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So, Victor, it's that simple.

You know, Joe Biden sat there,

talked to Stephanie Rule.

She pressed him a little bit, you know, about his age.

And

I think to me, the most infamous thing he talked about was how proud he was of his son, Hunter, who's up to his eyeballs in scandal.

Victor,

I'm pretty sure you saw the interview.

Would you share your thoughts about it and its ramifications and consequences for these United States.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

You said it was an interview.

I was told that Biden had a press conference that afternoon.

True.

That's what he said.

I said he had a,

are you referring to the interview as a press conference?

If press is a singular, yeah.

Okay.

So that's what he said he was.

And then he sits down and

He has a very, you know, he's defending Hunter and everything.

And then, of course, after the interview, Politico went into all these

outlets, told us what a tortured soul Hunter was and how the Biden family has suffered.

I mean, they have suffered a lot more than anybody, and that they have a close relationship.

But the subtext is, as I've said before, that when you read the Hunter

laptop references to Mr.

10% and the big guy, and the whines about paying his power bill and never being appreciated.

And then you

factor in

the recklessness of his paint with his nose or whatever he was doing canvases that go to unnamed, but we know who they are, people who pay for play.

And that's a very dangerous thing to do given his volatility.

And then you factor in these rumors that his lawyers are not necessarily coordinated in his his upcoming possible indictments with the Biden consortium.

And you get the feeling that even if Biden did feel awkward about his son, he's not going to be in a position to say anything.

Because I think Hunter's relationship with the whole Biden family is,

I got down in the sewer.

And I threw up a bunch of cash and then you hosed the cash off and you bought nice homes and had a nice lifestyle.

But then I was so coarsened by my skullduggery that I ended up with prostitutes and cocaine and hotel rooms.

And then you make fun of me for my crackpipe in one rented car and my gun thrown into

a dumpster and

my missing laptops.

But, you know,

I did it and you're rich.

And that's his attitude.

So I think that came across.

And then Biden just whines.

I mean, did you see him whining about his press conference?

I mean,

when Trump whines about it, at least you can go to a left-wing think tank like the Shorenstein Center at Harvard that has data and showed that of all presidents, Trump got statistically the most unfavorable coverage.

And so if you, I'll give you one example.

If you go Google something, do you remember that guy, Jack Stephen Scully, that was going to be the second debate moderator I'm getting this right in 2020 for CNN and then it leaked that he

had

tweeted to Anthony Scaramucci who was had become a Trump hater after being fired

should I reply to Trump because Trump said he was a never trumper scully was

and then when that surfaced scully lied and said that he'd been hacked remember that he said oh that's not I didn't say that I was hacked and then they fired him.

Yeah.

Well, my point is that when you go back

to that or Candy Crawley in the 2012,

you know, she hijacked that debate and said that Barack Obama had called immediately the Benghazi raid an act of terrorism when he hadn't.

He'd been referring to 9-11.

That was a consequential act of media bias.

I just saw, I just remember, I looked at Romney's face, and he was like a little little hyena that had Obama trapped, and he was pouncing on him because Obama wouldn't, because of the ideological inability to condemn radical Islam, he wouldn't talk about it.

And then all of a sudden, he was sputtering.

Then she just jumped in, said, That's wrong.

No, no, no, he meant that.

And so, my point is that whether it's the debates or the discredited

genre of PolitiFact or Washington Post,

Glenn Kessler, or Snopes, that media, the debate media,

the regular media, um,

NPR, PBS, everything is slanted toward the left.

And for him to get up there and say to the American people that he's been the victim of unfair press is just absurd.

To the degree he has any credibility, it's only because

he is so cognitively challenged that the left that put him on us, the American people who are suffering from him, are worried that it's not going to work.

So they're trying to desperately explore mechanisms to replace him with someone even as left or more left.

So that was really.

And then he said something like his economy.

Didn't he say his economy was better than Trump's?

And so I'm thinking, well, how do you adjudicate that?

Let's just go through the data.

Unemployment, about the same, a little better.

Number Number two, inflation, 2.

Was it 1.6?

And now it

runs by month, 6% to 9%, depending on the month.

Interest rates, I can tell you, I'm helping my daughter try to buy a home.

And it used to be 2.6%, 2.7%.

I think my son has a 2.7 mortgage.

And I'm looking at them right now, Jack.

There's almost 7%.

Man, that's 15-year.

And then

gas prices, $250, $260 a gallon, it's up to $4

nationwide.

I can't think of one economic data point where it's better.

It's all worse.

And so that was what the, and then when you,

I guess, because she did ask some questions, but she never followed up.

She never cross-examined.

She never did any of that.

So,

you know, it's just

what he comes across as is a.

I mean, Trump whines and complains, but after Russian disinformation and Russian hoaxes and the alpha,

you know, bank hoax and the first impeachment and all of that, he has good reason to.

But this guy whines when he's been treated like royalty by the media.

Right.

Just incredible how thin-skinned he is.

Yeah, Victor.

And reminds me of some other, the one interview he gave,

well, this is before, was it before the election or was with Mika Brzezinski that, oh, we're going to grill him.

And it was about how he

had been accused, and I forget the lady's name, you know, his former staffer.

And by asking a question, they feel like, okay, we asked the question, check

it out and then move on, move on to the next question.

And then Biden, remember he said that he knows,

he said i think i think i'm i know more than the vast majority of people he's forgotten more than the most

he's forgotten everything so if he ever knew anything it's all completely gone but for him to say that

it was uh

it was just but a little mockery uh a little mockery of him victor but what you mentioned before maybe you want to elaborate on a little the uh looking looking for an alternative when there really is none but something came out i think it was axios or or Politico about his hours of operation, which we all knew about.

But the fact that

finally the meet is, yeah, nothing today, nothing tomorrow, nothing before 10 a.m., nothing after 4 p.m., nothing on the weekends.

And somebody, I was at the Freedom Works conference

down in Florida the other day, and

somebody read out that he had nothing.

I think in three days,

he had

one event, and it was a photo op.

This is the president, a leader of the free world.

And so that's out there.

But

again, I think

the media checking a box.

It's yeah, I mean, think about it for a second.

Okay,

we have Donald Trump.

I'm not trying to defend or, you know, politically anybody, but here's Donald Trump runs.

And we find out 10 years ago, he had the Access Hollywood hot mic with a Billy Bush or whoever he was and said that you should grab women, you know, want you to grab them in the black.

Okay.

And then we had Stormy and this.

And

so, you know, bring it out.

It's a fair, it's a fair country if you can do that.

But just look at Joe Biden.

So we say, this is the standard, that when somebody is a president or presidential candidate, you bring out everything in his past and you explore them in depth.

And even some of them can lead to an indictable offense.

And then we look at Joe Biden.

And if we're going to do the same

tabloid journalism, do we ever really hear anymore?

Tucker said it.

Remember, Tucker said it on that Joe Biden's daughter had a diary in which she implied that many of her sexual problems originated, that she probably stayed too long in the shower with her dad.

Remember that?

Yeah, it's kind of hard to forget that.

Yeah, and that was never.

And then we had Tara Reed, Reed.

And she said 30-some years ago that she was sexually assaulted and digitally penetrated by Joe Biden.

And she told other people at the time, I know that she's like Stormy.

She said a lot of other stuff.

And then her mother had called in roughly contemporaneously, either to Larry King or some call-in show, and mentioned that her daughter had been sexually attacked by a

prominent.

So there was some credibility, unlike unlike Susan Blasey Ford.

There was confirmation in that sense.

So there was there.

And then do you remember that

Secret Service agents, female, complained that they did not want to do guard duty at the Biden residence because he knowingly and willingly would swim naked and get out of the pool and prance around in front of them?

And they didn't like that.

They felt, you remember that story?

No, I don't.

I don't remember.

Yeah, but I don't, I don't.

And then we get into.

There's no reason not to believe it.

And then we get into the blowing in the hair and the squeezing of pre-teen girls and wives.

And I think the candidate in Nevada asked for a

remember an apology and Biden was forced to give it.

Oh,

he gave that little video and he said.

I think even Kamala Harris said during the debate, she believed Tara Reed.

But anyway, in the video, he was under so much pressure because there were so many videos of his quote-unquote dirty old man shtick that he had to apologize.

Put all of that in aggregate and ask what the media has done with that.

Nothing.

And then when you go into the racial sphere,

I'm getting back to this point when he said to the American people he was treated unfairly.

He's called another aide reference to the NRC.

I think he was a Saudi.

He called him boy again, person of color.

He said that three times now, two to his own subordinates and one to another person, call them boy.

He said, as a candidate, put you in,

as a vice president, put you in change.

As a candidate, Barack Obama is the first articulate clean black.

As a candidate, you're a junkie.

As a candidate, you ain't black.

Nothing, nothing.

The media just covered all that up, or they contextualized or excused it.

So what I'm getting at is that this guy had as much exposure, if not more, than Donald Trump.

But when you, if you were to Google any of those stories that I just mentioned, you'd have to go down to search number 50 to find an accurate account.

And so, he's been the beneficiary of the most biased, bigoted, one-sided media,

the beneficiary of that.

And yet he's on there whining that somehow his 40% rating is due to a hostile media.

It's just incredible.

Well, Victor,

there's another example here of this kind of ground cover that he's getting from the media, which so the story is worthwhile in itself, but the media aspect is also of interest.

This has to do with Senator Grassley and Congressman Comer, who last week talked about, claimed that they have now have a highly credible whistleblower who are demanding documents that are tied to the Biden family, crimes,

allegations of

almost pay-to-play.

It's like

pay to policy.

Donate and

you will get the correct policy.

So pretty significant charges, right, Victor?

If you imagine

if this was a few years ago and Senator Democrat and Congressman Democrat made such charges about Donald Trump, we'd be hearing nothing but.

So the charges themselves here by Grassley and Comer are important.

But then also the little I've seen, again, I was at this conference, but the media reaction has been, ah, how this no, they don't have any, there's no evidence, there's no evidence.

Absolutely.

I mean,

just remember, we live in Orwellian times.

So all of a sudden, during the Trump administration, whistleblowers, Eric Carol Mila, that was his name, and then Vinman's

collusion with Adam Schmidt, that was wonderful.

And don't dare ever question a whistleblower's integrity.

And today, these are all hacks, that whistleblower is a discredited phenomenon.

We can't believe anything they say.

And so

this is going to die like anything else.

And just remember that every institution

that was praised during the Trump administration as contrary or hostile, whether it was the anonymous person who admitted that he deliberately tried to impede presidential orders and bragged there were people at the highest rungs of government that were actively trying to subvert the Trump message, or whether you were Admiral McRaven saying that Trump should leave sooner or later, or another retired general that said that he was

a liar, a Mussolini, dangerous, crazy, et cetera.

All of that.

Just take that and put it in the context of the Biden administration.

And you know that if there is anybody right now who said this left-wing takeover America has to stop, and I'm

every single day with a lot of very high officials, the guy wasn't high.

He was a low-level guy in Homeland Security that was exaggerated as his importance through the New York Times, et cetera.

But can you imagine if

a conservative outlet gave that anonymous person all of that publicity and praise, that he was deliberately trying to basically destroy administration from the inside?

Or if you had a four-star general that came out right now and said Biden should leave sooner or later, he's dangerous.

He shouldn't be near the codes.

He doesn't know what he's doing.

or that he's a liar.

Can you imagine a four-star saying, you know what, I listened to that tape he is a liar he is a mussolini that that would be the end of it they would say you know what you violated the uniform code of military justice article 82 or 88 or whatever it is and we're going to prosecute you they would so that's the times we live in right now they're very scary because you know asymmetry and the the

dispensation of justice.

We saw that Crowdboys guy.

I don't know the details of the sentencing.

He got 10 years in prison for showing up on January 6th and supposedly helping to orchestrate the protest.

But the two law students that threw a firebomb in an occupied NYPD car, they got a year.

It just doesn't make sense.

I believe you spoke with Sammy on the...

previous podcast you recorded the other day about what's going on in new york city with this uh subway

struggle where

ex-marine took down a crazy man and put him in a chokehold.

And he died with today, yesterday, and today, as we're talking real time, May 7th, riots

in the subway system, at least.

That guy, there's no way in hell that guy is not going to be prosecuted or his life ruined.

But the others who helped him, one who happened to be black, I doubt there's going to be any prosecution there.

I don't understand that.

The guy had been arrested 42 times.

He had been, he had three assault convictions.

A Hispanic subway rider just came out today and said that Mr.

Needly in 2019 walked up to him and hit him for no reason in the head, causing him injury.

This guy had been doing that chronically, and he was taking over the subway.

And so Mr.

Bragg will probably, as you say,

prosecute the person who inadvertently killed him in an effort to stop this person's threat and disruption and threats to innocence.

And by doing so, he's going to send a message to everybody.

If you're in a subway

and you happen to be a different race than an African-American, homeless or disruptor, and that person threatens to kill people or hurt people, and you, as a Good Samaritan, intervene as an ex-Marine to subdue him, and anything goes wrong,

you're going to be prosecuted.

And so nobody's going to do that.

Nobody is going to do that.

Why would you do that?

Why would you do that?

You would

no reason to do that.

You would just ruin your life.

This guy's life is ruined.

He didn't try to kill him.

He thought this guy was a danger and had been threatening people.

And the man's long rap sheet had proved that he was dangerous.

And then we have Al Sharpton and we have all of these activists.

And you say, as I said to Sammy, 10,000 African-American youth are murdered each year.

None of those activists shut down the subway over that slaughter.

And I guess the

message is we don't care about young people slaughtered by guns, by others, as long as the people who are shooting them are African-American and not white.

That's all.

And don't tell me, well, it's not that.

It's the criminal justice decisions.

We're asking for about 70% of those murders are not prosecuted because people in the inner city will not risk their lives and come forward and say, that person I saw shoot that person.

So don't, there's no protest about these killers getting away with literally murder.

So it's not the legal issue.

It's the racial issue.

Right.

And that's what.

is very frightening.

And this is the subtext.

The only two people that I knew that had the integrity and the audacity to talk about this was one,

Tucker Carlson, and he was called a racist for it, and Heather McDonald.

Heather McDonald, right.

And she's been physically attacked if she goes to a campus.

And she's got the intellectual courage to talk about it.

She's got a great article in the City Journal about Los Angeles.

And she has the data.

And it's just overwhelming that, you know she shows the percentages of African-American population in Los Angeles and the number that they're represented as perpetrators of violent crime.

And it's just astounding.

And yet, when you look at hate crimes and rare interracial crimes, and you see the so-called white supremacist, white rage, white privileged class committing fewer hate crimes or fewer interracial crimes than their demographics by far.

And you see the people who are supposedly suffering from hate crimes and interracial crimes committing not just general violence at five and six times their numbers in the population, but at least double in the case of hate crimes and up to four or five times in interracial crime, it makes no sense.

You have to be honest and say, this is the data.

You can argue, it's a legitimate argument to argue why that is true.

Why does this particular group commit violent crimes way in excess of their demographic?

You can argue it's the conservative point of view, it's a lack of fathers, it's the great society program that destroyed what was a stable black family unit in the 1950s.

You can say it's racism ongoing or the legacy of Jim Crow.

You can say all of that.

But what you cannot say is that the facts lie.

They're there.

And I only know two people who will even discuss it.

Victor,

one little add-on personal about the subway.

You know, I'm from New York City and

the dangers of the subway have been

persistent for 60, 70 years with a break when Giuliani and Bloomberg were mayors.

But when I

very rare occasions now that I go into the city and even rare when I take the subway, but I bring something with me.

Of course, you can't bring a gun or anything like that.

So I bring a wrench, but it's this dynamic when you're, and I'm not trying to be like this.

Marine, I think, is a very heroic guy that

you're in a car, a crazy person comes in.

You know what you can do?

You can walk through the train, just I'm getting out of here.

Screw this.

I don't need this BS.

But if you're a guy like the Marine and you see, well, but there's a mom here with kids and there's an old lady.

I can't abandon them.

You know, so this is, there's this

dynamic for good citizens

that goes on that, you know, you should, you feel compelled to stay to protect them because there are no cops down there.

The city's lost over 3,000 cops this last year.

Yeah, San Francisco's lost over, they're short.

I don't know if they've lost them all, but they say they're short, 500 police.

And when you go to San Francisco, Highway Patrol is driving around.

I don't know if they can do much, but they're trying to stop the fentanyl.

This is, it's,

it's kind of, as we said, we keep saying this is civilizational cannibalism, suicide.

I don't know what the proper

adjective or verb is, but we are destroying each other.

And

what's tragic, we know what we're doing, and we know it's easily rectified.

All you have to do is say, this is the corpus of jurisprudence.

This person committed a crime.

This person will be arrested.

If found guilty this person will be incarcerated and we did that and it stopped because as soon as you start doing that the person says huh i want to go into a subway and i want to intimidate people and smack them but if i do there's a 75 chance that i'm going to be arrested cut off from my drug supply my homeless people and i'm going to be put in a cell for two years i'm not going to take the risk.

And that's very simple.

Yeah.

And well,

you know, what happens in this cycle is it gets so bad that then they get a conservative traditionalist government in, and they are called racist and everything.

And they start doing things like stop and frisk, three strikes, you're out, and they stop it, like Giuliani, Bloomberg, and California, Pete Wilson, and stuff.

And then

it's safe.

You can walk around New York at midnight.

You can go in Washington, D.C.

at DuPont Circle at 2 in the morning.

You can go to Los Angeles and drive through the downtown with no worries at 3 in the morning.

Okay.

And then people say,

well, this is the natural order of things.

This is the way

it just naturally occurred because people are decent people.

And once,

and you know what?

So now

that these right-wing nuts are always threatening it, we're going to defund the police.

We're going to get rid of three strikes.

We're going to make misdemeanors if you steal under $950.

And it just brings out human nature and it's full.

And then you have

what we have now.

And they never learn.

They never learn.

Yeah.

Well, the abnormal is the virtue, and

what's normal is derided as, well, racist, as you've brought out.

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So, Victor,

we're going to

get back to a little politics with

Rochelle Walensky, the CDC

director, stepping down but before we do that i just like to get a few minutes in here on on budweiser the never-ending story about uh bud light and

you know we had the we had the ad of this dylan mulvaney then we had the uh bud ad director um comment about uh the you know the good old boys are saying it was time to you know give some uh address a different audience for for bud light a mealy mealy-mouthed apology that wasn't an apology.

And now we have yet another apology of sorts because of the declining sales.

And there was an anecdote, Victor, you may have heard of this, the Fenway Park, a Red Sock game.

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Yeah, so away to go, America.

But here's something that the Bud is owned by

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I think he's Belgian.

I'm reading this, I forget where I picked this up.

He's downplayed his company's partnership with Mulvaney to investors this past week, pointing to misinformation spread on social media.

Quote, we need to clarify the facts that this was one can,

one influencer, one post, and not a campaign, Dukaris explained.

Victor, that's not true.

Because after the one can,

one ad, the again, the Bud representative went out there and doubled down on this and mocked conservatives and mocked the good old boys that drink Bud Light.

Yeah, I mean,

Bud has a history also of supporting, you know, let's just say non-traditional drinkers, a long history of that.

But anyway, Victoria.

Well, I mean, if he really wanted to be honest, he would tell the truth.

He would say, this was a serious mistake.

The vast majority of the people who buy Bud Light have serious questions about the entire transgender movement.

We fail to appreciate who is our majority customer.

So an executive brought in someone whose point of view, taste,

values are opposed to the people are doing.

And while we are tolerant, this will not happen again.

Okay, that's all he did.

But it wasn't just that he had these mealy-mouthed, untrue apologies.

At the same time, they were sending out their flack saying, well,

you know, we may have lost, you know, 25%

of Bud Light sales in the last week of April.

It went up, yeah, yeah, but that's.

But given our vast multi-billion dollar food and beverage conglomerate, it represented 1%,

1%.

It was nothing.

And that's what they're telling everybody.

And so for them, they feel, you know what?

Screw those drinkers.

They may, they'll come back, or who cares if they don't?

It's 1%.

Or

so Watt Miller, of course, took over for a while.

But you know what?

We're committed.

They'll never, ever criticize the idea that there are three sexes and that people can transition to the point without their parents' permission under 18 to have radical,

I think we could fair to call it mutilation surgery or that males can compete in females.

They'll never touch that.

And they've made that decision.

So then the question arises, Jack, why?

Why when even if it's not as tumultuous as everybody thinks it is, according to their stats on the worldwide Anheuser-Busch Empire,

why would they cry to do that?

And the answer is that

let's go back to the origins, the fonts, where this started.

And it's basically in the university.

These people who come out of the master's of business...

business administration, you know, business programs, MBAs, they come out of Harvard, they come out of Stanford, they come out of Berkeley, and they come out with a particular worldview that they have imbibed in the university.

And then they get into the corporate culture, and the corporate culture is bicoastal.

It's removed from people in the interior, and they start to have nothing but disdain for the people who buy their products.

And whether it's the same thing with Disney, it's almost carbon copy of what Disney felt about the average family that saves and scrimps and then goes down to Disney World for those that overpriced product and spends $5,000 or $6,000

in two or three days.

They have nothing but contempt for them.

And they get it from this culture that they pick up.

And there's certain checkpoints that the corporate boardroom either embraces or will never question.

Radical Green New Deal.

We're going to get rid of natural gas.

Check.

The transgendered movement can never been questioned.

Check.

BLM and Antifa get a little rowdy sometimes, but they're really great people.

We need to give some more money to BLM.

Check.

That's what they do.

And

I think we're having a reaction coming, Jack, kind of like, you know,

in 1789,

most of the French intellectual and even the liberal aristocracy said that the Bourbons can't go on with, you know, with absolute power.

So in 1789, they said, you know the americans they did that uh they did that over a decade ago and we're going to do the same thing so they did and then they decided they wanted a constitutional monarchy maybe a parliament to check the bourbon king louis and then suddenly the girondists came in and said no no no we're going to go very radical

And you guys that got rid of the king were sellouts because you didn't guillotine him.

So we're going to kill him.

and we're going to go after the monasteries and we're going to destroy the church and we're going to rename.

And that's what they did.

And then all of a sudden the mountain yards at the top of the parliament,

the mountain, so to speak, they said, you, Geron, you,

you're counter-revolutionary.

You're scared.

We're going to name the...

The whole new, it's not going to be 1619.

It's going to be 1789.

That's our new

year.

We're going to change the days of the week.

There's going to be, you know, a decade, not seven days.

it's 10 days in the week.

And we're going to get rid of God.

We're going to have this cult

of

reason.

And then the Jacobins came along and said, you know what?

The Mountain Yards were sellouts.

They're not revolution.

We're going to have the cult of the Supreme Being,

kind of like an Earth Mother God.

And they started killing people.

And same thing.

And so finally, by 17, all the revolutionaries were dead.

Danton, killed, Ebert, dead.

All of them.

They had been executed by the next radical.

And finally, at some point, this is my windy point, Jack, the Thermidor said, this can't go on.

And they jumped in.

And within 36 hours, they had guillotined the Robespierre brothers and St.

Judes and got rid of them all.

And then

where did the revolution end up?

The directorate, consulate Napoleon.

And so what I'm getting at is we are at the point right now

where people are starting to look at the corporations.

They're starting to look at the universities, what happened at Stanford Law School, what happened at San Francisco State, and they're saying, dropping the SAT,

they're saying this can't go on.

These marquee universities that once ensured American preeminence in every field are bankrupt.

If you graduate with a BA from Stanford or Berkeley or Harvard or Yale, I don't believe you're educated.

I can't trust you.

Or if you're a CBS or NPR journalist, I don't think you're disinterested.

If you're a moderator in a debate, if you're a fact checker, I don't trust you.

If you're a PBS NPR journalist, I think you're biased.

So it can't keep going on like it is.

And that's not even getting into the economy, economy, printing money like the

revolutionaries did.

It's just not going to continue.

And I think there is now

a pushback.

And the pushback is being manifested in a variety of ways.

Just think, Jack, all of a sudden, where did Elon Musk come out of?

And then, did you see Richard Dreyfus the other day, the actor?

Yeah.

He was trashing the racially

chauvinistic Academy Award rule, Academy

rules for new pictures.

Equity

requirements for any, yes, for anything to be judged for the Oscars, they have to meet all kinds of mathematics.

I used to be a target of Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald.

They're out there now.

angry.

And then there was Barry Weiss.

And then it's, is it Naomi Wolf?

Bill Maher on occasion.

Yeah, Bill Maher.

Is it Naomi Wolf was praising Tucker?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So my point is they think

what we, as Dr., as I said to Sammy, what we say is Dr.

We're Dr.

Frankenstein.

We made the monster.

Ha ha.

The monster's devouring us.

And we can't,

it's unsustainable.

They're sort of like the thermidors who are saying, you know what?

If we continue down this route,

just

Friday, Jack, San Francisco voted that commission $800

billion in reparations from a city that's bankrupt and with 30% vacancy rate in its business

downtown sections in a state that's looking at maybe $40 billion.

They want $800 billion from

eight generations ago when many of the recipients cannot claim that they had an ancestor eight generations ago who was a slave, nor can they even make the argument that someone they're going to take the money from had an ancestor eight generations ago who was a slave owner.

And that's not,

that's how the Jacobin phase is right now, and it's not sustainable.

And everybody is starting to say, you know what?

It's not working.

The Army is short, 16,000 men.

The Air Force is short.

Maybe it has something to do with these ads with transgendered people that dress up and drag and say, join the Navy.

This is not working.

Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin screaming and yelling about white rage is not working.

Stanford University abolishing the SAT score is not working.

The law school shouting down a federal judge is not working.

This transgendered mob that tried to attack the swimming champ at San Francisco State is not working.

Bud in Disney is not working.

And I think people in Hollywood are saying privately,

wow, this is like Coma Sars.

So they're going to have a quota on who gets roles depending on your race and who not only, it's not only roles, it's always

the directors and all the production staff.

I mean, I don't know how you could, I don't know how you could do that.

I think what you're going to do is, I saw something else just to finish this rant.

Did you see the NBA what they said the other day about their first playoff

final, semifinal, or whatever it was, audience?

They were bragging,

bragging, that they have 4 million viewers.

Oh, gosh.

Okay.

So I went back

to, I picked a year at random, 1998, right?

Right.

So that is

30 years ago almost excuse me 25 years ago

quarter century yes quarter century ago you know what the ratings were for the playoff game

14 million 30 million 30 oh my gosh and you know what there were 60 million fewer americans yeah so we are being told how great the nba is doing

right now

when it has eight times fewer viewers than it did a quarter century ago when there were 60 million fewer Americans to be possible viewers.

And we're supposed to think that there's no cause and effect by that.

And we're supposed to sit there while Mr.

shoe salesman

Nike LeBron James keeps talking about the oppressed when he's making hundreds of millions of dollars from basically servile labor in China, as is Colin Kaepernick, Mr.

Nike shoe salesman Kaepernick.

It's just, it's not sustainable.

And I think everybody is saying, you know what?

Not this.

I'm not doing it anymore.

And I think you can see the only question, Mark, I have is,

what are the traditionalists

and the Republicans and the conservatives going to do about this popular building anger who say,

we're not going to beg the Saudis to give us oil that we have.

We're not going to beg the Bolivians or the Peruvians to give us lithium that we have.

We're not going to have another Afghanistan where we give up all this stuff while we fly the pride flag and have gender studies.

We're not going to do that anymore.

We're not going to give Mr.

Zelensky a blank check.

We'll give him arms to defend himself, but this idea is going on to Moscow why we have no javelins or no artillery shells in our, we're not not going to do that anymore.

We are not going to have an open border.

We're not going to have Majorkis down there this week saying it's secure when he knows it's not.

We're not going to do that anymore.

But then what are they going to do about it?

What are they going to do about it?

Are they going to

Are they going to have a candidate and a slate of candidates that say, we're not going to take it anymore?

And this is exactly what we are going to do with a contract with America.

We'll see.

Well, Victor, you know, one thing the grandees can do is or not do,

and this gets back on a point you just made earlier about the universities, is to stop giving to the universities.

And this is a sore point,

I think, on the right, that so many

conservatives of wealth still subsidize these places that are turning their children and grandchildren and others into communists for some,

I don't know, sick association with the brand.

So that's got to end.

But there is some good news.

You mentioned on the pushback

with Bud or Disney.

And this is, I don't know if you saw the story about,

you know, some of these states have passed these laws about ESG

where the state treasurers are saying, you know what, we're not going to allow our

pension funds or et cetera to be involved with you financial companies, if you are adopting these ESG guidelines.

And Oklahoma, some news just came out the other day.

I think it was on justthenews.com.

That's John Solomon's website for our listeners.

And that's the official home of this podcast.

But 13 companies have seemed to have failed the test, big companies, and they've been called out by the state treasurer.

And so there's this kind of pushback.

I think to me, that's where the most winnable fight is right now, is against these corporations.

I don't see us recapturing the universities.

I think we have to build new universities.

That's a good question, but

they don't own it.

Who says that the law

diversity, equity, inclusion person who's been there about a year and a half, who says she owns Stanford University?

Who says she gets to say that Wallace Sterling or

the founders of Stanford or what Stanford was doing when I was a student there or my mom was in the law school there.

That it's her university.

It's not her university.

It's the alumni who fund it

and it's the

faculty

retired and present.

Same with the administrators.

And it's a larger community that support it.

It doesn't belong to the students who happen to be be there in a transitory fashion for four years, but they got it in their head that they do, they own it.

They don't.

It's not the chairman of the English department who helped found an Antifa camp chapter on campus.

He doesn't own Stanford.

I wouldn't.

I agree with you.

But what about it's

not the trustees of these universities, even those who are quote-unquote conservative, quote-unquote Republican, aren't they in the whole kind of gutless?

Yes, but you know what's going to change?

It's happening, I think.

So you take the board, the corporation that runs Yale or Harvard or all these people, and they get grandees from the corporate world.

And in the case of Stanford, they're all mostly from Silicon Valley.

Okay.

Tom Steyer was on the board for a while, that kind of person.

Okay, so they have all this money.

And they get to be the overseers of the administration.

And the administration pushes, because the students push the faculty, the faculty push the students.

I don't know which is which.

And then they push the administration for these left-wing stuff.

And then the board says, okay, well, you know, I want my kid, my grandkid, I want them all to go to Yale.

They have to go to Princeton.

That's why I'm on the board.

And they get in.

And they're friends.

Okay, that's what, that's the attraction toward it, right?

That's the attraction.

Basically, you get down to it, that's the attraction.

And they want their kid because they want them to stay in the ruling class, the aristocracy.

If they get a cattle brand that says Princeton, Columbia, Harvard, Yale, Stanford on their rear end, then they feel their kid is acceptable and can get into the law firm, they can get into med school, they can be hired at Goldman's, that kind of thing that's how they think.

But what if the very programs and protocols and ideologies that they rubber stamp then filter down through the administration of the faculty and you start to really get revolutionary change?

And just to take Stanford,

such revolutionary change that they have to admit that they rejected 60 to 70 percent, depending on the year, of those who applied that had perfect SAT scores, that the SAT score is optional, but they will not release the median score of those who were admitted, but they will brag about the racial components of those who were admitted, especially 22%

white.

And then two things happen.

Mr.

Pro-Stanford alumnus tells the board member, hey,

I got to tell you, I just gave a million bucks for my kid.

He's a straight A student.

He goes to,

I don't know, you can say he goes to the Menlo school.

He's just, he's a straight A student.

He had a perfect SAT score.

He didn't get into Stanford.

I gave him a million bucks.

What does a board member say?

You got to give 10, sorry.

Maybe, because there's an R.

He's honest and he says, look, there's about 150, 1,600 students.

You get down to 22%.

There's only about 300.

And I got to get my kids in.

I outrank you.

And then there's the football guys.

And then there's the administrators kids and the faculty there's not enough room it's pretty costly the price has gone up you can say that

or the person won't call up because he says you know what I've been looking at these graduates in the last two years

and they have a BA

but they're rude If I hire them, they're going to cause trouble.

They're going to call me all sorts of names.

They don't know how to code like they used to.

If I hire them an HR or PR, they don't write very well because they haven't taken the coursework.

I think I would rather get a person from Pepperdine or Marymont or something like that, St.

Thomas Aquinas.

That's going to start happening.

It is.

It is.

It's going to mirror image what happened with the NBA.

It really is.

These universities are going to destroy their cattle brand.

They are.

Well, back to what you asked about Republicans doing things, and I would think in the university space, it would be interesting to find what states have, quote, you know, conservative governor with Republicans owning, you know, control of both the House and the Senate and applying, focusing on the state university, not private college, and say, and we're going to fight this battle here.

We're going to eliminate this.

crap and get rid of the board of regents or replace the members.

And that to me would be evidence.

It's hard to pull off.

I agree with what you're saying, Victor.

I think a longer-term fight with the prestigious private colleges, but

there are battles to be had at state universities.

They're more important.

I'm just taking the elite.

I'm just talking about the elite, but you're absolutely right.

The state universities are the same way.

Right.

And they're more attuned to public opinion.

And as we see that in Florida.

And

because, you know, Stanford draws on that particular bicoastal left-wing wealthy elite.

Not always, but I mean, they've got a lot of pushback from alumnus, alumni.

But the public systems are, especially as you say, and they're accountable to the taxpayer.

They don't want to fund that.

It's expensive.

I mean, this is another thing we're not talking about is that

there are about 5% to 8% fewer students than there were 10 years ago.

It's not just the demographic pool, but people look at that $1.7 trillion debt and the average graduation has gone from four to six years.

No, we're 50% of the cases.

And they're saying, my God, do I want to run up $200,000 over six years of my life and come out at 24, 25 with that debt?

And then with this degree that people are looking to ask and say, I don't think I want to do that.

So the pool is shrinking.

And at the same, and the universities need that tuition, at the same thing that's happened, they've gone mad.

It used to be in hiring these diversity, equity, inclusion administrators.

I mean, 16,000 people are identified as academic staff at Stanford, and there's only

15,000,

and there's only 16 graduate and undergraduates.

So in other words,

I was a faculty member permanent for 21 years in the state system, and all I heard was the following.

I didn't, you know, I was sick of the faculty union, but I would go to coffee with colleagues.

I would meet people at department meetings, and this is what they said.

Ad nauseam.

You know, you got too many administrators.

They don't know how to teach.

Hey, hey, if they're not any good in the classroom, you know what happens when they promote them to administration?

They get so much more money than we do.

They make too much.

They're just fat.

And then as soon as they get, they build empires.

They have titles.

Everybody hated them.

That was the faculty mentality.

It still is.

So superimpose that

DNA among faculty that now you're going to trump all of those wasted administrators in a way they've never seen before.

So that most people, I mean, if you look at applications on university

listings of posting, they're about...

20% or diversity, equity, inclusion of some kind.

I just don't mean central administration.

I mean law school, business school, school of humanities, specialized.

And these faculty are just simmering.

They're saying, you know what, we don't have enough students.

I'm going to retire.

They're not going to replace me.

My nephew's going to get a PhD.

He can't get a job.

And what are they doing?

They're taking all this money and they're hiring these commissars.

That's what they say privately.

But it's starting to hit home.

And so I think there's a lot of centrifugal forces at all of these private and public universities that are colliding.

And I think it mirror images what's happening in the general population.

And again, the question is

who will stand up and who will be the leader and say, you know what,

this can't go on anymore.

Ron DeSantis said that in Florida.

And Donald Trump said it in 2016.

And, you know, if he would not be tied down with all, you know, he's in a

slur, re-slur, challenge, response cycle now because they have

they've taken their stilettos out and bragged and Letita James and Willis down in Georgia and special Jack Smith.

And the latest is Trump's tweets this last three days where he went after Smith and called him all sorts of names.

And Smith apparently is going around all of the Trump associates and trying to have them flip.

And do you, did you see a video with this?

And we want the video for that and this.

And

that's the playbook.

And I don't know.

And for someone to say to Trump, you've got to divorce yourself from tit for tat.

That's what they want you to do.

They want you to bleed out and tweet things so that they can put a gag order on you or they can say this.

You've got to just ignore it, bite them quietly in court, and then talk about the issues.

And otherwise he's falling into their hands.

So what I'm getting at is who are the leaders?

Is it Tim Scott?

Nikki Haley?

I don't think so.

Who's Duan DeSantis?

Who's going to come forward and encapsulate what we're talking about and saying,

I can lead a counter revolution?

We're not going to do this.

We're not in the 247th year of this country.

We're not going to tell the people who died in Iwo Jima or Okinawa.

We're not going to tell the people people who died at Bella Wood.

We're not going to tell the people who died at Shiloh.

It was for nothing.

No, no, you did all of that.

And we took your country.

You gave us a big, fat, wealthy, leisured society, and we destroyed it.

And we not only destroyed it, we hate you.

for giving us such balance.

That's not going to happen.

I don't think people are going to take it, but we need somebody to encapsulate that anger in a positive direction.

You know, I just think just to finish, I think everybody's been, haven't you been pleasantly surprised by Kevin McCarthy?

Yes.

Everybody said he wouldn't be able to, he is doing what he said he did.

He's trying to bring these people to account, in as much as he can do with a very thin, volatile majority and only one branch of the government.

So there are people who are trying to do stuff, and they need our support.

But

it's really we're in revolutionary times we've been taken over by hard left jacobins the people are angry they don't like what the jacobins have done to the country but they don't have a thermidorian counter response yet there's people on the that were members of the revolutionary parties that are starting to peel off and say to the traditionalists, we disagree, but you know what?

You're right about these Jacobins.

I know them better than you do, and they're scary people, and we got to stop them.

Well, Dr.

You just mentioned.

Go ahead.

I was just

finished because I have to say that.

I was just going to say when

Matt Taibbi testifies

in front of Congress about the excesses of government and social media, and he goes home and he has an IRS notice on his door.

Right.

So there's no connection and nobody cares.

And the people on the left attack him.

You can see that a lot of people are that that has an impression on, especially when you weaponize the FBI and the DOJ.

Well, Victor, you mentioned the revolutionary parties, and I think we should just get your final thoughts about how the revolutionary parties party.

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So, my friend, I have three things we're going to crush into one in maybe just a few minutes, and we can head off into the sunset for this episode.

So, within the last week or so,

week to 10 days, we have seen the Met Gala.

The Met is the big gala in New York City, all the fashion

or non-fashion in the case of a lot of the oddities being worn.

Folks may remember that most, not from this year, but last year when

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wore that gown,

you know, tax the rich.

Then with a few days of that

was the White House correspondence dinner, which is this just

insane.

Now, I must say, National Region used to participate a long time ago.

You bring advertisers.

It was an interesting, fun evening, but it is such an elitist event now.

It's got, people would die if they could not attend this thing.

And,

you know, the after parties.

It's just a big lefty-a-thon.

And then the last thing, Victor,

it's kind of affiliated in my mind anyway, but

Armand White, who's just a terrific, I love Armand.

He writes for National Review, and he has a piece about Bruce Springsteen, who,

you know, getting up there in years.

He's always given concerts.

But the title of this piece is Springsteen's New Glory Days, Anthem of the Elite.

And Glory Days used to have some lyrics that were much about blue-collar

workers.

And they're gone.

The new rendition, he has removed them.

And

this is what just ties in with the other things just mentioned.

Here's what Armand writes.

Not only was that verse omitted from the song's official release recording, but its sentiment was also missing from Springsteen's recent rendition in Barcelona, Spain, where he performed Glory Days on stage with Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, and Kate Capshaw, the wife of Steven Spielberg, serving as backing vocalists.

So here you're man of the people, musician of the people, Springsteen.

They all have gotten so elite.

It's sickening.

Victor, I don't know what.

Can I ask you something?

What was this?

Because I used to,

I like most Ringstream's music.

I don't enjoy what he says, but what was, I remember that song.

It was about a guy who's hanging out with his friends and he starts to reminisce about i guess the high school days and there was a girl that kind of winked at him you know and keeps talking that's a refrain was that what's what's offensive well no here's the lyric that was missing my old man worked 20 years ago on the line and they let him go Now everywhere he goes out looking for work, they just tell him he's too old.

I was nine years old and he was working at the Matutin Ford plant assembly line.

Now he just sits on a stool down at the Legion Hall, but I can't tell what's on his mind.

That lyric.

Oh, that one.

I was thinking of the other one about, you know, the guys that are thinking about the Glory Days.

That one, sorry.

Glory Days.

Yeah.

Well, this is the first verse of Glory Days.

So,

yeah.

Anyway,

but now he's now he performs it with Michelle Obama and Kay Capcha

in the background, doo-wopping it.

It's,

I don't know, Victor.

Anyway,

Steven Spielberg was regretting that he went back and changed some of his

E.T.?

They took the guns out of E.T.

They took the guns and they replaced them with walkie-talkies.

Wow.

That's like being in the Soviet Union and, you know, calling up the Trotskyites and saying, how can I help you erase myself?

I mean,

that's insane.

I don't know what to say.

It's just, it's,

it's very scary because,

you know,

I'll give you one

parallel, and that was Harper Lee's The Kill a Mockingbird.

I always thought that that was an American classic.

classic and have you noticed that now that that's almost like a racist diatribe that call for racial tolerance and integration and ecomenicalism they have really deplatformed her

they've done to her what they did to jk well you know with harry potter right

these people

gosh

When you go back and you look at contemporary accounts of the French Revolution or read what Edmund Burke had reflections on it, and you see what they were doing.

They were toppling statues.

They were renaming streets and buildings.

And I said earlier,

they were doing exactly what we did with the 1619 project.

They went back to year zero and said the foundational date of France was 1789.

Hitler did the same thing, 1933.

And

it's just uncanny that these people

are doing these things.

And then what's final note is

things that should be really embarrassing, that have always been embarrassing to the left.

I'll take one example, and that was the 1937-38 court packing scheme.

Remember that on the FDR?

He had just won a huge margin in the 36th election landslide.

He had the National Recovery Act declared unconstitutional.

So he said,

I'm going to pack the court.

I'm going to make it, I think, 16, 15 judges.

I'm going to expand the lower federal appeals courts.

And I'm going to put my guys in and get them confirmed by all my guys.

And

we're going to make sure that nobody

ever doubts the constitutionality of the New Deal takeover.

And the subtext of that, we remember, was, and even if I'm not successful, I'm going to scare the blank out of the Supreme Court.

So they're never going to rule because I can do it anytime and anywhere again.

And that was a disgrace.

Every major liberal historian, Arthur Schlesinger Jr., you name it, criticized that.

And it was a blot on, it was like the Japanese internment.

It was the dark moment of the Roosevelt administration.

And then now you see websites packed to court.

And the idea that you go out and you attack a judge at his home to influence opinion, that is a felony to do that, to mob at his doorstep so that he will be cower inside and then rule in your favor?

Or the fact that you would leak a preliminary draft of a Supreme Court, that's a felony.

But they're not,

it's objects of pride.

Everybody thought, wow, that was great.

On the eve of the midterm, we leaked out about Roe versus Wade.

We frightened everybody that every woman in America is going to be killed because she couldn't get an abortion.

We sure showed those justices.

And packing the court, hey, Ikeem Jeffries is the House minority.

He came out and said he thought it was a great idea.

I'm thinking, well, why didn't he do that during the 60s and 70s when they had a 6'3 liberal majority?

So my point is we're at the point of such surreal times

that what the left thought was an embarrassment is now a badge of honor.

They have no shame.

It's amazing.

Anyway, shame is the bottom line.

Victor, I'd like to let our listeners know, but I got the Wall Street Journal.

I get it every day.

The Wall Street Journal this weekend edition, May 6th, 7th, has a piece by Gary Solmorrison.

It's on the 50th anniversary of the

publication of Alexander Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago.

And much of what you were talking about, the roots of what is it like to be a

totalitarian regime,

Solzhenitsyn nails it in the Gulag, one of those books that really changed history.

So I want to recommend folks read that piece.

And if you have never read the Gulag Archipelago, it's about time you did, fair listeners.

So we thank our fair listeners for listening.

And I

want to read two comments, Victor, that we've received via iTunes/slash Apple podcast where you can rate the show zero to five stars.

Practically everyone gives it five stars.

And this first

comment, and we do read all the comments, is from C.S.

Madison,

my favorite podcast.

When a new Victor Davis Hansen podcast shows up in my subscriptions, it is the top of my list.

I work through it during my busy days.

Most others I dip into occasionally, but yours always, C.S.

Madison.

Thanks, C.S.

And now, Victor, I have to read this.

I'm sorry.

I just have to do this.

This is from Casey Prescott.

It is not the Jack Fowler show.

I completely enjoy listening to VDH's insights on current events and history.

I find myself hoping that Jack Fowler will just ask a question or request a comment.

I find it annoying when he talks about his life and opinions, but I really dislike when he talks over

David.

I think the meant Victor.

At best, it is rude.

Exclamation point, end quote, Casey Prescott, but she still gave it, she or he gave it five chips.

It makes you feel better when I go, when I go places, people come up to me and say things like, why did you, why were you to Sammy?

You mean to Sammy?

Sammy, and Jack was trying to bring out a point and you cut him off.

Yeah, well,

it is your show.

I'm not worried, but I just, we have to, on occasion, read even non-positive comments.

So thanks to all who listened though.

Thank you, Victor, for all the wisdom you shared today.

Thanks, folks, for listening.

And we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis-Hansen Show.

Bye-bye.

Thank you, everybody, for listening.