Amy Bradley is Missing /// Part 2 /// 863

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Amy Bradley has been missing for over 27 years. Her family and many others suspect foul play. During the early morning hours of Tuesday, March 24th, 1998 Amy went missing from a Royal Caribbean cruise ship. She was only 23 years old at the time. Amy would be 51 years old today.

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Where we left off, guys, we got around six o'clock-ish is when Ron says he wakes up, notices Amy's gone. And then soon he's going to start conducting his own search looking for his his daughter.

Eventually, he will return after not finding Amy, wake up his wife and his son, and they're trying to alert the ship staff, as they say, begging the staff to make an announcement to help them find their daughter, especially because they're getting ready or about around the same time, they're pulling into port.

And a whole bunch of passengers, like almost like it's the Titanic, are going to be rushing off of this boat to get off of the boat.

And they're worried that if something's happened to their daughter, that somebody could move her off of the boat or she's going to get lost in the shuffle.

They really feel like if they're going to be able to find her, locate her, that this is the time.

Now, while all this is going on, we have witnesses who claim to have seen Amy after the time that her father believes her to be missing, right? Or at least missing from their room.

Some reports I've seen have suggested or said as many as three separate witnesses later told authorities that they saw Amy on the upper deck with yellow. She's, you know, he hands her a drink.

I, I, I want to be clear on this because one thing I didn't love about when this goes from your TV screen and then somebody plugs it into the internet, everybody always says, well, there were two people that saw her.

They were stand two women that were standing together. They saw Amy with this guy at this time.
I say nay, because all I remember seeing on the documentary was one person sitting on camera.

So she can say all day and night that she was standing with somebody else, but we don't have that other person to step in front of the camera and say the same thing.

So I lean more toward we got one person giving this statement. I can clear up some of this because I have talked to the two girls who were, there were girls at the time

who saw Amy. with yellow.

Now, these are two

young women who met Brad and Amy actually at the airport in Miami when they were on their way to Puerto Rico. And so they were about the same age.

One of them had kind of a crush on Brad or thought he was attractive. And so, you know, they hung out with Brad and Amy.
So they knew them, you know, on site.

And they were also at the disco that night dancing late into the morning.

And these two women decided not to go back to the room after the disco closed because they didn't want to wake up their family.

And it was so late already, they decided to stay out

on the deck until around six in the morning before they could go back. So

they exist.

I've talked to them, and they claim that they saw Amy go up. that glass elevator back up to the disco with yellow.
Now, the documentary makes it seem like they saw them

for sure

after Amy left her cabin at 5.30 or whenever it was the next morning, and that it was, you know, after that that they saw them go back up to the disco. Now, I disagree with that

because

one of the girls that I talked to

says that she can't be sure that

it was that late in the morning and that it could be as early as 3.30 in the morning.

So I think it's very possible she did see Amy and Yellow together, but I really think it was before Amy went back to her cabin.

But we can't be sure. They said that they saw Amy and Yellow go up the elevator, and then Yellow came walking across the deck alone and walked by them.
So what happened to Amy there?

I think that's probably when Amy went back to her cabin.

But they, they,

you know, they're not entirely sure, but they do suggest that they saw her after she came out the next morning. I, but it's, it's not, it's not 100% like the documentary makes you think.

And you did mention the, there, there's this rumor of a third witness, this woman who would hang out at the disco

because she was taking antibiotics and she had to stay out of the sun.

And she's, she claimed at some point that she saw saw yellow and amy come up when nobody else was there and yellow gave her a drink that witness i think is totally unreliable um if she is in the disco because she's trying to avoid the sun what's she doing there at 5 30 in the morning when the sun's not up uh the sunrise that morning i think was around 6 30.

nothing about that witness makes sense and it's my understanding nobody can locate that witness anymore. The witnesses aren't as reliable as the documentary would make you think.
And

there were a number of other witnesses that claim that they saw Amy on Curacao months after she went missing, suggesting that she did get off the ship, that maybe she was involved in human trafficking.

But you got to remember that these are eyewitnesses that are coming at it in reverse. You know, they didn't know who Amy was.
They encountered a woman that kind of looked like her.

And then months later, they saw her picture on America's Most Wanted. The human mind is built to create narratives that make sense, that tell a story.

And memory is not

something like you see in TV and film where suddenly there's this flashback in 4K and it's exactly how it happened. That's not how it works.
Every time you access a memory, you change it a little bit.

You rewrite rewrite it a little bit.

It's not static. So I do believe that the witnesses believe they saw Amy,

but I don't know. I'm not convinced that the woman they saw was actually Amy.
The three of us, we get to see kind of how the sausage is made, right?

James, maybe more than myself and the captain, but James, you've been involved in different documentaries, as have I, True Crime Garage.

And I can't say this was everyone's experience, but the studio or Netflix, whoever is putting out the documentary, certainly has

skin in the game, right? And I have experienced a particular situation where I'm sitting in front of a camera and they're getting ready to hit record. And they say, hey, why don't you say this?

And I go, well, why would I say that? They go, well, because, you know, of what was going on at the time. I go, well, that wasn't the situation.
That wasn't the case at all.

Well, how about you just say it for the camera, real quick? Real quick shot here. Just go ahead and say it.
And I go, no, I'm not saying that because it doesn't. Good for you.
It's not true. And maybe

some people will do that because some people just want to be on camera.

And in that moment, I'll defend people that say things that are untrue because I think that the way that I would, I thought they were making me feel was that I had to say it or I was going to be, you know, asked to leave the room.

But

I I didn't give a shit. Like, good.

I know, I know the story, I know, I know the facts of the story, and you can ask me all day and night to say something. If you want to find somebody else to say that for you, you can, right?

I'm sure there'll be a line out the door.

Yeah, most people don't realize that on these documentaries, there's often a writer that's credited, and that's that's what the writer is doing behind the scenes is they're thinking about the narrative they already want, and they're trying to put the words in the mouths of the people that are being interviewed.

So it's not this, you know, a lot of times the documentaries you're watching, you're listening to these statements. A lot of times that's not the statements that they made.

It's the statements that were rewritten on the spot and then asked,

like you said, they go to the witness and say, can you say it like this? Or can you say this?

I think that it gets difficult for the viewer to understand that when you're seeing somebody sit in front of the camera and tell you something,

it's completely different than if they were sitting on the stand, hand on the Bible, and testifying to something in court. It's completely, completely different.
For sure.

Well, and that's why anybody that is interested in this case and is doing a deep dive on Reddit,

do yourself a favor, go watch these interviews that James Renner has done. I think it's some of the best stuff that

you've been putting out. Thank you.
But why has nobody mentioned this?

I was watching the documentary maybe 15 minutes in. I'm like, this is a great documentary.
It's shot well. There's great

B-roll.

It kind of made me miss the days of Paradise Loss and the grittiness to the original docu series. But nobody, I have not seen anybody mention this on the internet.
Her brother's name is Brad Bradley.

Yeah.

Don't trust a man with two first names. Don't trust a man with the same name,

just slightly altered. And in all likelihood, his name is Bradford.
No, it's

actually, he's Ronald Bradley Jr.

And the story I got was,

so instead of calling him Ron Jr., they were looking for a nickname and they thought he looked like a Brad. So they started calling him Brad Bradley.

Or he had friends that would just call him Brad for short So it it stuck He does look like a Brad not gonna argue that I'm not trying to poo-poo on the family Don't think I'm doing that, but I have seen a lot of online speculation that Brad might not be so great with the truth at times.

I I'd never caught I don't think that any I don't think that the family has outright lied about anything.

I think they've withheld some information, which got them in trouble during the lawsuit against Royal Caribbean 2.

But I don't think they would outright lie about anything. And I certainly don't think they're ultimately responsible for

doing anything to Amy.

In their heart, you can tell that they believe that she's still alive and desperately want to. um to find her.

I, you know, I, for me at this point, if I was, if I was Brad, I would be deleting all of my social media history. You know, the, I mean, it's,

if Amy's alive and reading his, his social media, I can't,

it would have to be very painful, you know, so that bothers me a little bit. I've said it before, they were a very tight family.
There was a lot of love there.

What are your thoughts on the eyewitness that claims she saw Amy in the bathroom?

So, yeah, this woman went on a cruise and ended up in Barbados and has this story about how she encountered a woman she believed to be Amy Bradley inside a bathroom and that she was being essentially guarded by three

black men who were with her

and trying to keep an eye on her. And that woman,

the witness, she actually lives in Ohio. So I got to, you know, sit down with her.
She lives in Columbus. And again, I think she believes that she,

what she says, that she believes what she saw. I don't know that it was Amy.

She has this story about

this woman acting very bizarre in the bathroom. And she went up to her, got a sense that she was in some sort of trouble and said that the woman told her her name was

Amy and that she was from, she thought she said West Virginia, but in hindsight, you know she said well it could have been like a town in virginia like chesterfield virginia and again she's coming at that in reverse because you know she has this encounter and then a couple months later sees amy's picture on one of the news programs like uh america's most wanted and then i think it was on dr phil but dr phil yeah the thing i thought was interesting about her telling of the story and again Because I didn't talk to her face to face,

I have to just go with what the documentary is saying, but it made it sound like she didn't have an aha moment until it wasn't a picture of Amy, it was a picture of this sex worker that was on a website that some people think is Amy's.

Can you

dive into that? And are we learning any more about this individual that was on a website? Yeah, it's a very interesting part of the story. So I think you're right.

I think it's possible that the woman that she encountered in Barbados was the woman from the escort pictures. And that woman is, in my mind, very unlikely to be Amy.

So

in around 2005, somebody sent the Bradleys a picture of a woman from an escort website that was running out of a brothel in Margarita Island. Now, Margarita Island is fairly close to the

ABC Islands of

where Curacao is. And Margarita Island is, in fact, on a good day, I think you can see Margarita Island from Curaçao.
Margarita Island is part of

Venezuela, which is

a very, very scary country. And

there is a brothel on Margarita Island called

It was run by a business called Affordable Adult Vacations, which was run by a Greek guy from Canada named Alexis Zaglonidis.

And he was this weasel of a guy who always had his hand in prostitution down there. So this picture shows a woman who clearly has a resemblance to Amy Lynn Bradley,

but her hair is kind of curly, frizzy.

And

to me, the first time I looked at that picture, I immediately just thought that this picture had to be taken in the late 80s or early 90s. Just kind of has that look.

And

so, but there's definitely a resemblance there. And so they did a lot of work trying to look into that brothel and the background of this guy.
And

so when I set out to do my research on this case, That was one of the main things I tried to focus on because either that is Amy

or it's not. And if it's not Amy, then who is that woman in the photograph? And if I can identify that woman, then it really, it really kind of puts,

you know, it kind of takes away the idea that she was trafficked because at that point there'd be no evidence that

she was.

So

I set out to figure out who that woman was. Now,

I haven't been able to do that for sure, although I think I'm getting close.

There are a number of other women whose photographs appeared on that same escort website. And

on that page,

she's on a page that refers to visiting escorts, not escorts that live on Margarita Island, but escorts that would come in for a weekend to meet up with clients and make some money.

And there are two other women on that page who I have been able to identify. And both of those women starred in adult films in the 90s.

And it appears they were never at Margarita Island, had nothing to do with it.

So I believe what was happening is Alexis, the guy that ran the place, was taking still photographs of these white women from adult films saying that they were visiting escorts as a kind of bait and switch.

These guys would come out to the island and they're like, hey, could I get a date with Jazz, the name of the woman that looked like Amy. And he'd be like, Oh, you know what?

You just missed her, but we have these lovely women from the Dominican Republic in Colombia. Because the women that were working in the brothel were

women of color exclusively. And,

you know, partly because it was easy to

obtain them. Now, I do think it was a bit of a human trafficking situation, although Alexis would have argued that, you know, the women had a choice to work there or not.
Sure, they had a choice.

They had to come on the island, but the money that they would make in that brothel would be 10 times the amount they would get working for any job at their, you know, in the Dominican Republic or Venezuela.

So, yeah, they had a choice, but did they really? They were all women from those islands.

And if you're involved in a criminal activity of some sort, you don't want to get the attention of the authorities. And a white woman in those brothels would have gotten a lot of attention.

And I don't think it's worth the risk for them. So

I don't think that Jazz is Amy.

Now, after the documentary came out, I was contacted by a woman who claims to know who Jazz is

and said that she was on Facebook one day, and this picture came up of Jazz.

And this was a couple weeks before the documentary, even. And when it came up on her page, she's like, oh, that's my old friend Susan.

And she assumed that she was seeing something like an obituary or whatever. And then she realized that this was connected to Amy's case.
And this woman claims that she knew.

The woman from the photo, her real name was Susan, and that she lived in Daytona Beach,

Florida in 1994, which is four years before Amy went missing. And that this woman claims that she would do makeup for these photo shoots that

Susan's boyfriend would use to kind of promote her as

an escort or call girl. Now,

it's hard to verify that story. This woman's given me the names of a couple of her friends who also met Susan.
So there is,

you know, some circumstantial evidence there. But

yeah, we're still trying to figure out,

you know, who the woman in the photo is, if in fact it's not Amy. I almost never think, right, anytime that we're seeing documentary or dateline 2020.

When they show a missing person and then they show a photo of somebody that might be or somebody thinks that it's a photo of the person, when they compare them, I almost never think that they look alike.

here's the other thing too there's a lot of people that haven't heard of this story until very recently because of the documentary but this story has been featured a lot of times on other shows years prior to this documentary so i remember things about this case and learning about this case from other shows way back when and seeing that photo way back when on those shows and I remember at the time not thinking that it looked a whole lot like Amy, but for some reason watching it on Netflix, I saw a lot of similarities.

But the other vibe that I got was the picture, let's pretend for a moment that it is Amy.

It shows somebody that, again, I agree looks a lot like Amy, but it would be somebody that's older, haggard, right?

That it would be, it would have to be a much more recent photo than when Amy went missing. That's the impression I got.

However, I thought, it can't be Amy because everything about this picture other than the person in it is telling me that it was taken probably prior to her going missing.

Like that photo just screams early 90s to me.

Everything in the background, early 90s. Everything about the woman, early 90s.
And so if that is true, then it can't be Amy.

I do want to touch on something, though, because one thing that let's talk about the wrongful death lawsuit for a moment. Sure.
Because the family has,

they make efforts to declare Amy Bradley dead so that they can take this wrongful death lawsuit against the cruise line, which I can agree with that.

However, your lawsuit isn't going to have any legs if you are saying we are filing a wrongful death lawsuit, but at the same time saying that, well, she's still alive and living on an island somewhere.

Right. So it quickly is going to get tossed, right?

You can't be saying

the whole crux of your case is that it was a wrongful death, not that, you know, it was a wrongful, she got off at the wrong stop on your cruise line. Yeah.
So that gets tossed.

They actually filed two suits against Royal Caribbean. One was the wrongful death and one was for negligence, I believe.
And, you know, they were kind of connected in that way.

And it forced them to, I think part of the reason they filed the lawsuit was to get some of the people from Royal Caribbean under oath in deposition, which they were able to do.

They also,

Iva and Ron and Brad were deposed. Unfortunately, it's been so long since they filed suit that those depositions have been destroyed.
But I was able to get some information about the

hearings and the court cases and things like that. And the suits were ultimately dismissed for essentially the reason you you said and um the reason the

that the court stated they were dismissing it was due to fraud on the part of the bradleys and the reason they said that they were involved in fraud is because

they um apparently had uh over a hundred sightings of amy

and they only um offered up the sightings that suggested she was under duress on the island and did not share the witness statements that showed her alone on a beach or alone at a restaurant, seemingly, you know, not under control, seeming, you know, to just be

under her own power. So, you know, that hurt them.
And the reason that they gave at the time for not sharing that info

is interesting because they say they weren't sharing it out of caution for her life, because at the time, they believed that Amy was being held by a colombian basically uh criminal syndicate in curaçao and that has to do with another part of the story which is this uh guy named frank jones goes to them and and says hey i'm an ex-special forces guy i have information that amy's being held by colombians on curacao uh i need you to you know if you can fund my excursion there with my a team, we'll go

my ex-Navy SEAL buddies will go rescue her. And so at the time, they really thought that by sharing that info, it might put her in danger because this operation was kind of underway.

That ultimately turns out to be a con.

Frank Jones conned

the Bradleys and a missing persons organization out of over $200,000 before he was ultimately caught and sent to prison.

He receives like five years in prison, I believe, and it was over, it was like $28,000 in change from the Bradleys and about $180,000 to $190,000 from this missing persons fund that he frauds them out of.

Meanwhile, what we learn is it's really just funding this lavish vacation where he's just at a bar and drunk all the time.

And he even provides them with some photographs that he says is of Amy on a beach with a man that's controlling her. And later we learn that he fabricated those photos.

It was a man that he knew that posed with a woman that they hired and they somehow put tattoos on this woman to make it look like, because you don't see the woman's face. Yeah.

It implies that it's Amy because of these unique tattoos that Amy had and the placement that they are seen on her body while she's sunning on the beach.

One thing that I thought was shocking because I was like, I had no intention of watching the documentary because, like I said, I've seen the story covered several times before.

We're so eyeballs deep in true crime stories, and there's so many cases that are in my head. The space, the room is not large enough.

I need to purchase more real estate because it's scrambling the brain at this point. And so, I choose not to watch certain things because it's overload.

And there's a place down the road that I frequent. A few of the people that work there and have worked there a long time, they know what it is that I do for a living.

So, I'm walking in there the other day. I haven't watched the documentary yet.

I hear this conversation and overhear this conversation from afar, and I can quickly tell that they're probably talking about the missing woman from the cruise ship.

And the documentary has recently come out. So they come over to me after they're having a lengthy discussion.

And they said, this family, this poor family, why didn't they just hire a private investigator and send them to the island? I'm like, oh, right away.

Then I'm like, oh, now I have to watch the documentary because they clearly left out a huge portion of this story. That was a a large part of this.

I mean, this guy frauded these people for months and months and months. This was, yeah, this was ongoing for a long time.
And then they learn everything he's been telling them was complete bullshit.

Why do you think that that doesn't make it to the Netflix documentary? Do you think that that's like egg on our face, that the family is embarrassed that they believe this?

Or do you think that it's Netflix trying to sell us a mystery that maybe it's not so mysterious? I think it could be. My personal thought is

it could be a number of things. One, that they had limited time and

they only had three episodes for this series, so they concentrated on the

you know, some of the more interesting things that might be connected with her disappearance.

I think it could be because they couldn't get anybody on record to give a little more information about him other than the family. Obviously, they

probably couldn't get Frank Jones himself.

I have talked to him a little bit. So, yeah, I think it was time constraints and lack of

finding decent interviews for that. Well, but I mean, his situation's been adjudicated, right? You can go to

those records and use that. I'm just saying, I thought it was a little irresponsible in the presentation because I get what you're saying.
There's only three episodes. You only have

so much space and so much time. But at the same time, you also spent 10 minutes showing us every podcaster that's talked about this case from their basement,

which I'm sitting there on my couch watching it with another person, and they're showing these different podcasters talking into microphones and on YouTube and whatnot about this story.

And I'm going, holy fuck, those are my colleagues.

How disappointing that

those are my colleagues. They look like they haven't left the basement

in months. And meanwhile, I haven't left the garage in 10 years.
I say step out of the basement and into the garage, my friends. But yet, no, this story is huge.
It's certainly huge right now.

I love what you're doing with digging deeper and talking to people more on this story because regardless of what you think happened, I think it would be negligent on anybody's part to sit there and say, I'm...

sold on this one idea. I think there's so many possibilities with what could have happened with this young woman.
And

I will agree absolutely with the family. I'm so glad that they did file the lawsuit for the negligence of

the cruise ship because you are given a false sense of security when you walk onto those ships. I tell you, friends, it's not like going into a nice hotel here.

It's far more dangerous than any of that. And I think that the cruise ship did show a bit of a disregard for this woman's safety and for her family's concerns, right?

They, they delayed making any announcement.

And I thought, look, maybe the guy in real life is an absolute winner and he would be my best friend if I knew him off camera. But on camera, that cruise director came off douchey as can be.

He's like, but the cruise goes on. Well, yeah, okay, good for you.

But the cruise goes on. And look, Amy's not the first person to come up missing on one of these ships.

She's also not the first person that was missing for a period of time and then later found and nothing wrong.

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One thing that the documentary missed as well was

how thorough was the search of the ship. They're like, well, yeah, we had all hands on deck.
Every crew member was searching every nook and cranny of the ship. They weren't.

We know that from later statements that didn't make it onto the camera from the FBI. The FBI says as soon as they get onto the boat, they're talking to the captain.

They're talking to the persons in charge. And they're like, yeah, we, you know, we looked around for her.
We sent out some of our security personnel and looked around for her.

No, it wasn't all hands on deck. It wasn't every nook and cranny.
It was a couple guys looking for her. They didn't find her.
I have a background, security administrator for a very large property.

If you told me to go find something on that property back then, I would have looked at you, James, and Captain, and said, with all of the confidence in the world, I'll find that for you.

But I can also say, sit here and say, no, I remember one of our staff lost a set of keys, building keys. This is a high-security issue.
Yeah. Right.

This is east of the building, dozens of keys on this key ring was lost in that building and on that property.

Those keys, at some point as the, as the boss, I was convinced they were gone.

I was at some point convinced that somebody left with them, lost them off of the property, and we would never see them again. Nope.
We found them.

Two and a half months later. Wow.
Two and a half months later, we found those keys. Another situation in property management many years later, somebody had lost their clipboard.
It was drywalled over.

And it wasn't until like

four or five years later when they were removing the drywall that that clipboard was ever found. So I'm here to tell you that

that search is not a thorough search. The FBI says it wasn't.
And I do think that there was some negligence.

on behalf of the the cruise ship and in disregard for this young woman and their family's concerns.

The documentary is just kind of the tip of the iceberg if you're going to dive in this rabbit hole and i think the first episode you start going who is this yellow guy and this he's a kind of a creepy bass player which we we know most bass players are especially the ones that play on cruises are creeps The captain was a bass player that played on several cruise ships.

So if anybody can vouch for the character of those

stringed players, it would be well, we don't have a lot to do in the band, so we have time to think and

look out into the crowd. But so part one, you go, okay, we need to know more about this individual, and then they kind of get away from it.

And then episode three starts off with his daughter calling the Bradleys.

One of my issues with him even being that good of a suspect is he doesn't get off the boat and he remains on the ship remains in the band still has to do his job for the rest of the time that that boat is gone out at sea so did he sneak her off the boat and hand her off to some handlers and then all these eyewitness accounts you go well can we track yellow's whereabouts and was he even around or was he out because like you said these contracts are sometimes for six months.

Other than getting off at a port, you live on that boat and you're on that boat for six months, sometimes a year at a time.

Because sometimes you get to the end of your contract and you're like, hey, I'm going home next week. And you get an offer.
Hey, we had a bass player back out.

Would like to have you renew your contract.

And in those cases, because I have several friends that have done this, if they're in a pickle, they up your pay.

And so there could have been six months, sometimes a year or more that he was on cruise ships. So, how is he doing anything with Amy? Yeah.

But like I said, it's just the tip of the iceberg. I think your interview with him is great.
I think it just adds more details and gives you a better picture of everything that was going on.

But what are your thoughts on Yellow? Yeah, I think the documentary did Yellow dirty.

You know, they didn't get him on camera. They didn't get an interview with him.

And, you know, for me, sitting here in Ohio working on a book, I thought, you know, I realized how important it would be to talk to Alistair. He's very difficult to get to, though.

He lives in Grenada, on Grenada, which is,

you know,

its own separate island. And I realized that I was going to have to try to find him there.

Now, Grenada, like Curacao, it's hard to, you know, they don't really have phone directories that you can access

online. So I was able to find that he was working for a church and that they would meet every Sunday.

But, you know, he would, it's called the Church of the Nazarene, and they have a couple sites around Grenada, and he would alternate around them. So

I decided to go to Grenada to see if I could find him.

And so I flew there last October. And of all the places I visited for the story, Grenada was the only place I felt that I was in danger.

It's definitely like a third world type of situation down there.

Not a lot of police oversight.

There's a lot of corruption there.

Just the, you know, just

the disparity of income is,

you know, the people on the island are making next to nothing.

Everybody on that island, I was drive, I was riding around in a taxi, and there were these, by the way, the taxis, when I say taxi, you're, I think all these taxis are like over 250,000 miles, you know, held together by duct tape and wishes.

And I was in the back of this cab, and we were driving through these neighborhoods, and every house had a little wooden shack out front and I'm like it almost kind of looked like bus stops and I'm like hey what are these shacks all about and the the cabby said oh that's uh everybody has their own little shop and they'll sell you know chips or soda or water or or rum or beer because everybody's hustling everybody's got two or three different jobs because they're poor.

And so it was a

very different world down there. And I took this cab to the church, not knowing for sure that Yellow was even going to show up.
But luckily he did. And

he got out and I went up to him and I said, you know, Alistair, you know, my name's James Renner. I said, I've come a very long way just to talk to you.

Would you give me 10 minutes after your service? And he and he he nodded. He's like, I know, he's like, I know how how, how far you must have come.

He's like, I'll give you some time after the service. So I sat and watched his sermon, and he talked about working on the island as an exorcist, which is interesting.

And, you know, he had a very nice congregation. They sang lots of songs.
And he has a beautiful wife and a son who I think is like 12 or 13 years old.

Then we talked after that.

Just he and I and he sent everybody else out of the church and we sat there

and spoke. And I found Alistair to be very sincere.
And he has a lot of regrets about the way he acted as a young man.

And, you know, the, you know, he would call them sins, you know,

trying to hook up with these young women on the cruise ships. And, you know, he takes responsibility for that.
But he's like, look,

I didn't traffic anybody. I didn't kill anybody.
And I do think, you know, that so you've got the witness that says that he saw Amy with yellow on a beach in Curacao months after she disappeared.

And would somebody,

under the theory that Alistair had something to do with putting Amy in a trafficking situation, would he then go back to his victim months later in a public space where she's out and and free to ask for help.

He's just putting himself in danger in that situation. I just, I don't see it.

And

he has no history of violence. But also, we don't know if he was on a cruise ship at that time.
Correct, yeah.

I'm sure the FBI has been able to piece together his, you know, when he was on the ship and when he, and if he was even available to be on Curacao that day.

And I think it's very telling that the FBI has told the family, look, we we have no evidence she ever left that room. Yeah, I think it's highly unlikely.

And in that case, you know,

look at what they've done to him. I mean, not just the documentary, but everything that the family has said on social media to this day.
I mean, he's,

there's so many people after watching that documentary that just assume, oh my God, he's guilty of sin and

he trafficked that poor woman. Like you guys are saying, Netflix, a documentary documentary is a bit of the tip of the iceberg, if you will.

Us talking about it here today while we were able to dig into some other things and

really kind of dissect some pieces and parts of that documentary and things that James has learned about this situation. before the documentary came out and still exploring it.

We could go on for hours. We could go on for days.
There's a lot of stuff we didn't get to. So if there was something that your ears didn't hear today, folks, don't get upset with us.

We are just a few guys hanging out in a garage trying to make heads or tails of a very difficult and mysterious situation. And, like,

you know, the reason why the story has to be that if Yellow did something, he most likely had to hand her off at port is because, just like the cruise director said, the cruise goes on.

The cruise has to go on. And it did, right? The boat continued on with or without Amy.
We still don't know what happened to her, but we know that the vessel later departed Carousel.

It continued on to the island of St. Martin and then went to St.
Thomas, to the Virgin Islands before returning to San Juan, Puerto Rico.

This on Saturday, March 28th, 1998, and then creating this huge, huge mystery of what happened to this young woman. James Renner, we appreciate your time.

We appreciate you joining us once again here in the garage. You are one of the most recommended true crime authors on our show.

And so, great true crime books. But for this story, for more on this story, go to his wonderful podcast.
It's on YouTube as well. True Crime This Week.
You can check him out.

Make sure you look into more of the Amy Bradley stuff. He's got a lot of it there for your earballs and your eyeballs.
Thank you, James Renner, for joining us

this week.

Amy Lynn Bradley is missing. She's been missing since March 24th, 1998.
She was 23 years old at the time of her disappearance. Amy would be 51 years old today.

Her classification is endangered missing. Her family suspects foul play.

Amy is a Caucasian female. She is 5'7 inches tall with brown hair and green eyes.

Sometimes Amy would dye her hair blonde, and at times especially when cut short, her hair may appear to be almost black.

At the time of the disappearance, Amy was approximately 115 pounds, ears pierced multiple times, and her navel is pierced as well.

She was a smoker and social drinker, mostly Marlborough lights and miller light beer.

Amy has the following tattoos, a Tasmanian devil spinning a basketball on the back of her shoulder, a green and blue gecko lizard around her navel, a Japanese symbol on her right ankle, and a primitive Japanese sun tattooed on her lower back.

The FBI have age-progressed photographs available showing what Amy may have looked like at 42 years of age. The FBI is offering a reward.

of up to $25,000 for information leading to the recovery of Amy Lynn Bradley and information that leads to the identification, arrest, and conviction of the person or persons responsible for her disappearance.

If you have any information concerning the disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley, please contact your local FBI office or the nearest American embassy or consulate.

A special thank you to author, YouTuber, and podcaster James Renner for joining us in the garage this week. Please check out his show True Crime This Week, available on YouTube and podcast.

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