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That's two words in Delaware, by the way. I'm Jack Fowler.

Oh, man. I can't believe he's he's our president.
I'm Jack Fowler. I'm the host, Victor Davis Hansen.

The namesake is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne, and Marsha Busky, Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.

Plenty of stuff to discuss today.

First thing, Victor, we're going to jump into is this discussion, this interview that Tucker Carlson had with Tony Bobolinski about his relations with the Biden-Corleone family and the lingering fact that the FBI

has still not dealt with Bobolinski about the treasure trove of information he has about just how corrupt this family is. It's not just about Hunt Biden, it's about the big guy and the 10%.

And we're going to get Victor's views on this right after these important messages.

We're back with the Victor Davis-Hanson show. Victor was quite a week for, I must say, for Tucker Carlson.
He had two nights of interviews with Kanye West.

And I know you've discussed the ramifications of that or everything related to Kanye West with the great Sammy Wink on another episode of this podcast. So our listeners should look out for that.

But prior to the West interviews,

Carlson sat down with Tony Bobolinski, which he did two years ago.

The story that no other major media outlet picked up on. And Bobolinski was a business associate

with Hunter Biden,

Jim Biden, the brother of the president. a couple of other folks.

He was scammed himself by the Bidens,

but

he verifies he's totally trustworthy a guy. Even the FBI has said this guy is, you know,

after an initial discussion with him two years ago, credible, a most credible guy and a patriot.

And yet, two years after the expose of all the information he had, again, not only about Hunter Biden, but about Joe Biden, there's yet to be any FBI follow-up with him.

And Victor, I'll just say one more thing of the many things in Tucker Carlson's interview with him, with Bobolinski, that I found disturbing was the fact that the Biden,

Biden, Inc.

had

a plan. Their goal was to make billions of dollars.
billions of dollars dealing with China and essentially helping fund China's road belt and trade or whatever, you know,

this port and

shipping stranglehold that China plans for the globe. And that was fine, I guess, with the Bidens, as long as they were going to cash in on it.
I just find it so traitorous.

Anyway, Victor, that's just my silly opinion. I'm going to be quiet.
I think you probably have a lot of analysis and wisdom to share. Well,

nobody has challenged his veracity, and he's begged the FBI to interview him again. And they really didn't want to interview him the first time.
So what he's alleging is a series of felonies.

For example, I think he said that

Jim Biden, the brother, as you pointed out, defrauded him and that guy, Walker, the other guy, Gilliar or something, I forgot his name, but they

defrauded them out of $5 million.

They rewrote the contract and created a dummy new company and diverted the money so they wouldn't know about it and get it.

And then, of course, it looks like Joe Biden lied when he said he knew nothing of

his son's businesses, but we knew that anyway from the laptop, Mr. 10%, and all that stuff.

But when he and the phone call that was recorded, tipping off Hunter about the likely exemption he was going to give.

So I guess what I'm saying is that it's one of these things that it's just an elephant in the room that this family of mediocrities,

when their older brother was anointed vice president, they felt that this was their first and final chance. I mean, they were small town grifters, but this was a chance to really make money.

So they went whole haw in Ukraine, in China, in Russia. And when you look at Joe Biden's homes, those aerial Google shots of his home, and you look at his salary, it's almost impossible to

to square the circle of how he got the capital to do that and the way they were living. And Hunter Biden, you know, paying $20,000, $30,000 for prostitutes for drugs.

Where did all that money come from? Which also then begs the question:

what were they doing?

Why would people who were very astute in cost-to-benefit analyses, like the Chinese or the Russians, why would they give them anything other than they gave them money for influence?

But why would they continue to give them money for influence unless they delivered?

In other words, unless Joe Biden went back and he tried to give exemptions and get people fired in Ukraine and

try to warp U.S. foreign policy.
And this opens another very interesting subject because I think it's relevant to this.

And that is this mythological narrative that we saw during the Russian collusion hoax, that the left, the Democratic Party, had been tough on Russia.

Remember James Clapper said that Trump was a Russian asset and Russia, Russia, Russia. But if you just be empirical,

just be empirical, and you look at what Biden was doing and getting money from the Russians, the Biden conglomerate,

look what the policy was. That administration did not sell offensive weapons to Ukraine.

And Jack, right now we read, and I just read it this morning, that the Ukrainians are plagued with odd sophisticated drones.

And those drones were re-engineered in 2011 when American sophisticated drones, I think they were Sentinel drones, crashed. Remember that? And they wanted to blow them up.

I think Dick Cheney said, bomb them.

And Obama, because he was invested in the Iran deal, didn't want, and remember, he had not said a word about the Green Revolution in 2009 because he had this crackpot idea of remaking the Middle East with a Persian-Shia underdog crescent from

Tehran into Lebanon, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas. And they were going to balance our allies, which he felt were our enemies.
But my point is that those drones are playing a very prominent role.

And then when you add in what Russian collusion did in the hot mic in Seoul, South Korea in March 2012, when they caught Obama basically with a quid pro quo, tell Vladimir blank, blank.

But what we forget about that conversation is that all the promises were kept. Obama said, give me space.
I have one more election, i.e. behave and don't go into any country.

And he didn't until Obama was re-elected. And then Obama did cancel Eastern European missile defense.

And I bring that up, Jack, because right now, if Poland and the Czech Republic and Germany were protected by an anti-ballistic missile system that would be in place, they would have some modicum of deterrence when Putin threatens nuclear war everywhere in Europe.

And so that was another baleful legacy of the Biden vice presidency and the Obama presidency. And so what I'm trying to get at is that there was appeasement.

And Joe Biden in 2015, it's a really remarkable speech. Everybody should go back and look at it.

He said that we tried to reach out to Russia and we were going to bring them in and we did everything and we're still working on it.

And it was incredible because That 2015 speech was just months after the cyber attacks where Obama said, cut it out. Remember, Vladimir? And he didn't.
And then Biden later, remember, Jack?

Biden later, when he came into office, said he went, he told Vladimir that if you're going to hack, don't hack these 16 targets. Right, right.

So there was something weird about that, that he was not able to be muscular and to deter Russia. And then when we put it finally in the entire picture,

it was who hired Russian sources.

It was Hillary Clinton through those paywalls, you know, Birkinsco, DNC, Houston GPS, but she hired Dashenko, and she had this Charles Dolan in Moscow, who, and they were being fed Russian sources, and they knew it.

So they were indirectly working with the Russians. And the FBI hired Dashenko, a Russian agent, a Russian citizen, excuse me, but they hired him as well as Hillary.

He was being paid by two pay masters. And then when you finally look at the record, gosh,

Donald Trump reversed reset.

This is what's so striking right now about the left has appropriated this idea that they were hard on Russia. They weren't.
They created the situation in which Putin went in. They did it long term

during the Obama

administration. And we know that because the first thing that Trump did when he came into office Remember that he flooded the world with cheap oil to Russia's chagrin.
He upped sanctions.

He killed those mercenaries in Syria, Russian mercenaries, first time any Russians have been killed by Americans. He got out of that asymmetrical missile deal.

He sold offensive weapons to Ukraine, Jalvlin missiles. I could go on, but he was very tough on Russia, even as they were being called an asset.
And O'Biden and

well, Biden, that's a good term, but Biden and Obama had not been.

And now they, and what they did do, though, is in their impotence and their appeasement, the more they understood that Biden-Obama were being manipulated and insulted and humiliated by Russia, the more their ambassador in Moscow and the more they themselves gave these very idealistic human rights condemnations of Russia.

So they were speaking loudly with a twig.

And suddenly this has all been transmogrified, that the left has always been, you know, when you read Max Boot or you read John Bolton, who's I I think, on the left now, and you read all these people, we're going to get top, I'm going to remove him from all this stuff.

But the long-term appeasement of Russia occurred between 2009 and 2016.

And then the short-term accelerant or the dessert, the cherry on top, was the Afghanistan debacle that convinced Putin that we wouldn't do anything.

and the anemic response that Biden had toward Russian cyber attacks on us, as well as the politicalization of the military. So, when Putin looked at the U.S.
military, he said, wow,

they're woke.

Their chairman of the Joint Chiefs is tipping off his Chinese counterpart against his own commander-in-chief. These people just, this is the finale.
I'll just go into Ukraine. They won't do anything.

Just like I did under

Obama in 2014, they didn't even say a word. So that's what he did.
And now that whole reality has been been disguised and warped and manipulated.

And suddenly we hear that Trump was a Russian stooge and they were tough on Russia.

And it's just a complete fabrication. Right.
It's always projection and 180. Victor, I know this has been discussed by others over the last couple of days.

Headline in

the New York Post and maybe some other papers was, you know, Hunter Biden

on the cusp of being prosecuted, not for any of the stuff we've just been talking about, but for tax evasion and lying on federal forms about his drug

history,

felonies and applying for gun permits, et cetera, et cetera.

Chump,

excuse me, chump change compared to everything else. And

I don't know what your thoughts are, Victor, of, you know, if he's prosecuted for that

an as a stand-in for a true investigation, thorough, deep, and broader prosecution, not only of him for these other acts of,

I believe, they're treason. Yeah,

I think you're right. Andy McCarthy, who's our former colleague and was very hard on Trump, wrote an article about this.
So did Miranda

Divine. So did a lot of people.
And their basic thesis was

they are now backed into into a corner that his felonies that he's admitted to, and there's even pictorial evidence of them when he's in bed using drugs with prostitutes.

Those are two crimes right there, illegal drug use and soliciting drugs and soliciting prostitution

and not reporting income and lying on a federal gun permit. All of those are so egregious that they have to do something.

So I think these articles make the point that they're going to have some virtue signaling performance art statement that will say, well, we have an independent investigator.

And then it's going to be a slap on the wrist, a little fine.

And then they're going to take victory laps about how Joe Biden, Justice Department, is an independent autonomous and Merrick Garland had nothing to do with this, just like he had nothing to do with anything else, supposedly.

So yeah, that's what's going to happen. They have to do something.

The only question is they can't do it before the midterms. So if they really, really, really were independent federal prosecutors, then they've had so much evidence.
I mean, they got a laptop.

It's just like a blank check. You just commit.

They would do two things if they were real prosecutors. They would indict him before the midterms.

And number two, they would look at Joe Biden and they would see those references to the big guy and Mr. 10%.

And then they would get a forensic financial sleuth and they would look at all of the income that came in. And then they would look at all the expenditures that Joe Biden has spent.

And they would see whether or not he paid federal income tax. And they would have a special prosecutor.

And I think you would find that Joe Biden, I don't want to smear him, but I think you would find that he did not report all the income of the 10%.

And if it was 40 or 50 million, you can see it was a large number

of checks that were written to him.

And then they should go to each one of these principals and they should offer them immunity, Walker, Bobolinski, maybe even Hunter, and say, We want to know exactly how much money was sent to Joe Biden, and then look at his federal tax return.

I do not think he declared money coming in from Verisma or these shell companies that were third-party intermediaries to hide the source of the original funding.

So, this guy is what I'm trying to be diplomatic, but this president is probably the most corrupt president we've had in a century. And I mean that.

He's a grifter, his income, his lifestyle, everything. And you can really see this sick relationship, as I've said before, Jack, between Hunter and Joe.

When you read those emails on that laptop, he has bitterness, he has anger at Joe Biden. And his anger is basically,

I'm the bag man for the family. I take the hit.
And every time they say to him, you know, tone it down, Hunter, you're too too high profile. Don't leave your crackpipe in a rental car.

Don't throw an irregularly or illegally registered gun in a dumpster. Don't start having sexual relations with your son's widow.
Just tone it down. Then he sort of says, oh, tone it down, huh? Mr.

Big, Mr. 10%.

And then he had that email, I think, to his sister. Or was it his first cousin when he said, I'm carrying this family.
I've been doing it for years and I'm tired of it.

And he called, I think, didn't he say Peter Petto or Petto for his daughter, for his father? That was the oh, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, and then and then on and on.

So, what I think's happening is Joe Biden, when he uses these superlatives, like, I've never met a smarter man than Hunter, he doesn't believe that,

he's a wonderful person, but he's trying to say things because he knows that Hunter is full of anger at him because he's such a

his

behavior has been so filthy and reprehensible, yet it was in service to enriching his dad that he feels that he's taking that he's the bad guy, the bad cop, and Joe Biden's the good cop and he doesn't like it.

And so Biden knows that and he thinks, you know what? This guy is such a cokehead and so unstable that at any given moment, he could get on TV and incriminate me.

So I'm just going to praise him to the skies. I think that's that's the key he's he's he looks like a kind of a picture dorian gray of all the this

evil of the family is kind of

is soaked into the face of it's written over his his chest his belly and his face and every time you see him with a cigarette in his mouth or he looks like he's some kind of playboy stud or something posing that way in the pictures, it's almost like, yeah, I'm decadent.

I'm sick. I'm a pervert.
What are you going to do about it? It's that kind of thing, and you can really see it with that art projects. You know, when he was painting with a straw,

he knew that if he painted with a straw in his mouth, people are going to make jokes that it was about his straw on his nose.

And he understood that, and he understood they were very sensitive about Hunter Biden. So, what did he do?

He went full bore right out into the New York art scene and got a bunch of shakedown artists to give him a gallery.

And then he got a lot of foreign clientele to buy his mediocre awful paintings for half a million bucks. And his really the subtext of that was to his dad and to Ron Klain and all the handlers.

I'm going to still do it. I'm still trying to leverage your name, dad.

And I still give you the 10%.

But if you don't like it, then I suggest that you come clean too. You're just as dirty with your tie and your suit and

old Joe Biden from Scranton. And, you know, I think he's got a lot of bitterness.
I think, you know, when he, when,

when the Biden daughter has that diary and they're just, they're just desperate. I mean, I've never seen anything like it where the FBI has been transmogrified into a family retrieval service.

I mean, a whole, if you think about it.

dispassionately, in retrospect, an entire election hinged on that laptop.

According to polls, if people had known it was genuine and people like James Clapper and Brennan hadn't lied and used their feed days to convince us it was Russian disinformation, that would have changed the election.

Or Facebook and Twitter blocking the New York Post.

You couldn't even read the article. Or the diary.
The diary was already floating around of the daughter who said that she felt uncomfortable that she'd showered with her father.

And so this family is, I don't know, it's a receptacle of

crime, perversion,

you name it, every pathology. It's in that Biden family.
And nobody's really talked about it because he has this little image.

And I guess the Democrats thought we have gone so hard to the left when they had that clownish cast of characters in the 2020 primary debates, Beto, Corey Booker, Julian Castro, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders,

you know, as I said, Spartacus, and there was nobody there.

And so they resurrected this old construct out of the 70s, good old Joe Biden, the Catholic working man, moderate Democrat, which didn't exist, and they put him in his basement.

And then the media lied and covered, and Mark Zuckerberg put in 419 million, and we were off to the races.

There is a divine power. I really believe that.
And

I think it's a Christian power. But if I didn't believe that it was a Christian power and I was an ancient Greek, I would say there are divine forces called Nemesis, and they always hunt.

The goddess Nemesis always hunts for Eubris. When they see Eubris, that is overweening arrogance that you can go beyond the limits of human behavior and decency, then they're going to strike you.

And they're striking this Biden family. And I don't think they're going to be in big trouble.
I think, first of all, he's going to take the entire Democratic Party down in four weeks. Right.

They're going to lose the Senate and the House. And then they're going to have a cannibalistic civil war about whose fault it was.

Well, Victor,

you know, we've made these Corleone

associations, and I wish it was that simple. Maybe just one or two more minutes here on

the Bidens. But I mean, the Corleons are gambling and

prostitution and

all of the mortal sins from a Catholic perspective, but let's say they're all domestic or local. And

what the Bidens were after. And also, look at Hillary Clinton selling our, essentially, selling our

significant uranium deposits so the Clinton Foundation could get some booty from

some oligarch over there.

But these folks,

the Clintons and the Bidens, have no problem

selling out America's true national security interests to America's true enemies in the case of China. Absolutely.
Absolutely.

And don't listen to you or me. Listen to the New York Times because when Hillary oversaw that Lunsome or what it was, that company that sold.

uh the majority of its american uranium holdings to russian oligarchs that were really operatives of the putin government they had i think they sent three million to the Clinton Foundation and they paid Bill Clinton $500,000 a speak in Moscow.

The New York Times, the New York Times said Clinton's cash flow into the Clinton Foundation coffers as uranium is sold to Russia. So they knew about it.
And

so everybody understood that

Hillary Clinton was sacrificing the national security interest of the United States for personal profit.

And everybody understood that Barack Obama and the hot mic and soul right in an re-election year was basically saying to the Russians, you hold off on invading and embarrassing me and showing that my appeasement reset policy failed.

And he called that giving me space in my last election.

last time I'm going to be up for election. And then in return for that, I will look seriously about missile defense.

And that project was already well underway when he canceled the Polish-Czech participation in it to our

disadvantage as far as national security vis-a-vis not just Iran, but as Putin knew, he knew that it could be used against him, that he wouldn't be able to bully so much. And he was irate about that.

Vladimir Putin's chief anger at the United States was that the Obama administration had inherited a

George Bush initiative to have a missile defense in Eastern Europe to protect all of Europe from a rogue Iranian missile.

But Putin understood that that could also be re-engineered to protect them from his nuclear threats.

And had we had that, right now, the Ukrainian debacle could be seen in a different light where the Europeans might have been sitting under some type of nuclear deterrent.

And again, that was done by Obama for his own selfish political needs. And I say this, Jack, because

when you calculate what Hillary Clinton did with our uranium holdings and how her family foundation and her husband were paid off, and then you put

in that context the later Russian collusion, how she used Russian sources, Russian sources to blacken Donald Trump's name.

And you know that the Russians did not want Donald Trump to be president because he was an unknown quantity, and she was a known quantity that had performed for them very well as Secretary of State.

When you put all of that together, and then you look at the phone call for which Donald Trump was impeached, and you think, my God, this country was once a wonderful country, and it's so asymmetrical.

He's impeached for

delaying offensive weapons, which he has approved to Ukraine, which Biden, Biden, and Obama never approved.

And he's impeached because in the process, he mentioned that he was worried that they had been too familiar with the crooked Biden family. And they had A, been too familiar with the Biden family.

And B, we know that Trump was right, that they were absolutely crooked. There was nothing wrong with saying that.

And he was impeached for it.

And then, when you look what Obama did on that hot mic, and you look what the Clintons did with uranium and with Russian collusion, and who was working closely with the Russians

at the expense of the United States national security, if there was any justice in the world, the first thing that they would do if they gained the House, I'm not saying it's wise politically, it's probably not wise politically.

I'm not saying that the people would support it. When the media got done with it, the people would be against it.

But if there was any justice, cosmic justice in the world, the first thing Kevin McCarthy should do is impeach Joe Biden. And they should impeach him, first of all, on the laptop information.

And the second thing they should do is that he systematically destroyed federal immigration law. He did not faithfully carry out his oath of office to execute the laws.
And he did that intentionally.

And that would be, that would send a message. And that gets back to our earlier discussions about Old Testament and New Testament Republicans trying to take power.

To what degree do they retaliate to create a teach the left a lesson versus do you really want to sink down to their level?

Everybody has that debate. Well,

you know, Victor, I know we didn't discuss this in advance of the show as we, you know, we talk about what we're going to, what we are going to talk about, but I kind of find a third possible impeachable item.

And that's, I'm just talking out of my hat here, but this

O'Biden granting executive clemency or pardon to people using on the marijuana stuff, I just find the arrogance of

a president thinking the law.

Yeah, he basically

modifies it. He made a law.

He just said all at once, federal immigration law I can't change because I don't have, I'm not in the Congress, so I'm just going to make it useless because if you ever convict anybody on it, they're not going to go to to jail.

And then, second of all, he didn't have the constitutional right to overturn a congressionally approved legislation on federal student loan. He just gave it away.

He just, with a stroke of the pin, said, I, as a dictator, say

following contractual obligations between student and lender no longer exist.

That's as if he goes into a person's home and says, you owe, you signed a contract with a Ford Motor Company to buy buy that pickup. You don't owe any money anymore.

That is a revolutionary Catalinian, right out of the late Moman Republic Revolutionary Act. And that is an impeachable, they're all impeachable offenses.

And this is what's so, I don't know how, I love this country so much, but when you look at this, this asymmetry that's happened with this bicosta elite, and then you juxtapose it to the FBI.

And just this week, Jack, we heard that Grassley had a letter with 600-plus FBI agents had been charged with sexual harassment,

assault, and they were all reassigned, and it was hushed up.

And then we hear about the Catholic activist that was kind of frog marched out of his home in front of his children for supposedly, I don't know,

the abortion clinic accident. Yeah, there was nothing there.

And they were just trying to show everybody that they could go after you, why they wouldn't go after people who were bombing or firebombing full life.

And then you add that to how they treated Peter Navarro and James O'Keefe. And then you look at James Baker, the FBI legal counsel that was finagling around with Steele.

And then he was sort of forced to resign. And he goes in and he's Twitter's chief counsel.
And he's kind of suppressing any talk about. collusion and everything.

And he's kind of the legal advisor now to Twitter after his disgraceful performance for the FBI. Then we throw in Kevin Kleinsmith, the felon who altered a document.

We look at the last four directors and it's very hard to see that if any of them have told the truth. Andrew McCain, four times the federal investigator's lying.

James Comey, 245 times pleading amnesia. Robert Mueller doesn't claim under oath he doesn't know what the steel dossier is.

And then we have Christopher Wray, the latest incarnation that was doing these performance art raids. Oh my gosh.

Yeah. So it's crooked and it needs to be broken up.
It's very, very dangerous. The FBI has become very dangerous.

I hate to say that, but all of those divisions, the narcotics, international tracks, all of them have to be broken up and they have to be outsourced to individual cabinets.

Put some in Homeland Security. Put some in the Department of Interior.
Put some.

But don't concentrate that power in Washington with the type of people they're hiring it's too dangerous what the fb idea and then when you add that to the weaponization of the doj under merit garland going after parents and laptops and diaries ordering the fbi and then you put that in connection with

the Pentagon and what Mark Milley has been doing and the woke indoctrination and 50% down on their recruitment and the contact with the PLA counterpart in China that Millie made.

And then you add in as dessert all of the retired officers who violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, calling Trump everything from a Nazi to Mussolini to an Auschwitz-like.

And you put all of that together and you think, my God,

there is a profile here of the permanent federal employee bureaucrat

who is not elected and not subject to audit or control. And they are totally out of control.

They violate the law with abandon and there is no repercussions and they work now as an arm of the left an unelected arm of the left right it's they're like a sovereign nation unto themselves they are the deep state deep state administrative state bureaucratic state call it what you wish they're the

They're the 5,000 at Versailles that were there and the Bourbons didn't know what to do with them.

They're the 10,000 at the El S. Garrot and the Spanish monarchs didn't know what to do with them.
They're the Kremlin apparatches. They're the apparatcheks in the Forbidden City.

They're just a permanent group of people who, over a lifetime, master how government works.

They have no ability to function outside of government, and they tend to be for big government because that's who they are.

And we're not even talking about Francis Collins and Anthony Fauci and the whole federal, because I'm just saying that, Jack, because after all of this acrimony,

Anthony Fauci and the CDC funded Peter Dasek.

Again, yes, $600,000 plus. So they're basically saying to the American people,

worried about an engineered virus, claim that our money helped fund the Wuhan lab? Guess what? Screw you. We're going to give him more money and see what you're going to do about it.

You're worried that he rigged a Lancet independent investigation where he got all of his cronies. They went over to China.
The Chinese lied to them. They nodded back and forth.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Nod, wink, and nod. And they came back and said, oh, there was a bat.
There was a pangolin. And then all of a sudden, oh, whole investigation is discredited.
Lancet has forced to renounce it.

And that guy gets more money. They always land on their feet, or if they fall down, they're not hurt because they fall on their wallets.
Yeah, and I think people

who are traditionalist and conservative listeners it's have to be acculturated to this i do because what are we talking about jack we we grew up supporting the fbi the cia

the doj

uh and

these people have become a left-wing operative for the democratic party and it's they're scary and they've got power and they're ruthless and we're not even talking about the new 87 000 agents for the IRS that my gosh.

My God.

And by the way, you count the number of tax returns that are filed

and then you count the number of new agents and you add that to the existing agents. I don't know.
I kind of did the calculus. Right.
And it's about one out of 15, I don't know what it was, 1500.

family household that are of a particular yeah and so they're not what i'm trying to say is they're not going after wealthy people, right?

They're going to go after small entrepreneurial businesses that report a gross income probably of 300,000 to a million and a half. They run a road paving company, they're electricians.

Yeah, they're not going to

anybody who takes a thousand dollars out of the bank. Oh, what'd you do that for? You know, I think they're going to go after also

limousine drivers, taxi drivers,

Uber drivers, waitresses. Waitresses, bartenders, no questions.
Yeah,

swap me, peddlers,

farmers market, anywhere cash is exchanged, they're going to, because they're desperate for money, but they're not going to go after the people that basically report all their income at a reduced capital gains rate.

Well, Victor, we're not desperate. for money, but we do have to make some time for our advertisers.
I think you would agree to that. So we're going to, you know, what next?

We're going to talk, um, pick up a little bit about Kanye West and BLM and Sharon Osborne. And let's get to that right after these important messages.

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back with now we're going to be talking about

sharon osbourne ozzie osborne's wife i'll be i'll be i'll be uh i try not to be too nasty so uh she had a a show on CBS, I believe, that was a competitor of sorts to the view. She got into some

racial

accusations a while back, and she was essentially backstabbed and canceled. I know she's been on Fox of late.
She has a documentary about what she went through.

And for all I know, she even has a show on Fox Nation. Not sure.
But

now she's in the news. And of course, Victor.
and and and Sammy had a podcast they recorded the other day. I can't wait to listen to it.
It's about the Kanye West

Black Lives Matter.

Excuse me, White Lives Matter. He was wearing White Lives Matter shirt at

Paris Fashion Show. But it brings us into Black Lives Matter.

There's been some increasing criticism of it, obviously.

Where's all this money gone? And Sharon Osborne is someone who's questioning where's all this money gone? Because she gave $900,000 to BLM a couple of years ago.

Now she wants it back, having seen that it's been splurged on houses for its founders. So, you know what? I'm glad she's bringing attention to it, but frankly, my heart doesn't bleed for her.

Why the hell did she give the money in the first place when it was clearly a lefty organization? Victor,

use this as a launching pad.

Why did you have any sympathy for Sharon Osborne?

Not really.

Why did, first of all, why she was under attack from the left

and she became a little bit pushed back, but why would she give $900,000 to an organization that anybody with a modicum of sense knew

was, I think the left used the word decentralized, that means that it was a mess.

And the founders created this movement based on a lie that when George Zimmerman was acquitted, you remember that Black Lives Matter said he was guilty of murder and that was a travesty.

And we knew one thing about that case is that George Zimmerman was attacked by Trayvon Martin, who was mad that he was following him because he thought Trayvon Martin was engaged in suspicious activity.

Trayvon Martin beat him up, slammed his head. He pulled out a gun and shot him in self-defense.
There was no argument that they were in an argument.

There was no argument that George Zimmerman was losing the argument, the fight, I should say.

There was no argument that in the desperation to exonerate Trayvon Martin, the President of the United States weighed in on the criminal case and said, he looks like the son I would never have.

Imagine Bill Clinton had he said after the O.J. murder that

this is a daughter.

She looks like the daughter I never, second daughter I never had. A Goldstein, yeah, right.
Goldstein looks like the son I never had. So he weighed in on it.

We know that cable TV photoshop picture of the wounds of George Zimmerman so they wouldn't appear.

We know that when Cable News played the 9-11, they edited it in such a way to make George Zimmerman look like he was hunting down suspects.

So the point was it was founded like the 1619 project on an on truth.

And then it gained credence on another on truth, the Ferguson shooting when Michael Brown we were told said, hands up, don't shoot. We know that was a lie by the bystanders.

No one, everybody knew that was a lie. He didn't say that.
And he was not shot in the back, and he was not shot running away. He was shot attacking an officer again.

And so the whole movement was based on something that was not true. And then the women who organized it, remember what their original intent was, was

that I think two of the three, and maybe the three, were either bisexual or gay black women, and they had felt that they were going to make a movement that was going to

clamor for,

harangue about, lobby about gay rights, women's rights. It wasn't going to be an economical black organization until it caught on.
And it didn't really catch on to the extent until the George Floyd.

And then it became a multi-million dollar receptacle when people looked at 120 days of riot.

$2 to $3 billion in damage, 30 to 40 people murdered, killed, 1,500 police officers injured, and businesses and suburban people said, you know what?

I'm going to give to BLM. I want to show my solidarity with George Floyd.
This was a time, remember, when Washington, D.C. was making places, you know, like Seattle, Washington, D.C.

were carving out urban zones, sanctuaries. during the riots when George Floyd started appearing in murals with a halo and angelic wings.

And a lot of corporations thought, you know, this is, we did it with Jesse Jackson.

We used to give Operation Push, the Rainbow Coalition, money, and we're going to give BLN money and we're going to let people know we're giving it. So that's what

Sharon Osborne. Now she wants it back because lo and behold, just as everybody assumed, the

people who organize it are not there any longer. And the structure of the organization has sort of had a euphemism, as I said, decentralized.

And Miss, I guess her name was Quellars and Garza and Tomeri, they're gone. And they're gone with the money.
And they bought money.

They bought nice, beautiful homes, three to four of them in one case. And they're not living in the neighborhood.
They're living among white people that they detest, supposedly.

So a lot of people feel that they were taken, but they shouldn't feel they were taken because it served their needs. I'm sure that Sharon Osborne told everybody that she gave $900,000 to to BLM.

And she took out what we could call indemnity insurance from the left. It didn't serve her very well.

And now she's mad because she got fired from her show and she wanted people to know that she was contrite and gave to BLM. And now she feels like I didn't get any benefit out of it.

And I don't think the corporations got any benefit out of it. And

so that's what it was all about.

And, you know, historically, when the Jacobins take over in France in 1793 and you professed that you were an atheist and you wanted to destroy Catholic monasteries, or when the Bolsheviks took over in 1917, you're a Russian aristocrat and say you really love Vladimir Lenin

or during any of the witchcraft and say, I found my own witch, here she is. That's what people do.
They make the necessary adjustments. And that's what people did with BLM.

And I don't have any sympathy for them that

the

recipients absconded with the money and made them look like idiots. Right.
So

that was what it was all about. And Black Lives Matter was inherently

based on a lie, as I said, another lie, I should say, that it was based on the allegation that Black

individuals who come in contact with the police are being shot while unarmed in a greater proportion than their demographics. And that was a why Washington Post did a systematic review of cases.

11 million people you were arrested, pretty much inordinately compared to their percentage of the population, blacks, probably about 55%.

But the number of people who were killed versus the number of people who were arrested rather than the number of people in the general population, which wouldn't be a very fair comparison, they're not inordinately shot while unarmed.

And so,

and they don't, and BLM knew that. And

it was systematic racist. And that started a lot, that set a lot of things in motion, Jack, that have really hurt people.

And one of them was the defund the police movement that was championed by BLM and boomerang back on the inner city and the African-American community, mostly elderly African-Americans or young African-Americans or children or babies that have been casualties or collateral damage or deliberately preyed upon

by career criminals that have been let out. And the police have made cost-to-benefit analyses where they will not go into the inner city because they feel it's a lose, lose, lose, lose situation.

I go in there, I could get shot. I go in there to save my life, I could shoot somebody.
If I shoot somebody, I'm all done because they're going to demonize me. And so I'm not going to go in there.

And that's added to the problem. And so I can't think of any one good thing that BLM has done.
And they don't really,

again, they started on the lie of Trayvon Martin and Ferguson. They furthered that lie.
They cashed in. They took the money.
They called anybody a racist who objected.

So All Lives Matter became a racist thing. White Lives Matter became a racist thing.

And it's all predicated, again, on the premise that because of the history of slavery in the South and Jim Crow in the South and racism throughout the United States, that even here we are

60 years after the civil rights movement, doesn't matter that there's going to be an asymmetry, that you cannot say things that are empirical because

you have a long history. And I don't think that's going to be valid anymore.

And I think a lot of groups that are so-called minorities, whether Latinos or Asians or poor whites, they don't really feel that they have to

not tell the truth. And

the truth is that three to four to five percent of the population are committing 55 percent of violent crime, and many of the victims are people who are not white, and nobody will talk about it.

And BLM was a contributor to that with their defunding the police advocates,

Victor. We don't give assignments here, but to me, the best roughly one hour of truth-telling

on race in America, Black Lives Matter, et cetera, is Eli and Shelby Steele's documentary from about

two years ago, three years ago, What Killed Michael Brown? It is so empirical, and it's not only about the Michael Brown case, which was exploited by BLM, but then Shelby looks at how, you know,

white elites have absolutely abused and destroyed the lives of blacks for power in his own life.

Look at this neighborhood, there used to be vibrant neighborhood here and torn down to build a project, etc. It's so illuminating.
I really recommend folks find it on Amazon.

I think people should watch that. And I think they should go back and read things that Shelby Steele and Tom Soule have written.
Two colleagues at the Hoover Institution.

There is a theme to their lifetime contributions to the race question.

And it runs like this: that

a group of white liberals in the 60s, some well-meaning, others probably racist themselves and wanted to pay penance by sounding helpful or liberal or progressive and advocating certain federal handouts that they would never themselves approve for their own children.

In other words, when they raised their own children, they said, you're going to be on time. in school.

If you disrupt the class, you're going to be in trouble with me and you're going to do this and follow this rule.

And then they in their guilt institutionalize a separate set of exemptions for African Americans even though knowingly they knew that that was no guide to create a successful individual in a competitive society like ourselves and then they went further and said you know we're going to design a perfect high-rise with all the main modern architectural principles and we're going to we'll put them sky high and we'll put them in this area and it's basically well we're going to make it really nice and we're going to give you free stuff, but you're going to stay over there.

And when the black leadership saw that and thought that they could be enriched by promoting a separatist but nihilist point of view, the white liberal community said, that's right.

You know, Leonard Bernstein.

Come over to my house, the Black Panthers and my home, my flat or my apartment, and we will romanticize you. But we want you to be militant and we want you to demand more stuff.

And we want you to get the great society, and we want to give cradle-to-grave stuff. Now,

we wouldn't think that would be helpful for our kids in prep school. They're on their way to Harvard, but we will inculcate in you and force you

to

adopt modes of behavior that will be destructive to your family. And

that was Shelby's

themes about White Gill. And Tom then sort of grounded it

in a different frame in economics and tried to show that prior to the civil rights movement, when you looked at the critical barometers of success, marriage rates, divorce rates, illegitimacy,

two-parent households, that the African-American community, despite years of oppression and discrimination, were pretty much comparable with the white community.

And there was an entrepreneurial self-help Booker T. Washington spirit among the Black community.
And then the federal government came in and it destroyed that ethos by the great society.

And that great society, you know, subsidized women not to get married to have more for each illegitimate child. They did things that legitimize it.

And then when we fast forward 50 years since, and you get the woke movement, and it's just the crystallization or the ultimate ramification or the ultimate reification, I should say, of these toxic ideas.

So we're now saying that being on time is a white idea, that studying at night is a white idea, that following the rules is a white idea, and jumping the turnstile in the Washington subway is permissible.

because if you enforce people giving a ticket, it would be inordinately black. So the woke movement says any type of perceived inequality cannot be for any other reason except culpable white racism.

And a select group of minority superstars and moral superiors are going to be invested with the power to say this

in cultural Marxist terms, binaries, there's no middle ground. This is an oppressor.
This is an oppressed. This institution, this person is a victimizer, this guy is a victim.

And you end up, what do you end up with? What's the ultimate result, the TELOS, as Aristotle would say, of the BLN movement? You know what it is?

It's Oprah Winfrey from her Montecito home to Megan Markle at her Montecito home, both lamenting that despite the fact that they're among the most influential, powerful, and wealthy people in the world, that they're victims.

And Barack Obama, whether it's from his new Hawaii seashore mansion or his Calarama Seashore Mansion or his his Martha Vineyards.

Every once in a while, Michelle Obama will venture out and then tell the United States that it's systemically racist. That's what the ultimate ramification of absurdity.

And everybody's supposed to say to themselves, I will suspend disbelief because

of the history of racism and systemic

slavery and all of this stuff. I'm just going to suspend that this is absurd.

So Colin Kaepernick is not a grifter who's over the hill, who made $50 million calling everybody racist, or LeBron James with his $2 billion

net worth and his Chinese Fed

contracts and his Bel Air or whatever he lives in at whatever Tony district he lives with the security. He is a victim too.

And so, that doesn't work. And I think what's happening now is that a lot of African Americans, like the Hispanic community, is saying to themselves,

I am proud of my collective, but I'm an individual. And I found out something about liberals and white liberals.
These people, these bi-coastal elites, they're not very nice people.

They try to

tell me what to think and what to do. They're condescending.
They don't put their kids in the schools with me. They don't like to have me for dinner.
They don't hang out with me.

They don't live among me. And it's the same true of our minority elites.
They're just the same. And I'm just going to be a free-thinking individual.

I'm going to say, which candidate gives me cheaper gas, which gives me a better shot in upward mobility, which gives me less inflation, which gives me more security when I'm walking down the streets of Baltimore, which candidate is more likely to allow me to fill up with gas.

And that's what I'm going to vote in. I'm a person.
I'm an individual.

I'm not not a part of a collective. I'm not a cog on a big liberal wheel that has to bow and scrape to some phony.

I'm not going to listen to what Nancy Pelosi says when she says, oh, those migrants, they should come down here where they can pick crops.

Or when Joe Biden says, oh, you people are beautiful like a taco. Or when Joe Biden says to a senior assistant, I have my boy down here.

And so they start to see that behind the curtain, this left-wing progressive elite really doesn't feel comfortable with people other than themselves.

So when Joe Biden talks about his leg hair getting bronze and African-American kids stroking his legs and so fascinated with his white skin and white golden hair, you can see where he's coming from in his braggadaccio that he took on corn pop with a specially cut.

you know, a piece of chain.

You ain't black or hey, junkie. So they understand that.

And I think you're going to see the first real revolutionary ramifications of new generations of minorities are going to say you know what not this pig i'm not going to do it anymore i'm going to vote my own interests and you may see the republican candidate pick up 40 to 50 percent of the asian and and

latino vote maybe 20 percent of the african-american vote which is going to be very telling and critical given that Joe Biden and the Progressive Party have absolutely alienated the white working class, the chumps, what they call the chumps, the dregs, the losers, the crazies, the deplorables, the irredeemables, and the clingers, the stuff that Peter.

The semi-fascists. Yeah.
What's semi-fascists of Joe Biden or what Peter Strzok and Lisa Page said smelled up Walmart. Yeah.
Well, let's, Victor, we got a little time left.

So this is a segue into the forthcoming elections, which is around 30 days out from when we're recording.

So let's get you to put on your prognosticator hat and we'll do that right after these important messages.

We're back with the Victor Davis Hansen show.

So I always felt, Victor, you were,

well, back in 2016, I thought back when you were writing regularly for National Review, and I was, I think I was the publisher then, I may not, you just knocked it out of the park with your political analysis regularly, more so than anyone else, more so than the paid political journalists and pundits.

Here you are, the classicist, the military historian, and you really, if you look back over that year of your analysis and writing,

I do think you were the premier analyst of

what was happening and what was coming. So I've always respected your political take immensely, and I think many of our listeners do too.

Now, I just, as we're recording, the Daily Mail publishes a piece.

Republicans could pick up Senate seats in Arizona and Nevada. Projections show

GOP with 52-48 majority in the upper chamber after the 2022 midterms. And this is

Daily Mail reporting on a new analysis from our friends at Real Clear.

uh politics so victor 5248 as i look at this map it's um assuming the Republicans are going to take Nevada and Arizona and keep Pennsylvania,

not take

Georgia. And

Herschel Walker has been

under the spotlight the last week. Anyway, 5248 is what's being projected there.
Victor, as we head into Election Day and many people in many states are already voting,

your thoughts about is there a wave, the the size of the wave, will Republicans take the Senate? Yeah, I think they will. I think

it'll be 53 to 54 seats. I think they'll pick up 40 to 50 in the House for a variety of reasons, Jack.

And we have about three or four parameters that guide us to that conclusion. One is the President of the United States is polling in the low 40s.
That's a bad sign traditionally.

Number two, even if he wasn't, the first term president usually loses

30 to 40 seats in the House during the first midterms. That's against him.

Number three, every one of the issues that you and I have talked about, or it was Sami, the border, inflation, Afghanistan, crime, gasoline, he's down 30% approval on those particular issues.

And number

four,

When Joe Biden decided to go, I guess you'd say, full demagogue, demagogue, full

hate speech, calling people all of these names and screaming and yelling, and you combine that with his physical and cognitive challenges, people got angry and they're getting angry.

And so there was never, let's be clear about that, there was never a blue renaissance that all of a sudden the red wave had dissipated, that the Republicans had blown it, that Roe versus Wade had revolutionized them.

That was all

hype. That was all a construct.
We heard it in 1994. There was no contract of America.
It was a joke. We heard it in 2010.
The Tea Party littered the Capitol.

They called people racist, all those lies, and there were big blowouts. So that's what's going to happen.
I can't claim any presence.

In 2016, after they access Hollywood, I said that it wouldn't matter. It wasn't because...

I was press in or nostril domest. I just looked at what all of our listeners knew and they said, you know what?

We don't like what Trump said 10 years ago, but we're not going to demand that he drop out of the race because the people who are demanding that were perfectly all right with Bill Clinton as he performed sex acts in the Oval Office bathroom while he was president.

They didn't say a word about JFK's serial philandering with staffers. They didn't care about any of these issues.
It's only when they use it against us. And so whether you say that

you were suspicious about the Covington kids, are you suspicious about Josie Smollett, are you suspicious about the Duke La Crosse incidents or the latest volleyball, all of our listeners know this, that you have to because you have common sense and these don't compute.

And as I often think to myself, when I

hear what David Brooks says after the 2016, I have to listen more.

He didn't really believe that. It was just trying to explain why he was so so wrong.

And Bill Crystal says this or that, or Peggy Noonan says we have to be more compassionate for the people who feel left out. I just think the opposite.

Whatever they think is going to happen or whatever prediction they make, I usually, and that goes back a long time. I just believe the opposite.
If you do that, you're pretty much going to be right.

So when they said Trump didn't have a chance, I knew he did.

And when they say, you know, the midterms are not going to be that big or it's problematic or it's complex, then I know it's going to be big. It's going to be big, the margin.

And I'll just finish very quickly by saying

I get redistricted all the time, and I go in and out of a long 30-year Congress career of Jim Costa's. And he's always up for re-election.
They always have various different types of candidates.

Once in a while, he loses the popular vote on Election Day.

He always wins the SCIU or the absentee or the early voting, whatever it is comes his way.

And so he's now running against a candidate. Nobody really knows who he is.
He's a very good candidate.

I don't want to get into the whole, I know Jim Costa, I like Jim Costa, but the Tripaglar poll that was commissioned just shows them dead even, Jack. And I think we're about 12%

up Democratic district.

And more importantly, when you look at the mechanics of the poll that came out, women, Hispanics, and Democrats were inordinately polled, like 65 to 70%, because those are the likely voters.

So what I'm saying is that a Democratic constituency with a huge margin in this district and a pollster who understands that and weighs heavily women, minorities, Democrats, comes up with a result that is dead even.

in this district. That suggests, I'm not saying that Jim Cost is going to lose because this has happened before.
And on election day, he loses the popular vote, and a month later, he wins it.

But what I'm getting at is, in theory, almost every district is up for grabs this year. And a lot of the Senate races are up for grabs.
And the traditional left-wing progressive pollsters know that.

And a lot of these polls, not all of them, but a lot of these polls either deliberately do not sample a likely registered voter or they're not telling us that there is a margin, as Trafaglar people have reminded us, where people will not tell the truth because they figure that if somebody calls them and says, hi, I'm polling for Emerson and I just want you to answer a couple of questions.

They're afraid that that data and that phone number will go on some computer bank as a deplorable. So they don't answer or they hang up.
And so it's very hard to find people who will poll.

And so you add all that together and these races are a lot closer than we think.

And in the next four months, does anybody really believe that we're going to get a third quarter of GDP, that the economy is red hot, growing at 2%,

or that food prices crashed? And when Joe Biden says, hey, thanks to me, gas has gone down 20 cents a gallon. Well, now it's up 25.

Think about that. So

are we to say, okay, you made a president. You said the president has absolute control over the gas prices, not the market, not Ukraine.

So you are responsible, Joe, right before the midterms for spikes.

It's all-time high here in California. So it's going up and it's going to keep going up.
I don't see anything, Jack.

In other words, in the next four weeks that are going to change that verdict, it's only going to get worse.

And the question will be whether the Republicans are going to be Old Testament and pay back in kind what the Democrats did, impeach Joe Biden, as we said,

or are there going to be New Testament and say, I'm not going to stoop to their level. Let's get on with the agenda.

I will say one thing that I think all the voters have to

go out and vote.

Nobody's saying it because it would discourage turnout, but don't be discouraged. And that is

they will take the House

and they will take the Senate, but they can't block Joe Biden's executive orders and they cannot pass legislation.

So the House can pass legislation and they can send it to the Senate and the Senate can pass it and Joe Biden guarantee will veto every single law that Congress passes and they don't have 60 votes and there's not enough smart pragmatic Democrats of that 46 to 48 or whatever they are to say, you know what, I'm going to join the Republicans and override that veto.

He's only going to need about four or five of us because i'll get wiped out next time i run in 2024 they're not going to do that and so joe biden will rule by executive order and stop all positive legislation we saw that with barack obama after 2010 right and especially that he's compromised physically and cognitively he doesn't care about anybody else so that's we're going to stop the bleeding but we're not going to get a transfusion and restore the patient is what I'm trying to say.

I agree. I agree.
Still, still worth jamming

legislation down.

Everybody vote because this guy can do a lot of damage, a lot more damage. A lot more, right?

If I said to everybody in this audience, I think I kind of said it, but if everybody in the audience had imagined in January of 2021, if somebody had said, this guy.

and the Obama advisors and Elizabeth Warren, who's advising them, and Bernie Sanders and a squad, they're going to double your gas prices and make you vulnerable to foreign leaders.

And they're going to beg Venezuela and Iran for oil. And they're going to raise your prices by 9%.

And they're going to destroy your 401k.

And they're going to make it impossible to walk in a major city as crime is going to spike to a 40-year high.

And they're going to turn over billions of dollars to the Taliban and military hardware and embassies and air bases and Scedattle.

And Vladimir Putin, who's going to watch this, is going to invade Ukraine. They would have said, oh, Victor, you're a nut.
That's horrible. Or who are these right-wing nuts? But that's what happened.

And I think,

and that just remember that he can do that again and again and again. And we haven't seen them.

We haven't seen the end of it. We're just looking at the beginning.
Yeah, I think people know what these problems we have in the world have. This is self-inflicted.

And the guy with his finger on the trigger has been Joe Biden, without question.

So, hey, Victor, that's about all the time we have except for the usual um uh heading for the exits business we we attend to which is to thank you and we're genuine in our thanks to our listeners for listening and the numbers grow and grow thanks for to newcomers thanks to those who are uh

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It's a very high rating here. We 4.9, etc., etc.
It's almost five

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Some people don't like the host.

They shave a point off. All right, say love.

Anyway, thank those who

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Thank you for those who take the time to do that.

Here's one from Kennan Oakhurst, who's responding to a couple of recent podcasts, including one with Sammy.

Victor and Sammy talked about, well, you and I, Victor, had done a podcast, and one of the questions had come up about your love for music and some other movie stuff. And people love that.

And then you and Sammy did a fuller one on movies and

music.

So Ken in Oakhurst wrote this. It's titled Movies and Actors.
Wow. I would have sworn you were standing at my movie cabinet calling off the titles, the wild bunch.

And Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, Director Cutz, are two of my favorites. Don't forget Robert Ryan as Deke Thornton.
We are men, and I wish to God I was with them.

Which, by the way, is a theme that you've taken on and written a piece. Actually, I believe it's the beginning of a series of ultra pieces for victorhanson.com on great men.

Anyway, he concludes: hello from Oakhurst. Tell us more about your dogs, Ken, and in Oakhurst.
And Victor, let's

remind Ken and others that you've written

for your website about your pets, including you did a nice series. I think it was about three or four part series earlier this year about the dogs you've owned.

So, Ken, check that out. Thanks, Ken, for your comments.
Victor, thanks for your wisdom, as usual. This is a

great episode, I think. Thanks all for listening.
We will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show. Thank you, everybody, for listening.