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Speaker 5 The hair on the back of the cook's neck stood up.

Speaker 6 It felt like he was being watched.

Speaker 7 He turned around.

Speaker 8 Nothing.

Speaker 9 It was Nellis Air Force Base in the middle of the night.

Speaker 7 The mess hall was empty.

Speaker 10 All the men were asleep in the barracks.

Speaker 4 The only people awake were him and a couple of guards at the front gate.

Speaker 12 The only reason he was up was to grab a little extra chow.

Speaker 14 One of the perks of being a cook, you get the keys to the kitchen.

Speaker 4 Then he heard rustling.

Speaker 15 He turned and something flashed in the corner of his eye.

Speaker 4 Something small and white, and it moved fast.

Speaker 18 A door quietly squealed open.

Speaker 19 Then he heard steps running into the desert. He caught glimpses of something white darting through the brush.

Speaker 14 He thought it was too big to be a rat, but maybe a coyote?

Speaker 21 He wasn't sure.

Speaker 4 Whatever it was, he didn't want it rooting around his kitchen.

Speaker 20 He picked up a rock and threw it toward the noise.

Speaker 23 Then he heard a whimper.

Speaker 19 As he reached his arm back for another throw, he felt a hot pain shoot through his body.

Speaker 23 He dropped the rock.

Speaker 10 He was paralyzed by pain and by fear.

Speaker 7 Then he heard a woman's voice from inside his own mind.

Speaker 27 She said, stop or die.

Speaker 4 The pain dissipated.

Speaker 7 As soon as he could move, he bolted back inside the kitchen.

Speaker 11 He locked the door behind him, terrified.

Speaker 21 He had no idea where the voice came from, but he knew one thing for sure.

Speaker 3 It wasn't human.

Speaker 31 Did you meet the extraterrestrials or merely see them?

Speaker 32 Oh, I met them many times, as I described in my books.

Speaker 32 Although I never went looking for them, they were always happy to come looking for me.

Speaker 32 They were always happy to come looking for me.

Speaker 23 It was March 1965 when Charles Hall arrived at Nellis Air Force Base in the Nevada Desert.

Speaker 18 He was fresh out of basic and excited excited to see his new post.

Speaker 36 When the Air Force tested Charles, he showed an aptitude for math and science.

Speaker 18 After graduating top of his class, he thought he could choose his own post, but he was specifically sent to Nellis.

Speaker 37 Area 51!

Speaker 20 Well, Area 51 is officially a detachment of Edwards Air Force Base, but yes, it's in the same area.

Speaker 40 Charles was trained as a weather observer.

Speaker 4 His job was to travel around the base taking readings.

Speaker 7 Most men would be bored to tears with this assignment, but Charles didn't mind.

Speaker 10 He'd get his own truck, extra pay, no officers breathing down his neck, and he liked the quiet of the desert.

Speaker 41 If he needed to blow off some steam, Las Vegas was close by.

Speaker 30 Plus, Charles had a friend on base.

Speaker 36 His buddy Dwight recommended him for the job.

Speaker 11 Charles was grateful for the opportunity.

Speaker 20 That night after he settled in, Charles and Dwight got to talking. They chatted about the base, how bad the food was, which officers were good guys, which ones to avoid, typical soldier talk.

Speaker 11 Then suddenly, Dwight got very serious.

Speaker 42 Look, Charlie, summer's coming. You have to keep your eye out for Range 4 Harry.

Speaker 42 Old Harry likes it hot. He hides in the mountains during the winter.
But once it warms up, he comes down to Indian Springs. He likes to run around on the dry lake bed up on Range 4.

Speaker 42 When you're up there, be careful.

Speaker 10 Range 4 Harry?

Speaker 21 Charles had no idea what Dwight was talking about.

Speaker 35 He asked if this was some hermit who hid in the mountains.

Speaker 11 Well, that's what Charles thought.

Speaker 47 Dwight frowned and shook his head.

Speaker 8 Then he told Charlie the story of Range 4 Harry.

Speaker 42 Back in 54, there was an atomic bomb test over at Frenchman Flats. Harry is a horse who came too close to the blast.
Not close enough to be vaporized, but close enough that something happened to him.

Speaker 42 Now, he gives off a white glow. If you see him, do not approach Range 4 Harry, and don't look at his face.
He's not like a normal horse.

Speaker 42 Officers say he's more human-like, with large blue eyes and a long white tail.

Speaker 6 Charles stared at Dwight for a long moment, then exploded into laughter.

Speaker 5 He expected some kind of hazing at his new post, and he figured Range 4 Harry was supposed to spook the new guy, but he wasn't falling for it.

Speaker 42 I'm serious, Charlie. While you're at range four, don't take any risks.
The last guy who got too close to Harry was John Zimmerman. I don't want you to end up like him.

Speaker 7 Charles laughed and promised to be careful.

Speaker 19 Still, he wasn't buying any of this nonsense.

Speaker 10 The next day, Charles was in the infirmary's waiting room.

Speaker 34 He needed a routine physical before going out into the field.

Speaker 7 The nurse on duty caught him chuckling to himself.

Speaker 21 She asked what was so funny.

Speaker 47 Charles recounted Dwayne's Range 4 Harry story and the fate of John Zimmerman.

Speaker 52 The nurse's face dropped.

Speaker 18 She said, I'll be right back.

Speaker 49 Charles heard her opening and closing a metal cabinet.

Speaker 5 When she returned, she said, I'm not supposed to show you this, but since you're going to Range 4, you need to know what's out there.

Speaker 9 It was Zimmerman's medical folder.

Speaker 36 Inside were four pictures.

Speaker 4 Each of them showed a man covered in horrible radiation burns.

Speaker 10 Zimmerman said a white horse came out of the North Range and charged him, but that was all he could remember.

Speaker 10 He somehow dragged himself back to Indian Springs, where an officer found him barely alive and in absolute agony.

Speaker 4 Charles' stomach sank.

Speaker 3 It wasn't a joke.

Speaker 10 Range for Harry was real.

Speaker 47 Charles finally met Sullivan, the man he'd be replacing.

Speaker 19 Sully was friendly, funny, and likable.

Speaker 36 The two men hit it off right away.

Speaker 20 Sully took Charles on a tour of a few weather shacks out in the ranges.

Speaker 6 One of the shacks was locked, so they couldn't access the equipment to take their readings.

Speaker 20 Sully told Charles to just write down any numbers.

Speaker 46 Yeah, government precision.

Speaker 34 Well, Charles reminded Sully that they only checked out three weather shacks.

Speaker 10 There were still four more, range one, two, three, and four.

Speaker 19 Sully's demeanor changed immediately.

Speaker 12 He said he'd take Charles to the other weather stations, all except range four.

Speaker 6 When they got to range one, Sully wouldn't leave the truck.

Speaker 27 He was terrified.

Speaker 14 He told Charles if he wanted to check out the weather shack, he'd have to go on his own.

Speaker 18 Sully said he'd keep a lookout and if he saw anything, he'd go back to base for help.

Speaker 34 He told Charles, if you hear me leave, lock yourself in the shack and wait.

Speaker 23 I'll come back for you.

Speaker 5 Well, Charles asked if Sully was talking about range for Harry, and Sullivan snapped at him and said there's no such thing.

Speaker 6 But Sully would not get out of the jeep. He wouldn't even take his hands off the wheel.

Speaker 14 He was squeezing the steering wheel so tightly that his knuckles were white.

Speaker 19 This was not the same man Charles met just a few hours earlier.

Speaker 20 When Charles got to the weather shack, he checked the equipment and logbook.

Speaker 4 Nobody had been there for months. Sully had been secretly going off base and faking the numbers.

Speaker 34 He never stepped foot in those weather shacks.

Speaker 36 When Charles returned to the Jeep, he confirmed that Sully had been lying about the numbers.

Speaker 50 Sullivan didn't care.

Speaker 12 He said he'd give Charles a tour and never wanted to go to the ranges again.

Speaker 53 Pretty soon, Charles would understand why.

Speaker 5 Over the next few months, Charles spent more time on the ranges at Indian Springs than anyone else.

Speaker 19 Against advice, he was usually out there alone, but he enjoyed it.

Speaker 36 It was peaceful, and he never saw a range for Harry.

Speaker 47 One day, Charles was out on the range, and it was especially hot.

Speaker 33 In the desert, the ground could reach 120 or 130 degrees, and today it felt even hotter than that.

Speaker 10 Charles spent most of the day in the weather shack.

Speaker 7 He didn't have air conditioning, but he had an old fan, and that was good enough.

Speaker 21 Besides, the sun was setting, and soon it would go from blistering hot to freezing cold.

Speaker 6 That was life in the desert. Feet up on the desk, Charles daydreamed as he gazed into the desert, watching the sky go from deep blue to orange to red.

Speaker 15 There was no sound except the songs of meadowlarks.

Speaker 53 Charles wondered to himself if meadowlarks were common in the desert.

Speaker 49 He didn't think so, but whatever birds they were, he enjoyed the sound.

Speaker 50 Then he saw something dart between the sagebrush.

Speaker 4 Charles blinked.

Speaker 14 There it was again.

Speaker 23 He assumed it was a large rabbit or a coyote, but it was covered in brilliant white fur.

Speaker 6 The more he focused, the more he realized it was moving erratically through the maze of sagebrush like it was in distress.

Speaker 33 Charles jumped out of his chair and threw open the door of the shack.

Speaker 12 Then he saw it.

Speaker 9 It wasn't a rabbit or a coyote.

Speaker 38 It was a child.

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Speaker 78 Describe them.

Speaker 73 I know we have an animated picture of what they look like on the website.

Speaker 78 Kind of describe the tall whites for us. Well, the one that Paula has on her website is a very good rendition of a particular tall white lady.

Speaker 78 Each one of them are individuals, like the people, say, in New York City, but they were generally throughout much of their adult life.

Speaker 32 They were about the same height as me, 5'11, 6 feet.

Speaker 32 They were very thin and frail. They had skin as white as a piece of paper.

Speaker 32 What I do know about them is that they come from a planet that's somewhat hotter than the Earth and somewhat larger than the Earth, and they spend, and they naturally live underground.

Speaker 20 The girl was barely three feet tall and her skin was chalk white.

Speaker 21 She wore a silver jumpsuit and boots and her hair was brilliant white blonde.

Speaker 18 Behind her bright blue eyes, she looked as terrified as Charles.

Speaker 5 She was tangled in the brush.

Speaker 23 He called out to her.

Speaker 12 He said there's no reason to be afraid.

Speaker 21 He wasn't going to hurt her.

Speaker 18 He cleared the sagebrush around her so she could easily get out, but he made himself clear that he wouldn't touch her.

Speaker 6 On a nearby fence post, he left a canteen of water.

Speaker 18 He said if she was lost, he would help her. All she had to do was ask.

Speaker 8 Charles turned back toward the shack.

Speaker 36 That's when he heard something crashing through the brush.

Speaker 34 It was big, and it was moving fast, and it was getting closer.

Speaker 23 Charles turned and saw something.

Speaker 7 A man.

Speaker 21 A very tall man.

Speaker 19 He had the same features as the little girl, pale skin, white hair, hair, silver suit, and he was charging right at Charles.

Speaker 56 The sounds of the meadowlarks now became screeches.

Speaker 33 The peaceful desert had become chaos.

Speaker 21 Charles jumped back in the weather shack and barricaded the door.

Speaker 36 Did he just see range for Harry?

Speaker 18 Charles wasn't sure, but he was sure that these people weren't human.

Speaker 34 Charles waited for what felt like hours.

Speaker 18 It was the middle of the night and the desert was pitch black.

Speaker 37 The songbirds and the screeching screeching had finally stopped.

Speaker 47 The only sound was a gentle rustling of wind through the brush.

Speaker 39 Charles gathered his nerves and left the shack.

Speaker 7 He checked his canteen.

Speaker 39 It was half empty.

Speaker 12 In the sand, he saw three sets of footprints, a child and two adults.

Speaker 39 Someone was there.

Speaker 8 Charles had seen enough. He scrambled to his jeep, fired up the engine, and tore tore down the dirt road heading back to base.

Speaker 36 No more than a few minutes passed when Charles got another shock.

Speaker 34 Standing in the brush next to the road was an extremely tall woman, well over six feet tall.

Speaker 39 And like the child and the other entity, she had skin as white as chalk. Her hair was shimmering silver.

Speaker 50 She seemed to glow in the dark.

Speaker 5 Charles felt panic welling up when a feeling of calm suddenly washed over him.

Speaker 7 As he passed the tall woman, he could hear her in his mind.

Speaker 10 Telepathically, she thanked him for helping her daughter.

Speaker 5 Again, Charles felt his fear rising, but once again, there was calm.

Speaker 14 The woman, if that's what she was, was radiating peaceful energy and gratitude.

Speaker 12 Charles felt like he couldn't be afraid even if he tried.

Speaker 39 Charles hit the gas but checked his mirrors.

Speaker 21 After a few minutes, the woman disappeared.

Speaker 49 And with her went the feeling of peace and calm.

Speaker 4 Charles stopped his Jeep, stumbled out, and threw up.

Speaker 36 He was shaking and out of breath.

Speaker 10 Once he had his wind back, he vomited again.

Speaker 80 He didn't realize it then, but Charles had won the trust of one of the tall whites.

Speaker 18 At least that's what the U.S.

Speaker 23 government called them.

Speaker 20 The tall whites.

Speaker 7 were not from Earth.

Speaker 53 The truth was, Charles wasn't sent to the ranges at Indian Springs by his commanding officers, nor was he recommended for the job by his friend White.

Speaker 36 Charles was specially chosen by a committee of high-ranking generals, members of the government, and leaders of the tall whites.

Speaker 11 Throughout his time at Nellis, Charles was never told the full truth about his work.

Speaker 39 He was never given any classified briefings or documentation.

Speaker 10 He was never read into any black ops or secret government programs.

Speaker 6 Charles was just a weather observer.

Speaker 12 But the truth truth was, he was the one being observed.

Speaker 50 Late one night in 1896, Colonel H.G.

Speaker 8 Shaw was traveling in horse and buggy near Lodi, California.

Speaker 10 Suddenly, the horse became frightened and stopped.

Speaker 36 In the middle of the road were three seven-foot-tall beings.

Speaker 27 The colonel described their skin as so white it looked like polished ivory.

Speaker 81 Looking up, we beheld three strange beings. They resembled humans in many respects, but still they were not like anything I had ever seen.
They were nearly or quite seven feet high and very slender.

Speaker 81 They were possessed of a strange and indescribable beauty.

Speaker 7 Colonel Shaw said they didn't speak, but they made warbling sounds like birds.

Speaker 80 You can actually find this whole story online.

Speaker 7 It made the front page of the Stockton Evening Mail on November 25th, 1896.

Speaker 4 This is the first modern report of the tall white aliens, but their story on Earth goes back millennia.

Speaker 36 Paul Hellier, the Canadian Defense Minister, was one of the first high-ranking government officials to acknowledge the alien presence.

Speaker 6 He became interested after a squadron of UFOs was mistaken to be Soviet aircraft.

Speaker 82 An investigation was launched into this whole subject

Speaker 82 and

Speaker 83 a

Speaker 82 document was prepared

Speaker 85 which concluded that at least four species had been visiting Earth for thousands of years.

Speaker 36 You're probably familiar with a few of these species.

Speaker 39 There are a few variations of the grays, which are described as being under four feet tall with large heads and large black eyes.

Speaker 36 There's a species called the Nordics which are very human-like.

Speaker 53 There are the tall whites and a few others.

Speaker 82 Other species that I learned about not too long ago

Speaker 85 were called the tall whites.

Speaker 36 For years, it was rumored that at least one or perhaps more than one race of aliens made a deal with the United States government in early 1954.

Speaker 50 The defense minister agrees.

Speaker 82 There are live ATs on Earth at this present time,

Speaker 82 and

Speaker 85 at least two of them probably working with the United States government.

Speaker 18 Nobody knows the specifics of the arrangement.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the shadow government knows.

Speaker 14 Well, yeah, they do, but the public doesn't.

Speaker 57 The best guess is that the U.S.

Speaker 19 would allow the aliens to build facilities on Earth without disruption.

Speaker 6 The U.S.

Speaker 41 would also allow aliens to abduct American citizens as long as they provided the government with the list of abductees.

Speaker 6 In exchange, the United States would have access to alien technology. The U.S.

Speaker 8 wanted anti-gravity and propulsion technology.

Speaker 19 The aliens would not give them this.

Speaker 80 They felt that humans were too violent and dangerous to be let out of our cage, which is this planet.

Speaker 25 However, the U.S.

Speaker 12 did receive help with other technology, the first of which was titanium. titanium.

Speaker 87 Now, titanium was discovered in 1791, but it wasn't until the 1950s that titanium began to be used for military aviation, specifically in high-performance jets, starting with the F-100 Super Sabres and Lockheed A-12s.

Speaker 88 The Super Sabre, by the way, is the first jet to break the sound barrier.

Speaker 80 If you think this craft looks like a stealth bomber, that's not by accident.

Speaker 12 The U.S.

Speaker 48 Air Force Force used a lot of alien technology to build stealth aircraft.

Speaker 88 Transistors are said to be alien tech.

Speaker 51 Transistors allowed the size of electronic devices to be made much smaller and lighter.

Speaker 8 Laser technology arrived in 1958.

Speaker 89 That same year, we got fiber optics.

Speaker 19 And also in 1958, we got the big one, the microchip.

Speaker 49 The following year, the first integrated circuit was developed.

Speaker 86 Now, skeptics dismiss these claims as coincidence, and I understand that.

Speaker 91 But consider this.

Speaker 39 In 1947, ENIAC was built.

Speaker 91 This was the first programmable electronic digital computer.

Speaker 47 It weighed 30 tons.

Speaker 89 It contained 18,000 vacuum tubes, 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors, and 5 million hand-solder joints.

Speaker 92 It took up an entire room.

Speaker 51 ENIAC was decommissioned in 1958 because all of that 30 tons tons of technology could now be placed on a single chip.

Speaker 8 That's quite a leap in tech in under 10 years.

Speaker 20 Satellites, wireless tech, unmanned aerial vehicles, even night vision.

Speaker 53 All this technology has allegedly been gifted to or reverse engineered by the United States military.

Speaker 71 Well, certain parts of the military.

Speaker 19 When Charles Hall gained the trust of the tall whites, they showed him some of this technology.

Speaker 26 They even let him see one of their scout ships.

Speaker 7 Actually, you've seen them too.

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Speaker 78 Did they tell you, Charles, where they were from?

Speaker 78 What star system they might have come up from?

Speaker 78 One night I was there with the teacher and I asked her where she came from. And she smiled and said,

Speaker 78 asked me, do I know the names of the stars that the tall whites use?

Speaker 78 And I said, no, I didn't. And she said, so why do you want to know where we come from?

Speaker 78 However, one night they were standing around me, and I mentioned the star Arcturus,

Speaker 78 and they all got real nervous.

Speaker 47 Charles formed a friendship with the tall white woman whose child he helped find.

Speaker 36 She went by the name The Teacher.

Speaker 18 Charles later met Range 4 Harry, who is definitely not a radioactive horse.

Speaker 5 Range 4 Harry is a high-ranking Tall White alien.

Speaker 39 The Tall Whites travel the stars in large black triangular titanium ships.

Speaker 35 Smaller scout crafts were used to travel within the solar system and around the Earth.

Speaker 8 These are roughly the size of a bus and can only land on Earth during the full moon.

Speaker 20 You've seen these scout crafts before.

Speaker 39 You just know them as the Tic-Tac.

Speaker 25 Charles learned that the scout crafts aren't alien at all.

Speaker 22 Government contractors like Boeing and Lockheed are the ones building them.

Speaker 22 My gosh.

Speaker 22 They're all going against the wind. The wind's 120 miles to the west.

Speaker 99 This is an alternative energy and propulsion device.

Speaker 93 These are things that have have existed all the way back to the 60s.

Speaker 99 But the one that they call the Tic-Tac here off the coast of San Diego, the white one, looked very much like this. These have been made by the Lockheed Skunk Works.

Speaker 41 Skunk Works is Lockheed Martin's advanced development program.

Speaker 20 It works on highly classified research as well as exotic aircraft platforms.

Speaker 57 Because of their deal with the U.S.

Speaker 41 government, most military personnel believe the Tall Whites use Earth as a truck stop in the middle of the solar system.

Speaker 7 Earth is rich in raw materials and has these smart little apes who can make somewhat decent vehicles.

Speaker 8 Through conversations during his two-year post at Nellis, Charles learned the Tall Whites oversaw the development of a lot of human tech, but they've never taught us how to reach light speed or how to create the anti-gravity elements of their ships.

Speaker 91 Now, if you saw last week's episode on free energy and anti-gravity, you remember that anti-gravitic technology was very popular in the early 1950s.

Speaker 53 The entire aerospace industry was talking about it.

Speaker 77 Then suddenly, nobody was talking about it.

Speaker 28 The suspicion is, the U.S.

Speaker 50 military had help in getting this tech to work, so they classified everything.

Speaker 51 Sometimes, the tall whites would take high-ranking military members on tours of the solar system.

Speaker 39 American generals wanted to expand humanity's operations to other planets.

Speaker 80 But the tall whites don't think we're ready yet.

Speaker 50 But Charles does think there's significant trade happening between the U.S.

Speaker 37 and the tall whites.

Speaker 80 And when they feel we're ready, the tall whites will finally allow us to inhabit other worlds.

Speaker 20 So what did they want with someone like Charles?

Speaker 77 If these beings already had a working relationship with the U.S.

Speaker 20 government, why was Charles suddenly part of the equation?

Speaker 54 Well, the answer concerns the other part of the arrangement with the tall whites.

Speaker 41 Charles learned he was part of an experiment.

Speaker 20 He was being studied by the tall whites, especially by the teacher.

Speaker 36 He was fascinating to their species, and the teacher enjoyed spending time with Charles.

Speaker 77 The teacher taught Charles about her people, and he taught her about humans.

Speaker 36 Charles spent so much time with her that he became known as the teacher's pet.

Speaker 20 The tall whites.

Speaker 8 The tall whites can speak English, but their natural voices are far higher and lower in range than humans.

Speaker 53 Their natural speech has been compared to songbirds.

Speaker 91 While tall whites may appear somewhat human, their abilities abilities are quite different from ours.

Speaker 20 They possess the power to project powerful emotions into the human consciousness.

Speaker 51 They can also sense the emotional state of the humans they encounter.

Speaker 91 Even though the tall whites are naturally peaceful, they are always armed.

Speaker 56 They carry a pen-like object that can stun, damage, or even kill.

Speaker 46 Oh, it sounds like a sonic screwdriver.

Speaker 91 Kinda, yeah.

Speaker 25 But Charles was never in danger.

Speaker 87 He developed a deeply emotional relationship with the tall whites.

Speaker 20 Not much is known about tall white biology.

Speaker 36 We know they age slowly.

Speaker 47 Their first stage of growth lasts until age 400.

Speaker 55 At this point, they stand between six and seven feet tall.

Speaker 21 Then they go through a second growth stage.

Speaker 8 They can grow up to eight or nine feet tall, and their eyes turn from blue to pink.

Speaker 35 The average lifespan of a tall white is about 800 years.

Speaker 10 Charles was never told where their home planet was.

Speaker 50 He felt they intentionally kept this a secret.

Speaker 30 However, when Charles mentioned the star Arcturus, they became uncomfortable.

Speaker 8 Arcturus is in the constellation of Bootis.

Speaker 101 Booties.

Speaker 28 Bootis.

Speaker 44 It says Booties on the Teleprot.

Speaker 20 It's pronounced Bootis.

Speaker 44 Whatever.

Speaker 101 The Black Knight satellite is supposed to be from Booties.

Speaker 20 Bootis.

Speaker 41 But you're right, that star system has come up before.

Speaker 41 Now, despite being a more advanced species, tall whites secretly fear humans' intuitive capabilities and ESP.

Speaker 90 They believe it's just a matter of time before the human race evolves the ability to tap into these powers.

Speaker 57 They believe we'll develop abilities like telepathy and telekinesis, which is moving objects with thought.

Speaker 53 They believe every human has the ability to project their consciousness to any place on Earth or beyond.

Speaker 28 Remote viewing! Right.

Speaker 52 Remote viewing researchers have said that every human has this ability, but only a few talented people have been able to tap into it.

Speaker 56 Ingo Swan, Pat Price, and Joe McMonagall were talented remote viewers who worked for military intelligence.

Speaker 101 And Pat Price was killed because of it, don't forget.

Speaker 41 That's the theory.

Speaker 83 Remote viewing will explode.

Speaker 77 Yeah, we have a lot of episodes on that subject.

Speaker 35 Well, in total, Charles' experience with the Tall Whites lasted just two years, from 1965 to 1967.

Speaker 6 In 1967, he was deployed to Vietnam and he never saw the Tall whites again.

Speaker 36 He waited almost 40 years to tell his story, but when he finally did, other witnesses came forward who had seen the tall whites.

Speaker 26 There was enough first-hand accounts that researchers started looking for evidence.

Speaker 51 The first step was to try to find the secret facilities built by the United States government.

Speaker 80 And somebody found them.

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Speaker 80 When Charles Hall wanted to release his book, Millennial Hospitality in 2002, no publisher would take it on.

Speaker 6 And that was a mistake.

Speaker 6 He self-published and the book was a hit.

Speaker 80 Two more books followed and Charles made the typical rounds.

Speaker 6 UFO conventions, book signings.

Speaker 52 He did a few TV interviews.

Speaker 35 He even appeared on Coast to Coast with George Norrie in 2005.

Speaker 101 When you work with aliens, I think you're legally required to go on coast to coast.

Speaker 57 Well, if you want to sell books, that's the show to do.

Speaker 20 Now, all this attention brought out skeptics who wanted to prove Charles wrong, and it brought out the believers determined to prove him right.

Speaker 53 And the more people that looked into Charles' story, the more of the story was confirmed to be true.

Speaker 41 Charles was at Nellis Air Force Base when he said he was.

Speaker 77 He was a weather observer.

Speaker 26 He was deployed to Vietnam in 67.

Speaker 20 All those facts are easily checked.

Speaker 46 I want to hear about aliens.

Speaker 2 I'm getting to them. Get there faster.

Speaker 41 Some of the best research I found was done by David Hilton.

Speaker 52 David's website is long gone, but it used to say he was a historian, anthropologist, and researcher.

Speaker 6 Now on David's YouTube channel, he has a few videos that seem to confirm that Charles Hall was telling the truth.

Speaker 31 I had an interest in the story of Charles Hall and the tall whites for a number of years.

Speaker 31 After reading his book, Millennial Hospitality, I was trying to locate the positioning of the weather stations on the bombing and gunnery ranges.

Speaker 31 that he talks about in his book so that I could better understand the orientation of the various locations.

Speaker 36 Range three just north of the base and range four in the valley.

Speaker 103 Oh, that's Harry's hood.

Speaker 5 Right, that's where range four Harry got his nickname.

Speaker 90 But what caught David's attention were the areas marked Scoutcraft Hangar, Scoutcraft Parking, and Resting and Play Area.

Speaker 18 Charles talks about these locations in his books, so David opened Google Earth to see what was out there.

Speaker 20 Now, before we zoom in, remember how Charles described the tall white scoutcrafts.

Speaker 92 They're about the size of a bus, white, and elliptical.

Speaker 6 In David's video, he shows this image.

Speaker 20 That looks like the Tic Tac UFO we've all seen by now.

Speaker 12 But here's the thing.

Speaker 54 David released his video 11 years ago, long before the Tic Tac was made public.

Speaker 36 Dr.

Speaker 26 Stephen Greer and others claim the Tic Tac is a UFO made by Skunk Works at Lockheed Martin.

Speaker 92 Now, Charles Hall doesn't specifically name Lockheed, but he does say that the scout craft are made by military contractors.

Speaker 20 Now, let's see what David finds on Google Earth.

Speaker 34 There is some kind of platform, and near the platform, three elliptical white objects, each about the size of a bus.

Speaker 20 Tic Tits!

Speaker 5 They certainly look like it.

Speaker 90 And even if they're not alien scout craft, they totally are.

Speaker 91 Fine, but even if they're not, look at the location.

Speaker 33 There are no roads or even walking paths leading to this place.

Speaker 88 And this is exactly where Charles said the craft would be. He also said there was a recreation area here.

Speaker 100 That platform could be what he's talking about.

Speaker 23 Total white shoot noops.

Speaker 83 Could be.

Speaker 51 So David and people in his audience started scouring Google Earth around the old bombing ranges.

Speaker 45 Oh, did they find more alien playgrounds?

Speaker 28 Yep, lots more.

Speaker 31 One of the first sites listed on the video is just off the end of the runway at Creech Air Force Base.

Speaker 31 This seems to agree with Charles Hall's story of the aliens coming onto the base from the northwest corner at the end of the runway.

Speaker 35 In total, David was able to find 18 separate sites.

Speaker 26 Other people found a few more.

Speaker 51 I included some coordinates in the description if you want to check them out for yourself.

Speaker 33 Now, some of the locations David shows have been scrubbed by Google Earth.

Speaker 87 But his video is from 2013, so we can see the locations before they were erased.

Speaker 90 Most of them are man-made structures, but with no apparent access.

Speaker 46 Yeah, because you access them from underground.

Speaker 41 That is the theory.

Speaker 56 But building a tunnel system of this size underneath the bombing range would be an enormous undertaking and extremely expensive.

Speaker 52 If such a project did indeed occur, you'd expect there to be evidence.

Speaker 83 There's evidence, isn't it?

Speaker 28 Yep. Yahtzee!

Speaker 53 Not only is there evidence of a major construction project, there's evidence of a black budget cover-up.

Speaker 6 To build an underground base with miles and miles of tunnels, it's going to be a huge undertaking and wildly expensive.

Speaker 100 But there's evidence that this project did happen.

Speaker 91 In January 1951, an article was published in the Las Vegas Review Journal, and the headline is, Indian Springs Project Key to Defense Plans.

Speaker 26 The project is said to cost $300 million, and that's in 1951.

Speaker 100 In today's money, that would be $3.6 billion.

Speaker 15 For comparison, that's about what it costs to build a Freedom Tower in New York.

Speaker 9 The article said most of the money was to build housing and offices.

Speaker 105 Look at the base.

Speaker 54 Do you see billions of dollars worth of construction anywhere?

Speaker 77 I don't. So where'd the money go?

Speaker 35 Again, the credit goes to David Hilton for tracking down this information.

Speaker 89 According to the article, the contract was awarded to the McKee Construction Company in El Paso, Texas.

Speaker 47 Government contracts are public information.

Speaker 20 So let's look at the records the McKee Construction Company has for this job.

Speaker 26 Job number 1267.

Speaker 35 Description, alternate test site facilities.

Speaker 49 Location, Las Vegas, Nevada.

Speaker 104 Contract started on December 23rd, 1950 and ended May 23rd, 1951.

Speaker 51 Total contract cost $680,000.

Speaker 77 My math isn't my strong suit, but uh but about $299 of that $300 million is missing.

Speaker 20 Black budget!

Speaker 91 It looks that way, but we don't know for sure.

Speaker 92 Even the article from 1951 says, quote, the actual details of the program are cloaked in a security blackout.

Speaker 55 When Las Vegas residents learned about the huge construction project, locals contacted the base looking for work.

Speaker 35 They were told the military would be using no outside labor for this project, but that $300 million went somewhere.

Speaker 87 If we don't see that money spent above ground, there's only one other place it could be.

Speaker 46 Underground?

Speaker 28 Yep.

Speaker 43 Holy sh.

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Speaker 9 Charles Hall and the Tall Whites is considered one of the most credible stories about aliens living with and working with humans here on Earth.

Speaker 12 But is it true? Well, like many of these stories, we have no physical evidence.

Speaker 47 We only have the word of the author, in this case, Charles.

Speaker 77 Do you believe him?

Speaker 5 Well, most of today's story comes from Charles' books and the documentary Walking with the Tall Whites, both linked below.

Speaker 100 When Charles tells the story, he sounds sincere.

Speaker 47 But I've heard many stories from people who sound sincere and turned out to be frauds, and I've outed a few of them on this channel.

Speaker 25 Now, I don't have evidence that Charles Hall is a fraud, but parts of his story do bother me.

Speaker 56 First, he released his books, and there are six of them now, as science fiction.

Speaker 87 Only later did he say these things really happened.

Speaker 41 Now, supporters of the story will mention three other witnesses who were with Charles at Nellis Air Force Base.

Speaker 88 They say his story is true.

Speaker 41 But those witnesses didn't give their names.

Speaker 88 They're only known as witnesses A, B, and C.

Speaker 10 And to complicate matters, on January 13th, 2014, Forbes published an article with a strange headline.

Speaker 90 Iran says tall white space aliens control America.

Speaker 9 The article says the United States is ruled by a species of tall white aliens who made a deal with President Eisenhower in 1954.

Speaker 104 The article also says the tall whites helped bring the Nazis to power in the 1930s.

Speaker 6 Apparently, this information was discovered by Edward Snowden.

Speaker 43 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 101 So this is real?

Speaker 22 Uh, no.

Speaker 6 Forbes was covering a story first reported by the Fars News Agency, operated by the Iranian government.

Speaker 51 Forbes said the article is most likely Russian disinformation designed by the FSB, Russian intelligence.

Speaker 46 Oh, the American media sure loves to publish Russian disinformation, don't they?

Speaker 93 They sure do.

Speaker 19 Now, I don't believe anything that comes from the Iranian or Russian media.

Speaker 101 Oh, but you trust American media?

Speaker 28 No. Yeah, the boy.

Speaker 77 But what if they accidentally got something right?

Speaker 51 That the United States is being controlled by what the article calls a secret regime.

Speaker 35 I don't know if Charles Hall is telling the truth.

Speaker 48 I don't know if the tall whites exist.

Speaker 35 It's up to you to decide.

Speaker 20 But the secret regime, the shadow government, I do believe that exists.

Speaker 22 And I'm far from the only one.

Speaker 84 And the cabal comprises members of the Three Sisters,

Speaker 84 the Council on Foreign Relations,

Speaker 84 the Bilderbergers, and the Trilateral Commission,

Speaker 84 the International Banking Cartel,

Speaker 84 the Oil Cartel,

Speaker 84 members of various intelligence organizations, and select members of the military unit,

Speaker 84 who together have become a shadow government

Speaker 84 of not only the United States

Speaker 84 but of much of the Western world.

Speaker 84 The plan is well advanced.

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Speaker 107 I play Polymbius and Area 51. A secret code inside the Bible said I would.

Speaker 107 I love my UFOs and paranormal fun, as well as music. Some singing the like I should.

Speaker 79 But then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth, my friends.

Speaker 107 And it never ends.

Speaker 94 No, it never ends.

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Speaker 107 Had no fish on Thursday nights, Wednesday, J2.

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Speaker 107 The Mothman sightings and the solar storm still come. But you've got the secret city underground.

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