Democrat In-Fighting; Conservative Media on Trump; Mahmoud Khalil's Wife Speaks

Speaker 1 No government shutdown for now.

Speaker 2 One key Democratic vote from Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer helped the Republican bill advance.

Speaker 1 And some of his fellow Democrats view that as wrong.

Speaker 2 I'm Aisha Roscoe.

Speaker 1 I'm Scott Simon, and this is up first from NPR News.

Speaker 2 The Republican spending bill narrowly passed the Senate last night with help from a few Democratic lawmakers.

Speaker 1 That move led to infighting in a party already in turmoil.

Speaker 3 We'll have more on that.

Speaker 2 Plus, conservative media usually puts a positive spin on President Trump's policies, but how are they covering the economic fallout?

Speaker 1 And we'll hear from the wife of a Palestinian graduate student and activist who faces deportation.

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Speaker 1 Another spending cycle, another barely avoided government shutdown after the Senate just managed to pass a partisan stopgap spending bill.

Speaker 2 But that was only possible with help from a few Democratic lawmakers, which has riled up their congressional colleagues.

Speaker 1 And pair congressional correspondent Barbara Sprunt joins us. Barbara, thanks for being with us.

Speaker 5 Hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 This was

Speaker 1 an abrupt shift from the minority leader, Chuck Schumer. What happened?

Speaker 5 That's right. Schumer had said Republicans didn't get input from Democrats when drafting this bill, and so they wouldn't get the Democratic votes they'd need to advance it.

Speaker 5 Instead, he wanted to pass a one-month funding bill to give them more time to negotiate a deal. But on Thursday, he made a U-turn and he said he was going to vote to advance the bill.

Speaker 5 Schumer and the nine other Democrats who ultimately voted alongside him argued the bill was bad, yes, but a government shutdown would be worse.

Speaker 5 They said it would enable President Trump and his top advisor, Elon Musk, to further gut federal agencies. And their support enabled Republicans to ultimately pass the bill largely along party lines.

Speaker 1 Barbara, would it be fair to say that Senator Schumer's colleagues just didn't see this coming?

Speaker 5 It would be fair. I was at a conference in Virginia with House Democrats when Schumer made this announcement.
I saw jaws drop. I saw heads shake.
Members were really upset.

Speaker 5 They said they felt betrayed because they had voted on this same bill earlier this week and all but one voted against it.

Speaker 5 It was a tough vote for a lot of members, particularly those in vulnerable districts. But the caucus banded together to present a united front and make a strong show of opposition.

Speaker 5 They said that the bill was essentially a blank check for Trump because it doesn't rein in the administration's efforts to cut spending that was previously approved by Congress.

Speaker 5 Here's New York Congressman Joe Morelli reacting to Schumer's comments.

Speaker 6 I think they're going to rue the day they make this decision. I think this just gives, you know, license to the Republicans to continue to dismantle the government.

Speaker 6 They now have the acquiescence of Senate Democrats.

Speaker 5 Members told me they were calling and texting their senators, imploring them not to vote alongside Schumer. So a lot of frustration and anger among House Democrats.

Speaker 1 Barbara, what's the implication of this rift among Democrats at a time when

Speaker 1 After all, Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House?

Speaker 5 House Democrats felt that they finally had some momentum, you know, as the opposition party. The vote over the shutdown was a rare and big piece of leverage for them.

Speaker 5 To have unity in the House and then have the Senate Democrats shift course at this late stage is a breakdown in strategy.

Speaker 5 And New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that it has implications, in her view, far beyond this one vote.

Speaker 7 There will be a day where the Senate will need the House to move on something.

Speaker 7 And if there is an erosion of trust and a breach of trust, such as what is being considered right now, it will make cooperation difficult.

Speaker 5 After the vote, she posted that the Democratic votes in the Senate were a, quote, fear-based, inexplicable abdication and that the Senate owns what happens next.

Speaker 5 You know, I talked to Democratic strategists about this yesterday, and they said that Senate leadership really misread what constituents want for Democrats to hold the line, even if it means a shutdown.

Speaker 5 There's concern that this emboldens the GOP, makes it harder for Democrats to present a unified message. Now, Congress is on recess next week.

Speaker 5 I expect Democrats will be getting an earful from constituents.

Speaker 1 And Pierre's Barbara Sprint, thanks so much.

Speaker 5 Thank you.

Speaker 2 President Trump can ordinarily count on the support of more conservative news outlets.

Speaker 1 But it's been tough to sugarcoat nosediving stocks and consumer confidence, trade wars, and a looming recession.

Speaker 2 NPR media correspondent David Fokenflick joins us now to tell us more. Good to have you, David.

Speaker 9 Thanks.

Speaker 2 Where are we starting to see some of this pushback?

Speaker 9 Well, let's set aside the never Trump or right. Let's start with the most important part of the conservative press, and that's the Murdoch media.

Speaker 9 There are really four big parts of that. There's the Wall Street Journal news section, the editorial pages, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, and of course, biggest of all, Fox News.

Speaker 9 All in various ways, some of it quite gentle, some of it less so, are pushing back on Trump on this, reflecting in the terms of the Wall Street Journal's, I think, rigorously reported news pages, reflecting their own coverage, but also in the other elements, fulfilling their brand promise to various constituencies they're trying to take care of, and also reflecting what Rupert Murdoch really wants, which is to kind of gently ease Trump into what he thinks is the right thing: predictable, stable markets, and not trade wars.

Speaker 2 So, what are they saying?

Speaker 9 Well, you've seen these big headlines in the Wall Street Journal reporting, you know, particularly on fears about chief executives and finance chiefs and real concerns about how consumers are hurting up and down the household income levels and how they're accelerating fears about what they can do.

Speaker 9 Take the New York Post's front page last week. You saw this huge cartoon of Trump plunging straight down the incline of a roller coaster headline, buckle up, markets plunge.

Speaker 9 You saw the Wall Street Journal's editorial page talking about tariffs.

Speaker 9 They called his moves on Canada and Mexico the dumbest trade war in history a few weeks ago and sort of doubled up a few days ago, repeating the line again.

Speaker 9 And then there's a very gentle explainer by Fox News anchor Brett Bayer explaining why tariffs don't really work the way the president claims that they actually end up really hitting the American consumer.

Speaker 9 And even Fox host Maria Bartaromo, a true Trump loyalist, here's what it sounded like when she mixed it up recently with Trump's commerce secretary, Howard Luttnick.

Speaker 10 I know you said you're not expecting a recession, but investors are on edge over the possibility of a recession this year after the Atlanta Federal Reserve said that it's predicting a 2.4% contraction in the first quarter.

Speaker 10 And of course, President Trump would not be able to.

Speaker 9 What, wait, wait, wait. Say it again.
A what?

Speaker 10 A what? The Atlanta Federal Reserve. Contraction? Correct.

Speaker 9 And that's somebody who goes out of her way to frame things in the best possible way for Trump most of the time. She just got an appointment from Trump to the board of the John F.

Speaker 9 Kennedy Center for Performing Arts.

Speaker 2 And how have other pro-Trump outlets covered this moment?

Speaker 9 I think you look at the four Ds, defend, deflect, deny, disregard. You've seen that in a bunch of right-wing pro-Trump outlets.
Take Newsmax's Rob Finnerty.

Speaker 9 He recently debated Ontario Premier Doug Ford about Canada's reaction to Trump's tariff moves. How is that fair?

Speaker 9 I think that Donald Trump just wants to get the best deal for the American consumer, even if that means some pain in the short term.

Speaker 9 There are other right-wing and pro-Trump sites that simply are focusing the blame on former President Joe Biden for whatever's going wrong now or might in the future.

Speaker 2 Well, what do you think the impact of this coverage will be?

Speaker 9 Well, I think these things are both a leading and a lagging indicator.

Speaker 9 They tell you where these outlets think their audiences are, and in the case of Fox, where they hope to get the president to, because they know few people are watching Fox and the media more closely than he does.

Speaker 2 That's NPR media correspondent David Folkenflick. David, thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 9 You pet.

Speaker 2 The Israeli government denies that its campaign against Hamas in Gaza amounts to genocide. South Africa is arguing in the International Court of Justice that it does.
The case is yet to be decided.

Speaker 1 It's an accusation that rang across the campus of Columbia University last year. Mahmoud Khalil was a prominent part of those protests as a student there.

Speaker 2 And for his role in those protests, Khalil has been taken into custody by immigration agents and is now facing deportation.

Speaker 1 His wife, Noor Abdallah, who is pregnant, gave her first broadcast interview to our colleague, Morning Edition co-host Layla Foddle.

Speaker 11 Thanks for having me, Scott.

Speaker 1 Tell us about the scene. Noor Abdallah was with her husband when he was detained last weekend.

Speaker 11 That's right, she was.

Speaker 11 And she said they were coming home from dinner, and as they unlocked the door of their apartment building, a man held it open behind them and asked her husband, are you Mahmoud Khalil?

Speaker 11 And I'll just play you a bit of what she says happened next.

Speaker 8 We were both like, what is happening, you know? And he says, I'm with the police. You have to come with us.

Speaker 8 I think at that point, like, honestly, like, my heart sank. Like,

Speaker 8 I want to say Mahmoud tried to prepare me. Like, two days before, he told me, like, do you know your rights if ice comes to your door?

Speaker 8 And I like brushed it off. I was like, what are you saying? Like, that's not going to happen, you know?

Speaker 11 But he was like, no, like, you you need to know and so at this point your heart is sinking and and what is happening in front of you um so

Speaker 8 mahmoud is trying to ask the officer well first he asked him like who are you with he said department of homeland security and then he asked him can i see a warrant the officer said he has one he's like it's on my phone but never really showed it to us And then Mahmoud was holding the keys that he had just used to open our apartment.

Speaker 8 And the officer was like, give the keys to your wife, basically. And I turned to the officer.
I was like, I'm not leaving him.

Speaker 8 And the officer goes, I'll arrest you too.

Speaker 1 But she's a U.S. citizen, right?

Speaker 11 Yeah. I mean, that's part of the reason she didn't take Mahmoud's warnings that he might be deported seriously.
She was born here. He's a lawful permanent resident.
He has a green card.

Speaker 11 And she says, as most Americans do, she believed they had the right. to say whatever they wanted.
And he was using that right to speak up about the treatment of his own people. He's Palestinian.

Speaker 11 And now Nora's in this position. She never could have imagined facing the possibility that she's going to have this baby while her husband is detained in Louisiana or possibly deported.

Speaker 1 The government is accusing him of supporting Hamas, which could amount to a violation of U.S. law.
What does she say about those accusations?

Speaker 11 Well, she says they've provided no evidence of that accusation because there isn't evidence. He's also never been charged with an actual crime.
That would be a crime if you provided support to Hamas.

Speaker 11 Here's more of what Nor said.

Speaker 8 I just want to be clear that the smears against Mahmoud are exactly that. They're smears.

Speaker 8 He has and always will stand up for what's right. And the way that he was taken from his family was

Speaker 8 not right.

Speaker 11 The government's actually arguing they can take his green card under a rarely used immigration provision, not because of a crime.

Speaker 11 I also asked her if her husband were allowed to return home tomorrow, let's say. Would she feel safe in the U.S.
after what's happened? And here's what she said.

Speaker 8 I love this apartment and I love the place that we live, but I think unfortunately unfortunately they kind of

Speaker 11 they took away that sense of security and that sense of safety at least for me and I wasn't sure if she'd lost her sense of safety in the apartment or the country so I asked and she said both and Pierre Lafadel thanks so much for being with us thanks for having me Scott

Speaker 2 And that's up first for Saturday, March 15th, 2025. I'm Aisha Roscoe.

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