From Top-Down Anti-Semitism to City Mayors' Pleas to Close the Border
Listen to Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Jack Fowler discuss the anti-Semitism found in the Democratic Party and universities, colleges with a classic inductive curriculum, corporations find woke can mean broke, the evidence demonstrating Islamophobia not as bad a anti-Semitism, and pleas by city mayors who need Biden to stop the flow of illegals.
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This is the Victor Davis-Hanson Show.
I'm Jack Fowler.
We are recording on Saturday, November 4th, a few days before Election Day, where there will be important elections in Virginia and Kentucky, things that I guess Victor will be harbingers of what might be ahead in 2024.
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Victor Davis Hansen is the star and namesake of this show.
He is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.
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We'll talk about that towards the end of the show.
Victor, I think there's a lot of matters anti-Semitic roiling and percolating in America on campuses, law firms, and
in Congress.
And we'll get to AOC vilifying one of America's most prestigious and respected Jewish lobbying organizations.
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Victor, the headline from John,
I never get it right.
I've said this many times before here, John Hendraker.
That's how I'm going to say it from Powerline.
And of course,
regular listeners know Powerline is a place where you go first thing in the morning, Victor, to get some analyses of various things.
The guys, Scott Johnson and he and Steve Hayward, just so damn bright.
They're very good.
They're very good, all of them.
I like all of them.
I know them a little bit, but they're all very analytical.
Right.
Very,
if there's one institution,
we got a website that punches way above its weight, its power line.
But John has a piece from last week.
AOC goes DEF CON 10 on APAC.
So,
you know, APAC is the
American Israeli, American Israeli Public Affairs Committee.
And it would be on this more conservative versus BCB other.
Yeah.
It's not hard right-wing, as she implied, is what you're saying.
Well, I think, frankly, I would consider it more liberal than
anything, but
it's not overtly anything.
And again, there are Jewish members of Congress who happen to be Republican, et cetera, and
they do try to act bipartisan.
But we have a new Democratic Party, Victor.
It's not your mom and dad.
It's not the Democratic Party your mom belonged to, and AOC and others are ascendant.
And here's what she tweeted the other day:
AIPAC endorsed scores of January 6th insurrectionists.
They are no friends to American democracy.
They are one of the more racist and bigoted PACs in Congress as well, who disproportionately target members of color.
They are an extremist organization that destabilizes U.S.
democracy.
Victor,
I think even two years ago, three years ago, if a member of Congress had said this about APAC, their caucus would have just vilified them instantly.
We're in a new world now.
But Victor, your thoughts about what she has done and your thoughts about the roilings and some people calling it the civil war within the Democratic caucus over Israel and anti-Semitism?
Well, for our listeners, just to frame everything out,
there was ample evidence that the DEI diversity, equity, and inclusion movement or the woke movement or the rainbow coalition or the marginalized, whatever we want to call this group of
people
on the activist elite that said that they were collectively victims as
and that they were victimized by victimizers who were just collectively white.
Okay, everybody knew that.
And that had Jack, that had a long history.
There was Al Sharpton in your part of the woods, Freddie's Fashion Mart, I think it was called.
Then we had Jaime Town.
We had the picture of Obama.
Remember him with Farrakhan that they suppressed?
We had Obama
with a video with Rashid Khalidi that the LA Times suppressed.
We had, now we have the BLM
glider poster.
We have these professors.
African-American professor, a lecturer, or excuse me, at Stanford separating Jews from his his class.
African-American professor at Cornell said he was exhilarated by the killing.
A lot of people from the Middle East voicing the same thing.
Okay.
So those things are fused now, Jack.
The DEI movement, and we don't want to talk about it because according to this critical race theory, how can victims be victimizers?
But when you look at who is committing hate crimes and who are disproportionately the victims?
It's not,
you know, it's not your crazy guy from, you know, the Ozarks or the plains of Montana, disproportionately.
Disproportionately, it is people of color, primarily African Americans who are over twice their numbers in the general population as committing hate crimes.
And the one group, second, I think, targeted group after Asians, are Jews at 2.5% of the population.
And they're, as Christopher Ray said, 60%,
I don't know if it's that high, 55%
of the victims.
And now everybody knows that.
And so when you get these AOC and the squad, and
one member of the squad has a map with no Israel.
The other one says it's the Benjamin's baby.
The other Rashid goes out and she's at the Capitol calling.
A nanosecond after the news that Jews are butchered, she's talking about genocide on the part of Jews.
So everybody knows that.
And it's nobody wants to talk about it.
But if you want to stop the engine of anti-Semitism in 1950, everybody said it's rural white people who are very, I don't know, clan-ish, they support.
There wasn't very many of them, but that was where it was.
Have you saw Gentleman's Agreement movie?
With Gregory Peck?
Yeah.
It was either the elite still stalking Republican golf course that was kind of a soft bigotry or it was the hard one.
And I grew up with it.
I did not meet a Jewish person, I think, until I was 18 that I was aware of.
I know my mom had Jewish friends, but I didn't know they were Jewish until I went to UC Santa Cruz.
But I heard about Jews from kids at school that were involved in
their families were in the packing business or the fruit business or the brokerage.
And they'd always say, well, a farmer doesn't get anything because a bunch of Jews on the East Coast control everything.
And I never knew what that meant.
But that was where anti-Semitism was.
It's not now.
It is a monopoly on the left and in particular, the DEI marginalized people industry.
And one of the most nefarious things that's happened is the radical Palestinian or just the Palestinian movement have fused their cause with the DEI cause.
And so when you want to look for anti-Semitism, Jack, you go to the squad.
First place you go.
And then
you can go to professors.
Now, we have an Iranian-American professor, Jack, at Oberlin, who was out and out calling for basically the destruction of Israel.
And guess what, Jack?
He is the former Iranian ambassador to the United States, and he's on the faculty of Oberlin.
That's almost like you're putting a gun to your head and say, please, I'm a Westerner, blow my brains out.
It's crazy.
And so I don't know how that, that's what's going to be very hard to eliminate anti-Semitism, because when you say to the university,
do you think that there's oppression or there's bias or there's systemic, yes, yes, we have a whole DEI industry for that.
We've got this czar and that czar.
But then if you come back to them and say, but you're the people that are doing it, you people the czars the dei people they are the anti-semites
you know who's going to police the police as juvenile said so they don't i don't think it's going to be very hard to get rid of it's not out here in rural california i see a lot of poor second or third generation
uh
whose grandparents came out to oklahoma I see a lot of Hispanic working people.
I don't hear a lot of anti-Semitism.
If you want to find anti-Semitism in the San Joaquin Valley, you go to a university and you will see it.
And it will be from the DEI people, from the elite.
It's a top-down DEI monopoly on it.
And that's saying that.
I think it's also reached bottom and bottom being in the political power structure.
you know there's democratic parties at town levels and local levels and these have been taken over
many places.
They've been taken over by radicals.
They're not your tip-o-neal Democrats anymore who run the local parties.
These guys, the old-timers, are being ousted and there are real radicals taking over.
So, what we see now with AOC and company, I think, is my opinion, is okay, they're loud, and there is still a significantly, they're a small percentage of the congressional Democrats, but I think in two or three cycles they will be well.
And they're angry right now because they felt that they were the tip of the Democratic spear, that they were telling Schumer, Pelosi,
what to do.
I come Jeffries.
And now they feel that all of a sudden that Biden is mildly bipartisan.
I think he's not done enough for Israel, but he's surely not done enough for them that they're furious.
We are the Democratic Party of the future.
Why can't we be anti-Semitic?
That's basically their message.
It's really strange what's going on.
I get a snail mail to my home residence maybe for a week.
Got one yesterday.
You unlock it, Jack.
It's the same thing.
I don't even have to open it.
There's no return address, or there's a phony one.
I think this one was something like news agency.
You open it up
and, hey, Vic,
get some info on Israel, next page, Israel, Jews, that kind of stuff.
And then people have written me, why do you put angry readers on your website?
Every one of them now, the FFU,
the pornographic language, the scare quotes, the capital letters,
the bad grammar, the subtext of it is Israel.
and Jews.
It is.
And they're coming from the left.
And that's what's really strange.
And even some people in the left
are, as you said, they're unapologetic about it.
I don't think they feel when you see from the river to the sea, and then you see Talaib saying, well, it doesn't mean that.
What does it mean then?
If you're going to get rid of Israel, I guess she's saying, Jack, well, we just mean to get rid of Israel.
And we just mean that we don't want to kill all the Jews.
They can live under Hamas when we take it over,
like they do in Gaza, I suppose.
What does she think?
That was, it's so strange because
that radical Palestinian movement and radical Islamic movement in general on every checklist of the left, trans, Czech, gays, Czech, blacks, Czech
freedom of speech, Czech, freedom of religion, Czech, atheism, Agni, every one of them, it is anti-left-wing.
Every one of them, at least doctrinaire.
It only has one commonality with the DEI.
It believes in authoritarianism and that any means necessary are justified by their noble means.
That's the only commonality.
And yet these crazy, useful idiots on campus cheer that stuff on.
Right.
It's
trying to set, I guess, you know, in military history terms, it's prepping the battlefield.
That's what it's all about.
It's trying to lower the bar of what's acceptable so that you get so much of it, you just get, they think everybody's going to get in a fetal position, put your hands over your head, knees to chest, and say, make it go all, make it all go away.
Okay, I won't support Israel anymore.
I'll just say on the one hand, on the other.
Both sides, cycle of violence.
That's not what you want.
And just leave me alone.
That's what they're trying to do on campus.
I think it works on campus because because these clueless students that are not from the Middle East or not from the DEI industry go along with it and they just want to be accepted, or they think that's the prevailing orthodoxy and it's better in a cost-benefit analysis to join it than oppose it.
Well, Victor, it's interesting.
You, I don't think I sent this to you prior to the show, but
speaking about what's going on on campus,
an opinion piece on CNN from
Professor Columbia Shai
Davidai, D-A-V-I-D-A-I.
I'm a Jewish Columbia professor, Columbia University of New York City.
I wouldn't allow my children to go here.
And he writes,
He's terribly stricken personally, but of course,
shouldn't we all be by the atrocities that happened October 7th?
Having spent over 13 years building a close-knit community of like-minded liberals, I suddenly find myself abandoned, abandoned by the resounding silence of friends and neighbors who refuse to publicly denounce Hamas's evil crimes against humanity, abandoned by the chant from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, code words for the eradication of
Jews living in Israel, abandoned by Columbia University, my very own lawyer, which in the name of fostering different points of view has allowed such expressions to take place, etc.
Two things, Victor.
I guess we've talked a little about in the past about, take Jay Bucheria, different issue, has to do with COVID, but the overnight abandoning of colleagues by even supposed good friends is
something I think I find kind of surprising, but I think it's de rigueur on campuses.
Yeah, it is.
And you know what the funny thing is?
It's the systemic lying on the part of university administrators.
They say,
well, you know,
we have a real problem here.
On the one hand, we have Islamophobia.
On the other hand, we have anti-Semitism.
And we just want to stop the hate on both sides and cycle of violence.
So
we have a committee investigative.
That's what they say.
But
go back about a month or two before this invasion.
If you're a student at Stanford University and you...
pull down and tear down a Black Lives Matter poster and they put,
they're going to expel you, believe me.
If you're a student at Harvard three months ago and you get out with a bullhorn on the free speech area and you say, satanic is trans,
gay, they're going to suspend you.
They will.
And if you don't believe me, look what happened to Joshua Katz.
He wrote an article that suggested that the tactics used by storming a dean's office or an administrator's office, strong-armed tactics by a a bunch of black students, was, he used the word terrorism.
And it was, in the sense that they were trying to disrupt the normal flow of business through physical presence, I guess you could say almost implied violence, to get a political message across, endorsed.
And what did they do?
They went through his entire career.
They went through everything to try to destroy him.
And they finally took away his tenure on a trumped-up little minor matter that they went after.
And so this idea that they have to accept anti-Semitism because they have a long record of tolerance of on pop is not true.
They have a long record of
appeasing and mollifying really radical speech.
And they have a long record that if you challenge that, if you challenge BLM, or the trans movement or even the new Green Deal, you're not going to have free speech rights on a campus.
But now,
if you challenge the anti-Semitism, they're going to tell you, well, we believe in free speech.
We don't agree with these people.
But unfortunately, we have a climate of tolerance.
So if a person tears down a poster or
he gets up and he says that, you know, that from the river to the sea.
And, well, you know, that's what we do in this campus.
We invite differing opinions.
They don't.
And so that's the biggest lie they promulgate it gets me so angry when you get some you can write those uh memos now you don't need ai to write them any dean provost president when he's under pressure she's under pressure of all the nuts coming out of the woodwork and there's a lot of them to voice their anti-semitic you can see they wait and wait and wait and wait and wait put their finger in the air and they go when will this pass do i have to write this please let me let this is let it go
And then when they can't and some donor calls up and said, I'm giving you a million bucks or 10 million.
I'm not giving you a damn cent anymore.
Then they say, okay, give me the boilerplate out.
What did Harvard write?
What did Yale write?
Where is the master copy?
And then they tweak it.
And it's come to our attention that we have a climate of hatred on campus.
And we don't tolerate Yale to fill in the blank, Stanford, Harvard, Princeton.
We do not tolerate climates of hate.
And we support
all free speech.
However, we will not tolerate, neither Islamophobia and there's our anti-Semitism.
That's what they do.
And they don't mean it because it doesn't have any real
once in a while, they put these guys on leave, like the professor at
Cornell that said he was exhilarated on news of the atrocities,
and are the DEI person at Stanford that hijacked Judge Duncan's lecture.
And then they kind of disappear.
And I give them credit.
They don't fire them, but they go into purgatory.
And then they kind of go, they drift off to another.
They get either a big buyout or retirement or a recommendation, or they call up one of their friends in another university, said, hire this person or something.
Right.
You know, those scoundrels that, you mentioned Oberlin before, but the
Oberlin
administrators, several of them who were involved in that
attack on the bakery in town, this happened.
They tried to destroy that family.
And then when that family won a multi-million dollar settlement, they tried to welch out on it and not pay it, sued again.
And they kept losing in court.
And one of the principals died from the stress, an older person,
tried to ruin that family.
And all they were trying to do is say,
We really like the campus community.
We bend over backward to serve it.
But if you come into our store and you steal things, we have to have
the rule of law.
And they arrested people who the university said were inordinately people of color.
Therefore, they were racist.
Therefore, there was a boycott.
Therefore, they were smeared, slandered, not just by students, by people with a PhD.
I think.
Who all ended up with new gigs in other institutions?
That was the point.
They land on their feet somewhere else.
Even when you're in the city.
I live in an area where there's not a lot of PhDs out in the middle of nowhere, much less from these type of schools.
But before this happened, I was very apologetic.
You know what I mean?
Hey, Victor, did you go to Stanford?
Well, don't talk about it.
And now it's going to be de regurg, Jack.
Did you see that little thing on the internet?
Don't blame me that I went to Harvard.
But I mean, really, if you have a PhD,
you're not going to get the benefit of the doubt that you got it when it was merucratic years ago.
In my case, nearly 45,
almost a half a century ago.
But it's not going to be something that people want to talk about.
Oh, I have a PhD from Harvard.
Oh, I have a PhD from Stanton.
No, because these people have ruined it.
And you don't want to associate with that university.
You really don't.
And
what they do, I mean,
what did Jay Bacharia, I keep mispronouncing Jay's name, and Scott, what was their big felony?
We've talked about this so many.
Was it being anti-Semitic?
Was it calling for the death of a whole people?
No.
It was trying to help the United States focus their limited resources on the elderly who were vulnerable and not young people who were not.
And for that, they destroyed their reputations.
So when they say they foster a climate of tolerance and free exchange of ideas, and unfortunately, people take advantage of that who are anti-Semitic don't believe them.
They don't foster that.
They go after people and try to destroy any heterodox opinion that they oppose.
Yeah.
Hey, Victor, now the shoe, and maybe we should call it the white shoe, is maybe on the other foot.
So there are some
efforts in law firms, white shoe law firms, to take note of what's happening on on these campuses and in these law schools and push back.
And we need to get your thoughts on this, Victor, and some other related matters right after these important messages.
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Victor, yeah, the
white shoe law firms are now telling the prestigious law schools that they won't hire anti-Semites.
And I know you talked about this with Sammy, like just one example.
What's the most prestigious law school, Harvard, the editor of the Harvard Law Review, there was caught on video harassing and hounding a Jewish student.
So
this is what
I was a former
Stanford student as an undergraduate.
This is what our law schools are producing.
And
I think what they produce, they produce the constitutional law expert Barack Obama, who doesn't understand the Constitution.
He tried to run through a treaty on the Iran deal without bypassing the Senate.
He was our constitutional law professor, and he was Harvard Review.
He was a Harvard Review editor himself, although he was
just like this guy.
Just like this guy.
So
when we hear these prestigious billets now, they don't mean anything.
People are selected not on character, not on GPA, not on any of that.
It's DEI or who you know.
And I'm not, I'm trying to be fair on this, but there is an old boy,
old boy, generational white establishment that uses pull to get their kids into these.
And they are matched or trumped now by the DEI people.
But they have one thing in common.
They're not meruced.
They're not merucratic.
And so those are the people who form the elite of these places.
And so when you see this happen,
don't be surprised that Stanford law schools say to Judge Duncan, we'd like to rape your daughters.
We hope your daughters are raped.
Don't be surprised.
That is systematically prevalent, that attitude of crudity and cruelty on these places.
And they're not meruced as far.
If you want to get
a good lawyer in these firms, it would be much better to go to somewhere like Iowa, University of Iowa, and University of Nebraska, something like that.
They would get somebody who's better trained and is more stable and has common sense.
And,
you know, Victor,
I hate to say, I'm glad these
law firms are
doing this.
I think they signed some number of the prestigious firms, Cromwell and Sullivan, et cetera.
These firms signed some joint letter about this
plan to not hire
anyone caught in these
situations, anti-Semites.
Okay, they're not going to hire them.
But it took this slaughter of
Jews and the reaction to do this.
But
like the companies that poured money into
Black Lives Matter as some kind of insurance policy
after the George Floyd writes, like the philanthropists, many of them conservative or not liberal who have funded these institutions over the years that the fact and even this professor who i mentioned before who i'm thinking i'm glad he wrote this piece for cnn uh uh shay davad dabadai at columbia but
you know the
is it really are we really surprised that we i i have that feeling all the time jack when people say oh my god and you're thinking
Well, the last 10 years, they had it right in your face what they were.
Everybody knew they were anti-Semitic.
Ben Shapiro spoke at Stanford, I don't know, six years ago.
And I walked across this campus, and here were these posters that showed something like a raid
aerosol can.
Ben be gone, Ben be gone,
you know, like bug be gone, like he was an insect that needed to be gassed off campus, and they didn't do anything.
They just said, oh, this is not the type of things that we that Stanford doesn't stand for this.
But they did that.
and
nobody there were no consequences nobody got fired for that nobody there was no problem
and you know there was a rope on campus that everybody just about shut down the campus oh my god it's and it was what it was down i think near in the lake area and it was there for years it was the almost grown into the limb of the tree so it was not an active act, but the whole campus was galvanized for that, which if it had been accurate, fine, it should have been, but it wasn't.
It wasn't even proven.
But the posters were right in your face and they didn't do anything about it.
So everybody has to disabuse themselves that this university apparatus, these administrators that come out of these programs are themselves disinterested or people of character.
They're not.
They got to their position
by mouthing the necessary orthodox opinions, and they will continue to be advanced by doing that.
And one of the ways that you don't become assistant provost,
dean of humanities, president of Harvard is by saying
that you're not going to tolerate anti-Semitism and then discipline somebody in the DIA.
DEI industry are saying you cannot have on the campus a poster that calls for the genocide of a whole people.
If you do that, you're not going to make it.
And they know that.
And so these donors knew it.
It was just so egregious this time that nobody thought, well, I know these guys are anti-Semitic, but they wouldn't cheer on people who go in at a time of peace and a holiday in an early morning and step on babies' throats and brag about it or call their mom and say, hey, mom, I killed 10 Jews.
Allah Akbar.
That's what his parents said to this captured Hamas killer.
So that was a little bit too much, is what I'm saying.
And now everybody's saying, why give these universities money?
And, you know, we're so acculturated to this, Jack.
If you just, everybody just
for a moment blank out all the good things these universities did.
And they did a lot of good things.
And they educated a whole returning group of soldiers after World War II.
They gave us preeminence in finance, law, medicine, research,
math, science, engineering.
Yes.
But just think that away for a while and look at the last decade
and look at what they have been teaching when this new woke generation took hold of the university and got rid of the old liberal generation.
There was no conservatives, but they were liberal.
And they're gone.
And just look what they do and who they turn out.
And you will see that these kids that are coming out are A, ignorant.
They don't have much knowledge because the general education curriculum has been gutted and the grades have been inflated.
And the professors are advocates and not inductive thinkers.
And so then you have to ask yourself, is this worth the investment?
And the answer is no.
You can get a better.
You can go to Clovis Community College in the middle of California where we live, and you can get a better education than you can the first two years at Stanford.
That's just a fact.
And
that's what it is.
So they're just running on empty, to quote Jackson,
running on empty.
It just fumes.
And these degrees, they think,
well, I have a BA from Harvard and I've got a JD from Yale, and that's just the gold standard.
Well, it should be, but it's going to fade.
It's not going to be worth a lot.
It's going to be like driving in gremlin, you know what I mean, AMC, or it's going to be like saying,
wow,
I've got a very prestigious job in the world.
I'm the assistant CEO at Disney.
Oh, you are?
Well, I'm in charge of the Target marketing campaign.
Oh, you are, are you?
Well, I thought up the whole PR for Anheuser-Bullett.
Oh, you are, are you?
That's what it's going to get like.
It's going to be
These Ivy League, prestigious universities' stamp of approval will be like saying that you are a target person or a disney person or a bud light person
or you know adidas or you're a kane west ad executive something like that yeah
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So Victor, our friend, your friend, my great friend Dan Mahoney, who used to be, Dan taught for over 30 years at Assumption College in Worcester, Massachusetts.
and is an emeritus professor there.
But he, like many others,
complained or talked about clearly the decline in the intelligence
of the students coming into school and mixed, of course, with their activism, which was compensating for the ignorance.
Anyway, Dan taught, I think it was about two weeks ago, maybe it was last weekend.
Hillsdale has a graduate program at the Kirby Center in Washington.
And Dan was teaching.
course there.
I think he taught about 10 hours on Edmund Burke.
And we talk every day, Dan and I are great friends.
And he said, I, oh my gosh, these students, they all knew the subject matter.
They were smart.
And if this was what college students were still like, it would be a joy to teach.
So there are some colleges
know that, Victor, I taught there 20 years.
And it's very clear because you go into the bookstore and you look at all the courses.
that are being taught in the book orders.
And guess what, Jack?
There's not one class with a dash says studies.
It's not.
And when you look at the English literature courses, it's Shakespeare, it's Milton, but there's no critical race theory, critical legal theory books, clittle reader response, Foucault, none of that.
And,
you know, it's all nuts and bolts.
It's Anglo-Saxon, it's Old English, it's Chaucer, it's
that.
And that inundates the entire curriculum.
So then you have students, you know,
they take German, they take Latin, they take philosophy, they take history.
They, you know, they have a course on World War II, they have a course on the Civil War.
They know everything.
And they have a general culture that promotes honesty.
So there's no bike locks on campus.
Can you imagine Stanford University if you didn't?
I had a bike, I think, 12 years ago, and I didn't, I had a lock on it right in front of the Hoover, and it was gone the one time I rode it.
Gone.
And you think that anybody,
they don't lock, I had a bike.
When I ride there, I just leave the bike unlocked and go and get coffee that's never been taken.
So if they can do that, why can't these other universities do it?
Because it is a sin of commission and omission.
It's not just that they're indoctrinating students in courses that are worthless, but it's they're not teaching.
At the price of having those courses, you don't have others.
And people should ask themselves.
We had the chairman of the Joint Chief quoting chapter and verse
Ibrahim Kendi.
That guy took $50 million in BLM-associated money in that George Floyd aftermath and did nothing with it.
And that whole center at Boston University is a disaster.
And the people who were the architects of BLM are all absconded with all the money.
And they have nice homes and lifestyles, et cetera.
And that's what we promoted.
We had people on the Joint Chiefs,
the Chief of Naval Operations, the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, ranting and raving about white privilege and white hatred and whites.
And where did that all come from?
It came from that type of curriculum.
They were advocating that Kendi should be on that reading list.
At Hillsdale, they would tell you: read Thucydides,
and maybe you'll understand about the cycles of evolution in book three, and you won't have to read Professor Kendi.
But,
you know, there's only 400 or so that graduate every year.
It's a small college, and they're in deep demand.
It's kind of like what Harvard was in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
And employers want to get their hands on those students because they know they're better educated than the Ivy League and they have better character.
I mean, I'm stereotyping.
Yes.
Another thing that people don't talk about is
the Jewish population that has always been discriminated against
until the 60s and 70s, they had an informal quota because they had meritocratic admissions and then they kind of got caught that they had a Jewish quota.
I don't mean they had higher Jews as in the other quotas, but they just restricted them
In this repertory admissions where you
admit far less so-called white people than the 66, 7 to 70% of the population, and then you get rid of the SAT and comparative ranking of grading,
the Jewish population is disappearing from the Ivy League.
It really is.
And at least as it was once represented under bureaucratic admission standards.
And I don't know if that's calculated or not, but you're going to get a situation where you're going to get about 1 or 2 percent of the student body will be Jewish.
And I think, Jack, that is the subtext of all of these demonstrations.
That given our immigration policies, student visa policies, DEI policies,
even though Jews make up about 2.5% to 2.7% of the population, and the Muslim population is about 1.3%,
that's inverted at these campuses.
And I think you've got a lot more DI pro-Hamas people on campus than you do Jewish people that express solidarity.
And so the administration looks at the numbers
and the people who sympathize with it.
I don't know.
It gets depressing even thinking about all this because here we are in 2023 and we're kind of like in a dark age.
Everything is falling apart and it came very quickly, or did it come quickly?
I mean, we have no border.
You look at the Ukraine war, we were told, you know, the spring offensive would end the war.
On this broadcast, we said it wouldn't.
And then, you know, we lost deterrence.
Putin invaded, took advantage.
We had the Chinese balloon.
We have the war in Gaza.
We're $33 trillion in debt.
We owe $1.7 trillion.
We got president doesn't know where he is.
We got a vice president who does.
It's even scarier that she does know where she is.
And we have crime that is just exploding.
Our major cities are unlivable.
And I don't know whether it was just hijacked by the left very quickly or the rot was there and it just accelerated.
To use that now stereotype quote from the sun also rises, it was gradually, then suddenly.
Maybe it was COVID, maybe it was George Floyd, maybe it was
this Gaza War, war, but boy, that scab came off, and what was underneath it was pretty putrid.
I don't know how we get back.
I think just everybody, according to their station, has to speak up.
There's no time to, as we said, no time for the monastery of the mind.
You got to speak up.
John Adams did say, and some of the other founders that what they created was
could succeed, but required a virtuous people.
And we've mentioned before, you know, the lack of the sharp decline in, say, just religiosity.
I have a feeling, Victor, personal feeling, that that's a lot of backdrop to
this.
But yeah, it's a moment to stand up.
But it's also a moment,
Victor, let's just not attack what's happening on campus.
You mentioned Disney and Budweiser.
And I love that Ted Cruz the other day pointed out that Coca-Cola, which owns Sprite, the Sprite brands, that in 2020, like so many corporations,
Coca-Cola through Sprite
dumped a ton of money on Black Lives Matter, half a million bucks.
And now, given that BLM has
is overtly and has always been overtly pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas, anti-Israel, you know the
disgusting tweet by the Chicago BLM praising and promoting one of those Hamas paraglider murderers.
So Koch has scrubbed all evidence of its donations to BLM from its website.
And Senator Cruz noted this and has pointed out.
And I do, any comments on that from you, Victor, would be worthwhile.
But I do believe still
it would be important for conservative journalism to focus on some of these things.
Who were the corporate philanthropists of these madmen
that created things today?
It's not just Coca-Cola.
There are many of them.
I've talked to a lot of them personally.
And
I belong to a couple of organizations where I see them socially.
And it can get very depressing because
They want to avoid all controversy and they want to,
for these corporations that went with the woke movement, it was a calculated marketing decision.
Or I don't mean necessarily, I mean, because obviously it was a mistaken marketing decision because they ended up
with vastly reduced purchases in the case of Bud Light, to take one example.
Disney stock has really crashed.
But at the time, it was a business decision that it was the path of least resistance because they felt who should we offend more?
The pro-trans are the people who believe traditionally there are two biological sexes and men shouldn't compete who were born biologically male and women's sports.
And they just said, you know what?
These conservative people, these traditional Americans, are still 51% of the population, but they just crawl in their little homes and they don't.
They don't watch these TV.
They don't do this.
They don't do that.
And so we can just, and they just are complacent people.
They're polite.
They're nice.
But they don't boycott, they don't demonstrate.
And so we'll just offend them.
And that's the decision they made.
And then for the first time in their lives, these conservatives were a little dragon, and the dragon woke up and started scorching them.
And it's the same thing on these protests.
You know,
I'll be frank, and I'm not being trying to denigrate anybody, but when you look at these protests, and I've watched hundreds of hours of these things the last three weeks, literally just to prepare prepare for columns I'm writing.
Why is it, Jack, that when you see the Jewish students, they're not going over there and screaming and yelling about killing all of Hamas?
I know there's some people that probably have voiced that in Israel,
but on these campuses, the Jewish students are not doing that.
They're not.
They're not going around and trying to get in the face and tear things down.
Maybe at Stanford when they said Israel was in dust, maybe a Jewish student took down that poster.
I don't know.
But that was calling basically for genocide.
And why is it in the Middle East?
And I've talked with Sammy, is that when you look at these demonstrations, they're all male.
When you come to the United States, a lot of them are led by females.
And does anybody ever say to themselves, why in the United States do women from the Middle East have such
confidence in their free speech rights and yet in the Middle East that they cheer on, they would be silenced.
Do they ever make the connection?
This is a wonderful country that gives an immigrant or a visitor more constitutional freedoms than the country that they have left and which they are now promoting.
No, they never make that connection.
And so it's just,
when you want to know about the whole Middle East, you look at the type of demonstrations you see.
And when you want to see a hate placard that's calling for death and destruction and someone screaming or somebody tearing down the you go to the pro-hamasma, and you don't go to the pro-Israel because you don't find it to the same frequency.
And
you know, it's just the way it is, and you can't say that, you cannot say that, but you can problem was never into fada, it was always you know, traditional Catholics where we're looking where the obvious enemies of Western people are.
Well, you're literally true.
There's two articles out, and it says the real problem is that white, I think it was in in Ceylon,
that the white
MAGA person is more dangerous than
the Arab
Muslim-daesh, pro-Hamas, pro-ISIS terrorist.
And they just said that.
And then you have to just think away all this stuff.
You know, you think away of Fort Hood, you think away of all the other stuff.
And that's what we're told.
That was, I think Janet Napoletano said that during the Bush, the Obama administration, that returning vets from Iraq were the most dangerous people around.
And everybody knows what they're doing.
They're just,
it's politically correct to say a particular thing or it's a virtue signal.
I get so sick of
Corinne Jean-Pierre when she's asked.
about the epidemic of anti-Semitism.
She just,
but we are looking at Islamophobia.
Did you see Virtue signaling Kamala Harris yesterday talking about Islamophobia?
Islamophobia.
Yeah.
That's just about 150,000 votes in Michigan that's usually decided in the last two elections by 80, you know, 10 to 80,000 votes.
Is that what it was about?
I mean, it's just
believe that with all the stuff that's going on in classes and campuses on the streets, and that does anybody believe that anti-Semitism
is not going on and that Islamophobia is epidemic compared to anti-Semitism?
She knows that, but why would she say that other than just one or two states with Arab American population she's afraid of losing?
Is that what it is?
They do project, Victor.
I don't agree.
But why would you say that when there's no evidence for it?
I mean, I went on the FBI,
I think it was 2019, was the latest I could find on hate crimes.
Muslim Americans, Arab Americans, whatever rubric you use, are far, far down on the list of targeted hate victims compared to Jews, well before Gaza.
So statistically, there's no evidence.
Even Christopher Wray testified that.
Man of the left.
He got on the committee on television, the televised, he said.
As I said earlier, 60% of the victims, according to him,
a little over 2.5% of the population, he said that.
Why would the press secretary of the United States just ignore that data and that testimony of their own FBI director?
Unless, unless, unless.
And, you know,
I get all these letters and emails, and I'm going to print some of them more on the angry reader, even though some of the people who subscribe to Ultra say, Victor, why do you do this?
All it is is just pornography.
You know, they're just full of hate.
Why don't you print a letter where a person makes a rational argument?
Because there is none.
I don't get letters where someone says, Professor Hansen, here is why you're mistaken on Gaza.
Let's go back to the 1947, 56, 67.
They don't.
It's just F-U-U piece of, you crap.
I'd like to do that.
That's what you get.
And people need to be reminded of that.
There's no argument from these people.
It's just pure hatred.
It really is.
And, you know, what anti-Semitism is, isn't just
third-right crudity.
It's disparity.
It is, we're going to talk about the genocide, but we're not going to talk about defer.
That's
what aboutism.
We're going to talk about displaced people.
We're not going to talk about the 160,000 to 200,000 Greek Cypriots that were thrown out of their home in 1974 and are not in UN refugee camps.
They went and had nothing.
We're not going to talk about the Armenians that were driven out and still are driven out in Turkish language areas like Aberbajan.
So it's the asymmetry that this one particular country gets standards applied to it on matters of so-called refugees or displacement or collateral damage or anything.
And I've gone through it a lot with Sammy, Jack, all the things that go on in Ukraine, and I support Zelensky defending himself, but no one would ever apply United States pressures on Israel to Ukraine.
They would not.
They just say, you know what?
The Russians are just barbarians, and you've got to be disproportionate.
And if you need to take out that oil field or that highway or that bridge, don't worry about.
collateral damage.
It happens.
Just go.
And Mr.
Zelensky, if you're under pressure and you feel that you got to win this war, suspend elections
and declare martial law.
If Netanyahu did that, they're already tampering with him.
They're already trying to get rid of him in the Biden administration.
Can you imagine what they do if he did that?
Right.
Go ahead and shut down North America.
They'd stop every air shipment of weapons to Israel.
They wouldn't in seconds.
So it's that disparity, everybody, that is anti-Semitism, that you focus on one particular place and people and you apply standards that you don't to yourself,
you know, or anybody else.
If Netanyahu had said the following,
he's at a dinner, and he said, Oh, you guys over there, I don't want you to date my daughter.
If you do, it's called predator.
You won't know when it gets, takes you out.
I'm not joking.
What do you think they would say?
They'd go ballistic.
Who said that?
Barack Obama at the White House correspondence dinner.
He said just that.
He joked about predator assassinations on the Pakistani-Afghan border in reference to, I think it was the Jonas brothers he said, that might want to date his daughters.
Everybody laughed.
They thought that was great.
Let's just, you know, and then when they asked him, do you think we're killing collateral people when you blow up a truck or an area or a house?
Well, there's obviously civilians who are being killed who shouldn't be killed.
But we are going to kill the people who are trying to kill us.
Bravo, Obama.
Yeah, that's right.
If they're trying to kill you, you got to kill them.
And you can't be scientific all the time, even though you try to be.
And that's what the Israelis are trying to do.
And he weighed in yesterday, you know, to about criticizing Israel again.
Well, Victor,
you mentioned
Kamala Harris.
Maybe she was
maybe she slipped up because she was down at the border making sure everything was getting fixed there.
I thought she was working on the space program.
Well, she's so, she's spinning so many plates on sticks.
It's amazing.
That's an amazing woman.
Who do you think is the person in the White House that hates her?
Because obviously there's some guy there that says to Joe, Hey, you remember when that debate when she called you a racist?
And you go, yeah, I forgot about that.
Yeah, well, we're going to fix her.
We're going to make her borders are after 8 million people.
We're going to make her space czar.
We're going to make her AI.
We got to pick things that are either unsolvable or will embarrass her, the ignorance and paucity of information she possesses.
And they do.
That's the one success of the Biden administration.
It is embarrassing.
I actually am sympathetic with her supporters who say that they're picking on her because they are.
They're just giving her assignments that they know she'll fail at and quite publicly so.
Well, payback is a, as you can't say the word but victor we have to talk about the border and mayors
and and their pleas to the white house and joe biden's absence and we'll do all that get your thoughts on that right after this final important message
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So Victor, the mayors of
what city?
Chicago, New York, LA, Denver, Houston, went to the White House.
They're desperate for money because of the onslaught of
illegal immigrants in their cities, which they once upon a time praised.
But the costs related to this are staggering.
The criminality,
the social breakdown is monstrous.
Joe Biden, you need to do something.
Of course, I don't know that money is the solution because they want money to put people up, but something has to be done.
Well, they went to the White House.
And guess who wasn't there?
Joe Biden wasn't there.
I don't know where he was.
Maybe he was in a basement in Delaware.
But Victor, our big city mayors are breaking and they are getting
short shrift at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Your thoughts?
Well, they better be very careful because if they...
are too vocal, they'll end up with an Eric Adams investigation about campaign financing.
Amazing, wasn't it?
Yeah, I mean, he was really blasting the Biden administration, and they basically said to him, okay,
we're going to investigate how you raise money, maybe from foreign sources.
And that shut him up very quickly.
And the same thing with Menendez, who was, I think, culpable,
all sorts of stuff.
But when he was on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in a very, I think he was chairman for a while, and he was a little bit skeptical of the Shia crescent theory of Middle East politics.
The next thing he knew, he was indicted.
And
not that he shouldn't be indicted, but this administration, the people that are running it at least, they have weaponized every avenue of government.
So
if you're going to object to an open border and you're a mayor and you were a sanctuary city and you were on the team and they all were,
The whole theory of sanctuary cities was that you were going to get one or two people every year that you could put on TV and the mayor could put his arm around and say, We
celebrate diversity and we want America.
The Lazarus inscription, give us your tired and poor.
And that's who we are.
And
we're not like these people down in Texas or Arizona or along the border in California or New Mexico.
We're not like those people.
And then,
well, I don't know why they're angry.
There's, you know, five million that are flooded, but these are
not, these are Hispanic people, but they're not the kind of Hispanic people that we know to object about poor people coming up that are refugees.
And then suddenly they start to appear in northern and these people, largely white and elite, they go crazy.
We didn't mean this.
Sanctuary Cities was a virtue signal.
It was a performance art act.
It was me alleving the guilt that I live in a very, very exclusive white neighborhood with similar types of professionals that are level.
We have signs on our lawn that say racism has no place in this home, or this is who we are.
We support Ukraine, that kind of stuff.
But you're not supposed to, you know, around the corner at the park, you're not supposed to bring in people from Oaxaca or Chiapas that are sleeping out there.
And you're not going to put downtown one of our hotels that really old bed and breakfast and put 25 people from El Salvador in it.
Now, that's too much.
And so we're going to call our representatives.
Kind of like the people in Oakland, you know, that
found out that people are getting killed by smash and grab, looting, carjacking, Soros, the district attorney, and all of a sudden they march on city council and said,
you're not enforcing the law.
Well, yeah, because she's a left-winger that's actually
putting
rhetoric to reality and they don't like it.
They do not like it.
People who were very affluent, leisured, successful leftist people always meant that that rhetoric was supposed to be abstract or if it was concrete, it was to apply to other people.
And these mayors, Jack, are really angry because suddenly this illegal immigration that they winked and nodded at and thought was sort of a boutique issue has come home and it's breaking their budgets
and it's bringing all the stuff that crazy Donald Trump remember the first thing Donald Trump said he came down that escalator I was driving actually on the freeway of San Francisco and he said and then we're going to deal with them I'm just paraphrasing but and Mexico's not giving their best people to us and they're you remember and then at the end he had that little qualifier and I'm sure there's some good people but they just cut that out and
now
All these people are, I mean, they're, it's if they're Donald Trump in 2015.
It's so weird that they don't think that immigration, that you allow people to come without diversity, without meritocracy, without legality, without education, without English,
is so great because you can't audit the people who come in.
And once that's known, a lot of people who shouldn't come in do for that very reason.
They either have a criminal background or they're engaged in criminal activities or they have no propensity that they want to work.
Not all of them, as Trump said.
Some of them are very hardworking.
But if you can't audit, you have no idea who is who.
And there's another thing that they don't talk about.
The mayors were trying to hint that.
Think of the mindset.
If you come in
and you deliberately, the first choice you make is to break the law when you know you're breaking the law.
And the second one is to break the law by residing.
That starts a pattern of behavior.
I can remember when I first went overseas in 1973,
and unfortunately there was a
dictatorship in Greece, but you had to get a resident permit after three months, right?
And everybody dreaded it.
You had to go down to this office and get like 50 different stamps on your passport and a resident thing.
And then when you went to get your package, you had to go through it.
But there was always one or two people, Americans, who just said, screw that, I'm not going to do that.
And they were there illegally.
And then, when they left the country, they just raised high hell because if you didn't have the particular stamp, you couldn't get out of the country without a fine.
And I was always thinking about that.
I thought, these two people are always
doing something, and they just thought the laws didn't apply to them.
And now they want all of us to be worried that they can't get out of the country because they didn't get their resident permit, student permit
established or lengthened or renewed.
And so there is a pattern there that if you know what the rules are and you deliberately break them and you're not in dire threat of dying, so you're not an extremist, and these people are not,
then
you're attracting people who have a propensity to break the law.
And you're not attracting people who are in Mexico, who go to the U.S.
Embassy and apply for a green card legally.
We don't want those people.
We want the people who break the law because they cut in front of the line.
Well, Victor, we're about out of
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And it's from Peter.
And he's commenting about a podcast from
the past week.
And he writes, Dr.
Hansen, your comments are always insightful and thought-provoking, but today you hit home like never before.
Your comments about family, community, religion, and other buffers to keep our constitutional republic and free market successes in perspective and to remain humble and vigilant are incredibly important.
For a moment, I thought I was listening to a reading of the Odyssey.
I feel like I'm in the Odyssey, don't you, sometimes that you're trying to get home?
And every time I walk open the door, there's a Cyclops or a Lotus Eater or Scylla Charybdis or Calypso Calypso or Circe.
I can't get home.
I guess home is somewhere that I grew up, and I'm in the same physical place, but
it's all different now.
It's not just because of aging, and it's not because I'm some white romantic, as the left says, you're just dreaming of an old white supreme.
No, no, I'm talking about a world that when I grew up, there were very few white people.
There were Greeks, and Armenians, and Sikhs, and Mexicans.
It was all diverse, but I, but the difference of what I'm talking about are their values.
Right.
Everything about it, Victor, even like
comedy, you know, we look at, we think back some of these sitcoms from our, and then think, like, oh, that was funny, but wait a minute, you have to ever tried to do cheers today,
for example, just to pick cheers out of the and you're not even talking.
Jack Vinny was funnier with his look than these comedians are with their foul mouths.
Well, yeah, but you cannot
even down Don Rickles, who was foul mouthed, was brilliantly funny.
And so was a lot of those guys in the 60s, Mark Saul.
But if you made a joke on a TV show about someone being fat, you'd be persecuted today for doing that.
It's no sitcom today.
Not to pick on fatness, but anyway, it's just everything about.
once upon a time, which doesn't seem so long ago, as you're right.
I'm just picking up on your point, is
we want some normalcy, return to some normalcy, arrive where
our journey, Victor and half.
Didn't a Ulysses dog greet him?
Argos, yeah.
Well, he died.
He recognized him and then he went back.
They put him on a dung pile, poor little dog,
a copros pile, they called it.
I'm just remembering now from the Odyssey.
I used to teach it
in Greek.
He died with a little whelp when he recognized his master, but his coat was all matted and he was ill-kept by the
Antinous and the other suitors, Eurymachus, I think his his name was.
And they were,
that was a good, that was a brilliant scene in book 22 of the Odyssey, the suitors.
They're kind of like our generation of people.
They came in and ate the wherewithal of Penelope's house, like our generation came in and took over what was given to us and consumed it and never
reinvested.
So we ran up the debt, the deficits.
trashed the infrastructure, we destroyed the universities, but we hadn't, we're suitors that are inhabiting something that we didn't own or build.
It's easy to destroy.
All right, my friend.
Thanks.
You've shared
a boatload of wisdom here today.
Thanks for all that for our listeners.
Thank you just for that for listening.
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