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Hello, gentlemen.

Welcome to the Victor Davis-Hanson Show.

Victor is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayna Marsha Buskie Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.

He's a man with the website, The Blade of Perseus.

You can find that at victorhanson.com.

Victor also does a daily

video, five, six, seven-minute video for the Daily

Signal.

We are recording on Tuesday, September 9th, and this particular

episode of the Victor Davis Hanson Show will be up on Thursday, September 11th,

a tragic day.

I don't know if tragedy is the right way.

You've talked about tragedy, Victor.

A terrible day in our history, September 24th.

I even hate to use the word anniversary, you know, because anniversary sounds celebratory.

It was 24 years ago today that thousands of Americans were murdered.

But we will get to that a little later, Victor, because we're going to talk about a poll of Democrats hating capitalism.

And I think there's a, I'd like to work September 11th into that a little bit when we get there.

But, you know, first, Victor, we will talk about some of the ongoing racist-related murders in America.

We're going to get Victor's take on that, on a very interesting piece by Charlie Gasperino, columnist for the New York Post, on, hey, lots of people are saying now, let New York go to hell.

and let it crash and burn and then rebuild.

Conor McGregor wants to be president of Ireland, that and other topics.

We'll get to all of them when we come back from these important messages.

Hi, this is a special segment of our show.

You know, we began the show that's out on Thursday the 11th.

We recorded it on Tuesday the 9th, and Victor and I are talking right now in the evening in the East.

It's 7:06 p.m.

in Connecticut on September 10th, and

we are speaking specially to Victor tonight because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

So, Victor, shocking news, troubling news.

And would you give your initial thoughts of

not only what happened, we know what happened, but

the consequences of this maybe.

Whatever your thoughts are, Victor, please.

Well, I knew Charlie pretty well.

I'd gone out and spoken with him and his group.

And I just the weird weird thing, I had just been on his show about a few days ago and then after the show was over we had a nice talk.

I think he was very misunderstood.

He was a very kind person that reached out to people.

He never lost his temper.

Remember he just did one with Gavin Newsom and he was trying to

talk about issues that other conservatives were not talking about, like marriage for young people, fertility.

And then

his efforts to get out the vote and register vote.

It was a political assassination because when you think of people under the age of 35 on the conservative side who combined photogenic ability to speak to people without notes,

to do a podcast, to have the administrative skill to create from scratch a huge organization, to be political savvy and to know which states to go in and how to approach the electorate to help the conservatives.

And you put all that together, he is irreplaceable.

He really is.

I can't think of anybody who could do that.

And that's what's really stunning.

And the other thing, very quickly, is this is, there's two or three things.

This was a political assassination, but it was also a journalistic.

We don't really in this country do what they do in Europe, or maybe we've had Solomon Rushdie, a public intellectual.

We had some, I think in 2019, there was a news organization where a guy went after them.

But usually we don't see attacks on reporters or journalists or podcasters.

And so this is new.

And if this person turns out to be on the left, I have no idea, then

it's not just a political act, but it's also trying to thwart the dissemination of knowledge.

The other thing, very quickly, we saw that with the two Trump would-be assassins, that they were mentally ill and disturbed, yes.

And we've seen that now with

the

creepy predator murder executioner of that beautiful girl we talked about from the Ukraine.

And he was mentally ill.

But the reaction to it is always

the reaction is like we saw from the mayor of Charlotte.

Let's not demonize the homeless.

Let's not blame anybody.

Let's not do this.

This guy was crazy.

I don't really care anymore.

You know that?

I don't care.

It doesn't make any difference to Charlie's family, his daughters to grow up without a father.

It doesn't matter whether he was killed by somebody who was a hired political assassin or whether the person had mental problems.

It doesn't really matter.

When I walk on the street in San Francisco and somebody is defecating and comes up and tries to push me, I don't really care whether he's crazy or he's sane.

It's just a fact that that happens.

And to Romania, the Ukrainian girl who was murdered, it doesn't really matter whether the guy thought he was talking his head.

The way he did that, he knew what he was doing.

And so I think

everybody's tired of that.

The third thing is

there's violence on both sides, and I understand that the Minnesota judge who was a person who went after the activist in Minnesota was probably, I don't know what he was, center right or something.

But when you look at the Scalise assassinations and you look at the, I think his name was Brian Thompson, the United Health Executive, you look at the two

attempts on Trump's life,

you get the, and then you correlate that in a wider atmosphere of just things like the New Republic putting Trump with the mustache or a poll taken after the second assassination attempt that says 30%

of the Democratic Party thought they would have liked Trump to be killed.

Or you look at what comes on MSNBC, that Matthew Dowd, who's really become a creepy guy, basically going right in there and saying he deserved it.

And you look at Hikem Jeffries doing a video with a baseball bat.

Or you look at House members kickboxing and punching.

Or you look at the head of the DNC.

We're not going to bring pencils anymore.

You know what I mean?

Chuck Schumer with the Supreme Court.

Yep, Chuck Schumer.

You, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, you sowed the wind.

You're going to reap the world.

You don't know what's going to to hit.

So the left always says that we're more sophisticated, we're more moral than you.

So we're going to use tough language.

You get Jasmine Crockett and this utter, utter vile racism about white people, white people.

And then you see Joy Reed basically

just horrific things she said on MSNBC.

You see Sonny Huston on The View saying, well, it's uneducated white women.

White, white, white, white, white, white.

And you get all of this, and you get the impression that they are lowering the bar of what's acceptable.

It's acceptable.

Because if you really believe that Charlie Kirk is part of a Nazi movement, or he's a white privileged, white rage, white supremacist, or Donald Trump is, and

you need to have videos about kickboxing him and punching him and hitting him with a bat.

It all filters down.

And there's people out there that interpret that as, well,

we have a Hitler, we have a fascist.

If I do something to him, what will be the reaction?

I bet people will consider me a, what, a Luigi Mangioni and have an opera about me?

And Taylor Lorenz is going to give a puff-piece

interview about how charismatic and Rolling Stone is going to put my picture on the and maybe, I don't know, Photoshop it to make me look handsome like the Sarnoff mask killer.

That's where we are.

Here's a Charlie Kirk ex-post recent victor that he wrote:

assassination culture is spreading on the left.

48% of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk.

55% said the same thing about Donald Trump.

California activists are naming ballot measures after Luigi Mangioni.

The left is being whipped into a violent frenzy.

Any setback, whether losing an election or losing a court case, justifies a maximally violent response.

This is the natural outgrowth of left-wing protest culture tolerating violence and mayhem for years on end.

The cowardice of local prosecutors and school officials have turned the left into a ticking time bomb.

Yeah, that has.

I've never seen a level of hatred.

And I'm not talking about, you know, hard politics, Lee Atwater type of politics, or James Carville type politics.

I'm talking about something different.

When you

tell people

and you basically encourage them to use violence, and we're going to take Trump out,

and

you shake a cane at people on the floor of the house, like Al Green.

Or, as I said about Hykem Jeffries,

you show up with a baseball bat, or Spartacus saying that he would like to hit Trump, as he did once, said that.

And then you have all this Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, all fascists.

He's a fascist.

Kamal Harris called him a fascist.

You have all of this stuff.

And the result of it is it does appeal to a certain person who wants to be renowned and feels that, I don't know, I'll go down in the annals of leftist history and I'll be a member of the

leftist pantheon forever if I just do this.

And then if I do it, I don't think

this criminal justice system is going to do anything.

Hinckley's out.

Carlos Brown got out.

He had 14 felonies.

So there's two things going on.

The would-be assassin feels there's no consequences for their

crime.

And two,

there's actually a cost-to-benefit analysis or rewards and punishment analysis.

They think they're going to be rewarded.

And I will bet you, and I haven't looked, that if you go on social media or Blue Sky or whatever, that thing, there are people

just celebrating right now.

They are.

They are.

Yeah, I can imagine they are.

And when I saw Matthew Dowd, I said, well, you know, Charlie Kirk was very polarized.

As soon as you go down that route, and then he tried to say that it was one of his own supporters.

Yeah, maybe it was one of his supporters.

Yeah.

He should be socially ostracized.

I mean, really,

that's a horrific thing to say.

But

if I was Donald Trump,

and I pray for his safety, I think they should triple down on his

secret service because most people would think, well, this is so horrific, we don't want to ever see this again.

But the left-wing mind of certain people on the left is, well, if this guy did it, then I can do better than that.

That's how it works.

We saw that with the second assassin.

He was encouraged by the near-miss of the first assassin.

You mentioned it earlier at the outset here, the effectiveness of Charlie.

And it's interesting.

The other night I was with my niece, who's no conservative, and she brought it up.

Like, this guy in his videos, you know, I don't agree with everything he says, but the fact that he has these conversations, it's really interesting.

Like, the fact that he engages in dialogue was a winning thing.

And I don't know if you remember, a few...

A few months ago, the Democrats were talking about

how do we get our Charlie Kirk?

Because he is so effective.

He talks about things that most people don't talk about.

For example, he says, we have a crisis in this country that we're not having children.

We have a 1.6.

I was talking to him about that just a few days ago.

And he says, don't worry.

We're working.

We're trying to encourage that

it's neat, it's cool to have children, to have a nuclear family.

And we said, actually,

conservative men are ahead of women.

They are desperately looking for women that want to partner up and have a nuclear family and

prosper in the style of their grandparents.

And that would bring a stabilizing return to the society at large.

So I don't hear people usually talking about demography.

And he talked about social-cultural

trends, norms, changes.

that he was way ahead of his leftist counterparts.

And the idea that he really changed the dynamic of young people on campus not being afraid to come out and say they're conservative or they're traditionalist or they want to get married or they want to have kids.

And that was just contrary to what they hear every day from fellow students and faculty.

I don't think it's not going to be replaced, Jack.

I don't think I was thinking of that.

As soon as I heard the news, I said, something happens to Charlie Kirk.

Is there any person under the age of 35 who has administrative skills to make a huge multi-multi-hundred million dollars up organization?

No.

Is there anybody who can do that in addition to a daily podcast?

No.

Is there anybody who has enough energy to fly over all over the United States?

No.

Is there anybody who's not worried about being injured or attacked or he's fearless?

No.

Is there anyone he can speak

extempore without notes like that?

No.

So he combined a lot.

And then the other secret to his success was he was not a product of the university.

He didn't go to college, graduate.

So he had a natural affinity for working people and he was kind of had street smarts.

And it was a different approach and it appealed to a far greater percentage of young people than other people do.

Well, he

reminds me of my old boss,

you know,

William F.

Buckley Jr.

And later in this episode, Victor, I mentioned that I was going to be at the unveiling of Bill's stamp, a commemorative stamp.

And I was.

It was a wonderful event.

But I was talking to a few people there about Charlie Kirk and that the engaging on campus

and being open to a discussion and a debate, fearless about it, is something that Bill Buckley was.

That's what created the conservative movement, you know, is this somebody

who could could not only proselytize, but engage and be a happy warrior.

He was happy and be funny.

I watched that Gavin Newsome Charlie Kirk.

It was, they were very amicable.

Yeah.

And so

I think that may be one of the reasons he was targeted.

I really do.

I just,

when this happens like this, I just...

My blood boils when I have to then see all of this stuff.

Let's not judge people.

Let's not demonize the person had a mental problem.

Charlie was, maybe he was too,

I just have no tolerance for that anymore.

Same thing with Carlos Brown.

As soon as the mayor started talking, the governor started talking,

his mother said, well, why didn't they lock him up?

Well, good point.

You're the mother.

Why didn't you grab him by the neck and call the police?

But

there's always some rationalization for evil.

And the worst thing about the thing,

I thought of that with Charlie, and I saw that horrific video when he was hit.

I'm never going to watch it again.

I didn't know it was going to be like that.

It was horrible.

And it reminded me so much

of

the

Iranian, I'm probably pronouncing that wrong.

But when she was...

Her throat was thrashed, she looked stunned and like she was, wow, what is now happening to me as I have these last few minutes on earth, seconds.

And she just looked around and she just tried to look, and then I saw the person next to her, the black woman to her right, and the guy behind her, and they didn't care.

They just looked over, oh, wow, she got her throat cut by that guy.

He just walked by with the blood dripping.

I'm going to get out of here.

I don't want to be here.

Rather than my first impulse, even because the shooter had left, why didn't they just tear off a piece of their shirt and try to give a tourniquet or try to save her life?

But it was like, she's just dead.

That's her problem.

It was the most callous, heartless thing I've seen.

The whole thing was.

It was just...

I can't even watch.

I see that video pop up and I don't want to watch her being stabbed.

I don't want to watch her in the last moments because

it makes you...

terribly sad, but it gets you very, very angry at this country.

This country has got some deep problems.

And these these people who think that they can just constantly Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, racist, racist, racist, fascist, fascist, fascist.

We're going to do this.

We're going to do this.

I don't think they understand

that it has consequences.

Or maybe they do, that they want people to come out of the woodwork and do these things.

But

boy.

Victor,

thanks for

taking the time here that we could

get your immediate thoughts.

And now we're going to return to the program that we originally recorded on Tuesday the 9th.

Thank you, everybody, for listening.

We're back with the Victor Davis-Hanson show.

Victor, by the way, I'm dressed so aren't I pretty?

You know, for those who are watching, and there's a good reason, I have to have a prop.

Today is the day, this is the William F.

Buckley Jr.

stamp, those who are watching on YouTube and Rumble, that has been issued on Tuesday, September 9th, a commemorative stamp from the United States Post Office.

There's a ceremony in New Haven being put on by the Buckley Institute, which great program that's run out of Yale.

And

I will be attending.

Here's my boss and dear friend.

And it's good that this has finally happened.

So, all that said, Victor,

let's get your take, continuing take

on the crazy brutality and murder of,

you know, they're white women getting murdered by crazy ass

black guys with records.

Julie Schnell, I don't know if I'm pronouncing her name right, was a retired Auburn professor who was taking her dog out for a walk, was murdered the other day, yesterday, I believe, or over the weekend.

There is ongoing controversy about the Ukrainian woman who was murdered in the Charlotte light rail system and others.

Victor, your take on all this?

Well, it was very, it was pre-civilizational.

I mean, the professor at Auburn,

she was out just taking a walk, and this career criminal, young African-American man, killed her.

And then

he just left her body in a dog park where dogs, you know, defecate.

And then he stole her truck.

And

we had the situation we've talked about on the Charlotte light rail.

There wasn't even admission required.

No admission.

Anybody could get on by the honor system.

What does that mean?

That's just an invitation for homeless people to get on.

And then we have this, we talk about the mayor.

Immediately, her first reaction

was to demonize anybody who might glean from the video, which she didn't want released.

The police did it despite her, not because of her.

And the first thing she her first reactions were, I don't want anybody stereotyping homeless people or using this for, I guess, racial purposes.

And then she called it, as you said, a tragedy when it was really an act of deliberate evil.

Then

the governor, the Democratic governor, who was very vocal on, as we remember, on George Floyd, he joined the conundrum.

He didn't say a word for a few days, and then he was shamed into

deploying it.

And then we had the magistrate judge.

I don't understand North Carolina's law.

I don't know if you even need to have a legal degree to be a magistrate judge, but she was the one that gave him an alternate sentence for the latest of his 14 felonies, I guess.

And there were some suggestions, I don't know if they're proven, that she may have had an interest in the alternate sentencing center where some of the criminals before her were directed.

It's just a total systems breakdown.

And then we had Brian Selter on CNN, and his first reaction was that the MAGA mob was using this for racial purposes.

So I would ask CNN,

and remember CNN, you are notorious because during the Michael Brown shooting, all of your anchor women got up and walked out chanting hands up, don't shoot, even though we know that the witness who alleged that,

that Michael Brown said that and was shot in the back was lying.

And by the way, incidentally, last week, I think he was killed.

That witness who promulgated the hands-up, don't shoot false narrative, was killed in an urban gang shooting or something of that sort.

And so then we're

told that

by Brian Selter that the right is using this

to instill racial passions.

All I would say is this to him and to CNN and to all of the just suggest the following.

that a young beautiful black girl got on a light rail and there was a scruffy looking white guy behind her who eyed her

and then she was looking at her phone she had just come here from a foreign country minding her own business and he deliberately then jumped up and executed her with a knife and that was juxtaposed to a story where there was a very talented African-American retired professor walking

and a white person jumped out of the bushes or wherever he was hiding, killed her, and stole her truck.

And this is juxtaposed on inordinate crime by so-called white people.

You see, say in Los Angeles, a group of white thugs who drive a car through

a

jewelry store, assault an octogenarian Asian man, and then wipe out his whole collective livelihood of jewelry.

And if that had happened, and remember, that should statistically happen more because young white men, white men, white so-called people make about 33 to thir 63, excuse me, 65 to 70 percent, depending on how you define it.

So white men perhaps are 35 and white men who commit crimes are probably 15 to 40.

So you're talking about 17 or 18 percent of the population.

In the case of black men,

which make up about 6 percent of the population, and those from 15 to 40 that make up about 3 percent,

you have 3 percent that is committing about 52 to 55 percent, depending on the year, of violent crime, including violent assault, armed robbery, and murder, murder especially.

So I think the whole country would be furious and

we would be hearing from Al Sharpton and all of these people would come out of the woodwork, and Joy Reed would be doing it, and then said, We're in an epidemic of hateful crimes.

So

we can't do that because we're told that forever, forever, the

mid-19th century, I mean, the Civil War and Jim Crow in the South and institutionalized racism 60 years ago in the North, that

forbids any discussion of inordinate black crime.

Or we say correctly that most victims of black crime are blacks, and we only notice when whites, which are about nine or ten eight to ten percent of the actual crimes that black males commit are against whites, it's okay then.

Don't worry.

You don't worry unless they're white.

No, Donald Trump wants to go in to Washington and to Chicago.

I'm not sure that's wise, but he wants to go in there because of the inordinate slaughter of black men who are being killed in these gang wars.

So

I don't think it's going to change until people honestly talk about the problem.

And then when people

say something

that's racist, they're called out.

I'm not going to mention the book's title, nor I'm going to mention the author, but I'm in the process of reviewing an academic book.

And it's by a left-wing

person of color and it's got 148 pages

Jack

and

over 250 times the author mentions whiteness or blackness always whiteness in negative context and always blackness in a positive

think of the fixation the the obsessive compulsive

desire just to fixate on race on a book on the ancient world.

It's everywhere is what I'm trying.

If that happens in my small field, it's everywhere.

And it's not going to change until people

speak out and say, we have a problem.

And you can argue, as we've said on this show so many times, about the root causes or the immediate causes, but you have to talk about it.

And

black men in the inner city,

not older black men, not black women, but young black men, probably from 15, the statistics suggest 40 when the crime rate tapers off, 45, are committing an inordinate amount of crime.

About a 3% demographic

is responsible for 50% of violent crime in America.

And if you could deal with that problem, then you would basically

have your safe cities.

And how do you deal with that problem?

You talk about it.

You let the left make their argument for a more great society.

We spent $20 trillion and government has basically taken over the black family by providing enough state, local, and federal support where the bread earner is not considered necessary.

There's high rates of illegitimacy and

single-parent households that are inordinate to the demographic.

That's a national epidemic that affects every race, but in the case of the African-American community, it's more epidemic.

You can talk about all those things, but you've got to talk about it.

Because what's happening is nobody talks about it, and then it happens again and again and again.

And the left just keeps saying, pounce, you're pouncing.

And yet, we know what the left does.

They use their own,

the elite left uses their own resources, their zip codes, their money, their private security patrols, and they're not the victims.

It's always some

poor woman who's a retired professor walking her dog, or it's some impoverished Ukrainian

immigrant, or it's some poor kid that's 17 who's a football player in a stadium in Texas, and some guy gets in a fight, and the next thing he's got a knife in his heart.

It's a class thing.

And so

it's an intolerable subject.

Remember, Roland Fryer at Harvard does a study, does it again?

17, yeah.

Does it twice to make sure the information is all accurate because he knows the firestorm it will create because the facts are not what the elite want.

And

they canned them, not over it, but yes, over.

Well, I mean,

he was on an ⁇ he couldn't be hired outside of...

He had tenure, but a lot of people were interested in hiring him because he was a brilliant young economist.

He is.

And African American.

And he's pointed out that most of the statistical analyses were wrong because when you look at black male suspects who were shot in the process of apprehension and who are unarmed versus white male

suspects, there are more

numerically, there are more blacks.

But that does not mean it's an abnormal occurrence statistically because he had to factor in the number of police encounters.

And I think it was 11 million.

And if you look at the number of blacks who come in contact with police and who were shot while unarmed as suspects versus whites who are shot as unarmed suspects, given their statistical propensity to

encounter with police, then there was no statistical difference.

In fact, I think he came to the suggestion that whites who encounter policemen are more likely to be shot statistically as unarmed suspects than are blacks, given their propensity far greater demographically to be countering the police.

Yeah.

It's not the storyline.

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Victor, I want to get to an item here about Joe Biden, but first I do want to note when we talked on our

recorded show that is out today,

we were talking about ICE

capturing, arresting 300 illegals at a Hyundai plant, and the plant was in Georgia.

I said South Carolina.

My apologies, my geographical apologies

to all.

So here's a headline, Victor, from

National Review.

Biden Department of Defense spent millions collaborating with the CCP.

The story goes: the Biden administration's Department of Defense spent more than $2.5 million on sensitive, military-related research that was performed in collaboration with the Chinese Communist Party.

Now, lawmakers

warn that working relationship may have provided one of America's biggest adversaries with key information regarding U.S.

military and defense strategy.

Victor,

we're working with them to devise

viruses.

Why shouldn't we hand over the entire?

Yeah, you know what I did the other day, Jack?

I looked at three weapon systems.

China has a new tank,

brand new tank,

considered very good, and then I looked at their new stealth bomber, comparable, and then I looked at their new aircraft carrier.

Aircraft carriers are a little different, but these three weapon systems, then I juxtaposed on my computer RB-2 bomber that was active against the Iranian nuclear program, and then I looked at our Abrams tank and European tanks, and then I looked at aircraft carriers.

And you know what?

Any fool without any expertise could look at the Chinese new emerging weapon systems and see they're entirely derivative from Western models, without a doubt.

Their stealth bomber looks almost identical to ours, which begs the question:

where are they getting this expertise and why is Trump thinking of letting 600,000 Chinese students in here?

And LeBron James, he's finishing a publicity tour, and he wrote an op-ed in a Chinese newspaper praising his new outreach.

The deal that he is the recipient of is supposedly worth $1 billion.

I only say that because LeBron James was very active in Take the Knee and the BLM accusations that multi-million dollar professional basketball players were the modern equivalent of slaves and the owners were exploiting them.

This is one of the richest athletes in the history of athletics.

But why would he do that when there's one million Uaggers in forced labor camps?

And he is empowering the very government that

is really, to be honest, is practicing a form of modern slavery.

And he had been very vocal about that.

The legacy of slavery and Jim Crow demanded repertory actions in America, BLM.

Well, then, why wouldn't he extend that same concern to over a million people, not who were in slavery until 1865, but are in slavery now?

Is it just because the multi-billionaire needs another billion dollars?

It's just shocking.

And when you look at the ability, and then we mentioned the other day that Hunter Biden apparently was tipping off a member of the Chinese corporate culture who was connected to the Communist Party, Mr.

Ho, and he had hired as a private investigator an ex-Secret Service agent who had access, apparently, to classified information from the DOJ or from somebody who knew whether there was an impending indictment so that Hunter could tip off his patron.

And Hunter, the client, was receiving $1 million from Mr.

Ho.

Mr.

Ho said, I need to come to the United States.

I'm not sure I will be arrested.

Can you find out whether there's an impending plan to arrest me?

And Hunter did that.

And he's been pardoned for all crimes, known and unknown.

So,

at least up until the exit of Joe Biden.

I don't know to what degree if they bring him into Congress and they ask him about these things and he lies under oath, I don't think he's pardoned for any, which I think they should do, to see if he's still susceptible to perjury exposure.

Well, Victor, let's stay abroad before we go to the break with a little item.

I don't think it's all that little.

Of course, I dropped my papers here, but Connor McGregor, which I think most people know, they've heard the name, he's

a fighter, a boxer.

He's Irish, very proud Irish.

And I think, like a lot of Irishmen now, he's fed up with what is happening to their country, his country.

I hope enough people are getting fed up.

People in Britain getting fed up with their daughters being

permissible to rape their daughters.

Scotland, the same.

Anyway, McGregor wants to run for president of Ireland.

I have a feeling if that happens, we've seen Donald Trump get elected president of the United States.

Why couldn't Connor McGregor a disruptor?

I mean, the country needs a disruptor, and he may be the person.

You know, these people in socialist EU countries that are the reigning hierarchy, Germany has kind of outlawed any association with this populist alternative for Deutschland.

And the French government just fell.

Macron's prime minister, he's president, but his prime minister was voted out because he gave a herbstein.

If it can't go on, it will stop.

Anything that can't go on won't go on.

The deficit, I think they're up to 6%

annual deficit of GDP.

And

they have no prime minister now.

And any prime minister that suggests you've got to cut the social welfare net and you've got to address the millions of illegal aliens from the Middle East who have taken advantage of it is toxic.

But the point is, the government fell,

and there is a sizable opposition.

Neil Farage polls higher than either party right now, and in some polls.

And you're seeing the same thing all over Eastern Europe.

You've already got a conservative government in Italy.

You've got one in the Netherlands, more or less.

And you can see what the contours are.

It's the four horsemen of the Western apocalypse.

That's what it is.

That's what's happening in Europe.

That's what's happening here.

The first horseman is, whether you like it or not, the green mania, the green New Deal mania.

We're going to stop fracking.

We're going to stop horizontal drilling.

We're going to subsidize inefficient solar and wind.

We're going to outlaw this, this.

It's spiked electricity prices four times what it is in the United States, in Germany.

It's basically made Germany a shell of itself.

It's made England a shell of itself, the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution.

It's made California a shell of itself.

One quarter of all Californians do not pay their PG ⁇ E bill.

They don't do it.

That's unsustainable.

That's because we have shut down nuclear plants.

We're importing coal and oil-driven electricity from other states and countries,

fuel from the Middle East, but we won't produce it here.

And the result is that gas is $6 a gallon when I filled up last week, and you can't afford your PGE bill.

And their incentives for solar panels on your house have essentially ended.

And now you have a mini industry of putting panels on homes in California, not to generate electricity to get credit from PGE, which you don't get very much at all, but to generate your own electricity and into batteries in your garage.

so that you can during the day maybe break even and then use your electric stored batteries as your own private source during the evening.

So, my point is, we've ruined these economies, and that's fueling anger in Europe.

And then, second, we've talked about this, the fertility rate in Europe is 1.4.

Actually, it's 1.37.

And in the United States, it's 1.6-something.

So, we adopted an AOC lifestyle that said,

The nuclear family is toxic.

We don't want to reproduce.

Kids are a drag.

Professional women can only find true happiness and character development, professional development by being single and pursuing their careers.

Religion is toxic, and we're going to go down to 1.4.

And then

the gods of copybook pages, to quote Kipling, answer back, are you insane?

Any society in history that can't reproduce itself gets elderly, ossified, shrinks, and is overrun by societies that do reproduce themselves.

So that's the second thing.

We're dying.

We're deliberately committing demographic suicide.

The third

is, I guess you would call it the immigration disaster, and that is that these

societies in the utopian elite and all of the European societies and here at home most prominently during the Obama and Biden said that they felt good to let in the under, I don't don't know what you would call it, the underserved, the oppressed from third world countries to come into these affluent societies.

Really, the subtext is we want a demographic to

use and to manipulate because of our own greater infertility.

In other words, we in the blue states in the United States have about a 1.4 fertility rate and blue states are almost up to two and nobody wants our agenda, so we're going to bring in a lot of very poor people and then give them generous welfare benefits and have a captive clientele for generations.

But the problem is that

the gods of copybook headings, to quote Kipling, say, if you bring in people

and they're not diverse and they're in huge numbers and they come illegally and they come from societies that are antithetical to yours, and you, the host, do not acculturate, assimilate, or integrate them, then they're going to create hostile communities because they will come in more impoverished.

They will look at greater affluence and the left will supply them an exegesis that you're oppressed and they will be self-described

victimized.

And so what do you see in Europe?

You see millions of Middle East Muslims who have no intention of integrating, who have no intention of entering the workforce, who

I don't know what would be the word.

And you're starting to see that.

We just saw that speech by Rashida Talib where she damned her own country as racist, colonialist, horrible.

There were people in the audience that were speaking about the preference of the terrorist Hamas to their own country.

We had Representative, I think Ramirez go down to Mexico and in Spanish say that she felt closer to Guatemala than as a U.S.

representative to her adopted country, America.

We had Ilyan Omar talk about the dirt and trash in the United States and the dictatorship here was less than what she had fled from.

And we have the same problem.

And the fourth, of course, the fourth horseman is DEI and just human nature being what it is.

Anytime you tell a particular demographic

for whatever reason, if you're in the old South, I don't know, 1880 to 1940 or 56, and you tell the white population you are superior, and if you injure a black man, we're not going to report on it, and we're going to have inordinate treatment.

And if a black black person injures a white person, we're going to report it and sensational, then that gives an exemption to the white upper class, and they will take advantage of it.

But we've now flipped that paradigm with DEI.

So if you're an Indian truck driver and you can't speak English or read it, and you should have never been given a license because you're here illegally, and you kill three people

by a stupid stunt on a freeway, and you sit there, look at your camera in stone silence without a care about the people who are dying at the rear of your truck, you're not going to report it.

Or you're going to get three million people sign a petition that this is unfair, that he should be held to account.

And then you're going to see somebody like Brian Stelter say, you know, the right is using this, or Joe Biden, when one of his ultra-maga speeches say the greatest danger to all of us are white supremacists.

There was no statistical evidence for that.

Or Lloyd Austin and Mark Milley say they're going to root out white supremacists, white privilege, white rage in the ranks of the Pentagon, and they found out there was no organized white cabal as they had publicly alleged.

So when you do all that,

you empower one group and you say, whatever you do, it's going to be exempt.

And we did it before with white people in the South and also in places and enclaves in the North, and it wasn't good for the nation.

And now we're using the same Confederate media.

That's a good term for the modern media.

It It is Confederate.

It searches throughout every news story every day, and if there's a black-white story and they feel that blacks might be hurt by the reporting honestly of what happened, they will censor it, just like they did in the South about white people.

But if a black person is considered a victim of white, then it will be sensationalized in George Floyd style.

Yeah.

Or, you know, Trayvon Martin style.

With the necessary adjustments of doctoring the 9-11 tape, creating a new term for Hispanic called white Hispanic, and airbrushing the mug shot so he doesn't look so injured.

Yeah.

In the case of George Zimmer.

Well, that was terrific.

I think this is why people listen to the Victor Davis Hansen show.

And we're going to be back bringing up some new topics, including Democrats detesting capitalism.

And should New York City become Carthage or Detroit and we'll do that when we come back from these important messages.

We are back with the Victor Davis Hanson show.

So Victor had a birthday the other day.

I'm not going to talk about years or anything.

He turned 60.

Yeah, there you go.

Plus 12.

I just wanted to know that

close to a thousand people on the Victor Davis Hansen Fan Club on Facebook wished you well that day.

I really appreciate that.

Thank you.

I spent

my birthday in the ER.

Yeah.

No candles to blow out that day.

Let's talk about

polls.

So

here's a headline.

Democrats warm to socialism as Republicans stand with capitalism.

Rank and file Democrats are alarching further left and warming to socialism while increasingly dismissing capitalism as pejorative ethos to be avoided.

A poll released Tuesday details.

The revelation comes after committed socialist Zoran Mandami claimed the Democrat primary in the race of New York City mayor.

We're going to talk about that in a minute.

According to the Gallup poll, only 42% of Democrats view capitalism favorably, while 66% have a positive view of socialism.

There's much more to this story.

Victor, I'm wondering your take on:

are Democrats, are they economists who

like socialism for economic reasons, or is socialism the stand-in for hating America?

Well, both, but I have a conspiracy theory about all this.

I think that Democrats in government, in the media, in foundations, in universities who are highly influential hate capitalism.

And

if you look at the last 50 years, there's been as many Democratic presidents in Congresses as Republicans.

And so their primary mission is to socialize medicine and make it inefficient.

And I can testify the last two weeks it's inefficient.

And to zone and regulate

the ability to buy a house.

It makes it almost impossible to do it in a state like New York or Massachusetts, but especially California.

I talked to a builder not long ago, and he says he has to film every house he builds.

It's very expensive because he's afraid that something will go wrong and then he will be accused of shorting the blueprint, and then he can show that he didn't because there's a whole team of regulators and lawyers ready to sue developers.

And then in addition to that, we saw what Biden did with immigration.

So what I'm getting at is when the left i is driving the capitalist car, they try to wreck it and over-regulate it and institutionalize it and absorb it.

And then the result in these blue states that are not working, like California, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Michigan, is you can't buy a house, they're crime-ridden, you can't really afford gas or power, all over-regulated, wind and solar, da-da-da-da.

No pipelines in New York.

New York's got a lot of natural gas, leave it alone.

So then young people come up and they see this baby boomer Karen generation that came up under different auspices, and they have their 401ks and their pensions and their retirements.

And they say, well, that guy's got a nice brownstone up 94th Street.

Wow, that person's got a home in the Hamptons.

I don't have anything, but I have a Williams degree.

I graduated from Swarthmore, and

I'm a vogue assistant editor, and

this isn't fair.

And I work

in a financial firm,

as a

talent scout, and I make $100,000 a year, and I can't even afford.

And so they become socialists.

And they say, this isn't fair.

This isn't fair.

It's not because they don't like capitalism.

It's because they want what they think they should get, and that's understandable, but

they're really angry at socialism.

And nobody explains that to them.

They're angry that socialism has destroyed capitalism and California and all the major blue straits and made housing and essentials of life unaffordable.

So then a Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, or Mondami,

Tim Waltz demagogue comes in and said the capitalists did it.

No, you did it.

You did it.

And so the public really doesn't even know it, but false consciousness, maybe, if I could use Marxist terms.

They don't know it, but they're really railing about the constraints on the private sector to serve the public.

But they see it the other way.

They say these insects and capitalists are preying on us.

And that's what we've got.

There's a big class thing among the left because the architects of the New Green Deal at the highest levels and DEI are very wealthy people.

And they want to make heaven on earth and they do not care about the effects on their own people, their own leftist

comrades.

And they say, you can't get what I have because you don't have socialism.

It's like they went up to the attic, they closed the attic door, they kicked away the ladder and said, you can't get in because

you don't have socialism, even though we're up here because of capitalism, which we destroyed.

And we didn't want you to come in here because it's too crowded.

Did you see the story about the wealth of, oh my gosh, what's her name, in Illinois, the one that married her brother, the congresswoman.

Ilian Omar.

Yeah, that she's supposedly worth, I count now over $30 million.

He was kind of a shady character.

He couldn't even pay his bills.

He was being sued.

And he had some interest in a winery, and all of a sudden he marries her, and the money investment flows in there.

And the subtext of it was, anybody who's in that district in Minnesota who wants something done is going to invest lavishly lavishly in her husband's winery.

This from the socialist who hates the United States, supposedly.

Yeah, I saw it.

And it's like Elizabeth Warren.

I did read her book, by the way, on how to flip a house and make a quick profit.

That was before she became the first Native American law professor that Harvard bragged about.

Yeah, she's trying to flip a nation.

Before we get on to the next topic, Victor, which is related, I do want to recommend our listeners and viewers check out your website, The Blade of Perseus.

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Victor, one of my favorite writers, great guy, fan of the show, even Charlie Gasperino, who's the business writer for the New York Post.

He had a column the other day.

Take the nuclear option.

Let Mondami win the New York mayoral race so New York City can start over from scratch.

And here's how it begins.

As alarm bells ring over New York City's mayoral race, an odd sentiment is starting to gain traction across the business community.

Just give up.

Just sit tight and let the ill-equipped Maoist Zoran Mondami win in November.

Let him unleash his creepy, dogmatic socialist policies on the masses to teach them valuable lessons, both economic and cultural, about wokeness and progressivism, and more broadly, its stranglehold on the Democratic Party.

Let the city sink into the abyss.

Let Madame's policies force out business and prod more upper and middle-class residents to flee.

Let the city declare bankruptcy, which will happen if Madami gets his ways.

We can then start from scratch.

I'm not of the we can start from scratch school, Victor, but it may be inevitable, whether you're for it or against it.

Any thoughts on this?

Yes, but it's much easier to break things and and to fix them.

So when he says you got to hit rock bottom and you have to accelerate that, I don't think he realizes how long it's going to take.

One of the dumbest things I ever did, I just turned 18, I was a freshman at UC Santa Cruz and I wanted to major in classics.

I never had any Latin or Greek.

A lot of people had had it in prep school.

So this professor said there's an intensive Yale program for graduate students who are taking an extra extra language in Greek or Latin.

He said, I don't know if you could compete with these 27 or 8-year-old, but why don't you go to Yale?

I had never been out of California, so I had worked that previous summer.

I had about $1,000.

I bought a ticket.

I never knew anybody.

I just arrived in New Haven.

There was a wonderful man named John Madden who was the teacher, and I wrote him a nice note.

And he said, You can stay with my wife and I.

So I stayed three days, then they opened the dorms.

Next 10 weeks, I spent literally 20 hours a day studying and going to class to keep up with PhDs and Near Eastern stuff.

You know what I mean?

I did not know what the nominative case was.

I had no idea what an accusative was, and here I was with graduate students.

But my point is that

I did get very ill too with my immune.

Anyway, I went into the train from New Haven.

I walked all over the worst parts of New Haven.

I didn't know anything about it.

And then I took one weekend, I said, I can't take this anymore.

I'm going to take a train to Times Square, 1971.

I have never seen anything like 1971.

There was trash all over the street.

People came up and grabbed you.

It was a nightmare.

And then I walked, unfortunately, somebody said you can go up to the Upper West Side.

So I walked all the way up there and I ended up in Harlem, but in Central Park.

It was the scariest, and it started to get dark, so then I kind of jogged back to Grand Central Station.

I went back to New Haven.

But that was 71.

What year do you think Rudy Giuliani was able to turn it around as a

New Yorker at that time?

Yeah, the 90s.

90s.

So it was 20 years.

Late 80s, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But and then it took time to turn it around onto it.

So that was a time we were getting the

Charles Bronson death wish and escape from New York, falling down.

So when he says that, he should know that

he's talking about 20 years it's going to take if Mondami completes the destruction of New York City.

I just have to add, Victor, though, because

California is experiencing the same thing now.

People who leave are at the time, there were still neighborhoods who were there of people who had to be in New York City who fought back.

And of course, lots of people got out of Dodge.

But who's going to be left to fight back?

The same thing in California.

The middle class is leaving.

Who's going to be left to care enough for that?

All these places that were.

When I grew up in California, anything south of Fresno was rock-hard conservative.

That's,

I mean, once in a while, Los Angeles elected a right-wing Democrat like Sam Yorty, but that's the L.A.

area gave us Reagan.

It gave us George Duke Mason as governor, it gave us Pete Wilson, even gave us Arnold Schwarzenegger.

That's all over with.

Now it's all Bay Area tech money, but even where I am, we always elected conservative Republican congressmen, assemblymen, and it just doesn't exist.

And the reason it doesn't exist is they imported a whole group of demographic, mostly originally illegal, and then about 10 to 15 million people fled California in the last 30 years.

And so

it's never going to be a purple state in my lifetime, if ever.

And so, yeah, and the same thing is happening in New York.

So I don't,

I'm not too optimistic that

that recipe works for anybody, that you just let it go.

You have to fight with the tools you have now.

There was a poll that said if Eric Adams got out and Mr.

Silwa got out, it would be 48-44.

It would be a very close race.

And I think if that could happen, as much as I despise what Andrew Cuomo did during COVID,

he would be better than the alternative.

And by the way, did you see as a former Queen's resident that there was an elderly couple that was burned in their home, murdered just recently?

And they're looking for a suspect that fits the demographic I talked about.

Yeah, and it's it's so

that's going to become more and more common in New York.

And I hate to see

I don't know, I just think that you've got to fight, fight, fight.

Yeah, you do.

But people had to, back to Giuliani, I mean, people had to live in New York.

I mean, the finance industry, journalism, even fashion, it was some...

Bandwidth hadn't been invented yet.

And bandwidth was.

And he barely won, didn't he?

His first race.

He just squeaked.

He actually lost his, he lost his first race to

David

Dinkins.

Yeah.

And then he won twice.

And then the farmer Bloomberg.

Yeah.

You just drop a seed in, it doesn't take any talent.

You just drop it in and bang, it sprouts.

He won three elections.

So New York had 20 years of relative sanity.

But yeah,

I agree with you, Victor.

Picking up the pieces.

I love Charlie.

Charlie's, you know, he's reflecting what the business community is.

I understand what he's saying.

Yeah.

So, hey, we're going to come back from this break and talk about a we've

read from a parent before who's got a transgender kid, and it's an interesting take on things.

As we know, two or three weeks ago, this maniac shot up and murdered Catholic school children in in Minnesota.

So we're going to talk about that and maybe if we have time, possibly something about Denmark banning the Burka, but we'll see.

Anyway, we'll do that when we come back from these final messages.

We are back with the Victor Davis Hanson Show.

So Victor, a few months ago, a dad of a transgender kid wrote us, and he wrote again about what it's like to be the parent of a transgender kid.

And he did that in the light of the Minnesota shooting.

So, if you don't mind, it's going to take a minute or two, but

I think it's rather important.

He says, Hello, Jack, if I can add some perspective regarding the trans shooting, the typical pharmaceutical progression for a trans person is cross-sex hormones, native hormone suppression, and then mood

stabilizers, aka SSRIs.

I think the real culprit is the SSRIs, and most physicians aren't quite sure why or how they work, only that they seem to affect the patient.

However, the physician monitoring the patient often switches the patient to a different SSRI if the patient claims the existing one is not working.

Due to HIPAA laws, the dose and the type of SSRI is never disclosed to outsiders.

I firmly believe trans people fall into a trap.

And once there, are medicated to the gills and to the point that the person becomes nearly unrecognizable.

In the case of my own child, he once called to berate me about my concerns for his well-being.

The person I was talking to was obviously him,

but it was as if I was talking to a complete stranger.

His intonation, cadence, and tone was like nothing I had ever heard come out of him.

It was disturbing, frightening, and ultimately heartbreaking.

I firmly believe the combination of cross-sex hormones and SSRIs lead to unpredictable behavior if measured against pre-drug behavior.

And unfortunately, the trans community, which is a classic cult, promotes violence and is fiercely anti-Catholic.

It's almost over here.

The general public is extremely misinformed about the confluence of social media, the psychiatric community, and the trans cult.

All of these pieces plug in, plug out, plug back in at various intervals, and the SSR variants are highly addictive and amplify both the social media influence and the cult influence victor i just want to add that this great dad was not writing as an excuse for the shooter in minnesota but more an indictment of pump them up with drugs community and also as he says at the end this uh the cult this is a cult anyway victor i thought

if we had this conversation let's just pick an arbitrary year 2008 not very long ago

and we were talking to people of the left Democratic legislators, media people, academics, and you said, what do you think about selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors?

You know, Crozac, et cetera, Eloville, all that.

We've got to be very careful with those, especially with young people.

I don't like the idea of giving powerful drugs.

Big pharma is making a killing off that, and we've got to find natural ways of letting people adjust without going into misunderstood brain chemistry and altering it in ways we have no idea of the ultimate effect.

And then if you had said, what do you believe about testosterone injection?

Oh, got to be very careful, that creates violence and that's roid rage.

We all know what it's done to

people in the weightlifting industry, athletes.

It damages heart valves.

It's very dangerous.

It can change the musculoskeletal appearance.

What do you think about estrogen?

Well, we know that there are some studies that it can enhance breast cancer and postmenum.

These are all very dangerous.

And then all of a sudden, this cause celeb came and said, no, anybody who says that, they're a bigot.

We're just going to throw out all of that medical knowledge and research and our past advocacy against powerful drugs that have been used too indiscriminately and frequently.

And so that's the problem I was talking about with the fourth horseman of the apocalypse.

Once you have a DEI regimen and you say you're going to take particular groups and label label them oppressed or victimized, and then they're going to be exempt from accountability, then they're going to react to that exemption.

It's like Hunter Biden in the individual case.

If you tell Hunter Biden that no one's going to arrest him for lying about a gun or throwing it in a dumpster or leaving your crackpipe in a rented car, or taking pictures of yourself naked using drugs with prostitutes, or shaking down foreign governments all over the world to enrich your family.

If you tell him all that and not paying your taxes, then he's going to do more of it.

He's going to do more of it.

And because he knows he's exempt.

And when I say DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, I'm not just saying that's the only exemption.

Very wealthy, privileged people like the Bidens had a veritable DEI exemption.

You can't touch us, you can't question us.

Joe Biden, you can't question me.

And,

you know, that's why he part he did one thing.

He did not use that auto pin.

He knew that the people were doing it with the auto pin for his benefit.

They were swarming the the system to clog up as many pardons as they could so his individual pardons, they could just say, well, he it wasn't the Biden family.

He just pardoned anybody.

Might have been a little overdid it.

Might have mussed up some people's hair, but, you know.

But he signed those personally, and he did it because he knew what they had done.

And he knew that they got away with it because of their political privilege and their money and their contacts and all of that.

But whenever you do that in a society, then you're going to get more of it.

More and more, more.

It's not good for human nature to tell somebody that whatever you do, we're going to find an excuse to exempt you from consequences or rationalize your antisocial or criminal behavior.

Well, Victor, I have one last item.

By the way,

on the Autopen, Dan McCarthy, who's the editor of Modern Age, has a great piece out on, it's in New York Post, a great column on that.

I recommend people check that out.

Not going to talk about Burkers.

I'm going to talk about Tim Waltz.

And I think it sort of hooks into a little bit what you were just talking about, privilege and exemption.

ICE arrests Kenyan

sex offender who had a cushy job in Tim Waltz's Minnesota government.

A Kenyan national with a sex offense on his record, was arrested by ICE.

His name is Wilson Tyndall of Plymouth, Minnesota.

He was nabbed by ICE according to a Monday report.

A decade ago, Tyndall pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a woman after breaking into her Twin Cities home.

He spent 18 months in ICE

custody at the time, but a judge ruled that he should not be deported.

After his release, he was employed by two different Minnesota state agencies.

I mean, this is so he is he the top civil servant in Minnesota?

Can you say in this

particular agency, I think he was.

Okay, he might have been.

So I guess if you were up for that.

Even if he was the janitor, he shouldn't have been there.

If you were up for that job and they were interviewing against this person, they would say to you, well, you're up against a very, very competitive candidate.

Can you?

We'd like to know if you have similar advantages.

Now, first of all, have you ever committed a felony and been in jail?

No, I haven't.

Well, that's too bad.

That's a mark.

Are you an illegal alien?

No, I'm not.

I'm legal.

I was born.

Oh, well, you're not an illegal alien and you're not a felon.

Are you...

I don't know the race of this person.

Was he black?

I think he was.

He was from Kenya, but you could be white from Kenya.

Yes, I think he was black, though.

So then he would say, are you black?

No.

So you're not black.

You're not a felon, and you're not an illegal alien.

Why would we hire you?

That's really the logic if you think about it, right?

So you hire a felon that's here illegally from Kenya, and you have all these qualified people that must have applied for that job, but they were shunned because they didn't have the three requisites that the state of Tim Waltz requires, right?

I guess.

How else can you explain it?

At some point, didn't somebody say he's a foreign national and he shouldn't be eligible for diversity, equity, and inclusion because he's not a U.S.

citizen, and he's a former felon, a convicted felon.

I guess they knew that, but they thought those were advantages.

Diverse.

They're diverse, I suppose.

I don't know how many, where I work, we don't hire felons.

We don't hire people who are here illegally.

Well, and also on the hiring of foreign nationals, I think the criteria must be, there must be state-by-state differences, but

why should we not hire an American over you?

So a special case has to be made.

And it can be made in certain cases.

That gets to this weird...

I mentioned it before.

We have this very strange tick in America that if you set foot in the United States with no knowledge of our customs, traditions, lifestyles, but if you set foot in the United States and you are non-white, you are eligible under DEI auspices for preferential treatment or exemptions on the basis that you've suffered historic prejudice, even though you never have.

And so

that came when I was a professor at California State University, well before Trump has readdressed this issue, which is, I think it's a federal law, but it was ignored by a lot of states, that you cannot give in-state tuition discounts for illegal aliens who are residing in your state illegally while you are charging them one-third of the cost of a college education than you are charging U.S.

citizens just a few miles across your state border.

And I saw it all the time.

I could not believe it.

I'd get all these students, they'd come up to me and they'd say,

you know, it's 800 bucks for tuition for the year, but I got to pay $2,400.

I can't afford it.

And you got all these students that tell me that they're here illegally and they're only paying $800.

And I mentioned it in Mexico.

I got really blasted by it.

I'm trying to remember

the famous conservative got really angry.

He reviewed that book.

You know, the Broken Windows guy, the co-author?

Not Charles Murray or

James Q.

Wilson.

Yes, James Queen.

James Q.

Wilson Wilson.

He wrote a devastating review of Mexico and commentary.

And he said, I was parochial, I was a restrictionist, and illegal immigration was basically really good.

He was a libertarian.

And I saw him.

I felt bad because I saw him later, and he had lymphoma.

And I walked up to him, and he turned away.

I said, you know, I'm not mad that you did that.

I don't think you're right, but I don't hold a grudge.

And then he was very friendly.

And then I saw him once at Pepperdine when I was a visitor years ago, and he was very friendly to me.

But that just shows you that when I wrote that book in 2002 and 3,

it was, gosh, people got angry about that because I said that this is not sustainable illegal immigration.

By the way, speaking of Pepperdine, Pepperdine has a nice little peace garden, or it's a garden, and it's named for Tom Burnett, who was a graduate there.

And Tom was one of the

handful of guys on Flight 93

who fought back and I guess saved, not saved something.

I think that plane was supposed to be destined for the United States Capitol.

So a true American hero.

And today is

9-11 and we should remember Tom.

It was.

It's a wonderful, I think it's the School of Public Policy.

It's up on the hill.

I go there when I have visited there.

I always go out there.

And I think

the late James Wilburn, the founder of the School of Public Policy, wonderful person,

was partly involved, or

major, he was a major involvement.

And then, of course,

our friend, the wonderful successive dean, Pete Peterson, has really kept it up and really empowered the school as well.

It's another institution like Hillsdale that people who are listening should support, the School of Public Policy at Pepperdine.

It's an island atoll in a sea of madness in Los Angeles.

Pete Peterson is a member of the board of the Center for Civil Society.

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One comment here from

a YouTube comment from Tim Chapman5567, who writes,

We here in Australia are suffering social disintegration and economic decline under the Islamo-Marxist federal government, but we do not have a Trump or Farage figure to counter it.

As the VDH's reminder that hard Marxists are only interested in gaining and holding power, the motive for organizing uncontrolled high immigration is to acquire new left-leaning voters dependent on government largesse.

Tim, we feel your pain.

Thanks for you for sending in your comments.

We try to read them all.

There are many

and many, most of them are very kind.

A few aren't, but it's like I have really appreciated.

I had a lot of

on my birthday letters from my house and that came here and I appreciate everything and emails.

I just can't

respond to everyone.

I got about three or four hundred emails that I haven't opened and maybe

as many letters and stuff at work and home.

But I really appreciate it.

I do.

Well, thanks, Victor, for all the wisdom you shared.

Thanks, folks, for listening and for watching.

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