From India to California
Join Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Sami Winc who discuss a white manager winning $25 million in Starbuck's suit, Tucker's rant on dictators, India's role in international affairs, Adam Schiff's censure, Senate Bill 553 in California, Cornel West and Francis Suarez enter the 2024 race, and the movie "Tar."
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So hopefully, we hit on a few things, and especially we'll be looking at India.
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Tucker.
Tucker has recently done a,
what do you call those, short little excerpt on the wannabe dictator.
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Victor is the Martin and Nealey Anderson Senior Fellow in Military History and Classics at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marsha Buskie Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.
Victor, we usually start off with something
positive, and I noticed that there was a court settlement in favor of a white Starbucks manager of the to the tune of 25 million after she was fired from a Pennsylvania area that she controlled.
And she was fired after two young black men were not allowed to use the restrooms and they didn't have any, they weren't customers, so they hadn't bought anything.
And so she won her case for 25 with a result of 25 million.
Amazing.
I think what we're watching is a very, very,
very, very, very, very slow rollback of woke.
For example, Starbucks, remember, with great fanfare, announced that they were going to solve all of the urban tensions and the homeless population by allowing people without a code to get into the bathrooms, no punch a keypad or keys, whether you were a customer or not.
And then almost immediately, their employees were put at risk with the drugs being injected in the restrooms, vagrants coming in, people just, you know, I don't want to buy any coffee.
I'm going to use your restroom.
And so there was a lot of pushback.
But in that process between the dream of the founder, is his name Schultz or something?
His dream of a utopia and the reality of a dystopia.
there were the employees and they didn't know what to do when people were coming in and so there were employees who said you know
the new rule and you can't come in here.
And of course, whether that predated the new rule or after the, I shouldn't say the new rule, the revised rule, because I do think if you go in there and
maybe if the door is open, you can use it.
But if there's a code, I don't think they'll give it to you if you're not a customer.
But who knows?
Anyway, my point is that under the woke doctrines, that if you were treated
in a way you didn't like and you happened to be black, then you had a grievance and then you were threatening to do stuff.
And then the authorities in question
made the necessary adjustments, and the necessary adjustments were themselves sort of racist.
So we're seeing a pushback.
We're seeing it with the Los Angeles Dodgers.
There's a lot of Catholic groups, and they're going to get a lot of people coming out to this
daughters of, what do you call it, perpetual
blank, blank, blank.
I hear so many things, but
indulgence.
Yeah, that's right.
And that, I mean, what I don't like about them is
they passed off as a charities.
And I was just driving and I was listening to, we don't, we're not anti-Christian.
We're not anti-Catholic.
This is discrimination.
No, no, no.
Why don't you just say what you are?
Because you simulate sex acts with Jesus Christ and nuns.
And that's why you have the word indulgence.
And you use nomenclature from the church, sisters of perpetual.
And your whole shtick
is to simulate sex acts, mock nons, make fun of protocols, get on the Christ church, the Christ cross, and act as if it's some kind of dancing pole to simulate intercourse.
And why don't you just say it?
Why don't you just say, you know what?
We're gay, we're happy, we don't like the church.
That's why we do the stuff we do.
We insult religion.
We think it's a bad thing.
And we're going to keep doing it if you don't like it.
But they don't do that.
So what are they going to do in Los Angeles Dodgers?
I don't know, but there's people getting angry, and the people who are getting angry are not all MAGA people, they're Hispanics.
A lot of people are waking up.
I think you're right, they're starting to say, you know what?
Woke equals civilizational extinction.
You cannot have a society operating on the
principles of woke.
That is called pre-civilizational tribalism, where you make
decisions,
appointments, promotions, demotions on the
basis of tribal considerations in this case race.
It won't work.
And
we're spending probably hundreds of billions of dollars with these commissars, these woke commissars, diversity, equity, inclusion commissars.
And all they're doing is, besides the fact that they produce nothing, they're impeding meritocracy.
And they're everywhere, like a panopticon with all their eyes watching, watching to see if they can find anything insidious anything micro anything systemic because they can't find racism in the modern-day american society at least compared to other society so i think that's good i think we're starting to see little indications that people say and not this pig i'm sorry i'm not going to do it anymore and we're going to fight back if everybody would do that and just say, call me anything you want.
Here, here's some ideas.
Call me a racist, transphobe, homophobe, sexist, fascist, the usual stuff.
I don't care.
I think it would disappear.
Yeah, in a heartbeat.
Well,
on to Tucker.
Tucker just recently had a short video where he was talking about a producer at Fox that actually, I think he resigned, but it was a mutually agreed resigning for having put a subtitle that said, Wannabe Dictator Speaks at
White House after having his political rival arrested.
And Joe Biden, of course, was giving a speech.
So Tucker went on a rant, I guess, as you would say, about Joe Biden and dictatorship.
And what are your thoughts on that?
Well, I think I've met Alexander.
I think his name was Alexander McCaskill.
He's pretty high up in Fox.
He's been there a long time.
And I mean,
you can't call the president of the United States a dictator on the news, although Tucker had a really good slant on it.
Is it episode four?
He has these 10 to 12 minute monologues and
they come out as, you know, what they remind me of is that,
oh, about 1850 in England, when Dickens would take a novel and he'd serialize it and put it in the Times, and everybody would wait and wait and wait and wait, and they would get great expectations.
Or Nicholas Nickleby and pieces as episodes.
Well, this is what he's doing.
He's giving you an episode, episode, episode.
I know that he's transitioning into having
guests and videos and pretty much emulating what he did, but on a very different platform.
But
his take was really interesting.
He was completely a satire, a parody.
Joe Biden is not a dictator.
If he was a dictator, he would have sons like Cusset, Saddam's son, who was taking drugs and womenizing.
Our dictators wear shades and they're
bragging on their aviator glasses and they have big, nice cars, or everybody's homeless and they've got three or four homes that nobody can explain how they got.
And
they give their family, you know, phony titles like doctor who aren't doctors.
And then he's, and he couldn't be, he just couldn't be a dictator because they take money from foreign dictators under the table.
And then every once in a while they rant and rage.
And, you know, dictators go after their political opponents.
If a guy's a threat, then they go use a machine to have their government to indict him and put him in jail.
They sure wouldn't do that.
He went on and on.
It was quite brilliant, really, to tell you the truth.
Nobody knows what to do, Sammy, with Tucker.
Yes.
Nobody knows what to do.
Fox is looking at this and they're thinking, hmm.
When Bill O'Wiley left, Tucker came in, and we didn't know much about him.
He'd been around.
He hadn't been nearly as successful as Bill O'Weilly.
So we took it, and he was,
he trumped him.
He was very successful.
And then they said, you know, how can we replace Megan Kelly?
And by the way, Megan Kelly is great right now.
If anybody goes and watches her podcast, I urge everybody to do it.
She's got a lot of wit and gumption, and she's fearless.
But Laura came in, and Laura did a very good job, excellent.
And so they thought that the continuity between a good person and a good person and a good person would continue.
So Tucker was good.
They were going going to bring in, I don't know who.
No.
Three times not a charm.
And so they've lost a million point three.
And now they're threatening to sue him on the idea that he had a non-competition clause that if he were to be under pay, I suppose, I haven't read it.
Or for, I guess it's up to a year or two years, he can't compete.
But that's the key, isn't it?
Compete.
And so they're going to have to adjudicate.
You really think that Twitter is a network news station?
I don't.
Yeah.
No, I don't think in court that they would win.
Not the same thing.
Because I think they're going to argue he can tweet.
If he was just tweeting, right, like everybody else, they wouldn't sue him.
But they're tweeting because he has a video element to his tweet.
But millions of people put videos on Twitter, right, instead of tweeting.
So I think
he's saying, bring it on.
Then his.
A lawyer who I know a little bit, Hormette Dylan, she's very capable and she's his lawyer and she's urging people not to appear on Fox in Solidarity.
So we're coming to
a big collision and there are rumors that if you go on Fox and then you cannot go on Tuck.
I mean,
Tucker's not that way.
Anybody can come on Tucker
that he wants.
But if you go on Tucker, there's rumors that Fox will not approve of that.
I don't know what that means, but we'll see.
But it's a great thing.
He's got,
you know, in that hour space, he had 3.2 million, but in the hour that that thing appears on twitter he's got like 10 million and then
a movie i mean a network news anchor after the hour is over there's not a lot of what residuals that people then five hours later i know they have they repeat it for a few hours but it doesn't go viral
but tucker's monologue gets four or five times more that in that hour that it's released and sometimes late at night than he got at Fox.
But more importantly, he gets up to 100 million.
I think he's getting close to a quarter billion
viewers that have seen his three or four episodes.
He's going to get up to a billion by probably mid-July.
That's incredible.
And so I don't think anybody knows what to do.
He's single-handedly
making,
he's restoring the financial wherewithal on Twitter of Elon Musk.
Smart Elon Musk.
Elon Morris, I like Elon Musk.
He always surprises people.
He never gives up, never gives up.
No, absolutely not.
Well, let's talk a little bit about India.
I know their Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, will be here on June 22nd.
Yeah.
And I was wondering just to get your reflections on India, given that we have, it seems like, a Russia, China, Iran triangle triangle and a, I guess, square,
Australia, India, Japan, and the U.S.
seems to be
India is a little different.
I mean, it's predominantly the major language, I think, is English, and it has that English colonial pedigree, but it's violating the sanctions in a way that Australia or Britain or New Zealand, Canada, or America are not.
And it has to.
It needs oil.
So it's buying Russian oil during the Ukrainian war.
And it's
Modi, the left hates him, right?
They call him an authoritarian.
He's proud of Hindu nationalists, they call him.
And he's not popular in the United States with non-Indian expatriate communities.
But if you look at India and China, it was always China was the miracle and India is a mess.
But if you look at it very carefully,
China is shrinking because of that one child.
It has 1.4 billion.
I think India is 1.3, and India is slated, I think, to pass China's population in a year or two.
More importantly, it's got an English-speaking population.
And more importantly, it's democratic.
And more importantly,
aside from its checkered relationship with the West, it's a Western country.
It's Eastern, but it's had the Raj there for so long.
It had.
So there's a lot of advantages of a close alliance with India and vis-a-vis China.
And that's something I think would be working in our favor, that India becomes much more muscular, much more powerful, and we can decouple.
And I think companies could move to India as they are to Vietnam, but they should out of China.
And so that, and it's a bulwark.
The tragedy of the Ukraine war was we had ways of containing containing Russia
and ways of using Russia.
We could contain
Russia with NATO.
We could contain Russia on its eastern flank with Asian allies.
And India was one that was back and forth.
It was pro-Russia.
It was pro-West.
We could contain China with
Russia.
and India.
And now we've lost that element.
We've lost Henry Kissinger's, as I keep repeating, that formula that nobody's going to be,
China's not going to be any friendlier to Russia than it is to us and vice versa, Russia, China to us.
And that's one of the casualties of the Ukrainian war.
And
so we need to really build our relations
with India as a bulwark or deterrent against both Russia and China.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's a big trade partner as well.
So the economic benefits of they're tough buyers.
They're tough buyers of almonds.
Yeah.
That's I can tell you there's a whole, there's a whole crop for almond growers.
We send our almonds and they sit down for various reasons during the disastrous COVID lockdown.
And then we had kind of a trade war with China.
And then there was the supply chain.
And then they have a shelf life in a cargo container of about I don't know, a year.
And the Indians know that.
So they're just twiddling their thumb to say, we love those almonds, but oh, they're going bad.
Or our spies in the Port of L.A.
or the Port of Oakland say that some of those containers have been there from last year's crop, nine months.
I tell you what, we don't really think they're worth $4.50 a pound.
We'll make you a great deal.
We'll buy, I don't know, a million pounds at $1.42.
That's how they negotiate.
And everybody out here is losing their shirt at almond.
Yeah.
So sad thing, given that your whole ranch is planted in almonds, I understand.
Yes, but the fact that I was in my 60s and I'm not worrying about renters or,
you know, pruning grapes and picking grapes and turning them into raisins and hauling bins and having.
every little building on the place full of raisin bins.
And then,
you know, vineyards are much more upkeep.
Now, I look outside and the almonds, and it's like the whole 41 acres is on autopilot.
Automatic fertilizing, automatic herbicide, automatic pumping, automatic picking, no thinning, no pruning.
It's like a ghost orchard.
You know, every once in a while, I see a guy come through that rents it, one of the renters' employees on a four-wheeler.
All he's doing is looking for coyote bites on rip hoses, basically.
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and we'll come back to talk a little bit about California and some of the things going on in California.
Stay with us and we'll be right back.
We're back.
And Victor, so Adam Schiff,
he first off is being censured, or they had attempted to censure him.
The Ana Paulina Luna from Florida,
I don't know what they call it, they pass a
proposal in Congress that he be censored, and it didn't win.
They had the votes, but they couldn't get everybody on the same page.
Yeah.
But I think that affects him.
And what I really want to get at is the Feinstein's seat as senator.
And I was wondering your reflections on that, because I know Adam Schiff is one of the people that would like that seat.
But in the difficult, woke atmosphere we have, I have a feeling he's not going to get it.
But what do you think?
Well, there's a lot of dimensions why they wanted to censor him because
remember, they
made a career, they being the left, of what they call disinformation and misinformation.
So they,
in the sense of social media, they enlisted the FBI.
So the FBI was a official government agency that was paying Twitter $3 million
a year to suppress quote unquote disinformation, i.e.
authentic laptop embarrassing to Joe Biden, or
they were pushing disinformation like 51 quote unquote intelligence authorities that had to, on the prompt of Anthony Blinken, write a falsehood that Joe Biden's
son's computer had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation for Joe to say that during the upcoming debate.
So they're masters of disinformation and they project going after people people for disinformation.
But Adam Schiff was the disinformationalist par excellence.
For two years, that guy got out in front of the cameras and he had a shtick.
Everybody knows it.
He would look at the camera and in very soft tones, he'd say,
they would get a crowd of reporters in the halls of Congress and they'd say,
Congressman Schiff, Chairman Schiff,
is there, what is the latest disclosure?
Well, I can't disclose it.
I can't disclose it.
This is, we're in, we have classified information, but
all I can tell you is what has come before my eyes is pretty worrisome.
It's pretty worrisome.
I'm not going to disclose, but it's a bombshell quality.
And then he'd look and he'd go off.
And then during the impeachment, he read into the record what he said Trump said on the phone call, right?
And then somebody said, wait a minute, he didn't say that.
Well, I'm ad-libbing and I'm sort of, you know, acting as if Trump should have, could have, would have said this.
And he was just lying.
And then he lied and said he hadn't met Vinman.
And Vinman was on the phone call and broke protocol, which is classified.
What can be more classified than a private conversation of the president of the United States and the president of Ukraine?
So Vinman, being a Ukrainian zealot, pro-Ukrainian, then he sees that the weapons might be temporarily delayed.
And by the way, this is a guy who never said a damn word when Obama and Biden did not give them any offensive weapons.
So he wasn't principled.
He was just left-wing hack in the military.
And then he snuck over and called his friend, the whistleblower, Sarah Malov.
And then the three of them got together with Adam Schiff and cooked up the impeachment.
And the whistleblower never heard the phone call.
He got it second half.
But the point is that Adam Schiff lied and said he hadn't done this.
He hadn't met these people.
So
he's lied under oath.
And
I think, just to finish this
rant,
it's very funny to see all these people on MSNBC and CNN say, you can't have disinformation.
We don't say things that are not true.
We just don't do it.
And then they have the, you know, the clips.
This Rachel Maddow, all she did every night was tell us that the steel dossier was authentic, or they got guests like max boot or an ex-CIA agent they said don't listen to people this this CIA and they they had these anchors saying can anybody actually say there's one thing in the steel dossier that's been proven false yes there's not one thing that's been proven true, not one.
Oh, Victor, how you exaggerate.
Well, I'm exaggerating because James Comey got so frustrated as he was deceiving the FISA court.
They asked Miss Christopher Steele, he got a million bucks.
Million bucks.
Imagine anybody in our audience thinking, hmm, I'm going to make up a phony dossier about Joe Biden completely out of whole cloth, fly to Washington, peddle it around, call the FBI, become a consultant, get paid, and then it's all false.
And then they're going, but I'll have one true thing, and they'll give me a million bucks because I had one true thing.
And that's what, and they couldn't do it.
And that didn't faze those guys at all.
So they really ruined their credibility.
Adam Schiff is at the center of it.
He wants to be senator.
His only
angle is that
he's in California, so it's lunatic.
And they don't care if a leftist is a lunatic because he's one of them.
But he's running, is it Barbara Lee he's running against?
Yes.
And
she's farther to the left than he is.
People in California see that woke has destroyed their state.
She's a wokist.
And
the weird thing about it is that Gavin Newsom wants to be president.
And what's the upside of appointing Adam Schiff
if Diane Feinstein steps down?
What's the upside?
I see no upside
because he's hoisted on his own petard of wokeness.
He's a white male, right?
Upper middle class white male.
What does Gavin Newsom get out of that for a national campaign?
He wants to say that he appointed the first black woman as senator if he's going to run.
So Adam
got outlefted by Newsom and Barbara Lee, but then what's he doing?
He's calling up Pelosi and saying, you know, put Diane on life support, give her,
I don't know, previgen injections, do it, whatever you do, but do not have her resign.
I don't care if she can't walk, breathe, look, get her on a stretcher, but she's not going to resign and let Gavin Newsom make Barbara Lee an incumbent.
And that's be an unfair advantage of me when I run against an incumbent.
It's got to be a free-for-all
primary.
And Pelosi is supporting Schiff, so she says she's doing everything she can, which is why you don't hear in the news that Feinstein is actually going to resign.
She's supporting Schiff, but it's under the guise of Diane and I are great friends.
I wouldn't dare try to force her out.
Yeah.
That's, but it's for Schiff.
Everybody's afraid of Barbara Lee because she hates them.
And they, this is the problem with the left.
They think that just because they're wealthy white people on the bi-coastal elite domain, that when they create people
in their party and they empower people who are racist that happen to be non-white, they think they're exempt.
And they're very condescending and arrogant.
Like, how could you not like me because I'm white?
Don't you know what I've done for you?
And they're saying, well, you told me I could be racist.
So there it is.
If it's you fit, swear it.
And that's what they've done.
And it's always amazes me when I meet, because I live, you know, I work on the coast of California, when I meet white people who are very wealthy, affluent, and really hardcore left.
And then sometimes they'll seek a conversation out with me and say, hey, Victor, you know, Not that I like Trump or DeSantis.
No, no, no, no, no.
But have you been to San Francisco lately?
Yes.
Did you look at who got into Stanford University?
Yes.
Have you seen the empty stores in Los Angeles?
Yes.
Have you tried to drive down the 101 lately?
Yes.
Have you been on BART?
No, I wouldn't do that.
And it's like there's no connection between my ideology and the dystopia or the...
the chaos that was created by it.
But so I can't change my vote, but I'm a little worried that my vote empowered forces that I can't avoid, even with my privilege, money, and influence.
Yeah.
Remember, every time we talk about this, I always remember that interview that Laura did with the San Francisco guy, and he was redoing his house and it was broken in about eight or nine times.
But he did the same thing.
He told her all about all this trouble.
And then he goes, I don't know how to deal with it.
Like vote differently.
Laura was really good in that interview.
And She said, have you made a connection between what's happening and what's happening?
Kind of.
I think there is a connection, yes.
But I have hired a person to sleep in a sleeping bag in my apartment so they don't cart off.
And then he said, it's very troubling because in broad daylight, they just drive up right into my courtyard and they unload my refrigerator and everything.
And the police, they don't do anything.
And, you know,
I don't know what to tell him.
He's,
he's in the Roman, he's in the Roman form about 470 AD, wondering where Cicero is.
And Cicero's been dead for 500 years.
You know, I mean, sorry, San Francisco disappeared.
Yeah.
And the Viscos and the Vandals are here.
And there's nobody to save you.
And there's no civilization.
I'm sorry.
It's gone.
You destroyed it.
Yeah.
And there's nothing going to stop them, which brings me to the other california story which is the senate bill 553
which prohibits employers from mandate mandating employees confront shoplifters you know what they put it in with um armed assailants or something like that i can't remember what the other term was but anybody who is got an arm or shoplifters and they say um confront um what they call them they call them suspected shoplifters So
that's where they stuck it in.
And the other term was active shooters.
So a employer can't expect an employee to confront an active shooter or a suspected shoplifter.
That was passed on May 31st, and it goes into effect January 1st.
I thought it hadn't, has it has it passed the assembly?
I thought it was just gone through the Senate, California Senate.
Yeah, maybe it was just because I can't imagine.
I can't believe it.
I mean, they just shot that security guard at Home Depot not too long ago and killed him for trying to enforce the law.
But
I mean, they shouldn't call it, they should just call it the destruction of civilization law, because that's what it is.
The other one, where it was $950 and it wasn't a felony, that opened the floodgates after the George Floyd and Rayas and all that crap.
And now
you can steal, nobody does anything.
But the idea that
the owner who works so hard and he's got inventory and a guy comes in and just steals and he can't confront him is
crazy.
Why don't they just do this?
Why don't they just say the people in the California Senate and Assembly
for that to happen.
will not exempt their own homes.
So if you propose a bill that says you cannot confront a shoplifter, then the authors of the bill cannot confront somebody that goes into their property and steals their hose, their plants, or goes inside their home and just shoplifts and takes things.
They cannot confront them because that's what they're telling businesses.
Why don't they do it to themselves?
But, you know, we know that left-wing people,
oh, look at Paul Pelosi.
He used a hammer, didn't he?
And
he should have just said, you know what?
My party said you can shoplift.
So just take what you want out of Nancy in my house.
I don't care.
I'm not going to resist.
But they always do that.
They have these two, this weird,
I don't know what it is.
It's just psychological.
They feel so good about themselves in the abstract and they scurry around in the concrete that they're never subject to the
ideological ramifications of what they've created.
You know, it's kind of like what
the Scottish Calganus said about the Romans.
That's in Tacitus when he says about Rome.
He says, yeah, they create a desert and they call it peace.
And they create a desert and they call it civilization or woke or whatever.
They're geniuses, that's for sure, in California.
That's why we see everybody exiting, of course.
Well, let's move on then to a new movie that's out.
The name of the movie is Tar, and
Kate Blanchett just plays
an excellent, she's always just brilliant in all of her movies.
But this is a good six-minute little episode where we do see a little bit of cancel culture coming out of the movie industry.
And I was wondering your thoughts on that.
Some of the times what the left does with films and books and interviews is that
people
who secretly know that wokeism is wrong and destroying things, then they want to convey that message, right?
So they'll make a character who's flawed or doomed or gets knocked off
and
voice what they want as an alter ego almost.
But then they can always say, We made a movie looking how ridiculous she was and you know, sexists, I'm out of time, and she ends up blowing her, I mean, you know, her whole career.
But
they're able to voice things, and that's what you were meaning by that clip, right?
Yes.
And I'll I'll give you an example.
Remember the Tom Cruise,
is it a few brave
when he's talking to Jack Nicholson?
Oh, yeah.
Was it a few brave men?
A few good men.
Yeah.
So that's a left-wing movie, right?
And it's trying to show how bad the military is, a few good men is, you know, it was made
by, it was a left-wing movie movie, is what I'm trying to say.
And yet they understood that the military has to be a little different.
And it has people like Jack Nicholson.
So how do you,
and it's secretly getting kind of tired of legalism.
So what they do in that movie is they put Jack Nicholson on the stand and he's going to melt down and be right-wing and bigoted and crazy, right?
But he's going to do it in such a brilliant way, like Kate, that they get that message across that they secretly sort of, and he says, You can't handle the truth.
I sat out there in the wall out there in Guantanamo, and you sit home, and people like me keep you safe.
He's supposed to, and this is the process of his destruction, but he's trying to show something.
And it's the same thing with the Kane mutiny when
Humphrey Bogart melts down with the little balls, you know, and stuff.
And then
Jose Ferrer is a lawyer, so he comes back in, and you all, you you just know that you can't have a navy with humphrey bogart or can you and then we hear jose far said you know what when you guys were at ivy league and you this guy was in the peacetime navy making nothing and he was on patrol and he did his job and that that's kind of what i think this movie sounds like tar but and that it's a way of putting in the mouth an unattractive character ideas that will resonate with the audience.
Yeah.
Because people are sick of woe.
I think she'll have to be,
she'll have to be like Jack Nicholson and blow up or like Humphrey Bogart and blow up.
Yeah, she does.
You can't, you can't, if you're left-wing, you can't support that type of behavior, but you want to air it maybe just for dramatic quality.
I mean, just for the tense tension, but often it gets out of hand.
The director of Few Good Men had no idea that that thing would go viral with Jack Nicholson.
That That was probably his greatest moment in movie history when he gave that outburst.
You can't handle the truth.
And everybody still says that.
You can't handle the truth.
And so I think maybe this will go viral in the same way.
Yeah.
She says, you're going to judge Beethoven on the criteria of...
you know, whiteness and heterosexual, et cetera.
She goes, every viewer that comes into an audience that you will be performing for will have criteria cards.
Do you want them to have that same kind of criteria card or not?
And that's when he walks out.
So it was pretty brilliant.
Yeah, you know what's coming, everybody.
We know what's coming.
It's like we're tied on a
locomotive track or train track, and we can see the locomotive coming.
And what's coming is that once the left did this and set themselves up as the moral arbiters of good and bad and tasteful and woke and racist,
and they pointed at the establishment or the majority of population of white males or white Christian heterosexual male they just
white supremacy white rage white white white white rage white privilege white supremacy they just kept it kept at it and at it and at it and at some point you're going to start to see people say okay there's going to be one or two reactions you take over you're so brilliant you do it AOC look at her she's a model of wisdom isn't she and
is that what you want?
Or are they going to say, you know what?
Give me the alternative.
And, you know, this happened in the 90 culture wars with when Bill Bennett was Secretary of Education and
Alan Bloom wrote The Closing of the American Mind, and Saul Bellow got political.
I mean, he was always political, but he was outspoken.
And he said something that just, he said, okay, where is your Tolstoy?
Just tell me where he is.
Tell me where he is in Africa.
That's so superior.
Because they were talking about Afrocentrism.
That was when Al Sharpton said,
when those Greek homos were around, the people in Africa were building civilization.
Remember that?
No, I don't.
Yeah,
he did.
Al Sharpton, the great left-wing, tolerant model of probity.
Yes.
You can find so much things he said that were homophobic and anti-Semitic and racist.
And how that guy ever got rehabilitated under Obama, I'll never know.
But
anyway, my point is simply, we're getting to the junction where it can't go on.
And people are going to say, you know what?
Okay.
So people, six million people are coming across the border for what?
To join a country that you say is innately racist from the beginning and horrible and never really developed and corrected itself.
And
it's no better.
Then why are they coming?
Or why don't they just go back if they don't like it?
Or,
you know, why don't you see, why don't you see why don't you see silicon valley in the middle of nigeria why not
and so that's what it's going to go if you're going to say this is all negative negative you know barack obama has been attacking i guess he attacked tim scott did you see that oh yes i did yes he tweeted and i'm going to tweet
something today.
I'm going to have my Twitter expert put it on for me because I've never done it myself.
But what mansion did Obama come out of to tweet or say something about Tim Scott?
Did he say it from his multi-multi-million dollar environmentally unsound,
house-polluting beachside estate that will be killed and destroyed by global warming tidal waves, which he warned us about?
Or did he do it from his 40-acre, $14 million
estate on Martha's Vineyard that's right near the ocean as well, with 2,000 gallons worth of propane tanks.
Or did he do it from his safe, not in the least high crime area in Washington, D.C., Caloma Mansion?
But
I know he didn't say that from his fourth home, his Tony Resco extra lot-size mansion in Chicago.
So he, from one of those mansions, he did a podcast and he attacked Tim Scott, who grew up poor, black and rural, the rural South.
And
the whole, that's all you need to know.
Yeah.
You know, that's all you need to know.
That this guy has been in prep school.
His grandmother worked for a bank.
His mom had a PhD.
He got into Occidental.
We don't know how he got in.
to Columbia because he won't release his transcript.
We don't know how he got into Harvard.
We know how he got in, but we don't.
And his entire life has been based on privilege and exemption and exception.
And
what does he say?
He's saying that Tim Scott, who really did have to make it on his own, had none of those advantages, is somehow less authentic black than half black Barack Obama, who has no experience with
the Black American experience because his father was an African and somebody who was involved in a series of.
auto accidents and things.
So this is what's going to happen.
The more that people criticize the status quo, not that it doesn't need reform, the more people are going to say, you know what?
What have you done?
You tell me what you have done.
I want to hear it.
I want to hear, Barack Obama, what you have done.
So you're
Jeremiah Wright, that's, you know, goddamn America, that guy.
The guy who said that the Pentagon had special weapons that could sent out the Jews had made, that could send out people by their race and were targeting them.
That guy, the guy who, when they asked if he'd seen you lately, Barack, he said, no, dim Jews got him.
And you sat there for what?
You said to an interview with a lost Chicago Sun, as I remember, they said, you really go to Reverend Wright's Church?
Yep, never missed a service.
So if you never missed a service, Barack, you heard the goddamn America sermon, didn't you?
So that's where we're at.
And
everybody's equal under the law.
So, if you put yourself up as a prosecutor and you're going to collectivize a whole group and damn them, then you better be careful because the same thing is going to boomerang back on your tribe.
Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back for the last part of our segment and look at some of the new announcements of going into the presidential race for 2024.
We'll be right back.
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So Victor, we have some new announcements coming into the race, and they'll probably be a week old by the time people hear this, but Cornell West has announced that he wants to run as a third party.
I was wondering if you had any thoughts on Cornell West's
running.
The people who will be against that, of course, are the left because
they're even in the polls.
And so far, so far, there doesn't seem like there's going to be a third party on the right
and when they're 46 46 or we've had two close elections at least in the electoral college a very small number of third party votes as we saw in 2000 with ralph nader can make a big difference in the electoral college and
uh
you can make the argument that even jill stein might have had some effect in the 2016 election so the left is paranoid if he were to draw off 1 or 2% of the black vote, for example.
But otherwise,
he's not a serious figure.
He's very tight with Bernie Sanders, isn't he?
Oh, yeah, he's a good idea.
He may draw more votes than just that.
He could.
I mean, he's a self-acclaimed or self-described Marxist.
And
he's, you know, he's...
I've tried to read stuff he he writes.
I can't write.
I can't understand a word he writes.
I mean, it's, it's, it's kind of
25% half-baked Foucault, 25% half-baked Derrida, 25% half-baked Lacan, and then sort of evangelical Hey Brother stuff laced with it.
And I mean, I think he was the son of a minister.
He grew up pretty affluent, you know, and he's
he's a man of the cloth, but I think he's been married five or six times, you know, that not that third parties don't care about that stuff if you run with five different wives, right?
I suppose not.
Why?
He was famous because Larry Summers was a president of Harvard, and Larry Summers was getting tired of all the celebrities at Harvard that weren't scholars anymore or weren't doing their work.
So he called in
Cornell West, who had done, I think, a rap video, which was a complete failure, of course, and asked him, where was your scholarly book or something?
And that was an insult.
And then everybody said it was rape.
That helped.
That and the comment about women did Larry Summers in.
And then he went to Princeton, et cetera, et cetera.
But
he was not subject to,
let us put it this way, he was not subject to post-tenure review that occasionally, occasionally happens to people, but not often.
So you don't think it's serious, but what do you think he's thinking?
Oh, no, no.
No, I think he's thinking
that
he doesn't like the Democratic Party.
He's got a grudge against Obama.
Remember that he came out early for Obama?
And when nobody knew who Obama was, he was a guy who had run for representative and got crushed in Chicago, right?
And then he ran, he wanted to go run for senator and he was going to get crushed.
So they let him speak, I think, at the 2000,
was it the 2004?
Yeah.
Yeah, the 2004 convention.
And he gave a completely disingenuous,
we are not, we're one country.
That was right during the height of the Iraq war.
We're not red America.
We're not blue.
And everybody thought, oh my God, it's Martin Luther King.
But there was nothing in his background.
That was all false.
That was a facade.
And then he ran for Senate.
And then mysteriously, Sammy, we don't know why, but
his Republican nominee, who was better funded ahead in the polls, somebody leaked his divorce settlement, and somebody leaked a fact that he may or may not have manhandled his wife, and then he dropped out, and Brock was the only one left.
And then he was in the gym.
And somebody leaked stuff about his general opponent.
We don't know who.
And suddenly the, and so he was, well, in that transition from nobody,
Chicago law professor who thought he was a politician going nowhere with Bill Ayers ghostwriting, probably his memoirs.
He wanted to like Cornell West.
And Cornell West was a big guy and
public intellectuals.
And then when he became a senator and he went for president, Cornell West thought that he would be what?
He had a special relationship with the first black president.
So like Al Sharpton, he would just walk, walk into the White House.
And Obama didn't like that.
So when Cornell West showed up at the inauguration with his mother, there was no seat for him,
no ticket.
Yeah.
And he just, and he ended up hating Obama.
Yeah.
That was what was so strange about him.
Yeah, maybe that is the motive then, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he doesn't like the Democratic Party.
And he liked, he would love to, he would love the role that in the 2024 election,
if Donald Trump or DeSantis
either is even in the popular vote or loses the popular vote, but wins, let's say, Georgia or Arizona, say Georgia, and that tips the Electoral College.
And then we find out that they win Georgia by 20,000 votes and that Cornell West got 20,000 votes.
He would love that as a spoiler.
So the Democrats are, they don't like Kennedy.
They don't like him.
And
they'll have ways of dealing with him.
They always do.
Yeah.
All right.
And then just to finish off this podcast um and maybe there's not a lot to say because not many of us know miami's mayor francis suarez and i was wondering your thoughts he also is entering the race and in the republican race for 2024.
yeah these are all pete buttigig type candidates you know what i mean he is and i mean he's got he's not that's an insult to suarez he's actually you know he's a lawyer politician and he's done a pretty good job in miami he's also i think he's in his mid-40s too.
So he's young, handsome.
He's got the Cuban population is behind him.
But
I think he's a little bit too liberal for the post-Romney Republican Party.
And
why is he running?
Because it looks, let's be honest,
if...
DeSantis or Trump get the nomination, you can't have another white guy in the ticket, right?
You're not going to ever again see see Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney.
So you're going to have to have a woman.
So who are going to be the possible vice presidential candidate?
It's going to be Nikki Haley,
Tim Scott.
I like Tim Scott.
I think I just heard him yesterday speak.
He's very good, but I don't think it's very hard for a senator without,
you know, no national exposure to become the president of the United States.
Obama did it, but that was a special case.
Yeah.
Democratic Party.
But I think Tim Scott
would probably be the leading vice presidential candidate for either Trump or DeSantis.
And then
Mr.
Suarez, too.
So a lot of these candidates are running.
I don't know what Chris Christie, the human torpedo, I don't know what he's supposed to do.
His job is to be aimed at Donald Trump and blow him up, I think.
And then he thinks the winner will appoint him Attorney General, I guess.
But there's no other point.
He can't win.
But his job as he sees it, is to blow up,
have a suicide vest and blow up the Trump candidacy, so to speak.
You're talking about this, like that article I read, the anti-Trump cartel, as though there's different roles to play for the Spanish.
Yeah, there is.
Nikki Haley is to
be the sober and judicious foreign policy critic of Donald Trump.
And then she's going to say that.
DeSantis is too conservative or he's tied up in local Florida politics.
but the fact of the matter is there's only one real issue right now and that is
just one issue in this race and that is the natural empathy that conservatives feel for what this government is doing to donald trump vis-a-vis what they did not do to hunter biden what they did not do to joe biden what they did not do
to James Clapper, John Brennan, Andrew McCabe, Hillary Clinton.
They are doing in spades.
It wasn't enough for them to impeach a president twice.
It had never happened.
It wasn't enough for them to try a president as a private citizen, which has never happened.
It was not enough to try to destroy a presidential transition by going after Michael Flynn.
It wasn't enough to concoct the Russian disinformation laptop thing so that Joe Biden could lie in the debate and win the 2020 election.
It wasn't enough for the whole Russian collusion, Mueller just wasn't enough for them.
So they just had to get an indictment.
That was not enough, Mr.
Smith.
So they just had to have Alvin Bragg.
That was not enough.
Then they just had to have Letita Jane.
That was not enough.
Then they just had to have Fannie Willis.
And that's how they operate.
And so the question is, after they go after him so much,
People are getting very, very angry,
really angry about this blatant asymmetry.
To indict an ex-president is one thing we've never seen before, but a force multiplying factors, they're indicting the candidate leading the polls to oppose Joe Biden, which was one of the reasons they claimed they impeached Donald Trump when he had the phone call about Ukraine.
They said it was aimed at his potential rival, Joe Biden.
But my point is this, is we don't know
what our reaction will be as conservatives in six weeks, eight weeks, weeks, 10 weeks, 12 weeks.
It depends on a lot on how credible the, I mean, how adroit, I should say, these prosecutors are in getting the correct jury.
So if you're Smith, you're going to lose in South Florida.
But if you can find one count
against Trump, that he took the stuff out in Washington or something, or it was espionage, then you get a Washington jury.
And I bet you five bucks are going to try to find in those 37 counts, one of them that they can have a jury in Washington.
Because that's what it's all about.
It's all political.
And you don't know what a New York,
Alvin Bragg can sneeze, and they will convict Donald Trump in New York.
Same thing with Letita James.
All she has to do is say, Donald Trump is a racist.
And that's why he overvalued his assets.
All Alvin Bragg has said, Donald Trump is a racist.
That's why he had this campaign finance violation.
And all Letita Fannie Willis says, Donald Trump is a racist.
I got an Atlanta jury.
So they're going to indict him, and I think they're going to convict him very unfairly.
But you don't know the reaction to the Republicans if they're going to say, oh my God, I'm going to fight.
We're going to make sure that we elect a guy who's indicted and we're going to get back and get even.
Or they're going to say, there's an alternative, one of the other candidates, and
we're going, that candidate will get even.
Yeah.
We don't know what's going to happen.
No, we don't.
It's
not far in the future.
So
anybody that says they do is wrong because
everybody, everything
that looks certain the summer before the November, the year before the November election is always proven to be completely
at odds with what actually happens.
Well, Victor, thank you very much for all of your analysis of current events today.
I appreciate your words of wisdom.
I know that our listeners do too.
And thank you everybody for listening.
I mean it's appreciated as always.
This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis-Hanson, and we're signing off.