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Victor, good to be talking to you.

You know, this podcast may be aired on Election Day.

And of all the elections coming up in this quote-unquote off year, the biggest one seems to be the Virginia governor's race.

It is neck and neck in the polls between Terry McAuliffe, who is a former governor, can only serve one term in Virginia, versus the Republican.

uh Glenn Youngkin.

That's the that those are the voter polls.

The betting polls are more than a little more in McAuliffe's favor.

They have him at two to one.

Some interesting things have been happening in the last week or so.

Both Barack Obama and Joe Biden have been campaigning in Virginia on behalf of McAuliffe.

Obama attacked

Youngkin for creating what Obama called, quote, phony right-wing culture wars, end quote.

And we'll get to, we'll get later in the podcast, we'll talk about whether those wars are phony or or not.

Also, though, Douglas Wilder, who was the first black man elected to a governor in the United States, and that happened in the late 80s or early 90s, I forgot.

I was a resident of Virginia when it happened.

Wilder, still around by today's standards, I guess a conservative Democrat, attacked McAuliffe.

He said he's done nothing about historic Black colleges, whereas Youngkin has promised to do stuff for those institutions.

But he also attacked McAuliffe for his some of his bizarre statements uh saying you know parents really have nothing to say about their kids education so anyway victor this big juicy meaty race it it looks like even if youngkin doesn't win it's still maybe a harbinger of bad things to come for the democrats and for joe biden in the 2022 elections your thoughts about this race victor

yes well i think a lot of people are looking at it um

for the reasons you said and i think they're curious about three things, Jack.

They want to know if somebody who does not resemble a MAGA candidate and Youngkin doesn't, he's more in the Romney mold, although he's much more adroit politician.

But nonetheless, he's not a Trumper.

Can he still get the Trump

Southern and Western Virginia vote out?

Number one.

Number two,

by maintaining that group, can he still get the suburban soccer mom independent back into the Republican fold that Trump supposedly lost in 2020?

And can he, like Trump, or more so, make inroads with

the Hispanic vote?

And there's a larger and larger Hispanic vote in Virginia and the African-American vote.

And if he can do all three,

then he's going to win.

And he doesn't have to do all three by fantastic margins.

He just has to keep his base at Trump levels, who lost the state, I think, by 10%.

But he's got to get three or four or five percent more independents.

He's got to get four or five percent more African-American votes.

And I think on questions like the school board, the transgender crisis or disaster catastrophe that happened in the schools and the vaccine mandate, et cetera, et cetera, a lot of those workers are federal workers.

Some of them, Jack, have had COVID, and they want to know why when they have COVID antibodies, they have to go get injected when there's a slight chance of increased side effects.

They want to know why their children might, below the age of five, have to have a booster.

So, that mandate that Joe, that mandated vaccination that Joe Biden rolled out earlier,

three or four months ago, is going to hurt him.

And it's going to hurt him in Virginia.

So, everybody's looking at this because they want to look at which issues they should emphasize or de-emphasize.

Victor, let's talk

a little more about Joe Biden.

And also, by the way,

the other topics we'll talk about, I know I mentioned them earlier on, is the

Biden not having been to the border since 2008, it seems.

We have the national strategy on gender and equality.

There is a bunch of new Scott Rasmussen polls that I think belie this attack that Obama has about phony right-wing culture wars.

It may be phony to Obama, but they don't seem to be phony to a strong majority of Americans.

And if you're up to it, Victor, Anthony Fauci and dogs, I really, I mean, it's crazy, but I think we should talk about it.

So, Victor,

let's talk about Joe Biden

and let's begin with

his border visits or non-visits, and then we should go into this national strategy on gender, equity, and equality.

Um, yeah, I've been to the border.

Well, it turns out Jen Pisaki, I think, even admitted that Joe Biden was there when he was campaigning in 2008.

Now, Victor, we know he's been over the border, right?

He flew over the border with Hunter in his airplane to go

down to Mexico and maybe

wrangle up some bucks for Biden, Inc.

But yeah, what do you say about a man who's running for president and who is president who has not gone to

America's border where there is truly a crisis happening and has been happening

for years.

Well, we do.

First of all, he doesn't know where he may have been there and didn't know it, but he's, from what we know, he's never been to the border, not as senator, not as vice president, not as hunter's bagman, not as president.

And yet he lies about it.

He said, well, I visited there when I drove by and waved at it, I guess.

Anything he says now is not.

factual.

It really isn't.

Take, you know, if you got your passport, just go to the Kabula airport and get on a train, a plane, you'll be happy.

Or, you know,

I came in here and there was nobody vaccinated.

I started the vaccination program.

They're all my, that's my program.

That kind of stuff.

You know, we've got to stop whipping these people at the border.

Come on now, man.

So

he's not factual.

And we go back and forth in this, Jack.

the non-compost mentis issue is really not the issue.

The issue is that a plagiarist

and a person who lied about his resume and a person who's uttered utterly racist

diatribes and a person has seerily harassed women and harassed them really to be honest underage

has this veneer torn off by old age.

So old Joe Biden from Scranton now is old Joe Biden unleashed.

He's like that great uncle of yours, you know, that all of a sudden he was kind of avuncular or nice.

And all of a sudden, in his 90s, he starts saying crap, then you realize he was never a nice person to begin with.

And so

that's what he is.

So he doesn't care about the border.

All he's, what we're talking about is

people in his party

have said to him, you are not to remember this, Joe, you do not enforce federal immigration law.

We want 2 million people a year.

We want them to go on federal entitlements.

They are the basis for flipping new states.

You just do that.

We'll ship them out at night.

We don't care.

In a real finding, Jack, in the sane world where it says the president shall faithfully execute the laws, he would be impeached.

And we'll see what the Republicans do when they come into power and they follow the Democratic new precedent that in your first term, when the opposition party seizes the house, they impeach you.

Maybe not twice like the Democrats did.

But if you ever, I can't think of a president who just said, I'm not going to enforce the law, period.

And that's, that's an impeachable offense.

And so that is a high crime and misdemeanor not to follow the law.

Right.

And so we'll see.

So that's the issue, I think, that he doesn't want to get near the border.

He's been told to let in anybody and everybody.

We've got a huge caravan that's approaching.

They've already vowed they'll use violence if they have to to break through.

And it's a lose-lose political issue for him personally and for his party.

And they keep doing this, pushing things, New Green Deal, cutting back on gas and oil,

pushing critical race theory that all do not pull 50%.

And we've discussed why that is, incompetence or just delusional

belief that you know it's it'll be popular someday or cynicism we got to get this agenda you know before the wolves come over and find out who we are and you know well maybe i'm going to ask you to repeat these uh sentiments again uh victor but instead of going talking about this national strategy on gender which we will let me raise some of these some recent polls so scott rasmussen who i'm very fond of scott you're a friend i'm I'm pretty sure you know Scott.

He has conducted like daily, these string of polls of you typically have a thousand registered voters.

I'm just going to read the principal result.

And two polls are a backdrop of how most Americans think of America, as we, you know, we're taught to think about.

And he says he finds it 70%

believe America is founded on noble ideals of freedom, equality, and self-governance.

And then another poll, 72% of Americans believe equality of opportunity is a fundamental American principle.

Equality of outcome is not.

So this is a backdrop to these other polls.

Three.

First, 65% of Americans believe the federal government is actively working to get more power and control over the lives of everyday Americans.

73% see the federal government as a special interest group that looks out primarily for its own interests.

72% believe the IRS already collects too much information and thinks more privacy protections are required.

Victor, I think those numbers are pretty significant.

They are.

And

this is into what the Biden, or they call it, the Biden-Harris administration are trying to push this agenda that clearly is out of sync with America.

And they're not new.

I mean, when I wrote The Dying Citizens, one of the things I did when I outlined the book is to see what people were really upset about as far as

their citizenship and one of them was the administrative state i.e the irs and these permanent bureaucracies so we he started with the idea that he should have been very careful but yet today merit garland is on television being grilled by u.s senators and it's pretty clear that some staffers at a pretty high level cooked up the idea that this was embarrassing optics for the president and that they wanted to stop.

They wanting, they being the federal government in the form of the White House and the relevant cabinet agencies, and they wanted it stopped.

They don't want people coming and questioning critical race theory or transgender issues or suggesting that a school board covered up a rape, Falachio, sodomy of a young girl,

just because the guy had a dress on.

And the same, and that may have happened on two separate occasions.

And so what happened was, and this is just long excursus about why people are angry in the polls that that you related.

The people in the White House then communicated

with the National School Board Association and they cooked up this letter and they tried to be psychodramatic and got, you know, Patriot Act

to domestic terrorists.

And then they gave it to Merrick Garland, being the little kiss ass that he is.

Oh, this is a good, this is a good chance for me to shine and get rounding points with Joe Biden.

And so he then he sent, you know, he sent this letter and sick the FBI out, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

But it's again a sign of unelected people that are acting as judge, juries, and executioner with enormous federal power.

And we've talked about Comey and Clapper and Brennan and Mueller and McKay

and Millie.

And they're all Fauci

and Hinal Garland.

And so this is what's really scaring people.

They are saying to themselves, I don't like these people, A.

I don't like to be lectured by Millie.

I'm sick of fauci's lies i don't like merit garland with the you know tear in the headlights i don't like these people and they got too much power and they're trying to destroy the country that i love and my own personal options my freedoms and so it's not going to get better for joe biden and my only

you know mystery is do the republicans have a contract for america like agenda that they're ready to hit the ground even though they don't have the presidency they may well take the house and senate and can they give a list of counter issues can they say we are going to pump 12 million barrels that's our goal we are going to stop cold any funding for critical waste theory that's our goal we are going to

filibuster or stop, I can't filibuster on the judicial point, but we're going to filibuster all of these radical ideas.

We are going to stop these judicial nominees that are hard left.

If they've got it, and they will be in good,

they'll be in a good position in 2024.

But if they do what they did when Trump came in and said, well, we kind of want to reform, kind of get rid of Obamacare.

We can't, we pampaign, but we really don't know what we're doing.

And

good old John McCain, I don't want to say anything bad about him, but he might just derail the whole thing.

That was what their attitude was, lackadaisical.

And they'll really blow it if they don't have a counter, a counter-agenda.

I sense a Victor Davis-Hanson column coming on someday about what that agenda should be.

Victor, maybe, you know, I wanted to talk about this garland issue on yet another podcast we do, but let's just switch it here a little more, if you don't mind, with some of the stuff that came.

So today there were hearings on the Senate, and two senators in particular just

gave it to him.

I'm reading a piece on this

by

former National Review colleague, Carolyn Downey, who's done great stuff on this critical race theory.

She's writing,

Tom Cotton went after him about the Loudoun County sexual assault, told

Garland that this was shameful.

And thank God you're not on the Supreme Court.

You should resign in disgrace.

Love Tom Cotton.

The facts are that this 19 state board groups have now told a nonprofit organization called Parents Defending Education that they disagreed with this

national group letter that came out brandishing parents as

hate criminals.

Asked by Ben Sasse,

like, why did Ohio pull out of this?

You know, Mr.

Garland and Garland.

responds, you know, I don't know.

And SAS attacks back because this was political hackery.

And what it's amazing in the face of

the really bad news that has come out on this one particular issue

that Garland, maybe it's not amazing,

but there's no backing down

here.

And

I don't know, I connect the dots, at least locally, to the Virginia Senate, the Virginia governor's race.

There just seems to be a political ham-handedness all around, but a real sense of ideology.

See, what we're talking about, Jack, is that if you're on the right,

you get up in the morning every day and expect to be trashed, misrepresented,

caricatured, smeared, slandered by the media.

And that's an addition to the opposition party.

And so you're careful.

That's called deterrence.

I don't like it myself.

It happens to me every day.

But when I write something, I pick up my email, I get hate mail.

I even post some of them under the angry reader.

Yeah, I get opposition.

So that makes me think

I'm going to be very careful what I say because this is, I don't pull punches, but I'm prepared for it.

The left gets up every morning thinking, I can do whatever I want, excuse the language, I can just do it, and the media will make the necessary adjustments to cover.

And that's what's happened to them all.

It's like an athlete that doesn't work out, they're flabby.

So, this Garland character thinks, you know what, here's coming on my desk.

I'll just get the FBI and say, I'm

Merrick Garland, AG of the United States.

Here, look at this buzzword, domestic terror.

Look at FBI, haha.

You guys will snap to attention.

And the media will, and now all of a sudden it doesn't quite work that way because people are fed up and there's a populist revolt against all of this.

And so they've overreached.

And now the media who has destroyed their reputation, all polls show that they're...

their polls are below 30% in many cases.

They don't know what to do and they're not quite as helpful and obsequious.

They're obsequious, not quite as much as they were.

And these people are not used to it.

And so whether it's General Milley with that arrogant attitude,

I'm investigating white rage.

And this was a

just

attack on

that drone strike.

It was righteous.

And all of this crap, they just say things because they think everybody's going to cover for, nobody's going to cover for you anymore.

And so they're exposed.

And when Garden, he couldn't say anything.

It reminded me of James Comey.

I don't know.

Can't remember.

Call somebody else.

Just like Clapper, just like Brennan, just like Mueller, just like McCabe, just like Strzok, just like Paige.

They're all used to having that cocoon around them.

And then when it's not there, it's they're they're empty hollow people.

Right.

And Garden's a joke.

He's just the same same fantasy as Joe Biden, good old Joe from Scranton, good old Merrick Garland.

He got a broad deal.

He should have been on the court.

He was a great moderate.

No, he was always an Eric Holder type operative.

And now he, right out of the gate, he told us that.

He showed us that.

And if he had any integrity, he would say

the Attorney General is not a partisan person.

I got pressure from the White House to

go after political point

T

political appointments on the prompt of a teachers union dash National School Board Association dash leftist organization, I caved for a while and I made a mistake and I'm going to resign.

And that's what he should do.

And there's no chance in hell he'll do that.

Right.

And Victor, as you just mentioned, and we talked about on many other podcasts, the culpability and the justice that just doesn't seem to happen, not on this planet, to folks who engage in criminal acts or, hey, they try to ruin a presidency and they end off getting away scot-free with a pension.

It's remarkable.

Someone else who seems to be getting away possibly with perjury, we could talk about that.

I can't make a legal accusation, I ain't no lawyer, but Anthony Fauci, who clearly denied and in congressional sworn congressional testimony when directly questioned by Rand Paul about gain of function, United States taxpayer dollars being used for gain of function,

research at the very Wuhan lab that likely brewed this pathogen that's killed.

ungodly number of people said it didn't happen.

Of course, the evidence came out.

No, it did.

It did happen.

But I think you think, and I certainly think for that, he's not going to pay any price.

But

news came out earlier over this past weekend, and I don't mean to make light of this,

but about

National Institutes of Health, or whatever, you know, the institution he

formally runs, engaging in just kind of barbaric research of dogs, of beagles.

Just, I mean, too ghastly, gruesome to talk about what they've done to this.

I kind of think, you know, maybe that maybe.

Who are you to judge?

Who are you to judge, Jack, that

taking out the vocal cords of a beagle so it can't cry in agony as you lock its head in a cage and let it be eaten by sandflies is not important for scientific research?

Come on.

Michael Vick went to jail for how many months?

Because he bred, you know, absolutely.

I mean,

Mitt Romney had his campaign almost destroyed on the accusation that he put his dog in a cage on top of the house.

Come on.

So, yeah, I mean,

we've gone over Dr.

Fauci.

Donald Trump made

an existential error when

he's a very bright guy and he knew that Anthony Fauci was a partisan, was a deep state operative, and had not had a distinguished career and was a practitioner of what we call the noble lie, the platonic right out of Plato's Republic, you know, the Geneos pseudos.

And it was the idea that the people are so stupid that every once in a while

we have to say things that are untrue and we do that for their own good.

So Anthony Fauci said, we don't need masks.

they're not important.

And then when he started to urge them, they said, but you said to so,

well i just lied because you foolish idiots would have gone out and hoarded them and then the doctors wouldn't have them 60 70 we talked about this with herd immunity he kept raising the bar because if he's told what he thought would achieve herd immunity he was afraid people wouldn't be vaccinated and the same thing on gain of function had he told them the truth that this there was no way in the world this came from a pangolin or a bat they didn't have one case in nature a thousand miles away, a bat gets it.

And then somehow the virus, what, is time traveled into Wuhan without one animal on the way getting infected?

Come on.

And then people dropping dead in Wuhan from a bat in a cave way away.

Everybody knew that it was from the virology lab.

It was right there.

They knew the Chinese military was involved.

What we didn't know, though, and here's my point: that the United States government, under the aegis of Anthony Fauci, director of

the Nassau Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases, was funding a 600,000 to Batwoman or Bat Lady on all hidden, if I could use that term, by being rerouted through Echo Hell.

Then we had this Peter Dasick character who tarred,

slandered, smeared people.

And I say that as one who was.

I wrote an article and Axios magazine went after it.

And this writer claimed that I was stupid and I was an idiot, that all of the people that she consulted said it was no way could it have been engineered gain of function.

The DNA proved that it was all a lie.

And that was the group think that he cooked up.

And then he got the Lancet to run a quote-unquote investigation under his aegis where he stalked the committee.

And then he went over there and the Chinese said, you know, no can do.

We're not going to give you any money.

Not going to happen.

We're not going to give you any access.

We're not going to give you any documents.

We're not going to give you anything.

And then they came back and said, well, you know, it's kind of sort of, still think it's kind of maybe a natural thing, but the Chinese were kind of sort of maybe uncooperative.

And then the whole thing blew up.

He should have been fired.

Trump should have put his arm around him, as I said earlier, and said, you know what, you had a wonderful career.

We are indebted for 50 years of public service and we're going to miss you, but we won't have you around tomorrow morning.

And he would have had a lot of anti-Faucias, we know from those redacted emails that trove.

He was contacting everybody.

He was on the MSNBC.

He was always undermining Donald Trump in general and Scott Atlas in particular.

He was.

And everybody knew it.

And he should have, and he did the same noble lie thing, if you remember, way back a long, long time ago.

in the 80s when we were all terrified of AIDS and nobody knew what it was.

And he started floating the possibility that it could be a heterosexually casually transmitted disease.

And there was pretty good evidence that it was confined mostly to three categories of IV drug users, Haitians, and homosexuals.

And he didn't want that to be.

canonized because he felt in noble lie fashion that if it were, then people would say, well, I'm not very sympathetic to IV people and, you know,

if they're homophobic or Haitian, that's their problem.

I'm more worried about whether, but if you say that, you know, Jane, my 16-year-old daughter, might go out with Bill, her 16-year-old boyfriend, and kiss once and come home with AIDS.

Oh my God, we got to pour money into it.

Now, maybe that was a noble thing to do, but that's a noble lie, a noble lie.

And he's been a practitioner his entire life.

I'm sure he's going to say if he's pressed on the beagles, he'd say, you know what?

I did not want to do it, but I had a choice to make.

It was life or death for millions of people.

So I chose to have these poor animals killed, but I saved a lot of people.

It's a noble thing to do.

And I had to lie about it because if I had told you the truth,

you know, PETA and all you groups would have been so outraged that thousands of people would have died because we couldn't have liquidated and tortured and maimed and mutilated these puppies.

That's how he operates.

Yeah.

Well.

I still, I hold out hope that a nation of dog lovers might be the ones that bring this guy to some degree of justice, although I'm I'm doubtful.

Victor, one last topic before we

wrap up.

This is

the fact that the White House, again, the Biden-Harris administration,

has put out a national strategy on gender equity and equality.

So as we just talked about before, you know, insanity at the border and in any number of, you could, you've done a laundry list of

insanities affecting um america and yet we have are the the

psychological and political capital uh to put out um this statement it's not only statement it's a it's a it's a large uh report i'm just going to read the very initial um part of it not the whole report just the statement president biden vice president harris believe that advancing gender equity and equality is fundamental to every individual's economic security safety health health, and ability to exercise their most basic rights, is also essential to economic growth and development, democracy and political stability, and the security of nations around the globe.

Ensuring that all people, regardless of gender, have the opportunity to realize their full potential is therefore both a moral and strategic imperative.

You know, I like how all these things eventually get cast as national security.

A lot of this about women and girls, especially women and girls of color.

At the end, they're caboosing onto this.

Of course, we also mean, you know, LBGTQ.

The last thing I'll say, Victor, before you comment, is last night, and again, we're recording on October 27th, I was watching Guttfeld.

And one of the guys on the show, oh, the wrestler, I can't remember his name, Tyrus.

Tyrus, yeah.

Tyrus was going, you know, about this very issue says, well,

you know,

there's a 60-40 split now between women getting accepted to college versus men.

I mean, men are dying five years earlier.

Men, Guttfeld brought this up, men were 50% more likely to die from COVID

than were women.

So anyway, this comes in the

report is put out in the backdrop of all these other terrible things afflicting our nation right now.

It seems to be a priority for this administration.

What are your thoughts?

Well,

this crazy White House

gender equity plan, it was just like the infrastructure bill.

Everybody's for infrastructure.

And then they threw everything but the

kitchen sink that could not stand on its own merits.

So in this bill, I think they even got rid of cash.

I read it.

They got rid of cash bail, didn't they?

And they said, you know,

it's against women of color that they might be arrested and therefore they wouldn't have cash.

So they could, they should be be turned loose immediately.

So they put every imaginable race,

class, gender,

hot button issue that had zero public support because they're leftists and that's what leftists do.

They always say that they have superior morality and their superior

moral ends justify any means necessary to achieve them.

And the means are to

to hoodwink the public by saying, are you against infrastructure?

Are you against against gender equity, you sexists?

And if you say, No, I'm not.

Well, then here's the bill.

And then you look at the bill, and it has very little to do with what it says it has to do, but everything with a wider agenda.

And what is that wider agenda?

It's mostly an equity agenda in the broadest sense of the word.

By that, it means an equality of result in terms of class, race,

gender, et cetera.

And if it's not exactly equal, that is on the back end, then somebody is racist or sexist or homophobic, and the government's duty is to use its resources to fix it with one or two qualifiers.

And that is, if there's 60% of women in college and there's 40%

men as a result of all of these weird policies of the last 40 years, well, then that's not,

that's exempt because that's reparatory.

In 1880 there wasn't in 1910 there wasn't so we're going to have 64 from now on

and if you have a situation where the nba is 76 percent african american well that's okay we don't believe in disproportionality or disparate impact in this case because you know what we're making up for 1948 or 53 or 61.

so that's how they operate and you can never i mean what they say is in a bill is not in the bill.

And when they talk about border security, my favorite term is comprehensive immigration reform.

That is a euphemism for amnesty.

It always is.

And, you know, undocumented migrants, people that just happened to wake up one morning and they were going across the United States and they said, oh my God,

I forgot my papers.

Now I'm undocumented.

I was documented, but now I'm on

documented.

And you think, no, you never had any papers, and you're not a migrant that just goes back and forth.

You're an immigrant, and you're a person of a foreign nation.

You're called an alien from Latin, not of this place,

and you are illegally entering my country.

So

that's what we're dealing with.

And it's very hard to combat because as soon as you try to bring facts to their attention, then

you're erasing.

And everybody's tired of it.

And the question that we all don't know what's happening, we all don't know if in our little cubicle, our little office, our tiny little community at the water pool, or you name the time and place, if we're crazy or that there's millions of us that are small little volcanoes that are about to erupt and they're going to say to themselves, not this pig, non-hick porcus, no more.

Not in the 233rd year of this republic.

Are we going to hand you on a platter of the United States and have you desecrate it, destroy it, smear it, slander it, misrepresent it, and then hijack it?

Not going to happen.

And we'll see if that anger is collective or whether they've so institutionalized these changes in the government and the demography that they can't be changed.

But I have a feeling that

they're going to have a tsunami next year in the midterms.

I don't think they're going to do well in three years at the presidential level.

And I think they're going to see a lot of increased demonstrations because these as we said earlier

these crises are becoming existential when you don't have things on the the shelf and you're paying five dollars for gas and you can't walk outside in downtown san francisco or portland or new york or los angeles at night

and you don't really know

whether the person who's broken into your house is a 10-time felon who was let out.

Right.

And you know, that morning.

Yeah.

Yeah, that morning.

So this system, or you know, you can't, you look at these ships and they're not being unloaded,

or you have certain people that routinely deliberately break the law and they feel that they're exempt from it.

I don't think, I think a lot of people say this system's not working.

It's not ideological anymore.

It's just not working.

And we either stop it or it's going to eat it.

It's going to devour us.

Well, those aforementioned Erasmus and Poles, I think, show that there is a, you know, there's a wellpool of potential

forces there to combat, but they need to be

organized and led.

All that said, Victor, we're running out of time, but we have a few things of business we have to mention.

One is that you mentioned earlier in the podcast, Angry Reader, and I don't know if all our listeners know that Angry Reader is one of the features of VictorHanson.com.

I want to recommend that our listeners visit the site regularly because you'll find all sorts of links there to other places where, not only these podcasts, but other podcasts you've been on or your appearances on various radio shows, etc.

There is a treasure trove and a voluminous amount of original material

that you've written that can only be read on victorhanson.com.

A membership is very reasonable.

It's five bucks a month.

$50 a year.

Stick your toe in the water.

Try the $5 special and

you will find a lot of material there.

I just want to say, as for me,

I am the director of the Center of Civil Society, which is centerforcivilsociety.com at American Philanthropic.

And I encourage our listeners maybe to check it out because we're trying to strengthen civil society.

And I write a weekly email newsletter called Civil Thoughts, civilthoughts.com.

Check it out, free.

There's no obligations, et cetera.

Third thing, Victor.

So, two things about the book.

One,

you know, we do read, we read all the comments that people post at iTunes, but today I want to read one that somebody posted on Amazon about the dying citizen.

And it's by a gentleman,

Tony Meyer.

And he gave the book five stars, which is, you know, rating

system on Amazon.

And he described, it's titled The Greatest Intellectual of Our Times.

I don't know if Mrs.

Hansen can tolerate your

being married tolerate it.

Well, this is what Tony Meyer writes: slam dunk.

Victor Davis Hansen is the most outstanding intellectual of our times.

He is a Renaissance man, being a top classicist, premier historian, and perceptive political commentator of our changing world.

And all this rolled into one.

With his deep understanding of current events and his vast understanding of history, Victor Davis Hansen delineates our caste system, so to speak, and its history.

It is not a nice word to pigeonhole someone, an intellectual in today's world.

So I use that word sparingly, but with Victor Davis Hansen, I utilize that word with admiration.

When Professor Hansen speaks, I listen.

He inspires me to learn and study plus ask questions.

I say to everyone, bon a petit as you feast on this new classic of Victor Davis Hansen.

Even if you don't read this masterpiece, at least make it part of your library.

And this is what I love, how this ends together with thucydides winston churchill mark twain ralph waldo emerson thomas jefferson and the other great writers also belongs victor davis hansen thank you for that tony meyer and 165 people found that helpful by the way this there was one other person had something to say about your uh your book and i on donaldjtrump.com donald j trump who happened to have been the previous president of the United States yesterday put up a little thing.

It's a great new book by Victor Davis Hansen, The Dying Citizen.

Nobody better at explaining the disaster of what is happening in the USA.

A must read.

So that's nice.

That was very nice.

And the book is doing very well.

Now that

it's recovered from its mysterious and still inexplicable out-of-stock, don't kind of

warning sign, don't buy it, on the second day it was out for about two weeks.

Now it's apparently magically in stock, even though the publisher swears and is correctly swearing that there were thousands of copies when it was supposedly out of stock.

I guess that

container ship was one of the first ones.

But

it'll be a tortoise book.

It'll keep going rather than a hare that tires.

Well,

it's evergreen.

And so, folks,

you'll find a link for the book on VictorHanson.com.

So to all who listen, thank you to those who have left reviews at iTunes and

your stars, which the average is still, it's 5.0.

Victor, I don't think anyone, you could not possibly have a higher average on iTunes than

your podcast

has, and it's quite deserved.

So thanks for folks who

leave the star ratings and those who leave the messages.

we do read them.

We will be back again.

I will be with Victor on another episode episode of The Traditionalist and also The Classicist.

And do listen also to the great Sammy Wink on the culturalist.

Thanks all for listening.

We'll see you again soon, or we'll be talking to you again soon.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And we'll see everybody or hear everybody or talk to everybody very soon.