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So, Victor, lots been happening this week.

And let's start by talking about your favorite person in Congress, Adam Schiff.

He's been caught with his pants down.

Find whatever analogy you want.

Here's the man who huckstered this concocted Russian conspiracy.

He was called out on the view earlier this week, but seems to show what he's done is a lot of spinning, but no admission of any...

any guilt here.

Victor, would you talk about Adam Schiff separately?

Let's talk about what John Durham is up to.

And maybe if you can please me while we talk about Schiff, I'd love to hear some sense of a vindication of what Devin Nunes has been telling America for the last few years.

Well, Adam Schiff has this kind of Kevin Spacey type demeanor where he talks very slowly and very precisely.

And it's a pseudo

exactness.

And you think this person is trying to be very careful, but he's actually completely reckless and he's pathological you fill in the blanks and what i mean by that is that while he was going on msnbc and cnn assuring the country for 20 months that there were bombshells and that he wink wink nod nod had access to classified information that would show that donald trump was colluding he was not producing that and he was bringing in witnesses as was devinunes clapper brennan commy And in their confidential testimonies, as we know from leaks,

they were saying, I didn't, I don't have anything.

And so

he knew that.

And now he's caught because Durham, he never thought, he thought Joe Biden would just stop the Durham investigation.

And I don't think he's going to stop the investigation for a lot of reasons.

One of them is that his poll numbers are so bad and there's such a backlash growing and his policies have been so disastrous that the last thing that Joe Biden needs is a Saturday night massacre in the DOJ.

And the second thing is, remember, Jack, what this course of prosecutions is following.

They went after Klein Smith and then Sussman and now Dechinko and he's at a fork in the road, Durham.

And does he go after Clapper and Brennan that have probably said things that were untrue under oath?

And we know they have under oath to the Senate in the case of

and the nsa spy program in the case of brennan surveilling the senate safer's computers and collateral damage along the afghan border that he denied actually that's a polite word for killing people and then there's comey and there's and if he were to do that i think he feels right now i'm just speculating i have no inside knowledge that maybe biden would say i'm going to protect the integrity of the fbi this is out of raid this is crazy but go after hilly and biden remember in 2016 kind of wanted to run, and she crowded ahead of the line, pushed him out, and there was no love loss there at all.

And so I think what he's doing, he's going at the bottom of the food chain.

He's just working his way up with the first two or three people.

And then he's going to say to them, you've lied under oath.

It's pretty clear.

Here's what you said.

Here's what you've said this under oath.

This is what happened.

Can you reconcile that?

Or would you like to tell us about the next person?

And so, what do I mean by the food chain?

I mean that Hillary Clinton inherited an ossified little account from a bunch of never-Trumpers.

And then she took this information and she wanted to smear and destroy Donald Trump.

And she thought that she could get away with it because she had the DOJ and she was at the State Department.

So, what did she do?

It's very important to remember what she did.

She took the DNC and she said,

I want to get dirt on Trump.

And so they went to the Perkins Cole left-wing law firm, and Mark Elias, I guess, was the go-between,

and Jake Sullivan, the current national security advisor.

And then they said, we're going to go get Glenn Simpson, Wall Street Journal former reporter, had this fusion GPS.

And then he's going to go get Christopher Steele.

And Christopher Steele is this expert.

Well,

about Russia, he's a British M60, M9, M4, all this crap that we were told.

He hadn't been to Russia at best in 2009.

He admitted that.

And then there were other stories he wasn't even allowed in since the 1990s.

So he had no first-hand knowledge.

But he relied on this Clintonite that was a Russian sort of like a, I don't know, Bobolinsky type of person that works with the Russians for his own profit, Dolan.

He got some dirt and rumors and then he went back and forth and tried to put a patina of Russianism on it with Dashinko, who was at the Brookings.

And I guess he had been, Fiona Hill had been involved in setting up meetings.

This is the self-righteous woman at the impeachment hearings that has a new book out, we remember.

And anyway, to make the long and the short of it, Hillary Clinton, DNC, Perkins Co., Fusing GPS, Christopher Steele, Christopher Steele's fake sources, and that's where we are now with the fake sources.

The next step would, it seemed to me, would be Glenn Simpson, who's testified and has talked to federal prosecutors.

And I think they won't go after Steele because of foreign national.

And then the next one after that, would they bring in Mark Elias?

And then the next one after that will get interesting.

Is it John Podesta?

Is it Jake Sullivan?

And then we have the periphery, Jack.

And these are the people in the Clintonite world that were given peaks of this fake dossier.

And their task was to give it another patina veneer of legitimacy and spread it.

So it seems like Bruce Orr, whose wife Nellie was working on this thing, had contacts within the DOJ and was working with the FBI.

John Brennan was given it, and so he was trying to get it into the daily intelligence menu that Barack Obama knows about.

And then there was Victoria Newland that had in the State Department.

Okay.

While this was all going on, then

they were also saying, this is a done, slam dunk.

We're going to destroy Trump.

And it was leaked in BuzzFeed and Rolling Stone, we remember, and Yahoo News before the election.

So

it did damage to Trump.

And then immediately, right during the transition, it morphed into,

well, now that we have this Steele dossier and now we have this proof, we're going to go after Michael Flynn and we're going to get government authority to do that.

And we're going to go after his subordinates and we're going to destroy the Trump transition.

And they did their best.

And now all of a sudden, what's happened?

Christopher Steele in a British court said he couldn't really reveal his notes.

They're gone.

And Ashinko said, I didn't do it.

It was Dolan or somebody.

And they said, well, it was him.

Nobody's coming forward.

Christopher Steele did that softball interview with George Stephanopoulos.

And he kind of said, well, like Steele kind of sort of stands behind some kind of some of it.

But, you know, Stephanopoulos is a liberal operator.

He didn't ask him any substantial questions.

So here we are.

Now all of a sudden the left has a new tack.

If you look at what the New York Times, Washington Post, NPR, the usual suspects are saying, oh, the Steele dossier had nothing to do with Robert Mueller's investigation.

There was independent evidence.

It had nothing to do with any of these inquests about Trump.

It did.

The two pillars of the whole Russian collusion hoax.

were the steele dossier and the ability of Glenn Simpson to market it as if it was a serious thing other than just a piece of junk.

And then we go to to the House Intelligence Committee and Devin Nunes picked up on this.

He's in the House Intelligence Committee.

That's the job to see what's going on.

And when he found this out, he reported to Donald Trump and basically said there are people in your administration, in the State Department, in the DOJ that are communicating with elements of Hillary Clinton's team to disrupt your transition and your presidency.

And that set off fireworks.

And a lot of people you and I know wanted him to be fired and resigned, and they turned on Debanuna's and he came.

He was a very popular bipartisan

legislator whose trademark had been warning people about Russia because he was very, very upset about the reset button.

He had said again and again and again, Crimea,

eastern Ukraine, we won't

sell offensive weapons to the Ukrainians.

This is crazy under the Obama administration.

This is even crazier that this hot mic 2011 conversation that Obama had in Seoul Korea, where he said, tell Vladimir that basically I'll go easy if he'll go easy during my campaign.

And so, you know, this missile, this old ossified missile tree is asymmetrical.

We got to pump more oil.

We got to beef up the defense.

And that was what Trump did.

And somehow,

these

revolutionaries on the left were able to take that truth and turn it into,

we were tough on Putin, and then Trump came in and appeased him.

Ex post facto, that shows that the whole time he was working, as James Clapper said, quote unquote, as a Russian asset.

And then you look at the record, you know, Walter Russell Mead wrote a very good article about this, but beefed up NATO, beefed up the defense budget, got out of that bad treaty on missiles with the Russians, killed over 200 Russian mercenaries that were in Syria without a blink, and then took the old aid package to Ukraine and

said, you know what?

These are offensive weapons.

Go to it.

And out of that, he was impeached for holding up arms supplies to Ukraine based on Mr.

Vinman's quote-unquote non-whistleblower, quote-unquote testimony.

So the whole thing is disgusting, but...

The locus classiscus of this fraud was the steel dossier.

And this is very funny because remember what it shows you, Jack, there's something on the left called projection, and that is they are so guilty about their lack of morals and standards in the way that they conduct policy.

And they're so wealthy and affluent, these bi-coastal elites, that they feel terrible.

And so they always project

what they do.

onto other people.

So

if Hillary won't accept the 2016 elections, they have commercials about the electors should be flipped and not follow their constitutional mandates.

Val Gore in 2000 said that he was selected, not elected, ran and raided for four years about W.

If John Kerry in 2004 says Ohio, you know, this was fake.

And if Jill Stein in 2016 on her kind of as a Hilley surrogate sues about that, that's all K.

It's Stacey Abams.

That's okay.

But that becomes then a way of saying that Donald Trump is undermining the election or integrity by questioning it in 2020.

And that's what they do.

So this whole thing then was Russian collusion, Russian collusion, Russian collusion, Russian collusion, because we were appeasing Russia and we empowered Putin.

And therefore, we're going to fob it off on Donald Trump.

That's what they do.

Yeah, same Russia that got, thanks to Hillary, got a nice contract on uranium.

Richard, a couple of you know, a little follow-up.

One, just a kind of a smart ass note.

Yesterday, I was eating lunch and turned on the TV.

And of course, this Rittenhouse trial was on.

And earlier in the day, obviously the kid on the stand started crying, and it became a big uproar on social media that he was full of it.

And I just can't help but remember that.

Didn't Adam Schiff notoriously cry for America to make a make his political point?

Crying's okay for some and not others.

They all cry all the time.

And this kid was 17 and of course he was on the stand from what we know from clips.

And what did the prosecution do?

They improperly brought in Fifth Amendment testimonies and strategies and that's against the law and the judge dressed them down.

And then in addition to that, we learned that He was being chased.

One man tried to hit him over the head with a skateboard.

The other, we have videos of it now that were finally released,

pointing a gun at him.

One of the people involved was a sex offender.

And anybody who watches the videos or with the belated release of the FBI helicopter shots can see that this guy, maybe it was unwise for a 17-year-old to bring a semi-automatic weapon.

But from what we can tell, he wasn't antagonizing anybody.

He was trying to stop fires and clean up graffiti.

And they went after him.

And they ran him down and they thought he's a little punk with a gun and the people who ran him down did not have a very good background

and he turned and one of them pointed a gun on him one of them tried to beat his brains out one of them tried and he shot in any other circumstance he would be acquitted there's no way in the world that anybody would convict that person.

And so if and if he was any other color than white male, let's be frank in the circumstances, circumstances, if he had been a person of color and there were two or three white fanatics running after him, the white fanatics would be on trial right now.

And that's just the way it is.

I'm sorry, audience, but that's the way it is.

And so it's a whole farce.

And I think right now the prosecution is so inept.

Maybe they're just...

I don't know, maybe they've blown it.

And I think what we're getting at is that they felt, given the left-wing culture in these big cities around America, that they had to bring this indictment as a cause celeb.

And then they knew they had no case.

And they're just so outrageously inept.

Maybe they're just trying to say, we screwed up.

And so then the judge will have a mistrial or something, but not a mistrial that stops all of the charges from being reintroduced.

They can just say, you know,

they're inept.

And then they can say, well,

we'll do it again.

They want to find some way to hold it over his head.

And I've never seen or heard a prosecution team so inept.

And I'm trying to figure out what's the strategy to get a mistrial.

So they get out of it and they say, we didn't want this case.

It was a lose-lose case for us.

But we went through the motions.

So we'll just kind of screw it up and they'll throw it out.

Or we're starting to lose it.

We thought we had this guy.

But we're starting to lose it.

So we're just going to be so bad, he'll just declare a mistrial and we'll start over.

Well, Victor, I did want to just get back on on the shift Durham-Russia scandal here.

The story, in one sense, is being posed that the FBI was duped.

And I don't personally buy that.

And I'd like to hear your quick thoughts on this.

I mean, I do think people wanted to be duped, or maybe like, you know, my son was arrested.

And of course, he's innocent, even though he's standing there holding the bag of cash that he took out of the store.

I mean, there are obviously people who disregard facts and stand by others for personal reasons, but for the FBI to be duped by what is an egregious document means either it's an incredibly inept agency or complicit to some degree as this rolled out.

And if it is complicit, you know,

who deserves to come into Durham's

remember James Comey was bragging about how he sent attorneys into what he felt would be to cross up an inexperienced Trump administration and get things on the record from Michael Flynn before he could get a lawyer.

And he kind of,

nobody would ever have allowed us to in.

They would have had legal counsel, but these guys didn't know what they were doing.

So I took the opportunity.

So he was known.

And then he knew that

struck notes basically from the interview with Flynn showed that there was no effort to lie or conceal anything.

We've had the FBI returning, remember him, James Baker,

I think he was in touch 2016, right before the election with David Korn.

And David Korn was the one in Mother Jones who

leaked it.

And then we had John Brennan, who was talking to Harry Reid and everybody and basically saying, my hands are tied because I'll get in trouble.

I'm CIA, but the FBI has got to get on this.

And then the FBI was paying Christopher Steele.

He was an informant.

And then he got a little egocentric and started blabbing, and they got embarrassed.

And

so every element of the FBI, and we know that when Kevin Kleinsmith altered a federal document, and I mean,

that would have put anybody in prison for four or five years.

If you're going to go riot in the Capitol, like, okay, so they think there's a few people who were actually guilty of rioting and they did damage to property or they threatened people.

We don't know, but they're going to be looking at four or five years.

But Kevin Kleinsmith, he put the country through hell, he did, by faking that affidavit, that FISA warrant.

And so did Comey, who signed off it, and so did McCabe.

And McCabe lied.

McCabe lied.

Right.

He admitted he lied.

And he was not prosecuted.

He still has a pension.

Yeah.

So all of these people, and McCabe was a liar.

He had conflicts of interest with his wife's campaign in Virginia and the Clinton funding of it when they were supposedly investigating the email.

And then we look at James Comey.

Why in the hell, when it was exposed that Hillary Clinton had her emails hacked and they were entering the public domain, even though Assange said, wait a minute, these did not come from Russia.

And we still don't know.

did come from Russia and you wanted to make that argument.

Why didn't Hillary Clinton say, here's the hard drives, FBI?

You go look at it, and you will find they came from Russia.

Instead, the FBI said, hmm, Hillary doesn't want us to examine these computers that were hacked.

She's got her own in-house computer company.

Was it CrowdStrike?

Was that the name of it?

Oh, we'll just let them do it.

And then they kind of said, hmm, sort of, maybe, kind of.

It may have been the Russia.

And that was in Russia did it.

And so that was highly unusual for the FBI in the middle of one of the most important investigations in their history, a presidential candidate accusing the other candidate of being in league with the Russians to hack their computers.

And then she won't turn the computers over to the FBI to establish the truth.

And the FBI is happy with that.

Right.

James Comey.

And then you had James Comey telling the president of the United States, you're basically not under investigation when he was under investigation.

And then he was taking notes while he was an FBI employee on FBI iPads or whatever they use, and then he was turning around and memorializing those so he could leak them and write a book.

Yeah, and write a book and then tweet things about Nietzsche and the philosophical traumas that he had suffered.

So, from the A to Z,

the FBI has been robbed.

And when you collate this, Jack, with what they, you know, I'm no fan of Roger Stone, but when you

make this elaborate CNN shows up up at the very moment that you're going to raid the guy's house in the early morning hours, and then you go after Project Veritas,

and

you, what?

You know that these, you've had these Hunter laptop computers in your possession, and you know they're from Hunter Biden, and he does not even himself deny that.

And yet there's a news blackout, and the FBI does nothing because they do not want the information to come out.

So when you add all of this up, and then Comey and then and McCabe, and then we're not even talking about the dream team, all-star lawyer, Lisa Page, and her paramour, Peter Strzzok, who were communicating in a way that made them impossible to be impartial when they were on the special counsel's team.

They were fired and then Robert Mueller staged their departures.

Oh, she's being reassigned.

Oh.

he's being assigned and then we had the missing phones remember those jack the fbi's uh cell that were turned oh wow i don't know what happened they were wiped clean we didn't get them all and then we had good old bob mueller the wonderful prosecutor who was going to take the dream team and clean up all of these old handlebar mustache uh lawyers and jay sequerelle that trump used and he was absolutely inept andrew wisem was a total partisan.

He was inept.

They spent $40 million.

They wasted 20 months of the country's precious time.

And then it all culminated in good old Bob Mueller under testimony and House committees saying, I have no idea what Fuse and GPS is.

I don't know anything about the dossier.

After his whole legal team had been leaking, leaking for a long time.

So what does all this mean?

I think you really do have to dissolve the FBI.

I don't mean end the idea of the FBI.

but you've got to take it out of Washington because its players get involved with big, they revolving door like James Comey.

He goes in to be a corporate lawyer, I think, at Lockheed.

He goes back into government, DOJ, corporate stuff, just like the Pentagon generals and admirals.

They would just take the thing out and put it in, say, Kansas City in the center of the country and get a professional guy up from the ranks and don't get any of these corporate grandees in the beltway and start over.

I think it could be saved, but it cannot be saved given its record.

It's got to be abolished because they're just not trusted, whether it's Baker, whether it's Klein Smith, or whether it's McCabe or the former FBI leader Mueller or Comey

or Page or Struck.

I could go on forever.

It's just not, it's not, it's not solvable.

The whole system is corrupt.

They're all left-wing, Jack, because they understand that to be promoted and to get a corporate market label on you, whether you in between government gigs and and afterwards.

So if you're a general, you want to go to General Dynamics or Northrop or Lockheed, and then you want to go back out after government and use your knowledge to enrich your old employers.

And if you're in the DOJ or you're in the CIA or in the FBI, you want to go in, have your security company go to your and then get back in.

It's just too insidious.

And so put them back in the heartland and where they're centrally located and they can coordinate law enforcement and when local law enforcement don't have jurisdiction.

That was the idea of it.

So let's do it.

Yeah.

After they get finished with the parents attending school board meetings.

I still doubt about that.

That's a very good point, Merrick Garland, the domestic tariffs.

Well, Victor, we have time for one more subject, and I think it's going to be a healthy subject.

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The traditionalist Victor, I'm going to throw a little salad out here.

Four items.

There could be 100 items, but here are four.

One, from October 2020 to October 2021, real wage growth has dropped.

1.2%.

We've also seen inflation rate in October highest in 30 years, over 6%.

Another news story that Joe Biden is considering killing another pipeline, this one that goes mostly through Michigan, which of course would just devastate oil prices, which, as we know, are in much of the country are already $4.

But as you've pointed out, some places in California, I think they've even hit $7.

Still related to energy and the economy.

Biden has nominated a woman.

I'm sorry, I'm looking at this Daily Mail story.

She's a Soviet-born,

what's her name, Omavara,

Sole

Omarova, to be controller of the currency.

True high

product of a communist educational system.

Yeah, well, she has earlier this year was at some lefty philanthropy gathering calling for the destruction or the bankrupting of the oil and energy industry in America.

And

she is Biden's nominee for this position.

Let's see, one other thing, Victor, to complete this salad, we have Pete Boudige,

our

transportation secretary, the man with the expertise from

Indiana, the mayor.

I think he got some bike, a bike lane put up in South Bend.

South Bend, the expert on transportation.

So he is saying that the supply chain crisis that America is facing has to do in part with child care.

Here's a report from MSN.

It says he was on Morning Joe yesterday.

That would be November 10th.

Udijo says that, well, U.S.

ports are full of ships waiting on low cargo.

There has been difficulty finding trucks, et cetera, et cetera.

There are a lot of things contributing to this.

One of them is child care.

Of course, which is why the president's Build Back Better Vision is going to be good for the labor market.

And I did not watch the show, but it said he repeatedly went back to that saying the supply chain problem is really a function of America needing better child care law.

So, Victor, look, there could be 50 other, 100 other kind of examples of insanity going on in our economy.

to my mind, self-induced.

All of it, of course, leads to inflation.

Your thoughts in general on this broad crisis, broadcasting.

Joe Biden.

I know our listeners are very interested in this because they are asking themselves every day as they look at this first 10 months and they say, hmm, A, are these people just so incompetent?

This makes Jimmy Carter look like Einstein.

I mean, who are these people?

They are destroying the country.

They're so inept.

Or they say, no, no, no.

This is a deliberate effort to undermine the fabric of American society to create a 2008-like crisis and then to trump the COVID crisis and get more legislation, more executive orders through under the guise of panic because everything is falling apart.

Or C,

they say, are we in an alternate universe?

Because these people keep thinking that all this is good.

You know, you look at Real Clear Politics, some of the articles that they post from the left, you know, that Joe Biden's great nine months.

I guess they're saying, you know, well, we're halfway to Stephen Chu's, $10 a gallon, that's good.

And I think the New York Times and Washington Post have been saying inflation is good because it spreads the wealth, takes the value away from those who have money, and gives money to people who don't have any.

Therefore, it's good.

And they look at the border and they say, hmm, 2 million more poor, impoverished people.

These are future democratic constituents.

Good.

Get out of Afghanistan.

That's better to be humiliated.

Teach the United States a little humility.

Good.

Critical race theory?

Well, that's good too.

Crime spiking in the cities?

Well, maybe the white upper classes will have a little bit of sensitivity to problems of others.

So they think it's good.

You hit on something when you look at their replies.

So everybody says, what's going on with the border?

And New Yorkers go, the border's secure.

It's never, it's just as secure as it's been.

Are you crazy?

People call that gaslighting or wellingism.

And then Jean-Pierre, this weird deputy secretary filling in for the COVIDly afflicted Gensaki, she goes on there and says, well, why wouldn't we give $450,000 to illegal aliens?

You think we'd give them to legal aliens?

I mean, why would we pay anybody who follows the rules?

We like lawbreakers.

And then you look at the supply chain, as you say, and Buddha Jeg is, you know, on his paternity leave.

So basically, his first 10 months have been, if you go back and look at the press of him and what he does, he gives press conferences about being gay and being gay and being married and being gay and being married and having children and has little documentaries about himself and then being gay and being married and being having children and getting time off.

And he was not around.

But it wouldn't matter anyway.

He didn't know anything about transportation other than in the spirit of this administration, if you are appointed to a particular position, your job is to undermine it.

So the Homeland Security's job is to make sure we have no security on the border.

The transportation person is to war against traditional transportation, fossil fuels, etc.

And the energy secretary is to make sure you destroy gas and oil and nuclear power.

That's just the way DOJ, make sure you undermine the rule of law.

And sickly up, that's how they view their jobs.

And so that's why they say these things.

So when you talk about the supply chain, Jen Saki says,

poor little guys didn't get their treadmills.

You tell that to somebody who can't afford to have, you know, a PSA or a mammogram.

Or you tell that to some guy out in Fresno County that's trying to buy some two by fours to fix his home and they're five times what they were.

That's not a treadmill, Jen.

And then we have the reply to the guests where this grand home just laughs.

Well, are you going to pump more ail?

That's ridiculous.

Why would we do that?

Our job is to destroy it.

We're just canceling pipelines.

We got another one being canceled.

It's to get ANWAR off the books.

It's to jawbone frackers and horizontal drillers.

It's to warn the industry they're doomed.

AOC warned them, 10 years and you're

gone.

And why would we do that?

That's crazy.

It's much better for the short term to tell the polluting Russians and the polluting Saudis who make a mess of their oil fields compared to ours, please, please, you know, pump some of this high overpriced, high, dirty fuel that we need right now because we're too good to build it.

And so that's where we are.

Every type of crisis, their answers are just absurd.

And inflation, you know, Ron Klain is tweeting that Obama economist that says it's just a high-class concern.

I was getting a haircut in a town that has a per capita income of $16,000 and the woman was apologizing to me that it has gone from $15 to $22.

And she says, we can't make it because everything has gone up from the rent to the power.

And I looked around and I used to have to be in line and there wasn't one person there.

And I said, well, all you're going to do is make people cut their own hair.

And she says, I know, or go out of business.

But you should see our bills.

And so these are the elites saying how good inflation is.

They have no idea.

These are young punks that came out of the university and they went into journalism school.

They know nothing.

One thing Ben Rhodes did was good.

Only one was when he said they know nothing.

We create an echo chamber.

Biden created an echo chamber, and the echo chamber was you go out and tell these idiots, reporters, that all of these bad things are good and down is up and up is down.

And then they're stupid enough to swallow it because they want to intermarry with each other.

They want to say they went to this party in Washington, they live in this zip code, and they're bankrupt people.

And they do a lot of damage.

They don't care about people's lives outside of where they live.

So when they say these things about inflation is good, they should have lived through it.

I lived through it

in the 70s and early 80s.

I think I've said before, you know, when you go buy a bag of sulfur and it says 220 and then there's an X on it and then there's $3 X on it and then there's 4 on it and because the bag happened to be in inventory for what, a month?

Or you're trying to get diesel fuel and the guy,

every time he delivers a diesel fuel, he has surcharge, 20 cents, 40 cents, because he doesn't know what the price is going to be.

It's going up every day.

And we'll see how that worked out.

They're going to bring Ronald Reagan's, somebody like him back.

They're going to destroy the Democratic Party like Carter did.

And then they'll get some guy, you know, some faker like Bill Clinton who will say, you know, I'm Bill Clinton.

I'm a moderate.

I want school uniforms and I want the border clothes and I'm against the illegal.

And they'll do that for 10 years until.

So they've destroyed the Democratic Party.

They know it.

And the only thing is they haven't hit bottom.

Right.

I'm speaking on the book in different cities this week and I have a game I play with myself.

I talk to people in taxicabs, airports, waiters, waitresses, etc.

And I just try to be very careful about what I say.

I don't try to be controversial.

I just say, you know, I talk about the things that are going on.

And many of them, I can tell, voted for Joe Biden.

And they're bewildered,

bewildered.

And I don't think you're going to get anybody in the suburbs to vote for this stuff again unless Donald Trump runs and starts, you know, because that was all that we saw McCall have had that Donald Trump tweets.

And when you can't tweet, the only thing I think might happen, Jack, I think Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey will put Trump back on Twitter and Facebook and hope that he starts tweeting again.

Well, Donald Trump said one thing just to wrap up what you just were talking about, Victor, when he accepted the nomination last year.

He said Joe Biden was a Trojan horse and he sure as hell.

He was absolutely right.

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