Trump's Speech to Congress and Democratic Leadership

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Speaker 3 He's going to tell us a little later about, you know, I know many of you have missed the last two,

Speaker 3 what should have been the last two episodes. Victor's was a little under the weather, so he and the great Sammy Wink were not able to record the two

Speaker 3 most recent podcasts, which means

Speaker 3 we have yet to hear Victor's take on Donald Trump's incredible speech to Congress a week ago. So we're going to get that.

Speaker 3 We're going to hear Victor's take on the status of the Democrat Party, of Hakeem Jeffries, of Nicole Wallace. And Victor's got a great article.

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Speaker 3 We are back with the Victor Davis-Hanson Show. Victor, give us a little

Speaker 3 explanation of why you've been playing hookie from this podcast. Well, I have to apologize.
I haven't missed one since we started three and a half years ago. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 You know, I've been

Speaker 3 had COVID a lot, but

Speaker 3 it's very hard to go from a rural place to a rural place. So from my farm to the Fresno Airport to Dallas to a connection to Detroit

Speaker 3 and then two hours so to get to Hillsdale. It usually takes me 12 or 14 hours.
And it was it was a 40, I guess maybe 50, I left it was 65 degrees and I got there it was 12 degrees. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 That was my grandmother always told me change of weather. But

Speaker 3 I did a lot of stuff. You know, I had a book signing and lecture and

Speaker 3 a video. Maybe that was it.
But anyway, I came back and I was up.

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We took the shuttle at 4.45,

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Speaker 3 all ready for my big conference that I have to host, the Military History Working Group on Friday. I wake up Thursday, I thought I was dead.

Speaker 3 Really did. I had 102 temperature,

Speaker 3 and pretty much I've been the same there all day,

Speaker 3 Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 3 today, Monday, still sick.

Speaker 3 But at least I can sit up. And my wife was very ill.
She's got it.

Speaker 3 And I got one of those little kits. You know, the kind that say COVID, influenza A, influenza B, it's influenza A.

Speaker 3 Somebody's going to say, well, do you get a

Speaker 3 vaccination? No, I used to get them every year. And every year I'd get a flu vaccination, I'd get the flu.
So this last four years, I haven't got one.

Speaker 3 Usually if I get the flu or something like it or a bad cold, it's two or three days of hell and then maybe a week of being tired. But

Speaker 3 been in bed more debilitated with this than I was with the acute phases of COVID. Yeah, for some reason, it just knocked me out.

Speaker 3 I think the biggest problem is your eyes, you move them sideways, and just the muscles are achy. Anyway, I'll try my best today.

Speaker 3 Well, your worst is better than everyone else's best. So, Victor,

Speaker 3 I

Speaker 3 was,

Speaker 3 I know.

Speaker 3 Pierre Pierre Polvet. Pola Vay?

Speaker 3 Who is he? Poliev.

Speaker 3 Poliev. Sorry.

Speaker 3 Pierre Polyev. I'm eating my apple.
Manja, Doctor. So a week ago, Tuesday, I was in New York City, and I got back to Milford at

Speaker 3 nine at night, and I had not been able to see any of

Speaker 3 the much-awaited Donald Trump speech. And when I came to the house, my wife was watching forensic files, and I said,

Speaker 3 why is it the speech on?

Speaker 3 And she says, well, I started watching it with all this lunacy and craziness. It was so disturbing.

Speaker 3 And so I changed the channel. I said, well, put it on.
And I thought I was going to catch the end of the speech. Actually, I think I was just getting to the middle of it.

Speaker 3 And there was another hour to go. It was the longest speech.

Speaker 3 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 3 It was terrific.

Speaker 3 I thought it was terrific. I thought it was

Speaker 3 really profound. Anyway, Victor, who cares what I think?

Speaker 3 What was your take on this? Well, it was long, but

Speaker 3 I went back and looked at a lot of it. A lot of it was long because of the interruptions.
You know, if it had just been staccato quick, because

Speaker 3 there were all these things, like Al Green taking his cane like a crazy Septuagintarian, reminding me of Tiresias or somebody, just screaming and yelling, and they had to escort him out, and then he was defiant.

Speaker 3 And then you had the women, the same dress in pink, and then you had the bingo card, little paddle. You know, Elon's a thief.
Here's a guy who's a thief, and he's trying to find out where

Speaker 3 a trillion dollars of thievery went. Not all thievery, but a lot of it apparently is.

Speaker 3 And here, the people who were protesting are the main beneficiaries of Act Blue, which is disintegrating before our eyes because everybody's fleeing it because they can't stand the scrutiny.

Speaker 3 It looks like the Act Blue, the Democratic PAC, was funding groups that were demonstrating outside of Teslas and stuff. So

Speaker 3 he had all of that disruption.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 he said to them, there's nothing I can do to cure cancer. Anything I do, you're not going to like.

Speaker 3 And so he went through this counter-revolution on every aspect of the border. He had one great line, and I thought the greatest was he said, we were told that

Speaker 3 Biden couldn't secure the border because he needed new legislation.

Speaker 3 It turned out all we needed new was a new president. And that's what he did.

Speaker 3 He really put a lie to comprehensive immigration. That was always a lie that they used.

Speaker 3 And I guess one thing when I listened to the speech,

Speaker 3 Now you can see why they did it. There was no reason to open the borders.
There was no reason to welcome in 12 million. They did it intentionally.
They did it intentionally to change the demography.

Speaker 3 Yes, I said that. And anybody who says it, they said, oh, you're part of the Tucker Carlson great replacement theory.
No, you are.

Speaker 3 You're the demography is destiny and the new democratic majority. And now you don't like it because nearly half of Hispanics voted for Trump.

Speaker 3 And now you're afraid that you're importing future Trump voters.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 it was very comprehensive, and I think everybody should hold on because this is not 2017. He doesn't have Rex Tillerson and Jim Mattis and my friend H.R.
McMaster and Bolton

Speaker 3 and Anonymous and John Kelly around him and Bill Barr, nice people.

Speaker 3 He's got, but those people felt it was their duty to be a filter and to reinterpret MAGA directives and to change them if they didn't like them. These groups are MAGA enhancers.

Speaker 3 They come to Trump and say, here's what we can do on the border. Here's what we can do in defense.
Here's what we can do at DOJ. Here's what we can do at the FBI.
So it's a whole different world.

Speaker 3 And it's a revolution,

Speaker 3 counter-revolution that's really picking up steam. The only worries that I have, and I wrote them in a long essay for the New Criterion,

Speaker 3 and I've mentioned them before, is that

Speaker 3 we have never in the history of the United States been able to balance this type of deficits, but get a balanced budget with this much red ink

Speaker 3 by

Speaker 3 only cutting spending and cutting taxes to grow the economy. It's never happened before.

Speaker 3 And the theory is that if they cut taxes and they give incentives, They'll get more investment. But that's going to be a long-term process.
It could take a year.

Speaker 3 But if you total up no taxes on Social Security, no taxes on tips, no taxes on first responders has been mentioned,

Speaker 3 and then people saying there's no way that Elon Musk and Doge can get to $2 trillion, they'll be lucky to get to half a trillion, we could get

Speaker 3 still some big deficits. And then the same thing about the MAGA-Jacksonian foreign policy.
We don't want to get into other people's business and start wars, but he inherited a very dangerous world.

Speaker 3 So when Trump tells Gaza, you release the hostages or else. You release the hostages or else.

Speaker 3 Release the hostages or else.

Speaker 3 Or he says to Putin,

Speaker 3 don't be bombing. He said that in November.
Do not escalate. Putin, don't escalate.
Or he says to Zelensky, we're going to cut you off. We're going to cut you off.

Speaker 3 He's got to come through on those threats. I think it would be better not to make them and just do stuff.

Speaker 3 I would just say too, if you really want to deal, and when Trump means you better

Speaker 3 release all of the hostages or else,

Speaker 3 what he's really saying is that somebody's going to have to go into those tunnels and get them, right? Or destroy all of the Hamas people.

Speaker 3 And from what you read, there's only about 20% of the tunnels have been destroyed.

Speaker 3 So that would be a gargantuan job, and it would be antithetical to MAGA philosophy of getting inside a never-ending war in the Middle East again, after Afghanistan and Iraq.

Speaker 3 So he's got a lot of obstacles to be careful. He has to be very careful about.

Speaker 3 I think people around him have to realize that we are in a cultural counter-revolution, and they're going to have to be very careful how they wage it because

Speaker 3 they have the media, they have the popular culture, they have all the institutions against them.

Speaker 3 And he mentioned Canada and

Speaker 3 Mexico. As long as he stays on this one principle of

Speaker 3 reciprocity, we don't like tariffs. We do not issue tariffs against people who

Speaker 3 don't have tariffs on ours. We want everybody to have the same tariffs that we do.

Speaker 3 That's a very liberal position. Why are they angry? And the answer is, I guess

Speaker 3 Canada, they've got this new Mark Kerry, this new leader, Jack, and he's taken over from Trudeau. There's been no elections.

Speaker 3 These are supposedly how a parliamentary democracy works, by just appointing somebody to be the prime minister who was never elected.

Speaker 3 The only person who was elected is the head of the party was Trudeau.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 in any case, he's really taken a hardcore anti-Trump position and is going to square terrorists. But my question to the Canadians is, I agree with them that this 51 state stuff

Speaker 3 is silly. We don't want you or

Speaker 3 you don't want to be part of us and we don't want you to be part of us. Why would we want

Speaker 3 a country the size of California that bring in two more left-wing Senate seats and 50, 50, because there's 41 million people, 52 House seats that would be all left-wing?

Speaker 3 And why would we want socialized medicine and all the stuff that you do? And your GDP

Speaker 3 is not commiserate with our GDP based on population. And more importantly, your per capita income is lower than Mississippi, our lowest of the 50 states.

Speaker 3 So we would like to tell Canada, I think Donald Trump doesn't need to get into the 50 Governor Trudeau. I know he's trolling them.
Just say

Speaker 3 We respect your sovereignty and we're not persecuting. We're really not.

Speaker 3 But we're $36 trillion in debt. We're running almost a trillion dollars in aggregate trade deficits.
And you are our friends, and you're running now over

Speaker 3 $53 billion annual deficits. Mexico, $177?

Speaker 3 Why don't we just

Speaker 3 go down to $10 billion? That's all you have to do?

Speaker 3 Well, you know, it's mostly you're buying our energy. No, it's not all that.
You won't let in our timber, you won't let in our butter, our agriculture.

Speaker 3 We buy your electricity, we buy your gas, we buy your oil.

Speaker 3 So, and then, you know, now they're starting to patrol the border some. That's not a big issue.
Donald Trump said it was one of the sticking points. The real issue is

Speaker 3 twofold with Canada. Please treat us the way

Speaker 3 we treat you. And let's just have a small trade surplus.
And two,

Speaker 3 what happened to you, Canada? You used to have the third greatest Navy in the world. And D-Day, you had your own beach, Juneau Beach.
You had the first Canadian Army. It was a wonderful army.

Speaker 3 Why don't you, you're only spending 1.3%

Speaker 3 of your defense,

Speaker 3 your GDP on defense. You've violated the essential NATO promise.
You've done it for 11 years.

Speaker 3 You've continuously not told the truth. Why don't you just spend 2%? In fact, you could coordinate with us.
Let's map up an iron dome protection for North America from missile defense.

Speaker 3 You supply some of the natural resources, the energy, the bases. We supply the hardware.
Or maybe if you don't want to build a navy, build 20 or 30 icebreakers.

Speaker 3 And then you can patrol the Arctic Circle and keep the Chinese and the Russians out of our waters. But instead, it's no, we're not going to do that.
We're not going to spend that. You guys love war.

Speaker 3 That's what you do.

Speaker 3 We're not going to spend 2%.

Speaker 3 No way.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, boulder-smolder.

Speaker 3 Big deal. And then you don't understand.
You're a big, big colossus. You don't know what it's like living next to the United States.
We have to run a trade surplus. That's their attitude.

Speaker 3 And I know Donald Trump trolls them and they get angry at that. But when I listen to Trudeau or Carney or even

Speaker 3 Poliev,

Speaker 3 they don't get it that this is a new world. And then we looked to Mexico,

Speaker 3 they're making about $260 billion off of this. They got about $177 billion trade.
They're the largest trade surplus of our partners rocking up, except for China now, Mexico.

Speaker 3 They are helping China get around all tariffs by having China send the stuff to them. They assemble the car, the TV, the

Speaker 3 cell phone, the computer, and then they go through basically tax-free to the United States, and then they get raw fentanyl.

Speaker 3 They're killing 70 to 100,000 Americans a year from fentanyl, and it's not just our fault, as people say. No, it's laced.

Speaker 3 They look at Adaman, value, opiates, metamphetamine, you name it, and they put fentanyl in it.

Speaker 3 And they kill a lot of Americans. And they make about $20 billion in smuggling fees and drug fees, the cartels.
They make $177 billion in a trade surplus.

Speaker 3 Yeah, how's that all made Mexico a better country?

Speaker 3 It hasn't.

Speaker 3 Why doesn't Ms.

Speaker 3 Scheinbaum, instead of trying to pose as the European-trained or American-trained Marxist, why doesn't she just look in the mirror and say, why did 12 million, why did 40 million people leave this country and go...

Speaker 3 Europe said that in the the 19th century, we can't feed you. You got a better chance in the United States.
They never say that.

Speaker 3 Why do they leave Mexico? It's because of you guys. And you know why? Because it was a win-win-win-win from you.

Speaker 3 You got rid of your indigenous poor people that you don't, either for racist reasons or you just don't care.

Speaker 3 You wouldn't supply them with the social services they felt they could get in the United States. Two, you were counting on the $63 billion in remittances.

Speaker 3 Three, you were creating a huge ex-patriot community that was lobbying for you, 50 consulates in the United States. Or as Mr.

Speaker 3 Oberdor said, I think it's a beautiful thing to have 40 million ex-Mexican citizens in the United States. So you had your expatriate

Speaker 3 community. And of course, it was a Frederick Jackson-Turner safety valve.
so that people would not march on Mexico City. They go north.
So it was a win-win-win.

Speaker 3 And when you add it all up, $63 billion in remittances. And remember, a lot of it's subsidized by us because most people who send the money back to Mexico to their families are here illegally.

Speaker 3 And most of them are on some sort of local, state, or federal health, education, housing,

Speaker 3 food subsidy.

Speaker 3 63 million remittances, 177 in food, trade surpluses, 20 billion in cartels,

Speaker 3 $260 billion every four years, a trillion.

Speaker 3 And they don't even want to discuss it. And then Donald Trump, you know, he has to say golf of America, and they get angry and angry and angry.

Speaker 3 But again, what is their, I don't understand their reasoning. It's sort of like, well, we're poor.
So we deserve. to go through your border.
We deserve the remittances, 63

Speaker 3 billion. You're lucky to have our people.

Speaker 3 We can run up a trade surplus because you're wealthier than we are. Well, why are we wealthy? You have one of the most natural wealthy country in the world.

Speaker 3 We're wealthy and you're not because

Speaker 3 you've got a socialist economic system and a completely corrupt judiciary and law enforcement and political system.

Speaker 3 But they never talk about that.

Speaker 3 And so I never thought we'd be in an argument with Canada, but then when I started to look at the trade surpluses and the continuing failure to spend 2% on defense

Speaker 3 and then some of the rhetoric that's been coming out of Trudeau,

Speaker 3 it was inevitable.

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Speaker 3 about the

Speaker 3 MAGA Enhancer, which you mentioned earlier, I see today's New York Post, again, we're recording on Monday the 10th, front page article has this creep at Columbia. This

Speaker 3 Maumad Khali is getting his green card revoked, and he's a Hamas

Speaker 3 campus troublemaker instigator. And then

Speaker 3 separately, Donald Trump's administration announced they're cutting $400 million in aid to Columbia University and Barnard because of their DEI and ongoing anti-Semitism practices. So

Speaker 3 I wonder if this would have happened in the first Trump administration. Would someone have to say that? No, it wouldn't.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 they would have never gotten away with this. Remember, after October 7th, they went right into

Speaker 3 pro-Hamas. It wasn't anti-Israel alone.
It was pro-Hamas.

Speaker 3 And almost every immigration codicle, if you look at the law about green cards or student visas, it says that a guest here shall not be openly advocating or working on behalf of terrorist organizations.

Speaker 3 Hamas is a U.S.-declared terrorist organization. And remember those wonderful monuments

Speaker 3 in D.C. that were desecrated and they had all the red, and they said Hamas on them.
And these students know what they're doing. And again,

Speaker 3 it's that old Voltaire phrase to encourage the others.

Speaker 3 They don't have to They will not have to

Speaker 3 deport all of these people

Speaker 3 because they're just going to have to deport 10 or 20 of them. And then

Speaker 3 I spent 50 years in academia, and I can tell you there's two things that I learned. Number one,

Speaker 3 faculty are among the most timid, herd-like people in the world.

Speaker 3 If they think that it's cool to censor Scott Atlas and Jay Bacharya, then they fight with each other to get on record to do that.

Speaker 3 When they think that it's not cool to do that and they have an NIH grant and Jay is the arbiter of that, then they say, I never did it. I was always against it.

Speaker 3 So a lot of faculty were involved.

Speaker 3 If they see that people who are visiting professors, for example,

Speaker 3 and they have been advocating are now in these demonstrations and they're deported, it'll stop among the faculty. And students are herd-like at that age.

Speaker 3 And they just react to pressure and they are bullies. When you watch those students go in there and they just scream and yell and

Speaker 3 scream at the NYPD, you know, about gun, shoot yourself and horrible things.

Speaker 3 And then you have this pathetic scene where the dean wanted to go to use her own restroom and they mocked her and then they finally let her go.

Speaker 3 It would be,

Speaker 3 you know, I don't want to be too melodramatic, but a Napoleonic whiff of of grape shot would have stopped the whole thing. I don't mean that literally.

Speaker 3 I just mean all you had to do was have one high-profile person, and then they just have to say, you violated

Speaker 3 the terms of your student visa or your green card. So we're going to give you your heart's desire.
You get to go back to where

Speaker 3 you came from, and then you don't have to be here anymore in the great Satan. And I think that'll stop it.
It's almost stopped it at Stanford University.

Speaker 3 We had a disruption of Larry Summers, but they weren't students.

Speaker 3 And I think everybody knows that if you're at Stanford and you camp out more than 24 hours and you do the Hamas stuff,

Speaker 3 for the first time in memory, there's going to be a statute enforced. And they know that, so they don't do it.
It's all about deterrence. The same thing about the border.

Speaker 3 Tom Holman had a good point. He said, we're not going to have a problem.
I remember he said that during the campaign.

Speaker 3 All we have to do is arrest a few hundred and show everybody we're business, and then these caravans will turn around.

Speaker 3 And now all he has to do is, if they can start deporting people, and say the following: if you get deported, you can never come in the United States again legally. That's it.
You're on record.

Speaker 3 So we urge everybody who came in here illegally, who wants to be a resident or a citizen of the United States legally, go back home and wait in line like everybody else and apply.

Speaker 3 Because if we catch you, you're never, ever going to be able to have a green card or a student visa or come back in this country. And that would have a lot of self-deportations immediately.

Speaker 3 I think that's what they're going to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, Victor, I just, I wonder if a bunch of kids from Young America's Foundation or TPUSA sat in at, say, Oberlin College, what would happen to them?

Speaker 3 Their hyenas would be kicked out.

Speaker 3 You know, it was funny you said that in 19,

Speaker 3 I'm going to get this completely straight, 1970,

Speaker 3 73?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 Yes, 1973, I was a second-year student at UC Santa Cruz. It was during the Cambodia, you're too young, but the bombing of Cambodia.
I remember.

Speaker 3 And I was at UCSC, and they said there was going to be a student strike.

Speaker 3 And there was a 28-year-old guy in my class who had been in prison, believe it. He was on a special program to go to UC Santa Cruz.

Speaker 3 And I was from a farm, and there was a couple of guys from Odesto, and we were all kind of hung out. And it was a Greek history class.
And sure enough, these guys came in, shutting it down.

Speaker 3 How dare you hold a class? And the professor was kind of,

Speaker 3 he's a nice guy, but he was not completely muscular, maybe put it that way.

Speaker 3 And so these little skinny Antifa type guys, even then, you know, spaghetti arms, nasal voice, screaming profanities, and they just started to come in and throw chairs, you know what I mean, at us.

Speaker 3 And it, it, it didn't take

Speaker 3 this one guy grabbed a guy by the neck and he kicked him in the rear end and he held his neck while he kept kicking him down the hallway. And then they all just, it was like a...
They folded.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was like a Western where

Speaker 3 the Indians are all attacking in the cavalry cone and they just make a U-turn. They just made a U-turn like they were on horses and just ran back down.

Speaker 3 And then,

Speaker 3 as I remember, the professor didn't seem too happy with us. But we all, that point is that these people are not formidable people, and they don't have a lot of courage, and they don't have a good,

Speaker 3 they're not on the right side of history, they don't have a good,

Speaker 3 they don't have a good proposal, they don't have a good ideology. The idea that you come into a foreign country, and as guests, you start insulting and hurting people.

Speaker 3 And you know, the other thing is, if this, if you just substituted Jews for blacks,

Speaker 3 just do that, everybody, in your mind, or Hispanics. And then you had a group of people

Speaker 3 that were screaming and they were deliberately going into black studies classes or La Raza studies classes and challenging the professor.

Speaker 3 And everybody makes fun of the proud boys and all those oath keepers, but just say if they were doing that, if they were going into a university and in very racist terms trying to confront people who were black or Hispanic and disrupting their classes and calling these names and chasing them around camp, how long would it have been before James Comey or Andrew McKay or Christopher Wray's FBI would have had them in jail

Speaker 3 and then the DOJ would have had them in prison for 10 years. Not long.
But with Jews, nobody cared. And

Speaker 3 that's what was so bad about.

Speaker 3 Well, Victor, we're going to keep a little bit on Trump's speech and

Speaker 3 some polls about it, some polls on Democrats. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries is standing in the party.

Speaker 3 And you can eat an apple, take a bite out of it,

Speaker 3 and we will be back from these important messages.

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Speaker 3 So, Victor, here's a CBS News YouGov poll taken the day or two after Trump's speech. What was your take, America, on the speech?

Speaker 3 These numbers are like really incredible. 77% support his plan to cut government waste and spending.
77% back his immigration and border policies.

Speaker 3 76% approved of the speech. 76% approved of removing the congressman who interrupted it.
74% said his speech was presidential. 73% support his stance on Russia and Ukraine.

Speaker 3 Victor, America loved what they saw Tuesday night.

Speaker 3 They did. And if Donald Trump succeeds in this counter-revolution, I think he will.

Speaker 3 40 to 50% is a gift he got. I wrote an article today about it, and it's from the lunatic left.
Because when he was giving that speech, or when he gives any speech, and you see these reporters or the

Speaker 3 adversaries in Congress, it's amazing. They're just playing right into his hands.
They're so obnoxious. They're so creepy.

Speaker 3 And did you see the Senate? There was two things that were the House women, they wore sort of kickboxing mixed martial arts tights. Did you see that?

Speaker 3 For the crazy video,

Speaker 3 like this, AOC and Jasmine Crockett. What was that? Pick your fighter.
Well, I guess it's... There's some tick-tock-y kind of thing.
Pick your fighter. I think it's based off some kids' game.

Speaker 3 I don't know if it's Pokemon or some

Speaker 3 mutant ninja power turtles. I'm not sure what it was.
But yeah, it was performance art.

Speaker 3 That is what their party is about.

Speaker 3 And did you see the senators? They were using the SHIT. This is all shit.
And they just kept saying it. And I don't like it when Trump says it.
But he doesn't say it like that.

Speaker 3 They just kept resonating. I thought, so that's the Senate version, and this is the House version.

Speaker 3 And then you've got the placards and this. What do you think you people are doing? And then you turn on television and you think,

Speaker 3 you mentioned Nicole Wallace. So she's berating a little boy who's got cancer, who's supposedly being used by Donald Trump because he wants to

Speaker 3 signify that there's a new Secret Service that's empathetic, and there's a young kid in the United States whose dream was to be a Secret Service agent. It's come to his attention.

Speaker 3 He's had a brain tumor, and the father is there with him. And then you have Nicole Wallace and Rachel Maddow blasting him, and they wouldn't even stand up.

Speaker 3 They wouldn't even stand up to honor him. They didn't stand up for anybody almost.
So,

Speaker 3 and then

Speaker 3 I don't know what the strategy is, is what I'm trying to say. It's just nihilism.
If they were wise,

Speaker 3 they would get together and they said, this is the democratic Contract for America. And they would say, We are for Doge, but we want to

Speaker 3 cut, I don't know, more supervisors and less clerical workers, or we want to find places to find them jobs,

Speaker 3 or we want to cut this program or this, or we can work with you on the Defense Department, things they don't like.

Speaker 3 So they would have an alternate one, and they would try to find the issues that poll, you know, not their issues that poll 20% or 30%, but 60, 70, 80, like Trump's issues.

Speaker 3 Or they would join Trump on the border. They would say, you see, what do you need, Donald Trump?

Speaker 3 And then they would take credit for it, try to hijack the credit and say, well, we work with Donald Trump, kind of like Clinton did with Ginrich when he was willing to

Speaker 3 raise taxes for cuts. And then Clinton said, I balance the budget, not Ginrich.
So they would try to hone in on Trump's, but they don't do any of that. It's It's just nihilist.

Speaker 3 And they don't have any other strategy, but their only strategy is Trump is a fascist, fascist, fascist. And then we had

Speaker 3 Chris Matthews, whom I know a little bit. And

Speaker 3 he thinks that, yeah, it can't be Hitler, can't be Hitler anymore. So I'll just give an exegesis on Mussolini.
Yes, Chris, it's already been used. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 I think General McCaffrey already said, and when he violated Article 88 back in 2020, he called Donald Trump, I'm pretty sure it was him, he, that called him Mussolini.

Speaker 3 So you're late to the party again. Then you have James Carville.

Speaker 3 He's the sage, the couragean Cajun. He's reinvented himself at 80, Jack, as the seer.

Speaker 3 He's wrong on everything. He said that, oh, yeah,

Speaker 3 Donald Trump is going to lose. He's just a big effing white whale.
He's a

Speaker 3 big fat boy.

Speaker 3 Kamala Harris is not my favorite. She's going to win.
No, she lost. You were completely wrong about that.
And then he sees a little bruise on Trump's, on his

Speaker 3 right hand. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And he doesn't say to himself, if you were president and you give as many media appearances and interviews as he does, and you go to rallies, you probably shake in a month five or six thousand hands

Speaker 3 and you probably get a lot of muscle stress

Speaker 3 torn tissue

Speaker 3 i know that when i do a book signing it's not i can do 200 and every once in a while there's some guy who wants to you know what i mean shake your hand like a vice like he's trying to get water out of a pump yeah yeah i've had that and it hurts yeah if you've done 200 of them well that's nothing to what Trump does.

Speaker 3 So he sees the blotch and then he diagnoses him as tertiary syphilis, syphilitic.

Speaker 3 So Donald Trump is crazy and he's a syphilitic. And okay, Mr.
Carwell, you have no medical knowledge.

Speaker 3 That's like saying Joe Biden has syphilis, because according to his diagnosis, Trump is crazy and says crazy things. Well, then what would Biden, why is Biden acting that way?

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 he said, well, there there was Stormy Daniel. Well, there was Tara Reid, too.
So Joe Biden, it was no chorus boy. So

Speaker 3 that's the level of opposition that they have to Trump.

Speaker 3 And it's pathetic. Well, let me share a poll,

Speaker 3 poll's results about the Democrats. I think this is from Politico titled Poll Show, Dems Have Lost Their Way.

Speaker 3 Voters still have a sour view of Democrats six weeks after Trump, Republicans swept into Washington with control, according to a new poll. Plurality of voters, 40%

Speaker 3 said the Democratic Party doesn't have any strategy whatsoever for responding to Trump, according to the survey by the liberal firm Blueprint, that was first shared with Politico.

Speaker 3 Another 24% said Democrats have a game plan, but it's a bad one. And a paltry 10% said that the party has solid technique for dealing with Trump.
And this is all coming from the Democrat Outfits

Speaker 3 survey. I think I want to layer onto that, Victor.
Their leadership is, maybe they're yearning for Nancy Pelosi. Their leadership is Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.

Speaker 3 And Hakeem Jeffries has come out of this last week looking

Speaker 3 pretty bad. I'll leave it.
I'll shut up after this. A friend of mine called him on

Speaker 3 Mr. Moore on X described him as a dollar store Obama.

Speaker 3 I think this is pretty.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean,

Speaker 3 I don't think a nephew should suffer the sins of an uncle, but I followed very carefully the career of his uncle, Lionel Jeffries.

Speaker 3 And he was a black studies racist professor at San Jose State for years, and maybe two or three years ago. The Kwanzaa guy? What? Was he the Kwanzaa guy? No, he was the ICE people and

Speaker 3 Sun people.

Speaker 3 And he even didn't think of that. He expropriated it from another scholar.
But he was a big guy. He went after Mary Lefkowitz

Speaker 3 when she wrote Not Out of Africa. But his big theory was that

Speaker 3 black people are much more sensitive because of their skin color and

Speaker 3 the nourishing value of sun from Africa and the cold, mean, heartless, barbaric people from Northern Europe or ICE people.

Speaker 3 And he was fired, I think, from NYU. I don't know if they gave him some money, and then he took it, and then he came back, and he lost it.

Speaker 3 I don't know what it was, but he was an out-and-out, inveterate racist.

Speaker 3 And when Hikeem Jeffries was young, he was kind of bought in that for a while. So he was from a very radical background, and then everybody loved him because he was the, as you say, the dime store,

Speaker 3 dollar store Obama. He was very well-spoken, we were told.
He was a young, handsome guy.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 he was just a complete empty suit. He's just a complete...
There have been three iconic interviews, I was thinking that right now, when

Speaker 3 three democratic leaders were asked questions.

Speaker 3 And the first was Tim Waltz, and he was talking about Nazis and fascists running the country. Of course, they always say that.
And I don't know why the interviews don't say them.

Speaker 3 What Nazi? I need the name of the Nazi, and I need the fascist, and I need the evidence that he is a Nazi, instead of just saying Nazi's fascist, Nazis fascist.

Speaker 3 I don't think that Chris Matthews knows anything about the biography of Mussolini, nothing at all, and what fascism was.

Speaker 3 He just,

Speaker 3 you know, he just spouted off a bunch of stuff. But Tim Waltz was asked,

Speaker 3 who leads the Democratic Party? Did you see him?

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 the people.

Speaker 3 No, who's the leader?

Speaker 3 He couldn't answer. So then they asked Hakeem Jeffries

Speaker 3 about,

Speaker 3 well, the second one was Gavin Newsom. He had that Charlie Kirk interview.
Now he has a podcast. He's inviting so-called conservatives to debate him.
And Charlie Kirk just said,

Speaker 3 how can your party vote overwhelmingly to let biological males destroy women's sports?

Speaker 3 And he said, that's not right. We got killed on that issue.
And then Charlie just said, well, why don't you do something about it?

Speaker 3 Your state is refusing to abide by NCAA rules and the Trump executive order. And he didn't say anything.
So it was just empty verbiage.

Speaker 3 It was like, well, I know I have to say this because I'm trying to repackage and recalibrate myself to run for president, and that's a losing 80-20 issue.

Speaker 3 But on the other hand, if I sell out my base, I got the Antifa, BLM, Hamas group, and they'll swarm my house.

Speaker 3 They'll hit me up and shout me down. So and then I got the teachers' unions and the federal employee unions and I just don't want to do it, so I'll just sound off.

Speaker 3 And so he and then when they ask Hikeem Jeffries about that, well,

Speaker 3 he just said and they asked him specifically, what is your

Speaker 3 what is your position about

Speaker 3 biological males going into locker rooms with young girls, underage girls who are changing swimming or sports.

Speaker 3 We don't

Speaker 3 support sexual predation, sexual predators.

Speaker 3 What did that mean?

Speaker 3 Are you saying that

Speaker 3 the trans people that you're defending are sexual predators?

Speaker 3 He's just clueless, you know. And you look at Nancy Pelosi, you know,

Speaker 3 she just sits back there and goes, I did all of these dastardly things to get advantage from my party.

Speaker 3 I was willing to lie, I was willing to break the rules, I was willing to kick people off committees that had never been kicked off before, the minority nominations.

Speaker 3 I rigged the January 6th, I used that, I used, did everything I could for 20 years. And this guy comes in and he takes my place as

Speaker 3 minority leader and

Speaker 3 he'll be the speaker and he'll destroy everything I've done because he's a total incompetent. He is a total

Speaker 3 Corey Booker 2.0.

Speaker 3 Chuck Schumer

Speaker 3 is degrading quickly also from the great man of politics he was supposed to be. Yeah,

Speaker 3 he'll never get over. Kavanaugh,

Speaker 3 Gorsuch,

Speaker 3 you sowed the wind. You're going to reap the whirlwind.
You won't know what hit you.

Speaker 3 And he never really got over there. Threatening two Supreme Court judges at the head of a mob outside the doors of the court.

Speaker 3 If anybody else had done that, if a Republican, if Ted Cruz had said that to,

Speaker 3 you know, Kagan or...

Speaker 3 Anybody,

Speaker 3 Konji Brown, Kagan, you won't know what's gonna hit you with a bunch of crazy MAGA people outside the Supreme Court. You would have had the FBI arrest everybody in two seconds.

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Speaker 3 Victor, I want to pick up again on Nicole Wallace, if you don't mind what she said in response to President Trump's speech

Speaker 3 while she was saying her truly rancid thing, who was sitting there? Michael Steele and Jen Psaki, and they just sat there and didn't say peep, as far as I could see on any videos.

Speaker 3 And I'm not, I'm, of course, more than embarrassed for Nicole Wallace, but much more so too for the former head of the Republican Party, Michael Steele. I was never fond of him.

Speaker 3 I always thought he was a mediocrity and an opportunist.

Speaker 3 I think he was the - that was after the Obama election, and the Republican rhinos thought

Speaker 3 Rush Limbaugh is all through.

Speaker 3 That conservative wing is over with. It's the new Obama age.
We need to get a black conservative version of Obama. And that's why Michael Steele was picked.

Speaker 3 But he had never had any success much higher.

Speaker 3 What was the highest office that he had run for?

Speaker 3 He ran for Senate.

Speaker 3 And was he a lieutenant governor? Yes. Yeah, but he never was governor.
And

Speaker 3 he just was an opportunist. As soon as he saw that the media and where the money was to be on cable news was anti-Trump, he just flipped.

Speaker 3 And so there was even a worse thing

Speaker 3 where

Speaker 3 it was Michael Steele.

Speaker 3 And the woman, African-American woman, Simone, you remember her, that heavyset Simone Sandra, is that her name? She was an advisor to Camilla Harris at one point. And they were bragging,

Speaker 3 especially Simone, about Elon Musk. They were cheering on the fact that his latest rocket blew up on the air.
She was giggling, giggling. And then Michael Steele got a little embarrassed.

Speaker 3 He said, well, okay, that's enough. And then he said, but this is a reminder, Elon, maybe you should go back to what you're good at and clean up your mess before you get you know

Speaker 3 get out of town, get out of Doge. But the idea that a major person on a network anchor would start to celebrate and giggle

Speaker 3 the explosion of a rocket, especially when we're in the process of trying to use that type of technology and rocketry to save three people who this week we learned one of them just basically said they abandoned us that we wanted to we had a SpaceX rocket and we had that it was docked we wanted to go home we had complete confidence and and Biden didn't want to do it for political reasons ie

Speaker 3 by uh Musk had joined the Trump campaign and was funding

Speaker 3 anti-Biden, anti-Harris things in Pennsylvania, and he thought this would make Elon Musk look too too good so you can't get on that so they're stuck they were stuck there for

Speaker 3 it's almost going to be a year isn't it it's just beyond twisted that that that would happen

Speaker 3 that they would do that yeah and

Speaker 3 it's it's pretty sick

Speaker 3 well Victor well let's get one more thought because we have want to get

Speaker 3 a little truncated today so you can

Speaker 3 you can recover and don't want to wear you out totally. We want to get your thoughts about the Ukraine war and some of the fables you've written about.
But before we do that, we can take a break.

Speaker 3 Any thought about the Al Green censure that only

Speaker 3 10 Democrats voted for,

Speaker 3 voted for it?

Speaker 3 I just think that the age of decorum is over. I give credit for

Speaker 3 it.

Speaker 3 I've been in three different districts, you know, because my farm here where I'm speaking from is on a tri-corner of three different congressional districts.

Speaker 3 Sometimes I was in Nunez, sometimes I was in David Valdeo, sometimes I was in Jim Costas. I'm in Jim Costas again.
And I give him credit, he voted to censor as a Democrat.

Speaker 3 And there was only 10.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 if you don't censor him for that,

Speaker 3 at some point,

Speaker 3 I don't know, I think they need to just get rid of all of these ethnic

Speaker 3 racial essentialism caucuses. This is 65 years after civil rights, and there are a lot of African-American conservatives.
There's an increasing number of Hispanic conservatives.

Speaker 3 If they're going to keep these race-based caucuses,

Speaker 3 then they at least need to say they're left-wing.

Speaker 3 They can say the socialist African-American caucus, the

Speaker 3 I don't know, the Jacobin La Raza Caucus. But the idea that they're representing a community,

Speaker 3 it's not accurate. And to the degree it is accurate, it just divides people.
So you have Bowman of the Black Caucus, and they all rallied around him. Remember,

Speaker 3 they censored him when he let off the

Speaker 3 fire alarm, Black Caucus protected him.

Speaker 3 And then you had...

Speaker 3 Same thing with Al Green, and everybody said it was racist.

Speaker 3 Al Green himself said it was racist. They were going after him.

Speaker 3 And so the problem is that anytime you get an exemption for any reason,

Speaker 3 ideology, gender, sexual orientation, ethnic background, nepotism, race,

Speaker 3 the problem with human nature is that once you tell somebody,

Speaker 3 you can do what you want because your dad is the boss. Or you can do what you want because your family is very wealthy.
Or you can do what you want because we're afraid to be called racist by you.

Speaker 3 or you can do what you want or we're afraid that you'll say I'm homophobic or you can do what I want what you want I'm afraid you'll call me misogynistic then that person has got a blank check and it doesn't help them any because there's no deterrence left and so that and so that's the same thing with Jasmine Crockett she says to herself

Speaker 3 well

Speaker 3 Bowman's gone and the squad has kind of ran out of gas. AOC looks very lethargic lately, you know, like she's been reaching early middle age or something.

Speaker 3 And is she married now or she's engaged or something?

Speaker 3 She just

Speaker 3 her heart is not in it anymore.

Speaker 3 And Rashid Talib got a cause that 75% of Americans don't like, the pro-Hamaskar.

Speaker 3 And Bowman is getting kicked out. And this Jasmine Crockett from Texas thinks she's the new squad firebrand.

Speaker 3 And she says these ridiculous things and tries to get in a fight with Marjorie Taylor Greene back and forth.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 all these caucuses just turn people off. They really do.
Yeah. They really do.
Remember that the

Speaker 3 Hispanic, the Mexican-American woman who won that special election on the Texas border? Yes. And she was, I think she was not allowed into the Hispanic caucus, even though she was a Republican.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 They should brand themselves with what they really, really are.

Speaker 3 I mean, I don't know what it means either in our multiracial society.

Speaker 3 Well, they also have related foundations, Victor, which turn into - and we know how foundations are used now, you know, to raise money and then to blind pockets of friends.

Speaker 3 So these caucuses, like the Black Caucus, has a Black Caucus Foundation.

Speaker 3 It's become a racket on top of just being it has, but

Speaker 3 what makes you black? Do you have to use the one-drop rule from the old Confederacy?

Speaker 3 Obama was, I mean, when Obama was 18, his name was Barry Sotero, and he was considered an Indonesian dual citizen, I think, for a while.

Speaker 3 And he was raised by, he was half white, and he was raised by white parents. And then he reasserted his other half, which is, and changed his name or reverted to his original name.

Speaker 3 My point is that once you get into this racial essentialism,

Speaker 3 you have to have rules about what makes you a particular race. And so, how many people in the Hispanic caucuses are not completely Mexican-American or Cuban? Are they

Speaker 3 intermarried? They're maybe one-quarter, one-third, one-eighth. And people say, well, Victor, it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 3 That's the point.

Speaker 3 It doesn't really matter how much you are of something.

Speaker 3 Unless you want to do what

Speaker 3 Elizabeth Warren, that

Speaker 3 identity is like gender, transgender. You can assert and create your own gender.
Right.

Speaker 3 And therefore, you can be Pocahontas. You can say, I am

Speaker 3 Native American, and I want to be the first Native American professor of law at Harvard. And if you can say that I'm now trans and

Speaker 3 I was a man yesterday, today I'm a woman, then why can't Elizabeth Warren say, yesterday I was a Oklahoma lily white woman with blonde hair, and today I'm Native American.

Speaker 3 It's those

Speaker 3 high cheekbones, Victor.

Speaker 3 They win every time. And then there's a cruel law, isn't there, of human nature and the laws of the universe that correct all this and cannot be tampered with by humans.
And by that I mean

Speaker 3 no biological,

Speaker 3 no biological woman

Speaker 3 says, I'm

Speaker 3 transitioning to be a man and I want to compete in the Olympic discus competition.

Speaker 3 I am transitioning, and I can, now that I am a complete biological man, and you people who use the word biological, it's wrong. I am male in any way, and I'm going to go out for the NFL.

Speaker 3 Or I'm going to be a high school

Speaker 3 high jumper and break all the records and destroy men's records. Never, not one.

Speaker 3 Why is that?

Speaker 3 Why is that?

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 that's what they don't understand. That there's certain laws that say this, this, this, this, this.

Speaker 3 And the same thing it is with

Speaker 3 race.

Speaker 3 You can't just assert yourself and say that you're Native American. But my point is this, on race.

Speaker 3 Do you have people who in the 19

Speaker 3 Do you have people who are light-skinned African Americans who claim they're not African Americans and they're white? We used to.

Speaker 3 It was called Passing. There was a movie called Pinky, remember that? And it was because we were in parts of this country racist.

Speaker 3 And if you were African American, that's what the human stain was about. Remember? With Anthony Hopkins, he was part black in that movie.
He didn't even acknowledge it. But the point I'm making is

Speaker 3 people react to where the benefits are and where the opportunities are.

Speaker 3 So now it behooves you to assentuate, if you're of mixed heritage, that you are completely one race, because that means you are a part of the Marxist binary victim class and not the victimizer, which is reserved for white people.

Speaker 3 But 40 years ago, the so-called white class was where the privilege was. And so anybody wanted to trans naturally, if they could, would say they were white and they massed their minority.

Speaker 3 I'm not justifying or defending any of this.

Speaker 3 I'm just saying that whatever the situation is where there is advantages, people make the necessary adjustments, whether it's gender, sexual orientation, or race, which makes the whole thing ridiculous.

Speaker 3 And if we could just say, you know what?

Speaker 3 You don't have to identify by your sexual orientation, your sexual, your gender. You don't have to say, I'm a Latina every time you take a class.

Speaker 3 You don't have to say, well, as a black man, or, you know, I mean, You just don't want to do that anymore. It's redundant.

Speaker 3 We don't need it anymore.

Speaker 3 And I think the country is ready for that.

Speaker 3 Amen, my friend. Well, we're going to

Speaker 3 come around the home stretch, the turn, whatever it is, final turn into the home stretch. I haven't been to a racetrack in a long time.
You'll forgive me.

Speaker 3 And we're going to get your views, Victor, on this column you've written about, hard truths behind Trump-Ukraine tales. We're going to do that when we come back from these final important messages.

Speaker 3 We're back with the Victor Davis-Hansen show

Speaker 3 recording on March 10th. This shows up on the 11th.
I'm here with the indestructible Victor Davis-Hansen. I don't know if that's...

Speaker 3 If that's an attribute, Victor. I guess it is of the alternatives.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you wrote this column. This is your syndicated column.
I'm looking at today's New York Post. I'm not sure if it's your syndicated column.
Maybe they took it from Ultra.

Speaker 3 But anyway, you have five fables

Speaker 3 about the

Speaker 3 Ukraine war and Trump. And would you share one or two of these fables, Victor? Trade war,

Speaker 3 negotiating with Putin is selling out. That's one of the fables.
Oh, yeah. How about that? Negotiating

Speaker 3 selling out. Who started the idea? Mike Mike McFaul, my colleague, has an article in The Atlantic about Putin.

Speaker 3 But who created it and who appeased him and who didn't and all that? Who was the person who dreamed up the idea of Russian reset?

Speaker 3 If I remember,

Speaker 3 it was Barack Obama and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, and the people that were the ambassador to Russia and others. And why did they do this? Because they felt that cowboy George W.

Speaker 3 Bush had been too cruel and mean to Russia. And they were sensitive to Russia.
And they knew that deep down inside Putin, he wanted to be a Western Eurocentric technocrat.

Speaker 3 And they were going to reset that now that

Speaker 3 Bush had sanctioned Putin for going into Ossatia and Georgia in 2008.

Speaker 3 So Obama came in and was like, well, I'm so charismatic that everybody loves me, and I can just charm a hilly, go over there and charm Vladimir and get a jacuzzi button out of some spa and push it.

Speaker 3 And then that'll be reset. And we'll just trash Bush for being hard on poor Vladimir.
And that's what it was. And

Speaker 3 it was appeasement, appeasement, appeasement. And it had many manifestations, everybody.
One of them was

Speaker 3 the Russians had been out of the Middle East for 40 years. Henry Kissinger got them out.
He

Speaker 3 sabotaged them, and right after the Yom Kippur War in 74, early 74, he got the Egyptians as American clients. And

Speaker 3 they kicked out the Soviets. And the Soviets had nowhere to go.
They had one client. Syria, but

Speaker 3 they couldn't even get it near there. They were impotent.
And then in 2011, 2011, John Kerry, remember,

Speaker 3 asked the Soviet foreign minister if he could come in and help the United States deal with FS

Speaker 3 Bashir El-Assad's WMD. Remember?

Speaker 3 I think it was Susan Rice said, well, we got rid of it. Yeah, it's gone.
The Russians came in and we invited them, and we both got rid of it. They didn't.
He used it after that.

Speaker 3 But they were the ones that were bringing the Russians into the Middle East. They were the ones that were were trashing Bush as being too hard on.
And then we had the famous March,

Speaker 3 what was it, March 20,

Speaker 3 20th, 2012 in Seoul, South Korea. Obama's talking to then President Medeved.
He was the interim between Putin 1.0 and 2.0, and he said he thought no one was listening, so he was on a mic.

Speaker 3 This is hot now, so it was something similar. And he said,

Speaker 3 tell Valomir Vladimir that this is my last election. And if you'll give me space, he's got to give me space in my last election, and I'll be flexible on missile defense.
Okay?

Speaker 3 My last election. And translated that meant, I will sell out U.S.

Speaker 3 plans with the Czech Republic and Poland to create a missile defense, protect us maybe from Middle East missiles, Iran, but also maybe Russia.

Speaker 3 If

Speaker 3 you tell him to stay within his borders and not try something like he did in Georgia, at at least until I'm elected. After 2012,

Speaker 3 it's my last election.

Speaker 3 I need space. And so what happened? They both kept their bargain, everybody.
We got rid of space, I mean, missile defense in Eastern Europe. And Putin

Speaker 3 did not invade until Obama was elected. And then he, 18 months later, he went right into

Speaker 3 Crimea, Donbass, and Crimea and Donbass.

Speaker 3 That was reset. That was reset.
And there were other elements of reset from the Obama administration. One was not to sell Ukraine any

Speaker 3 offensive weapons. They had the worst of both worlds.
They would not arm Ukraine to protect them from the Russians, but they interfered in the 2014 election.

Speaker 3 I'm not saying that Viktor Jan Ukovich, whatever his name is, was not a Russian pro-Russian.

Speaker 3 I mean, he obviously was, but they did help organize mass, they being Victoria Newland, the Obama State Department. It's not a conspiracy theory.
They did really want him out.

Speaker 3 And they were high-fiving. They got Viktor Prashenko in there, and then eventually Zelensky.

Speaker 3 Well, that was Russian reset, and it was all based on the idea they could charm Vladimir Putin, and they were not right-wing, odious ogres like.

Speaker 3 And it blew up in their face.

Speaker 3 It blew up in their face. So then Trump came in,

Speaker 3 and first thing we know, they're impeaching him

Speaker 3 after the Mueller, Mueller, Mueller's steel dossier, steel dossier, Russian colloquium. And then it fails.
They thought, what's next? Oh, we'll impeach him for a phone call. And Mr.
Vinman,

Speaker 3 who now I think is an arms dealer, isn't he, Jack? He has a non-profit, and he facilitates arms transfers from the United States. to his native land.

Speaker 3 He was the one that broke protocol, disclosed a classified

Speaker 3 call to Mr. Sarah Mella, the so-called whistleblower, and we were off to the races with impeachment.
But the point I'm making with all this is Reset, Reset, Reset was a left-wing Obama-Clinton idea.

Speaker 3 Trump came in.

Speaker 3 I know he said all these things that he could get along and Putin liked him and all that, but you look at what he did and not what he said.

Speaker 3 He started giving them javelins. They did not go go anywhere under Trump's tenure.
They stayed within their borders. Why?

Speaker 3 Well, you can argue, but it was pretty much they thought Trump was crazy or unpredictable and it was stupid to take a chance by going in again to Ukraine.

Speaker 3 He killed, I don't know what he killed, what? Two or three hundred of the Wagner group in Syria. They gave Trump a call, said, we're being attacked.
And he said, get rid of them.

Speaker 3 Killed more Russians than anybody during the entire Cold Cold War. And then

Speaker 3 he upped sanctions on the oligarchs, and he got out of the asymmetrical missile deal. There's that famous conversation where he's sitting across from the Eurocrats.

Speaker 3 Remember that, Jack, where he says, and you guys are really crazy. You're getting to a situation where one day you're going to be entirely dependent on Russian gas and energy.
And they're going,

Speaker 3 look at him. Look at Trump.
Look at that stupid American. He doesn't know anything about us.
And then that's exactly what happened. He warned him not to.

Speaker 3 So my point of that thing was that Donald Trump was the hardest on Russia of any of the last four administrations.

Speaker 3 And as far as dealing with Putin, you can't deal with Putin. You can't deal with Putin.
You can't deal with Stalin. Stalin killed 20 million people.
FDR said to Churchill at Yalta,

Speaker 3 I think you better let me talk.

Speaker 3 Stalin doesn't like you, Winston. He likes me, Uncle Joe.
He likes me. So I'll deal with Uncle Joe.

Speaker 3 And the Navastu's history wasn't too good,

Speaker 3 the deal that he figured out with Uncle Joe. We dealt with

Speaker 3 Nixon, went to China and dealt with the biggest mass murder in the history of civilization, Mao Zedong, 70 million people killed. Franco was, he probably killed three or 30 or 40,000

Speaker 3 in jails and detentions over his career, and we negotiated with him all during the Cold War, and even though he was not democratic, Spain became a NATO member. That was considered fine.

Speaker 3 Right during, after the fall of France, for a brief naive moment, Churchill thought he could

Speaker 3 he didn't want to, but he let people, Halifax, talk to Mussolini. They thought Mussolini would cut him a deal.
It happens all the time. And I won't even get into Castro.

Speaker 3 So many left-wing politicians have thought they could charm Fidel Castro into

Speaker 3 becoming our friend. So

Speaker 3 it's just absurd. It really is

Speaker 3 what the left is saying right now. And I think he'll get a deal one way or the other.
I think my only criticism of him was

Speaker 3 I didn't mind him saying they're not going to be a NATO. They're never going to be a NATO, so why lie about it as if it's a card?

Speaker 3 But I would say that

Speaker 3 you've got to pressure both sides. And

Speaker 3 he allowed the left to say about Trump that he was pro-Putin and anti-Zelensky. And Putin now is killing more people than usual.
He's accelerating because he thinks there's going to be a peace.

Speaker 3 So Trump has had to come out and say, I'm going to sanction you if you continue to do that. And that's good.

Speaker 3 As long as he pivots and tells Russia, if you think you're going to take advantage of my magnanimity, then you've got another thought coming.

Speaker 3 And I think he can get a deal once the Ukrainians realize that he's tough on Putin as well.

Speaker 3 Well, you will find this column we've just been referring to on Victor's website, The Blade of Perseus. So I want to recommend folks check it out.

Speaker 3 Victor, I think we've tortured you enough today, but actually, actually,

Speaker 3 the last time we spoke, we end the show by reading comments that our listeners send in. One was about health.

Speaker 3 One was about from a lady who liked the longer podcast because she exercises more while she's listening. And

Speaker 3 two people wrote similar, and I'm going to share them. And these are from

Speaker 3 the Blade of Perseus. By the way, folks who listen on Apple, and so many people do, you can rate the show zero to five stars.
Thousands of you have. Thank you.
Victor's got a 4.9 out of 5.

Speaker 3 People leave comments. We read them too and read them.
All the comments. Thanks for taking the time and effort to do that.
So, here are two comments, though, from your website.

Speaker 3 One's from John Wheeler, who writes, I thought I would report that I'm also on the VDH Fitness Bandwagon.

Speaker 3 The podcast usually lasts about an hour and 10 minutes, so I've up my time when I lift weights from 50 minutes to whenever Jack or Samurai or Victor say goodbye.

Speaker 3 I had the pleasure of meeting Victor at a Hillsdale function some years ago, and I've become an avid fan, listener, and reader of his books and columns. And he's keeping my 72-year-old body fit.

Speaker 3 And then the other is: Victor, you need a 72-year-old fit body. I'm a 71-year-old.
Apparently, whatever I'm trying to do to get over the flu is not working. Well, you better get to 72.

Speaker 3 I need to get, maybe he can give me an advice. How do you get over influenza A within five days?

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 there's a, you got to find the patron saint of influenza. Then there's James Higgins, who writes, I haven't had a chance yet to see Victor's headwear on the video version of his podcast.

Speaker 3 I generally listen while I'm walking my dog. He's pokey, likes to frequently sit and watch for cars.
I don't mind because I'm listening to Victor, Jack, and Sammy.

Speaker 3 The longer the walk takes, the longer I can enjoy listening to Victor's judicious commentary, entertaining

Speaker 3 impersonations, and fascinating stories from his past. Thanks, Victor.
Thanks, James. Thanks, John.
Thank you. I want to thank folks who write me.

Speaker 3 I get a lot of emails now from folks who have taken the time and are enjoying Civil Thoughts. That's a free weekly email newsletter I write for the Center for Civil Society.

Speaker 3 It has 14 recommended readings, great pieces I've come across the previous week.

Speaker 3 Go to civilthoughts.com, sign up. It's free, no strings attached, not selling your name.
So thanks for those who do that. Victor, you've survived.
I did. Thank you.
Just one last comment about

Speaker 3 impersonations. My father, when he would try to get us up when we were like 10 years old on the way to school, it was during the Cuban Missile Classis.

Speaker 3 Then afterwards, everybody had remembered Kennedy.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 he'd say two things. One was Dwight Eisenhower.
who'd said in 1960, get up and get out and vote for Dick Nixon.

Speaker 3 He'd say that to us to yell us, to get us awake. And the other one, he'd go, You can't have missiles in Cuba.
You can't have missiles in Cuba.

Speaker 3 That was JFK.

Speaker 3 Do you remember he used to say Cuba? Cuba, yeah. Cuba.
Cuba. Okay, yeah.
All right, Victor, thanks. Thanks, everybody.
We'll be back with another episode of the

Speaker 3 show. Bye-bye.