Things That Reveal the Struggling Left

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I'm recording from my house, by the way, Victor, and to our listeners,

if you hear dogs in the background, it's just

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So, Victor, geez, it looks like

there is a red wave and maybe even a red tsunami.

The last potential issue or

opportunity that may have come to the Democrats to forestall really, really bad day on November 8th was the economic reports that came out

last week, a few days ago from when we're recording.

But guess what?

inflation, the transitory inflation is not transitory.

It's here to stay.

And as we see the issues that are the top priority, poll after poll, the top priority issues for most voters,

there's not a Democrat issue amongst the lot.

Even the abortion was going to be some savior to the Democrats is not there.

So, Victor,

what are you thinking about the outcome of this election, forthcoming election?

Well, I'm on record saying that.

I think it's kind of a broken record that it's going to be a Republican blowout because

not because I want that necessarily, but I do, but because I can't see anything

in this whole election cycle that helps the left.

I don't see that gas prices are going to go down

because,

you know, we're not producing the extra million or two million barrels that's necessary to do that.

And we're not going to do that.

So we have this charade that we consider fossil fuels filthy, dirty, and we don't want to be tainted by it, but we want the Saudis to produce it.

And that's just not going to winning, it's not going to work.

I don't see crime going down.

I don't see the DAs suddenly in the next, I don't see Biden calling up Cascone

or Fox in Chicago and saying, would you stop that and just put those people behind bar?

I don't see that happening.

I don't see him giving a lecture about this has to stop.

So I don't think crime's going to improve.

I don't see inflation.

He said he was down,

you know, anywhere he goes, and people mention that it's California at $7 a gallon.

He says, it's always expensive here.

Ah, we're working on it.

Don't worry about it.

He doesn't care.

He doesn't care about anybody having to fill up.

So I don't see that getting the inflation.

I don't think that's going to change.

He says there was zero inflation.

That was the weirdest thing I ever heard.

So you go 9.2 and then you get 8.3.

And he says there's no inflation or 8.1 and 8.2.

And it's like, well, yeah, but it's still 8% plus more than it was last year, this month.

So it undulates up and down, but it doesn't undulate infecting the central truth that it's sky higher than last year, which is how you measure inflation.

And I don't see that getting better.

He's bragging about the Ukraine, but we can talk about that sometime.

But Vladimir Putin has always had more assets than Ukraine, and Ukraine is fighting very heroically based on its own ability to maintain that zealotry and that patriotic resistance.

But it's also predicated on the United States and Western Europe protecting it and giving it a blank check.

And I don't know how long that's going to continue with these nuclear threats.

So I don't see anything from now until

November that favors Biden.

And I see that a lot of things he's tried to do.

And thank everybody what he's tried to do.

He's tried to empty the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

It's down, what, 50%?

More than that.

I think it's gone from 800 million barrels down to 350, 400 million barrels.

He's tried to do that.

He's tried to beg people to pump oil abroad to help him.

He's tried to forgive student loans and basically said, I'll screw the working people of America that.

that worked at 18

and they're going to subsidize to their taxes the people who are taking six units of sociology for five years and got a huge debt because these people that I forgive are more likely to vote for me than the lathe worker in Columbus.

He's not going to vote for me, but maybe the Columbus student, perennial student, will.

He's done that.

He's said that COVID is still in existence at pandemic levels, so that all of these handouts can continue.

So he'll do and say anything because he doesn't have any issue, not one issue that pulls 45%.

And the other strategy of just calling everybody names and, you know, losing your temper or get off my grass type speeches, coupled with these distractions that are so merry garland, God, they're so predictable.

And the January 6th come in, as I said, the Trump raid and the nuclear secrets and, you know, tweeting out that he's like the rosenbergs and that was the our presidential historian michael beschlaw and

then that speech where he had that eerie red background it doesn't work roe versus wade just to death right and just misrepresent everything where it says you know what this is a democracy under a federal republic so it's a federal republic that has democratic aspects to it but you know what Each state knows better than the federal government how to handle this very controversial issue, so go to it.

And in a free country, if you live in Arkansas and you want an abortion on the last day, which I don't think is a very moral thing to do of your pregnancy, then get on your airplane and Gavin Newsom will probably help you with the ticket to go to California, which is going to be the abortion capital of the world.

Much more permissible and liberal than anything in Europe.

So I don't see anything.

So yes.

And then the question is, they're only starting seven or eight seats behind.

So is it going to be 34?

I think they're going to pick up 50 seats.

And then the second thing is they had a really bad cycle as far as the number of Republicans exposed versus Democrats.

So everybody said Democrats would hold the Senate.

And then the narrative was that all these crazy Trump candidates can't win.

And then the narrative was,

even if it's 50-50, Kamala Hara, I don't think it's going to be 50-50.

I think it's going to be 52 or 53 Republican seats.

I think Oz is catching up.

I'm not counting out Herschel Walker.

It's 50-50 there.

I think Blake Masters could have a late run because there's nothing, there's two things going on, Jack.

There's nothing in their opponents' campaign that anybody wants at this particular moment.

And it just depends, their success or failure depends on one thing, to the degree the Republicans can tie them to their voting record, which was 100% in favor of this disastrous Biden policy.

And if they're skilled at it, and Blake Masters in the debate was skilled, so was Fance.

Oz will be skilled at it.

I think they can win.

I think Crucial Walker can win.

I watched clips of that debate, and everybody said he didn't do well.

I thought he basically said, I'm a country boy, and I speak the truth, and I'm going to be a vote for traditional America.

And this guy is

a rhetorician and a fraud, and he's a leftist.

And we'll see how the people of Georgia interpret that.

But this whole idea that there was no red wave was just the same concoction you heard in 94 and 2010.

And the left always does it.

It's intended to suppress voter turnout and money, money, money raising.

That's it.

And they know it's a lie.

And then the polls, as we know, and particularly in Pennsylvania.

particularly in Pennsylvania, but also in Arizona, they have a record of underestimating conservative support, and they do that for obvious reasons.

Remember, Susan Collins was nine points down.

She was down, but she won by a nine points down.

No, she was down at nine points

in some polls.

Yeah.

And as well as winning by nine points.

And they're never going to change.

They're never going to change because it's an effective tactic to have a mantle of disinterested objectivity and then work to say that this candidate has no chance.

Don't give money to him.

Don't turn out.

And that's how they work it.

So

the red wave is coming.

As long as there's transparent voting procedures and all of these conservative groups, the true the vote, women, and all those people get out and they bring it and they watch, and they're poll watchers, and we watch the vote harvesting and how it's conducted.

Right.

Hey, you mentioned Majorca before.

I think you did anyway.

I wanted to,

I sent you something the other day.

I'm sorry to spring this on you, but this story that he,

the controversy of the border agents whipping, you know, the migrants coming illegally into America, the headline of the New York Post from the other day, Majorkis knew border agents did not whip migrants before

repeating false claims.

So he knew there was nothing.

you know before

the photographer said that he said he saw it and he said that it was if you took one of his photographs at a particular angle, it might look like that, but he was there and they were reining their horses who were scared about these people crossing illegally into this country.

And he knew that, but he also knew a couple of things that if he lied, there was no downside, there was an upside.

He was a loyal Biden advocate.

But if he had told the truth, and said, you know what, I just got information that suggests that they did not, and I'm not, they didn't do this, and I'm not going to accuse people falsely.

Instead,

he said it was systemic racism.

It was inevitable because racism is like oxygen.

It's everywhere.

It's systemic.

And so

there's no downside now, is there?

There would have been a downside for him if he told the truth.

The left would have cannibalized him.

But not that I'm defending him, but

He's if you're going to impeach people, he should be number one on the list for destroying.

And number two should be Merrick Garland.

Number three should be Joe Biden.

They should impeach them all and just ascend to it.

Not that they can be convicted in the Senate.

He is a toxic person.

He really is.

He has done more to change the nature of this country than any other leftist in that administration because...

The ripples of allowing three plus million people to enter this country

unaudited with no background checks.

We're going to get more and more illegal aliens like the guy in Las Vegas that just murdered people.

And we're going to see, I can see it firsthand in my community.

And I can tell you the people who are Mexican-American are not fond of this policy.

Right.

But it's very disruptive.

And

it's nihilistic.

It's anarchical.

It's designed to destroy things.

And that's what's so strange about it.

We even got the racist LA City Council complaining about it, you know, and indirectly.

So it's.

I'm just surprised, Victor, on that list of the top three that Pete Buttigieg

didn't make your top impeachment.

Yeah, it's only because he's so ineffectual.

I mean,

these people are capable liars.

I don't mean capable in their abilities, but they're accomplished liars.

They're smooth and slick.

And Pete Buttigiek is just a narcissistic, blowhard, sermonizing, sanctimonious fake.

I mean, he was a mayor, a failed mayor of

South Bend, Indiana.

He had no accomplishments.

All he was, he knew if he got into the bait stage, he sounded articulate, and he'd been over to Afghanistan.

That was about all there was.

And he was gay, and that's all he talked about.

And then anytime there was a crisis in the transportation industry, the

airlines ran out of fuel.

And I can say on four occasions, I took a airplane west and it went east to get fuel.

It was out of fuel.

They didn't fill it up.

We couldn't get any fuel.

It took off and they said, oh, by the way, we can't go to Dallas.

We can't go to Salt Lake.

We got to go to San Francisco to get fuel.

And he didn't care.

And then there were those Wild West robberies down in LA when you looked at all of those trains.

You're still there.

They're looted and you see all those poor.

Every time I see those pictures.

And I see those Amazon packages

strewn about, I think of all the people who are waiting for vitamins or a book, something very necessary, and they're never going to arrive.

And he didn't care.

At least Gavin Newsom put on his Patagonia outfit, his work outfit,

and went out there and walked around and grimaced.

But Pete Buttigig, and then when you look at

the clogged up ports and all those tankers, you know, cargo, excuse me, those cargo ships

stacked out to their right.

He didn't do anything, except he talked about endemic racism and the highway system and then he just virtue signal

well he was on family leave right yeah he was on family leave yeah yeah so hey speaking of slick uh

um

liberals or leftists you saw that brett bear

interview of of uh his name david priest price yes the former cia i gotta give the guy a tiny speck of credit that he he went on uh a bear show but my god talk about none of those people that he's one of the 50 who signed the uh yeah the this the laptop laptop hunter's laptop may have been um uh russian disinformation etc etc

totally unrepentant totally absolutely arrogantly unrepentant he styles himself an academic and i think he's written a couple books he's got a phd and he's got this smug idea that he's the thinking man CIA agent.

And he got on there and I thought Rhett Baer could have grilled him a little bit more effectively because his defense was simply what the Romans and the Greeks knew as praetoretio.

And that means the following.

If I'm Demosthenes and I'm in a speech attacking Eschines, I said, the fact that my opponent's mother conducted prostitution in an outhouse in a graveyard has nothing to do with his character.

And that's what he was basically saying.

He said, oh, yes, I signed a petition that said and brought it up that this

missing laptop has all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation, wink nod, but I didn't say that it was Russian disinformation.

I'm just throwing it out there.

And so it was really disingenuous.

And of course,

I thought Rick Bear could have said, well, you know, you didn't do that.

You used the fee days of the CIA, as John Brennan and Clapper had done with the National Security Agency,

Director of National Intelligence, CIA, FBI, all of you used your impromatures to mislead the country with a tiny little escape.

It's sort of like you go and buy a used car and there's 17 pages and you see one little thing that says, oh, by the way, if your cylinder heads cracked in 30 days, we're not liable.

And then we told you, that kind of stuff.

So we told you, we didn't say it was.

And so it worked.

And when you had that, you had that disturbing poll that a third of the population, no, it was a majority of the population, I think, thought that had they known that the laptop was a complete fraud and hidden by the FBI, they might have affected their view of the election.

And so that it really hurt Trump because it was not only that Hunter Biden was a, was

not,

that he was, all those things that were incriminating about Biden were not true, but it was that Donald Trump and his people in cahoots with the Russian wink-nod, with the Russians, were doing just what they did, wink-nod with the dossier and the Russian collusion hoax.

So it was a double whammy.

It made Biden exempt and it made Trump people look bad again.

It was a complete lie.

I don't know if there's ever going to be justice for all this.

I don't know.

It's really, it's really disturbing.

You know, I'm 69.

I love this country, but in my

old age, I'm getting just to look at what's happened to this country and what this crazy left has done.

And it's all done it on this ancient historical premise that if you're for social equality and

equality, quality, equity of result, as mandated by an elite member of government, membership of government, platonic guardians who are going to adjudicate all this, if you're for that, then any means necessary or permissible for that agenda.

There's no worry that it's amoral or illegal.

Right.

That's not even just something in the last year or two.

I've mentioned this before, Victor, but Sandy Berger, you know, stealing things and walking out.

And why doesn't a guy like that do stealing national security document go to jail how come they the they the they they never pay a price it's maddening uh we'll all pay a price when we get to st.

Peter but uh it would be nice to see some of these uh schmucks get it

if anybody anybody that's listening

If you get a meeting, a knock on your door by one of the new 87,000 armed IRS agent who's going to come to your house and say, we looked at your return and we don't believe that that home office is a legitimate deduction.

And you owe us at 1.5% interest a month, $100,000.

And when you accompany me, and if you said, I can't remember.

I remember James Comey said that.

Or if you want to do the Andrew McCabe tact and said, oh,

I never said that I

took my office off.

That's your problem.

I didn't do that.

You can either say you have amnesia or you flat out lie like FBI directors do.

It's not going to work.

So that's where we are now.

We have this professional class, and they get on Twitter and Facebook, and

they quote philosophers, they show little pictures of scenic wildlife, and this is all supposed to cement their image that they're not Trump and they're not Hoi Paloi and that they're part of a sophisticated professional class to bi-coastal elites, and therefore

they're exempt.

They're despicable people, all of them, because they use their education and their privilege to destroy the

legal corpus.

They do, they don't care about the law.

If you don't have equal opportunity, the main thing that any society historically rests on is the equal application of the law.

And when you destroy that,

it doesn't work.

That was one of the things that plagued the South throughout

its

its entire existence, is that the plantation class was not only exempt

in a way

from any

ramifications of the law in a way that the poor white working class, but of course you had all

these millions of slaves that were completely born on U.S.

soil, treated entirely different.

That's why it was such a bankrupt society.

That who you were and how much money you had determined what the government said and did and and treated and and the way they went about treating you they were the government and so even into reconstruction you know there was still not equal application of the law no all the way i would argue all the way into the 1950s right and people forget that that society was also very discriminatory about uh the white middle class there wasn't much of a middle class given the legacy of the plantationists

and uh

and so that was what was ironic about this.

The civil rights movement was supposedly based on one thing: that we want equal application of the law, regardless of race or income.

And that's what we all wanted.

And that's what we fought for.

And then when we got it, we find out that some pigs are more equal than other pigs.

Right.

And

it's really just disturbing to see what's happened.

Also, disturbing, Victor, are

recent killings of some police officers and we're going to get your thoughts on

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Victor, not far from where I live,

two police officers were murdered the other day.

One was shot in critical condition.

They were lured into this

by two creeps lured into this

fake, you know, contrived 911 call just to be blown away.

And this was in a week where

many other across the nation, other police officers were killed, which seems to be like, you know, every week in America now.

Now, in Connecticut,

the same governor

that two years ago

happily signed a new law that would really disempower, if that's the word, police officers, make them liable to really expose them.

He, of course, immediately, Ned Lamont, and he's up for re-election, immediately,

you know, decried what happened, as he should have,

flags at mass, etc.

Same thing from state legislators, the legislators who passed the law that really hurt our police officers in this state.

And it's the kind of law that was passed in many states by the same people who were calling for defunding police.

And now they're, you know, caught by the shorthairs.

So, Victor, this is a political issue, it's a moral issue.

It's, of course, tied into the elections.

Crime is one of the top concerns for American voters, most American voters.

I don't know if there's anything you'd like to say.

Well, please.

I wrote an article once called Deterrence Makes the World Go Round.

And I bet I meant all of our

activities as humans, and given human nature

what it is,

that there has to be some conscious awareness of rewards and punishments, rewards for good behavior,

punishments for bad, because we're born into this world as flawed creatures.

And some of us will not, on our own, become good citizens.

We have, you know, they have, they will do things that are otherwise injurious to others unless they're deterred.

It's a word from Latin, de terio, to terrify or to make somebody afraid of something, from doing something.

We always use it in the terms of, you know, nuclear deterrence or military deterrence.

You know, don't try something because if you do you're going to really regret it that kind of stuff and we have it in our own lives but we destroyed all the deterrence that the police enjoyed once we had this rash of two or three things in the summer of 2020.

First of all was the defund the police.

And it was all based on the lie that followed from the death of George Floyd, that he was typical of an epidemic of African-American innocent men who were being shot while unarmed or killed during police custody.

And if you didn't know that, you wouldn't believe that statistics or the Washington Post, of all people, did extensive and exhaustive investigations.

And when you look at the rubric

of all people who come in contact with the police, that is arrest or suspicion of arrest, any of that, 11 million something every year.

The number of African-Americans that are shot while on arm by the police statistically is no higher than white males in accordance with their demographics.

So it was a lie, and yet they used that lie for political purposes, the left did.

It created BLM.

It made a kind of a pathetic movement that emerged after Trayvon Martin into a corporate sweetheart deal.

It made Jesse Jackson shake down efforts with Operation Push look like an amateur gambit.

It was just so sophisticated at that time.

And then there were the so-called Soros district attorneys, Chicago, Baltimore, Seattle, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, San Francisco.

And they essentially threw out the corpus of jurisprudence.

They just didn't arrest people.

They didn't indict people.

They didn't incarcerate.

incarcerate them.

They didn't convict them.

They didn't do anything.

They let them out.

Often the same day, Mr.

Axe Man in New York, remember him?

He was out the same day.

And I could go on, but piece by piece, insidiously, incrementally, they destroyed the deterrent ability of the police.

That meant when you walk down a street, there was that very famous clip during this period where I think it was in New York, Jack, where they threw water on the police or they dumped stuff on them and they yelled and screamed at them, inner city community, and they had to leave.

And I thought to myself, no one respects the police anymore.

No one respects them.

And so now it is open game.

And it's not like the police were the FBI.

If the police were shooting people unarmed statistically in a racist fashion, I can see why people would want to defund them in their own communities if that was true of their own community.

But that wasn't.

It was a political gambit.

Part of it was involved as a lead up to the election that Donald Trump incited riots or when Kamala Harris said, this is not going to end and nor should it end.

It's going to go on and on.

Later, she said, I didn't mean riots, even though it was two weeks after that violent riot in Washington.

She knew what she was saying.

My point is, it was a political act to make Trump look either racist or incompetent and couldn't control the level of violence in

major American cities.

But in that process, it became an acceptable thing to attack the police.

And so now you have a situation where there's a lot of people who are coming out of the woodwork and are firing on, killing police.

And why are they doing that?

They're doing it besides their evil, because they feel that ultimately they will not face a,

I don't know, a sure arrest, a sure conviction, a sure incarceration.

It's somewhere down that line of jurisprudence, they will find an out, or that there will be large people in the community that will sympathize with them.

And so it's horrible.

So every policeman policeman now in an underfunded city police department knows that when you get a call to go somewhere to a domestic residence, it's a lose, lose, lose situation.

If you go there and somebody's armed or you have a confrontation and for whatever reason that person is wounded or killed, you're going to be,

that's it for you.

Even if

that's it, you're done for.

If you go in there and you decide that you're not going to let that happen, if you shoot and kill a person,

I'm talking in the first sense about wounding them.

If you shoot to kill a person, you're done.

That's it.

If you say to yourself, you know what?

I can't wound this person.

I can't use any violence.

I can't use strong language.

And I certainly can't use my firearm to save my life.

So I'm going to...

roll the dice and be very polite, then you're taking a risk of being shot.

And that's not the end of it.

You're going to be shot with absolutely no public contrition.

You're not going to have a big, nice media.

This person was heroically there.

And we all know you're going to have a lot of people just, it's too bad.

Too many police coming to them.

Right.

Had them coming to it.

And so they have a fourth option.

If you don't want to go to a domestic residence and use force, you know, push, hit, to save yourself or to stop it, or you can't shoot, or you're going to be shot, you have a fourth choice.

And that means you're not going to go.

Right.

So that, you know, 911, oh, my husband's been beating me.

Let me look, hold on, let me look at the zip code.

Hmm, been there, done that.

I ain't going.

And so that's happening as we speak.

And that's contributing to the crime rate as well, especially when there's not enough officers.

And, you know, I think it's very unfair to minority officers, because if you're in a big city, and the inner city has said again and again that we don't trust the police, A, and B, we want people of color police into our communities,

then you can see what the onus is put on minority officers.

Because when these domestic calls come out, depending on the race of the person, they will, in our tribal society, they will want somebody of that race.

And believe me, this white shooter will not shoot a policeman because he's white, and the black shooter will not shoot a policeman because he's black.

And so it's, it's, it's all, it's just a horrible situation.

And we should,

all of these,

there's only one remedy immediately.

A Republican governor in some states can relieve these DAs,

even though they were elected.

They need to do all they can in that regard.

And we tried to recall the LA DA Gascon, and all of a sudden, mysteriously, the signatures were said to have been improper.

They're suing.

They're going to try to do it again.

We did recall

Boudin in San Francisco, but they've got to recall these people.

They've got to fund the police.

Anybody who stands up, any candidate who said,

I'm for defunding the police, that should be an automatic no vote on that person's re-election.

And yet you can see it when they all deny it.

This is what's so fascinating.

I've been watching these clips of campaigns of Walker and Warnick or Blake Masters and Kelly or

Vance and Ryan, or, you know, and it's amazing how these left-wing candidates do do not own what they vote for.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, they own it as much as, you know, people think that they're just

getting sunk by Biden, but they're getting sunk by their own voting records.

Yeah, it is.

I mean, basically, the subtext of all of these Senate candidates is,

well, I did vote for this crazy social agenda, and then we have crime that spiked, and we have tensions that spiked, and we have inflation and gas and no border.

But I'm a Democrat.

I'm a leftist.

So I'm always in a pinch going to give out free stuff.

Like the, you know, I'm going to give out the student loan exemptions.

And I'm going to still say it's COVID.

So the checks keep coming.

And that's the only thing they've got.

And I hope that people say, you know what, every time you send a check to somebody, including myself, if you are one person who gets a check, all you do is inflate the economy.

And I end up paying one way or the other at the gas pump or at the meat counter or something for your inflationary policies

well victor one politician who um

has had enough of that who was a democrat who is no longer a democrat is tulsi gabbard i don't think it's any surprise that she

uh has left the party but she did and she did it in a pronounced way

so uh i'm just curious we've never i don't recall us ever talking about her before.

Do you have what are your thoughts about

Steven and her and herself, if that's a proper phrase?

I just spent two weeks ago in Spokane.

I spoke to a group later in the evening, and she was the earlier speaker.

So we sat together for dinner and I had a long conversation with her.

And it was clear to me that she had gone through a political transformation in this sense: that when she was on the stage in 2020 as a strong critic of optional wars, and she had warned warned about the abuse of power of the deep state.

She had done that from sort of a traditional democratic point of view that no longer was operative in her party.

What I'm trying to say is that she was kind of like a Frank Church or an earlier ACLU

or a Democrat in the 1950s warning about McCarthyism.

But they don't exist anymore.

They're just either with us.

for any any means necessary or you're a pariah.

And she had gone beyond that now And she'd seen that the fact that you couldn't do that in that party, that is voice legitimate bipartisan criticism of whether it's an optional war or, you know, suggests you should be very skeptical or worry about a blank check given to the Ukrainians, given the stakes that could ensue for us in a nuclear standoff with Putin.

But she had gone beyond that worry of the FBI overreach or CIA.

And now she was talking about things that I couldn't believe she would mention.

I don't think any Democratic politician, for that matter, any Republican will talk about it.

And one of the things she's talked about is systemic anti-white racism by all of these groups that think it's, you know,

it's, you just get a blank check.

I was watching on television, I just surfed channel.

You wouldn't believe, Jack, the number of movies or something to the effect of white men can't jump, white people are stupid, or white a buffoon.

They have it in the title even.

And you look at those commercials and it's almost the reverse of the racist step and fetch it of the 1940s.

It's the dumb white guy who just sits around with a perplexed, lost look on his face while some person of color instructs him how to use the garage, new garage door opener, how to open his new luxury car or any of this stuff.

And then you...

correlate that with a Joy Reed, you know, screaming all this racist stuff without any pushback or Maxine Waters or white, white, white, white, white.

And everybody knows what's going on.

It's not just, and you saw it with the LA City Council when they call him a white bitch.

And

so everybody knows it.

Yeah, a white, a homosexual,

gay white man.

So

my point is everybody knows that everybody's afraid, but she's not.

It's one of the things that she mentioned that night.

It's one of the things she mentioned in her video that it's anti-white racism and it's destruction of the concept of free speech.

And so she's developing as an independent.

She's not going to register, I don't think, as a Republican, but she's positioning herself,

I suppose,

of being sort of a, I don't think she's going to run as a third party candidate, but I can see her positioning herself, if that's her aim, politically, as maybe a high-level appointee in a conservative administration.

Yeah.

Well, you know, her political chops are

skills are pretty solid.

I mean, she did kneecap

WhatsAppus, our vice president in those debates.

She did.

She did.

She really, and that resonates today.

And that's always a good sign of a candidate when they say something in a debate that years later still resonates.

When she said to Kamala Harris, well, then you put all these people in jail for truancy and minor marijuana possession because Kamala Harris, of all people, was bragging about her administration decriminalizing marijuana, which was her criminalization of a mere possession was one of the things that she wrote

as her former self-reputation as a crime fighter.

You know, another thing, just, you know, I always look at stuff when I go speak.

What's happened today is if you go speak in a venue, it's not, you know, showing up at 7 o'clock for your talk or 7.30 for dinner.

It's you go, it's a six to seven hour marathon because the groups, you know, they have to raise money to hire a speaker.

You come in.

So, what usually happens, you have a VIP reception for 30 or 40 minutes, and then you have a photo op in the age of COVID.

You know, it's kind of weird because you might have 400 people that you take pictures with in an hour and a half.

Then you have the regular reception, and then you may have

a final meet and greet.

Then you have the dinner, and then you speak, and then there's a book signing, or there's a smoker or something.

And it's a six-hour marathon.

And so, what when I've done that, and I usually have to do it,

I'm not going to speak as much anymore because of other concerns.

But my point is, I watch how other people handle that.

It's not, and I won't mention a name of a very prominent never-Trumper, but I was with him when he said to people, I'm not going to sign that.

Don't bug me.

No, I won't do that.

Oh, I'm not shaking her hand.

Just get away.

Really?

Yes.

You tell me offline.

I want to know.

I will tell you.

I think people wouldn't, if I told you, they'd say, yep, that makes sense, but I'm not going to say.

But in her case, we were there and we finished the op-ed, and then a couple came late.

We were sitting down talking, and they said, but

we came late.

Can you go back where we were there and stand there?

And we said, yes.

And she was

affable, talked to the people.

We went back and sat down.

Two more couples came and said, but I want a picture.

And then the host, one of the host committee members said, well, I'm sorry, the photo op session has now been, we're into the VIP and they're not.

No, no, that's okay.

I'll do it.

And then during the evening, you know, we were sitting at the table and people came up and said, I got to talk to you.

And interrupted conversation, talked to her.

That entire entire time, nobody was watching.

And she was completely affable, personable, nice, just as they're, that's one of the few public figures.

And I see a lot of them that in private, their personas are synonymous with their public appearances.

And

that's really, I thought that was on, I did ask her one question.

I said Tulsi because I developed a, a liking for Tulsi tea, you know, I think it's called holy basic basil, basil, holy basil.

You mean like T, T-E-A-T, drinkable tea?

Or yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

T-U-L-S-I.

And that's an, I think it comes from India, the practice.

We know it is holy basil, but it's supposedly an antioxidant, anti-inflammatory relaxant.

So I just said to her, because I drink it sometimes.

In fact, I'm having a cup right now.

And I said to her,

Were you named after a tea?

And she said, yes, I was.

You're the first person that mentioned that to me oh wow so holy holy basil bat man all right i i

i think her father uh was hindu

religion yeah yeah yeah i think she's a she's part a quarter somalian from samoa samoan i think right her father was and then

a mixed parent, mixed Samoan and married.

I think his mother was from the Midwest and they moved, she said, when she was a little girl to Hawaii.

Yeah.

For some reason, I think that there's Rome that she was Catholic too, but I believe she is Hindu now and

has been.

Yeah, I think she is.

Yeah.

All right.

Well,

that's good to hear.

She's very knowledgeable.

I know that she comes off as very therapeutic and empathetic, but that's not a fake.

I watched her.

And some people can be very pushy.

You know, you'll just be eating and you're writing a conversation and you're saying to her, what what do you think of the, excuse me, excuse me, I don't want to interrupt your dinner, but I got an idea that came up to me and I want to put it past you.

And they're standing right in, but, you know, right

and they start screaming on you.

And I always say, what is it?

You know, or I sigh, but she was, she was, I'll be happy to hear what you have to say.

Yeah, no problem.

If anybody at the table object, I, I have no, and that's the way she was the whole evening.

Yeah.

I, on that last point, and we have have to move on to one final topic, but I, you know, the pleasure of having lunch with you and Dan Mahoney earlier this year.

And

just some,

you were,

I was really suffering at my worst long COVID, the first month of it.

You were, you were in a bad way, but even you in a bad way is a good thing.

And yeah, someone just came over and there, there's X amount of people, percentage of people out there that think nothing of

being the, you know, the turn in the punch bowl of a private conversation or private meeting.

And you have to have endured that.

Yeah, I have.

And that, and that, I remember that particular case, not only did he come at lunch, but we were just breaking up.

So when I was walking back to the hotel elevator, he followed me.

He was ready to get in the elevator.

And I kind of felt bad.

And I said, you know, I'm not infectious, but I have long COVID.

So if I don't sound enthusiastic, it's because I'm completely wiped.

As soon as I use the C word, COVID.

Magic.

Watch me make you disappear.

Yeah.

All right.

Hey, hey, Victor, we have, we're going to talk about one more thing on this podcast, and that's going to be a serious matter.

Iran, the riots there, Saudi Arabia.

I think it's

one ball of wax we can get you to discuss briefly.

And we'll do that right after this final important message.

we're back with the Victor Davis Hansen show.

And I do have one more commercial to mention.

And I had

someone gave me some grief on

email.

How come you didn't tell me or tell us yet that there's an app for Victor Hansen's website, VictorHanson.com?

I think Sammy just

got it.

Yeah, it's up.

So I thought, you know, I knew there was a beta.

I looked at a beta

and to help try to test it in my ineptitude.

But if you go to the Google Play Store,

you can find the app.

Now, I'm not sure if it's, if you look under Victor Hansen or if you look under the blade of Perseus,

but you'll find it.

You will find it.

She's been very, Sammy has been telling me all of her work with PayPal, you know, because of that illegal extortionist idea they floated that leaked that they had the legal and moral right to go into your PayPal account.

Right.

Well, Max, let's you want to talk about that briefly?

I just did.

They thought they could confiscate $2,500 of your money as judge, jury, and executioner because they didn't like your opinions.

And of course, when that got out, Poor Sammy, who also, in addition to being one of our podcast hosts, handles the website

and the podcast, was just inundated with people saying, I can't use PayPal.

I'm sorry.

So she was, she's getting another venue or already has as well as PayPal.

But that was a multi-billion dollar stop lapse.

I think.

I think things have got

wide scale.

I'm not using this anymore.

Yeah.

Well, it couldn't happen to nicer people, but that is the, you know, how many, in so many ways in our, we can, we conduct our lives or businesses electronically.

And, uh you know for example salesforce which is a you know huge company that's used for you know all kinds of other businesses use it for their data systems but if you're a conservative organization guess what you know you're going to be deplatformed or you know even major banks i remember wells fargo a few years ago if you're you know in business with anything to do with guns or knives

uh we're not going to do business with you and i always thought it was funny because the wells fargo logo was a stagecoach with a guy on it with his shotgun, right?

You know, but

it is difficult for people on the right or not of the left to conduct business in the

society or even just house their own money

in a way that's

not going to lead to potential abuse by the left.

So I mean,

I think it makes,

I think it's, you know, its profits is like 5 billion.

I don't talk about the multi-billion or even trillion dollars and dollar amount of transactional volume, but my God, I think they net in the many billions, $4 or $5 billion net.

So when they, when they, I don't know who would be so insane even to write a memo that would violate the trust because their whole brand is use us

and

the thief, the cyber

criminal,

the doxer, and none of them can touch you.

And then to go in there and violate that trust, even if it was theoretical and not actualized, is just the height of insanity.

Right.

And it's, it's, but, and it also feeds into that narrative of Amazon and Google and Apple trying to strangle Parlier in the cradle as they did right after January 6th.

Demon Nunes's and the Trump Truth Social and Google, you know, not putting it on its app store, deliberately trying to punish them, or the Merrick Garland SEC going out of its way

to deny a merger that would be necessarily

an infusion of cash through a public offering.

All of these government-dash Silicon Valley efforts to stifle competition

and to do anything other than what they're supposed to do, that is provide a product and a service, but they can't keep their hands off of that.

And so, PayPal was just insane.

And, you know, it was so weird because it came out at the same time that Gavin Newsom signed a bill here in California saying that doctors who promulgate disinformation as, and they defined it as misinformation.

Right.

They defined it as

advocacy or thoughts or information that is contrary to the accepted scientific consensus.

And I'm thinking, according to their standard, Madame Curie, Pasteur, Jenner, none of them would ever be able to

have said anything.

And then who would have been able to say something?

The guy who told us you need one shot, two shots, three shots, four shots, five MRNA shots, wear one mask, no mask, two masks.

The guy ideas to go on a cruise ship, but no travel ban.

That guy, who shall remain unmentionable.

Does his name rhyme with

phony flouchy?

It does.

I'm laughing because

I don't wish anybody unhappiness.

But when I see his face these days

and he looks at this midterm,

he looks wrinkled and tired.

You know why?

Because he has a rendezvous with Rand Paul.

And he has been so rude and obstructive.

And Rand Paul is going to barbecue him he really is he's going to rake him over the coals and he's going to do that because he's got the truth on his side because when those emails are revealed about gain in function uh subsidies and then we have peter dasik getting more money from the fauci health conglomerate right so it's not going to be good and then and fauci himself how these guys can

well we all know they they they go into government service and they come out multi-millionaires.

So anyway, Pfizer

and all of that.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, let's wrap up today's show with your thoughts.

And maybe I shouldn't stick them together, but there are these

significant ongoing riots in Iran

where there's still, I think I read an article.

yesterday or maybe it was early this morning of uh 200 people uh protesters who've been gunned down by

the government.

But these are, I mean, that this is persisting with such bloodshed shows

a strong degree of desire for change among the Iranian people.

And this, I don't think it's unimportant

to

put this in the same discussion bucket as what Joe Biden and his and his

attitude and policy towards Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is not the kingdom of heaven,

but

it's

clearly a player for many reasons, and it's also a counter to the

truly despicable Iranian government.

So, I don't know, Victor, that's a big blob there.

But if you have any thoughts about what's happening in Iran, yeah, I mean, the thing, Iran is sitting on a volcano for two reasons.

One,

for all of its talk about being a Shia Persian nation, it's not.

It's only, I don't know what it is, 60% Persian by population.

They've got Kurds, they've got Aboriginis, they've got Lures, they've got Armenians, they've got Arabs.

40% of the

country is not Persian.

So they've got ethnic tension.

And this woman that was killed was, I think, Kurdish.

So there's a subtext that a Persian elite has not fairly shared the reins of power in a tribal society.

Hint, hint about where we don't want to go.

Second, and more importantly, actually, I shouldn't say second, is that this is not a theocracy in the traditional sense,

Aztec theocracy or something.

It is a corrupt theocracy.

So the Rapanjani family, I mean, they have apartment buildings, they have stocks, they have real estate in Europe, the United States.

They're corrupt.

And so when these people are told to cover up, they see these people in the cleric class driving around in Mercedes and BMWs and private jets at the airport.

It's a total, it's just as corrupt or more corrupt than the Shah without the pretend.

The Shah at least didn't have the pretense that the Shah's government was this devout Islamic purity.

It wasn't.

And everybody knew it.

But this group,

you know, 45 years, 43 years after the revolution, still maintains that.

And so it suffers the additional wage of hypocrisy.

The second thing that's very important to realize is

we are wedded to a bankrupt, harebrained policy in the Middle East vis-a-vis Iran.

And you really saw it in 2009 when the Obama administration, almost the first foreign policy crisis, was the so-called Green Revolution, where 1 million Iranians hit the streets.

And they thought their multicultural, multiracial, left-wing heartthrob was going to be an advocate for them.

And what happened?

Nothing.

Nothing.

Now, why didn't anything happen?

Nothing happened for the same reason nothing's happening right now.

You haven't had any strong support from this government in Washington.

And the reason why is that

whether it's John Kerry working for Obama or it's Anthony Blinken working for Biden, they are wedded to this idea of an Iran deal.

They want to,

it's not that they want to postpone nuclear proliferation.

They say they do, but that Iran deal will guarantee they will get a bomb within five to 10 years if they don't already have one or have one in the next year.

But they want to lower sanctions or eliminate them.

They want Iran to go back into the international community and get rich.

And out of that process, the Iranian Persian Shia, as they envision it, bloc will have an arc from Tehran to the Mediterranean, all the way to the West Bank.

So all of these terrorist groups, the Assad dynasty, Hamas, Hezbollah,

the remnant government in Lebanon, and of course, the Iranians will pose a counterweight to the conservative Saudi kingdom, the Gulf monarchies, and the Israel, who are not authentically revolutionary.

And in this left-wing insanity, they're going to think, you know what?

Hey, Israel, we want you

to

have a plebiscite or we want you to give back the Golan Heights or we're not wedded to you as a allied broker.

We're an adjudicator of Mideast tensions.

And

this new Shia bloc and all of its population and power, and maybe its nuclear capability will balance your nuclear capability and your now new alliance.

And we're telling the Saudis the same thing.

You know, well,

Mr.

Saudi Royal, you don't want to pump oil or you want to side with Israel?

Well, then look at Iran over there.

They may be able to send some missiles.

And this time when they hit you, they'll be nuclear.

That's what we're doing.

So we're not going to say a word about domestic insurrection.

And notice that none of of the leftists in the university are talking about this because in theory, they should be very, very adamant in support of these women.

They've got all of the contours of a progressive resistance movement.

They're women.

They're talking about free expression.

They're talking about constitutional government.

And they're against a homophobic, racist, tribalist, theocratic 15th century government.

And we don't hear anything.

Yeah.

Actually, the feminist movement, whatever it is or was, and I think it's probably in America, has changed significantly over the years still.

It always seemed to be mum about what's happening to women in Iran and under other despotic, particularly Muslim countries.

No, and the feminist movement, if you're making $450,000 as a CEO and you don't get a rapid promotion or some guy patch you in the wrong way, which he shouldn't do.

I want to make that clear.

That is something that's an existential issue, not a woman being beheaded

for supposed adultery or being stoned.

That's not.

Or even for being raped.

Then they ended up being executed because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I had a student come in not too long ago, well, within the last three years, and he had a little intersectionality chart.

He was trying to ask me questions about it.

I I don't know if he was doing it for a paper or just a joke, but he tried to

ask me which intersectional lever out pressures the other one.

And so, in this particular case, you have careerism,

domestic women's liberation, vis-a-vis,

a theocratic government, right-wing, homophobic.

But who wins in that?

I.e., who do you speak out there?

Are you more conservative?

and it

it's usually that and and my point of view that whatever an affluent leftist american uh

minority or

uh protected group oppressed group or self-described victimized group feels is most important for their own career advancement i'm being cynical but not necessarily untruthful wrong that's where they come down on right yeah well victor

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for a podcast we did titled War, Italians and Gender Dysphoria.

And this is a a short note, a short comment from Paula McDermott, who wrote, I very much enjoyed your discussion of Catullus's Addis poem.

Another ancient who well understood transgenderism is juvenile, although he is strong medicine for modern snowflakes.

Victor, I'll have to take Paula at her word.

I assume

you understand that.

Yeah, he wrote 10,

I think 16, is that right?

Satires.

It's not easy to read.

It's a

silver age, we call it.

And I think most of them are hexameters, even.

So it's not even to read juvenile.

It's like reading old English?

Is it juvenile?

Well, in Latin,

because it's poetry in general.

Yeah.

And

it's.

it's kind of got a strange vocabulary and it's its grammar and syntax are subordinated to metrical considerations and poetic vocabulary.

The 16 satires are not easy, but there is one, you know, about women that's very, I mean, it's kind of a rant against empowered women, but there's a lot of, I think the listener is talking about a lot of the contemporary echoes in that and his corpus of poetry.

They're really good.

I mean, we get a lot of really famous things out of juvenile.

Who will police the police?

Okay.

Qui

custodies, custodia, that that

That comes from juvenile.

And

bread and circuses, that comes from juvenile just off the top of my head.

And so it's, it's, you know, and that famous thing, it's difficult not to write satire.

That comes from, I think, the first satire.

And it's a very rich corpus.

I really appreciate that somebody would bring it out.

All right.

Well, that's Paula McDermott.

Thank you, Paula.

Hey, Victor, thanks again, as ever, for

another great show.

And thanks everyone for listening.

And we will be back soon.

Oh, can I say one thing before we leave?

I remember.

Of course, it's your show.

One thing just came in my mind.

It's either satire two or three

where

one male marries another male and juvenile sort of says, whatever drugs you take, I guess trans.

transitioning drugs you can, you're never going to be able to have a baby.

So

Rome, Rome, and its most affluent and leisure cycle was very similar to modern Western world.

Yeah.

Well, A for effort and D on execution, I guess.

So, okay.

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