A Conservative Schism? And the Battle of Crete, 1941

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This is our Saturday edition in which we do something a little bit different in the middle segment, and that is Victor usually looks at a historical topic.

And today, he's going to look at the battle for Crete in World War II.

So stay with us for that.

We'll start off with some new stories.

We have a Charlie Kirk resolution that was passed by both houses today, so we would like to go ahead and have a look at those first.

Stay with us, and we'll be right back after these messages.

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Victor, Charlie Kirk, his birthday, October 14th, will be a National Day of Remembrance.

And the House just passed that resolution today, and I was wondering your thoughts on that.

Yeah, they had a number of resolutions

commemorating various people recently.

That wasn't as controversial

as the one

asking to memorialize his legacy and life.

That's the one that AOC said, I'm not going to put my impromator on his life.

He was a racist.

And then Ilyan Olmar said every day of his life he was a racist.

Jasmine Crockett said only two Caucasians voted for this.

I was really I mean voted against it.

I was really upset.

She's not mentioning that the minority vote in the United States is about 20%

Hispanic and black, and and about 85 or 90% voted to reject that.

So if she's talking about racial disproportionality, she should look in the mirror.

She used the word

Caucasians, it's kind of like Negro, you know, it's an ossified word.

But

that resolution was strange because she said only two so-called Caucasians voted for it, but she's just looking at the people who actually voted against it.

But if you look at the 118 people who didn't vote for it, it was because some of them are in purple districts.

So they voted present, i.e.

I abstain, or they didn't show up to vote.

And that was a larger margin than the 55 or something that said no.

So the key point is a majority of the Democratic Party in the House, majority, voted not to recognize Charlie

Kirk.

They did not.

And it wasn't just the 55 that voted no.

The others, which were in greater numbers, voted no by saying present or not showing up.

And Jasmine, they were more than two so-called Caucasian, so don't play the race card ad nauseum.

And I guess the idea was that,

as I said earlier, they're into narrative seven.

Narrative seven is their final one.

We don't really care what you say.

We say he's a racist.

We don't want to see any evidence.

We don't quote any evidence.

We don't have any long text that says that shows he was a racist.

We just don't like him.

And we're not going to pretend otherwise.

And we're going to oppose everything about him.

That's the Democratic Party's attitude.

Yeah.

Well, I the second topic I wanted to talk about, and

it's peripherally to do with Charlie Kirk, but it was at his memorial service.

Tucker gave a speech.

I listened to the whole six minute and five seconds, and it was mostly about

repentance for being a sinner and redemption.

And so it was more or less innocuous, but there's all sorts of static out there on the right that doesn't like what Tucker's current position is doing.

So there were suggestions that somehow it was anti-Semitic, etc.

And I'm not so worried about his speech because I thought it was very appropriate to what was going on at the memorial, so I thought he did a good job.

But I think, in general, Tucker is getting a lot of static from the right, and I was wondering if you could talk about that.

Well, I know, Tucker.

I always try to introduce any comment when I'm asked about him.

That

for a number of years, he was gracious enough to have me on A-Block right after his commentary, so I owe him a great deal of gratitude.

And I like him.

But the

Pat Buchanan position of the mega spectrum

is now Pat Buchanan has got a lot

who ran against George H.W.

Bush for president, I think, in 92.

And you know,

he had a he wrote the book

A Republic, Not an Empire.

And he wrote a very

controversial book about World War II.

If you're interested, I did a long critique of it with Christopher Hitchens on Peter Robinson's On Common Knowledge years ago.

But

basically, I watched that speech too,

and he was comparing spiritual leaders who go against the establishment, and the establishment doesn't know what to do about them until somebody peeps up and says, kill him.

Now, he didn't mean that there was a room of Democrats and pro-trans people, but

he was trying to say he incurred the same hatred for his nonviolent message that Jesus Christ did.

So far as you say, so good.

But then he said

it was as if in a candle-lit room there were a group of elders or a group of people and they were eating hummus.

And people then interpreted that as a logical allusion to the Pharisees, the elder

hierarchy of the Jewish faith at the time Jesus was killed.

So they said he is a false.

The implication was these were people

that didn't want Jesus saying what Charlie Kirk was saying.

They were the establishment and so they ordered him to be killed.

The only I think problem why some people objected was

yes, technically they didn't intervene and they were happy that Pontius Pilate had him executed, but he was actually executed by the Romans.

So that analogy they felt was strained and they felt that it was strained because Tucker was trying to bring in

people of the Orthodox Jewish faith in antiquity to be

the ancient libel, they were Christ killers.

That was the kind of illusion, which I don't, you know, it was so innovative, as you said, and vague.

The larger question is,

when,

if you look at a number of things that Tucker has done,

he went to Russia and he went to a supermarket in Moscow and he basically the theme of that was we deprecate the Russians, but if you look at what they're doing, they're doing okay.

This supermarket is clean, it's got a lot of stuff, and they are not

nihilists, they're not ashamed of their, I guess, Christianity or their whiteness, they're not a diverse people.

So that was something that raised red flags.

And then

he went over to Bethlehem.

This was a very controversial move because once the West Bank was turned over to the Palestinian Authority, they went into Bethlehem, which was a tourist bonanza, and it had been really packed under Israeli control.

Free people wanted to come in, they were safe, and they began harassing Christians.

And Christian Palestinians have left en masse Bethlehem, and it sort of died economically because of their absence.

But Tucker went over and talked to a Palestinian Christian who, to stay there, had exemptions from the Palestinian Authority, i.e.

the suggestion he was sort of like a Vichy Frenchman or something.

And he said on

record that Israel drove out all the Christians in their antique, and that's not true.

Then he had Darrell Cooper on, who said, he said was the most well-known World War II historian.

He's never written a book on his, he's just written a book on the internet, I think it's on Twitter, and he said some outrageous things that were demonstrably untrue.

Winston Churchill was a terrorist.

They bombed the Black Forest and killed a bunch of civilians deliberately.

That was a very complicated operation.

It wasn't aimed at civilians.

It was aimed at storage depots for the invasion of France by the Nazis.

Anyway, that person that he had on was not a recognized authority on World War II.

And what he said about the German army going into Ukraine and being ill-equipped to handle two million prisoners and therefore they died out of ineptness rather than premeditated agendas, that was false.

They had something called the Hunger Plan written down as a doctrine, the German army did, and

the idea of killing commissars, killing Jews, and shipping food and starving Ukraine was pre-planned.

And then he had David Collum accepted.

So the question is,

what is he doing?

And I think he's reviving the Buchanan, America First Isolationism.

And the MAGA people, I think what Tucker wants to do is he wants people to go on record, to either say, I agree with the Buchanan

neo-isolationist and America First, or I'm more like Trump.

This is a war for Trump and MAGA.

And he's saying that Trump, he's trying to bring Trump over to this.

And what would that mean?

It would mean, ah, Ukraine, let it go.

You know, I'm not going to get involved

with taking out that nuclear facility for Israel.

It's not even a a Jacksonian

foreign policy.

It's a Buchanan, Pat Buchanan.

And so there's a lot of tension in the MAGA ranks because he's very close.

Tucker's very close to J.D.

Vance.

I think his son works for him.

He's very close to Don Jr.

He's got the ear of Trump.

And Trump is, the thing about Trump is Trump doesn't say,

I'm going with him or him

or them or them.

He just lets them fight it out in the arena and see which side wins, you know, which has a more applicable strategy.

Not that he doesn't have his own views, but the fact that he said that he's going to support NATO and the fact that he took out the Ukrainian nuclear program and the fact that

he hit the Houthis shows you that he's not a neo-isolationist.

Well, since you brought us all the way over to the Middle East and Gaza, there's a short story, and I'm not sure if there's too much to say about this, but I feel like we should point out that the Washington Free Beacon had a story on food aid to Gazans,

and there is a Gaza humanitarian foundation that's run by Israelis and the United States, and they are having more success of getting food to Gazans, who are in, obviously, war zone areas, than even the UN is, who more often than not gets hijacked by Hamas, and then, of course, Hamas does not use the food to aid innocent people as well as the Israelis in the US.

So another story about humanitarian aid coming from the U.S.

and Israel.

I thought that was a good story.

The Free Palestine Movement's not interested in that.

They don't care about the people of Gaza.

They don't care what their caloric intake is every day.

They're pro-Hamas.

So

we know that Al Jazeera reporters that cover the news are Hamas people.

And we know people who work for the UN were not only in Hamas, but they were involved in some cases on October 7th, killing people while they were UN employees.

So the UN sends the food in.

Hamas wants to control it.

So they send their thugs out and they beat up people and they swarm the trucks and steal all the food.

Then they take it to their subterranean distribution points and either sell it or they give it under the auspices that support Hamas.

Israel wants to get rid of Hamas.

So what they're doing is

they come in with more food

and better food supplied by the United States for the most part, but also Israel.

And then they provide security and they allow mostly women to represent families, not just a bunch of men to fight each other.

And so, and they make it very orderly.

And they are much more successful in getting the food to the people.

The UN doesn't care.

Their attitude is, well, you just throw a bunch of food out there and there's so much food, the price will go down anyway.

And so what if Hamas sells it?

That's their attitude.

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So, Victor, let's then turn to

California and the $2.2 billion solar plant in California's Mojave Desert.

It was called the Ivan Paw Solar Power Facility that was just turned off.

$2.2 billion is what I did say to everybody.

Well, it was the golden age of Obama

wind and solar subsidies.

So all these cronies,

as we saw in the case of USA, wanted to jump in with new solar wind technologies that had no proven profitable ability.

So they all were in need of subsidies.

So this one was weird.

I think it's the one where they had a series of reflective mirrors, and they took the sun and they reflected it on a particular target of water to create enormous temperatures and then steam.

And of course they had

wildlife that got in between the mirror reflection and the object.

So it was not good to the environment, but it never worked.

And it it then

blew up two billion dollars.

And so when you collate that with a billion or two not too far away, well, right at Moss Landing, the battery plants, so this was superseded by

photovoltaic cells.

So you have everybody in the first stage that's

producing electricity on their homes.

And then PG ⁇ E kind of reneged on the next deal and said, we're not going to give you as much

compensation.

Then the third, we're not going to give you much at all because

people were basically either making a profit or not having to pay their power bill.

And PG ⁇ E says you're not contributing to the overhead maintenance of the power lines.

So for all practical purposes, the idea that you put new owners, because they can't reneg on the contracts that are in existence, but new owners put solar panels, they do it for one reason.

They put batteries.

And then they generate their own electricity.

They use batteries for the evening.

And during the day, when the batteries are charged, any excess goes to PG ⁇ E.

And it mitigates what they use from PG ⁇ E when they're low on the batteries.

That's what the future was.

And so then the idea that the state was going to build big battery storages in Moss Landing, the old power was kind of bogus, and they blew up.

They had two fires.

I think it's a

billion-dollar white elephant.

Then we had another one.

Remember, Joe Biden and Obama came for Solyndra in Silicon Valley.

We were going to make state-of-the-art

solar panels.

Didn't work.

They weren't very good.

They weren't cost-competitive.

So when you look at Solyndra and the Desert Project and Moss Landing,

you're talking about about burning up $5 billion

for nothing.

And if you ask yourself, what would $5 billion have done?

Well, it would have fixed a lot of the freeways in California, maybe 101 or I-5, or

you could have encouraged natural gas production and

more leases.

You could have done a lot of things.

If you want to subsidize somebody, tell them if you take a risk and try to drill a natural gas well.

But

they got everything.

My point is they got everything they wanted.

Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom

over the last

14 years, they went full green, so did Arnold Schwarzenegger.

They got their subsidies, they got their new technologies, and gas is the highest it's ever been in real dollars.

Natural gas is the highest it's ever been, your power bill is the highest it's ever been.

They haven't built a new nuclear plant, they haven't built a new hydroelectric plant.

If they're going to blow up, build a dam, instead of they get money from the taxpayers to build dams, they use them to blow them up.

So,

this has been the worst.

Jerry Brown's eight years, followed by Gavin Newsom's six years.

It's the worst 14 years in our history of the state.

It's suicidal nihilism.

It's trying to dismantle

modernity.

to destroy a modern idea of California and bring it back to some 19th century romantic idea of, you know,

the San Joaquin rushing to the ocean as if there's nobody living here it needs water or agriculture or power or flood control

and they may get their wish because we're losing 300,000 people net population per year people are leaving and so maybe that was what they wanted to make it so unlivable and expensive we'll get down to we'll go from forty one million down to, I don't know, thirty million.

Then they'll get their their wish.

They'll just make it a bunch of wealthy people who get tech money, and then they live in a la-la land of green.

Well, let's turn to another favorite issue for the left, and that is the pro-Palestinian contingency, not just in the U.S., but in Europe.

And I think that you and

Jack talked about this, that England, Canada, Australia, France, those are the ones I can think of, we're going to recognize a Palestinian state.

Well, Georgia Maloney in Italy did not recognize a Palestinian state, and she had riots.

So riots have broken out in Italy because she refused to sign on.

And so I guess England and France are saying that's what we don't want to have.

What do you think?

Well, I have a question.

Prior to October 7th, there wasn't any

Israeli inside Gaza.

It was all Palestinian.

Now,

they spent in foreign money and American money and UN money, several billion dollars, to make an underground city of tunnels for war purposes.

They had one election in 2006,

one time, and they elected a thuggish Hamas, and then they canceled all elections.

They killed the opposition or drove them out.

So maybe a Palestinian, they're talking about the West Bank and Gaza.

Are they asking the Palestinian Authority to take it over?

If they are, they're going to have a civil war.

So my point is,

when the Israelis left, they gave them a $50 million lucrative hothouse industry to export winter vegetables.

Some American financiers very magnanimously funded that.

The first thing they did when the the Israelis left, they tore it out.

They looted it.

They stole all the infrastructure.

They destroyed it.

And then they voted in Hamas,

who then killed a lot of the Palestinian people and created

an Islamic dictatorship.

And then

they

started in with the Intifadas.

and da-da-da and then they started building their labyrinth and it was all culminating in October.

So my point is this:

you have your autonomous state, you're getting billions of dollars in foreign aid, somebody set up international elections for you, you have all of the ingredients of making a successful Dubai or Saudi or Kuwait, just go to it.

There was nobody stopping you, but that's not what they wanted.

They wanted from the river to the sea.

So, they turned that into a

militaristic front-line battle state, just just like the West Bank under Arafat trying to kill Jews.

And they can't do it.

And so, you know, I got so frustrated, I mentioned that to our audience, walking from my apartment to my office on the Stanford campus in 2023 and early 24, and being confronted by these occupants of Free Palestine.

for Hamas.

And they would come up to you and they want to engage you, but not like Charlie Kirk.

They wanted to yell at you.

So

once in a while you would waste two or three minutes.

You'd just say, well, why don't you have your state?

And they say, what do you mean?

I said, well, you have the West Bank and you have

Gaza.

Why don't you go over to the Israelis and say,

now that you're out of Gaza,

Give us 10 years, keep giving us water and power, which they do.

And they do it all to the West Bank, too.

And we will go go through a three-step plan to be like Jordan and Egypt.

And they would say, river to the sea.

And you'd say, river to the sea.

So you really, really think you're going to go to the Jordan River, and you and this ragtag bunch of killers on October 7th are going to kill 11 million Jews.

and repeat the Holocaust twice over and destroy this civilization that has given us everything from drip hoses to sophisticated anti-ballistic missile systems.

You're going to destroy all those people.

There's no way in blank-blank you're going to do that.

There's not going to be a second Holocaust.

And you can't do that because you don't have the wherewithal to fight them, even though there's 500 million of you.

You cannot do that.

But that's their agenda.

That's why they don't create a Dubai or a Kuwait in the land that they control.

Because to do so will mean they can't destroy Israel.

And then these totalitarian governments all around, strong men say, oh, we're for the Palestinians.

We're for getting their land back.

We just don't want them to live in our country because they always cause trouble.

But all you poor people, Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians, Iraqis, we're all for the Palestinians.

So don't complain that you don't have affordable housing or good health care because we're for the Palestinian.

That's what

these dictators do.

They use them as a club.

And

it's been my whole life.

I remember 1967,

I was 14, and I had the Fresno Bee, and it was June 4th.

And I had my aunt's husband, my uncle.

He was farming.

So we, Vernon, I called him, Uncle Vernon.

So I had the Fresno B, and they had a picture right at the eve of the Six-Day War, and they had a tank for how many tanks Israel has, and a plane for how many Israel.

and a man for how many soldiers.

And they were each representing, I think, a hundred thousand soldiers or a thousand tanks.

And they would put the little symbols in this little tiny Israel.

And then they said, then they had the symbols in Egypt,

and then they had the symbols in Jordan, then they had the symbols in Syria, then they had the symbols in Iraq.

And I said, I was 14 years old.

So I said, well, Uncle Vernon, they're going to wipe them out.

Look at all these tanks.

Look at all these men.

Look at all these planes.

They're going to have a war.

I said, yes, they're going to have a war.

And I said, so they're going to destroy them.

He said, no.

I said, well, how can they fight?

They have

All the map has all their stuff on it.

It's like chess pieces.

And these guys don't have anything.

He said, they're smart.

They know what they're doing.

They will win.

And I said, well, they don't have a chance.

So I went home to my parents.

I said, the Israelis are going to lose.

And my dad goes, they're going to win.

And then my mom goes, they should win.

And they did.

How do you think your parents and your uncle knew that?

Well, my dad was a World War II guy, and my uncle was in World War II.

So they'd been reading about it in

Israel.

It wasn't because they had a great knowledge of Judaism, because of all my life, I did not meet anybody Jewish my age, till I went to UC Santa Cruz, and there were these three guys, and somebody told me they're a bunch of Jews, watch out.

They said that he's another person of minority status.

And he was the dorm,

what was it, resident assistant RA.

And he said, don't buy drugs from them because they'll rip you off because they're Jews.

So I really said this, what's Jews?

I knew what Jews were, but I'd never seen a Jewish young person.

My mother had one family in Fresno that she was very close to that were Jewish.

And then the guy who sold my aunt and my grandmother hearing aids would come out once every six months.

And Lila, who was crippled and living in the, she lived her whole life in the house that I'm living in, she'd call me up and goes, 20,

and she called me 20, could you ride the wheel down?

There was a very nice man who's going to show us the latest, mom and I, mom, she was 45 and my grandmother was 75.

She's going to show us the latest model hearing aid.

Those were like transistor radios with a dial on them and the headphones with wires.

And she said he has a tattoo, and he'll tell us a story about being an Auschwitz.

So I would go down and I'd ride my bike and this guy, I think his name was Rosenblum or something, and he was an itinerant hearing aid.

He was really smart.

So he would sell Island, Georgia, the latest upgrade.

And

then my aunt would go,

Well, did you see the ovens?

Well, I saw the ovens.

Of course I did.

And then he would talk for three or four hours, and my grandmother would make little cakes and coffee.

That was the only Jewish

interaction you had.

I had never had a Jewish lawyer friend.

So when I got to Santa Cruz, there must have been 10 or 20 percent of the, I didn't know what Jews were.

But they were all pro-Israel.

That's what that was what was strange.

And I've always been pro-Israel.

And I've had so many people come up to me, you're a Zionist.

You're just

you know, you can't talk.

You're just pro-Israel.

No, I'm not.

It was all empirical.

I didn't have any Jewish friend.

There was not,

let me be very careful, out of 250 people who graduated from my class, I don't think there was one Jewish student.

We had a lot of Armenian students, a lot of Japanese students, a lot of Chinese students, a lot of Indian students, a lot, the majority were Mexican-American students.

We had a lot of black students, not one Jewish student.

I guess I was just surprised that your parents and your uncle would know the capability of Israel, the state, in their military capability.

I mean, today we've had all those wars, so anybody who has even the slightest knowledge of the wars that were fought in the Middle East knows Israel is super capable of the people.

Well, they had known the 47 War, where they had nothing and they won.

They were surrounded.

They were using, you know.

P-51 Mustangs and Sherm tanks, and they were surrounded by people with the latest state-of-the-art Russian.

And then the 56 Suez, I mean, it was a disaster strategically, but they were very adept tactically.

And then this was the 67-day war.

All right, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and hear a little bit about Crete in World War II.

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And Victor, so I'm excited to hear about Crete in World War II.

I know we talk about it peripherally in the discussion of World War II, but the Nazis invaded it, and they fought back pretty hard against that.

So I'm anxious to hear about this.

Germany invaded its partner,

the Soviet Union, on June 22nd, 1941, with the largest invasion in history, three and a half million people on a 170-1800-mile front.

So the question is, what were they doing on May 20th

to June 1st in Crete?

Look at the Mediterranean.

If you want to supply

Rommel, it would be better to supply them via Malta.

Greece is way to the east.

It's very hard to get rail service into Greece from Europe as compared to Italy, for example, through Sicily.

So why were they there?

They were there because

Hitler had a directive that he did not want any

peripheral

theaters opening up that would detract from the main thrust into Russia.

And lo and behold, the Yugoslavian underground overthrew the government in the spring.

So he had to go into Yugoslavia and restore a fascist.

Once he was in Yugoslavia,

Mussolini, who had declared war belatedly on the Axis, was angry that he wasn't getting his share.

He didn't know anything about going into Russia.

But he had invaded in

October Greece, and he had taken Albania, and he was in a mess, October of 1940.

So Hitler then said, okay,

I've got a mess on my hands.

I've got Rommel

with only two or three divisions.

I've got a supply in North Africa.

I've got troops now in Yugoslavia.

Mussolini has screwed things up.

I've got to go bail him out in Greece.

And I am diverting men and materiel from the planned build-up to go into Russia.

So he took Greece.

And it was pretty much declared secure in May.

But a lot of the British got out of Greece and about 30,000 got to Crete, and they still had Egypt.

And Cairo and Alexandria were there under British control.

So what happened was

Hitler came up with the idea, we just have to close down the theater.

So we've got Greece, we'll go halfway across the Mediterranean and take Crete and make air bases there and therefore Rommel

will be in Egypt basically.

He'll be at the end of the Libyan border and we can just stop anything from happening that would interfere with Army groups south.

Okay.

The problem was that they had never really done a parachute drop so they didn't have maritime superiority.

The British Navy in the Mediterranean was the largest navy and they had done very well against the Italians and scared the Italians.

They had blown up a lot of cruisers and injured battleships and carriers.

So

they dropped soldiers into

Crete, mostly in the Hanya area.

The two capital cities are Hanya and Heraklion.

And they tried to surprise them, and it didn't work.

The Greeks fought just absolutely courageously, and they had just primitive weapons.

And the British who had evacuated there

were only about 20,000, but

they were not well supplied enough to help the Greeks.

But between the two, they held out for about four days, and each time the Luftwaffe brought in a new group of soldiers, they were

rendered inert.

So they were getting worried, and they started to build up from Greece.

So then

they brought in some Italian ships at night.

They started landing some troops, and then they made a whole effort.

Had

the New Zealand commander of Allied forces, Freiburg, been more aggressive, he could have taken the airfield and held it, and they wouldn't have been able to land at Marmalay.

So anyway, the point is after 10 days, they landed enough German troops.

Eventually they would get up to about 20,000.

They took this long island

halfway between

Libya, Egypt, and Greece.

And they said, at this point, we're going to close down this theater, and we're not going to supply Rommel.

He'll just have to hold still because now we're going into Russia.

The problem with the campaign was that the British fought so ferociously, and the Greeks did,

that they damaged about or destroyed 500 Luftwaffe BF-109s, Stukka dive bombers, logistical planes, and this was on top of the other 400 or 500 they had lost in Greece, and this was on top of the Blitz that had just ended.

That was July 1940 to

January, February 1941, where they lost 2,000 planes.

And they had lost 20,000 soldiers going into Poland, dead, another 25,000 in the victory in France, and then in the quagmire, they've lost another 3,000 or 4,000.

So they had lost about five divisions of some of their top people, and they had lost probably in aggregate 3,000 planes.

So when they went into Russia, even even though they had this huge force, they didn't realize that logistically they did not have the air power to support the armies because they had lost so many transport planes.

Hitler was so shocked about the 2,000 dead Germans.

They killed more British and Greeks.

And he said, no more, never again are we going to have major paratroop drops.

The Americans looked at it, and so did the British, and they said, wow, this worked.

And so they got the opposite message, and they created more sophisticated airborne.

They looked at the German system, and they saw, well, their parachutes are lousy, you can't steer them, we can improve, we can improve.

And they did.

But Hitler only used them on special operations to, you know, free Mussolini or somebody, but they never wanted to do it again.

There were a couple of sidelights to the battle.

Patrick Lee Faymore, the famous classicist and novelist,

was there.

There was a lot of British expatriates that loved to live in Crete.

And he staged, he dressed up with, I think his name was Stanley Moss.

They dressed up as German officers and they went in to Heraklion and they captured a three-star German, in German, and they said, we're here to pick you up for a mission.

And they got him to the, they drove and kidnapped him and drove him across the island, hiked over the mountains to the south, and then a PT boat took him to

Britain.

It's in one of his novels.

If you read, I mean, one of his books.

I met him.

When I was living in Greece in 1973,

a group of us went in Areopagus.

He lived in the Mani.

He built with his wife a home.

Couldn't believe it.

He drank heavily and he was smoking nonstop, and I think he lived to be in his late 90s.

Paul Ray, the classicist, knew him very well.

But this tragedy of what happened is that they,

when they kidnapped that general, I think his name was Mueller or something, not Mueller, that Mueller was the other one, but they did all of these reprisals.

That was the first time

that the German army had, the Luftwaffe always had a reputation of not being

tyrannical, bloodthirsty Nazis.

They were in charge of the POW camps, and they were pretty wild.

They killed hundreds of Greek patriots in reprisals for the kidnaps.

So Patrick Lee Feemar and Sally Moss, they meant well, but they got off, and then they took it out on the Greeks.

And that really,

the generals that were left, that maybe his name was Mueller,

the Greeks tried him after the war, and they executed him for what he did to the Greeks there.

There was another really tragic story.

There was a famous aristocrat from a very wealthy family, John Pendlebury, and he had been blinded in one eye, I remember when he was young, but he had written The Palaces of Crete, and he was a brilliant Cambridge classicist.

And he'd excavated in Greece.

And anyway, in his late 30s or middle 30s, he and his wife went to Crete, and he was in charge of the excavations.

And he knew very well that there's a lot of German archaeologists, and he got along with them.

And the war broke out.

And he had enlisted in British intelligence on Crete.

And he knew that island backwards and forwards, as did Patrick Lee former.

So during this resistance, he was trying to help.

He wasn't a spy, he wasn't a guerrilla, he was uniformed, and he was sort of an advisor showing British troops where the best routes were, bridges and stuff.

And he got shot

in the chest.

He would have lived.

A German doctor who had been captured, I think he had been captured, he treated him.

He removed the bullet, he was fine.

The next day, the Germans came in to the village, and they saw him, and he protested that he was a British officer.

And they said, you don't have your dog tags on.

And they had just removed his shirt because of the thing.

And so they took him out and put him against the wall and shot the greatest Minoan, Mycenaean,

classicist of his generation.

If you go today to the British, British have beautiful, Americans have very beautiful war cemeteries.

I was on the War Monuments Board Commission, and the British have the War Graves Commission.

You go to Honya and they have beautiful graves.

They're a little bit different than the way that we do it.

They don't have lawns as much, but they have rose bushes and stuff by each grave.

And you can find John J.S.

Pendlebury.

So every time I've gone to Crete eight or nine times, I always go up there.

It's very tragic to see what he was executed by the German.

The other thing about Crete was once they got the island,

it it played almost no role role.

They didn't have the wherewithal to bring in a lot of German bombers and aircraft to bomb Cairo or Alexandria and get the Suez Canal.

It was a depot, but they had no navies.

The British still had maritime supremacy, so they tried to bring U-boats into the Mediterranean.

I think of the forty U-boats that went in to the Mediterranean, thirty-nine were sunk, because the British brought in oil from Iraq and the Gulf through the Suez Canal, through the Mediterranean, out Gibraltar.

And once they did away with the Italian navy and they had blown up the captured French navy, the Germans had no Mediterranean fleet.

So the British ran the whole Mediterranean.

So to supply Rommel or to supply Crete was almost impossible

because you had to do it by night by air or you had to get a convoy from Greece all the way over there or from Italy.

And it was very difficult to do.

So for I think there was about 5,000 people killed, roughly 2,000 Germans, maybe 2,500 Greeks and

British.

But then it was never retaken.

It just stayed there as a backwater.

It was kind of like the Greek islands themselves that the Germans occupied.

There's a lot of good literature written about the battle for Crete and documentaries.

It would seem, though, that today the United States finds it a convenient base for its, I guess, Air Force.

It's funny.

There's a big NATO base at Ceuta Bay in Hanya,

and that is on the western side, the northwest side of the island.

It's a beautiful city.

Hanya is one of the most beautiful cities in Greek.

They have a nice university there, and they have a big NATO base.

I took a military group,

maybe

in my military history when we used to have this company with Al Philip.

We took about 80 people that year, and we went to Hanyao.

We got permission, and we met the Greek office.

But it was a NATO base.

The United States had a base.

But during, when the

Papadopoulos government fell in 73, it was replaced by a dictatorship by Ioannides in 74.

He fell, and then you had the return of the socialist democracy.

So they got, that was the period, that was when I left Greece.

It was during the Cyprus War.

There was so much anti-Americanism blaming us on the dictatorship.

And so

it was a time when all Americans left Greece.

So we had a, we were going to home port a carrier in Piraeus.

We had missile bases at Mount Cathyron, but all U.S.

troops were more or less removed.

And then every time,

I think I'd visited Greece between

1982 and 2010, maybe 30 times,

and it was all anti-American, anti-American.

And then recently, with the Matsakis government and the rise of a more

belligerent Turkey and the realization that the United States

supports Greece,

the Greeks and the Americans have been very friendly.

Greece is a very good ally of the United States.

It's very fair to Israel.

Israel, Cyprus, and Greece have the East Med project that Biden canceled, but Trump has greenlined again.

And I think we even have maybe 12, is it F-15 or F-16s up in Thessaly based for the first time?

But that's a NATO base.

In 1973, during the Yom Kippur War, a guy came to, called me,

a fellow student, and he was in Crete.

we were off for break and he said you've got to come down here to Hanya

he said the Americans are supplying Israel but they can't land on the NATO base Greece won't let them so there's a big carrier and they're landing on the carrier and then they're refueling so I took that night passage on on a you know, you go down seven at night and you get there at seven in the morning, and I went to Hanya, and so about four guys, we sat out in a hill above Hanya, and off the shore you could see this American carrier, and all these planes were landing and then taking off.

Israel suffered terribly from surface-to-air missiles, so they were trying to supply Phantom jets, and I think American pilots were flying them in.

I was really angry at Greece at that time because they were letting the Soviet Union fly over Greek airspace.

I saw a Soviet transport.

Everybody said, look at this huge plane, it's flying right over Crete.

And they were letting the Russians fly over Crete and in Greek airspace to supply the Arabs, but they were not allowing their own NATO partner, the United States, to fly over Greece to supply Israel because they were so...

And then I can see why, because they cut all oil off anyway to Greece.

So when we were living there, for the whole winter, we had no oil, fuel oil.

furnace oil for our radiators and it was against the rules to use an electric plug-in because all they had was lignite

powered up in Megalopolis.

And so I think I told that story where there was this age professor, he's very famous, H.

D.

Kiddo.

He's kind of rude.

I loved him though.

He taught me Greek.

He wrote a great book called The Greeks and somebody in our class, we were walking by and he was had the curtains and they had a little electric heater and they were he and his wife were so cold in a basement.

And that guy goes, look at him, we're freezing.

And I said, yeah, but he's 85 years old.

So he went back and called the

electric police on him to cut off his heater.

That's so cruel.

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Well,

just one last thing, though, on Crete.

The United States maintains one section of that NATO base there, right?

So

they have a section of it.

And that's by request of NATO.

I mean, NATO is the United States in that part of the world.

The Sixth Fleet.

Sixth Fleet is not what it used to be, but it's still the biggest fleet in the Mediterranean.

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Alright, Victor, let's then turn back to the news.

And in the news, a few things.

China has just

wheeled out, I guess, or floated out its new aircraft carrier.

I was wondering if you had any thoughts on China with an aircraft carrier that carries 40 planes, by the way.

60.

40?

Oh, the article I read was 40.

It's kind of scary because

they had bought an old, remember they had bought an old Soviet carrier that they got

that was broke and was rusting, and they claimed they were going to use it for a casino.

So they towed it to China, and then they made it into an actual carrier.

And you remember they had the slope where you land.

Their idea is that you take off and then the deck goes up, so the plane doesn't fall straight down.

It goes up.

But the first two carriers were kind of Russian design.

They bought the designs that are not very good.

Maybe they're, I don't know, 40 or 50,000 ton displacement.

They hold maybe 30 planes, and they're kind of

decrepit Russian design.

This one,

if you look at a picture of this, did you see this one with a new Gerald Ford?

It looks like they just copied the whole Gerald Ford.

Gerald Ford is the biggest ship ever, it's the biggest warship ever made, 102,000 tons.

It replaces the Nimitz.

We have 10 carriers that are Nimitz class.

The Gerald Ford is bigger.

They're about 95,000, I think.

It's about 102,000 or 3,000.

It carries 65 planes.

And the key is when you get these big jets now that are not just fighters, but they're fighter bombers, everything like F-35s

or

new Super Hornets and all that.

The old technology of steam catapults, they don't have enough thrust to take them off.

They're so heavy and the deck has to be heavier.

But the new Gerald Florid has a kind of an electromagnetic catapult that can shoot almost anything.

And what I'm mentioning all this for is that Chinese new carrier has one just like its catapult system is not like the steam propulsion.

It's like our latest one.

It came from us.

Everything that they have comes from us.

And they have three fleet carriers now.

We have 11, so we're still way ahead of them, and we're under construction.

We're making three to replace three.

I think every five years one goes out and a new one comes in.

Also, Also this has this Gerald Ford has the largest, as I understand it, nuclear propelled engines ever made.

So it can go much faster even though it's bigger than any aircraft carrier in the world and we're going to make I think four of them.

They cost about $15 billion

each.

So,

you know, a frigate,

I would rather have a nuclear frigate than the Tehachapi Solar Project for $2 billion,

to tell you the truth.

So

I just think, Mr.

Trump, if you're listening to this farmer out in the middle of nowhere, please don't let in 600,000 Chinese students.

Because I guarantee you that 6,000 to 7,000 are People's Liberation Army officers under the guise of students, and they're going to come here and they're going to try to befriend American students and people in Silicon Valley, and they're going to try to steal things.

And we are fueling all of their technological development.

And we don't want to make it so easy for them.

We have a soap opera going on with the Ryan Ruth trial.

Jury came back, he was convicted of all five charges, and he tried to stab himself in the neck.

And I was wondering if you had any thoughts on that.

I don't like to follow any of that.

Excuse me, I'm sorry.

He tried to stab himself in the neck with a pin from the.

Okay.

I find all

those people are satanic.

You know, his daughter stormed out and said he wasn't giving a free trial.

What do you mean he didn't get a free trial?

The man had a sniper's nest, and had he not been spotted at the last moment, he would have killed Donald Trump.

He was a complete evil person.

I was afraid that under some quirk they might try him in Washington or New York, and I don't know what would have happened if that had had happened, rather than in Florida.

But he at least, I hope they give him the death penalty, I really do.

Even though it's conspiracy to kill the President of the United States, they need to have some deterrent, because as I said earlier, when you see this, the communications of Tyler Robinson to his trans girlfriend, boyfriend, when he says, oh, I didn't want to tell you right away because I explained, I thought I'd be living to an old age and nobody would ever knew.

He never thought he was going to get caught.

And if he did get caught, he thought he would be like de Carlos Brown, slit a little immigrant girl's throat, and then it'll be just like the other 14 felonies that he committed.

And he just went in and out.

And then Miss Stokes, the magistrate who had never passed the bar, just let him out to her own alternative treatment where she was profiting.

So

it's,

I

don't think these people are necessarily crazy.

I do think they make a cost-to-benefit analysis in two different ways.

They're on the left, and they think if we kill

the Republican hierarchy, or we kill a United Healthcare executive, or we kill, as just happened, they killed one person and wounded two at an ICE center.

Gavin, remember that?

You said Christy Noam was going to have a bad day.

Well, they had a bad day today.

They killed an immigrant.

A guy just got on a roof and shot randomly into a detention center.

And you and Karen Bass are lowering the bar along with Jasmine Crockett and the rest of you who are demonizing immigration and customs enforcement.

So, but I do believe they think they're going to be iconic and praised like Luigi Mangioni is.

And two, they think they're not going to be punished.

They think, well, you know, I might go to an alternative sensing and I'll get out in 10 years or something.

And they need to tell these people: if you shoot a public official, we are going to look for the death penalty and we're going to be swift about it.

And you're not going to be famous.

And I think they could deter a lot of people.

Yeah, they sure could.

Well, Victor, let's take our last break and then we'll come back and talk a little bit about YouTube's new commitment to free speech.

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Victor, so YouTube has sent a letter to the House Judiciary Committee.

Jim Jordan

chairs that committee, and they have committed to free speech in all sorts of ways.

It's quite a long letter, but I wanted to read you one part of it that they put in there.

They said, it is unacceptable and wrong when any government, including the Biden administration, attempts to dictate how the company moderates content.

And so now, once the Biden administration is gone,

YouTube, Google, Alphabet, they're all kind of the same company, has said that they are not going to allow the government to moderate.

All the left is so angry that Brendan Carr, the Trump-appointed Federal Communications Commissioner, said he was looking at

Jimmy Kimmel for deliberately

implanting a lie on national TV and saying this was a mega shooter.

And he would look at that.

Then people conflated that with the temporary decision on the part of Disney to take him off the air.

Then Disney folded to this mob of celebrities and he's back on.

The FCC, repeat, did not take him off.

Was that a good thing to do?

Probably it was good in the moral sense, but legally it was a mistake, I think, because the FCC really regulates speech and not content so much.

If you went after every single person on national TV who lies,

you would have to kick off the whole view.

They lied all of CNN, all of MMNBC.

What would you do with Brian Williams?

The guy made up everything he said.

He said he was a hero in copter crashes and everything.

He was a complete inveterate liar.

What would you have to do with all these people?

So I just think it's not in the Trump interest to go in and start regulating people's speech.

And I think that's good.

It's a corporate-free market decision that you should use your power as a consumer to affect.

And because Jimmy Kimmel was on record so much, gleefully cheering on conservatives that were deplatformed, like Tucker or others, he deserved what he got, even though it was just a little suspension.

And I think he won't be back very long.

Too many of the subsidiaries don't want him on.

Nobody wants to hear him.

And

he doesn't have a winning personality.

He's got a mean streak, nasty person.

He's cruel to people, and he's not funny.

I think these companies are a little too conveniently also coming in on the side of, well, we don't agree with censorship of our platform, et cetera, because now they have the Trump administration and not the Biden administration that wanted to censor theirs.

Yeah,

they implanted FBI agents into Twitter and the old Twitter and Facebook to stop any information about Hunter's authentic laptop.

They got it, went after the New York York Post.

Obama, remember he went after cell phone encryption, I mean data on AP reporters.

Obama did that.

They went to the Google people and they went to the Facebook people.

Google guys said it the other day.

They said we're going to

force them to monitor content of people on the right.

I'm not even going to get into Lois Lerner and the IRS trying to disrupt conservatives of flying for non-profit status.

I think my point is now, do you think, well, if a left-leaning administration gets back in, will they just be right back into censorship again?

And yeah, that's the companies, that's how they work.

That's how they roll.

This is the problem that the Republicans have.

The Democrats do whatever they have because they think their superior moral and intellectual ends justify any means necessary.

So they have five criminal lawfare attempts to destroy Donald Trump.

They raid his house.

They try to get him off the ballot.

They fine him $500 million.

They think of anything.

If you even go after a John Bolton for good cause, then they go crazy.

This is

weaponizing the government.

And the same thing about

right before the last debate, the government armed Joe Biden with a lie.

So he got up on stage and said, Donald Trump, Trump, you're lying about my son.

He didn't, that's not his computer.

The Russians did this because 51 intelligence authorities have all, and that was all cooked up by Anthony Blinken, his campaign flack and future Secretary of State.

But my point is, if you even talk about like Brendan Carr, oh my gosh,

we've lost our freedom.

And

they project so successfully.

So then that begs the question, when you're in power, how do you stop them?

Do you use their,

you just say to themselves, well, you know what, we're going to do what you do to teach you a lesson, and we don't really listen to you.

Call us fascists.

We don't care, but you're going to have to feel what we felt.

And then maybe you won't do it again.

Or do you say, I play by the Marcus of Queensbury rules.

I'm not going to destroy the Constitution to go down to their level.

And then when they come back, they'll say, well, because they would never get down to our level, we're going to get even lower.

And that's hard to know how to deal with them.

They're like adolescents.

You know what I mean?

They're like little teenagers.

The whole party is now.

Every time I listen to Jasmine Crockett,

I say to myself, this is a very wealthy, upper-middle-class, privileged, spoiled girl, woman, and she went to $35,000 a year tuition prep schools,

and And she speaks normal English, if I can use that bad term, normal.

And

she plays this game that when she gets on television, she uses the inner city ghetto patois.

And then she starts in her racial gerrymands.

Race, race, race.

White, white, white, white, white.

And

she's a creature of this whole left-wing,

we're going to do whatever you do, and if you ever talk like we do, if you substituted the word white, black for white,

and you just had somebody that said, every time she says white, you said black,

she'd go nuts.

It is so racist.

Same thing with Joy Reed.

Same thing with Don Lamon.

All of these guys, they don't think they understand what they're doing.

They're just so racially fixated.

As I said, tribalism is like nuclear proliferation.

You're a bunch of states in the Middle East, and all of a sudden one state has a bomb, and then everybody wants to get a bomb.

Well, if you're sitting there, and every time Jasmine Crockett or Al Sharpton just keeps saying black, black, black, black, black, white, white, white, white, white, or people just use this term white synonymously with a pejorative, so every time you hear the word white on television, it is a negative context.

And every time you go on direct TV and you look at a title with white men can't jump, white this, white, it's all negative.

It's like the treatment of blacks in the 1930s and 40s.

I just, it's going to just tell people, you want to go tribal, this group will go tribal.

So it's good to stop that.

But how do you stop it, Jasmine Crockett?

Because that language catapulted her to national attention for being such a racist.

Yeah, it's very sad.

I don't know how to stop it, Victor.

I wish I had an answer for you.

Well, Victor, we're at the end of the show, and we have comments from our

viewers and our listeners.

And this one was from YouTube.

And I've been waiting for this one.

I've been waiting for a Karen to write, who is a politically dysfunctional, socially misfit, religiously compromised Karen.

And so here it is.

She says, and her name, it's JF Kaja 4043.

She says,

K-A-J-E-H.

I don't know what it means.

Anyway, she says, thank you, Victor.

I look forward to listening to you every day.

I am a white 68-year-old coastal dwelling Californian native, college-educated, teaching credential possessor, retired school administrator, and Cal Poly San Luis Obaspo lecturer.

What is the difference between me and those women,

many of whom I know and have worked with?

And she asked that question and she answers it for you.

She says, I am a Christian and a lover of truth.

I left the destructive Democratic Party over a decade ago.

So there you go.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

Straight from a Karen's mouth, huh?

Yes,

last week I was walking in Palo Alto, and I won't tell you where

and there was a Karen in front of me and I walked very fast behind her in my evening walk

and she looked at me

and I

said I'm not trying to pass you.

I just thought it might be uncomfortable for you to hear people walking, you know.

a man walking right behind you at seven o'clock at night.

And she didn't, she just looked at me and growled.

Didn't even say hello.

Usually when I see them, I'm 72, but usually when I see them, they just walk in this little narrow sidewalk.

They just walk toward me and I'm supposed to jump in the gutter.

And I always do, so they can walk by with their dogs or something.

But they never say hello.

You say hello, they never say hi.

And

they're kind of get off the grass type people, only

where's your mask, this.

And every time I see a demonstration against Trump or Charlie Kirk's thing, I just look at the crowd.

They're just, it's like central casting.

And then my mind goes back, if I could say this.

Well, Victor, you're 72.

You made the mistake of going to UC Santa Cruz when you were 17.

And you saw coming from the farm a whole different world, a very affluent Southern California children of newbie producers, financiers, very wealthy kids.

And this was the tail end of the 60s.

The Vietnam War was almost, there was no fighting really left in 72.

And you saw the most promiscuous people I'd ever seen in my life.

I mean in Selma High School people said,

Did you know John Doe?

We think he might have had sex with his girlfriend.

Oh my God.

Really?

They're going to have to get married.

And then you go to this thing where people were having sexual congress in the bathroom openly or at parties.

And then you saw people with drugs, you know, hashish, $5 this, on their door.

And then you saw all the protests where people, I was sitting in Gary Miles' history class and people came in with chairs.

I mean, carrying a chair in and throwing it at us.

And this is the Vietnam moratorium and you're getting out right now.

Yeah.

But do you think public universities have changed at all?

I know you can find private ones that are not like that, but.

No, I think they're more now into race and tribalism.

But my point was, and in those days, if you went to UC Santa Cruz today, it's probably 30 or 40 percent white.

It's a multicultural, and you'll see Palestinian.

The issues will be Palestine, La Raza, BLM, right?

But it won't be an inclusive, we hate America kind of like this was.

When I went to UC Santa Cruz, I bet you five bucks it was 95% white.

But what I'm getting at is the girls that were my age,

that was the era when no one shaved their arms, no one shaved their legs, they used something called petouli oil.

They were, I'm not saying all, but very promiscuous, like the guys were, drug users.

So, what I'm getting at is that I watched that generation age, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70.

So, when I see them at airports and they come up to you and try to be, all I just go back to is I say to myself figuratively, I know you.

I talked to you in the amphitheater in 1971, whether I did or not.

I know you.

You were in my Western Civ seminar and sat on the floor and started mouthing off all the time and interrupting everybody.

Oh, I know you.

You were the one that

had 17 boyfriends in the dorm.

So I know them all.

And I'm just being facetious.

Somebody's going to say, well, I wasn't like that.

Of course you weren't.

But what I'm telling you is that there's something about that baby

boomer, affluent, entitled generation on the left.

And they always acted as if they were poor or they wore rouchy clothes or they didn't take bath, but they were so absorbed with their money and their credentials.

And my dad, did I ever tell anybody my dad wrote the screenplay?

He wrote the screenplay for the Maltese Falcon.

You know, they'd say things like that all the time.

So they were snobbed, and that's who they are now.

They're anal, retentive, compulsive, obsessive

people, that

bicostal, affluent elite.

And

I can see them because I've met them my entire life.

And

they are completely no-holes bar.

They're just like they're out there in the quad at Cal College, UC Santa Cruz, and they're protesting.

And they're saying, F.

Nixon, F.

Nixon, F.

Nixon,

you know, out of Cambodia.

You know what I mean?

Viet Cong are going to win.

And I see them out there, F Trump.

You know what I mean?

65-year-olds, 75-year-old women saying F, the F word.

And I just think, man, I've seen you.

You're the Karen with a thousand faces.

I see you on planes.

I see you at the airport.

I see you on sidewalks.

You always get in everybody's business.

You always lecture people.

You always are so paranoid and so

obsessive with everything.

And I can see why people stereotype you.

That's a good rant.

Yeah.

Okay, Victor, just remember that there are some socially dysfunctional dysfunctional and religiously compromised Karens out there.

Yes.

All right.

Well, thank you for all of your wisdom today.

This has been a pleasure.

And thanks to our audience for joining us.

We appreciate everybody spending some time with us on Saturday.

And Victor just said something that reminded me of our topic for next Saturday.

It will be the Tet Offensive.

So that's something to look forward to.

We hope everybody comes back.

and joins us.

These are all questions that you wrote in.

Somebody wrote in about Crete, Tet,

Sherman.

So we'll be there.

All right, thank you.

This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis-Hansen, and we're signing off.

Thank you, everyone.