Genetic Anomaly: Enhanced Bodybuilding Since 19 Years Old

Svein Balzong, better known as Janet Anamyan, a 22-year-old bodybuilder and aspiring IFPB pro.

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But just as a rock climber, the athletes undergoing this path in the sport are willing to put their life on the line for their passion.

Just the danger between the two sports is different.

Luckily, we do have safety nets in this sport, such as organ imaging and regular blood work.

But that doesn't change the high risk one must accept in taking on this competitive lifestyle

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well how does that feel bro slowly coming back don't touch it

okay

it's there but it's yeah it's a tad

genetic anomaly started calling the anomalous aliens from space and now they're hacking into my podcast

how does that feel bro to be called

is that the first time you've ever been told that you sound like arnold swarzinger schwarzenegger yeah that's a pretty crazy compliment yeah it's kind of happy it's cool like

i think i have a weird accent so when people because that's a compliment you know yeah sounding like arnold i think it is

so i don't know how to react to compliments

i'm always awkward

it's funny because we recently just met someone who doesn't even know she's 20 years old not lexi this other girl and she doesn't know who arnold schwarzenegger is.

It's crazy, isn't that crazy?

No, that's actually crazy, it's not, huh?

I feel like he's one of the most well-known

people on the planet.

I'm like wondering if it's a generation thing or if it's actually more like she also just doesn't watch movies.

Sometimes we forget there's people that just haven't watched movies out there, yeah,

that's right,

no Terminator, no Commando, nothing.

Commando,

I'm always Commando.

I used to love Rocky, Rocky Rambo, Sylvester Stallon.

Yeah, he was my like,

I used to always watch Sylvester growing up and I used to compare Arnold's physique and Sylvester and just see who has the better physique.

Yeah.

Arnold always wins.

But I used to always kind of have an obsession with muscle.

So that's maybe

where this is all coming from.

Yeah, no, no homo.

I thought, please.

We all have the obsession.

But bodybuilding is a bit homo because you just stand on stage and you pose in front of people i love it and beefs yeah but it's cool you know

anything for the homies yeah what do you think is uh or i guess what would you say is your was your biggest inspiration of all time aside from your course that you said in the last podcast you know what

i'm not sure if i said it but it depends because

I feel like it changes sometimes, you know, like maybe in the beginning, which really sparked my bodybuilding and drive, had to be Rich Piano, you know, like I used to watch his videos non-stop, the Bigger by the Day series.

But there was also Sky Walker, which inspired me before.

David Leid, you know, the DOGs.

But Rich was like the guy,

like whatever it takes, it's stuck in my head.

And the one day you may, which he tatted on his chest.

Yeah.

Those are things that are kind of imprinted in my head now.

Like,

even though he's not alive, I can still

hear him in my head

because I used to watch so many videos.

And sometimes I still go today and watch the videos he made before because they were golden, you know, he was actually funny.

And there's no bodybuilding content now with the same energy as it,

like, there's no big, massive guy just talking other than Sam Sulek.

But he does car talks.

There's no freakishly huge, rich bodybuilder just speaking through a camera, showing off his cars, his shoes, going to different gyms.

Showing off his shoes.

Yeah.

I remember I used to have like a room filled with shoes on the floor.

Just picking up.

A big ass closet.

And it's just

the entire floor covered.

And I used to train with different freaks.

Like there was a video with Martin Ford.

Yeah, like content is a bit boring,

including mine.

I'm trying to work on that.

Yeah,

I have a lot to work on because

I just recently learned how to actually speak to a camera, you know, like compared to the last time I spoke to you.

I think you can already kind of tell

the like the difference in confidence when I'm actually speaking to you, you know, like to the camera and stuff.

Before I was more shy and closed up, and I had more of a Maltese accent, even though i still have it now it's still

like it's kind of not dying off it's still it's always going to be there but i'm confident enough to actually speak without stuttering as much so now that i can actually speak i just want to focus on because right now my youtube it's it's blowing up on shirts like i got 25 million views just for wearing the stitch face mask the one that everyone knows and i got a kickboxer to punch me maybe you saw the video and it blew up everywhere like i put no matter how many times i post it it always blows up so that's why my youtube is growing but other than that my long form isn't doing as crazy you know like it's yeah it's hard to actually

get a good

uh recipe to actually grow and then malta

Like I can't do much.

I always go to the same gyms.

You know, it's just a small island.

There's no one.

There's no bodybuilders there.

Like, I I can't train with anyone, there's no influencers, there's no,

there's nothing for bodybuilding content.

Like, if I come to America, that's why I love coming here.

Because, look, I just landed and I met a guy, he's an influencer.

I trained with him, he got a video, got a reel,

and like people know him, it's inspiring, you know.

Like, every day that every day that I'm here,

it's like

10 days' worth of progress on social media compared to Malta.

Yeah.

Because Malta is such a small island, and fitness is so dead there.

Like, you can't really.

It's very, very difficult to grow.

It was a miracle that I blew up

and I got the following that I have now.

Because what happened was, you remember,

like when I first first came here, I used to blow up with the Jason mask.

But after that, I blew up like completely, and I gained a million followers in a month.

Yeah,

like at one point, I was gaining so much every single day just by spamming reels, it actually got overwhelming, you know, it was crazy.

I thought I was gonna go up to five million.

Then I got shadow banned for no reason, and it fucked up the snowball that I had.

It's probably because of your double D's, yeah, nudity.

That's why I got uh shadow banned.

It's always something stupid with Instagram.

Yeah,

how do you feel about

so?

I mean, I guess a lot of the audience honestly doesn't know that we've had a podcast before.

I think a lot of my original audience, my base audience, does.

And I know that your podcast, I think our podcast episode has been growing.

One, because probably you've been like mentioning it and, you know, it pops on the Explorer feed.

And then, you know, Greg obviously mentioned a podcast a couple of times,

talking about you throwing up and shit.

I'm the kid known for eating my vomit

that's crazy like imagine getting like becoming known on social media becoming like internet famous for having a weird fucking ball on your arm for wearing masks in a gym in a public gym and ripping your shit

and eating your vomit like that's a a crazy combination not a combination um i think though that uh i mean i feel like it's just really hard, probably, for most people to believe that you ate your vomit.

It's kind of crazy.

No, like you have to be mentally ill.

It's a very big question of why.

But I think there's a lot of people that have been through, I think there's a lot of men, honestly, because

I don't know how many people can relate to this.

I can definitely relate when I was a kid, but I think there's been

a good percentage of men that have probably been in the place where

they feel

like they're not enough.

Yeah, like if they,

but it's like, it's like uh, when they feel that they're not enough, they don't recede back into a hole.

And

like, there's a level of like when someone occurs, when someone experiences depression, for example,

um, there's often times where the person will be in a stagnant state,

yeah, yeah, take it out, bro.

Take it off for the homies,

Jesus.

Actually, you should probably put it back on.

I'm sweating so much just from sitting down maybe I need to wear a long sleeve shirt

bro how much have you gained since we last talked

you know I'm actually

last time I spoke to you I was like 107 106 and I was lean kilograms yeah but now I was thinking pounds I'm like 110

but at the same time I'm leaner than before yeah you're definitely leaner yeah it's weird because everyone keeps asking me are you cutting no

and I get the question when I'm bulking then when i'm actually cutting

yeah because that what happens is since i look so full on the bulk while keeping my lean look because i eat properly and i do my cardio and the vegan juice like it's um

it's different to when i'm cutting down and I'm really flat, you know, like when you're cutting down, the goal is to stay full while you retain the no.

Wait, how do I I say this in English?

I don't know.

Wait, like the goal when you're cutting down is to keep your fullness while still losing the weight, you know.

But the thing with me is I look the best always when I'm bulking, like at peak bulk.

That's when I look the leanest, that's when I look the biggest.

And it's weird to me because everyone gets fluffy in the off-season.

And I just get more shedded.

But obviously, it's been a while since I actually did the proper cut.

Because last cut that I did, it was more of a health phase.

So obviously, I'm going to look softer in a health phase.

I think

next cut, I will look insane.

I'm looking forward to it.

Right now, I'm just focusing on gaining as much muscle as possible because I don't see the point of stepping on a stage.

Wait, you want to ask me the question?

Or you want me just to go with the floor?

Because I was just going straight into competition.

Bro, every time you think about it, yeah, just

going.

I don't see the point of

going into a competition

if I'm not really happy with my physique.

Like, okay, you need the experience, and you need the

like, you need the experience, and you need to actually step on a stage to know what bodybuilding is like.

And when you compete, you're going to see more progress

rather when you don't.

But for me right now, I prefer, like, since I'm always lean i prefer just gaining constantly slowly till i get to a point where i'm symmetrical all over

and

i'm happy to step on a stage because right now my back specifically my backside my hamstrings my glutes and my lats they're all smaller compared to the front like i look the best from the front but then you see the back I'm a lot smaller.

My lat pread is good.

Like I have the width, but I don't have the fullness.

Like if you see Sam Tzu, like, he looks like a turtle from the back.

And I love that look.

You know, I need the grainy, full, like Dorian Yates type of back.

But it takes time.

And I didn't know how to actually train my back.

What is your workout split?

Right now I'm doing...

I think I just hit every muscle.

So I either do push-pull legs.

or upper lower.

It's always those two.

I just shuffle between them.

But I'll do push-pull legs for a few weeks.

It's my favorite push-pull legs because it's the simplest.

I don't need to think much.

I just go to the gym.

What's the day?

Push.

Done.

Like sometimes when I'm doing separate body parts, like I think it's a broad split, it's called in English.

Like when you train shoulders on a day and then arms and then back and chest.

Sometimes I forget if I actually train my arms or not because I'm never sore in my arms.

And when I do push-pull legs, it's easier for me mentally with all the shit I have going on to keep track of what I actually did in the gym.

Because I get to a point where I just go to the gym to get the job done, you know.

Like with

everything going on,

you don't really keep track.

Like yesterday I trained chest.

No, I just go.

I'm a robot.

I just do the next thing.

And push-pull legs is simple.

So that's why.

it is my favorite because it requires less less brain which i'm lacking right now

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Do you feel like

your back

and maybe your hamstrings, do you think like these muscle groups, the reason that they're smaller is purely more a result of your genes?

Or do you think it's something related to the way you're trained, how you can activate them or like you're split?

It's the training, yeah.

I had a very hard time activating my hamstrings and my back, but now I'm actually dialing them in, like I'm getting to a point where I can feel my back training, and that's when I saw the progress.

So, most people think

if a muscle doesn't grow, it's genetic.

But most of the time, it's probably the training, like, in my opinion, from my experience.

But I have good genetics, so I can't really say for most people, all of the weak points that I had wasn't because I was slacking on them or because I have bad genetics in that area.

It was mainly just me not focusing on fixing my form.

like i didn't look for a way to grow i just went to the gym so if i'm training back i know i'm just gonna pull no

there's a lot of things you need to look into when you're trying to grow if you if you're not seeing any progress like i was training for a few years my back didn't change much but the front blew up and i knew something was off but at the same time i had no one telling me or pushing me to change it.

You know, that's why having a coach is good.

And he taught me how to activate my back properly and i always knew that i have good genetics but i never

expected my back to

to grow because it was it felt like it was stuck and i didn't know why but then i actually learned how to feel my lat more i think it was mostly in the rows which

which slowed down my progress I always had the width, but but now I'm actually getting the thickness, like I'm very close, you know.

And

next up, because I think I'm nailing my back, it's growing.

Now I need to dial in my glutes.

I have a very hard time feeling my glutes and my hamstrings.

But I think it's just the training.

You know, I don't think I have bad genetics anywhere.

Even my triceps, I had very small triceps.

I had very small triceps before, but then I fixed my, like I idealized, or no, my coach showed me how to do

my coach showed me how to do an actual pushdown.

And when I did it properly, properly after years of training, that's when I realized how much time I wasted.

I don't think people, including me.

What do you feel like he did or you did specifically to help activate your back when you were doing rows?

Main thing was just to lower the weight

and

just think more.

Like

it's all it is.

Just doing slower reps because when I do them slow compared like if I'm doing a row fast

I kind of I kind of know that I'm not activating as much but when I stop and I slow it down It just causes my back like I feel the ripple, you know that that

like when a muscle activates it does that little ripple

I feel it more when I slow it down and that goes for every single muscle group in general, you know

do you feel like because I feel like I can assume what I would have done in your place.

I kind of want to ask it in an open-ended way, but

I guess the easiest way for me to just state it is honestly, like, if I was in your place, honestly, from the story that you told me in our last podcast,

how kind of like how in the Real Body Building podcast, they discuss a lot about...

going into the gym with your emotions rather than going into the gym with, for example, a lined up program and progressive overloading, seeing the progress through your progress and your number.

I think a lot of the times when I went to the gym when I was a kid, I would literally just go in there to get out, get out my anger and like honestly,

literally put my energy of like

being upset that I'm not where I want to into the weights to try to progress myself.

So, I mean, honestly, I would catch myself swinging like the T-bar row.

And if I really think back on my form, honestly, I don't think I was really controlling the eccentric.

I think I was really just trying to push weights, yeah, which is the craziest thing.

Uh-huh.

So, um,

I don't know, that's what it sounds like from whenever you're telling me the story of, like, for example, when you're doing light press and you just threw up on the side of the

press and you were just going in there to get your emotions out.

No, at that time, I wasn't focused at all on my form, you know, I was just going in there, and like, I knew I was putting in the work,

but I never really thought it was that

complicated to get big.

Like, there's people people who are genetically blessed to the point like they don't even know how to train but they get huge but most people they need to focus on these things because

me specifically i had a lot of imbalances because of the way that i trained

and later on i got a bunch of injuries as well like i i remember i couldn't even squat because

I have an imbalance in my hip

and it was caused by the way I trained and also it's just a natural thing you know everyone has imbalances and I never focused on it and my quads blew up my glutes never existed

because of that like since my hips I had an imbalance here it kind of caused my quads to activate more and my glutes to just stay dormant did you do like more of a close stance when you were doing presses?

Yes.

Yeah.

I never opened up.

Yeah, this sounds like me too, bro.

Every time I open up, my hip will pop.

Yeah.

Like, I'll think about ass to grass or at least going further in parallel and then my hip pops whenever the stance is too wide.

Yeah, this is what fucked with me a lot.

Like, the stance, I never knew where to put my feet.

And it's very important, like, on a on a squat,

like, even now, I'm not that certain.

Right.

Unless like I like a hack squat, I love hack squats because I know exactly where I need to put my feet.

But I don't do any barbell squats in general just because of the hip issue that I had before.

But now I think I have enough

good muscle-mind connection to my glutes and legs overall that my form should be a lot better than before.

That's good.

Yeah.

Okay.

You want to check?

Just to make sure.

Typical self-podcaster anxiety.

So the thing that I have always wondered about,

I feel like there's without a doubt that everyone has different genetics when it comes to what body parts are easier for them to grow, you know?

Yeah, like

for a lot of East Asians, it's hard for them to grow their back.

Why?

I'm not really sure, but it's just kind of prominent that there's a lot of East Asians that have difficulty growing their back up to par with the rest of the IFBB.

Yeah, that's true.

Well, I know East Asians have big legs.

Yeah, East Asians have big legs, yeah.

I'm not one of those, no, you have good legs.

No, I think, um, there's some Filipinos like me who have a big back, like I have a good back, but then I don't have great legs, and I have to, like, I have to

train legs at least twice a week at a decent amount of volume, and all these other things, but um,

which isn't even that much twice a week, but um,

I think one of the problems is I feel like people also have a different level

of ability in being able to.

I feel like, I feel like activating, like how easy it is for some people to activate their body parts is also something that's genetic.

And so some people just have to overcompensate for places where they're just not really gifted in, you know.

And

I also feel like, like, we were discussing stance on on squats, various types of squats.

And I don't think there is any really like correct stance, right?

Yeah.

it's like just whatever you want to work on more.

But I do think there is a big problem when it comes to mobility with bodybuilders.

And like for you and I, I especially, man, like I really honestly never

really focused on my mobility, especially my hip mobility and my shoulder mobility.

And now that's hurting me a lot now, just because I haven't.

So there's like certain exercises that I have to do now.

For example, there's this type where you

strap this thick band around your thigh,

mount it to like a like a chair or something that's

yeah open up your hip and then you have to go in this like squat form yeah and then move your knee in move your knee out yeah and this helps you open up your hip uh because otherwise if you keep squatting into a position that's uncomfortable for you that's like too deep where you can't you don't have the mobility then there's things that can you know there's things that you can

kind of incur on yourself like me i have this thing that's called um

uh vimiracular or something it's basically like a hip impitchment right i had the same thing i think i'm not too sure what it was called but i yeah i think we both we both have fucked up hips it's frustrating

but uh recently it's been a lot better for me because uh

again it it's just fixing your form

and

When I when I fixed my form, especially on leg training, to fix my imbalances, what I did, I stopped doing barbell squats and I moved more onto machines.

And that kind of taught my brain to train better in a way, like in a more symmetrical way.

Because when I did the barbell squat before, I used to come up like this.

Like one side used to come up in a higher than the other, and it caused lower back injuries.

And it's very easy to happen.

Like if you

if you don't focus on these imbalances, you can get injured in a second when you train.

But when I stopped just ego lifting and just focusing more on the movement and specifically the hack squat is what blew up my legs it it just becomes natural at that point like now i know if i go do a barber squat it's not gonna be as bad as before you know like i know i'll be able to squat properly but at the same time it's still not gonna feel comfy for me because my hips are still not 100

so it's it's genetics you know there's people who like they barely try and they just grow everywhere i have to put in more more effort to get my glutes and hamstrings up.

But that's when I like when this happens, because I don't think I have bad genetics.

It's just more of this training.

The more I learn and the more time goes by, the more I realize how gifted I actually am.

Because what I have is

I never stop

improving.

I'm always

something is always changing every single year.

And it's also my mindset and the thought of not being good enough and always chasing to be better.

There's a lot of people who don't chase that,

they don't chase the need to be better.

They're just like, they just kind of accept it, you know, like, okay, my legs don't grow.

And they just do nothing.

Like, I'm always trying to find a way.

Like, why the fuck is my back not growing?

Like, I need to fix this, you know.

I'm always trying to learn.

and uh

i think yeah to get big you need to be smart yeah i wish you could just sight inject it to your back but unfortunately that doesn't work yeah

um do you know stefan kinzel which one stefan kinzel stefan maybe boss of outlaw yes boss of outlaw yeah yeah yeah yeah um he's a coach yeah yeah he's uh honestly he's probably one of the most reigning coaches right now in terms of the athletes that are on the Olympia stage.

But uh he's a very big proponent of expressing that he truly believes that any weakness is purely because someone has a problem with engaging it yes which

i

don't 100 i'm not 100 for an agreement but i think that is a massive massive contributor i do still think that there's a lot of um genetics that play a role yeah and just how able that they're how able they are to bring it up um or

maybe

even potentially like maybe someone hasn't figured out how much volume is actually good for them to see like that specific muscle group right because it varies per person a lot

but i mean i think it's a good thing for people to really consider because not many of us really think like you know maybe i'm just having a maybe i'm just not doing these exercises right yeah you know um And fucking hamstrings is kind of hard for a lot of people, honestly.

Hamstrings is

kind of difficult for a lot of people.

Yeah.

I see a lot of bodybuilders with huge quads, talking about myself as well.

And like, there's no hamsting.

Yeah, that's me too, except I don't have the huge quads either.

My quads, they

I forgot who said this to me, but he called it like a mutant gene.

Like some people have a specific muscle which just blows up compared to everything else.

Like I saw an Asian recently, his quads were gigantic, like they were bigger.

Like it's like it was big Rami's quads and then his upper body was small

like some people they have this weird genetic like factor of just mutation in a specific moment

or I don't know, you know, like it's a

anomaly.

Yeah, it's a genetic anomaly.

They have a genetic anomaly.

They just they blow up at that area.

And then everything else is tiny.

So I think in my case, it would be my quads because it dwarfs everything else.

And my quads are always lean.

Like right now, I have like thick skin.

I can just move it.

I would show you, but it's,

you know.

Yeah.

All right.

Enough about trading.

So what's happened since the last podcast we had?

Because that was like, what, like a year and a half ago or something?

It's been a while, huh?

It's been a while.

Yeah, how many followers did you have when we first was like 100,000?

100,000.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now you have 1.5 million.

That's crazy.

Yeah, that's nuts.

it's been a year yeah yeah

no a lot happened i feel like it was i met on this guy by the way i knew it was gonna happen

maybe larry did before me but still yeah i kind of knew i was gonna blow up

and i don't i don't mean that in like a cocky way i'm just saying like

you know like you kind of know when someone has that specific look

or trait which is gonna cause them to blow up on social media even if it's something that's strange or not technically positive, yeah, yeah.

Like

one thing before I go on to, because I had a specific tactic to blow up as well, but I'll go on to that later.

But uh, when I started posting on social media, I just wanted to show off my physique and the reason I got to this point because I was just scrolling to TikTok and I was looking at people like influencers with millions of followers.

and I noticed, like again, I was like 19, you know, 18, 19.

I noticed that their physiques,

they didn't look crazy.

But then I see the comments and people are like, fuck, he looks insane.

Like, that's a Greek god.

And so many people praising him.

And then I'm looking at the physique and I'm like, but I'm bigger than him.

Like, so why don't I try posting?

And I think that's what sparked my

first reel, you know, like me, because my first reel is just me posing in front of a mirror.

And I chose the most basic TikTok sound at the time.

And it did well, you know, for a first reel.

I think it got like 30,000 views.

And that's not bad at all.

Like for an account with no followers, it's like decent engagement.

And

I kind of knew that my physique had something.

And I don't know if it's like the width of my chest because I think I have small shoulders, my arms aren't that crazy, but maybe my chest,

my chest has the width, which most people like they don't have that,

and it makes me stand out.

I also have a very wide frame and it looks bigger on camera as well.

So

when I started posting, I had a feeling inside me

that one day it was gonna work out, but I never expected to blow up

It's good, yeah, I never expected to blow up this much

But I noticed like it wasn't like my physique wasn't enough like okay, I had a crazier physique than most people with millions of followers, you know, like I had a better physique in my head, but I knew that posting just my physique wasn't going to be enough to get their followers.

Like, I needed to change something, I needed something different.

And one one thing I noticed, which barely people, like barely any people were doing, was wearing a mask.

And I always had, like, I used to watch Kai Green, and I had an obsession with the mask, you know, like when he posed on stage.

Like, to me, having a cool physique and just covering your face, and no one knows what you look like, and they just see your hard work, like on a stage, like that's cool to me, you know.

And I always like had an admiration for that.

And I was like, why is no one wearing a mask?

You know, like, it's I think it's a cool idea.

And at the time, there was a guy, I think, Apex human being, maybe you know him.

He's like a tall guy, he wears a ski mask, he went viral for like doing this with his fingers and a screaming audio in the dark.

Like, that was the only guy at the time that I saw wearing a mask, but I was like, like, I could do so much better, because I just I have the physique, like, I have the genetic factor, like, which already, because to blow up on social media, you need to keep a person watching the reel.

So you need to stand out to the point where,

like you need, you need this freak factor.

And most people don't have it.

I always had it just with my physique, but I needed people to keep watching more.

So I wanted to test something out.

And I noticed, like, I got home once.

And my sister ordered the

she ordered like a pink ski mask from Sheen.

i just find it laying on the bed and i'm just like all right what if i take this to the gym today like i'm shedded as right now because i was shedded at the time it was after competing in nationals and winning and i had the rebound phase so i was shedded

the last time you competed yeah i was shedded

and in the rebound phase like you're both you're both shredded and you're huge like it's your body just absorbs the food and you start looking crazy yeah and i want to use it

yeah yeah, yeah.

I can't wait.

Like, that's the only reason I want to die it down.

And I wanted to use that.

I was like, I'm shedded as fuck.

And I don't see anyone wearing the mask.

So I'm going to do this.

I want to try this out.

I told my girlfriend, Michelle, you saw her last time.

She wouldn't come now because she's sick.

Get well soon.

And I love you guys together, by the way.

I remember the last podcast when she was here.

And I don't know, it was just an awesome experience to have with you guys.

Yeah, I wish she was here today.

But yeah, I told her, I told her, okay, I'm gonna give you my phone.

I know this may sound stupid,

but I'm gonna wear the mask in front of everyone in the gym.

I didn't pop off my shirt that time.

No, the pink shirts part came later.

And I'm just gonna flex.

I'll do a front double bicep because my abs looked cool in that specific lighting.

And I'm just gonna make a reel.

Then I made like a cool edit with Brazilian funk.

And the Brazilian funk was inspired by Shizzy because he was blowing up at the time and he was doing the Brazil funk.

And

then I was like, okay, I want to try this out.

So Shizzy uses Brazil Funk.

And no one's using the mask.

And I have the physique.

So let's put everything together.

We'll create a new recipe here.

And the second I posted, I'm not even joking.

The second I posted,

I had like 100 followers on TikTok.

Right.

Yeah.

It blew up.

Bro,

I think a lot of people that want to create a profile or want to create a brand for themselves or even like do something on social media should understand that

a lot of the success really comes from you doing your own thing.

But everyone that has done their own thing has gotten inspiration from other people.

That's okay.

Even if you feel like a Frankenstein of all your, you're all your inspirations, I mean, that's okay because that's kind of who we are as people.

We

kind of become, I don't know if you ever heard of the saying, you become the average of like the five people you surround yourself with.

I mean, the kind of, it's kind of true for the people that inspire you in the world.

And now we have social media, so those people are technically people that you know in person.

So, I mean, don't ever feel bad if you feel like you're doing something that someone else is, but just make sure that you're doing

like your creation is your own, you know, at the end of the day.

I think that's the most important thing.

And if you feel that connection to your creation, I think that's, that's what's going to keep you going.

Yeah, because this is the thing about content now.

Everything is oversaturated.

So technically anything that you do, if you're trying to build your profile on social media, it's already been done now.

Like what else can anyone do?

Like I took the masks

and Shizzy, I don't know what he took, you know?

But like you get what I mean.

Like everyone has this specific thing which made them blow up.

And now there's kind of nothing left.

Togi took the gambling and fitness together i don't know what else people can do now to blow up like it's gonna be so difficult to just get to a specific that's what people said a couple years ago yeah and now you're here yeah so i promise there's always gonna be something there's always gonna be something even though it feels like there's not but shit might just get crazier and crazier so going off of that though because i know that you have started you had this huge passion for bodybuilding and lifting before you even started social media um and that's been obvious from your stories, from your past.

Uh,

this

I might be delving a little bit too deep, um, and this might be a sensitive subject.

So, if it's not something that you want to discuss, then absolutely no pressure whatsoever.

But do you ever feel like social media has ever pressured you to do something that has made you uncomfortable or something that has made you feel like you'd be less healthy doing so?

No,

no, no, I've never been like stressed or pressured in that way.

I don't think so, no.

No.

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So, do you think that a lot of the things that

because we're bodybuilders and bodybuilding isn't healthy, right?

At least not at our level.

Yeah.

And I guess I feel like I already know the answer to this because we had a podcast before and we've talked a lot.

But do you feel like some of the things that you may do to this day in order to propel yourself forward is more of like a result of

instead like pressure from your past, pressure from bullying, pressure from

like, what do you think has propelled you forward the most?

I think it's just the constant voice in my head telling me, like, don't be a failure, you know.

Like, so, whatever you need to do,

just do it.

I have this fixation of

like, I always feel like I don't have time, and I'm only 22.

I always have this constant voice in my head telling me, Zvein, if you don't make it by the time you're 25, you know.

Like,

you're fucked.

Like, it's like the world's gonna end.

And that's why I'm constantly pressured in that sense, yes.

But it's not because of social media.

That's just me.

It's me pushing myself.

Because no one else is going to push you to be the best version of yourself.

And even though it kills me mentally and it drives me crazy, like I genuinely, I stress myself so much.

to the point where I start losing my shit, like I actually start losing my shit.

It's the reason why I got this far.

So, even though it's kind of like a curse, which

is the reason why I'm never happy,

it's also the thing that pushes me to be the best version of myself.

So, it's this constant cycle of

battling it.

Like, I'm constantly trying to stay positive and I'm trying to

be happy with what I've achieved and what I've done and where I'm going.

But at the same time,

I don't ever feel like it's enough.

And I feel like you need that mindset

to keep improving.

But at the same time, you still need to stop for a second and appreciate things.

Yeah.

Because when you don't do that, because what's going on right now in Malta, like I'm just telling you, before I came here,

I was in this constant,

like every single day for me is the same.

People may think because I have 1.5 million followers, I'm living like a luxurious life in Dubai, you know, like on a jet ski.

Like, no,

I'm just a normal guy

and I'm still trying to make it, you know, just because I have followers, it doesn't mean I'm suddenly like out of the matrix,

you know.

And I put in a lot of work, non-stop.

And

when I'm in Malta, again, there's not much to do there.

There's no content creators, no bodybuilders, there's nothing for content.

I'm just constantly filming myself, same thing over and over,

trying to grow constantly.

You know, bodybuilding is a very repetitive thing and it gets to a point where it starts getting annoying, you know, because you're you're doing the same shit over and over and over and over.

You become like a tape recorder.

But I never stop working.

And

I never stop working to the point where it's bad.

Like mentally,

I'll actually ruin myself.

Like I'll get some nights where I just

overwork myself and I don't want to do anything after that.

Like for a few days, I just don't,

I'm not able to function.

So, I know you came from our last podcast, we talked about where you came from, and I remember it personally being pretty fucking rough.

Um,

and

I'm wondering, do you, do you ever feel like being in that, do you ever feel like being in that lack of abundance or growing up in that place where you feel like you really didn't have much of anything?

Do you think that contributes to you

always having this anxiety of like I need to make it or everything's going to fall apart.

Yeah.

Because I was so used to

like when I was growing up, I never had anything and I had this, I always used to compare myself to other people

and I always saw or noticed that other people always had something that

I never had.

And now that I'm at a point where I have the things that I wanted, like I want to work even harder so I don't lose them, if that makes sense.

Right.

And it's almost hard to see it sometimes, right?

Like the thing that I've noticed is not everybody feels this way,

but there are some people like us.

And I think one example that I've seen personally is my own mom.

This has nothing to do with social media, but

she grew up in the Philippines.

A family didn't have very much money.

So, you know, as you can imagine from many people that lived in the Philippines in a third world country,

the constant mindset there is

to save.

Yeah.

Basically.

Like her entire childhood would,

like the way they had fun was she would go out onto the streets and she and maybe a friend or something, they'd find two spiders, put them on sticks, and make them fight.

Yeah.

And to this day now, even though my dad has been able to take care of her and the family,

she She still has this

fear that they have no money at all.

She still would spend an entire Sunday clipping coupons, where, to be honest, her time really would be better spent investing in something else with those resources that they have now.

But it's something that it's like.

Now at this age, now that you have lived your childhood and a big portion of your life in that exact same way, it is very, very hard to escape that mindset.

And sometimes I think we become prisoners to that mindset.

So

I don't know.

It's just something I've been thinking about recently too, because it affects me also.

And I kind of have to remind myself every morning to practice gratitude and realize that I have so much more now.

Otherwise, sometimes the anxiety kind of takes over.

Yeah, it never feels enough.

I think that's just life.

Like, I think humans just get bored.

Like you want something, you get it, then you want another thing.

Like it never really stops.

Like, I noticed this when I stop doing something for a long time or stop eating a specific food.

Like, let's say, I don't know, like a ham and cheese toast, you know.

Like, I haven't eaten that for a long time.

A ham and cheese toast.

Yeah,

I don't think I've ever heard it called that before.

Like a grilled cheese, you know.

And

like, I haven't eaten that for a few weeks.

And I forget that it exists.

But then I taste it again.

And I'm I'm like, fuck,

that's fucking good, you know.

Then I eat a lot of it, like for the next few weeks, then it gets boring again.

Yeah, so it's that, yeah, I think it's just life.

You need to constantly find something to entertain yourself, but at the same time, you need to still

keep yourself mentally stable because you can't just

say, I don't know, I think I'm just mentally ill.

I don't know.

Change the subject.

Yeah, yeah.

I know, actually, there's quite a few questions I want to ask you, to be honest.

But

I kind of want to get through this as much as possible because I know we have this little event to go to in a second.

And I would love for the audience to get some of their questions answered because you got a fuck ton in the Q ⁇ A, of course.

But what do you think about...

To be honest, I'm just thinking about this right now.

It just came off the top of my head because we literally saw it on the drive here from

Louisville.

But

it kind of shocked me when I saw that Sam Sullik won his pro card.

I always thought he looked amazing, no doubt.

But what do you think about his pro card?

What do you think about his win today?

I didn't see who he was competing against.

I just saw pictures of Sam

everywhere.

But what I noticed is that I know the guy that he was right next to on stage.

The guy right to the right of him, his name is Billy, and he lives, he works out in Gold's Gym, Venice, and he's fucking massive.

He's huge.

I mean, again, I didn't really see who he was competing against, but what I noticed is Sam looked way

better than the other show.

Yeah.

And I haven't actually seen him posing.

I just saw pictures.

But I'm assuming since he was flexing his quads properly in the picture that I saw, he probably fixed his posing as well.

You know, like he it tuned it a bit better.

And, you know, I think he deserves it.

But at the same time,

I feel like a pro card is easier to get nowadays compared to before.

And again, I haven't got any pro cards, I'm not like a pro bodybuilder, you know.

I'm just seeing it from my perspective.

Before, it felt like if someone, I think I saw this on another podcast.

They said

when someone gets a pro card before,

the whole world knows it.

Yeah.

But nowadays, like, if I get a pro card, you know, I'm nobody next to Sam Suelek.

no one's either gonna care, you know, like, no one's gonna know.

So, the pro card is a lot easier to get now because there's a lot of pro cards helped.

There's not, there's a lot more pro cards that are handed out.

The argument is that

that is the argument that many bodybuilders and

previously like ex

competitors make.

And I think it's very true.

But the other argument is that there's also a fuck ton of competitors now competing for way, way, way, way more.

The bodybuilding industry now is so much bigger.

And that's due to the fitness industry.

That's due to its creators.

That's due to the progress of bodybuilding and the IFBB and NPC itself.

I think Tyler Mannon is doing a great job.

And then I think the biggest contributor is probably Chris Bumstead, honestly.

And so you're seeing, at least I'm seeing some.

crazy physiques, bro.

I have never in my entire life seen physiques that look like the top five in men's physique or the top five, even the top like 15 in classic physique these days, bro.

Like I am just being blown away by the new, the new people that are coming up in the in the divisions.

Um, same, same thing with open bodybuilding, you know, uh, aside for the arms, I think, I think, the arms and the, I think the 80s, 90s arms

different.

Yeah, something different.

I don't know what to say.

But, um,

I uh

I don't really think that

I don't know, it's kind kind of hard for me to say.

Like sometimes I don't feel like it's that much easier.

I just think there's more opportunity because there's

just more.

We have men's physique now.

We have classic physique now.

You don't necessarily have to do the things that open bodybuilding had to do, especially in the 2000s.

And that was kind of a period of time where drug use was a bit more pushed.

I'd say.

I think these days we've reeled back the drug use in certain places.

We've been a little bit more conscious of

the growth of like someone's waist circumference.

And these are all contributors from both drug use and food, right?

And ingestion and GI issues.

So I think all of these things that are being understood,

as well as bodybuilders being a lot more conscious of their health, their blood break, all these things, because people are...

discussing this a lot, right?

We're all kind of scared of,

at least I could say most of us don't want to die, you know?

Yeah, most of us are pretty scared of having a heart attack so we we all care about taking care of our health so i think all of these things have created a place where

i don't know if i would consider it that much easier um

it's hard for me to say because it is it is more available but there's also just so many more competitors that's like i think it's hard to see

in a show so comparable in my opinion like he competed in a show like how many weeks ago was it two two weeks ago.

Like it only took him two shows.

And he already has a pro card.

Like to me, it seems.

That's pretty crazy, though.

Yeah.

Like, you know, it's crazy, but it's also Sam Suleck.

There's also a guy, Jack Eagles, you know him?

I saw him.

Yeah, I just had a podcast with Jack.

He's crazy.

Like, he looks insane.

Jack has the most

proportions.

That's insane.

His proportions remind me of Keon and Summerfeld.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

It's fucking nuts.

Summer Field Moon, I think.

Yeah.

Keon is actually crazy as well.

No, there's like, there's so many freaks now.

Because there was a point in

Fitness where the physics were kind of getting boring.

But now I think they're coming back.

Like they're coming out.

Keon's last showing, which I remember, his waist was so tiny and everything was giant.

Like,

right.

I want to be like that

someday.

Also, I take back my earlier point.

I take back my little argument because I got a pro card, so obviously it is easier these days.

But

what do you feel about, like, Sam Sullet?

Because I know you guys have this little,

you have this little social media feud with him, whether or not it's one way or not.

No, I just like I have nothing against him.

I love Sam.

I would love to stay in with him.

I met him, you know, i've spammed that reel so many times because his the reason i use his name like i never said i was bigger than sam sulek

or i never claimed to be better than sam you just kind of asked the question yeah but i ask the question then i just leave the fans you know to fight in the comments and it just goes crazy because I'm the same age and I'm just a stupid guy wearing a mask and I'm asking like who's bigger me or Sam Sulik and that one question like, it's so

it always works.

Like, I guarantee people, yeah,

like, oh, no, no, like the best one now, because when that, because I got to a point where that phrase stopped working, like, am I bigger than Sam?

So, I started doing vegan versus Sam Sulek.

It drives people crazy.

And people have to realize on social media, you have to kind of use these specific keywords or phrases just to keep blowing up.

like you keep your page just constantly rolling.

Like Greg.

Yeah, Greg.

He posted.

I'm going to meet him soon.

He posted like 10 videos straight of Sam Sue.

But Greg is also funny because he makes it obvious.

Yeah, he's funny.

I think I do make it obvious as well, like that I don't have anything against Sam.

I just use the phrases because it works.

Like, why would I post a reel with different words if I knew it it wasn't gonna get any views like i would rather just add the word sam sulek and it gets like 20 million views because it pushes my page and at the same time

it it keeps like the fitness algorithm going you know because the fitness industry it's small but at the same time my face or my reels, they still show up on people's pages who aren't into fitness.

So in a way, me creating this fake drama or beef with Sam,

it helps fitness, you know.

Like, I'm keeping, you know, like there's people who aren't into fitness at all, but they know me as the guy who compares himself to Sam Sulek.

So, they like they know of the gem of fitness of Sam.

Like, some people don't even know Sam Suleik exists, you know.

But at the same time, the fitness industry is small.

So,

I like to think of it as a way

of just we're pushing each other to expose the gym to everyone because the bigger the fitness industry is, the better it is for us, you know.

Yeah, I think that's what a lot of people in the bodybuilding industry like about Sam, though, uh, is uh

anyone that represents a sport in a positive way and helps push a sport out is, I mean, it's, it's fucking awesome for the sport, honestly, because it's very niche place and obviously amazing bodybuilding has always been weird, weird, you know, but it's awesome.

And I think I agree with you, too, that I think Sam is, I think he improved drastically at the show.

I don't know what it was that he did, but his legs just

his legs just look so much more defined.

Yeah, I wonder if there was posing or how he filled out.

It just was just so much better, in my opinion, too.

So,

I mean, kudos to him, honestly.

And I would love to see him.

He's coaching himself as well.

Like, he doesn't have a coach.

Right.

That's crazy.

Just to make that improvement on his own.

Like,

I don't think people realize how crazy that actually is.

No, it's, yeah, it's incredibly fucking difficult.

And I think a lot of people, just like me, would get in our heads whenever it's time.

What should I do with the carbs?

What should I do with this?

And the extra stress and the extra cortisol, the extra allostatic load does contribute to your look.

Sometimes increases the water weight in places that you don't want it.

So

it's pretty impressive in my opinion.

No, it is.

Like, if I was trying to coach myself, I think at that point when I'm barely having any carbs, like I have brain fog now,

and I'm eating a fuck ton of carbs.

Like,

I know I need a coach.

So, I respect it even more that the guy already learned how his body reacts to this stuff, you know, like to training, to food, and he's mastered it to the point where he gets a pro card on his second fucking show.

Like, that's actually insane.

Yeah.

So, you can tell, like,

I hear a lot of people saying or asking the question: why is Sam Sulek famous?

I watch his content, it's boring.

It's just him talking and training.

There's not much to it, but at the same time, he's special, you know, he's a unique character and he brings something different or he brought something different to the industry.

So, that's why he keeps on just blowing up.

Yeah, and he keeps doing these random stuff, like coaching himself and

getting a pro card the second, like it's it's things people work for, like they train years for, and he's achieving everything in just one go.

It's like he's he's uh

I'm not sure, I think he's hacking life.

I mean, he's got those uh strong genetics too, though.

So, yeah, he also has

the kid is also

he's also a genetic anomaly.

Yeah,

I think he's more of a genetic anomaly than me.

Let's do this QA real quick.

Yeah, um, I want to make sure everyone gets their questions which is going to be impossible but fee art

by nuka asks when are you hopping on stage

uh

okay i'm aiming with the rate of progress that i'm seeing in my back and everything else maybe in a year or two i think i would be happier with two because i would get more time just to even out and get a more symmetrical physique because i know i know i'm i'm big compared to the average guy but I don't think I would do as good as Sam on stage.

And I'm just being honest here, you know, I'm not someone to just constantly glaze myself and call myself the genetic anomaly and like I'm perfect.

You know, I have so many things I need to work on, and I'm far from a good bodybuilder.

I don't even like calling myself bodybuilder.

I just say it just because it's like, you know, like I'm trying to become one.

Like to me, a real bodybuilder is someone like Sam who has achieved his pro card and he's like he got that status you know I haven't done much to be considered a bodybuilder like I only competed once in my country nationals I won but doesn't make me a bodybuilder to me I feel like you need to be at a certain size and you need to have certain experience to call yourself that title like with pride you know like yeah i'm a bodybuilder i don't like saying that so i think you're very honest with yourself Yeah.

I think you're a bodybuilder, bro.

No, not yet.

In my heart.

Thank you.

I think the time will come for sure.

Soon.

And you have competed and you've done, I think, pretty fucking insane, especially at your age.

So it's just some time.

Yeah, I think right now I'm just like, I'm just learning my body.

I'm just understanding what bodybuilding actually is.

after years of training now i'm learning how to train my back you know it takes time so

i'm just gonna go with the flow.

I'm already stressed enough, you know.

So, I'm just trying to keep my sanity.

Because if I keep my sanity, I know I'm gonna become a good bodybuilder, and mental health is extremely important if you want to get to a certain point in the sport.

Like, if you're not healthy mentally, you're not gonna go anywhere, you know, like, yeah,

Patrick Torre thinks logic is kind of

maybe not rare, but just not as common to be seen around bodybuilding athletes.

So normally it's a pretty good perk to have a good logical sense as a bodybuilder.

Simply Browning asks, What has been your biggest health concern?

Biggest health concern?

Maybe

not much.

Yeah, yeah, like I'm healthy.

Just maybe this one, like when I

thought I was gonna die, like I was actually gonna die,

but no actual, like,

because my

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What's it called?

Like my

my blood pressure is good like everything is good.

You know my blood work like sometimes it's gonna be off, you know, but it doesn't mean you're gonna die.

No

like I'm very healthy for what I've gained in terms of muscle.

Like everything seems to be within range.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, like people think just because I look a certain way on social media with the pump, with the mask, with the lighting, with the grainy and with the grainy look, and that sometimes I have this like acne on my chest.

I can show you now, like, this is

okay, now it's not that bad.

Yeah, it's actually, it's really not that bad.

These are ingrons, but people keep telling me I'm gonna die because they see the red spots because they get inflamed and they just like spark up and just look nasty.

But in reality, I barely get get acne anywhere like not on my face not on my chest it's always just a few wing groans here and there just from shaving because i don't know how to shave properly and i don't even know how to like take care of my skin properly which i'm still trying to learn even though it's a basic thing but i struggle to learn basic stuff so that's just me what are the protocols that you um do you have any protocols that you take for like your blood pressure any ways to make sure or manage that it's uh low just the food the diet i mean the diet yeah.

I notice my blood pressure does get higher when I skip my cardio and uh I'm just eating more trash food.

So if let's say right now I spend the next two weeks not doing any cardio and uh just eating like a cheat meal a day, I know my blood pressure is gonna go up.

And I notice when my blood pressure goes up, because I feel like shit, like I feel puffy and I look ugly.

So when I get that watery, no, like it's true, when I get that watery look, I know I'm not healthy, but right now, like, I'm lean.

So, what does that mean in my head?

From my experience with my body, it means I'm healthy.

Like, if my body is capable of staying lean, it means like my blood works fine.

And this is, again, this is just from me and my experience with doing my blood work, like when I'm watery, when I'm not.

Every single time I did blood work,

when I did my cardio, when I was eating right,

everything is perfect.

So I think it's more, in my case, it's more of a matter of just sticking to my diet and like avoid, like I don't drink, I don't smoke, you know, I don't do anything to ruin my health.

The main thing I want to focus on to fix, like, yeah, this is just my sleep schedules, because I'm constantly staying up till 2 a.m.

because I need to work and edit.

And I have this tendency of just, again, I overwork myself.

So I think that's the only health risk, you know, like me

just killing myself.

How do I say it?

Like, I'm just working too much, you know.

Yeah, I need to learn how to rest.

That's the only health risk that I have.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right.

I think that's one of the hardest things for a lot of bodybuilders.

Not all, but

the allostatic load, the total amount of stress that you put on your body, both physically, mentally,

everything kind of adds up.

And honestly, even makes it harder for us to make gains, which is what fucking sucks.

You got to stay in a parasympathetic state.

Yeah, it's fucking difficult.

Like, there's a lot of us bodybuilding as well.

Like, if you're trying to build a career and you're trying to build a life with bodybuilding, because what I'm trying to do now, I'm trying to build my brand and I'm trying to get bigger at the same time.

So it's simultaneously.

Like, that's a difficult thing to balance.

And, you know, it's just life.

It's just learning how to sort your shit out constantly.

Also,

little disclaimer for anyone or for the guests, or if you guys are watching podcasts, swear to god, people's bodies look smaller and their faces look fatter whenever they're sitting down and lying on a fucking podcast.

I swear to fucking God.

Um, lighting makes a difference too.

If you have like side lighting, it like shows like the contours of your face and where all the fucking water and fat is held.

And if you have just like straight face-on lighting, like a ring light, yeah, you just look beautiful, which is

um,

those are my excuses.

Dude, this fucking guy asks you.

There's this fucking guy Mensch Press who asks, why do you lie about being natty?

LOL.

That's kind of weird.

Yeah, I don't think you've ever lied about being natty.

No.

Do you make a joke or something on your comments?

Yeah, sure.

It's my reason.

Like the natty vegan shit.

Like, it's obvious I'm not natty,

but I've spoken about it many times.

That just means he doesn't actually watch my content, you know, he just sees the reels.

Because I'm a different person.

Like if you watch my long form content compared to my shorts, Instagram is where I like where I just joke constantly.

Like I'm either a vegan, a natty, or I'm a woman.

I just say anything that's gonna cause people to talk.

And that makes my my reels blow up, which caused my page to go up to 1.5 million.

on YouTube, which I'm trying to grow and it's very small.

And like I'm again, I'm still trying to perfect what I'm actually trying to aim with the channel.

I'm very real, you know, like I'm open with what I do.

Now, obviously, I don't ever go into cycles or dosages.

I don't think that matters because everyone responds differently.

I just say, you know, like, no, I'm not natural.

It should be obvious by now, hopefully.

Hopefully.

Kind of just a personal question, but what is a

what's like the ultimate goal that you want to achieve for yourself?

And what do you want to do with, like, is there something that you want to do with your success so that you, you know, made it someday?

It's a very good question.

I feel like I just want mental peace at this point.

I don't know how to achieve it.

I remember last time podcast, you mentioned something about your mom.

Yeah.

Yeah, if I get to that point where I can just fly her out everywhere and she actually doesn't have to work.

I think that's when I can say I made it.

But I'm still working towards that point.

Yeah, I think it's just that, you know, like having the mental piece of

just seeing your parents or just the people you care about not suffering with money.

Because I feel like I've always had financial problems and everyone else around me.

And it sucks, you know, because

you see a lot of good people nowadays who go through a lot,

but they don't deserve that

bullshit that they go through.

And then you see dickheads,

and it always seems like the bad people never have anything wrong going on.

I don't know, maybe it's my perspective on things, but from my experience, there's always a good person going through shit,

while the bad person, like the guy who treats everyone like shit,

and he's just not a good person,

he has money, he has health, and he has everything.

The good person doesn't have health, and they don't have money either.

You know, there's always that contrast.

But again, that's just my experience and the people around me.

You know, every single person that I hated, or no, not hated, every single person

that that

did bad things to my mom, for example, they're just living a good life while my mom suffers.

You know, like I, I think this is just life.

So if I get to a point where I can kind of control these things, like at least I can control the financial part of my mom, like I know I'm doing a good thing and

I'm

I'm kind of fixing her life, you know, like she's able to stress less and she's able to be happy.

Because my mom is always stressing as well about me and how much I work and just to keep the house going, you know, financially.

But yeah, I feel like a lot of good people don't deserve the problems that they get.

It's weird.

Yeah.

Wearing flowers asks,

What was your first cycle?

Test.

Test.

Yeah, Yeah, just testosterone.

I think that's the

base, you know, like everyone starts to just test unless you're crazy.

Yeah.

Because the smart thing to do when it comes to bodybuilding enhanced is you just slowly introduce yourself to different compounds with the lowest dose possible and you see how your body reacts.

There's people who just go on a gram of test or trend

as the first cycle.

Like, what are you achieving out of that?

Like less brain cells.

What is the goal here?

Like people don't realize how much gear actually affects your head.

And

sometimes it gets to a point where it's too late to teach them that.

You know, they just fuck up their head.

And they're not able to learn how to think properly.

Because I think

it genuinely, like it ruins.

some people.

Like they could be this person, but instead they're kind of I'm not sure how to explain it.

I think it like deteriorates your IQ.

I see a lot of people who abuse gear.

They end up becoming very slow

and

like you're not even able to speak to them anymore.

It's like they become brain dead.

But that's just the guys

doing the dumb shit.

Like when you do it properly,

it's not that

like with a doctor and doing everything slow, it's not really gonna

affect you health twice, kind of, you know, again, it's all genetic.

But I think if you use responsibly, gear,

like I think everyone can use gear.

If you use responsibly, it's not gonna kill you immediately or

ruin your brain.

But you need to be smart.

Yeah.

And there's not a lot of smart.

Do you mind me asking

do you mind me asking what dose you started off with and how it made you feel?

Just 250 tests, so like it was one.

And I started without a coach, but what I noticed immediately,

mentally,

not much.

You know, I still felt natural, but I was getting very watery because I didn't have a good diet.

So to the people that are considering taking steroids and you're gonna go on your first cycle in the next week, please sort out your diet and if possible, get a coach so you start doing everything properly from the get-go, you know, because

people rush the decision too quick.

Like you need to learn how to actually eat and how to actually train first before you hop on a cycle.

Yeah.

I think part of the problem that a lot of people run into is try to figure out how to find the right coach.

Yeah.

Because they're not always a depending on where you live, of course, like sourcing one isn't always an availability or a lot of people don't really have access to a good coach or know where to find one or know how to know that one is a good choice for them, if that makes sense.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, I mean, I guess, uh, how did you determine whether or not your coach would be a good fit for you?

I'm not sure.

It's like he called to me.

No, uh, yeah, kind of, because there's a few coaches in Malta, but I know that some of them

are stupid.

I'm not calling out anyone again.

Please don't come after me and Motor.

I know some of them aren't as smart as they think they are.

But the smart guy, he stood out, you know.

And people don't like him just because of how

he corrects people a lot.

And I feel like

he was the most

knowledgeable out of everyone.

And the funny part about about is

the funny part about that is

my coach that I chose, he didn't coach anyone at first.

So I was his first client.

While the other coaches that were coaching more people, you know, like they had experience,

I don't know what made me trust him.

I feel like

it's not completely all about like how many clients you you have or

how much experience you have with coaching clients.

I feel like

some people just coach without really caring for their clients, you know, and this guy was always like kind of telling me, look out for your health.

If you're going to do this, do this.

He was always caring towards me.

And I think that was what made me take this step to be like, okay, can you be my coach?

you know and he also offered me as well he offered me he was like listen i know you're going to do this, and I want to help you.

So I feel like that's what you need to look for in a coach.

He needs to want to help you.

Like, he needs to look out for your health.

Not just someone who tells you, listen, eat this, do this, and do this, and go fuck yourself.

Like, you need people to monitor your health and just watch out for you, you know?

And there's not many coaches like that.

which is how I was able to differentiate him from everyone else.

Because even though the others had experience, what they did not have, which he had, is

the

like the emotional side of connecting with their clients.

They just, like robots, you know, they just gave them diets, do this, do this,

and whatever.

They were just in it for the money.

And this guy started coaching me like for cheap.

And then we kind of transitioned for free.

So he was helping me out, you know, he believed in my potential.

And we won nationals together.

So,

you know, it was cool.

That's awesome, bro.

Yeah.

It's Vic.

It's Vic Lopez.

Asks,

how big does Bro plan on getting?

I thought it was going somewhere else.

I want to go up to 115 kilo.

Lean.

So, and I'm 110.

Maybe let's add like five more kilos to my physique and my back and my glutes and my hamstings.

And then

when I get to that point, I will probably want more.

So I think my goal in life is just get as big as I physically and possibly genetically can while staying healthy and get to a point where I can step on an Olympia stage.

and maybe hit the top five.

I don't think I can be Mr.

Olympia.

I just want to be a good bodybuilder.

And I think, like, being Maltese, I've achieved quite a lot in terms of

like fame.

Again, I don't like using the word fame.

To me, I'm nobody.

I'm just saying it because I have followers.

And people think I'm famous because I have followers.

I just want to get to a point where I inspire people

to

kind of do what I do in a way, you know, like he's jacked as fuck.

I want to be like him.

And yes, I kind of have achieved that now, but I want more.

Like I want to get to the point where

not like because not a lot of Maltese people got to the Olympia stage, so I want to be one of them.

I want to make it possible for Maltese people,'cause there's not a few uh uh there's not a lot of bodybuilders there and I just wanna show everyone on the island, Maybe, if you're watching this,

that it's possible, you know, even though we're in a shithole in terms of bodybuilding.

I don't know if this is allowed to be on the podcast publicly, but baby, you uh, yeah, you kind of texted me that you're like, I'm fucking tired of this show.

Is there, is there something about a Malta that

like makes you want to

makes you feel like uh wanting to move?

Or

it's the mindsets of people like everyone's too

negative or cynical yeah they're negative everyone's negative everyone's always jealous of each other like even in america like even meeting you the second i met him he was like fuck you got bigger

that doesn't happen in malta they just try to bring you down constantly there's this thing in Malta where because it's a small island you know it's everyone's everyone knows everyone

and they constantly try to compare to each other and just like they don't like that you're that you want a show, that you got a pro card,

and they try to bring everyone down.

So, if you're Maltese and you're watching this,

like, please just try to

be a good person, you know, I don't think it's that hard,

in my opinion, and don't bring anyone down, like, no matter what they are doing.

And this is just this is for everyone, not just Maltese people.

If you see someone chasing a dream and it seems stupid to you,

I don't think you should say anything to bring them down.

You know, they have a dream.

Let them keep the dream.

They are chasing something.

Not a lot of people nowadays

actually chase anything.

So the fact that they have a dream,

I don't think you should say anything to bring them down, no matter how stupid it is.

I wore a mask.

Everyone said it was stupid.

Everyone said it was retarded.

Then I blew up.

And now I'm in America again on this podcast for the second time.

Like on my own, you know, like no one helping me.

I just got here.

And we're going to.

Yeah, like I'm fully supporting myself now.

Before I needed other people to get to you.

Do you remember?

I told you with Adam.

There was a guy with me.

And I told you guys on the podcast that he had to fly me over.

Like now I can actually do things just because I can.

And I got to this point because I believed in myself and I never stopped believing in myself.

And since I got to this point,

Maltese people now do respect it,

but

there's still those few people that are constantly like envious of me.

And they talk shit, even though I don't talk shit about anyone and I don't do anything wrong.

So that's the thing about Maltese people.

There's this constant negativity.

Okay.

Last question, last QA, and then we'll

wrap up with my last question for every audience guest.

Because we're kind of out of time, but Khalil asks, How did your beef start with Togi?

How does it start?

Wait, wait, wait.

Fuck, for fuck.

Ah, okay.

So

I think he messaged me when I gained around 700,000 followers and I didn't see his message and he was saying like congratulations, you know, you're blowing up on social media.

I like what you're doing.

Like he was a fan of me and he said it.

But I didn't see the message.

I genuinely

told me that in person actually.

He did.

Yeah.

No, I think he hates me.

But again, I don't have anything against Tori.

But what happened was he messaged me like he was being nice, genuinely.

I didn't see the message message because I have like there's too much on Instagram.

And I was like,

okay, Togi's going viral right now.

And what does vein genetic anomaly do?

He either picks on Sam Sulex's name to get the engagement, you know, and I need something new now because Sam Suleck at the time he wasn't that viral.

So I needed Togi because he was on the come-up and he was blowing up, you know, gambling.

And I needed to engage with his fans.

So what did I do?

I did a reel as a joke again,

even though it's true.

I'm sorry, Togi.

But I was like, Togi is small.

Like, it is a joke.

You know, I did it in a playful way.

But Togi knows he's small.

So why would he get?

No, it's true.

He said it.

It's true, it's true.

Like I say it now, if I meet him today, he knows he's small and he said it, you know.

Like for what he took or what he claimed he took in terms of steroids, he's not as big.

Like he says it himself, you know.

Yeah, yeah, he said it himself.

Like he's not, he never like wanted, no, he said it himself.

He was like, I never said I was big.

So why are people like bullying me or constantly mogging me on social media?

So he knows he's already small.

And I said it as a joke in a playful way, Togi is small.

And it blew up.

And then he saw it, he got triggered.

And he mentioned me on his video, which got like a million views on YouTube.

I think that's where it all all started.

And I just constantly was picking at his name as a joke again.

But now I want to work out with him.

Yeah.

He doesn't want to.

Last one,

Joseba Ibara.

Ibara.

Because he's the homie.

Asks, what are your favorite compounds to run in the offseason?

I might stop using Dekka because it gives me too much gyno.

No, I'm serious.

It happens to the best boss.

For some reason.

It just is the only thing that really triggers my gyne.

Like, it flares up.

I think the best is test, primo, and EQ.

Like, those are my favorite.

Yeah.

I mean,

maybe must.

Yeah, Primo is pretty much good, you know.

Those.

Yeah, so you don't have any hematocrit problems with EQ?

No.

Nice.

Okay, cool.

Yeah.

Something I talk about on every podcast.

I don't think you need odors or anything crazy to build a good physique.

You just keep it to a minimum and you just grow.

So if you were to disappear from the world tomorrow,

what message would you send to the entire world today?

Be positive.

Like

no matter what's going on in your life, and this is also a message to myself.

Just try to keep pushing, you know, and keep chasing what you're trying to achieve.

And no matter how hard it gets,

and even when you feel like

everything is against you,

just stick to the path, you know, keep doing

what you are doing, what you're supposed to do.

Just put in the work, and one day it will come to you, what you're

trying to get.

If that makes sense.

Yeah.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

It does.

Good, good.

That was awesome, bro.

Thanks for coming out.

where can everybody find you so i'm genetic anomaly with a one

on instagram tick tock and youtube

and uh

like if you want

dumb shirts where i'm just stripping shirts and masks just stay on instagram and tick tock but if you genuinely want to figure out what kind of person i am

and what I do with my life, just go to my YouTube, you know, it's where the main stuff happens.

I know it may be a bit boring right now.

Like, for me, at least I see it as boring, but there are people genuinely enjoying it.

So, check out my YouTube.

Mainly, it's how I'm making my money as well.

And yeah, I know it's a good support for me.

I'm not on anywhere else, I think.

Hell yeah, bro.

And if you guys also want to know a little bit more of his life and everything and you haven't seen it, our last podcast too is on my channel with the same name.

A golden one.

Like that vomit clip

is gonna live on forever, I think.