not sure that I won't endorse somebody.
Everybody gets on that stage and says, I will endorse the winner.
These people don't have any idea how close we are to
oblivion, the traditionalist conservative movement.
On every issue, we are getting killed.
We're getting killed on the border.
We're getting killed on crime.
We're getting killed on inflation.
We're getting killed on the economy.
We're getting killed on physical sobriety.
We're getting killed on foreign policy.
We're getting killed on the cultural issues.
You mean we're getting killed as citizens who are now subject to the policies of the left?
Yes.
Our representatives
are not able to translate 51% opposition to the Biden agenda into meaningful
electoral wins.
Yeah, they can't win.
That was one thing Chris
Santis said that was correct.
He said a lot of the good things, but he said, you know, we've got to win.
And if you don't win, and you lose the 2008 midterms, and you lose the House, and then
you lose the Senate in 2020,
and then you lost, you don't have either one, and then you are supposed to take it back in 2022, and you get a meager five or six seat advantage.
And you only have half of one-third of government, and then you're all fighting about the speaker, and you're fighting this and this.
And
meanwhile, the people say, there's 8 million people here.
And you see Mayorkas, he's been on there.
He just basically sticks his middle finger at those people.
He said, I'm not going to answer anything.
I'm just going to, you know,
and I don't know.
I don't know.
They should impeach him.
They really should.
That would really get the attention of the country.
They should say, you know what, 8 million people.
And then they should run ads with him not answering questions with the backdrop of that open border and millions of stats going like trailers across the screen, 8 million people.
He's done more damage.
And believe me,
he
and Dick Durbin
and
the whole Chuck Schumer and the Senate and Joe Biden, they will let in a million Gaussians.
That's one of the reasons they're going to get out of this whole thing, because they feel that they might lose the Arab vote or the moderate regimes.
Once they say, well, we're going to let them in, then everybody thinks, wow, this was worth it.
We're going to get a million more of these guys to be at Harvard Yard or the Stanford Free Speech or out in New York blasting Jews and River to the Sea chants.
And wow, more oil, golf oil money for more professorships in the Middle Eastern study, all this.
Yes, if they let in a million Gazans, we'll be happy.
And so
everybody's got to wake up, man.
We're looking at some things we have never seen before.
Never seen 100,000 Americans killed by fentanyl.
We've never seen cartels basically run the border.
We've never seen that many people come in.
We've never seen a...
I don't know what you'd call it, a chain of disaster with the Chinese balloon and the
Afghan humiliation in Kabul and the Ukrainian invasion, now Gaza, and then the overt talking about war from China.
Never seen all of that in my lifetime.
And then when you look at the economy, he keeps saying bidenomics because unemployment rate is 4%.
You were in COVID and everybody wasn't working, so they poured tons of money in and they created this artificial demand and they spiked inflation and they were short workers.
And so of course the unemployment rate is pretty good.
But if you look at food and fuel and housing and health care from January 21st of 2021 to December 9th, the 10th, 2023, it's gone up 25%.
And people can't afford it.
I bought a little ribeye steak again today.
It was $26.
And the little thing looked like my heel on my shoe.
It was about a quarter inch.
It was like five minutes on the grill, and it looked like a burnt dog tongue or something.
And that was ribeye.
You're going to have to become a vegetarian.
You're going to have to do something.
And then I filled up today, and they had a big sign, you know, it's under $5, $5.88 a gallon.
Wow, $4.88 a gallon.
What was it when Trump came in or when he left?
It was like $2.50.
It was $2.40 nationwide in California.
It got down below $3.
Yeah.
Sad.
It was.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, I don't want to be.
I know I just watch this debate and it's evening.
And I've been up since 4 in the morning kind of writing about all this.
So I'm just,
I guess I'm, what, despairing today?
Yeah.
We're going to cheer you up.
Cheer me up, man.
I want to give me some good news.
I don't know what you're gonna talk, ask me, but let's go.
Okay, so let's first take a break.
So, everybody, stay with us.
We're gonna do some cheering up here, and we'll come right back and talk a little bit more.
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Yes.
So, Victor, maybe I was thinking that this manifesto by Audrey Hale that was released to Stephen Crowder,
At least we got some of it, three pages, and she had a lot of
slurs and cracker.
Yeah, little cracker and white privilege.
I don't think anybody realizes
that if you make a national dialogue narrative and you keep saying white privilege, white privilege, white people, white people, white rage, white rage, white supremacy, white supremacy.
And that's okay
in a way that would be absolutely forbidden to substitute
black for white, Latino for white, Asian for white, trans for white, gay for white, okay?
Even women for white.
And you keep doing it.
It filters down.
And so you've got this crazy trans shooter.
And she's full of racism, but she thinks that somehow that she's going to demonize these innocent little kids and call them crackers and white privilege.
And that's going to somehow, in her mind, and for posterity, justify the mass murdering she did.
And it's everywhere now.
The whole subtext of this crazy, these crazy demonstrations here in the United States with these pro-Hamas, River to the Sea, get rid of Israel, is that
we and the DEI movement have fused with the Palestinians.
And just as we're against white male privilege,
white rage people who can't take the fact that, can't admit they believe in white supremacy, so Israel is.
Israel is.
Israel is a white colonial interloper, imperialist, just like white males in this country.
And
that is a drawback.
And then, you know, we had...
We have all these things.
Now it's Buffy St.
Marie.
I grew up listening to her songs.
She's a faker so once you say white white white white is horrible then you're gonna have all these white people faking identities just like you when you said black people are horrible you had people trying to be white and now you're trying to be non-white for careerist advantage or survival and you got to stop it and when mark milley or lloyd austin get in front of the country and they they start praising this crazy kindy that it can't even, you know, 50 million bucks disappeared on his
research center was whole predicated on his book that says you have to be racist to stop racism.
And you quote that guy with
praise, you're going to have 50 million, you're going to have 50,000 people not showing up.
And it's very funny about the military.
They say, oh, people are too fat.
They're in gangs.
They take drugs.
And they've always been fat.
They've always taken drugs.
But right now, abruptly, you're 50,000 soldiers short.
Maybe it's Kabul.
Maybe it's you keep promoting people on the basis of DEI.
Maybe you make fun and you say that these people are irredeemable or they're deplorable or they're clingers or they're dregs or they're chumps or they're semi-fascist.
Whatever it is, that is
resulting in this massive lack of recruitment, this drop-off.
And it's got to end.
And
if we learned anything from this Hamas hysteria is you've got to get rid of the entire DEI.
And you've got to go back to a Martin Luther King Jr.
moment when he said, and at least he said in the origins of civil right, that you did not want to look at a person's skin color or race.
We're just going to have to get rid of it.
And then we're going to have to have a merocratic situation.
And maybe that means no legacies, no rich people pay off Harvard to let their kid in.
Fine.
Make it pure merit.
And if one particular group doesn't get in enough medical students, then you say, you know what?
Start opening institutions in the inner city or the barrio or the suburbs, wherever you live and you think you're inordinately represented, do what the Asians do.
They don't cry.
They just go out and they make an
institutional cultural ethos that says, we're going to study, study, study, study, and beat the majority at their own game.
And they do.
And every more power to them.
And if people do not want to
feel that they're disproportionately disproportionately represented, then stop it.
But don't cry and yell and scream.
Not in 2023.
This is not 1965.
And so my advice and my attitude is for the African-American community, the Latino community, any community that feels they're disproportionately represented, then
start opening charter schools in your neighborhood, prep academies, uniforms, mandatory Latin, calculus, and beat the majority at its own game.
And I know you can do it because look at just sports, for example.
Would I say, wow,
the most important thing and the highest, the most prestigious
celebrity billet is to be an NBA star.
You're a universal global star.
You become a near-billionaire.
You're all over TV.
You get all of these.
I want to be part of that.
And you say, well,
Victor, it's emericratic.
I'm sorry, your kid is not going to make it.
And I said, Well, wait a minute, he's white male.
And there's only 30% of the MBA, it's not even that high, I think, are white, yet they make up 69% of the population.
So, I want my little quota.
And so, just as the SAT score has to be adjusted for college admissions, I say that anybody who's white should, if he has a shooting percentage of 25%, you up it to 50
just arbitrarily by fiat, and then
we'll get proportional representation.
And the result would be a very uninteresting NBA.
Nobody would watch it.
And so
you just have to have meritratic standards across the board and get rid of this obsession and fixation with race.
Because if you don't, it's going to end up to what we saw in Nashville with a shooter.
It's going to end up with people yelling.
screaming on the Brooklyn Bridge, they want to destroy Israel.
It was very telling when someone interviewed, it was a clip on the internet, and they went up to a young Palestinian supporter and she was yelling, you know, genocide, genocide, Joe Biden, all this, and they said, well, what do you want?
And she said, I want to free Palestine.
And they said, well, explain what that means.
And she says, go back to 1947.
So she said it, and that was full of hatred.
And she thought that was permissible to say it because there's no downside.
And there's no downside because she thinks she's a member of the diversity, equity, inclusion community, and therefore they cannot be racist.
Get rid of it all, and everybody,
as I said before, Luce Liberates, a free-for-all.
Let everybody get in the arena of ideas and careers and compete with each other and up the bar of excellence.
And then the people who can't compete, then have people tutor them and mentor them and find a niche where they do very well.
And don't leave them at the wayside.
But this idea that you're lowering standards and you're going into pre-civilizational tribalism, it'll lead to more and more people shooting people and saying, you know, they're crackers or they're just this, this, this.
Every time I've seen a clip from The View
or I see these network drama, they just say it as if it's, I can't believe it's nonchalant, white privilege, white supremacy, white, white, white, white.
The other day I was looking at the DirecTV
movies on the guide, and it was White Men Men Can't Jump and White Whitey and White
the titles of movies.
So, these leading people don't realize that what they're doing is very racist.
What they're saying is very racist.
You think they do?
I think they don't.
I think they think they're being moral and that this is.
Well, they think they're being moral, but they don't do it.
And I'll give you an example.
The reason I'm kind of ranting right now is because I was watching the Talib censure vote.
So she's censored, and then she gets the squad, people of color.
AOC,
Ilyan Almore,
Presley, and then Talib herself.
This is about a person of color.
This is about black.
No, it's not.
You people are pushing a lie that says that Israel blew up a hospital, and that lie led to riots and death throughout the Middle East and riots here at home, and you still promulgate it because it's Jews.
You people,
Taliban especially, put on your social media from the river to the sea.
That means no Jews anywhere else between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean.
There's a lot of literature.
That goes all the way back to the founding charters, that slogan.
It's an ancient slogan.
And they know it.
And they know they're...
anti-Semite racist.
And yet they feel that they can say, I'm part of the DEI, I'm a black woman, I'm a poor woman, I'm a person of color.
And bam, we're all going to say, okay,
you can be as anti-Semitic as you want.
I'm sorry.
No, everybody's going to have to say, look, you're an individual with free will.
And you're going to be judged by the content of your character and what you say and do.
And we don't care what you look like.
And Ms.
Tlaib,
you are an upper, upper-class elite.
And Ms.
Omar, once you left your home in Somali and you came over here, this country gave you subsidized education.
You are an elite.
You married probably your brother to get over here, and we let that go.
And now you married your campaign manager that you were funneling money to.
Bam.
And AOC, you're an elite.
Don't believe it.
You're an elite.
You've had a pampered life.
You were a suburban Connecticut girl.
Don't tell us that you've been a victim.
And OPRA, don't tell us anymore that you go to a Swiss boutique and somebody doesn't show you a $75,000 alligator purse quick enough and therefore they're racious.
Or Michelle, don't tell us that you were in a target and somebody asked you because you're very tall compared to the short woman to reach up and you felt that that was racist.
We're just sick of it.
Just go out and live your life.
And from now on, I think everybody that's listening and everybody in this country holds everybody to the same standard, no matter what they look like, no matter what their pedigree is.
This is 2023.
And if you start judging and castigating and smearing entire groups, Jews, whites,
whoever they are, without any collective, any interest that they're made up of a lot of individuals.
And in the case of this white supremacy, I wanted to say to Millie when he was saying that, I wanted to say to him,
one of my dreams when I watched that horrible June 2022 testimony, Maybe it was 2021, and he was going on about reading Kindy and he wanted to, remember that?
And Austin?
I thought.
That's stupid.
Just a minute.
What group has the highest suicide rate, General?
What group has the only, what ethnic, racial group is the only group that life expectancy is declining?
What particular group suffered inordinately from fentanyl destructive behavior that led to mass death?
What particular group died at twice their demographics in combat in Iraq?
Could it be the people you say are enjoying all these privileges just because you as a Princeton person and a very
blessed person, have a lot of privilege, and you say that everybody that happens to have an incidental resemblance to you shares that privilege?
You should go out and look, go down to Tulare and talk to people.
Go in the Sierra Foothills and see poor whites.
They're among the poorest people you'll ever find.
And so this idea that we're just going to lump everything makes me really upset.
And I have a distant, you know, when I I have close friends that I've known for 50 years
and I haven't seen in a while, and I see them, whether they're former students or colleagues, and the intervaling
timeframe has been woke, right, and DEI.
So say I saw them in 2015 or at 2017 or 18, and then woke came, right, with George Floyd and got its pinnacle.
And then they start almost immediately assuming that you're on the same page with them.
Well, I'm the, you know, as a person of color, and I didn't realize that I was discriminated against.
And my mom told me a story the other day what a racist,
I just say, that's it.
It's not that I'm in denial, it's that they are fabricating and creating a whole new storyline because they feel that the mood of the country rewards victimhood if you can find a victimizer.
I usually say, well, who did this to you?
Who did this to you?
Who did this to you?
You know?
I had a student who was going on and on and on and on and on.
And I saw them on occasion about how he had looked back and how unfair it was.
It's who did this to you?
Name me the name.
Were you on scholarship?
Were you competitively admitted?
Did you, when you wanted an infinite study, was it given to you?
Were people...
Talk go over your paper.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Well, what was it then?
Tell me.
Well, this, they can't.
And so if they say, well, I was poor and
we didn't have a big house, well, join the club.
Yeah, exactly.
Join the club.
Well, Victor, if we could turn maybe to China for a second and then some just independent issues.
I don't want to talk about China policy broadly.
But it seems to me that we just learned from their TikTok
or from what's happened with TikTok and this anti-Semitism and this pro-Palestinian movement on the camera has been really fostered by that.
And the Chinese are in control of what goes in and out.
So it's no longer
Facebook or Twitter and then
monitoring our own who own these big companies, but the Chinese now
deciding what they want to put in and out.
And I think that this moment has really been illustrative because I think those TikTok videos had really influenced the younger generation.
It's not that they're the chief form of information.
It's the only form for millions of people.
And it's all won by the Chinese Communist Party.
And when you add that in
to
fentanyl going through Mexico and then feeding us our kids TikTok and buying farm, it just baffles me because it's so asymmetrical.
What wait now if we were, it was the 19th century, we were sending opium again to China, like the British did.
Or what if it was,
I don't know, the 1930s and we were going and buying up all the farmland in China, huh?
Or
we had some kind of propaganda where all the media in China was, or their youth, were lapping up our newspapers or something.
They would go crazy.
So
I don't think people understand human nature.
I really don't.
They don't understand the tragic sense of human nature.
And that is, we all wish the Sermon on the Mount was the operative.
But remember, the Sermon on the Mount is counterintuitive.
It is antithetical.
It's heterodox.
It's trying to introduce a new way of thinking contrary to human nature.
And it's trying to improve human nature.
It doesn't mean it's successful because Jesus died on the cross, but it's the aspiration to do that.
But if you don't understand human nature and you think that by letting China buy your farmland or control the thoughts of your children or poison your youth with drugs, that they're going to look at that magnanimity and reciprocate, you're crazy.
There's nothing more amoral than allowing immorality to happen.
because you're virtue signaling or you feel you're too morally superior.
And the history is just the wreckage of bodies and corpses of self-appointed virtue signalers and performance artists who thought that they were going to show everybody they were going to turn the other cheek and got a lot of people killed.
And you should read what Chamberlain, when Stanley Baldwin died
after World War II, they asked Churchill and he said
it would have been better if that man had never lived.
He was a member of the Conservative Party and Churchill had begged him to up the production of hurricanes and to to speed the development of Spitfires, and he wouldn't do it.
And he's, you know, the bomber always gets through.
The bomber always gets through.
We can't stop it.
And so Churchill was really, he was right on.
That man would have, we would have been better off.
That man never lived.
And you feel that sometimes with what we're doing now in the Middle East.
You know, I don't know what we're doing with Blinken and Sullivan and Biden, but they don't understand human nature.
This pause, what is that intended to to do?
And this morning, uh Blinken warned Israel against a Gazan occupation or blockade.
What are they they're adding stupid to stupidity?
I don't I don't you remember with that little speech on October 7th, O'Biden, when he got his little reptilian look and he said, I stand with Israel, walk hard, no exceptions, always.
Well, I thought to myself, three days or four?
That's the first thing I I think I said here on it with Jack.
I said it'll be about four days when the pressure starts.
And any other country that suffered that, what would Putin do if a bunch of Ukrainians had had a commando raid into Russia and raped Russian women and baked a child and beheaded and committed necrophilia?
What would he have done?
He would have nuked them.
And what would the Chinese do if the Uyghurs broke out of one of their camps and did that?
And what would they say if there's a million people in a camp, and by the way, I'm not suggesting the Palestinians are in a camp, but there's a million Uyghurs in education or work camps.
Let's say 2,000 break out and they kill and mutilate 1,000 Chinese.
I bet you there's not going to be a million Uyghurs anymore.
And for those countries to lecture us and even to listen to that is crazy.
And
what would the Palestinians,
I don't understand.
What are they thinking?
That
the IDF has not responded.
It's October 7th.
You get news that there's these horrible mutilations and killing and beheadings.
And the first thing you do is go out in the street and start cheering and saying you want to destroy Israel.
And everybody's going to look at that and say, wow, I think we should have more of these students.
They're very informed.
They're expressing their right of dissent.
This is very impressive.
I think I'm going to change my view about Israel.
Is that what they thought?
Yeah.
Anytime you have two groups, one group doesn't wear a mask, the other group wears mask.
One group doesn't tear down posters, the other group does.
One group doesn't start getting in your face and trying to have confrontations with the police.
One group does.
One group has placards that call for mass death, the other group doesn't.
You look at the Jewish, pro-Jewish, and look at the pro-Pal, and
it's just a reduction of
the whole struggle over there.
All the issues, Palestine versus Israel, are reified on the streets of America in the different attitude, tone, etc.
Yeah.
But anyway,
that's just the way it is.
It is.
Well, Victor, let's go to a break and then come back for my other Chinese question.
So stay with us and we'll be right back.
We're back.
And, Victor, so my second thing about China is, and I know that we've already talked about Newsom going over there and his plans, but now he has invited the Chinese Premier Xi over here
and he's actually cleaning up San Francisco.
And I thought, wow, that's a really nice thing.
I wish, you know, and running for office, we know too that we're getting a lot of things that should be done done now.
But I was wondering if
what you thought on
that.
And then also, just I was reading an article on crime in El Salvador, and they were talking about that president there who's just rounding up and arresting and putting into prison all the gang members.
And their daily crime rate in 2015 was 18.2 people a day.
And now in 2022, 1.2
people
per day.
Of violent offenders.
Yeah.
I think it's murders.
Murders per 100,000 of the population.
Yeah.
Yes.
Well, I mean, where did they get the idea?
They got the idea from California.
Three strikes and you're out.
So that started in Fresno, California.
And what did we do?
We said, if you've committed three felonies, you're not going to get out, period.
And then we went out and built all these prisons everybody got upset about.
And guess what?
By 2005, 2008, we had the crime rate had just crashed in California.
And you could go, I used to speak for National Review at the regional
NRO symposium in San Francisco.
And it was, I don't know, a mile from the hotel.
I would walk out.
I'd come back at 10.30 at night.
The streets were immaculate.
lights glaring, people singing, walking around.
Go to New York for publicity for a particular book, 2007, 2010.
Gosh, I thought it was safer than Selma, California.
And you get rid of all of that, and you get what we have now.
Newsom's got a losing proposition.
The idea that you're going to go over
and seek out in a humiliating fashion the premier of China.
at a time when he's threatened to destroy Taiwan.
And we have these wars in Afghanistan and Gaza.
And you do all these photo ops, the profile, the sunglasses, the basketball, all that stuff, the kayaking, and you think you're going to project an image of young vigorousness and can-do JFK.
And you're going to do that with the background of this horrific nation.
That is, this party is the worst party in the history of civilization.
If you adjudicate that by the number, it's killed.
60 to 80 million people under Mao.
And they haven't renounced that.
They embrace Mao.
So my point is, and then you're going to invite him over here, and then you will not do anything for the people of California when you were lieutenant governor of governor.
But you will if a communist thug is coming over.
Then you're going to start to look at the border.
You're going to start to look at homelessness.
And in particular, if you're going to run against Joe Biden, suddenly you're going to have people outside picking up, you know, trash on 101 or 99 and they're going to on I-5, then all of a sudden you're going to start rebuilding rebuilding the roads that are in horrific shape.
You're going to look at the border.
It's so transparent.
It's really awful that
the Chinese government gets more attention than the voters of California.
Do you think that's going to be a winning message?
I'm going to do for America what I did for California, and I'm going to have a new era of cooperation.
He's a strategic partner, Qi,
and we're going to have a close partnership with China.
And therefore, it's kind of like the Iran deal transferred to Taiwan.
You know what I mean?
The more that we appease Iran, the less likely they'll get a bomb, and the nicer they'll be to Israel.
It doesn't work.
I wish it did work, but it does not work.
Well, my last subject then is Saudi Arabia.
And I was reading on it today because I was wondering what its interests were since it was so close to some sort of normalization with Israel.
At least that's the word that they use.
But I came across something interesting that there's a lot of large banks and financial concerns that are worried that
Saudi Arabia with maybe some others in the Middle East, just like OPEC in 1973, might create an oil crisis to punish the United States for helping Israel in this conflict.
And I was wondering if you had any thoughts on that.
Well, it wouldn't be to punish the United States for
our support of Israel.
It would be more
complex and this, I shouldn't say complex, more cynical.
Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and the Emirates, all of them except for Gutter,
they want Hamas destroyed because Hamas stirs up terrorism and they have no legitimacy.
They haven't been elected.
So they never know what public opinion is.
And they don't want terrorists killing
their people and trying to, and they especially do not want Iran with that high profile as the genuine revolutionary Jacobin sponsor.
So they want Hezbollah out, and they want Hamas out.
But their attitude is this:
they tell us we want them out,
but
Israel
is giving us bad publicity.
So, what we're going to do is the following.
To quell our violence in the streets and keep our authenticity among our masses that can't vote, we're going to damn Israel every minute.
And by a certain association, you too, America.
Now, you're not supposed to pay any attention to that.
Just forget it.
But you tell the Jews in Israel to kill them.
Kill them all.
Because if we're going to take all this flack from our own people and we have to attack you to vent it, it has to be worth something.
And the price is that we're all paying is you've got to get rid of Hamas.
And it would be nice if you take out Iran and Hezbollah.
Okay.
There's two things they do not want to happen.
They do not want
to go through with the Abram Accords or to do anything that shows they're less than hostile to the West if the United States is weak.
So they don't want to crawl out on a limb and have us saw it out.
They don't want any more Iraq wars or Afghanistan debacles.
What they want is
they want it all their way.
And what they want is we don't want the Russians in here.
We've dealt with them before in the Cold War.
We do not want the Chinese.
We want you.
Because for all our anti-Western rhetoric and all our hate America, we understand that you are the most transparent and fair of all the superpowers.
And you have the power.
You'll keep the sea lanes open.
And when we boycott you or we have embargoes, you won't attack us.
And you could blow us out of the sky in two seconds.
We understand that.
Out of the water, out of the land, everything.
So, we want you to be superpowers, but we don't want you to intervene with these optional wars, Libya.
And we don't want you to do that.
And when you destroy these radical crazies among us, don't rub it in.
Just do it reluctantly.
Do it at night.
Because
we can't control the population.
And you have to be sophisticated enough that when we attack you, you understand it's crocodile tears.
It's fake.
Now, that's a lot to ask of us, especially after 9-11.
But that's what their attitude is.
And they're not going to do anything with an oil embargo because,
or an oil cutback for very long, because this war in Ukraine will end.
And when it ends, Russian oil will be flowing like crazy to make up for all the losses and costs and debt they have.
And this administration won't be here forever.
And the next, if it's Haley, DeSantis, or Trump, they have one thing in common.
They'll open Keystone, they'll open Anwar, they'll start federal leasing, they'll frack, and we'll get way up on production.
But that's an optimistic outlook, Concern.
That's what they're talking about.
That's why they're afraid, because
they want to get their money now.
Because they understand that once
the United States is self-restraining their
production and Russia can't get to its markets fully, and when those two are unleashed,
I guess the first and second,
with Saudi Arabia, the top three exporters.
I think even now we're exporting 4 million barrels a day.
So
I don't take that too seriously.
I mean, what is Joe Biden doing about our reserve?
It seems to me the last time we were talking, it's almost empty.
Is that what the deal is?
Yeah,
I think he took two-thirds of it.
It was near the top.
And Trump bought it as soon as he heard it was $35
a barrel.
He went out and bought hundreds of millions of it.
Now it's going to be up to $100.
And I think he tried to,
as a show of sincerity, did he buy something like,
I don't know what it was.
It was something like several thousand barrels at a high price, but it's just a joke.
He took out a million barrels, a million and a half barrels a day.
Now it's too expensive to fill it back up.
No, he didn't want to do that.
Remember what his attitude was, everybody?
It was,
I hate this gooey, sticky, smelly, awful oil.
Therefore, we're not going to drill it at Anwar.
Therefore, we're not going to work with the Canadians that bring it in on Keystone.
We're not going to do the continental pipeline.
And we're not going to have new federal leases.
And we're going to cut back.
However,
when gas gets up to five or six a gallon like Stephen Chu and Obama wanted, I may lose the midterm.
So I'm going to go beg all of the illiberal regimes in the world, Venezuela, Iran, Russia, yes, and we did.
And would you please
pump this ugly,
stinky, gooey stuff that we have in abundance more than you do, but we, being morally superior, will not touch it.
So you do it and give it to us, and then we can say we're not doing it.
That was the attitude.
And they didn't like it.
And so
half of me looks at, I think half of our listeners look at what we've done overseas and we wonder why these countries treat us with disdain.
And it's because we're arrogant and ignorant at the same time with this administration.
We tell everybody what to do, but we're weak.
Or we lecture the Afghans on gender studies.
We put, I don't know, 700 million bucks over 20 years to make sure we have trans classes and stuff.
We get the pride flags flying, and then we're weak.
And we pull out, and all the people who bought into that crazy woke agenda and DEI will probably beheaded now in Kabul.
And
same thing with
the balloon.
It just goes over.
See, there's certain things that the world looks at.
I get emails from people all over the world, and
they're often just amazed.
They'll say things like,
Victor, the balloon, it just goes over every day.
And you can't stop it.
Even if it isn't a completely effective spy balloon, do you understand what it's telling the world?
What would you think?
China would do if you did this or Victor.
The border, what is going on?
You know these people are coming across.
You know they're illegal.
You know they're destroying the whole concept of legal immigration.
You know there's terrorists coming in.
Why?
Are you that inert, impotent?
You can't stop that?
Or they'll say,
you know that these people are felons.
They're looting these stores.
You can't put everything behind a cage.
Why can't you just arrest them and put them in jail?
Or they'll look at Los Angeles, all these camps with the feces everywhere and people fornicating, and they'll say,
can't you do anything with these people?
So they look at all of this, and it's like we all woke up from a night.
We went to sleep and we woke up and we looked around.
It's Alice through the looking glass.
It's an inverse world.
It doesn't make sense.
And we think it's all correctable very easily.
If you had a conservative president that had support in the Congress, he could stop all this in six weeks.
You think so?
Yes, yes, yes.
He could stop it in six weeks.
He could finish that wall in three months, maybe two months.
And he could build, he could have a Marshall Plan.
He could have people building it on all different, both sides in the middle.
Each county does their
20 miles, 30 miles.
He could just round up anybody who cannot prove they're a U.S.
citizen that came, deport them.
You deport a million people and nobody will want to come in here.
No.
Yeah.
Of course.
And he could take, he could have a federal task force that says, you know what?
Anybody selling all this stuff,
they're hijacking cars or they're breaking in, smashing grab, they're selling Gucci across state lines, puts it on the internet, it's a federal offense.
And they could clamp down.
And then if they had the house, they could bring in people in the bureaucracy and really the DOJ and start charging them with crimes that they're guilty.
You get the Biden Biden family and you start charging them with what they did, and people wouldn't do that anymore.
It would really help to clean up politics.
When you have the President of the United States thinks he can
get money without tax consequences by just having on the bottom of the payout loan repayment with no documentation there ever existed a loan, then that's pretty cynical when he's barnstorming the country and telling everybody the rich have to pay their fair share.
Yeah, it sure is.
Well, Victor, thank you for all your wisdom wisdom today.
We're at the end of the show.
I'd like to thank your listeners, too.
We really appreciate your comments and
you as our audience.
So thanks a lot.
Yes, and I was ranting today, but I think it was a mixture of watching the debate and hearing the depressing news of the elections in Virginia and Ohio and Kentucky.
and then looking at Joe Biden and Blinken
completely reneging reneging on their ragadascio of the early October 7th to 10th and now just trying to sell Israel out.
And then looking at all of these protests and thinking,
where is our deliverance?
Who shall come and save us?
Is there a man?
We don't want to say we want a man on a horse to ride in, but somebody has to, where's our William to come to Sherman?
Where's our George S.
Patton?
Where is
Teddy Roosevelt?
Where are these people?
And they're not here anymore.
Where's our Winston Churchill?
Somebody could come in and look at that.
And somebody out there is like, Victor, Victor, Victor, things have been much more
serious.
Churchill came in.
All of Europe and the EU was in Nazi hands.
The United States was isolationist.
The Soviet Union was collaborationist, supplying the wherewithal to bomb London during the Blitz, and he was alone.
Britain was broke.
Half their imports were being sunk by U-boats.
And what did he do?
We will fight on the beaches.
What do I have to say?
Victory.
Victory.
Victory at all cost.
So.
Oh, and his blood, sweat, and tears.
Blood, sweat, and tears.
The whole thing.
I mean,
just by the, we just need someone like that.
And
not somebody like Joe Biden and the the people around him.
These are small minds, you know.
And now
they're like a one-eyed jack, and you turn the card and you see the other side.
And you start to look at that Corinne Jean-Pierre.
And
boy,
when they ask her about the anti-Semitism epidemic, and she scrunches her eyes and gets angry and says,
we're not aware of that.
And then she goes right into Islamophobia.
You can just see where her values are.
And when you see these, when Joe Biden, when he does that grimace and he yells and screams, rocks all, you know what he's going to do.
And
then the other thing is,
I'll just finish tonight because I'm ranting, but I must have got five to six emails each day from Israelis.
And it's like, Professor Hansen, why do people hate us?
Don't they understand?
Can't you guys tell everybody what happened?
And I'll write back, and then they'll write back more.
But they know what they did.
And do you know that my cousin hired five workers in a caboose?
Do you know that
we allowed the energy?
Do you know that our desalinization plant provides water for the West Palestinians?
Do you know?
Do you know?
Do you know?
Yes, yes, I know.
And I write back, do you know know
what these people are capable of?
It's sad.
And everybody wants to be liked for good deeds, but the Israelis will never be liked.
Not because they're not good people, but they're excellent people.
Because the neighborhood in which they live, they have people who hate them for their success and hate and are envious of their wealth and freedom and security and prosperity.
And
they don't have a good envy where they want to emulate it and rival them.
And so they're a destructive death cult.
That's what Hamas is.
And the Israelis, it's very hard for a sophisticated society to say, you mean that for the next 30 years we're going to have to treat these people as if they're
pre-civilizational?
And whenever they reach out and say, well, we want a two-state solution, now we're going to be nice and we're going to respect, they're not being truthful.
Yes.
Yes.
You can never trust them.
again.
Never.
And that's a hard thing to accept.
You're going to be in a permanent garrison deterrent state.
But when I saw that Gaza wall firsthand, I thought, oh my God, I thought this thing was like the Great Wall of China or something.
And it wasn't.
It was chain links.
I thought I thought, oh, my God.
Please, please build a bigger wall.
And when I heard about the guest workers, I thought, oh, my God, make sure that you take their cell phones so when they come to work, they're not photographing and calling everybody back.
Please do that.
Then you talk to an Israeli and they say, you know, the Abrams.
I said, don't think, don't mention the Abrams Accord, Abraham Accord.
Don't mention the, just mention the fact that you've got to have an M16 at every teenager's side for the rest of their lives.
Yeah, every trained teenager's side, right?
Want to be sure they can use it well.
And we heard a lot of about stories about that, to speak of good stories.
I think one of them we heard a husband and wife put their kids into their safe room, and they were facing seven Hamas
murderers, and they took out five of them before.
How about those generals that were in their 60s?
I think there were three of them.
They heard the first thing they did, they heard, they got calls from family members.
They got in their car with like a pistol.
And I don't know why every Israeli was not issued an M16.
I saw the other day that the Biden administration doesn't want to sell them any because they're afraid they'll get into quote-unquote settlers' hands on the West Bank.
But we should give them a mass shipment of automatic weapons.
And they should be like the Swiss.
Yeah.
And we should be too.
But it's kind of like, you know, just to finish, it's kind of like I walk around at night on the farm.
And in the morning, I try to, before
dawn a lot, and it's dark.
And
I see trash thrown.
I see cars parked.
I see people I don't know that don't speak English, and I have the feeling, well, why don't it just, it's just mellow, it's just people.
Well, nine of ten of them are, but the tenth, you don't know who, whether he is a murderer from Oaxaca, or he is a cartel member from Mishokan, or he is,
you know, a rapist.
You don't know.
And anybody who comes on your property without permission has broken the law.
And anybody who you see dumping trash, and I saw a car and they had trash bags in it, and he said he was looking to buy a bicycle out in the middle of an orchard.
Or, you know, I'm walking very fast.
I turn the corner, and all of a sudden I see Mr.
Refrigerator and Mr.
Dryer meeting me.
I thought, what kind of person will just go to another person's property, look around at night, and throw a refrigerator into your orchard?
And so,
does that mean
I shouldn't be vigilant?
No, I'm vigilant all the time.
I expect the worst every time because that's the only way you can live out here.
And although I will finish this,
I was kind of feeling full of myself, and we had an Israeli guest, and he came.
He's a wonderful person.
I won't mention who he was, but
I wanted to show him my arsenal.
And it was my grandfather's 1896 Springfield shotgun, and there was the Winchester double barrel, barrel, and there was the old 30 ought 6 bold action single shot, and there was a, actually, there was a percussion rifle from Flintlock, post-Flintlock era, and there was a 22,
22.
He said, guns?
Guns?
These aren't guns.
Where are your automatic weapons, Victor?
Where is your pistols?
Where is your Glock?
These are just hunting instruments.
Yes, these are just instruments for play.
You think you're going to hold off anybody with these antiques?
And I said, well, I have a double-barrel shotgun.
Where are your bullets?
Are they under the...
So you get two shots only?
And then you look around at night when you're half asleep, your glasses off, fumbling around for two, what, eight-shot, bird-shot, shotgun shells.
Where is your automatic shotgun with nine shots with buckshot?
You know, right at your bed, load it.
And he really made a point.
So
that was very funny.
Oh, I hope you've corrected that situation since then.
When you get to be 70, you think, I've got to do this.
I've got to make a better will.
I've got to finally get my concealed weapons permit.
I've got to start relearning how to shoot a pistol.
I haven't done that in years.
And then you think, well, I've got to write this.
I've got to do that.
And you're older.
And you think, no, there's not that much time to do the right thing.
But I'm going to try
on
December 1st, I'm going to stop speaking and traveling for two months.
60 days, I'm going to take care of business finally.
I'll be waiting to have loyal listeners give me advice about firearms.
What types of guns to have.
Yes.
Victor of the Sig Sauer is not as much.
That's what I love about letters from listeners, man.
Yeah, they're right.
Oh, man, they're like geniuses.
You know, because you can say that I can talk on a lot of subjects like thin deep, but not like these guys can in detail.
Because I get...
You mentioned the Odyssey the other day, Victor.
And did you notice what happened in book 16?
Lines 250 to.
You mentioned a tractor, and I think you were a little hazy on the difference between the 9-in lift and the 8-in lift.
Let me just tell you what the story is there.
And that's what's so perfect.
That's why I do these podcasts.
It's like going back to school.
Yeah, it sure is.
Well, thank you very much, Victor, and thanks to our listeners.
And this is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis-Anson, and we're signing off.
Thank you for listening, everybody.