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Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Jack Fowler discuss the election Nov. 8, the African-American commentariat, MAGA people and party, Biden’s recent speech, and the Paul Pelosi case.

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You know, Victor,

this show is being aired on Election Day.

Of course, a lot of people have already voted.

And for all we know, a lot of people will still be voting in certain cities in Pennsylvania days from now.

But

one thing I'd like to get your thoughts on as we begin is,

and again, events will prove you or us right or wrong, is

a wave and the extent of the wave.

And I want to just

ask your indulgence and the listener's indulgence

for

a quick analysis from Newt Gingrich.

So last night, Friday night,

the 4th,

I think he was on Tucker Crow.

Oh no, he was on Sean Hannity's show.

And he really laid it out that this is going to be a significant

change.

And here's what he wrote on his own website.

This weekend, which while we're recording, this weekend is going to accelerate that swing.

I have a friend who says his wife comes home in a day every Sunday after buying the week's groceries from Cheerios to milk to eggs to meat to everything's getting more expensive.

Another friend says he has not bought steak in a year because it's simply too expensive.

This weekend, the undecided voters and the lean Democrat voters are going to fill up their gas tanks and get irritated by the price.

They're going to go grocery

shopping and get angry all over again.

Then they're going to go home, turn on the local news and watch the worst crime wave in 50 years.

When they turn to politics in the last few days before they vote, they are going to see clips of an angry, bitter old man tearing America apart with the most vicious and divisive language of any president in American history, et cetera.

So, Newt believes

and argues that

all of the outstanding votes, all of the undecideds, these things are just going to break the Republican way.

I think he said at least 54, maybe even 55 Senate seats, and he predicted a pickup of his number was 44

House seats, which would be quite significant so victor there's a these theory there you know uh uh essentially uh those people who still are not rock solid it's all it's all going one way and that might pull colorado and and and uh north dakota excuse me uh new hampshire and some other seats along in the senate that's newt's thought those are newt's thoughts victor what are your thoughts well i think what he means is that when you

when you have these midterm elections and there's these divisive issues, what a person thinks in New Hampshire and what a person thinks in Oregon or Washington are not that dissimilar because they triumph or trump the local situations.

They even, to a certain extent,

trump the quality of the candidate.

And so not that, and that, and that makes it doubly bad for the Democrats because I think for all the talk over the mega candidates were too extreme, they're very good candidates.

And the Democratic ones, as we see in Arizona and Oregon, are not.

But I think what he's saying is that people collectively want to vote Republican for the issues that he outlined, and they're just waiting and waiting and waiting to see if there's an answer, you know, if there's a counter argument.

Is Joe Biden going to say,

this was great.

We let in three to five million illegal aliens.

That's our plan.

We've got a lot of fresh,

hardworking Americans.

I got rid of that Constitution pipeline.

I didn't approve it.

Got rid of Keystone XL.

Anwar shut down like I promised.

Or if they're not going to do that, is he going to say, okay,

we had to do this, but now we're pivoting.

So I'm going to build 100 miles of wall.

We've got Anwar coming back online.

We've got some fiscal discipline.

I'm going to have some federal attorneys look at these laxities in the big cities of non-prosecution.

Is he going to do that?

And they haven't heard anything.

So what have they heard, Jack?

They've heard,

A,

if you do not vote for a Democrat, that is synonymous with voting against democracy.

So Democrats and democracy go together.

If you vote against Democrats, you're voting against democracy.

That's half the country and more when you count the independents.

And then second, abortion, abortion, abortion.

And that is now distilled down to we want a national abortion bill.

And we don't really care about the federalist system.

And even after the repeal of Woe versus Wade, we're not going to let it go back to the states.

We want a national abortion law that says every woman in the United States can terminate a human life up to the minute before birth.

That's pretty much what they're saying.

And then third, it's Donald Trump and the semi-fascist are half the nation and they have to be done with.

Boy, they really went after them this week.

So I don't, so they've been waiting and they hear that and they get mad because they say, damn it, I want to buy a hamburger.

I want to buy steak.

I want to fill up my pickup.

I want to walk again, you know, at noon in Baltimore or San Francisco or Chicago.

Or I don't want to turn on the

evening news and see all these brand new weapons we gave over to the Taliban.

And they're not getting any answers for it.

So collectively, across state lines, across ideologies, across party registration, people are coming to a consensus.

The only question is, do they have time for the full extent of that to play out?

And I think what's going to happen is a lot of Democrats are not going to vote.

Some Democrats won't talk to anybody, but they're going to vote Republican because they're sick of their own party.

You're going to get a 45 or 50% Hispanic vote and a 20% African-American vote, and it's going to send a big message.

And so I think Dan RH's numbers

are pretty much on the target.

Okay.

I did see, and I think I shared with that Quinnipiak poll the other day that it's different between

Hispanic voters and Hispanic adults.

Hispanic adults was still pretty significantly favoring of Democrats, but Hispanic voters, registered voters, was, I think it was 48, 46 pro-GOP.

That's just, you politically

earth-shaking earthquake

for recent political history.

Victor, another thing,

along these same lines, and maybe we can meld into this.

We can talk separately, I hope, about the speech Joe Biden gave earlier this week,

the final big

challenge to frighten Americans.

But the concept of

these last Democrat, the last days of of the election, their tactics is essentially to scare democracy's on the ballot.

And that was interesting.

I'm sure you saw, and I'm sure many of our listeners saw the Fox compiling a clip of all the talking heads on the left, like 12 of them.

Democracy's on the ballot, democracy's on the ballot, democracy is on the ballot.

But America, I guess it's possible to scare an electorate at a point into

voting one way, but we're an electorate that has been tormented the last

few years with

threats of apocalypes of all sorts and are tired of.

That's exactly right.

The attitude is shut the fuck up.

We don't want to hear it anymore.

We heard it when you swore that there was Russian collusion.

We heard it when you swore that some damn band, bat, or pangolin was responsible for COVID rather than this Wuhan lab that we helped fund.

We heard it with Hunter's laptop.

We heard it when you said there was was an armed insurrection that killed Officer Sicknick.

We're sick of it.

We're sick of the hysterics.

We're sick of the walls closing in.

We're sick of the bombshells.

We don't believe you anymore.

So when we vote and we vote you out, we're not voting against democracy.

We're voting for democracy.

That's what we're participating in.

And you're losing.

And just because you lose doesn't mean that democracy dies.

It means it thrives.

And you people are trying to destroy democracy because you're trying to suppress freedom of expression.

You have ministries of truth you've installed.

You've colluded with big tech to suppress and monitor expression.

And I think people are going to really get sick of these people.

And we'll see.

But

I think that all of these races

are going to break by one or two points and they're going to break against them.

And it won't matter what the margin is if they break because of the same mentalities and the same landscapes that are affecting these races.

And the races is simply, this is civilization versus chaos.

It cannot go on with an open border with 3 million people.

When you look at that border, you say, God,

damn,

we have an immigration law.

Why is that guy, that guy, that 100, these 200 just pouring across the borders into our country?

Who is going to pay for them when they come in here?

They're going to need Medi-Cal.

They're going to need Medicare.

They're going to need housing.

They're going to need education.

Who pays for that?

And they're not going to be happy at us.

We know what the left will do with them for a generation, that they hate us.

So

why don't they stop that?

And then the crime, the jogger in Central Park that was raped.

African-American woman that was executed by her husband that had just been left.

It's every day.

Why don't they just stop it?

Why don't they put these people in jail?

And

there's no answer to it.

And so people get angry.

And then, when they're told that they're racist or they're paranoid or they're conspiring, they get even angrier.

So I don't think that we've really, yeah, I don't think we've estimated the possibilities of what could happen.

It could be 55 seats, it could be 45 seats

because

these people are

angry.

Take the viciousness of, well, the voters are angry, but

the leftists are

who are

on MSNBC and the view.

We're cockroaches, suburban women who don't agree with whatever the hell her name is on

the view or like sunny hostess.

Yeah, yeah.

Cockroaches voting for

a raid.

That's very strange what's going on because

they just fired that

Tiffany

from MSNBC, Tiffany Cross?

Yeah, somebody,

she was on the right.

Well, what's happening with the African-American commentariat on the left is they are talking in collectives without distinctions.

Right.

So they use this word white.

And so whites, all suburban white women are like cockroaches going to raid.

And they're so stupid and they're so suicidal.

And

they're not as nearly as bright as Sonny Huston.

So they don't know what's in their interest.

What's the matter with Kansas argument?

And

they're compared to insects.

Anybody, she's an idiot, but anybody knows in popular discourse, you don't use bug imagery, insect imagery, because we know who did it.

The Third Reich did it.

Yeah, the Soviets.

That's what Stanford did to

Ben Shapiro when he came to Stanford.

They put raid, bug spray pictures all over the campus, spray them out.

And then at the same time, we've got this Joy Reed who's saying that, you know, nobody knows what the word inflation means and all these stupid voters don't know what they're,

and she was just channeling the Barack Obama

Klinger's argument.

And then we have Michael Steele comparing Trump voters to Nazis.

Then we have Jim Clyborne comparing them to the takeover of Weimar Republic, and he got it so screwed up about Weimar and who was vice president.

He didn't know any.

He's an ignorant man.

And then we had the

diversity of the education sections in the Pentagon.

And she

was talking about

you can't give white people this and that.

They'll always turn on you.

And then you had the Democratic candidate, I think from South Carolina, said

how awful white people.

My point is this.

If you're going to have an elite, privileged group of people, and they are going to attack people on the basis of their race with complete impunity, although Tiffany Cross was finally fired.

Megan

Kelly said a really brilliant thing.

Oh, Megan Kelly, right.

Yeah, Megan Kelly is really great.

She said,

This is the biggest racist on the air.

And she is.

But the point I'm making is that you cannot say to an African-American person, I don't think, well, why don't you take care of crime?

Because we're all individuals.

But once that spokesman crosses that individual line and starts talking about everybody else in collectives and in a disparaging way,

These white people are like insects.

These white people are like Nazis.

You start doing that and people are going to say, okay,

53, 54% of violent crimes, depending on the category of rape or murder, assault, are committed by African-Americans.

Have you seen YouTube lately?

And when they say, These are racist commercials that Zelden's showing, well, just show me how many people of the 68% rubric are doing this.

Because when you look at hate crimes, the so-called white collective is disproportionately underrepresented as assailants, and the African-American rubric is double their numbers in the population as committers of hate crimes.

This is not just violent crimes.

It soars even higher that when you have

6%

African-American males, and they're committing 53% of the nation's crime,

and their elite spokesman, their spokesman, I use that term because these people assume they are their spokesman, and they're talking about Nazi white people and insect white people.

It's not a sustainable proposition.

And people are going to get angry.

And

I think this is really terrible for racial relationships because

what's going to happen, they have run CNN and MSNBC in the ground.

At some point,

we're seeing it with this leaked guy at CNN.

We're going to see it in MMS.

Somebody's going to say,

They're either going to have to tell Joy Reed or Al Sharpton or what they did to Tiffany Cross.

You can't start spouting or to Michael Steele.

You can't keep spouting, or Ellie Mostel.

You can't, you know, he said, I, when COVID's over, I just don't want to see white people.

I want to keep away from them.

You can't keep spouting this.

And because if you're spouting this and you're a self-appointed megaphone for an entire collective without individual exceptions,

which you are when you attack white people, then people are going to say the same thing about African Americans.

They're going to say, then you're responsible

for

your collective committing these violent crimes that have really turned off the nation.

So you better be careful.

I think that's what's really bad when you start talking about collectives and not individuals.

And they do.

They don't talk.

They don't.

Sonny Holson never says

some, there's a few, you know, white Republican women that I don't think they were voting in their own interest.

She says, white summer women are like bugs going to rain.

Okay, what do you?

She can't even finish a sentence.

She's so ignorant.

And the same thing with Stacey Abrams.

She's running for Georgia and

her opponent, Kemp, says, I've got the endorsement.

And she said, well, you're that.

I would be, I wouldn't want that.

Those are just good old boys that, you know, harass African-American.

So there you go again.

And,

you know, it's, it's, I thought Oz handled it pretty well, but Opa was his close friend.

You know, Opa was, she doesn't know anybody.

She doesn't know Fetterman.

And she endorses

Federman.

And then she endorses Stacey Abrams and da da da da da da.

And,

you know, all of a sudden she's back into the political whirlwind, like Whoopi Goldberg.

And it's always the same thing.

The subtext is always the same thing.

There is

the more these celebrities become wealthy and powerful, the Lebrons, the Colin Kaepernicks,

the more they lodge complaints against this racist society.

And finally, people in the lower middle classes that are right today

deciding whether they're going to fill their car up or get groceries are sick of it.

They're sick of it.

They're sick of it.

Well,

that's what's on the ballot.

That's what's on the ballot.

Yeah.

You know, Victor,

you've predicted before, and

maybe we'll wait for another episode, but I'm assuming if the Hispanic vote comes in, as some of those polls have shown, we are going to see that ferocity broaden.

Or as has happened a long time ago, that,

oh my gosh,

the Zimmerman

who

fought and killed

Trayvon Martin was a white Hispanic.

And whiteness will be an expansive term to incorporate

Hispanic.

It already is.

They're already attacking the three

Mexican-American women along the border.

They're running as

whites.

They have this new idea that white races, they did it to Larry Elder.

They call him a white supremacist.

And

yeah, they're going to have to come up with that.

But

they've destroyed the

irony, Jack, is that they've given all of these sermons about how MAGA took over the Republican Party.

MAGA took over the Republican Party and said, you know what?

The Bushes, the Romneys, they're not the face of the Republican Party anymore.

We are not a bunch of white, aristocratic, wealthy, inherited people.

We're just not.

We welcome those people in the party.

We have nothing against them.

And they have some good ideas, but the party is a lower, middle, and upper-middle class.

And we have substituted race.

We've got rid of race.

And it's class.

and it's ecominical.

So if you're a Mexican-American contractor, if you're an African-American policeman, you have the same class interests as we do.

You want to restore the United States industrial and assembly and manufacturing center.

You want free trade, not just free, but fair trade, not just free, but it has to be fair with China, reciprocal,

symmetrical trade.

And we want a deterrent Jacksonian foreign policy.

And we want energy development, and we want to restore law and order.

And we want a border.

And we're going to, and that is a populist, nationalist, middle-class agenda.

And the Democratic Party is the one that's radically changed.

It's a party of bicosta, wealthy.

It's, first of all, it's run by billionaires.

And second,

its shock troops are upper

degree, upper, upper middle class, professional degree coastal elites, and then the subsidized poor.

And

it doesn't represent the middle class.

It doesn't like the middle class.

And that's why it comes up with all these terms that they use all the time, like clingers or irredeemables or deplorable or dregs, chumps.

That's why they think they can get away with these racist things they say.

They say it every damn day on television.

They start getting into race and then they start just sounding off.

They can threaten people.

They can run out Kavanaugh out of a restaurant.

They can swarm his home.

You can have Schumers Schumers at the doors of the Supreme Court.

And that's all permissible.

That's social justice activism.

And then they project onto people, well, you're threatening people.

You went into Paul Pelosi's house, you mega people.

That was just absurd.

And I think people are just saying, you know,

these people are just spoiled brats.

They're just privileged.

fools.

They're not very smart.

They're stupid.

They

stroke smart.

They look at the border and they said, what Ignoramus made that mess after they gave us these lectures about quote-unquote cages.

They get a murderer.

They let him out and their attitude is, he's not going to move me.

He'll murder that poor black guy in this ghetto, but not me.

I live in a good neighborhood.

I have private security.

That's how they think.

And people are going to say, you know what?

We're sick of you.

We're sick of everything you represent.

And I think it's going to be a big backlash.

And

we'll see.

Well, Victor,

let's talk about something that may have made voters even sicker.

And

that's Joe Biden's

speech from Union Station in Washington.

And let's get your thoughts on that right after

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So, Victor, a couple of the things we want to get in here today.

And one is your thoughts on Biden.

And before we move away from like the hysterics

and the hypocrites of

the last few weeks, I do want to also get to the historian, your historian,

and I want to get your thoughts about this Michael Beschloss idiocy that was cranked out the other day.

But first, Victor, you know, here's Biden coming in.

Okay, I'm going to make some profound argument that's going to make the base shake in its boots.

And

yeah, it was, gosh, I can't, it was a terrible speech in every freaking way.

That's my humble opinion.

What did you think about

Biden's performance and his message and anything else?

Well, the logic of it was he gave, you know, two earlier versions.

He gave the semi-fascist speech and he was chastised for it.

And then he went full, full, you know, demagoguery

when he gave the Phantom of the Opera speech with with the red sets and each time people in his own party and the independent pundocracy you know blasted him and then he stopped because people said you know and we know the polls were bad and then people came back to him and said look

you don't have any other issue you you can't explain inflation you can't defend crime, you have no answer for the border, you're not going to, you know convince people that you've got a great foreign policy crime's not going to go down so you got to double down and just say that these people are horrible people and they're scary and and you got to make it a manichean black versus white in the sense of you know no in between no gray and darkness versus light these people live in the valley of the shadows shadows of lies he said the second time so now he went back and he doubled down and it was sort of like McCarthy swinging that piece of paper.

And he said, I have a list here of

219 names of people in the communism.

Not that there were some communism, but he's saying, I've got a list of all these people that are running for office that are election deniers.

And I thought, okay,

stop, USOB.

Stop.

So you're telling me you have a list and you're telling me that Stacey Abrams is a threat to democracy.

Huh?

No, no.

You're telling me Dianne Feinstein is a threat to democracy because she said that Trump was not a legitimate president.

Nope.

You are telling me that James Clyborne and Benny Thompson, the head of the January 6th Committee in the third-ranking Republic, Democrat in the House, are election denialists because they refused to certify the votes in Ohio in 2004.

It was clear they were illegitimate.

They tried to stop that election.

Hillary Clinton is an an election denier about 20 times.

I counted them.

She said, I think my count was 13 times.

She said that Trump was not an election.

Jimmy Carter said Trump was not

fairly elected.

He is not a legitimate president.

That's what's,

you know, that's what birthed the whole collusion farce.

So these people have all been election deniers.

And when you object, anybody can do it.

I don't think it's a threat to democracy.

If you want to to go say, I got cheated, it's not a nice thing to do, but go ahead.

Who cares?

The system is supposed to be able to deal with that.

What the system can't deal with is somebody like Mark Zuckerberg infusing into a nonprofit $419 million to pre-select precincts to get out and harvest votes by absorbing the work of the government.

which is illegal in most states.

That's what he did.

And what you can't do is, what it can't survive is when the FBI starts to work with Silicon Valley to suppress information that might have a bearing on election.

And what you can't do in a democracy is have one candidate hide her foot handprints behind three paywalls and then hire foreign nationals, which are illegal.

You cannot hire a foreigner to work in a political campaign.

She hired Christopher Steele.

He got in this Dolan Dolan and Dashenko, and they created this whole farce.

And that was really destructive to democracy.

And it didn't end.

It was then perpetuated by the FBI and carried on during the transition in the presidency.

So

when I listened to that speech, I thought, wow,

you're talking about violence,

120 days of violence, nothing.

All these election deniers, nothing.

And then, you know, when you read the text of it, it was bad enough, but then you see him.

And here,

it's very strange.

He squints.

He's pale.

Right.

He slurs his word like he's going to spit and he's angry and he yells and screams.

And then you say.

And he crushes the words together.

Yeah, he crushes, just slurs them in, you know.

And then that same week, he didn't know what century he was talking about.

He, you know, Barack Obama thought there were 57 states.

He thought there were 54.

And he,

so

what I'm getting at is, yes, everybody that's listening, he's cognitively challenged, but he was always an SOB.

He was always a mean-spirited person.

He was always a racist.

And now what he's done is in this very strange twist, because he's senile or dodging, people say, well,

he didn't mean that.

He doesn't.

He's just talking like that because he's a little adult.

No, he's always been that way.

And now you see it in the raw and it's it's no different so yes he he his delivery is impaired but the mean spiritedness is not it's the same person yeah my old right my old colleague and charlie cook he wrote a piece say either look uh democrats he's senile or he's a liar which one i'd say he's both he's both he's he was always the liar right yeah i mean and and look what he's done i mean we impeached donald trump he remember he at that speech he gave a list of all the things that the democrats would do and one of the things they'd stop his giveaway on loans that was illegal he didn't even go to the congress then he lied about it and said oh i got that passed by a couple of votes no you didn't you just canceled a contract which you can't do as president and now you're making fun of people and saying they're not going to

they might want to enforce a law and and correct your law and your unlawfulness yes they might right and then you know the same old thing about they're going to cut Social Security.

Even the Washington Post said, gave him four Pinocchios on that.

And then

no mention about all the working class people that he doesn't care about that are going to pay these loans for these people with graduate degrees.

And,

you know, and then he got into affirmative action and all of this.

And

he's, I think it's really important for conservatives.

and Republicans

and moderate independents to just say, you know what?

Press the pedal to the metal.

Don't listen to this because these people are dangerous.

And the only thing that they understand is losing.

So go out and vote like you've never voted before.

Vote them out of office.

Conduct investigations of all the skullduggery they were involved in, starting with Joe Biden himself and his family.

And don't look back.

Don't worry what they say.

Don't listen to it.

Their ratings show you.

They've wrecked network news.

Fox is almost the same as, I think, ABC News now.

They've wrecked Time magazine, Atlantic magazine.

Nobody reads.

They're just partisan.

They're not even magazines anymore.

They've ruined the reputation of Facebook and Google and Twitter until Elon Musk took over.

And everything they touched, they turned to dross.

And so don't listen to them.

And I think people are starting to

it's also, I don't want to, I don't know how to put my finger on it, but it's that whiny, nasal

wow.

I was looking at Carrie Lake, and somebody was trying to, you know, cross her up about something.

And his voice, wow, what are you saying about this?

Well, what do you say?

You know what I mean?

It's just these people, right?

It's really a muscularity.

I mean, there's this cognitive elite, and then they're dealing with the guy that's driving the semi for 10 hours or the guy in the forklift lifting, you know, cinder blocks all day long versus the guy, the cop out going into the worst.

That's the, it's a class divide now.

Well, it's like a revenge of the nerds of sorts.

You know, the guys, the little lefties who got

shoved in the lockers and swirlied in the turlets.

I think I've said that before.

My dad said a lot of smart things, but one of the smartest things was when he dropped me off at UC Santa Cruz and he walked in the dorms and he was lifting everything and we had boxes I was trying to unload and everybody who walked by smelled, they didn't take baths, barefooted, drugs smelled marijuana everywhere.

We went in the bathroom.

There was a guy taking a shower naked with his girlfriend in the male part.

And my dad said, where the hell is the males?

Dorm.

I said, it starts right at that little invisible line.

Those swoons are women and these are men.

Well, why the hell is she in there?

And he said, wow, these people are going to be running the country someday.

Oh, my God.

And they were.

They are.

And

the country shows that they are because it's going to hell.

Yeah.

It's an insipid candyassery of the elite.

Whatever it is is very palpable.

People don't like it.

That's something also for.

half of the Mexican-American population.

When you talk to those that are starting to express doubts about the Democratic Party, it's not just inflation, it's not just gas, it's more so

transgenderism, attack on faith, and all that, but it's also they don't manliness.

Yeah,

they don't like to be talked down to by nerds.

Yeah.

Hey, Victor, speak, we'll talk about a nerd here in a second.

I just want to let you know that on just the news

being reported, you mentioned the school loans, and we don't need to get into this, but Democrats, despite everything that's happening, right?

You know,

the tsunami is coming at them.

Democrats propose expanding student loan forgiveness for government employees in order to incentivize public service.

They just don't freaking get it.

That's right before the election.

They get in a room and they think,

all of these MAGA, all of these, you know, dregs and chumps, and there's too many of them.

We got to get our base out.

So one guy at the round the the table says, well, let's give all the student loan months.

Let's just cancel the bet.

And the guy goes, okay.

Another guy says, well, let's help the federal employee union.

Okay.

And that's what they do.

And we all know what they're doing.

And another guy over there says, well, let's just drain the strategic petroleum reserve.

Maybe that'll help.

And then you put all, you juxtapose all this in the context where Donald Trump was impeached because he made a phone call and he said, watch out for the crooked Bidens.

And we've approved this loan, but I'm going to hold it up a little bit until you get your house in order.

You don't let this Quid Pro quo family start to screw stuff up.

And

what are they doing?

They're using U.S.

foreign policy and national interest, and they're warping it in terms of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

We're begging the Saudis.

all for the benefit of the short-term gain in the midterm.

Well, Victor, not to emasculate too many people, but I've never been really a fan of Michael Beschloss or John Meekum.

Watch them occasionally on

Morning Joe or some other show.

And especially Meekum has a very, very

kind of self-satisfied smugness to him.

But Beschloss, who is...

I think on MSNBC the other night, he was labeled as the president's historian or something like that.

Not presidential historian like you are victor you are a military historian anyway he was on um

um chris hayes's show i actually saw it live i was flicking the channels and he he gave this god it was pathetic uh uh harangue about violence coming um

probably could likely happen in uh six days in the election and he said something else that our children arrested and conceivably killed.

This is an allegedly, well, he's not allegedly esteemed.

He's esteemed by a certain segment of society as a historian with the freaking loony tunes,

scaremongering

utterances on the show the other night.

So, I assume you saw it.

You may have a more calmer or more, obviously, more intelligent view on what he did.

But I'm curious about your take on

that

pitch and anything you might have to say about

Beshlas himself as a historian.

Well, I only have, he wrote me an email once and he was angry asking for a correction because he had given an interview with Don Imos, I think it was, and he said that Barack Obama had the highest IQ.

and was the smartest man ever to assume the presidency.

And I had to call him.

I just said, that's absurd.

He has no idea what his IQ is.

He doesn't know anything.

He's never been president.

So, how did he know that?

He didn't know that.

So I thought that was, you know,

I voted for Donald Trump.

I would never say that Donald Trump's got the highest IQ of any president, or he's the smartest person that's ever entered the office, even though Donald Trump did a lot more in four years than Barack Obama.

did in eight.

Yeah, for all we know, Millard Fillmore might have had

some IQ.

Who knows?

He's somebody we're talking about.

I don't have any,

i'm not judging him on his resume but he represents that strain of privilege and elitism he's he's i think he went to phillips academy

and uh

i think sammy

sammy's listening and uh maybe sammy knows I think Sammy taught at Phillips Academy.

She knows what the environment there is like.

He went to Williams.

He went to Harvard.

He's not an academic.

He never got a PhD in history in that sense.

I'm not saying you need a PhD to write history.

There's some great historians, David McCullough, I don't think had a PhD,

but he was a businessman.

He was an MBA.

And he's, you know, he's connected to the world.

I think his wife, who works for the World Bank, or something, they're all the same.

So he lives in a very privileged, rarefied

East Coast,

Northern East Coast, Milieu.

And he sort of weighs in.

I think he wrote a book on Eisenhower, but it's basically the same book on either Kennedy or Roosevelt, how great they were, da-da-da-da-da.

Okay, we get that.

But lately, Trump, he's another casualty of Trump derangement syndrome.

Trump just destroyed him.

And he's made a fool out of himself.

It's too bad.

But

he's really made a fool out of himself.

He really, what you just said, I've heard him say that on two occasions.

John Meacham is a similar person.

He's another aristocrat, and he should know better because he was chastised.

I think he was teaching a Duke.

And he, or is it Vanderbilt?

I think it might have been Vanderbilt, excuse me.

But he,

you remember, he was a collaborator or a speechwriter, in fact,

for

the State of the Union in 2020.

And then

he went on national TV, cable TV, and what did he do?

He bragged and said it was one of the best speeches that was around.

So MSNBC, think of that.

So he writes a speech.

And then he goes on to MSNBC

and he says that this is really good.

And he doesn't tell anybody that he's bragging on himself.

So I think they were considering firing him.

And so what does he do?

He turns right around and he does the same thing again.

He's still a talking head and he contributed to these shadow of lies speeches.

And it's very unethical.

He's a very unethical person to do that.

And then we have Doris Kurt, the third of the Troika Goodwin.

And she was dismissed from national, was it PBS for plagiarism?

And she, when, and when a grandee who doesn't do their own work and their own research or they have,

and they get caught at that, they usually blame assistants.

Oh, I didn't know that my, you know, my staffer didn't tell me that whatever, but they never come

full.

And so, you've got three people that are-

she's still treated with great, great.

Well, she's on a comeback, but she was in the wilderness, the doghouse for years.

She lost all of her affiliations because she was lying.

She was stealing.

That's intellectual theft.

Right.

And Meacham was unethical.

So that you have three people who are unethical.

And yet, we're told that we're going to listen to their words.

Basically, the assignment was: I'm going to brand half the country as semi-fascist SOBs because I can't.

I ran the country into the ground and nobody likes what I'm doing.

And even though we control Wall Street and professional sports and entertainment and K-12 and Silicon Valley and print media and network news, it's still not enough.

I've only got 40%.

And you guys have to spice this speech up.

So

instead of, I call them liars, can't you say they dwell in the shadow of the lies?

That's the kind of stuff they do.

And it didn't work.

And

it's sad because whatever reputations had given all of their ethical gymnastics.

and contradictions, whatever reputations they had will be further eroded because they were purveyors of hate.

So they were trying to divide the country even further and calling people.

I get really angry because

yesterday I was in a drugstore in

my small town and two Mexican-American guys came up and they were kind of covered with tattoos.

They didn't speak English.

And they said, hey, man,

I see you on Fox.

Keep it up, man.

Yeah.

And I said, you know, can you just stop a minute?

They said, yeah, yeah, I'm busy though.

I said, you watch Fox?

Yeah, I watch Fox all the time.

I said, why do you watch Fox?

And they gave me all these reasons.

So they're not conspiracists.

Are these the

mega MAGA?

Are these the people that

the only shadow of lies they do is they work very hard?

Victor,

my sister-in-law from the Dominican Republic came to America after she was 20.

And I just talked to her last night.

I never really talked to her about politics.

Huge,

huge Fox fan, huge Tucker fan, very huge Biden hater.

They don't get what they've done to the country.

They don't realize that there's been.

Jack, there's been one good thing about this madness from 2021 to the present.

They have managed to bring a lot of people together across religious, ethnic, and racial lines to a new class,

a new class, a solidly middle-class people who cannot stand the bicultur elite, are scared to death of the FBI, the DOJ, the IRS, because they've been weaponized.

They feel that they can't fully express themselves because we're not living in a free country anymore.

And they feel that...

If they speak out, they will be put in jail.

They're afraid of the government.

And these people want to perpetuate that.

And so

we'll see what happens.

But everybody that's out there listening,

one of the nicest and most pleasant time,

two hours of my life

was we went over to a friend and watched the 2016 election, and she happened to doze off.

And then we, my wife and I, were watching

and she woke up and she said, Oh, did Trump lose?

He said, no, he didn't.

And so she said,

can we please watch CNN and MSNBC?

So people were, they were crying.

They were hysterical.

They were screaming.

They were like, it was like, oh, there's still Ohio.

And then the anchor would say, well, our team says that even if he were to win Ohio, it wouldn't matter.

Oh, what

Pennsylvania is still out.

And they couldn't accept it.

And they went ballistic.

And I think the same thing is going to happen Tuesday night.

So everybody tune in and channel surf and see how they react to this.

Right.

You have a little more upside there because you, you know, we stay up till three o'clock to watch the and drink the drink the liberal tears.

But yeah, you get, it's a little more normal time for you to do that.

I'm planning on staying up very late Tuesday night into Wednesday morning to enjoy it.

So, anyway, Victor, we got one other thing we're going to talk about, and that's the ongoing weirdness of this Paul Pelosi story and the news coverage of it.

And let's get to that right after this final important message.

Back with the Victor Davis-Hansen show recording on Saturday, November 5th.

Today, you're listening is Election Day, and you will

hopefully this will be a great night for

all of us who are conservatives and those of us who love liberty and love our country and

see it at the abyss and don't want it to fall into the abyss.

So, meanwhile, though, Victor,

Paul Pelosi, speaker's husband, attacked,

hospitalized, brain surgery.

I believe he's out of the hospital now

as we speak.

Yesterday or the day before, there was a

detailed NBC news story about, well, what happened?

As many people, you know, some people want to hypothesize,

well, conspiracy theories, some conspiracy theories actually

end up being the truth if you've ever watched

forensic files.

But

there was an NBC news report about

what actually happened in the first few minutes when the police

arrived at the Pelosi house.

And then it was pulled off the air, pulled off the air.

And the only brief explanation was NBC said

it did not meet our journalistic standards, which I think is the same lingo that's been used in the past.

Why

Tom Cotton

in the New York Times,

why the editors there were fired and things like that.

It's kind of now the go-to excuse.

But

look, I don't particularly want to dwell on

Paul Pelosi and the assault on him, but

the way it's being

handled in the press, it seems like there's some privilege being given.

Was Nancy Pelosi pissed off about the coverage?

And all of a sudden, NBC bowed to her.

And I mean, that's my immediate

non-non-I hope it's non-conspiratorial thought.

Anyway, Victor, it's a little troubling.

Well, there's something.

Yeah, I don't know.

As I said when we first discussed it, I don't think anybody knows what happens.

But if I were the Pelosis

and I was confident in their narrative, what happened, then I would want the following to happen.

I would want them to release the 911 call.

I would want them to have the body cam calls,

the body cam videos of the police who arrived.

I would want them to have the security camera all released.

I would want a press conference with the officers who were there without their supervisors and get it all out.

But they don't want that.

And so, what they're doing is, on the one hand, they're saying, oh, this is horrible that these conspiracy people.

And then they're feeding these conspiracies by saying,

originally, the police came and were let in by an unidentified person.

Police, next iteration, the police came and were let in by a third person.

The police came in and were let in by Paul Pelosi.

Now, how hard was it to say that at the beginning?

And then they said, I looked at a fact checker.

All the fact checking is sad.

It's so pathetic.

It's fact-checked.

A lot of people on the right say Paul Paul Pelosi was in his underwear and this man was in his shorts.

Paul Pelosi was not in his underwear.

He was wearing a t-shirt and boxer shorts.

What are boxer shorts?

I wear boxer shorts.

Isn't that underwear?

And it is in my house.

Exactly.

So that is a fact check.

And then

what were they doing for 30 minutes?

And so I don't,

I'm perfectly willing to believe what I want to believe that the poor man was just upstairs asleep.

There was a complete nut, hippie, crazy, unstable person that somehow knew where he lived, somehow got there, took a hammer, broke in.

Somehow the security camera was not on or the alarm system was not on.

He prowled around the house.

He went up to his room.

He threatened him.

He said he was going to wait for his wife to come there for 30 or so minutes.

He just stared him down and finally Pelosi figured out he could go in the bathroom.

He didn't have, he called and maybe he didn't close the door and lock himself in because he wanted to have a live streaming.

Two minutes later, the police there, they both come down.

Maybe he

was afraid the guy was going to attack him.

They're sitting there with, I'm perfectly willing to believe that.

I think that's could well have happened.

But you're never going to convince most people that that happened until you come clean and you give the evidence and you can't keep contradicting and saying, we're not, we're going to fire that person for reporting that.

We withdraw that report.

We're not going to release the nine.

Just let it all out.

Let the truth will set you free.

And that's the problem they're having.

And then the idea that you're going to take this story where you're not transparent.

and you're trying to suppress elements of it, and then you're going to use it in the last week of a campaign in a very dastardly way to suggest that this is a right-wing nut who

gorges and swallows all the right-wing MAGA propaganda, and therefore the MAGA propaganda is responsible for him.

That is even worse,

especially given the pride flag, the BLM flag, the nudist colony where he lived, comme

hippie place he lives.

He's just a nut.

And so

what's happening is, I look as an outsider,

rather

they're not confident about the narrative, but they are confident that anybody who is not confident about the narrative, like they're not confident about the narrative, is a, I don't know, a horrible person is attacking the Pelosi family.

No doubt some are.

But if you're so confident about the narrative and the facts, and these people are conspiracy theorists, then

give us the evidence so you can discredit them in the public square.

But they won't.

They either don't give the evidence or they keep modulating it.

And you know what that means.

It means that the two officers went there, they talked to some friends.

You know, this is weird.

And then the friends talk, and then the rumor gets out, and then the supervisor gets a call from somebody and says, damn it, you want your job?

You've silenced that.

And so that's what's happening until somebody takes responsibility, sits at a table with the officers and says, these people are here, these two officers are here for questions, and they can answer any question that does not directly harm the investigation.

And go to it.

And here on this screen is the security cameras of the break-in.

On this screen is the body cams of the officers themselves.

And you're now hearing the 911 tape.

I think we're trying to be as transparent to dispel these crazy conspiracy theories.

It's all they'd have to do.

They could do it in two hours.

Victor, before we end, I'm going to be a bad boy, and I'm going to throw you a curveball.

Or I'm going to raise something I didn't discuss with you in advance.

But you're pretty smart.

I think you can handle it.

And maybe in just like two or three minutes, I just saw a story about Joe Manchin

savagely attacking Joe Biden for Biden being out there there saying, well, you know, gloriously the last couple of days, we're going to shut down all the coal plants.

Hallelujah.

And it's all going to be wind and solar.

And this sap who helped pass this last bill to further inflate the economy, Joe Manchin, all right, you know, we were all like, okay, Joe, he's our, you know,

the difference between madness and not madness.

Well, he caved in to Biden.

And now he's,

now he's bitching and moaning.

And earlier in the show, you said something like, shut the F up.

And that's what I'd love to say to Joe Manchin, shut up.

You know what?

What did you think was going to happen with this guy?

What he's going to do to your constituents.

I think his little two-step is over with.

He was supposed to represent the old West Virginia, came out of the Depression.

They were appreciative of FDRs, you know, Tennessee Valley Authority type public works,

and they were strong union people.

And the Democratic Party was pro-union, and

that's no longer true.

It's dissipated.

And this man is a relic, an ossified, calcified relic of that age, and he plays that part.

I don't,

he comes back to it.

You don't know how crazy these guys are in the Democratic Party, but I'm still there for the working man.

That's his shtick, and it doesn't matter.

It's just insane because he's joining forces that are going to destroy these people's livelihoods.

And that's why he's not going to get elected in two years.

And more importantly,

you know,

when he works with Biden, where does Biden get this idea he's going to shut down coal plants?

It was exactly verbatim what Barack Obama said in 2009.

He said, I'm going to shut down the coal plants.

And I think I'm quoting, you guys can check me, I think I'm quoting almost literally, and

electricity rates are going to skyrocket.

And he was channeling Stephen Chu, his designate energy secretary.

He said, we have to find a way to make our prices reach European levels in terms of gas.

Right, right.

And that's why when you send Biden out there on the campaign trail and you send Obama and you send Hillary, and you were sending Pelosi into it recently, they're not going to be effective because all Biden did was have the insanity to enact the most radical proposals that these guys wanted to do, but their advisors said, you know what, Brock, don't shut down all the coal plants.

And we're getting hurt in the 2010 midterms because of gas prices.

Just cool the Stevens Shoe stuff.

And they did.

But

how are they going to campaign and say,

Joe Biden is ruining everything when Biden's click and cadre are bragging to themselves and to the country into leaking, oh, we're doing what Barack Obama couldn't do.

He thought he could do it.

He thought he was a community organizer.

He thought he was a left cool hipster, but we did things that he didn't even dare imagine.

We're so far beyond him on the scale of left-wing radicals.

He's a has-been.

And he is a has-been.

When you look at him coming out, it's like he's ripped Van Winkle.

It's 2022, and he thinks it's 2008.

It's like the 2008.

He's gray, he's thinner, he doesn't look as hale, but but he's rolled up his sleeves.

He has the same shirt.

He rolls up his sleeves.

He gets in front of a crowd.

He modulates his patois.

So it's sometimes it's the little nerd from Harvard or prep school in Honolulu.

And then it's the black preacher who grew up in the South.

And then

he gets into the modulation.

He thinks, okay, it's been about 60 seconds.

Now I got to go into my mock angry road.

And these people are like, they're going to cut your song of coolie.

And they're, oh, you work hard and they're going to just cut you.

And then he calms down.

And after he's riled everybody up and devowes, we got to be careful about rhetoric.

And then he gets off the check stage and he says to himself,

do I go to the estate in Hawaii?

Do I go to the estate in Colorama?

Or do I go back to Martha's Vineyard?

But I don't go to my fourth mansion?

I'm not going back to my fourth mansion in Chicago.

Hell no.

Hell no.

By the way, Victor, it's any of these people that are bringing out of mothballs.

I just don't see how they don't, whoever they are,

that Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris coming to the aid of Kathy Hochl in New York at some campaign rally.

Does anyone really think that's a gift for Zeldon?

My God.

I'm just waiting for Al Gore to show up and John Kerry and a joint and parent saying, you know, this is wonderful.

The gasoline is 650 in California.

Oh, my God.

I was in Los Angeles yesterday at

680.

What were you doing there?

What are you doing there?

The Claremont

Institute gave me the Henry Smith.

I want you to brag.

Yeah, go ahead.

Yeah, it was very

wonderful group of people.

I know that the Claremont people have taken an undue

level of criticism, but it's not justified.

They're wonderful people and they have been very influential in trying to

take these

ideas about

getting tough with China and

preserving Americans' independence in manufacturing and assembly, closing the border.

resuming to a melting pot idea about race, and then

translating all that into particular policy initiatives for the Congress.

So I think you're going to hear even more about them.

It was just a wonderful evening.

The people

were at the California Club, and I only had one complaint, and that is I had to drive through Los Angeles, downtown Los Angeles.

And that made me almost in a week

because that,

yeah, I go down there about every six months to downtown, and it gets worse.

And it used to be in the 90s, it was like LA never had a downtown like New York or, you know,

never had a Washington.

So we're going to have our San Francisco.

So we're going to have skyscrapers and we're going to have people downtown.

And it was beautiful.

They had parks and it almost looked like Avenue of the Americas in its heyday.

It was really beautiful.

They have these beautiful skyscrapers and it was just packed.

30 years ago.

And there was no homeless, there was no crime.

And it was weird.

It was kind of deserted on a Friday morning, late morning.

And there was a lot of homeless people.

And the type of people that were around were not business people.

So,

and it was kind of grungy.

It didn't look nice.

And right beyond the perimeter of the downtown, it was really bad.

And

I get a lot of melancholy.

Still, you were there?

Yeah.

You were there because

you were rightly recognized for your brilliance, the Salvatory Award.

I just want to congratulate you for that.

And you're right.

Claremont, terrific

place.

My good friend, your friend, Dan Mahoney, Chris Caldwell, their fellows who write.

I really like it.

Chris Caldwell is, I think,

in some ways, the best journalist-essayist writing today.

He's really,

when he writes, you've got to read it.

Yeah.

He wrote a very profound essay for the Claremont Review of Books, which I subscribe to.

I recommend every time he writes one, it's profound, but about uh how human resources is really the thing which is dictating so much of the madness in America now, um, where you know, race and

rights come into come into play.

It's a really profound piece.

Hey, Victor, that's about um, thanks for your

congratulations again.

Thanks for your thoughts on Mansion.

And uh, before we leave, as is our want on the end of uh, at the end of our programs, we'd like to recognize and thank

our listeners

for joining us on yet another episode and to reassure you that those of you who leave comments in various places on Victor's website, again, that's victorhanson.com, or those who rate this show on

Apple or iTunes, then thanks for doing that, those who do rate it.

And we do read the comments that some of you leave.

And I'm going to read two today.

It's very two farm ones,

and I think these are cool.

This first one is titled Workplace Wisdom.

As a heavy equipment operator in rural northeast Montana, I spend my working hours mostly in solitude.

VDH and his team transform the cab of my machine into a lecture hall filled with a wide array of political,

economical, and sociological topics from the ancient Greek to the modern days.

Every day I learn, and most every day I laugh, and I thank them for it.

This is from Becca Regal,

Workplace Wisdom.

I think that's pretty cool, Victor.

Someone's out there providing,

putting food on our table.

Yeah, absolutely.

Listeners to the show.

And then there's another one of a similar,

this is called Central Valley Farm Culture.

This is really a touching piece.

It's from Darwin Horn.

And he writes,

your discussion of the loss of our farming culture was poignant.

This on a recent episode.

The same happened in southern Illinois.

In the early 1980s, I was a grad student in St.

Louis and had a side job working as an ethnobotanist.

We surveyed the abandoned farmhouses in the agricultural region in the Illinois River Valley, looking for heirloom plants that were left behind.

The residents seemed to have disappeared suddenly.

Many of the houses still contained furniture as well as clothing left hanging in closets.

Some houses even had dishes still setting on kitchen tables, some with half-eaten meals.

It seemed apocalyptic and reminded me somewhat of Pompeii.

I too mourn the passing of this lifeway and believe that we are culturally poorer for the loss.

Thank you for personalizing it so eloquently.

Yeah, Victor, people really do dig your

talking about farm life, agriculture, growing up.

So, and I think Darwin here speaks for many people.

So, thank you, Darwin, for taking the time to leave that.

And all others who leave comments, we do read them.

Thank you very much.

Victor, thanks for all the wisdom you shared.

And we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis-Hansen Show.

Bye-bye.

Thanks, everyone, for listening.

We'll see you next time.