Ukraine Battlefield, New Immigrant Detention Center, Kennedy Center Honors

Speaker 1 President Trump meets with Russia's President Vladimir Putin in Alaska tomorrow. The summit's goal is to end the fighting in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 While talks go on, though, the war keeps on going. Does Ukraine have any hope that Putin will agree to a ceasefire? I'm Michelle Martin.

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Speaker 2 Also, President Trump is taking over the Kennedy Center honors. He picked the honorees himself and he's hosting the show.

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Speaker 2 As President Trump prepares to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska on Friday, the fighting in Ukraine is still going on.

Speaker 1 In fact, battles have been escalating on some fronts in recent days.

Speaker 2 And Piers Greg Myri is in Ukraine's capital, Kiev, and joins me now to talk about that fighting.

Speaker 6 Good morning, Greg.

Speaker 2 Hi, Leila. So what should we know about the fighting right now as these two leaders head into the summit?

Speaker 6 Well, it's not letting up. This week, a small number of Russian troops slipped through Ukraine's defensive lines on the main battlefront in the east, near the town of Pakrovsk.

Speaker 6 Ukraine's military says it's tracking down these Russians and stabilizing the area.

Speaker 6 It notes that the Russian forces are operating in small groups of about a dozen or so fighters and don't have sufficient numbers to really hold territory.

Speaker 6 Now, this is just one town largely reduced to rubble, but it says a lot about the larger war. Russia has tried to take Pakrovsk for more than a year.

Speaker 6 I recall last August when the Russians advanced to within 10 miles. They've now surrounded it on three sides, but still haven't reached Pokhrovsk.
And this is a familiar scenario.

Speaker 6 A large Russian force making incremental gains and suffering huge casualties while Ukraine tries to hold the line.

Speaker 2 Okay, so that's a look at the ground war. What about the air war?

Speaker 6 Yeah, the new development here is Russia is unleashing waves of drones on most nights. Until this year, they'd fire off maybe a couple dozen a night.

Speaker 6 In July, Russia averaged more than 200 drones a night, many at civilian targets. Ukraine really has to scramble to put up a wide range of defenses.
Here's Air Force spokesman Yuri Anat.

Speaker 6 So he says Ukraine is destroying these incoming drones with helicopters, fighter jets, electronic jamming, machine guns, missiles fired from the ground, but some Russian drones still get through.

Speaker 6 Now, I should add that Ukraine is also on the offensive with its own drones. It strikes deep inside Russia at oil refineries and railway stations.

Speaker 6 It's targeting the Russian transportation network that's used to send ammunition and other supplies to its troops.

Speaker 2 Does Ukraine have enough weapons to sustain the fighting at current levels?

Speaker 6 President Volodymyr Zelensky said Ukraine needs more help when he offered a battlefield assessment this week.

Speaker 6 He said Ukraine still has the edge when it comes to drones, but Russia has a huge advantage in artillery. Now, he also spoke about casualties, which neither side discusses very often.

Speaker 6 He said Monday, for example, was fairly typical. Russian forces suffered nearly 1,000 dead, wounded, and captured.
Ukraine had a total of 340 in these combined categories.

Speaker 6 He said those casualty figures and the ratio with Russia losing about three times as many troops as Ukraine tends to be the norm.

Speaker 2 Okay, and it looks like Ukraine is not going to be part of the Friday's meeting. Does the leadership there expect this summit between the U.S.
and Russia will lead to any changes in this war?

Speaker 6 You know, the short answer is no, Leila. While there's talk of a possible ceasefire, Zelensky says Putin shows no sign of preparing for a truce.

Speaker 6 Zelensky met commanders this week, and they say Russia appears to be preparing for expanded military operations.

Speaker 6 The Ukrainians think Putin may offer some concession at the summit, perhaps a partial ceasefire for a limited period of time, but they fear they'll face pressure to make concessions, even though they're just a bystander at the summit.

Speaker 2 That's NPR's Greg Myri. Thank you, Greg.

Speaker 6 Sure thing, Layla.

Speaker 2 The Trump administration is spending more than a billion dollars to build a massive detention camp at Fort Bliss in Texas, near the border with Mexico.

Speaker 1 The 10 facility in El Paso is part of the effort to expand detention space needed to carry out mass deportations. The first detainees are scheduled to arrive on Sunday.

Speaker 2 Angela Cocherga, though, with member station KTEP, joins us with more details. Good morning.
Good morning. Okay, so this detention facility is projected to be the largest in the country.

Speaker 2 What can you tell us about it?

Speaker 7 Well, construction on the detention center is moving ahead very quickly at Fort Bliss. That's the Army's massive installation in El Paso.

Speaker 7 A few structures are visible from the road just outside the base, including a giant white tent.

Speaker 7 The camp will house single adults facing deportation, and according to ICE, the facility will open with 1,000 beds with plans to expand to 5,000.

Speaker 7 The administration has been criticized for conditions at some holding facilities across the country, but ICE says this camp will include access to legal representation, visitation, and medical treatment.

Speaker 2 Now, the Trump administration is moving quickly to expand detention space for immigrants facing deportation.

Speaker 2 There's the facility the Trump administration and Governor of Florida call alligator Alcatraz and detention centers in other states. So why is this massive camp also needed?

Speaker 7 Well, the administration says it's running out of space as it detains a record number of people. At the end of July, nearly 57,000 immigrants were in detention.

Speaker 7 Republican Senator John Cornyn of Texas visited El Paso this week to get a look at the construction, and he said the facility will house criminals.

Speaker 8 We're not talking about gardeners, housekeepers,

Speaker 8 or people like that. We're talking about individuals who are called criminal aliens, who are people either with criminal charges pending or criminal convictions.

Speaker 7 Now, of course, the Trump administration has said the focus is on criminals, but as we've seen, gardeners, day laborers, and restaurant workers have all been swept up in the administration's aggressive immigration crackdown.

Speaker 7 This new facility will hold immigrants from across the country who will then be put on ICE air deportation flights departing from Fort Bliss.

Speaker 7 So, the base will be a hub for processing, holding, and deporting people. Active duty soldiers will not be involved in operations at the detention camp.

Speaker 7 And this mega detention center will be just 40 miles away from another tent facility that held hundreds of teenage migrants during the first Trump administration.

Speaker 2 And how are locals responding?

Speaker 7 Well, it's complicated. You know, this border city has experienced immigration enforcement firsthand.
Also, people here have a very close relationship with Fort Bliss.

Speaker 7 There are a lot of veterans who live here. You know, some locals have voiced concerns about using the military base to carry out immigration enforcement.

Speaker 7 El Paso's Democratic Congresswoman Veronica Escobad is among those who also questioned the amount of money spent on this.

Speaker 9 $45 billion

Speaker 9 will be going into expanding immigration detention. Much of that money will go to private corporations.

Speaker 7 Now, this is a city that has advocated for immigrants. El Paso is also a city with lots of working families.

Speaker 7 And at a time when funding for education and health care is being cut, there's concern about the billions of dollars being spent on detention facilities like the one that's about to open at Fort Bliss.

Speaker 2 That's Angela Cocherga with member station KTEP. Thank you, Angela.

Speaker 7 Thank you, Layla.

Speaker 2 President Trump has named this year's Kennedy Center honorees and announced he would host the ceremony himself.

Speaker 1 This presidential first follows Trump's takeover of the huge Performing Arts center in February.

Speaker 1 He ousted the former leadership, appointed loyalists to a board that's traditionally been bipartisan, and they voted him as chair.

Speaker 1 Past honorees of what amounts to annual lifetime achievement awards in the arts include Francis Ford Coppola, Aretha Franklin, and Lynn-Manuel Miranda.

Speaker 2 NPR correspondent Elizabeth Blair joins me now to walk us through yesterday's announcement. Good morning.
Good morning.

Speaker 2 So earlier this year, Trump had floated a few names like Elvis Presley and Babe Ruth, but they didn't make the cut, right?

Speaker 10 That's right. This year's honorees are all living artists, as is tradition.

Speaker 10 There's disco pioneer Gloria Gaynor of I Will Survive fame, country megastar and proud Texan George Strait, actor Sylvester Stallone, who starred in Rocky and Rambo, Broadway actor and singer Michael Crawford, who originated the lead role in Phantom of the Opera, one of Trump's favorite shows, and the rock band Kiss.

Speaker 2 All right, so what's notable about these nominees?

Speaker 10 Quite a bit. For example, George Strait is considered one of the great country storytellers.
He's recorded dozens of hit songs, sold a gazillion albums, and his concerts fill stadiums.

Speaker 10 Sylvester Stallone is a household name. He's been nominated for three Academy Awards.
He made Rocky Balboa an iconic American character, but he is a Trump supporter publicly, and they are friends.

Speaker 10 Over the years, the Kennedy Center has tried to keep politics out of its programming and the honors event. That's one of the reasons there was traditionally a bipartisan board.

Speaker 10 Trump did not attend the honors during his first presidential term. At the press conference, this is what he said about getting so involved this year.

Speaker 3 I shouldn't make this political because they made the Academy Awards political and they went down the tubes.

Speaker 3 So they'll say Trump made it political, but I think if we make it our kind of political, we'll go up, okay? Let's see if I'm right about that.

Speaker 2 Okay, let's talk about the selection process. How are the honorees usually chosen?

Speaker 10 Traditionally, artists are nominated by lots of different people, members of the Kennedy Center Board, the general public, and past honorees.

Speaker 10 And those honorees include Herbie Hancock, Renee Fleming, Sally Field, major artists across the performing arts.

Speaker 10 The President of the United States was never intimately involved the way Trump has been this year. He even joked about it.

Speaker 3 The Kennedy Center honors have been among the most prestigious awards in the performing arts. I wanted one.
I was never able to get one. This year, it's true, actually.

Speaker 3 I would have taken it if they would have called me. I waited and waited and waited, and I said, to hell with it, I'll become chairman.

Speaker 10 Trump said he rejected some candidates who he called woesters, and he announced that he would host the honors gala in December.

Speaker 2 Anything else stand out to you?

Speaker 10 What stood out is how much the president seems passionate about the performing arts.

Speaker 10 He spoke very warmly about each of the honorees, and it stood out because he has proposed eliminating the arts and humanities endowments that support music and theater and other arts programs across the country.

Speaker 2 Elizabeth Blair is a correspondent on the NPR Culture Desk. Thanks Elizabeth.

Speaker 10 Thanks Layla.

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