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You know, normally, Victor,

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But I think it's important that it stays in right here because we are recording on Monday evening, July 31st, and we've got some snippets of news about Devin Archer's behind closed door.

testimony to Congress about his relations with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.

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So, I just want to mark that and note that.

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So, Victor,

two things today.

Let me just get

two sides of spin

about

Devin Archer's greatly anticipated testimony behind closed doors of the House Oversight Committee earlier in the day.

And I'm looking at a piece that Jim Garity and my former colleague at National Review filed.

And here's how it goes.

It says, relax, everyone.

This afternoon, CNN reports that a source familiar with the closed door interview of Devin Archer by the House Oversight Committee says that Archer's former business partner, Hunter Biden, was selling the quote-unquote illusion of access to his father, but not real access.

Representative Dan Goldman, a Democrat on the panel, told reporters that Archer told the committee that Hunter Biden, quote, did put his

father on speakerphone in the presence of business partners, but that business was never discussed.

So that's one side, one

immediate spin from the Democrats, Victor.

And now another story that's come out this Monday evening, and that's why I think it's important to note the date, is Miranda Devine, the great reporter from the New York Post, and she has a piece out.

Devin Archer, the headline, Devin Archer reveals exactly what Hunter was selling, Joe Biden.

And here's the beginning of her account.

Victor, it says, Devin Archer's testimony shows that Joe Biden lied to the American people time and again.

He lied that he knew nothing about his son Hunter Biden's international influence peddling scheme.

He lied that he never spoke to Hunter about his overseas deals.

What has leaked so far about Archer's closed-door testimony is that Hunter, once his best friend and business partner, put then Vice President Joe Biden on the speakerphone more than 20 times during meetings and invited him to dinners.

with overseas business associates.

The article goes on.

Victor, obviously we're going to hear more on Tuesday, August 1st, Wednesday the 2nd as more

people reveal what happened behind closed doors.

But Victor, this is the initial spin and the initial reporting.

I think Miranda Devine's a very trustworthy reporter.

I mean, damn, she broke the news about the laptop.

Victor, what are your thoughts on what we've heard so far?

Well, it's in closed sessions.

So we have this caricature of Representative Dan Goldman who comes out and he wants the American people to believe that

fraud is not as serious offense as influence peddling.

And by that, I mean he now has backed away and has all Democrats and has the Biden family that Joe Biden didn't know anything about

this business activity, but that

he was put on speakerphone, but it was just small talk.

And

Hunter exaggerated the presence of Joe.

And he deceived, basically, he's suggesting he deceived his multi-million dollar paying clients by suggesting that the mere presence of Joe

on a phone call would result in some type of quid pro quo.

But it didn't, but that was their problem.

In other words, they deliberately allowed Joe,

read between his lines, to assume a role that that he didn't play, which is to deliberately defraud people out of their money if they were paying for what is it effectively a de facto lobbyist, Joe Biden.

And so that was so ridiculous.

And

it,

you know, there's this huge rhinoceros in the living room, and that is, would Hunter Biden or Jim Biden or Ashley Biden or any of these Bidens have any money at all from Ukraine or or Romania or China if it wasn't for tapping into the vice presidency of Joe Biden and then subsequently tapping into the potentiality of Joe Biden president?

And the answer is no.

And so then the further second question that is begged is,

okay, they were paying money to this mediocrity Hunter Biden and his mediocre family on the pretense that they were going to get special treatment from Joe Biden.

And so when Joe Biden was no longer vice president,

they have, that's very important.

They have the salary that Verisma did, for one example, of Hunter.

And that's important for two reasons.

They halved him because they wouldn't have that direct conduit to the White House policy formation vis-a-vis Ukraine.

But secondly, they didn't cut it because they knew that Joe Biden was now a former vice president and may run for president.

So they wanted Hunter, basically, I guess we could use the term, they wanted the Biden family on retainer.

And that's what they did.

So everybody, what I'm saying by the rhinoceros in the room, everybody knows that this Grifter family had no talent, no expertise, nothing to sell.

It's like the painting.

Does anybody think that paint by numbers childish

mess would ever get a penny if it was at the Fresno County Fair?

No.

It was all predicated on the fact that if you buy Hunter Biden and you pay him off, or Jim Biden, then you're going to have them talk to Joe Biden.

And every once in a while, Joe's going to call just so you know that that connection is still there and he's going to do things for you, like what?

Like fire the prosecutor

in Ukraine, or turn a blind perhaps, as we see now with China.

And that's what they paid for.

That's what they got.

And it's just ridiculous.

Everybody knows it.

What the House members have to do, I think they do not want to jump to impeachment yet because they have to get the documentation.

And that means all of the IRS bank records.

Then they need to get a forensic accountant to go in there and to look at the type of lifestyle homes, appurtenances that the the Bidens got and match it with their reported income.

And I think that, and then trace where that money went, the aggregate 50 million.

They need to do that.

They need to subpoena all the internal communications between Weiss, Gar, all the DOJ, and they really need to find out.

what Christopher Wray knew about.

Christopher Wray, FBI is leaky now.

And, you know, oh, we didn't know about it.

Or if we had have known about the sweetheart deal with Hunter or if we had, but they're knee-deep in it.

So it's going to get worse and worse and worse and worse because everybody, it's just so, it's just such an open and shut case.

Joe Biden is a blowhard, a bullshitter, if I could use that vernacular.

Yeah, and everybody, a glad handler, a grifter, and these people made, you know, 50 million for an entire government.

It's not a lot

for these governments.

And they made a minimal investment in buying off the Biden family with the hope that every once in a while, Joe, they could call on Joe and he would step in, the big guy, Mr.

10%,

the guy sitting next to me right now, as I'm talking, to quote Hunter, and he would give them a bone or two.

And they did.

And, you know, Holman Jenkins, I raised that

article in the Wall Street Journal.

Yeah, yeah, the Wall Street Journal.

What did he say?

Yeah, and I wrote something about it today in American Greatness.

And there is evidence, if you look at our treatment of China or

this Ukraine stuff, that Joe is acting out of character, out of American character.

And that is any other American president, even Bill Clinton or Barack Obama, would have reacted to that balloon.

We've never had a president that just gave us 10 to 12 different narratives to excuse that spy balloon.

We've never had people in the federal government that lied under oath, and that's what Rand Paul is having a criminal referral to Dr.

Fauci.

And this whole establishment, which continued into the Biden administration, was amplified by it, that has no interest,

A, in the origins of the Wuhan virus, and B, is terrified, is terrified that somebody does have an interest is going to show that the American money that was secretly channeled through Echo Health to that lab, along with expertise, instruments, machinery, et cetera, that all of that conduit ultimately, existentially, was what made the COVID virus.

And if you just think about it, then there is one person,

Dr.

Fauci, and the people who have employed him and the people who empowered him that was in some ways an architect of the whole world pandemic.

Right.

And so,

I mean,

that's an incredible thing to say, but it's true.

It's true.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

So what I'm getting at is this whole administration

had soft gloves with China.

And I think that one of the reasons is that, like the corporate elite that are compromised with their investments, they are compromised too.

When you have a Michael Bloomberg running for a candidacy for presidency in 2020,

And he tells us that China is more or less a consensual society, and then you learn he has $10 billion in investments for Chinese communist-related companies for startup money, and he's investing in them.

Then it's.

If I can add to that, Victor, remember Ray Dalio, the head of Bridgewater Associates, the largest hedge fund out there.

Same thing.

Oh, essentially, they're...

They're good guys.

Yeah, it's terrible.

Hey, Victor, you mentioned a forensic accountant,

not only, I think, for

what we think now are obviously direct payments to Hunter and

Big Guy gets 10%,

but these other payments that still have been mentioned, but

to the University of Delaware

and Penn State, University of Penn State, wherever the hell, you know, constitutional scholar Joe Joe Biden taught, you know, he taught constitutional law, et cetera.

So I think there's many additional millions maybe to be to be

explored and examined.

And that's what money does, Jack.

When somebody gives you money for nothing, then

not to defer to them is considered ingratitude.

Right.

And so when the Chinese lavish money on Joe Biden gratuitously at the University of Delaware in Pennsylvania or wherever, then naturally good old Joe from Scranton is going to go soft on Chinese request or Chinese illicit activity.

That's the purpose.

It's not a formal contract.

It's just when you get into that cycle of corruption, then the person who is corrupted always excuses his corrupt racketeering behavior by saying, I'm not an ingrate.

These people help me, and therefore I am obligated to help them.

And they don't look at that as a business transaction, but that's what it is.

And that's what the Bidens were doing.

They had nothing to offer anybody, nothing,

no more.

He was just one of 100 senators, and he was not a very good senator.

I know he was ahead of the Foreign Relations Committee for a while, but he didn't have any expertise.

And yet he

did have one thing that apparently the Chinese or the Ukrainians or Romanians or other people knew.

He was willing to sell his office and his integrity for a price.

And all of those Bidens lived the life of the elite, the multi-million dollar elite, and there was no means of income to sustain that lifestyle other than the offices of Joe Biden.

That's that's all it was.

Yeah,

well, sell America out for a beach house in Delaware.

I mean,

it happens, it's happening, it's happened.

Um, one other thing about

the Biden, I mean, let's talk about Hunter for a second, Victor, and maybe you want to talk a little more about Fauci.

I don't know.

But Hunter news came out today about

the infamous court hearing from

last week.

And the judge questioned Hunter Biden for the special plea deal that blew up, or temporarily blew up.

Anyway, asked him if he,

was he seeing a doctor?

Was he seeing a psychiatrist?

Are you a member of the bar?

And he said, yes.

He said he was a member of the, I think, the D.C.

and the Connecticut bar.

And the fact is, he has been disbarred in Connecticut.

Now,

for not paying

his

fees.

But I have to believe, Victor, if you're a lawyer who practices, can legally practice in two states.

And

when you have the inability to practice in that state, whether for whatever reason you were disbarred for something criminal you did, or you just didn't pay up, you know that.

You know that.

So he, he,

the presumption here is he knowingly lied to the, to the judge at that hearing this past week.

Any

thoughts on that, Victor?

Well, that's what he does.

I mean, he's lied and said that his paintings,

that these amateurist paintings, he would not know or would they identify the buyer.

There was going to be a firewall between the Biden family and the buyer of this art.

That was ludicrous at face value.

Who would ever buy that stuff unless they were going to get some perk from it?

Now we know that somebody who paid, I guess, nearly $800,000 was appointed to a prestigious

commission and was a frequent visitor of the White House.

And that's what she paid for.

She didn't pay.

Art that she bought from Hunter is in a garbage bin somewhere right now, Jack.

That's not what she bought.

That was just like a dollar bill.

It was a means of currency.

So he was lying about that.

He was lying on national TV and the CBS when they asked him about the laptop.

And he said it could be.

He didn't really say, he didn't say it wasn't his.

He knew it was his, but he wanted to give the impression that it was not because he got Anthony Blinken and his dad did to call up these corrupt intelligence officials, particularly Mike Morrell, who should be ashamed of himself, former interim director of the CIA.

And what did he do?

He got 50 people to lie.

They all knew they lied.

This has all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation.

Anybody knew that.

So he's a chronic liar, Jack.

That's all he does.

And he's like most addicts.

He's a chronic liar, and they have a chronic inability to keep stuff.

They just abandon stuff.

They lose bags bags of cocaine.

They leave crack pipes in cars.

The Ashley, who had a drug problem, leaves a diary that's incriminating.

He can't know where his gun is, his illegally registered gun.

It ends up in a dumpster by

a school.

He loses maybe, apparently, two laptops with incriminating,

it's not the first time he lost one.

That's what addicts do.

And that's what Bidens do.

Bidens lie.

They have a culture of lying, all of of them.

And my word as a Biden is a synodic, it's just a synonym for I'm lying right now.

I guess, Victor, after 50 years, and they have accumulated wealth,

I think they think they could just

tough out anything or it's what.

It's not going to, the reach is not going to ever get to them, but maybe it's about to.

Yeah, I think that our listeners are saying, okay, Victor and Jack.

so how did they get away with it how come they got away with it and the answer is in general that he was a senator that the left protected because he was a leftist and i mean by that the leftist media so none of this was ever the object or concern of any new york times or new yorker or anything only to the degree if you remember um

carefully, only to the degree when Joe Biden ran against Barack Obama.

Then they went to town when Obiden said, this is the first clean and articulate black we've had.

But other than that, they gave him a complete pass and that fact was known to Joe Biden.

They found him useful, at least more useful than

the integrity of reporting what he was doing to his family in Ukraine.

And every once in a while, they would print some leak story that Barack Obama was concerned what the Bidens were doing.

But that was not to hurt Joe Biden.

That was just to show what what a magnanimous statesman Barack Obama was.

So, other than that, he got a complete pass.

There was no deterrence.

That's what created him.

And then the amount of money in a globalized economy.

I mean,

in 1980, Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union.

I mean, China didn't have any money then.

None of these players had.

Romania was an old Warsaw Pact.

But you,

you know, fast forward to 40, 50 years later in this this global economy, these

erstwhile impoverished states have a lot of money and they're using it.

They don't have any scruples of losing it.

And so the Bidens,

it was too much of a temptation.

And they always justify it.

You know, Joe was the old guy who was Amtrak Joe.

He was, he's just so frugal.

He has so little money.

He went from his meager little home that didn't say have a little fire.

It almost burned down.

He lied about that.

And he went all the way in the train.

No, he bought the DuPont mansion when he was a senator.

And he had money coming in as vice president while he was in office.

It says in the Constitution, high crimes and misdemeanors, but it's prefaced by two crimes, treason and bribery.

And that's what he was engaged in.

Just a question of strategically, to what degree do the House

Republicans with a very thin margin with an upcoming campaign cycle with no control of the Senate or the presidency, to what degree do they pursue an impeachment writ and what would it mean politically?

And I think Kevin McCarthy's pretty wise, and he's trying to get all of his eggs in one basket, line them up, because you can't just impeach him on a vote like the Democrats did with Trump without evidence.

I think there's a lot of evidence, but they've got to get it all written down.

They've got to get the memo.

They've got to get the data.

They've got to get all the depositions from the oligarchs.

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They've got to get the whistleblowers.

They've got to get bank records compile and then impeach them and then go after the people that either hid that information or colluded with the Biden family so it wouldn't see the light of day.

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Hey, Victor, you know, before we go on to Ron DeSantis's 10-point plan that he released today, I think it's kind of interesting.

Do you have anything more to say about Fauci, or maybe about just the tenacity of

Senator Paul going after him?

I mean,

he is

gunning for him.

And

I think he's a hero because

this guy's finger.

This is the guy that let this

happen, who paid for it.

Well, I mean,

I went back and looked at those exchanges.

I mean,

Paul said it, Rand Paul said at the time, Dr.

Fauci, you're under oath.

And what you just said is that there's no gain of function research going on that's subsidized by the United States government.

He said, that's not true.

And there's experts, and everybody knows it's not true.

And everybody knows that the genetic sequence of that virus is not found in nature before a human was infected.

And so he lied about that.

And we have now, as Van Paul has pointed out,

even with the heavily redacted initial Francis Collins-Anthony Fauci

blast emails to three or four other people persuading them to suspend their initial impressions that this was a manufactured virus and get on the team, so to speak.

And then getting

basically, if they, see, Fauci, if they start subpoenaing all of his emails, he's likely to have been in contact with Peter Dasick, whom he said he didn't really know, but he knew well enough to use him as a conduit for $600,000 and the expertise that came along with it to fund this research.

Then remember, Dasik was the guy who created the phony Lancet investigation.

Remember that?

That all the experts were going to go over by the deductive, predetermined conclusion that this was a pangolin or bat virus.

They went over there, that they were humiliated by the Chinese.

They didn't want any discussion.

They weren't wanting window dressing.

They were wanting some kind of cheap veneer that the Chinese were cooperative.

They couldn't even do that.

And then that article has been now completely discredited.

And yet, if you go back and read what the New York Times, Washington Post, the liberal commentariat said about that investigation, lays to rest for good the conspiratorial idea of a manufactured violence.

You know, anybody who said, we've talked about this numerous times.

Tom Cotton wrote about it very early.

They went out and demonized him for saying that.

Stephen Quay was on this podcast.

They went after him.

They went after Scott Atlante.

Heck, I had letters from people in the Stanford Alumni group attacking me for suggesting it.

And so

I think Dr.

Fauci is in a very difficult position because he's on record under oath

and

he's dealing with somebody who you don't kid around with.

And Rand Paul is already filing a criminal referral for perjury.

And the mood of the country is simply this: Jack:

if you continue to let the highest officials in this government go before Congress, swear an oath to tell the truth and only nothing but the truth, and then flagrantly lie, whether that lie is one of commission,

like James Clapper,

or John Brennan, who admitted they lied, or Andrew McCabe, who admitted he lied to federal investigators, I think three of the times he took an oath,

it's lies of omission, like James Comey saying on 245 a.c., I don't know.

That's what remember, they're going to indict Walt Nalta, the Trump subordinate at Mar-Lago.

Basically, they're going to indict him for saying, I don't know, just exactly what the head of the FBI did 240 times, or Robert Mueller.

when he said he didn't know what the steel dossier or the fusion GPS.

If you're going to,

you've got to or Hillary Clinton about her server and destroying, you know, subpoenaed items.

If you're not going to enforce, if you're going to continue not to enforce the law when it's our highest, we're not going to have a republic.

And I think Dr.

Fauci is going to be,

it's kind of like musical chairs.

All of these liars have had a seat and got away with it, but the music stopped and there's no place for him.

Right.

And

he's the caboose.

And I hope that they throw the book at him

because he just serially lied and misled the American people yeah well i can't say he murdered millions but his actions to to disregard a ban on gain of function to fund it anyway

and to lie about it to congress those are dots that are easy to connect victor i think rand paul has a kind of an advantage there as opposed to you know some of the it may be wrong to compare these but hunter biden with all the you know where are these

corporations that

is hiding money?

You know, how do you,

what's the obvious facts here?

That takes, as you said earlier, like forensic accountants to find out things.

But here, it's pretty damn clear.

And who hasn't been affected themselves individually?

Or mom or grandma was killed by this, killed by what?

By this guy wanting, giving the Chinese red communist Chinese military money to create a weapon?

It's crazy.

He deserves to be in prison and his name off the wall, the holy cross yeah absolutely and he also i mentioned that he's the caboose or people are getting sick of it but there's also

from his first lie with francis collins there's a radical change in the scientific and indeed the public opinion about the lockdowns and the quarantine i think it's a general consensus now that

unlike what dr fauci said the vaccinations were not fully tested.

They were not fully safe.

They might have been valuable in a cost-benefit analysis.

We'll see,

but they had some side effects for vulnerable people.

Number two, they did not prevent people from being either infected or infectious.

And that was what they were sold on.

We now know, I think, pretty clearly that all of this trauma from

the May 120,

220 riots for 120 days, the BLM, the Antifa, the election conundrum, the George Floyd after the whole woke madness, a lot of it had to do with shutting 330 million people inside apartments and houses, depriving them of their livelihood, of social human contact, spiking cancer, canceling screenings, canceling operations, increasing spousal, familial, alcohol, drug abuse.

It was a disaster.

And Fauci was one of the architects of that.

He even said, I wasn't the person.

And he was the one who said that Flatten the Curve had to continue beyond the three weeks.

And he knows it.

And so the mood of the country is no longer sympathetic with iconic little bobblehead toy Dr.

Fauci.

No.

You know, all you had to do to figure that guy out, Jack, was look at that picture of himself in his office when

remember every little toy, every little icon of him, every little poster and photograph is plastered all around him.

Yeah.

So,

well, Victor, let's move on to the promised

discussion on Ron DeSantis.

So, he was in

Rochester.

I think it was Rochester, New Hampshire, although some news reports said Rochester, New York.

It wouldn't make more sense that he revealed this in New Hampshire.

But there's a 10-point declaration of economic independence.

And here are some of the items

on this list.

The first one is taking back control of our economy from China and restoring our economic sovereignty.

Two, achieving 3% growth by incentivizing investment, eliminating bureaucracy and red tape and keeping taxes low.

Three, unleashing America energy independence.

Four, ending ESG.

Five, restoring merit and respect for the individual as a central criteria for economic advancement.

Then he also has reforming our education system, lowering the barriers to entry for working-class Americans, creating a fair labor market, forcing the border law, reining in the Federal Reserve, opposing bailouts, and holding bad economic actors responsible, which I imagine that applies to some of those like Silicon Valley banks that get away with things.

And the final one is fighting reckless and wasteful federal spending.

Victor, I don't know what conservative or what just good old American wouldn't find this

palatable and maybe even inspiring, but that's my gut, my take.

What's your take on this, Victor?

Well, I read it as well, and

it's pretty wise in the sense it's old-fashioned deregulation, tax cuts, but it's not the George H.W.

Bush or Reagan thing alone.

It's got the MAGA middle class there.

So there's a lot of emphasis on the education elements of vocational training, a lot of skepticism about the university, a lot of attention to making the moral hazard shift to the university if they want all of this

DEI and these politicized majors and they're not worried about their graduates' ability to compute or to read.

or they're nearly now $2 trillion in indebtedness, but suggesting that they take on the role of guaranteeing their own students' loan vis-a-vis their endowments.

So if you look at it very carefully, there's a kind of a truncated form, and then there's an expansive one that shows you how to implement it, which I thought was good.

But it's basically designed for the middle class.

And

the subtext is

Even the rubrics anymore don't matter.

I mean,

it doesn't matter really what the unemployment rate.

What matters is the labor participation rate.

And it's going down.

When you have 61% of eligible people working,

and you crack, yeah, and you claim that, oh, it's only 3.5% are out of work.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

You've almost got 40% that are either on the dole or they're on the black market or they're dealing in the cash economy or they're just not participating, who are eligible.

And that's devastating.

Or when you talk about

7%,

that 7%

interest has just kicked in.

There's a lot of people who have escaped it so far because they're sitting on car loans from the 2021 or 2000 or a house.

0%, right?

Exactly.

Or they have 1.9, but that's finite.

These people will sell their homes and they're going to have to mortgage.

They're going to need a new car.

So it's going to get worse.

And there's a lot of intricacies in that document that show it the other thing is about it is and he's amplified that i think he's right about that and this is more controversial but

you've got to have people to implement it and you've got to have people that know what they're doing and that was trump had great ideas but the problem was that the bipartisan establishment shunned him.

And I'm not sure that his team thought they were going to win in 2016.

And he was rushed by the Steve Bannons, the Alma Rosos, the Scaramucci's, all of those people.

And he didn't, he got very talented people like Stephen Miller.

I mean, the guy was right on on the border, but there was not only those people.

And I was weak.

It was weak preparation.

I mean, the fact that Sally Yates, was that her name?

It was still

operating.

How about James Comey and Anthony Fauci?

Right, right.

Yeah.

And so the point is,

and then when he appointed people,

I like John Kelly, I liked Jim Mattis, but they were not on the team to implement the Trump agenda.

They were on the team to implement their agendas as they felt was best for the country.

Right.

And there were some public servants, I think a Mike Pompeo or an H.R.

McMaster,

whether they they'd agreed or not with Trump, they saw their mission as this is what the president of the United States who was elected wants, and these are my skills to translate that to the administrative state and see it implemented.

And I'm not going to freelance because I think he's a buffoon or

he should be in P, any of that stuff.

And they did a good job, and there was a lot of them, but not enough.

And so the $64,000 question, when you see a detailed print and he's got this Florida team, will he be able to do that better?

Or will Donald Trump, with all the people around him now who are seasoned and many of whom went through that disaster, will he be able to get

a team that knows how Washington works?

Or will there be people willing to work for him?

And DeSantis said today, I think it was an interview I watched with Brett Baer.

I read the transcript.

He said,

the problem is Trump will not get people good enough to work for him for a variety of reasons, meaning they either didn't want to be stained with the controversy or the Trump indictments or what, but

he can't get the hardcore conservative A team, to use that awful term, A team or all-stars that are necessary to get through a very necessary agenda.

Because I think the Trump and DeSantis and probably the Scott

are all those agendas are going to be pretty similar.

Mike Pence is probably pretty similar.

They'll differ on some issues on foreign policy, obviously.

But the only difference that I see is maybe Chris Christie and Nikki Haley will be a little bit more neoconservative or something.

But other than that,

it's not going to be about

that.

This blueprint is wonderful, but it's about who can get the people to push it through.

Reagan's genius was that when he got in there, he understood he had a shelf life of about a year, and he ran through the tax cuts.

He did it all.

And they never quite recovered to oppose him.

And so you need a team to go in there in late January of 2025 and early February, and you've got to get the Senate, and you've got to take this entire border crime energy blueprints

that he is assembling, and you've got to push it through quick.

I like, Victor, that the, you know, these things could be rearranged in any order, the 10-point, but the first one is

taking back control of our economy from China.

I find that pretty

well.

As we talked about the other day, I'm really sensitive to it because 12 miles from my house,

there was a de facto biolab that may have been ostensibly used to create test kits, but the reality is apparently everything, as we said, from measles to herpes to HIV to COVID, was there in vials.

And there were genetically engineered mice

that probably were infected with some of these things on the ground dead and others alive in humane conditions.

This was run by a Chinese connected consortium.

And when you think about the land, as we talked about, they're buying up.

I mean, their whole idea, I think everybody's got to have a complete paradigm shift on how they operate.

They're different than any other opponent this country has ever faced.

It's an insidious idea that they're going to buy farmland.

They're going to buy farmland near military bases.

They're going to probe with the trading.

They're going to call us racist.

They're going to call us illiberal, why they have a million Uyghurs in camp.

They're going to send over 380,000 students.

And they're going to say they're all being accused of espionage with the idea that just 1%,

that is 3,800,

are spies and they're going to appropriate.

Just look at their military and those parades they do.

Look at their jets, look at their uniforms, look at their artillery.

It's all copied from the United States.

It's all stolen.

And they don't create anything originally.

And I know that a lot of people that I really expect highly, like David Goldman, said, well, wait a minute, Victor, they've got more engineers.

They're better.

I think that may come true, especially if we destroy the remnants of meritocracy.

But right now, they are heavily dependent on the expertise of Americans.

And they have been stealing us blind at our expense.

And that was a great contribution.

If Donald Trump doesn't do anything the rest of his life,

he will be regarded by his historians as the one candidate in either party who in 2016 said the problem is China, China, China, China.

If you were a conspiracy theorist and you believe in China, if you were in China and you believed that your existential deadly enemy was Donald Trump for waking up the United States to what you had been doing for 20 years, and you had the ability to genetically engineer under lax security conditions, a deadly virus that would create a pandemic and destroy his presidency.

I won't go any further, but you can see where

at night I kind of take a couple of melatonin and I start dreaming.

And you can see that

they wanted that guy out.

They wanted him out.

They don't want him anywhere near.

But the weird thing is that he sparked a whole series of

followers, even the people he didn't like, the people didn't like him.

So when you look at the Republican field, they're all on the same page about China.

And Wall Street, the corporate boardroom

is not listened to because they're seen as

having

vested interests with Chinese financiers.

Well, also, Victor, for quite a while,

not only were they making money and don't want to begrudge anyone for making money in their activities in China,

but then also saying it was because of my

Morgan Stanley's involvement in

communist China, that that was going to democratize China.

That's a very good point.

And that was, again,

that started with Bill Clinton, but it was carried through in the Bush administration, that people who were making a lot of money, and it came to fruition at its zenith with Barack Obama, the people who were making the most money said, we're doing it for you.

We're doing it for world peace.

We're doing it for bilateral relations.

We're trying to bring China into the world of Western rules, order, and Western democracy.

And that's why we should be lauded for all the money we make over there.

And we,

and there were certain taboo subjects.

You don't talk about East Palestine, Ohio.

You don't talk about Selma, California.

You don't talk about all the industries that were hollowed out,

all the lives that were destroyed, all the Chinese fentanyl that was sent to Mexico and repackaged by the Cortels to kill 100,000 Americans.

You don't talk about any of that.

You just talk about, I made a billion dollars for all of you Americans because I wanted us to be friendly with this great power, China.

But more importantly, I wanted to use our values so that they would see how superior that is and they would emulate us.

And that was about as stupid a crackpot idea.

That would be like saying, I want to talk to Hitler.

I'm Neville Chamberlain.

We have to talk to Herr Hitler.

And then once he sees what gentlemen we are, how diplomatic we are, he will stop his aggression, want to emulate English rules of behavior.

And after,

people should remember that after the Munich Agreement, Hitler was angry.

Right.

He was angry because he wanted to invade immediately and he had nothing but contempt.

He saw him as a little speed bump, Chamberlain.

And he said, you know what?

I would like to see that old man and jump on him and smash him in his stupid umbrella.

He hated that guy for not just

because he delayed the invasion of Poland, because that was to his advantage, but he said, I saw them at Munich.

They were worms.

They're worms.

He took magnanimity on the part of Chamberlain, and he rightly interpreted it as weakness to be exploited.

Right.

And that's what people did with our captains of industry when they went over to China.

That's what what the Chinese apparatus did.

They said, you know, these Americans are so bam stupid.

It's kind of like the illegal immigration.

You know, when you have these people in the Roosevelt Hotel in New York and they come here, they break the law number one, crossing the border.

They break the law number two by residing inside the United States.

They break the law number three

by probably having phony idea.

We put them up in a New York hotel and then there's no time limit and then they have to leave.

And then what do they do?

They try to trash it.

They're out demonstrating.

they assault.

And we have this absurd idea that we're letting immigration criminals be subsidized by the federal government when we have people,

whether it's returning veterans or poor people that can't buy an apartment or can't rent an apartment or buy a house.

It's just absurd.

But you think what my point is, do you think that those illegal aliens that are attacking people in the streets of New York or that are angry and demanding they get more free things?

Do you think they say to these, they think, I love this country because Americans are so warm-hearted.

And, you know, unlike Mexico, it's a diverse, racially diverse, ethnically diverse country.

And that's why I came here.

And every time the Americans let me stay in a beautiful hotel free, they give me free food, I'm going to reciprocate with...

comparable magnetic or do they think oh what are these stupid gringos these people are blank blank idiots i have nothing but contempt for them.

And I'm going to take them to the cleanup.

That is the attitude.

I know that because I've seen people here where I live with that attitude.

And I've just.

Nobody likes a sucker.

Everyone, you know, you want,

you abuse them, but you, and you take, take from them, but you hate them.

Well,

I was at a food market two days ago.

I won't name where it was, but in my vicinity.

And I was standing next to

a Mexican-American woman, woman, a very nice, kind person who was telling me that she works two jobs.

And we were behind a guy, a very, very obese guy who did not speak very good Spanish because his dialect was a Baja dialect.

I think Mixoteca, Baja, or

an indigenous, and he was obviously right from the south of the border.

And we waited there, Jack, for about 10 minutes while he took out EBT card after EBT card after EBT card, five of them,

five of them before he found one that had residual money on them.

Why we were waiting in line and she was telling me, look at him, look at this.

Yeah.

And look at this.

Look what he's buying.

I was just saying to buy Doritos or something.

Oh,

it was all full of processed food,

Coca-Cola, no diet, Mountain Dew, no diet, and then special alcohol that he paid with cash or a different type of card.

And he didn't speak a word of English, and he poorly spoke Spanish.

And she said to me, he's right from the cross.

He was one of these people who was bused in lately.

Bused in, she said.

And she was, you know, Mexican-American.

She was outraged because she was telling me she works two jobs.

And, but my point is, do you think that that guy, when he looked around at everybody, said, I love you, Americans.

You know, I may weigh 300 pounds.

I get to come the country.

You give me free Coke.

You give me free ice cream.

I don't have to work.

This is wonderful.

And I'm going to really be a part of your country.

Maybe in some cases that's true.

But from the way he acted, and he did not care one bit that there was one checked line open and there were 10 people waiting while he just sat there, stood there and went slowly.

And the poor

clerk said, no, it doesn't work.

No, that one doesn't work either.

Do you have another one?

No, that doesn't work either.

Maybe we'll have to just put these aside and you'll have to go because we, no, that one doesn't work either.

Do you have another one?

Oh,

there's something left on that card.

And that's what, and he didn't care.

So

I think human nature being what it is, that that's going to be one, whoever the Republican nominee is, and if the Republicans can unite behind them, conservatives, there's going to be a big change in this country.

You can feel it.

When you see people in San Francisco who, when you have the mayor of San Francisco say that if she could get rid of every tax she would to get business back, or you see those white, brown, black suburbanites march on Oakland and they go into that city council meeting and that sorrows-funded DA starts giving her that sickening narrative about how she suffered and she understands why people do that.

And they just shouted her down.

They're just sick of it.

And the idea that the criminal who victimizes the innocent person is a a victim has no currency anymore.

So I think it's all coming to

a head.

And I hope the conservatives can unite, get the message, and save the country from itself because it's imploding.

And not to go down a tangent, maybe we'll take a break, but one last thing on DeSantis.

And I think because you just mentioned

conservatives

will go forward in the next year.

But

I like DeSantis' package, particularly compared to what we discussed about like two episodes ago, this freedom conservatism, which is, you know, I guess it's kind of academic and scholarly, but

quote-unquote

scholarly.

But this is a kind of an agenda that is grappling with the realities that Americans are actually facing.

That's what I like about it.

It's not theoretical.

It just says you are Bill Smith or Juan Lopez or Tyrone Wilson, and you're a middle-class person and you work hard, and you can't buy a house, and you can't have your kids get educated without huge loans, and you can't walk down the street of a major American city after dark without being assaulted, and you don't know who you're going to meet who came across the border illegally, and you're giving all these billions of dollars to Ukraine and you don't have arsenals to protect your own country, or you fled Afghan and they're saying, what can I do for you?

How can I stop that madness that's ruining your life?

Tell me how to do it.

And this blueprint suggests that.

And it has to be radical.

It has to be structural.

You've got to tell Harvard or Princeton University, you're not going to have a 50 or 40 or 30 billion dollar endowment tax-free and then spend this money on indoctrinating

students of the elite that's going to run this country as if they came out of a commissariat 1930 Soviet Union.

And you're not going to get away anymore either with practicing blatant Jim Crow racism.

We're just not going to let you do it.

And you have to take them on.

And that requires radical reform.

And that's what this document is about.

You could end the monopoly of the teachers' union tomorrow in most states if you just said,

Mr.

Mrs.

Miss would-be teacher, you're idealistic, you've got a BA, you want to go teach in the public schools, but they make you go through a year and a half of the education indoctrination.

You don't have to do that to get a credential.

Just go walk over to the history department, walk over to the biology department, get a one and a half year master's degree where you really intensify your knowledge and the teaching will come on its own.

That happens happens in JC.

No community college teacher has to go through the education department.

They do just well.

PhDs do not have to learn how to teach.

You get your academic training, you go right in and teach.

And it's rough the first year.

You learn, like throwing a kid in the old West in water.

He learns high school.

And so that would break the power of the teachers union right there.

And so there are things we can do to get the country back.

And I like this blueprint.

I like all of the Republicans what they're talking about because for the first time in my life, they're talking about systemic,

that's a term the left use, but systemic reform.

It doesn't do any good to give any more shivalous.

I'm going to come in and lower the income tax rate 2%.

I'm going to prune back, I don't know, the Department of Homeland Security.

There should have never been all these departments.

And you're going to have somebody to go in there and just say, it doesn't work anymore for the middle class and start doing radical things.

But to do that, you have to have a blueprint, you have to people carry it out, and you have to act professionally.

You have no margin of error.

No unenforcement.

You have to win.

You got to win, baby.

You got to win.

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So, okay, Victor, here's a headline from the Daily Mail: The Big Echo Lie.

Solar panels produce five times more carbon dioxide than

previously previously reported.

Here's the first couple of lines from this article.

Solar panels release five times more carbon dioxide than previously thought, according to a new report.

An Italian researcher made the claims after finding a database that world institutions use to calculate global carbon footprint projections that it omits emissions from China, which produces 80% of solar panels worldwide.

China is known to use

coal-burning plants in manufacturing, which has dropped the price of technology for Americans and other Western countries.

The article goes on with more data.

Victor, I remember in the old days, Paul Harvey, the radio guy, always had a little thing.

And here's the rest of the story.

And it seems something like this: and many things when it comes to green crap oil, like windmills.

We do not hear the rest of the story often.

And these

solar panels, windmills, other things, their

impact, this quote, you know, saving the planet, they actually seem to end up being more costly to the environment

than salt.

Give me your thoughts, Michael.

Go ahead.

Mr.

Dr.

Ph.D.

of Environmental Science and Ms.

PhD

of the Green New Deal and Mr.

Al Gore and John Kerry forgot to tell us this little fact that 70 70 to 80 percent of the solar panels are produced by the burning of coal.

I can conveniently laugh that out.

Is that what you're insinuating?

Well, they were talking about other things in their private jet as they were going to Davos.

Yeah.

I guess Al Gore has, what, a 7,000 amp probably circuit breaker for his electric consumption in one of his mansions.

But the point is this, that What we see with leftist ideology, it's always based on the idea that they are so morally superior that they and they alone have the right to violate the law or violate their own cannons.

So what do I mean by this in this context?

They told us that if you kill a bald eagle, you're going to go to jail.

I think you should.

And if you hurt species, but if you build a solar zapper electric thing or you build a windmill and it just harvests everything from red tail hawks to albatrosses, or you name the endangered species, they don't care.

It's for the greater good.

Or if you say that you can't disrupt scenic views, or you can't, you're going to take down Elon Musk as ex

or you're going to take down Donald Trump's flag because each community has scenic considerations, they don't care if you build an ugly windmill right on a beach.

They have no problem whatsoever.

And

they violate all of their own canons on the altar of green, green, green excuses any violations of our

value system that we apply to you stupid people.

And that's why it gets people really angry.

And so

you can look at right, I'm looking out the window and five miles away is Stonehenge, this high-speed rail.

And any other project,

any other project, they'd say, this is corrupt.

It's inefficient.

It's destroying the landscape.

landscape you're going into

kings county and you're making a swath right through some of the most beautiful farmland ancestral oak trees just so you can go from merced to bakersfield 20 miles faster than you can on amtrak or 40 miles this train to nowhere and it's not even had one but it's okay victor what are you saying it's high-speed rail It's ecologically sound.

It's what the French do and the Chinese and the Japanese.

Get on the rail, get on the car, come on.

And that's how they do it.

They always justify the contradictions of their own ideology by the idea that it's for the greater good for the most people.

Very Marxist idea.

And this is what this whole solar panels thing.

Oh, yeah, we have to use coal, but it's for renewable energy.

We don't really care.

It's for renewable energy.

Solindra may be completely corrupt.

It may be an old inside deal con with the Obama donor class, but it's for the greater good.

It's for solar panel.

It shouldn't matter.

And

that's what they do.

And

it's tragic, but everybody has to understand that leftist ideology, how they think.

And, you know, they

can you imagine that what we're doing right now, we're telling people in California, that cooktop that's very efficient and is a great thing, you're going to have to get rid of it.

And that your famous pizza in New York, your,

I don't know,

open pit or whatever it is, you're going to have to get rid of it, that trademark.

And you guys with those very efficient natural gas, clean burning hot water, you're going to have to get rid of it.

And we're going to lie to you and say the electric replacement will be better and less costly.

Even if you got rid of it, Victor, then you can't eat meat on it.

They don't want you to eat meat anymore.

Then you'll eat crickets or whatever the other.

And

we're going to really fixate on the you the misdemeanor because the existential felony i.e two to three new coal burning plants a month in china we have no f clue how in the hell we're going to deal with that because they are now the biggest polluter and they don't care so our attitude of john kerry's is hey middle class we know you're hurting but you're going to hurt a lot more because here's why you have to hurt i can't deal with the chinese i don't want to deal with them i like the Chinese, but they're polluting so much that we have to get the whole global levels down a little bit and we can help them.

We'll let them pollute, but we'll cut our emissions almost to, what do you call it, zero, net, net, and zero, but we're going to do it on your back because,

you know,

you're an American and you're the middle class and you're irredeemable, a dregs, a chump, a MAGA, a MAGA this, a semi-fascist that, a clinger this, and you're going to pay the price.

And that's how they think.

And that's why this election is so valuable, is so important, because it's our last chance to put a check on all of this madness before it destroys us.

And it's getting close to destroy us on every front.

And by the way, Victor, I was, you know, I was out in in California.

This is Monday, just yesterday morning, Sunday morning, I was driving down from Napa down in Fresno on 99, and I did see

what you call Stonehenge.

And

it really is jarring, but jarring in two ways.

A, it's jarring because it's just big, this big concrete monstrosity, and it's a chunk.

And then you think, oh my God, where's the rest of this?

And there's so much more to do.

And

you gotta get done.

How many people will ride the damn thing?

Three?

You know, it's insane.

Well, there is Amtrak from Bakersfield to Mercedes.

So the idea was that we're going to spend $300 billion, $200 billion so you can get,

what, 600 yards from the Amtrak tracks.

And, you know,

the cost analyses that of taking the one Amtrak track that goes from Bakersfield up to Northern California, Sacramento, and then on in the Bay Area on a lateral

to get two tracks so that

you could slice a large time off the travel time because no car would have to sit there.

And then you could upgrade the tracks and you could get a conventional Amtrak up to 80 miles an hour.

It was about 5% of this.

It would be done now.

And then for another 10% or 20% of this, you could have taken the three main north-south laterals, the 99, which is by 100 miles travel, 100,000 miles traveled, the most deadly quote-unquote freeway.

It's not really a freeway everywhere in the United States, the quote-unquote 101 freeway, which is not a freeway, still four lanes in many places, and I-5.

And you could have made them six lanes, freeway, the whole length of California.

And we still would have had a surplus if we just didn't have Stonehenge.

And you can't tell people that on the left.

And so,

why?

Because they have this idea.

They really do.

You talk to them long enough, and you read Stanley Kurtz has written about it, Joel Kotkin has written about it,

and you really can understand what they want.

They want people in high-rises, like a Soviet flat, with very minimal energy, with group activities outside supervised by suitably trained people.

So you have a green six or seven high-rise.

Forget what we know about what that did to Chicago or Detroit after World War II.

And then everybody's on a high-speed rail, but it will be low-speed, mass transit run by union employees who have absolute life or death over your physical safety in that train, the degree of cleanliness in that train, and how much they can get out of you to be sitting at an automatic console.

And if they don't like you or they think they're worth $300,000 rather than $200,000, they can shut the whole system down.

That's what they want.

Government-controlled,

and then there's going to be necessary John Kerry's and Al Gores, and they're going to live in Malibu, and they're going to live in Beverly Hills, and Pacific Palisades, and Palace Verdes on five to six acres energy consumption mansions, and they're going to oversee this, just like they have a dock up

in the

Black Sea coast, just exactly like that under the old Soviet system.

The leftist ideologues do thrill

to

make other people dance at their command.

Everybody should make it a psychological thrill.

Yeah, and they really, they really, historically, socialists, but especially Marxists and communists,

they hate the upper middle class and the middle class.

The middle class and the upper middle class, they lack what they think is the culture and the taste of the very wealthy,

and they lack the romance of the distant poor, and they can't romanticize the middle class.

This is the guy who works his rear end off, and then he gets his, you know, ram

1500, and he loads up his Winnebago, and he's got a couple of jet skis on the back, trailer, and he goes up to the lake, gets his barbecue.

He's

king of the mountains.

He's a man.

It threatens them on the manhood.

They don't like this.

You can't have that Winnebago.

There's people who don't have a car.

How dare you have that?

That's a good energy gut.

You're doing this.

You're doing that.

This is not necessary.

You need to go to a Silemar over there in Pacific Grove and go to a, if you want to have a weekend off, you can go over there to an ecological conference, but it'll instruct you how to

get rid of your cooktop.

That's how they think.

And they're very dangerous, self-righteous people.

And you've got to stop them.

We have to identify them and stop them.

I'm not calling, you know, for more polarization.

I'm just trying to tell everybody that

they don't have any public support, and yes, and yet they're running the public because of their institutional.

Yeah, and we can't laugh at them anymore, Victor.

You may have said the Green New Deal.

Oh, look at that crazy thing.

Well, they're implementing the damn stuff.

There are consequences to their lunatics, they're on the left.

And 10 years ago, 10 years ago,

and that was

in

2013, I heard Hillary Clinton, I think she was at Secretary of State,

or had she stepped down, she'd stepped down.

I think it was, she was just a private citizen.

And she said something, I didn't know what it was at a rally.

I want to welcome the LGBTQ something community.

Those letters, I'd never heard it before.

It was kind of new.

And then she talked about

this and that and the transgendered community.

And I thought, wow,

I I know about transgenderedism.

I've read

certain classical works of psychology, you know, Young and Freud and Havelock Ellis on sexuality.

And

I know of the phenomenon of hermaphroditism from classical anecdotes.

I've read my deodorous, where they talk about people of ambiguous sexual organs or cross-dressing in Petronius, but this is

a chronicle, very, very small percentage of the population.

And I left it at that.

I thought it was, then my little angel, that was the angel on my right shoulder, but my little devil on the left shoulder whispered my ear, hey, Victor, Victor, Victor, you idiot, we're going to do this and this and this.

And 10 years from now, this is going to be the new civil rights movement.

And 40% of most campuses are going to say they're considering transitioning or they're now fluid in their sexuality and we're going to have drag.

This is where it's going to go.

You wait and see.

I would have thought that was crazy.

I would have kicked the little devil off my shoulder and said, get out of here.

That's impossible in the United States.

Or, you know,

the swimmer, you remember him from Princeton?

Which one?

The man that won the mediocre male swimmer, and then he transitioned.

Oh, I mean, from Penn.

Yeah, Penn.

I'm sorry.

Yes.

Leah, there's a lot of articles this week about the women who had to dress with him.

18 times.

Yeah, like

his Johnson dangling.

Yeah,

he sits there with his phallus

and his testicles right in front of young 18, 19-year-old women.

And he's not shy about it.

And they're told that the problem's with them.

And then you think 10, 20, 30 years ago, a person who walked into a female locker room.

And

well, I can remember in high school, we had every once in a while weird, sick kids that thought thought it was neat to

burst through and run into the girls' restroom or in the girls' gym, especially the locker.

Or, in fact, I remember that like six guys hoisted somebody up to look through the window.

They didn't screw around with those people.

They were really tough on them.

They got expelled.

But

it's weird how we, again, it's this idea that if you get into a leftist ideological cause, then it trumps all other causes that are

when you become illiberal.

What happened to the sensitivity of young girls to protect right?

So, you mentioned before that they said it was their problem.

Well, that they was

the college administrators, those girls did complain

to the administrators.

And the same administrators that would crucify someone over

fabricated sexual assault allegation are the same ones who are telling these girls, you have the problem.

you need to get right with the new reality.

Yeah, what's really happened, and the same thing with the sound of freedom.

It used to be that the left was always talking about the children.

We're doing this for the children.

We've got to protect the children.

And all of a sudden, the left has abandoned that.

And it's now the transgendered people.

And if you talk about children exposed to

men dressed as women grabbing their genitals or simulating intercourse in front of six-year-olds or having books that show how to commit oral intercourse, then all of a sudden

you're a homophobe or a transphobe because you're

what?

Trying to help the children and you're worried about the children.

You're an amblophobe.

Yeah, it's really weird how the left has just completely flipped so that they don't care about the children.

They don't care about free speech.

They don't care about

economic opportunity for the middle class.

They're just global elitist,

they're just ideologues, and they don't care about anybody but their own particular agenda with them exempt.

That's where they're weakest when everybody knows now that they have to be exempt because they would never, believe me, the architects and these universities that are allowing that, if they have an eight or nine or 10 or 15 year old daughter and there are biological males and their prep schools that are exposing, whether deliberately or accidentally, their genitals to them, they are not going to like that.

I don't think they will.

They think that that won't happen to them.

Well, as you've talked about many times, the revolution often eats its own at some point.

So

hopefully they'll be chewed up like the crickets they expect us to eat.

Hey, Victor, we're kind of,

but I'm going to read three

today and people can you know people listen on all kinds of platforms to this podcast and by the way you can listen to it through uh victor's website you know the lady of perseus but those who do listen on um iTunes and slash apple it rates this rate the show zero to five stars and again practically everybody leaves five stars we thank them and some leave comments we do read all the comments or also read the comments and many people leave comments on on your website Victor read them too but here's here's three okay first one

huge vdh fan that's uh that's from miller light drinker one okay i've watched vdh for years on on fox and other shows as folks the attitude yet superior knowledge of history and ability to break down topics today's topics for the greater masses is a skill set that is hard to match i love hearing his stories of farming and find myself laughing out loud at some of his missteps while growing the family crops.

I didn't know he had a podcast till just this year, so now I'm a die-hard fan and download all of his shows.

His co-hosts are very enjoyable as well.

That's not why I read this, by the way.

Love Sammy, Wink, and Jack, and that's a Miller Light Drinker one.

And then the second of the three is from Beach Bum 4, and it's titled Outstanding on Hoover Institution and Stanford.

Really good discussion of Stanford's self-directed dilemma, as well as the function and influence of the Hoover Institute.

So pleased to support Hoover's mission and fellows.

We need to get back to education as it used to be taught while making connections with our current world.

Thank you, Beach Bump, for and the final one.

This is a little odd one, but you know,

he's hit on something here.

It's called, it's titled Love the Ads.

Victor,

you should go in this Victor Davis Hansen fan club on Facebook and be like, oh, I wish I went, there's so many ads.

I wish they'd stop.

Can we have an episode, you know, a version without the ads?

Blah, blah, blah.

Well, anyway, this guy writes, I'm a huge fan of the show.

Like many, I truly appreciate Victor's return to the fundamentals of human nature and to the basis for Western civilization.

It helps make sense of our complex world.

The increasing ad-bys heard give me confidence that the message is getting through.

Ad-bys mean audience, a large audience.

Wait, wait, wait.

I just had a conversation with a very informed person that said, Victor,

would you take some constructive criticism?

I said, absolutely.

Go to it.

And he said, I don't like your podcast because you have, you go to an ad, Sammy or Jack goes to an ad, and they're not always an ad.

Right.

Sometimes it's dead air, right?

Yes.

And that means, aren't you selling your ads?

And I said, I will look into it.

And we'll either not have so many breaks or we'll sell more ads.

So

this is counterintuitive to what I was just told a week ago by a very learned person.

Well, maybe he...

A business person.

Yeah.

Well, maybe this gentleman, if you know, he sees the same kind of criticisms that some people make about too many.

Let me just, he ends it this way, essentially.

The ads.

are a concrete sign of the tsunami of a return to traditionalism in our society.

Joy to the world.

Thanks to Jack Sammy and especially to Victor.

Each of you matter greatly.

Sincerely, this is Dr.

Brian,

Dr.

Brian from Waukesha County, Wisconsin, who also signs himself as Mr.

Big82.

I just want to be Mr.

Big 370.

Thank you, Brian.

I appreciate that.

Maybe the ads have picked up.

This person who told me this said, would you mind if I

helped you and talk to some concerns that would would so maybe it's working but well but it's

but but Jack but yes yes yes sir that is that's your end of the you and Sammy you are the people who form the the contours of that all I do is blab

you're the people who figure out the breaks, this, the that, the whole structure of it that allow me to blab.

People are coming for the blab, all right?

And it's good blab.

top choice,

sir, top choice grade A blab, and we get it here four times a week, folks.

So, and this was a great one.

I thank you, Victor, for you,

as typical, usual, all the wisdom you shared today.

And thanks, folks, for listening.

And we will be back soon with yet another episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

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