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This is Jack Fowler, and I'm the host of the Victor Davis-Hansen Show.

Victor Davis-Hanson is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marshabuski Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.

Victor, there is so much happening politically and with civilization on the brink, so it seems.

And we're going to get to some of that.

We'll start off by

having you elaborate on a column, very important column you've written about this.

The British Revolution is here.

And we'll get to that, your thoughts on the Democratic Party, and much more right after these important messages.

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Victor, I have to apologize to you and to our listeners.

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But

as we all know,

dog is God spelled backwards.

So I think that's

all tolerable.

So Victor, you've written this, I think, really important column, Our French Revolution.

And it links with something you said the other night on

Fox.

You were on Tucker's show commenting on the,

I think it was Tuesday night.

It was after Donald Trump gave his speech at Mar-a-Lago, and there was a little time left, and you were on, and you said something to the effect of there is no more Democratic Party.

And in this column, you write, the Democratic Party ended in 2020.

Victor, would you tell us about the

destruction of the the party, the disappearance of it.

Yeah, I don't just say things.

I try to quantify them if I can.

So when I made a statement like that, and I said something similar in the Dying Citizen, I went back, Jack, and I looked at the 92 Democratic Convention and the 96, and I was astounded.

Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi gave ringing

denunciations of illegal immigration.

They said it was illegal.

It hurt the constituencies of the Democratic Party that were union lunch bucket voters.

And it was clear.

Bill Clinton bragged and bragged and bragged about he was in support of the military.

He said in 92 that, remember that 100,000 police officers on the street?

He said the best thing that would be possible for the inner city would be school uniforms and more discipline.

And I mean, you can say it's insincere, but they made the effort to be insincere, is what I'm saying.

And maybe they didn't turn out like that.

Sister Solja, also.

And he supported Sister Solja when he called her down.

And if he did that today, they'd arrest him for racism, I guess.

And he also, they were for more energy development.

And

this so whatever this is, and we've talked about it at length, whether it was the long-term erosion

of the Democratic Party or

liberalism into progressivism, into wokeism, into Marxism, into communism,

whether that was because of the bi-coastal elite or the huge amount of cash that was in the hands of the very wealthy left, or the bi-coastal elite

really warped globalization and forgot the right.

I don't know, but the more immediate triggers were George Floyd, 120 days of exempt rioting, larcen, looting,

murder, and the COVID lockdown.

It created all sorts of problems.

And then, of course, the phenomenon of Donald Trump, where they went completely hysterical.

But we are in a bad situation right now.

We are fiddling on these issues that we're going to talk about today, transgenderism or the Trump trials.

And why we're fiddling, this administration has allowed

Sunni and Shia Muslims to unite.

And you just saw it today where Mr.

Erdayan in Turkey said it's time for Muslims to unite against Israel.

And we have Iran working with Russia on drones and Russia with a wink and a nod allowing Iran to step up its terrorist,

its surrogate terrorist attacks on Israel.

with veiled warnings of Israel about retaliation.

And then we've got the bomb looming, and we're going to see a bomb on the, I think, during the Biden administration.

And when you get China and Russia and Turkey, and maybe India, Japan says it can no longer honor the sanctions, they have done the impossible.

In two years, they have destroyed through Afghanistan, through that anchorage summit with the Chinese, through the tolerance of that spy balloon, through terming the Ukrainian possible invasion as a minor incursion, through the beseeching of Vladimir Putin not to hack hospital, but by implication, the rest of it at all.

And then

we have these economic,

I don't know what the left would call them, bombshells.

I mean, banks failing and high interest rates and high inflation, and no one knows how to stop it.

So we're fiddling with

all of these things are going on, and we're talking about what, transgenderism, we're talking about,

we'll talk about it.

The Louisiana state athlete wants to go to Barack's house rather than the Biden house.

And meanwhile, the entire downtowns of America have been nuked.

So it's really frustrating to see, and I keep bringing in this Constantinople metaphor because I'm writing this chapter and I'm reading contemporary accounts in Italian and Byzantine Greek.

And it's just

so scary.

I mean, the people are on the walls fighting these Ottomans who completely lie to them and say, we didn't want to take Constantinople.

We'll let you live.

Let's have a deal.

And then Mehmet, you know, invade attacks the walls.

And then what are they doing inside the walls?

They're arguing over biblical exegesis with the Venetians and the Genovese.

And they're trying to unite Christendom under one for the whole months leading up to that.

And they can't do it.

They're fighting over the Holy Ghost or the divinity of Jesus.

And it's just sad.

And it's very similar of a civilization that just implodes like the Byzantines did after 1,100 years.

This is really scary, what's going on in this country.

And we'll talk about the details today.

Well, here's a detail, Victor, and I didn't tell you about this ahead of time, but you probably know this.

This is a

piece from City Journal by Soledad

Ursua.

This is just from yesterday.

Prescription for mayhem.

Los Angeles officials propose ticketing rather than arresting violent criminals.

So

it begins with this.

On the night of April 4th, three suspects connected to a carjacking and shooting crashed a car in my neighborhood of Venice Beach, taking off on foot.

For hours, sirens wailed, choppers flew overhead.

Police warned residents to stay

indoors, given that the suspects were at large and likely armed.

According to progressive ideology, these long and difficult manhunts could be avoided altogether if Los Angeles County would move to a site and release policy.

So, Victor, you just said the cities are turning to hell holes.

And now, carjackers, murderers, instead of being arrested and brought to court, are supposed to be given a ticket and asked to show up in court.

This isn't yeah, I mean, it's already happened.

I mean, we've talked about San Francisco, Jack.

I've got to go there.

I've got to go to a meeting on Monday morning.

And I'm not looking forward to driving up there and downtown.

But my point is these cities, Baltimore, Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington, New York,

they're turning it over to the uncivilized and the people who are civilized are leaving.

There's a good map of California came out today.

I think Stephen Hayward had it in Powerline.

And it shows you not just the 500,000 people that have left California in 18 months, but the ones that want to keep in California for family, where they go, they all are leaving the coast and they're going into the foothills, mostly around Sacramento, but somewhere where we live as well, and then down toward the Palm Springs deserts.

It's just like the late Roman Empire.

People are leaving the cities because they're not safe and they're trying to find, I guess,

fortified

places out in the middle of nowhere where they stock up and they're ready for Armageddon or the apocalypse.

But it's stunning how these people have destroyed these cities very quickly.

And it's not far-right people, Jack, that are leaving.

These are utopian liberals that voted for all of this stuff.

They vote for Gavin Newsom again and again and again.

And, you know, not to get off topic, but we're going to talk about the Tennessee legislature in a minute, but

three of their own legislators stormed in January 6, if I could be so

graphic, fashion.

But they were protesting against firearms.

And yet, you just pick up the paper today, Jack, just random stories.

There was an Asian woman in a hotel room in Washington,

and a person went down the hallway, found an open door, went in, and killed her with a knife.

Paul Pelosi was severely beaten with a hammer.

There was one of the

cash app guy stabbed to death.

Yes, and the cash app guy,

he was stabbed to death.

And yesterday, I just saw a sorry, the fire commissioner.

Yes, the former fire commissioner was hit with a spiked rod by a homeless person, a lot of them, and then he was stabbed.

And then let's not forget Ron Paul's aide that was almost killed in Washington.

He was stabbed.

And so

they're talking about automatic handguns, which are really the citizens' only defense against this,

and AR-15s especially.

There's the most high-profile

violence in the last week has all been by,

I don't know what you would call it, knives or metal bars or something.

The other thing is, and this is going to be very controversial, is that I was just

listening on a couple of YouTubes.

And when you mentioned the Venice, I saw that.

And I saw what people had been saying in Washington, D.C.

as well.

And it's all predicated on race.

They keep saying that people of color are unduly

singled out.

Isn't that the driving force behind this, the subtext, that they want to decriminalize because they feel that the majority of the offenders are black or maybe Hispanic?

But what gets me about it is they don't want to talk about

interracial, which is only seven or eight.

But in the case of

we don't know who hit the tech executive, but it's very mysterious that nobody's talking about the offender.

I mean, they're talking about all these graphic videos of him crying out for help, but there's no inference.

But my point is, Rand Paul was stabbed by an African-American guy.

Very rare.

It happened.

There were three young girls.

Did you see that in Florida?

And they tried to dabble with some black gang members and they were all executed.

They were 15, 16, and 17.

Nobody said a word.

And I'm not, I'm going to, what I'm getting to is I'll say in a minute.

Right.

And then

we had this Asian woman who was stabbed to death by a black guy.

So those are three right there.

And we don't know who hit all of the people who hit the fire commissioners.

I think the main perpetrator was probably a homeless white white guy.

We don't know who hit the tech, but my point is: in this climate, every single one of those

had that been a black aide to Hikeim Jeffries and a white MAGA person hit him, there would have been an outrage.

If those three girls had been hanging out with the Proud Boys and they had executed three black girls, there would have been an outrage.

If you had seen

Rand Paul, as I said, or if there had been a black girl in a hotel and a white person drifted in, and these people all had records, by the way, they were let out, and that person executed that, stabbed this black, that would have been outrageous.

So what I'm getting at is at some point,

the left has to say, look,

Our cities are becoming wastelands.

Part of it is Zoom, part of it was a COVID, but a lot of it is homelessness and crime.

And right now, 55% of violent crime is committed by about 4% of the population, black males between the ages of 12 and 20.

And we don't talk about this.

And it's a legitimate discussion to say this is because, Victor, you don't understand it's one-parent homes that were ruined.

If you're on the right, you say it's one-parent

homes where there was no father because the welfare system destroyed what had been a pretty stable black family phenomenon in the 50s and early 60s.

Okay.

Or if you're on the left, you say it's the legacy of racism and neglect and

okay.

But my point is it's there.

Whatever the exegesis about the cause is, it's there.

And you're never going to lower the crime rate unless you address it.

And it starts to go down when you, and we have right now full black employment.

It's the same, it's even almost the same or better than during the Trump administration.

So there's a shortage of jobs.

It's not that people are discriminating by color or race for people who want to have a job, but there's something that I don't understand.

And that is why the left

does not address this.

So when you had the two legislators in Tennessee who were expelled from the legislature, there were three, two were black, one was white, for disrupting it and grabbing and pretty much hijacking it.

They pretty much did to this Tennessee legislature what the dean did in Stanford.

Same thing at the law school.

And they were expelled.

The black caucus went crazy.

Joe Biden, he's inviting them to the White House.

Camilla Harris went straight there to demagogue it.

But nobody says a word.

When

a senatorial aide is almost stabbed to death, or a woman is executed in Washington, D.C.

in a motel room, or a tech executive is stabbed to death and murdered, or three girls are systematically executed in Florida.

And

I don't understand.

Why doesn't somebody say this is maybe we should ban knives or bars?

Or cannot we have a discussion how to

lower the crime rate as far as both hate crimes where African-Americans are double the numbers in the general population.

And that's directed, by the way, mostly, mostly,

not at white people, but

at Asian Americans, and then ethnically or religiously at Jews.

Nobody says a word, and no one says anything about being overrepresented by a magnitude of four to six, depending on the violent crime.

No one says a word.

And yet, that topic is the subtext for mass flight from the inner city that nobody wants.

Nobody talks about the black on black genocide in Chicago or Baltimore or Memphis.

But the thing is, that single issue explains a vast demographic flight.

And you can call it, well, white people are racist.

I don't know.

I don't care what the reason is.

I'm just telling you that it's a cause and effect.

And the left has no credibility when their answer to any violence is not to look at the number of people who have been stabbed to death in just this week, nor do they talk about the racial element and the overrepresentation of crime.

And Jack, all they do is count data.

All they do is that this is disproportionate.

We have to have proportional representation.

This group is disproportionately represented.

We have to have the government address.

So that's their value waiting.

That's what they care about.

And yet they will not talk about this.

And if you really want to stop crime,

you would go after that problem.

But do you, that presumes the possibility that, you know, at some level, they may want to reduce crime when I just think more and more the objective is

pure chaos.

And

you get the chaos you want to do.

You can do it when you don't reduce crime, when you allow crime to flourish.

I think what they're doing is every, because what was the Texas legislature, I mean, the Tennessee legislature about?

They stormed it over gun control, but it was very ironic because the six people that were killed were killed by a transgender person whose manifesto hasn't been published yet, still suppressed.

And we just had one in Colorado where a transgender person was planning to murder a lot, and we suppressed that.

And then we suppressed the story, Jack, that came out finally that the potential assassin of Justice Kavanaugh, who showed up armed, remember him?

He was transgender.

So going by the name of Sophie.

Yes.

And we had the takeover, a mini-takeover of the Texas legislature, where a transgender person tried to fight with the sergeant of arms to let another person speak.

And so,

what I'm getting at is that

we're what I'm getting at is that we are told that there is a need for gun control

because of these six people.

But if you look at what the left's narrative are, it's almost as if they deserved it because they were conservatives and Tennessee was trying to suppress transgenderism.

So the answer then is gun control.

Gun control, gun control, gun control.

spirals out of control, the calls for gun control

spiral out of control.

And we know that in Chicago, it's one of the, and San Francisco, it's one of the

strictest places in the world to have a gun.

And we know that each time these shootings occur, the person who shoots, A, has a record, and to the degree he's caught, has a gun that he stole or he bought or it's a ghost gun or something.

So it's not a matter of the law, it's a matter of enforcing it.

But ultimately, you ask, why this obsession with destroying the Second Amendment?

And here you've got to go to the conspiracy, people who were written off as conspiracy freaks, but they're not.

What they are saying is the purpose, what the left wants to do is to have all of the weapons under its control.

And then politically, it can choose and pick and pick and choose which particular crimes it's going to use its monopoly to enforce and which it's not.

And so if there's a lot of inner city crime and there's a lot of people being shot and the left has barred people from having weapons, then the left says, well,

we can enforce this or we can't enforce it.

But for us to enforce it, there are certain things that we expect of the electorate.

And that's what is so scary about all this.

Victor,

you have called these

folks of the left Jacobins and revolutionaries,

sometimes Marxists.

I think Marxists is the, I think Stalinist is probably

the right term may sound far-fetched in a conversation,

but there's so much that Stalin did that tracks what's happening here, tracks what Mao

did.

And the destruction of cities and the deaths of people are meaningless to these sons of bitches.

It just is the chaos.

Again, I'm repeating myself.

Chaos matters.

And we've talked before about many times about BLM, the organization, kind of as a, in part as a shakedown operation.

But that truly is a Marxist

organization.

And they merged with the Marxists to say race is the edge of the wedge for the chaos that we want.

It was also one of the most corrupt shakedowns we've seen in 50 years of corporations.

Even the Silicon Valley Bank was giving them money.

They never accounted for it.

If it had been any other group, there would have been a federal racketeering charge and they would have subpoenaed their books.

That's what's also scary.

There's such an asymmetry toward the application of the law.

And you can imagine when Joe Biden, the reason he pushed through these 88,000 IRS agents, you know who they're going to go after.

They're going to go after the small entrepreneur, small business person.

They're not going to go after the Salma Swap meet where you look down the state franchise board has given them a

pass.

They're not going to go out on any intersection where I live, Jack.

And yesterday I drove into town and you can see everything for sale.

Easter flowers, Easter food,

everything,

everywhere.

And there's no sales tax collected.

And so my point is that

all of these new measures are designed.

for a political purpose.

And I don't think the Democratic Party quite did that.

They always wanted to, but they never quite did that.

And now

it's a process.

It's not just a political agenda.

They want to change the process by which we conduct politics and elections.

And they're doing a great job.

They don't care, as you said, about violence.

They scan the news.

And so they look at the news and they pick up the newspaper or the text on their screen and they say, hmm, Rand Paul's assistant was almost stabbed to death by a career black felon.

Hmm, no use for that.

Let's just skip it.

Hmm.

Three girls who thought they were going to flirt with gang members or involve themselves were executed by three black teams.

Nope, nothing in that.

Hmm.

Let me go to the next Asian American girl, another victim of a hate crime, perhaps stabbed to death in her hotel room by a black itinerant with a long felony record.

Nope, no use for that.

Tech mogul

stabbed to death, out in the middle of the street, begging for somebody to help him save his life.

We don't want to talk about that.

And fire commissioner,

ah, wow, I guess he was trying to help his mother get drug users out of her garden or something, but he was almost clubbed to death.

No use for that.

That's how they look at it.

But any other thing?

Oh,

three people stormed the Tennessee legislature and they voted, but they only voted to get rid of the people who took the podium with a bullhorn.

Those were two African-American legislatures.

They didn't go after the white woman.

They're racist.

We have to get them in the White House, and we've got to get Kamala Harris down there to demagogue this issue.

And then you think, why would she go down there?

There's two reasons why she shouldn't go down there, Jack, because during the May

2020, June, 2020, August, September, she said, this is not going to stop that violence.

Remember that?

While her aides were funding bail.

Yes, she paid bail for felons that were riding and committing arson.

And she said, right before she was nominated, this shouldn't stop.

It's not going to stop.

It shouldn't stop.

She said that on national TV.

And then after January 6th, she said, this was an insurrection.

This was an insurrection.

It was an attempt to take over a legislative session.

And there were not people in session during there.

There were people

prior, I suppose, that were ready to, but they didn't storm in while people were voting.

People left their offices.

This thing was in session, and

it was an insurrection.

According to, I don't think it was an insurrection, but according to their own definitions, she should keep quiet about this, either keep quiet about it or condemn it.

Yet she goes down there to demagogue it.

It's really scary because

she's victorious.

can you imagine her as vice president sitting in the chair as the president of the Senate, which is one of her roles, and somebody, some debate going on, and Ted Cruz just starting to yell about, or

pick a conservative Republican protesting, maybe even with the bullhorn?

Can you imagine Kamala Harris allowing that protest to happen in that legend?

But what she's doing is she's trying, because she's an incompetent nincompoop and she's failed on her foreign policy portfolio.

She's failed at the border.

She's trying to become high profile as an activist for the base.

So she's taking these issues and she's trying to be a high profile,

in this case, racial demagogue.

And Joe Biden doesn't know where he is.

So somebody says, you know, we should, we got in trouble because Jill opened her mouth and offered the mostly white Iowa team an invitation, as well as the victorious LSU, mostly black team.

That didn't look good.

The black girls got mad at the white girls.

They both got mad at us.

So let's redeem ourselves by having the two black legislatures go to D.C.

That's what the idea was.

And, you know, what's really funny is that you're starting to see now, Jack, the very beginning

of a Republican change of strategy.

You saw it with Kevin McCarthy when he took over the speakership and he started getting rid of people like Adam Schiff and Swalwell off committees in retaliation for what they did on January 6th committee.

And then we're seeing this Texas legislature, they haven't done this, I don't think,

since the early 20th century or maybe 19th century, actually following the law and expelling people.

And the left is howling, howling.

And they will keep howling until there is some symmetry

reachieved.

And

the only way you're going to apparently achieve symmetry is that you're going to have to remind them of that what they're doing is always going to earn a counter-response.

And when you get a counter-response and they don't like it, then and only then will they cease.

And the question that I have is: can that tit for tat

or tat for tit, can that be contained within the norms of political processes?

I'm not sure.

It's getting pretty scary.

Yeah,

I don't know.

I think we're in a, we are now in a different

crossed into some different era in America.

I think it started with Barack Obama.

It did.

Because we'd never seen a president go in there.

And during that campaign, when he said,

I want you all to get in their faces.

And then when he said, I want you to take it, he took that David Mammet line from the untouchables.

I want you to,

I think it was outside Philadelphia.

He said, we bring a gun to a knife fight.

He said that.

And then Michelle said, I've never been proud of my country until then.

This is a damn, what you say, a downright mean country.

And then she said, they always raise the bar on people like us.

That whole rhetoric fed in, and then the fundamentally transforming the country.

And then we had Eric Colder, who basically fired all of the the career prosecutors and put in activists, and then just told the Congress, I'm not going to tell you anything about Fast and Furious.

We may or may not have kind of planted the guns and started it, and it went haywire, but I'm not going to talk about it.

You can subpoena me, hold me in contempt.

I don't care.

I'm not, he could have said, I'm not going to be like Steve Bannon.

You're not going to arrest me.

And that's what he did.

And that administration started the whole thing off.

It really destroyed racial relations, it destroyed norms, and then it got people very angry.

And Donald Trump came in and he said, you know what?

The Romney-McCain response doesn't work to these people.

And that's where we are now.

Yeah, maybe I wonder how conscious it was, Victor, to

play the race card at that time, because as we have discussed before,

the healing of America's racial wounds

had continued apace, just looking at intermarriage as a sign of the lessening of tensions.

And no one could say in 2008,

when Obama was elected, that things were worse racially than they were getting.

No, they were getting better.

You're absolutely right.

There was more assimilation.

There was more integration.

All of the key categories of economic achievement were going up.

Obama did hurt the black cause because his response to the 2008 measures was anemic, and we got into a recession that was prolonged that we didn't need to do.

I know shovel-ready jobs under Joe Biden wasn't a good idea,

but Obama fed this.

Remember, he said Trevon Martin

looks like the son I never had.

And as I said, that would be like Bill Clinton talking in the middle of the OJ case and saying, she looks just like the daughter, a a second daughter I never had.

Nobody would do that.

And then he went into the Skip Gates thing and said that the police were stereotype.

And then he went after his grandmother and said that when she heard a black person walk by, she clicked the door closed.

And it was just constant, but it was all done with a mellophilous delivery.

And he was the darling of the utopian left because he had the same values as the Martha's Vineyard Malibu crowd.

Basically, he was in that presidency for one reason, to become a celebrity and to cash in big.

And he said that on two occasions subtly.

He said, you know what?

They asked, what's your biggest fault?

I'm lazy, he said.

And then once he said, I'm not just going to be president just to make a bunch of money and retire rich, which was a Freudian slip.

He's exactly what he wanted to do.

Projection, right?

He's where he is.

He's where he's always wanted to be.

It's so funny because they're after Clarence Thomas now because he went with Harlan Crowe on some vacations.

Okay.

If there was a violation, then he should be chastised, but they're going after him.

They want to destroy him.

And this is, you remember from 2009 onward, Barack Obama could not spend a summer without going to Martha's Vineyard and hanging out with all those wealthy people.

That's all he did.

That's all he did.

And he was always either getting a free place or getting a subsidized rent from these people for the summer.

That's all he hung out with was wealthy people.

And nobody said a word.

It was just, it's crazy.

And I think, you know, I don't know.

The left is really trying the patience of people when they continue to do this.

And

I don't know where it's going to happen, but it's starting to affect the fabric of civilization.

These are not esoteric political back and forth or arguments or contentions.

These are real issues.

Do you go into downtown Baltimore?

Can you go into San Francisco for the evening for dinner downtown?

Can you drive on a California freeway?

Is it safe to do so?

We are having a flood-level snowmelt.

We are going to lose 200,000 acres of the most rich fertile farmland because someone somewhere who we know, i.e.

Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom, refused to use a lot of money to create reservoirs, to store this stuff, because they claimed we would never need it because we were in a perennial drought.

And

so, what I'm getting at is this ideology is starting to affect the way we live.

It's not safe, the infrastructure, and we've gone through this so many times, Jack, with rail car derailings and near-misses with the airlines and

law schools.

I don't think Stanford Law School exists anymore.

I really don't.

Hans Van Spotsky had an article about their curriculum, and they're not teaching enough of the courses that would make a person a capable lawyer in the real world, contract law, or bond law, or tax law.

And to the degree they're called tax law, they're sort of bankman-free type of

politicized weaponized, you know, about how the poor are being ripped off, but they're not giving the essentials necessary to have a cadre of legal experts in the country.

We could go on there for the military and everything.

It's so weird how we all thought this country was so resilient and it's

winding down so quickly.

Yeah, Bismarck was wrong.

God protects fools, drunks in the United States of America.

And maybe the last part of that doesn't seem to be

hanging in there.

Well, Victor, we've got a few more things to talk about, and let's pick up on what you already mentioned about Jill Biden and women's basketball, and we'll get to that right after these important messages.

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So, Victor,

about basketball.

Now, I live in Connecticut and Connecticut has always been, of all the states in the Union, we're probably the one that cares most about women's basketball or the Lady Huskies at the University of Connecticut year after year won.

Not this year.

They didn't even make it to the Final Four this year.

And women's basketball is probably the most premier sport of women's college sports, right?

Okay.

Which have now been invaded by men in swimming, not basketball yet, but I don't doubt that in a year or two we're going to see men

playing for

colleges.

So the championship was between Louisiana State University and Iowa, and LSU won.

There was some tension, some trash talking on the court in the final games, a couple of games, that people saw through a racial lens.

My wife, who played basketball, thinks it's just trash talking, but like many things in America got quickly racialized.

Jill Biden injects herself into the situation by

trying to

amend tradition.

The tradition is the winner of these tournaments tend to visit the White House.

Well, she wanted to invite the runner-up, Iowa,

which was the, let's put it in the racial context.

That's the white team and LSU is the black team.

And LSU took this poorly and also came out that Jill Biden had wanted to

visit the locker rooms of both teams before the final game.

And she was denied, at least by LSU, I don't know if she went to Iowa, because Joe Biden had

picked LSU to perform poorly in the tournament on some bracket, whatever.

So

there is this tension in the air, back and forth.

LSU is going to go.

Iowa said, No, you know what?

We're going to stick with tradition, only the winner goes.

So, they there was some degree of sportsmanship, but it was kind of overwhelmed by a lot of racial tension.

Yeah, I mean, I always think when you go down that path of racial chauvinism,

so what would happen?

Imagine, Jack, that Barack and Michelle are president and first lady.

This is the 2012 finals,

and Iowa beats LSU.

Michelle is watching the game and says, you know what?

I think that

this was really

amazing effort on both sides.

And although maybe we usually have the winners, let's have both.

They'll both come.

And then the star player on the white Iowa side says, you know what?

That's a joke.

We're not going to go to the white.

We're not going to go to Barack Obama's White House.

No way.

We're going to go to Donald Trump's Trump Tower.

He's probably going to be president in four years.

Or we're going to go to, who?

We're going to go to Mitt Romney's house because there wasn't a Democratic president at the time.

I mean, a Republican president.

What would happen if they did that?

People would get, they would just say, you're a racist.

You can't just turn down the Obamas because they're black.

And they would say, well, no, we're turning them because

we won and they're bringing in the LSU team oh you don't like the LSU team because they're black no I because because we're the winners yeah but you said that you wouldn't go if because they played hard michelle thought they should play do you have an objection to that oh no but then why are you just saying you want to go to a white

something equivalent called the white white house you see what i mean that wouldn't that would have been an outrage the reason i'm saying this is not to incite racial division, but to heal it.

And what I'm trying to say is that in the year 2023, there is a lot of parity.

And you can see it in

the minute from entertainment to sports to commercials to per capita income to black women's salaries.

We're getting to the point where you're getting close to parity.

And yet the divisiveness is increasing geometrically the closer we get to parity.

And it's becoming racialized to a degree I have never seen.

And the only thing that I can think of is in each one of these cases, people have to imagine what would be the response otherwise.

And if the response would not be the same, but it would be different,

then you've got a problem.

And I think that's the problem right now: that

the leadership of the black community feels that after George Floyd, it has prerogatives that are not to be accorded to the Latino population, the Asian population, the white population, along with the transgendered community, those two groups.

I don't think they're compatible according to polls, but

that has a shelf life that's finite because nobody in the United States gets a pass.

And when you get

a pass and you don't apply standards, whether it's the Sorrels-funded DAs allowing people disproportionately of color to commit crimes and be exempt on the idea that they're victims of a racialized justice system,

or when you look at admissions that are becoming compensatory admissions at our elite schools where people of particular races are admitted without SAT scores, but at greater

percentages than their demographics, then you're going to have greater, not lesser, tensions.

And the other thing I don't understand is the word white prior to 2018, or maybe it was not a pejorative, it was a neutral.

You could say, oh, he's a white guy, or the white community voted, or you'd be an NBC commentator, and you'd say, well, this group is mostly suburban white women, so they're going to vote this way.

It's not any, it's an exclusively pejorative term.

And you turn on, it's white supremacy, white rage, white privilege, white, white, white.

And then you're supposed to,

you know, what I don't understand is you're talking about 260 million people.

And you're putting together Greek Americans and Arab Americans and Italian Americans and Finnish Americans and Portuguese Americans with all different types of ethnic,

I don't know,

white Hispanics.

Yes, and you're putting them all together as a

culpable group in the worst stereotyping that the left is so sensitive about.

And then you're going to say, well, Victoria, you're just worrying about a bunch of privileged ones.

No, I'm talking about millions of them that are living below the poverty line in places like East Palestine.

And I do believe that if

there had been a natural disaster

with

a supposedly greedy rail company who took shortcuts, I'm not sure they did, I'm just saying that, but it did to East Palestine, to a black community, I'm sure that Joe Biden would have been down there in a second.

And the thing was, is when you saw Pete Budget, he had contempt.

It was the same kind of contempt that appeared in the Lisa Page Peterstrz textual exchange about smelly people, or that CNN person that went to a Trump rally and said,

I have more teeth than everybody in this rally.

It's the same thing.

And it's, I don't understand what's going on in the country, but it's become open game or fair to attack

a group based on their race.

on the supposition they're privileged and they're culpable, but they're not monolithic.

They're not the same.

But it also

is a white group, is what I'm trying to say.

Right.

But as a political tool and a tool for revolution,

the last thing

a nice guy, a family, suburban white family wants to be called is racist.

Anything but that.

Please don't call me.

And I'm not racist, but please, I'll do anything.

Don't call me that.

It's a pressure point that's just.

But the word racism doesn't mean anything anymore.

Everybody knows it doesn't mean anything.

Because

if you're walking down the street and a guy drives by with a boom coming out of his stereo and you hear the N-word 25 times, which happened to me about three weeks ago in my hometown, I was walking to the post office.

A lowrider guy

parked and he had this N-word, N-word, N-word booming out of the,

you know what I mean?

Out of the radio or tape.

I thought, wow, that's a hate crime.

No, it's not, apparently.

So

it's so weird about what is permissible and what isn't.

And

I haven't heard in my life,

maybe since 1970s, a so-called white person say the N-word.

I grew up in a Mexican-American community and I heard a lot, but coming from Mexican-American people.

And I haven't heard it recently at all.

I haven't in private conversations.

In other words, when I'm with white people, so-called, they don't say, hey, nobody around.

I'm going to use the N-word.

They don't use it.

And yet, that is the taboo word as it should be, but it's almost exclusively used by the African-American male community.

And we're told that even to say what I just did is racist, that you don't understand that.

But they're not going to have a credibility about

abolishing that word when the rules and protocols of its uses are so arcane that nobody can understand them.

Yeah.

The legitimacy of who utters it, making it legitimate, strikes me as someone who's half Italian, the other half was Irish.

I don't go around and say, well, I'm half Italian.

I can call that guy a guinea dago.

It's just, it's, it's not applicable, except in this one case.

I think the whole thing is not going to end

until there's deterrence and symmetry.

And that always brings back a natural equilibrium.

We're not going to have the Republican, Democrat, left, right, near civil war cease until the left understands that there's consequences and the people on the right are going to have the same attitude as they are

about civility or about repercussions.

And if you don't have that, it's not, that was why the Tennessee legislature, what they did was very salutary.

They said, we have a rule.

You don't disrupt.

You don't go to the podium.

You don't take a megaphone.

And you did that.

So you're going to go out.

You're gone and you're perfectly willing to run for office again and you will probably be folk heroes.

But that's the rule.

Yeah,

you cannot operate a legislative body without rules, Robert's rules of order.

Otherwise, it is chaos.

And then the same thing is, I think, this whole thing about the 1619 project and statues.

I have no problem taking down Jefferson Davis's statue.

That's what?

Fine.

But

you have to apply the same standards across the board.

And what I think is it's not going to stop until somebody says, somebody, meaning people who are disparaged, say, look, this country is unique.

It's not perfect, as we all know, but if it was so bad, why are 7 million people trying to break in in the last two years?

Why does it get more legal and illegal would-be immigrants in all the other countries in the world combined?

Why did this small country of 330 million compared to 1.4 billion in India or China, why does it have the biggest GDP?

Who created this system?

And so this system gave a lot of good for a lot of people.

And for you to go back and racialize it and find it culpable because, as an elite, you find out your life is not going quite like you want and you want to blame the past, doesn't matter.

We're not going to listen to you.

It has zero effect.

We're not going to change any more names.

We're not going to change, tear down anything else.

We're not going to throw paint on any more monuments.

We're going to prosecute the laws.

We don't care about the racial demographics of who create.

If it's all white people are doing, if there's a white group that does smash and grab or carjacking or the knockout game, and they think that's neat, and we sentence them to the maximum, I have no problem if Folsom is 100% white, if they're all violent felons.

Until you get to that point,

you're not going to have this country working.

And

I think that's the only thing people can just collectively just shrug and say, you know what?

I don't care.

When I read these letters at Stanford from the president, and I read the letters from

the law dean, and I read the letters from the diversity equity,

it's people who are very bright and very well educated and very wealthy using all of their imagination and training to not do one thing.

We had a rule that says Stanford stands by free speech and it's against Stanford's Stanford's own codes to disrupt and drive out a lecture.

These people from our video, that person, that person, that person

screamed and yelled and used pornography in the sense of, I don't mean pornography, but what they said was pretty awful.

Not just, I wish your daughters were great, but you can't find the CLI, you can't find the CLIT or something.

And they're going to be expelled.

That would be very easy to do.

And the question is: there's either two reasons, Jack, they didn't do it.

And this is a metaphor for this whole country.

One,

they were afraid of the ramifications.

They didn't want to be swarmed because if they were swarmed and attacked, they had no confidence in the Board of Trustees to back them up and they'd be fired.

Or B, they agreed with it.

And they thought, you know what?

They got a little out of hand, but I can slap them on the wrist and then I'm a folk hero.

And that's either one.

It's not, it's going to only perpetuate it.

And people,

it's getting really, you, I think these people should understand.

You go out and talk to different people from all walks of life, all races, all genders.

People are really worried right now

and they're angry.

And it's really scary.

And this is when the economy is still in a fake bubble,

high employment, but it's starting to,

you know.

Jamie Dimon just said something, you know, the very drastic outlook for

the recession.

I think we're in a recession, but the recession that's coming.

Yeah,

most people I talk to

and who get into what the hell is going on really do think that we are in a different time and approaching some abyss, some gradual.

I think that there's so many centrifugal forces.

There's the whole China as we start to decouple from China, which we had to do, but it's going to be very painful.

We're going to have a lot of supply shortages.

We're going to have a lot of inflationary pressures.

We have the artificial intelligence.

It's increasing geometrically.

And I think part of it was the shortage of labor, but it's going to start to replace jobs at a fantastic rate.

We're in a big revolution right now from people

not going to universities.

We're going to see some major implosions financially if we start to restrict Chinese students or people decide as they are, especially males, they'd rather go to trade school and not deal with this.

There's a big problem right now.

How do you get a male to go to an Ivy League school when they're 55% women as it is and they understand that they're going to be called all sorts of names and they're culpable when they set foot on it.

You can't.

So that's going to happen.

And then we've got this high interest rate on real estate.

We've got inflation that hasn't gone down much.

It's 6.5%.

And I think we're going to be in

a big jam, especially when Joe Biden restricts energy and he adds more regulations and he's going to

increase the bureaucracy and he's politicized things.

And one of the things people are not talking about is the diversity, equity, inclusion industry is hiring billions of dollars worth of personnel that are not productive

and they're anti-productive.

They go after professors, they go after lawyers, they go after business people

to see if they're woke or not woke, but they're not producing anything.

And it's a drain on capital and it's a drain on productivity.

And a drain on civilization.

I know you discussed this with Sammy, but that's what is behind this Dylan Mulvaney or whatever his name is,

Bud Anheuser-Busch and Nike

supporting

making

I don't understand that.

Well, it has to do with the grading that these corporations get from the

DEI, whatever the hell, you know, standards that are used, these social standards.

And if they don't do something like putting this

weirdo's face on a beer can,

they are going to get a demerit and that's going to affect how their financial interactions are it's just this is insanity it's not the first time but I mean if you have a sports bra and it's designed for women right right yeah why wouldn't you have a woman as the spokesperson rather than a person who has no breast

why does he have a bra on he doesn't have any breast

why wouldn't you have a woman that have breasts so that it would be authentic and you would champion your devotion to making sure that women with breasts can compete in the most effective possible way by honoring them with a particular product that's designed just for them.

Unless you think that every man

who transitions and says he's a woman has big breast or breast at all.

Some do, I guess, with hormonal treatments or surgery, but this guy doesn't.

He just looks like a man.

And I don't understand it.

Such an attack on women.

You know, another thing, there's a really interesting article in

the Spectator, American, about this

Baka Bazi.

You know, when we were in Afghanistan, Jack, you remember there was a big issue that this

Islamic tradition of having, and especially the Afghan Islam, of having little boys that were poor, wealthy people would buy them from poor families.

They would raise them from six, seven, eight, 10, 12 until their voices changed.

They put makeup on.

They let their hair grow.

And they would dance in front of men, a lot of the men in the military, and they called it Bakabagzi.

And remember, the U.S.

got really angry about it?

And the U.S.

sergeants,

captains,

majors were complaining that they did not want their Afghan counterparts that they were training to have these people living on the base with them because they felt that it was pederistry or pedophilia, which it was.

And they were told that you don't judge those, you don't judge.

Now, maybe it was because of efficacy.

They didn't want to get tensions, but it all went to naught anyway.

It was all for nothing anyway, because we lost.

But we didn't say a word.

But what was interesting about this article makes a good point, that they were dancing.

That was the idea, and it was sexualized.

And what he was saying, and it was transgenderism, right?

Right.

Because they were all dressed up and were groomed to be women or surrogates for women.

I guess in a way that it

I don't know if the men were bisexual or they felt that these were surrogate women that they could sodomize or something.

It was horrible what they were doing.

But he pointed out that these drag shows where men dress up as women and say they're women, and then they dance in front of people.

And it's kind of a reversal instead of

the men watching the sexualized, because these dances, these Bosi dances are very sexualized,

watching the boys, the children are watching the men, but it's the same transgender milieu, and it's really sick.

And everybody says there's no sexuality to any of these drag shows, but every single time you look at a clip from them,

they're thrusting or they're smiling or they're touching their private parts.

There's also some weirdness here.

Like, you know, we've all seen clips of Milton Burrell dressed in drag.

Yeah.

And, and, and this is how a comical way of how a woman would act.

And I, I assume there are, you know, people had that, they've had their parts changed, et cetera, who don't go around

as these, you know, very high-octane sissies, you know, just aping,

comically aping and essentially deriding women.

Well, I think what you're talking about is there's a historically known percentage

that is hormonally and biologically gender dysphoria, that a person's really in the wrong body.

But they're 0.1 or 0.2 of 1%.

But then you have to ask yourself,

Over the ages, we know that, and I've mentioned classical references, there's a lot of

Hermaphidites is the, or no, Hermaphidite is Hermes Aphrodite, and it represents in antiquity people that had ambiguous sexual organs or people who were thinking they were of the opposite sex, but that was different than transvestism, what they called transvestism.

Vestis is Latin for clothing.

This was the opposite clothing.

There were other people, not necessarily homosexual, who enjoyed dressing up as often in private.

But what I'm saying is that somehow we went from gender dysphoria as a medical issue and challenge, which everybody is sympathetic to and wants to provide tolerance, whether the person surgically or hormonally transitions or stays within his own biological sex, but has problems adjusting because of this dysphoria, to a recent poll that said 20% of teenagers think they want to transition.

So

what went from 0.1, 0.2 to 20%?

And that was the hula hoop, Duncan Yo-Yo, as I've called it, fad of popular mass culture that normalized something that previously

was not normal.

And we were told that it wasn't just mainstreaming, it was turning it into something desirable.

And in the process,

we gave an exemption to,

it's warped our entire discussion.

So we can't discuss the Nashville shootings in any rational way about the motive of the shooter.

We can't discuss the would-be shooter of Justice Kavanaugh.

We can't discuss the would-be shooter in Colorado.

We can't discuss the violence in New Zealand because to do so we're called transphobes.

It's become a civil rights issue that was created by the left.

I don't know if it was because they felt that all of their prior constituencies, women,

had achieved parity, in many cases, superiority as far as the workplace.

And maybe

they thought, I don't know, African Americans had achieved rough parity, Hispanics, and there was no longer an aggrieved group.

Homosexuals had been, A's had got parity, and they needed a new cause.

But it came out of nowhere.

It came out of nowhere.

It's a tool, once again, I think a tool just for chaos and to destroy Western civilization.

Hey, Victor,

let's continue on that.

We don't have much time left, but

there is the attack on

Riley Gaines at San Francisco State University.

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So, Victor, talking about

trans and parody and violence.

And boy, oh boy, I wish there was some pushback in this regard.

But Riley Gaines, who's a great woman,

college athlete, swimmer.

She is

involved now with the Independent Women's Forum she was invited to speak at San Francisco State University another event sponsored by TP USA Turning Point USA

and as can be expected nowadays madness ensued crowds were there taunting yelling screaming she got punched a few times by some guy I wonder he just kept trying to hit her Yeah, and he did.

He did.

Yeah, he did.

She had to be protected by police,

had to be kept in a room for a couple of hours for her own safety.

And this is what passes for, I don't know, college education in America.

Let's close out.

I'm a California taxpayer, as a lot of our listeners are, and we're paying for that.

So here is the San Francisco State campus,

and they can't protect a person who wants to speak on a topic.

I guess supposedly the majority disagree with.

But she didn't,

you know, she's not saying, you know, anything that's violent.

She's just saying her main from all of her speeches, it's simply the same thing, that biological males are taking advantage of the transgendered movement to sabotage and destroy women's efforts the last three or four decades to achieve parity.

And it's true.

It's true.

And

there would be a simple solution to this whole problem.

We could just say, let's have a transgendered league.

Because you say, the transgendered group, that this is a mass phenomenon with 10 to 20 percent of the population.

If that's true, then you'd have 50 million constituents and it would be the big thing.

You could rival the Super Bowl, just have transgendered athletes.

And then they would say, well,

what do we do with women that want to become men?

Well, we say you do the same thing as men that want to become women because gender is not biological.

It's a social construct.

And you'd say, yeah, but

men that want to become women have advantages over women that want to become men.

You say, no, they don't.

It's just the opposite.

Men who want to become women have gone from a physically more muscular,

stronger, to a weaker one historically.

They've completely changed their sex.

And women who were biologically smaller or smaller muscular skeletal system have suddenly become men.

So it's just the opposite.

The women becoming men are the greater athletes, perhaps.

Well, let's put them in there and let them all compete regardless and just say it's a transgender category.

Yes.

They won't do that.

They won't do that because they know there's not a market for that.

There is a market for the celebrity virtue signaling

left

that apparently doesn't, I don't know, understand the left because they were big proponents of women's parity and they're doing more than any other movement right now to destroy it.

It wasn't too long ago, Victor, at many colleges,

traditional sports programs for men were being kiboshed

for parity so that more money went into women's lacrosse, women's field hockey,

where I used to teach at Cal Straight Straight Presnote, one of the ways that you got rid of title, I mean, you had to enforce title line, was you got rid of the men's water pole and create a huge equestrian team.

More power to it.

That's what the idea was, but not now.

No, no, not at all.

And

so,

you know, when we talked to begin, a couple of things and we'll finish, but when we talked at the beginning,

we were talking about this transgender a little bit.

And what I don't understand is: here is this

accomplished swimmer, Riley, and she's at San Francisco State.

And what would have happened if the four or five policemen were not there, Jack?

She would have had the crap beaten out of her.

I think she would have been killed.

And people would have said she had it coming to her.

She would have had it coming the way they, some people on the left, sort of with a wink of nods, said that about the Christian school that was attacked.

So

this is a very strange thing that we have given anytime in the human experience, you give an exemption to crime or violence, and then you get more of it.

And the transgendered community apparently feels that the nobility or the superiority of their cause allows them to use any means necessary to achieve it, which has to be exempt from the general population.

And they feel that if there is a transgendered shooter, the general population will not tell us the manifesto are not tied cause and effect, or will not tell us for months afterwards that a would-be assassin of Mr.

Kavanaugh was a trans person,

or that there's a mass would-be transgendered murder.

We're not supposed to know any of that.

And that filters down to the trans community that

they have a license to be violent that's not accorded to other people because of their moral superiority.

If that's true, then we're going to see a lot more of this.

And then, of course, San Francisco State, we know analogous to the Sanford Law School violence.

I think it was violent to scream and yell.

And

had there not been federal marshals there for the judge, I think it would have got out of hand.

But

at San Francisco, why doesn't the president give a lecture and says, you violated a state policy?

You broke the law, probably, with the person striking, that's a felony assault.

And why doesn't either the local DA,

we're told we have a better DA in San Francisco, why doesn't she just look at that and say, that man-trans person hit

her, and we're going to file an assault charge?

And why doesn't the president expel five or six if they were students?

They don't do it.

So it's going to continue.

Or if it was another type of issue, the United States Justice Department would then get involved if there wasn't proper criminal

criminal action.

It reminds me when I was born in 1953,

and my first knowledge of

the news was in 60, 61, 62.

And I would,

it was on CBS News.

I'd kind of crawl in or watch the Huntley Brinkley report.

Remember that?

Channel

NBC.

Yes, NBC.

And it was all about these violent acts in the South, you know, the bombings.

And there wasn't, I mean,

it wasn't every day, but there were bombings of kids, the Birmingham bombing, and it was, or the George Wallace.

And what was so strange about it was

the authorities, the local authorities, weren't doing anything about it.

They were doing nothing about it.

And there were, you know, they had the Freedom Riders and all that.

And there were three, I think, were murdered, but they wouldn't do anything about it.

It wasn't, and then JFK wouldn't do anything about it.

Eisenhower, at least, called it, and then finally he was forced to.

But my point is, it's very similar, where the authorities in many of these jurisdictions are on the side of the criminals that are using violence, and

they won't intervene.

And it's so weird because I wrote an article about the neo-Confederate liberal movement,

whether it was the one-drop fixation on race, or whether it was the South Carolina 1856 56 or 1832 types of nullifying federal laws

analogous to sanctuary cities, or whether it was segregation, like theme houses that are segregated or safe spaces are graduate.

It's very eerie that we're going back to these same principles that we know.

Right.

Another parallel, the left as the Confederacy is the thing they tear statues down about, but

they ape their ways.

It's remarkable.

They hated the Constitution just like these left do.

Yeah.

Very famous statement.

I think it was Alexander Stevens, was the vice president, vice governor.

He was governor of Georgia, I think, at one point.

And he said the problem with the Constitution, we don't follow it because it was based on a fallacy that all men,

it incorporated the values of the Declaration of Independence.

And the Constitution assumes that all people are created equal and they're not.

That's what he said.

And therefore, we reject it.

But when you listen today, you see that there's still all these attacks on the Constitution.

I think partly because,

you know, I mean, they go after the three-fifths clause, but we know the real story of that was a northern effort to stop the South from AAE enslaving people and then counting them as

demographics to get more House of Representatives to perpetuate slavery.

Right.

Well, Victor, you and I are,

I mean, the three-fifths may still apply in a way.

When you have intersectionality,

certain people have greater value than other people in our society now.

So, anyway, on that note,

I don't know how wise it was or not, but on that note, Victor, we have to conclude with the things we do at the end of the show.

Thank you, listeners, for listening, particularly if you're here for the first time.

Thanks for joining us.

Hope you

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From Clarkabees,

respect, totally respect your wisdom and humor.

Keep up the good work.

We are listening.

Thank you, Clarkabes.

And then Larry M54 writes, we were just talking about this.

Male athletes in women's sports, think about this.

Why doesn't anyone talk about the fact that one day soon, the top 10 athletes in every woman's sports will all be biological men?

Larry Mancini from Montreal, Canada.

You're right, Larry.

I think within a few years,

the team that wins the women's basketball championship are going to be five dudes.

So, Victor, thanks for all the wisdom you've shared.

Thanks again, folks, for listening.

And we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

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