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Victor, I know you've talked with Sammy.

You've had some excellent podcasts covering what's happening between Israel and Hamas.

And you've talked about Joe Biden's speech to the nation in part.

Victor, I'd like to focus on one part of the speech, and I just want to quote a very short paragraph from Noah Rothman's critique in National Review, which he said the president used this speech to attack Americans.

And

here's one little bit of what he wrote.

The president might have limited his remarks to this stirring call to action, but he did not.

Instead, the president veered wildly into a neurotic digression in which he dwelled on the hatreds that supposedly consume Americans in times of trouble, a mindless barbarism that afflicts the American soul, which Biden scorned from his Olympian remove.

That remove might have been a basement, by the way.

But so, Victor, yeah, Joe Biden used this speech to take a whiz on Americans.

Your thoughts?

Well, I, you know, I have the utmost

admiration for Rhett Yum, but I was really disappointed in his post-speech quick take analysis on it because

he praised it as the best speech.

I don't know if it was the praise or not, Jack.

He said it was the best speech of Biden's presidency since they're all awful.

I don't know if that's ironic.

Yeah, but I thought it was terrible because

these

people have killed

30 Americans in Israel when they went into Israel.

They've got at least 10 hostages.

There's another 12 missing.

And he can't talk about one ultimatum to them.

Listen, Hamas, you kill any Americans and you're going to regret it.

And he could do a lot of things.

He could say to Hamas,

if you kill one American, we are going to cut all aid.

There's not going to be any more money.

And we're going to go in and we're going to punish the people who did it.

In does not mean on the ground necessarily.

And

then he could say, we are expelling everybody from the Middle East.

It's here on a student visa or green card.

We do not want people that we can't authenticate are different from you.

And he could do a lot of things, but he didn't do any of them.

He didn't show any empathy

other than You know, I was thinking if he would just,

he doesn't care about hostages unless it's to help someone.

So

he thinks maybe because they have hostages, we can give them $100 million.

Or because Iran has five hostages, we can give them $1.2 billion

per hostage.

So I don't understand it.

And then,

you know, there is a difference between why is he linking Ukraine and, I mean, I support defending the Ukrainians from the Russians, but this asymmetry, he lumps them together.

And I want to think, my gosh,

you have two sets of rules.

You tell the Ukrainians to be disproportionate, and we're going to give you the weapons so you're better than Russia, and you can kill more of them, and they're killing you.

You tell the Israelis have to be proportionate.

You tell.

Mitch McConnell, I don't know if you saw it, he supports this also.

Yes, I know it.

And then, in addition to that,

we tell Netanyahu, you need a coalition government, you need this, and this.

And Zelensky declares martial law and suspends elections.

He's pictures everywhere on a liberal campus.

And then,

you know, they have to reply to the Russians.

The Russians are deliberately targeting civilian targets.

So when they reply, they take out a bridge, they take out a road, there's civilians that are dead.

And no, Biden never says, nor do the campuses ever say to the Ukrainians, that is tantamount to what the Russians are doing.

Don't do it.

We want you to phone in advance like the Israelis do.

They don't do any of that.

And

they say, I've been writing four or five columns.

You know, don't laugh at Vladimir Putin's insane threats.

He may mean them.

And they all say, oh, he's just blustered.

Well, he has 65 to 7,000 nuclear weapons.

But Iran?

Oh, he might have the bomb.

Let's not antagonize it.

And Russia hasn't killed any Americans.

Iran's appendages have.

Hamas has.

And I don't understand it.

I really don't.

I mean, they have two sets of standards, and he wants to lump these together because he knows that they're not symmetrical at all.

And, you know,

we are in a real bad situation, Jack, because we have lined up China,

Russia, Iran, North Korea, and basically Ghatar, Ghatar, and Turkey, and they have an anti-American alliance.

And China, of course, is the big player, as I said.

And we just, we can't think of how we can break those people up, or we can't,

I don't know what we're doing.

And in the case of Israel, it's counterintuitive.

If you want a war, a theater-wide war, then you would tell the Israelis, as we are, do not respond.

Do not respond.

Don't go into Gaza.

Don't perpetuate the cycle of violence, because that will make them look weak.

And that will bring in Hezbollah to get a little bit of the glory, Nepai, and Iran.

If you let the Israelis do what they need to do,

people in Hezbollah say, I do not want to end up like Gaza, and they will restore deterrence.

But

I'm afraid we're going to have a theater-wide war, because I think he's also parked these deadly deadly u.s carriers two of them are going to be there pretty soon

and they're big targets and i don't know if they have the wherewithal to stop a barrage of 10 000 nighttime rockets but if they did hit hit hit an american carrier would biden respond i don't know this is an administration that anthony blinken when he knew when he knew islamic jihad had likely hit the parking lot, asked

the embassies in the Middle East to lower their flags in commemoration or sympathy for the dead.

What message did that say?

Well, we know it's a lie and you know it's a lie and you know we know it's a lie.

So we're going to go through the ritual.

So you will like us and we'll give you another 100 million.

As I said with Sammy, when he said,

you know, it's the old saying, you got to shoot straight.

Okay, Joe, we get it.

If Islamic Jihad just had have done what you told them to do, shoot straight and killed some Jews in Tel Aviv, then you wouldn't have have had, you wouldn't have been snubbed, there wouldn't have been protest, and you didn't have to give the hundred million to we get that.

So it's everything about the speech was bad.

Everything

he keeps saying, we're going to, you know, if you're going to do this, don't do it.

If you're going to interfere, don't.

And he gives these threats and they're completely empty.

And he should just be quiet.

And then if they do something, react disproportionately.

And then they wouldn't know what he's going to do.

But they know what he's going to do, and they have contempt for him.

Victor, you mentioned China, and here's another headline.

This is from the Daily Express, and I think people have seen this if they check out the Drudge Report ever.

China deploys six warships over fears

Israel crisis could spark World War III,

deploying them to the Gulf area.

Is that why they're deploying them there?

Because they're afraid there might be a World War III.

Anyway,

there's also another headline, Victor, sticking on China.

Where the hell is this from the New York Post?

Yeah, China is stoking a new Cold War in the West.

Yes.

I think they're all related.

Your thoughts, my friend?

Well, I mean, they have 500 nuclear weapons, and Chi has already announced that in 10 years, he's going to match our 6,500 or something.

And

we're just asleep at the wheel.

We owe $33 trillion.

The U.S.

Naval Academy just announced that they're searching for a gender studies

diversity new professorship at the Naval Academy.

And

what can I say?

They're short 50,000 recruits.

We have no effective missile defense system over the United States.

This is, what, a half century after Reagan talked about, nearly a half century after

Star Wars, supposedly.

We haven't done anything.

So we are a big, fat, affluent, leisured society that thinks all he does is keep saying we're the most powerful, we're the most wealthy

civilization in history.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the next wealthiest in history and the next powerful, most powerful cannot hurt us, and they can.

So

I don't know what to say, but I'm really disappointed in him.

And I think a lot of people are going to needlessly die.

And

he just can't.

Well,

it's a forced multiplier in the sense that

he can't deliver a speech.

He can't finish a sentence.

He can't compose a paragraph.

He can't follow

the teleprompter.

And I always ask, I think everybody should put themselves in Joe Biden's place

or he in our place.

If I was doing this on this podcast, Jack, hey, Jack, what do you think about this?

And then all of a sudden, hey, and then

just being coherent, you would politely say, hey, Victor, a lot of the people who are listening find you incoherent and you're not qualified to do a podcast.

And if anybody's listening and you're a lawyer and you went in the courtroom and you did a Joe Biden or you're a doctor in the operating room.

So what I'm getting at is it turns out that the qualifications of the president of the United States are the most lax in our society.

Anybody can do it.

If he can do it, anybody can, because he has no idea where he is.

He was walking up the steps the other day and somebody asked him about the hostages.

Are you going to, what did he say?

They asked him,

are you going to let the, are you going to try to stop the Israelis from getting some hostages or something like that?

And he said, yes.

And they said, well, it was too distant.

He couldn't hear.

So

let's delay.

There was something about the

provider.

I thought I don't, that's a long, windy explanation.

I think

Yum was absolutely wrong.

Poorly delivered, poorly composed.

Islamophobia.

Can he tell me where the Islamophobia is in

Detroit?

They just killed a woman in Detroit.

It wasn't only a woman.

She was a rabbi.

She was a Jewish rabbi.

Is that a sign of Islamophobia?

And why doesn't he look at the hate statistics that the FBI compiles?

and see who perpetuates it and who's the most likely victim of it.

And I think he'd be surprised.

He should ask himself, are Jews attacking Arabs or Arabs attacking Jews?

And he should ask himself, let me just see.

And

when you have Israelis, Jewish sympathizers, and when they're outside

in a demonstration at Harvard or Yale, there's about three or four.

Are they saying

kill the Arabs, kill everybody in the Middle East?

Do they say Israel from the sea to

Jordan?

No, they don't.

And yet these rich, pampered

students and these DEI apparat,

they all sing, they chant, they yell, they scream, Palestine from the river to the sea, which is a euphemism to destroy Israel.

So it is asymmetrical, Jack.

It's asymmetrical.

And I don't look at Jewish publications and I read them.

I don't see hook-nosed Arabs with sneaky, you know, looking like Yasser Arafat doing something.

But when I look at the mainstream media, it's nothing but anti-Semitic tropes.

Our little fangirl,

Greta, remember her,

Thanberg, Thanberg, Thinberg.

Thinberg, yeah.

So what is she doing?

She's doing a picture with her friends, photo op.

And then she has a little octopus.

Did you see that in the background?

I did not.

No.

Yeah, the traditional Jewish octopus with its little, it was like a little toy, but it was there to tell everybody, I'm not only for Hamas, but I'm anti-Semitic because I've got a trope here where an octopus, an octopus with its tentacles that is

standard anti-Semitic.

Why should we be surprised by this in the streets by radicals when essentially it's anti-Semitism that's defined

this administration's or as we've talked about the culpability before, Victor, but the Kerry Obama roots of all this madness is really about Israel.

And you just have to boil it down.

What was the guy who had some degree of anti-Semitism?

What was the guy when Obama was running in 2008?

Was that Rashid Khalidi?

It was 2008, and the LA Times had a tape of Obama at a banquet honoring him, that professor.

And you remember that?

Yeah, that was

pro-radical Palestinians.

And then that was the first sign or one of the first signs how bankrupt the media had become over Obama.

I mean, they were just partisan and they wouldn't release it.

I think Roger Simon wrote something really good about it.

But

Obama started it.

And we've talked about it at NASIM, about his...

Shia crescent, creative tension, empower Hamas, Hezbollah, Lebanon, Assad, Iran.

Then the Sunnis and the Israelis would be a little bit more polite

to the United States.

You play one off against the other and ha ha ha.

That's an echo chamber that Ben Rhodes created.

And he bragged that the reporters that he spoon-fed the lies knew, quote, nothing.

And then we remember that,

what was that senator from Tennessee that it was a radical John

What's his name?

Trump, in a very mean way, called him Shorty or something.

He didn't run for re-election.

Oh, I forget.

Yeah.

So he was an anti-Trump person, but he was the head Republican on passing the Iran deal, even though it was a treaty and it required two-thirds ratification of the Senate.

Yeah, yeah.

Remember, he got two or three rhinos to go on to give him

so that they wouldn't bring it up in the Senate as a treaty.

Right.

They were virtue signaling.

They were working in a bipartisan manner for Barack Obama.

It was just pathetic.

And so they wanted that Iran deal.

And then even when Trump was president, John Zafir, the foreign minister, was meeting with Kerry in Paris, and he was meeting with him at the UN, and they were trying to nullify what Pompeo and McMaster and Trump were doing to get out of the Iran deal.

And

not, it was just.

It was just constant.

It was just constant.

And then they brought in Robert Malley.

Then he wasn't our Iran expert.

He was our Hamas

and ISIS expert.

And he gave us the empowered Hamas and he gave us as his legacy the ISIS that Donald Trump had to proverbially bomb the crap out of.

So they were pro, pro, pro.

They weren't neutral.

They weren't just anti-Israeli.

They were pro-Hamas, pro-

radical Palestinians, pro-Iran.

Valerie Jarrett,

they were always writing puff pieces about Valerie Jarrett was very sensitive to Iranian issues.

Her parents were professionals and they were in Iran for a while where she grew up.

She has some knowledge of Farsi.

It was just,

it was, I don't, I don't get it.

I really do not get why they want to give them right now, release the South Korean sanctioned relief money of 6 billion.

I don't get it.

I don't.

When they're taking hostages and you pay 1.2 billion for hostage, why would you do that?

That $6 billion is going to go flood the Middle East with weapons.

More rock.

Well,

what do they think?

I get it.

They hate Jews.

Is that

they do hate Jews?

They hate Jews.

And they keep saying that anti-Semitism is some poor white guy in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada or the Appalachians or the Ozarks.

It's mad about the Jews and the money.

It's not.

There may be some people, but that's a century old.

Anti-Semitism is a sophisticated hatred that is endemic among the academic class, the Middle East intellectual refugee, quote-unquote refugee or immigrant, the media.

And

it's really tragic to see all of these Jewish American big investors and very

charitable

philanthropic people who have given so generously to all these universities.

And then for the media people that are Jewish saying, oh my God,

what happened?

And, you know, you want to say to them, you can go out, go through history of the last 500 years in Europe.

And those are the exact same words.

Somebody said, what happened?

I knew my neighbors.

I knew the government.

I can't believe this is happening in Hungary.

I can't believe this is happening in Germany.

I don't know what's going on.

Well, what's going on is when when somebody tells you that their charter is to eliminate Israel, you should believe them.

And when somebody gets out in the Harvard Yard or out in the Yale Quad or in the Stanford free speech area and says, from the river to the sea, then don't give any money to them because that's what they mean.

They really do.

And it's brilliant.

It's absolutely Machiavellian brilliant in a very sick way how Hamas

and and the West Bank people have grafted their agenda onto the DEI woke monstrosity.

It really is.

They feel that they're non-white, non-Christian, non-powerful, non-rich, that they are

the victim has done this to them, the victimizer, the oppressor has done this to them, the oppressed, the colonizer has done them to the colonized, and they go on campuses and

they just fuse together.

So then you have this idiot, idiotic, one-quarter educated, privileged white Asian elites.

And then you have the DEI community and then the Palestinian community.

And they all together have created this narrative

of apartheid.

And you ask them and you just ask them, well, would you rather be an

Arab citizen of Israel under quote unquote apartheid?

Or would you rather take your ring and your trans friends and your gay cousin and your scream out in the quad and yell profanities against your government and take that to Gaza or the West Bank and live there doing that?

Which would you prefer?

And I think if they knew, had one sense, they would much prefer being an Arab citizen in Israel.

than who and what they are here transplanted to the west bank or syria or egypt or iraq or Jordan.

But they don't.

Did you see the story about the rally in London with some like queers for Palestine

waving the

900-colored flag that is now the flag of the LGBT, et cetera?

And that quickly came down or was bullied down.

Quickly came down.

And

I don't get it.

I know that our listeners say, Victor, don't start that again, but I don't understand it because I walk across campus and I see people from the Middle East who are students and they have fled oppression and they are at some of the top universities in the world and they have generous support from this country.

And

they seem to hate this country and its foreign policy.

And you want to say, well, why did you come here?

And once you got here, why are you praising the systems that you fled?

I know, I saw this when I wrote about Mexicornia, but I knew that was an immigrant philosophy.

My grandfather had said to me, he didn't like hearing Swedes that praised how great it was in Sweden

because his father had been, everybody there knew that the poorest of the poor were farming rocks and it was freezing and all the wealthy people had the good land.

So they fled.

to Kingsburg, California, and it was paradise and they loved this country.

And then his father said, you're going to go to World War, you're maybe 27, but you're going to go to World War I

and go over there and fight.

And he was gassed and he burned out his lungs.

He was a disabled person and he loved this country.

And he imbued that with all of us.

And I don't understand.

I just don't understand somebody who leaves the West Bank, gets a student visa or a visiting professorship or a subsidized billet

and then they start.

I don't mind them them trying to say, I disagree with your policy, but I don't understand this shrill anti-Semitic stuff and this attack on the United States.

Wow, we could stop it in two seconds, Jack.

All we have to do is yank, just say, you know what?

We have to reassess our immigration.

If it's DeSantis or Trump or whoever the Republican president is, They need to follow Trump's example of immediate travel ban on nine or 10 countries that sponsor terrorism or allow it.

And then he needs to yank all the student visas from those countries, not issue anymore.

And I think you'd see a radical change.

I really do.

I think, Victor, and we need to take a break here, but when we come back,

This is probably too radical or broad a statement, but there seems to be a gratitude gene missing

culturally.

I don't say missing.

It's not as if there aren't people from the Middle East who aren't grateful, but there just does seem to be a pronounced lack of gratitude.

It's us, Jack.

It's us.

It's human nature.

When you

have no standards and you don't convey a love for your country and you don't ask an immigrant of anything.

I mean, you can go back and look at what I wrote in 2003 in Mexico when I had one of my best students who was illegal here.

And he was a classic student.

And I walked out and he was burning the American flag and a 180, Prop 187 demonstration.

And I walked right up to him.

I said, could you please tell me why you are burning an American flag of the country you're so desperately

trying to stay in?

And you're waving your friends a Mexican flag of the country under no circumstances you'll go back to.

Would you please please explain that?

And he couldn't.

And he came in later and he was very smart.

And he said, well, everybody was doing that.

I said, that's not enough.

I don't want to give you any more independent studies.

I don't have to.

I do that free.

And I've spent hundreds of hours in the last four years.

I'm not going to do it.

And he said, well, it's because I'm insecure.

I said, I can take that.

Okay.

Let's start talking about why you're insecure and why we will not have you insecure anymore.

So he was honest, this, but

you tell me.

Yeah.

I think it's just a cost-to-benefit analysis.

They look like the immigrant comes here and he says, okay, here's the demerits and here's the benefits.

And the benefits are if you immediately say you're oppressed and you're a leftist and you need health care and educational support and housing and food and legal counsel, all on the government dole,

then that side of the political spectrum will give you what you want and you become a loyal constituent.

And then you attack the United States as racist, da-da-da-da-da-da.

And you get features and then you get hired in the media if you're an elite or in government or university.

But boy, you come here and you're a conservative.

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You know, because I mentioned,

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well, I do, but if you are someone who gives money of any magnitude, from a dollar to a million dollars, and you feel

that you get more bang for the buck buck to giving to Harvard or Yale or Princeton or Oberlin or

UC Berkeley or Stanford, don't do it because that's like throwing gasoline on fire.

It really is.

And the deans and the provost and the presidents are the most accomplished liars we have in our society.

They will tell you that your money is not going here or not going there.

And they're going to honor donors.

They don't.

I've seen it for 45 years.

If you're going to give anything, give it to a Hillsdale College, because I've been there and I can tell you that their president, Larry Arne, and their development officer, John Servini, will not detour, deflect, use it for anything other than traditional American education, civic education and liberal arts education.

And if you say, well, I want to spread my, then give it to St.

Thomas Aquinas College.

It's one of the best colleges.

I've spoken there.

I'm not, they don't know me very well, if at all.

But when I went there and looked at that college and the bookstore and the curriculum, that's where you should give it is in addition to Hills.

Or if

you're saying, well, I live in LA, I want to,

Pepperdine School of Public Policy, that graduate program, Pete Peterson.

It's conservative.

It's traditional.

It will honor donor content.

And we have to hoover.

We will too.

And I guarantee we will.

But do not give it to these universities.

If you give it to these universities, it's going to be spent.

If you don't give any money and you just want to be informed, it's perfectly, all right, there's other things you can do.

You can support the next time we have a Republican Senate and House and president, you can say, right,

speak, campaign, organize and say, we have to tax the endowment income on these mega-billion endowments.

There's just too much money tax-free that we subsidize.

So when you see what's going on at Harvard,

or you see the UC Davis president

not doing one thing when a trans

Africa American studies professor says he, she wants people to go after Jewish children, follow them around, or you see a Stanford

By the way, Jack, why did Stanford hire the guru who indoctrinated Colin Kaepernick and turned him loose on students?

He's the one that put students in a corner if they were Jewish, separated their belongings from them.

And he's still not officially fired.

He's on leave.

But if you want that, then give to them.

But if you don't, give to these others or organize.

And you should have an agenda, should tax the endowment income on universities, and they would straighten out very quickly.

And you should also insist that any university that doesn't give students the Bill of Rights, the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendment, and they don't, will not get federal funds.

You should say, you know what?

Okay, you want to drop the AACT and the SAT so you can have your ethnic racial quotas.

We want a standardized exit test, just like the bar exam, because this bachelor's degree is worth nothing.

It's so watered down.

And for a college to be accredited, they have to participate in a standardized test, rudimentary, minimum, easy, maybe 500 on the SAT.

And you know what?

75% of these BAs would flunk it.

And they know that.

And there's a lot of things we can do.

And the final thing is to get the federal government out of the student loan, $1.9 trillion it is now.

You get the federal government out.

And then the moral hazard is where it should be.

And these universities will say, oh my God, we're going to pledge our $35 billion

against the billion dollars in loans we've issued to our own students.

Hey, we better get them out quick into

the workforce because it's in our interest.

They pay our loans back or we're liable for it.

And then somebody's going to say, well, to get them out, we need...

We need to get good courses so they're skilled, so they have writing and computational, analytical, inductive skills.

Well, to do that, we've got to get rid of Cartoon 101.

We've got to get rid of the drag shows.

We've got to get rid of Hamas, the Liberator class.

We've got to get rid of all that and just get back to basics.

And that would really help.

Victor, I'm glad that

the Huntsman family and Cliff Asness

and other philanthropists have taken this madness as an opportunity to say no more to UPenn or some of these Ivy League colleges.

But two things.

One is how

did it have to reach the level of of throat slitting murder for you to stop did you not know that you were essentially um bankrolling uh this this growing cultural madness along the way i mean again glad you're you're pulling the plug on it but uh so many people who are center right have has

given millions to under underwrite this you know why because you know why jack tell Tell me.

Because we have created

a false image that association with Jeffrey Epstein's Harvard

or

the Bankman Freed Stanford

is prestigious.

It isn't anymore.

They're not turning out students who can read and write.

They're not.

And they used to say, I had a very good friend who was one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the United States.

And he said to me one thing, I said, what do you think that's going on at Stanford and Berkeley?

Do you hire them?

And he said, yes, I do.

I said, why?

He said, well, they know nothing when they come out.

They just took four years and did nothing

except get indoctrinated, Victor.

But in high school, they worked really hard.

And so they have to take an SAT test.

And when they have a GPA, it's comparatively ranked by high school.

So my point is, I get people who have natural talent because the university did that work for me.

And then when they come into my corporation, I can train them.

And you said they have skills

they got in high school only because they wanted to get into Stanford or Berkeley.

But now that wouldn't apply because they have no SAT requirement.

They have no ACT requirement.

They don't rank comparatively a GPA from one high school to the next.

So they're not even doing that.

So there's no reason that they have any prestige.

And you can tell the classes are already eroding to a much greater degree than they were just pre-George Floyd.

And so we're going to see very quickly, Jack, I predicted that these Ivy League is not going to lose their sheen.

They're going to be

equivalent to a place that people are uneducated.

I mean, it's going to be worse than Cal Fresno.

Cal State Fresno will have a better reputation, although it's woke, than Stanford if it goes out, continues like this for the next 10 years.

So people give money on an ancient idea of prestige, but they don't realize that even that is not going to work for them.

And if they really want to help, they'll give to these other colleges that still maintain civic education, philosophy, art, language, math, science, history, disinterested, deductive,

excuse me, inductively taught.

But it's this idea that they go and say, you know, my family has been, we're alumni of Yale.

Can we have a Bob Smith professor of humanistic studies?

It sounds so great.

And then every once in a while, one of them will call me and say, one of these donors and say, Victor, I endowed the Bob Smith

humanistic study.

And they're teaching all this crap that Hamas is great.

And Israel is is an apartheid society and World War II is about three things only, the atomic bomb, the Japanese internment,

and racist fighting on Okinawa.

What are they doing?

I said, well, why did you give to them?

That's like giving heroin to an addict.

Don't give it to them.

Don't give it to them.

And then we as citizens have to do our part to tax their endowment.

And they won't have enough money to do all this and to make them guarantee their own student loans and to make a common

certifiable exit test, every BA in the nation.

And I swear to God, Jack, there will be people from Hillsdale that will have a 99% pass on an exit test.

And the current student body at Stanford will be 50% at best.

And that's just a fact.

Give to those universities and colleges

that are universities and colleges.

These are not university and colleges.

These are poorly disguised indoctrination centers.

But they don't even do that in a very good way.

To me, there's

an even larger issue if, okay, people, philanthropists can do it.

It's their money.

They can do whatever they want with it.

No one has a claim on it.

But

the

overwhelming preference to support

at a collegiate level and a dollar spent at the collegiate level to, let's let's just say, educate well,

is pretty late when the dollar was really needed at a second grade level or a third grade level.

And, but there's no, I don't think you get any naming rights if you, you know, you, you, you put that, you put your money where it's truly needed for American education.

And by the way, that's not in public schools, I don't think either.

But see, that's a good model you brought up because I think the don't, I don't think it's necessarily, I don't want to help K through 12,

but at least public I mean they do give to prep schools I know that yeah but when you look at K through 12 and you look at the teachers unions and the DEI influence on it people don't want anything to do with it and they think you know what any dime I give will be

didn't Mark Zuckerberg give like a hundred million dollars the Philadelphia was it Phil

no

Boston to Newark I think Newark yeah it was just a complete waste of money.

It was just like burning it up.

Teacher salaries was right.

Yeah, it's not going to go anywhere.

And there's

so everybody's given up on that.

And they're either homeschooling or they're going to parochial schools or private schools.

And that's going to continue until the public schools go bust.

And when they don't get the FTE, they will go bust

because they will.

Well, there is a growing

classical school movement.

Hillsdale has a significant effort in that area, Great Hearts.

Yes.

And the private, you know, there's a Catholic, I think, Chesterton School.

So there's lots of areas to Ralston College in Savannah, Georgia, is really promoting that type of outreach.

Yeah.

It's just started.

University of Austin will probably be doing the same thing.

So

there is a pushback, but

please don't give money to these players.

Not that I'm an advocate of anything or you should listen to me, but I've watched it my entire life i've had jack you know the number of people who called me it's got to be at least a hundred and they all say

what am i to do i gave this five million dollar gift i gave this two million dollar gift and i just can't believe what they're using it for and that they said they wouldn't do it

And, you know,

I'm sorry, Victor.

These people, you know, their emotions over getting a hickey at the homecoming game in 1971 So just kind of overwhelm their sense of due diligence on this.

I just say to them, the development officers or the academics are silver-tongued liars.

That's what they are.

You can't trust them.

Well,

just walk through the campus.

And I always say the same thing.

Just do three things.

Go to the free speech area of the quad and sit there for one hour and listen very carefully to what's said.

Number two, go to the bookstore, go to the bookstore and look at the book orders per class and see what they're doing.

And then three, get the catalog and look at the courses that are listed and you won't give them a dime.

And

it was very funny when what was even weirder about all this, Jack, is that after

the killing, the mutilating, the raping, and yes, the beheading.

Remember when we said there were people were being beheaded?

I got a lot of hate mail, Jack, that said, said, oh, you're repeating an IDF lie.

Now we have a pathologist that was

doing autopsies, and we have a group that's job was to collect body parts and collect them for burial in Israel.

And we have an independent media, and they all say that there are corpses that have been beheaded, beheaded.

And when you saw all of that,

remember one thing, the protest started before the IDF responded.

It started started

after two things.

This 1,400 people butchered

and 5,000 rockets in 48 hours were aimed at civilians.

And then they went out and said, yes, Hamas.

It wasn't Israeli responses that caused the counter-demonstration.

They were there before.

They were there for the nanosecond they heard the Jews were butchered.

you mentioned but god it was sick it was so sick it was like pre-modern pre-civilizational people go in there and they do that to people right mutilate them rape them break their pelvises during rape it was just horrible to read these pathology reports and hear them and then have people cheer that on

and then to see what she was

uh victor and um well there's tucker had a long

he had a long session on george floyd the other day but he wasn't.

If you disagree with Tucker, then just don't listen to what Tucker was editorializing.

But the reference he was making that we have more information about the autopsy report.

Well, yeah, true.

But I raised that because I was going to say, Douglas Murray has a column out.

I forget where.

It's probably in the New York Post, but making the point that

what if there were

not even protests, what if there were demonstrations in American cities after the death of George Floyd celebrating the death of George Floyd?

Yeah, and it would be, and we would use the term sick, deranged, pre-modern, medieval.

Yes, we would.

And

what would you have if you had a bunch of Jewish protesters in downtown Beverly Hills marching through the street and saying, Israel from the Mediterranean to Oman,

you know,

or

all of the Sinai, all of Gaza, all of the West Bank, Israel.

And

that would mean kill all of Palestinian.

But that's exactly what they were yelling the nanosecond after that attack.

And I don't understand either.

It's very strange, Jack, if you think about it very carefully.

This administration was willing to give $1.2 billion

for five people.

Are they willing to give $1.25

billion for the,

what is it?

Is it 12 cap, 10 captives that are still in the hands of Hamas?

Well, that was per person, right?

Yes, 1.2 per person.

Yes.

$6 billion total to Iran.

They were willing to release to them.

And they haven't, it's the weirdest thing in the world.

They haven't expressed an outrage that Hamas killed 30 American citizens and there's 15 or so missing, and there's still 10 captives, and they don't say a word.

They just say, We're working behind the scenes at this or this.

But that would be, you know, it's when they killed Marines in Lebanon, at least Reagan took the New Jersey and just took its 16, 8-inch guns and battered what they thought was the Becca Valley.

I don't know if it did any good, but at least they were outraged.

And

I don't know.

I don't get what's happened.

I do think that the campuses, I think everybody is starting to see that we used to think they were irrelevant hot house plants that barked at each other in the faculty lounge.

And they're more than that now.

They have so much money.

And we have such a sick value system that if you want to go to the State Department, you want to be a president of NBC, they look at your little resume and say, where did you get that business degree?

Where did you go to law school?

And they look at about 10 names.

Oh, that's okay.

She's good.

He's prestigious.

And it's not.

We've got to develop a culture that when you have those names and letters behind

your name, then you're suspect.

Suspect, yeah.

Well, Victor, I promised after the break, we were going to talk about your ultra piece.

And let's still stick to that as we round the turn head into the home stretch of this episode.

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Okay, Victor, the strain, you may have gone over some of this ground already.

I think you have.

But your ultra piece, the strange Middle Eastern hatred of its desire, part one, that assumes

there's a part two and could be part three and four.

What is this series going to be focusing on?

Well, remember after 9-11, it was revealed that all of these fundamental Islamicists from Saudi Arabia and the general area that came over here on the nights preceding their mass killing.

They went and gambled.

They went to porn shows.

They were,

I don't know, their appetites were ultra-Western.

So, what I'm getting at is that if we were the great Satan,

and that resonates throughout the Middle East, and Middle Easterners poll overwhelmingly that they prefer China and Russia to us, and you see

there's a lot of pro-Hamas signs that are starting to appear, pro-China, with pictures of Putin.

And I think people should keep that in mind.

You leftists that are pro-Ukraine and pro-Hamas, that Hamas now really loves Putin.

So keep that in mind.

But given all of that hostility toward the West in general and America, in particular, to a lesser degree, I suppose,

Europe, why do they want to come here?

And why do people from traditional societies

that

I guess

they lied, that are dictatorial, because I can't think of any indigenous democracy in the Middle East that was either not imposed or Israel.

It's either Israel or what we imposed in Iraq.

So

there must not be a ground support for a democracy.

You could argue in the early 20th or late 19th century, there were evil Europeans and Americans who wanted to deal with dictators.

But now

we're subsidizing pride flags in Kabul,

and we're subsidizing George Floyd posters, and we're subsidizing gender studies.

So, what I'm getting at is: why do people want to come from that part of the world

and from a strict Islamic creed that says

we will have a separation of women and men at the mosque.

We will stone

loose women or trans people or gays.

We abhor homosexuality, supposedly,

and

we feel that people in the West are not spiritual and they're decadent.

And then they want to come to the West.

I say that because of all these boats that are going from Islamic countries in North Africa or the Middle East to Europe

or Pakistanis coming to the United States.

I don't understand it.

Why would you want to go to the Great Satan?

And once here,

why would you want to indulge this culture that

you hate?

And why would you want to, under no circumstances,

leave?

Because I was going back the other day, Jack, and I looked at the press accounts of Donald Trump's travel ban.

You remember that?

He selected a number of countries, Somalia, the West Bank, Syria, that were sponsors of terrorism.

North Korea was one.

It wasn't aimed at Arabs or Muslims.

And I looked at, people were outraged at that, outraged.

And the subtext was.

Professor X was going to get a

scholarship to go to Harvard.

Professor Z was going to have a billet at this foundation.

Mr.

D was, they were all wanting to come here.

And that was so mean to say to them, we can't audit you, and we feel you contribute to divisiveness and hatred in American society, and we're not going to do it, subsidize your sojourn here.

And the subtext was, Jack,

and you should do the same to us.

And they did, some of them.

You, hey, Americans, you can't go to Gaza.

We're not going to let any of you into the West Bank.

You know what?

You do that to us, and you don't get to live in Damascus or Beirut.

And we're going to add another thing.

We're going to punish you and say you cannot visit Alexandria or Cairo.

And to make it really, really, really mean, you can't go to Yemen.

How's that?

And to make it really, really, really, really unfair, nobody gets to come into Iran.

And everybody would say, okay,

fair enough.

Square deal.

But instead, we play this, I don't know what you'd call it, where

we don't want to go to your country and you don't want to live in your country, but we want you to come to our country so you can tell us how awful we are and use all of our material wealth to satisfy your supposedly very

religious disciplines and

say things that would get you beheaded in your country, and you can say it here against us, and then you can praise the people who drove you out.

It makes no sense.

It doesn't.

That's what why is this strange desire to go to a country that you seem to hate

in the abstract when you're in another country?

And then when you get in here

in the material concrete, you seem to hate.

Because right now, AOC and all these people are demanding we take people.

Mr.

Bowman, who let off the fire alarm in the House of Representatives, they want people from Gaza to come here.

And as sure as the sun rises every morning, Jack, if anybody gets into Egypt from Gaza, they will apply for refugee status, number one, to come to the United States, no doubt about it.

And this administration will let them in.

And I don't understand why they would want to come and why you would not audit somebody.

And why would you put a computer programmer who's waiting for seven years to come legally

from Delhi,

from India, or

anywhere in

Asia, Africa, waiting for seven years with skills to come here?

And you're going to let a refugee from Gaza come ahead.

It's just crazy.

Yeah.

I wonder what would happen if you were an illegal immigrant in India.

What would happen if you were anything in these these countries

compared to what we do?

And this is, you know, this is all based on what Joe Biden really believes.

He's a dinosaur out of the 1950s.

He keeps saying this, we're the wealthiest.

We can do this.

We can do both.

No, you can't anymore.

You don't do both.

I'm also getting really tired of a lot of,

I don't know if they're rhinos or establishment Republicans, but they say, we can give 150 billion to Ukraine and we can support Israel and we can close the border.

And we, no, you don't do any of that.

You can't close the border.

At least you can't make them close the border.

And we're 33 trillion and counting that the debt just went up to one point deficit, 1.7 trillion.

And when you look at that sum, you say, historically, look at Rome, look at Greece.

Look at Renaissance, look at anybody with that type of debt.

And there's only three ways to get out of it.

You either renounce it or you inflate the currency or you confiscate private wealth.

There's no other way to get out of it.

Yeah.

Because, or you cut things to the bone and we're not going to do that.

And so

I don't understand this idea that we have unlimited wealth and unlimited resources.

And then when you read

the fine print, you learn that we're out of javelins, we're short on artillery shells, we're having trouble supplying iron dome missiles.

Our Navy is at one of the lowest number of ships in half century or more.

China's on the upswing.

And we're hiring a

DEI gender studies professor at the military academies.

That's the message.

And if anybody says that's wrong, oh, you're just a right-wing Trump supporter.

Oh, you're just, you're just a racist.

And they don't want to discuss it.

You can't.

And that's, it's very tragic.

Right.

And frightening.

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Victor, thanks for all the wisdom.

I just wanted to say one last thing, Jack, before we end your show.

There was this exchange.

Did you see it between Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley over the Gaussian refugees?

That DeSantis said he didn't want to let in any Gaussian refugees because they were anti-Semitic.

And then Haley did.

And then she kind of backtracked, and they went back and forth.

But

when that

exchange took place, The Conrad Eidenhauer Foundation in Germany was interested on,

being German.

They were interested in the fumes of anti-Semitism given their history.

So they did surveys and analyses and polls, et cetera, and they found that their

citizens, residents from the Middle East polled,

answered.

queries four times more likely to be anti-Semitic than German citizens.

So

there you have it.

Four times more likely than Germans to be anti-Semitic.

And they were very worried about it.

I'm sorry, the people who were four times more likely were Palestinians or who?

No, they were just people from Muslim countries.

Oh, Muslim countries.

Oh, okay.

Given, you know, Germany has a lot of people from the Middle East.

It has a lot of people,

Turkey, especially Kurds.

It has everybody.

And it's just generic that if you want

open your doors to refugees from the Middle East, from Islamic countries, you better be very careful and try to audit and certify that they're not coming here with the ingrained hatred that they have been born into, that society.

It's not a matter of race or any culture.

It's indoctrination.

And you can really see it in all these communities.

They are really angry.

The

Muslim communities of Michigan are angry at Joe Biden for not being hard enough on Israel.

And I couldn't quite believe that, but he's, you know, he's weak on Israel, and they feel that he's too strong.

So, and they, and Talib is really saying that Joe Biden's going to pay.

Anyway, that's not true.

He may pay in that district.

But the troubling thing to me, Victor, and I didn't prepare this.

to talk about, but there is a Quinn PIAC poll out the other day, which shows

nearly across the board

strong support for Israel in the United States,

except young.

Yeah, exactly.

And that's because

if you go, if I walk,

if I took a bicycle and I rode through Presno County and I asked people, do you support Israel or Hamas?

I can guarantee you anybody under 25 and has any affiliation, even with a community college or college, will be pro-Hamas

because that's what you do.

And that's what gets you cred.

And that's part of the whole

DEI woke nostalgia.

Again, just to finish this broadcast, when one of the most biased, anti-Semitic, chauvinistic cultures grafted their agenda onto the DEI

once in America, then you had this weird, what they call intersectionality, right,

between trans,

gay, radical, feminist and fundamental Islam.

And that's what you got.

And how that happened, you can write books on it, but

it is.

And then there's another thing very quickly going on, Jack, and we'll finish.

When I said that before the Israelis replied, and only in that interval when we knew that Hamas had butchered, mutilated, raped, beheaded, desecrated Israelis somewhere between a thousand civilians and maybe more of the 1,400 total dead, and there was this sympathy,

this sympathy for Hamas, I was trying to think,

How did this happen?

Why are they so emboldened?

And then I saw that the narrative,

it was, and there's an op-ed today in the Wall Street Journal.

It's kind of on this, but

they really felt that they were allowed to do that because Israel made them do it.

So the more they behead and the more they rape.

and the more they shock the sensibilities of the civilized world, they think they're making the argument that you turned us into animals because only somebody who was a greater animal than we are could make us do this.

And it's kind of like the argument that the Germans and Hitler did at the end of 44 and 45.

If you start looking at primary documents of the National Socialist Party, and when they were kind of worried that their legacy would be as mass murderers, not worried that they didn't care, but they were worried that Germany might be stigmatized.

And so they went back into the death camps.

They were worried they were going to be executed, too, if they survived the war.

But you remember they started to bury the dead, excavate and exhume the dead.

And then try to hide that.

And

they were very worried

about all of this.

And they were trying to advance the same narrative.

The German Nazi elite were saying, you know,

We were only capable of this because the Jews made us into killers, because they were so bad.

And that's exactly what Hamas and that message is.

We can defend slitting people's throats and shooting them in the head and stomping on their face when they're dead because

Israel is a greater monster.

And that is one of the sickest arguments that I've ever heard.

But that's exactly, it has a parentage in Nazi Germany.

Yeah.

Anyway, with that happy note, everybody, we'll see you next time.

Well, thanks.

Sorry about that.

Thank you all for listening.

And yeah, we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis-Hansen Show.

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