Bad Romance: Web of Lies

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Speaker 2 A couple's dreams have just come true and their world is shattered in an afternoon.

Speaker 4 Could love put a family together or will everything be caught in a web of lies?

Speaker 6 On this very special day at this very special house, a very special little baby is going to come live with us. And who do we see but the Mari?

Speaker 4 A new beginning, a family built on love.

Speaker 9 Mark and Donna were sort of put on this pedestal as this beautiful young couple who had struggled to have kids and now they finally were able to adopt this three-month-old baby.

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Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 8 look.

Speaker 4 So sweet. Of course, these home movies are bittersweet.
They have no way of knowing that within just a few months, their beautiful new family unit will cease to exist.

Speaker 4 Donna Brown grows up in a family of sisters in Florida.

Speaker 12 Donna was the oldest of the three girls.

Speaker 14 She was outgoing, she loved life.

Speaker 13 Donna always said what was in her heart and in her mind.

Speaker 18 Mark's brother set Donna and Mark up on a blind date, and things moved pretty quickly.

Speaker 18 He was smart, Jewish, he was attractive, and he was fun. She just

Speaker 18 felt like she had found her person.

Speaker 18 We always joked about that when one sister marries, that husband marries three sisters.

Speaker 18 When Donna and Mark got married, he received a job offer that brought him to Springfield, Illinois.

Speaker 12 Mark and Donna had a very nice married life. He was a nuclear engineer.

Speaker 2 Donna Winger was a technician at Memorial Medical Center.

Speaker 12 The only thing was she would have liked to have had a child.

Speaker 13 Donna called up and she was hysterical.

Speaker 15 She had just found out that she could not get pregnant.

Speaker 19 And so when this didn't happen, it

Speaker 20 took a toll.

Speaker 19 There was a lot of tension in their home.

Speaker 12 Mark was unhappy for the fact that I know he wanted to have a big family.

Speaker 9 The way Bailey came into Donna's life is a really special story.

Speaker 4 Donna is working in the operating room when one of the doctors comes in and says there's a young teen mother who wants to put her baby up for adoption.

Speaker 21 And this was the baby that they were going to adopt.

Speaker 20 Doesn't she look pretty?

Speaker 22 She sure does.

Speaker 6 Hi, Bailey. Say hi, Grandma Sarah.

Speaker 8 Necky Coo.

Speaker 18 For my mother, becoming a grandmother was something that she had waited for for quite a while.

Speaker 22 Here's Grandma Dresser.

Speaker 4 New father Mark always seems to have the video camera in his hand.

Speaker 23 Mommy's feeling very comfortable these days with Bailey, and I think we've sort of fonded it a little bit.

Speaker 24 Oh, I think we fond it a lot.

Speaker 19 Mark was just as excited to become a dad as Donna was to become a mom.

Speaker 14 Jay with just a model American couple.

Speaker 21 Donna told me that Mark had a conference.

Speaker 13 I said to her, why don't you come to Florida? It would be so wonderful.

Speaker 21 Donna was excited to show off her baby and as all of her trips it was always very sad to see her go.

Speaker 25 Say hi Danny.

Speaker 25 Say we miss you.

Speaker 13 I dropped her off at the airport

Speaker 15 and she left.

Speaker 13 We had hired a driver to pick her up this way she could just take care of the baby.

Speaker 18 It was about about a two-hour drive

Speaker 18 and so this gentleman started opening up to Donna

Speaker 18 about issues he was having.

Speaker 18 He had a voice in his head named Dom.

Speaker 18 Recently, Dom was telling him to hurt people.

Speaker 29 And then he started flirting with her. saying that he liked older women and he liked to have sex parties.
And he invited Donna

Speaker 29 to join him.

Speaker 4 Donna describes a terrifying ride where the driver, a man named Roger Harrington, drove erratically at 75 miles an hour talking about demons with Donna and baby Bailey in the back seat.

Speaker 19 She calls me, she tells me this whole story and I said to her, you had a really crazy driver, but you're home, you're safe, you're going to be okay.

Speaker 19 She said, I really, I am really scared.

Speaker 11 After After the harrowing ride, Donna had been the victim of some strange phone calls. They had believed that the driver had been stalking her and was a danger.

Speaker 18 So Mark started calling the limousine company and filing a complaint.

Speaker 11 Roger got suspended from his job because of the complaint.

Speaker 4 Mark suggests Donna write down the full account of her ride with Roger to get the facts down. Less than a week later, 911 operators receive a terrifying call.

Speaker 4 Emergency, emergency! It's me.

Speaker 4 Did you need my wife?

Speaker 8 I shot him.

Speaker 8 Please tell me. He was killing my life.

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Speaker 11 On August 29th, 1995, the Springfield Police Department responded to a 911 call.

Speaker 26 Is the man still in your house? Yes, he's laying there on the floor with a bullet in his head.

Speaker 11 When they arrived, they found a very grisly scene. Donna was clinging to life.
She had been hit no less than seven times in the head with a hammer.

Speaker 29 The second victim was an unknown white male lying on the floor.

Speaker 11 He still had signs of life and a pulse with two gunshot wounds to the head.

Speaker 29 In his wallet, he had a driver's license, which identified him as Roger Arrington.

Speaker 29 I proceeded back to the master bedroom to talk with the husband, Mark Winger. He kept asking, who's that man that was in my house?

Speaker 29 And even though I knew who it was, I did not want to let him know at that point. We got him calmed down.
Then we started getting into

Speaker 29 what had occurred.

Speaker 36 He was working out downstairs on his treadmill when he had heard a thump upstairs.

Speaker 29 When he got to the master bedroom, he seen his three-month-old child laying on the bed, which he said Donna would have never done.

Speaker 11 He then said he heard noises which made him believe that Donna was in distress.

Speaker 29 So at that point he got his semi-automatic weapon out of the nightstand.

Speaker 36 And as he walked down the hallway he observed a man beating her with a hammer.

Speaker 29 The male subject looked up at him and then lowered his head again to take another swing at his wife. And that's when he shot him.

Speaker 29 At one point he said is that guy's name Roger?

Speaker 29 And at that point I felt that I needed to answer his question. I told him yes, his name was Roger Harrington.

Speaker 11 And Mark was shocked and he said, oh my god, that's the man who's been harassing my wife this week.

Speaker 4 An officer sees that note Donner wrote. It's on the fridge.
He introduced himself as Roger. He told me things like, dumb makes him do things, like set car bombs and killing people.

Speaker 29 It got us up the speed on why they were worried about this guy and why this guy came to his house. I owned a trailer park in town and him and his wife rented a trailer from me.

Speaker 29 Roger and his wife had had domestic disputes that I had to get involved in. Knowing what I knew about Mr.
Harrington in the past, how quick he was to anger,

Speaker 29 I thought that he very well could have went over there to try to get his job back. And he snapped.

Speaker 29 I told Mark that he had done everything he could to try and save his wife.

Speaker 29 But we still needed to tell him that his wife had passed away.

Speaker 12 It was around 11.03 on a Tuesday evening when all of a sudden we got a phone call.

Speaker 10 I remember screaming, Ira, tell me, tell me what is wrong.

Speaker 7 And finally he said to me, Sarah Jane,

Speaker 16 Donna was murdered.

Speaker 30 And I said to him, murdered, what are you talking about?

Speaker 15 And then I finally said to him, we have to tell the girls.

Speaker 16 And I have to break their hearts.

Speaker 15 And Wednesday morning, we were on an 8 o'clock plane to Springfield.

Speaker 12 When Mark walked in with the baby in his hand, everybody cried.

Speaker 18 We had heard right away that it was Roger.

Speaker 17 I couldn't imagine what an evil person he was and why he would do such a horrendous thing.

Speaker 11 When the police examined the scene and when they listened to Mark's explanation of what happened, the detectives came to the conclusion that Mark Winger acted in self-defense and the case was closed within approximately 48 hours.

Speaker 10 My mother and I started to go to Illinois. We were taking turns in taking care of the baby.

Speaker 4 Donna's family reports that during this time period, Mark was withdrawn. He was drinking a lot and watching violent movies.

Speaker 10 I didn't understand it, but I loved him because he loved Donna.

Speaker 15 And that's what was important to me.

Speaker 19 We needed to get him some help.

Speaker 7 So I suggested to Mark that he hire a nanny.

Speaker 20 And in comes Rebecca, this young, beautiful, tall, blonde nanny who

Speaker 20 has a heart of gold, wants to help out this poor man.

Speaker 37 This is Rebecca Interview Take One, Sawsticks.

Speaker 5 This is the first time I've sat down to tell my story.

Speaker 8 Baby, you look the best.

Speaker 5 I was going to become her nanny or governess.

Speaker 23 Can you say hi?

Speaker 5 I would move into the home and take care of her basic needs, and I just felt like she deserved the best.

Speaker 10 Mark asked me to show her her all the things about the baby and I felt really good about that.

Speaker 23 They had.

Speaker 18 Seeing her with Bailey, there was really nothing bad we could say about her.

Speaker 23 Stand up here. Show grandma how you stand in your crib.

Speaker 5 I was blown away at what this little girl had been through.

Speaker 23 Can you say hi?

Speaker 5 It was a big responsibility, but I was ready for her. Bailey made me a mom and sometimes a child has to appear for the mom to be created.

Speaker 22 There she is, most beautiful girl in the world.

Speaker 8 There she is.

Speaker 26 Someone's here, baby. Someone's here.

Speaker 26 Good afternoon for you.

Speaker 5 When you live with someone and you're taking care of a child together.

Speaker 32 Knock him down. She only does that with me.

Speaker 5 It's very easy to kind of play house.

Speaker 5 You're already put in those roles.

Speaker 13 Mark called up one day and he said to me, I just want to tell you some good news. The nanny was pregnant.

Speaker 30 And I thought, oh my God, what is happening here?

Speaker 5 When I first met Mark, Bailey Elizabeth,

Speaker 22 happy Father's Day, dear daddy.

Speaker 5 He was just a provider and a protector and just a stand-up guy.

Speaker 22 You were hungry.

Speaker 5 There was nights where we would sit up talking and having wine.

Speaker 18 The relationship between Rebecca and Mark grew from a business relationship to a romantic relationship.

Speaker 5 And I remember asking him how he could move on so quickly, and he explained to me that when you have a good marriage, it's natural for you just to want that again.

Speaker 8 Grab the cookie.

Speaker 4 Now, Mark's home movies show a family remaking itself.

Speaker 26 Look at Daddy. Say hi, Daddy.

Speaker 22 Danie's been walking for about a week. Go see him.
Hi, sweetheart.

Speaker 5 Mark had always told me that he was not capable of having children.

Speaker 5 I was very surprised to find out I was pregnant. He was thrilled.
He was absolutely thrilled.

Speaker 5 Mark put pressure on me to marry him and have children with him

Speaker 5 immediately. He started going to church with me to persuade me that we could have that life.

Speaker 5 He writes to me, I love you, you love me, and you're pregnant with our child.

Speaker 5 I believe that you and I together can raise a family in a truly Christian home.

Speaker 5 I would be honored to be your husband and blessed if you were my wife.

Speaker 5 Mark and I eloped.

Speaker 5 We went to Maui and it was kind of a secret and a surprise and I didn't even tell my own family.

Speaker 36 Here's Mrs. Winger.

Speaker 25 I'm filmed for the first time.

Speaker 18 It was just

Speaker 18 so hurtful in knowing that

Speaker 18 In his life, Donna could be replaced so easily.

Speaker 19 I said to myself, What?

Speaker 30 Now Rebecca's pregnant?

Speaker 20 Now they're gonna go into Hawaii and getting married?

Speaker 30 Like, seriously, can I say it on camera? What the f?

Speaker 4 They move to a house in the country for a new start away from that room where Donna was killed.

Speaker 4 They have three more children of their own, and home videos show all of the milestones you'd expect for a growing family.

Speaker 22 Where's Anna?

Speaker 5 I was so busy with life and kids. We were just living our best lives.

Speaker 4 For Donna's mother, seeing Mark with Rebecca and her granddaughter is bittersweet.

Speaker 5 Sometimes when Sarah Jane would be around Bailey, she would just cry because she would see Bailey and she would just want so badly to share that with Donna and she would just get emotional.

Speaker 5 That bothered Mark because he didn't want her to cry around Bailey.

Speaker 10 I remember visiting the new house.

Speaker 12 Sarah Jane had the baby in her arms and she had a necklace that had Donna's significance on it.

Speaker 5 She wanted to put it on Bailey and it upset Mark.

Speaker 12 Mark said, Mom, could you please take the necklace off? It makes me feel bad. That was the first instance where we felt that Mark said something that was inappropriate.

Speaker 5 That was kind of the beginning of the end.

Speaker 13 I received a letter from Mark one day saying to me, I could not be called grandma.

Speaker 10 So I wrote him back and I begged him, please let her call me grandma.

Speaker 17 And he said, I'm sorry, there's no way that I am going to allow her to call you grandma.

Speaker 21 And that's the way it is.

Speaker 18 We really all decided together that we just couldn't continue enduring this type of pain.

Speaker 18 And Mark was somebody that we just no longer knew.

Speaker 30 Every year for my birthday, they would always send a birthday card. And I always remember asking my mom, who's Sarah, Jane, and Ira?

Speaker 30 And my mom would always explain: like, those are Donna's parents, and they just, you know, want to let you know that, like, they love you and that they remember you.

Speaker 5 Mark wanted to go and be checked out at the emergency room because he wasn't feeling well. And I looked over in the waiting room and I saw Deanne.

Speaker 4 Deanne had been Donna's best friend and was in so many of their home movies. She was close to the family before Donna died.

Speaker 38 They have your Aunt Deanne.

Speaker 8 There's Deanne.

Speaker 5 And she glared at me like she was just very angry.

Speaker 4 Donna's old friend had something to reveal, something Mark had left out of the story. And without that moment at the emergency room, the case might have stayed closed.

Speaker 36 Deanne Schultz's statements were an absolute bombshell.

Speaker 12 Now that this woman came forward, hello, there's your motive.

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Speaker 31 Mom Talk started as a sisterhood, and that's gone to flames. New secrets and lies are coming out.
This is going to be catastrophic.

Speaker 32 We're fighting for our marriages, and the girls are just putting us through hell.

Speaker 25 They make everything about themselves.

Speaker 35 I can't.

Speaker 31 Hopefully, this doesn't end in a bloodbath.

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Speaker 5 I see here on the bottom of the stairs the Winger Inn established 1996, which was the the year that we got married.

Speaker 5 Everything was supposed to be perfect, just like in this picture.

Speaker 5 But I have learned that things just aren't always what they seem.

Speaker 9 It's been three and a half years since Donna was murdered and Mark's married and has a couple kids and Donna's family is still sort of dealing with their grief.

Speaker 4 Right after that chance encounter in the hospital waiting room, when Donna's best friend Deanne sees Mark and Rebecca, Deanne goes to the police with a clue they never had.

Speaker 11 Deanne Schultz explained to the police that she had been having an affair with Mark Wener prior to the murder of Donna Wener.

Speaker 18 Mark was having a romantic relationship with Deanne,

Speaker 18 one of our sisters, as we considered her, and that was something that we never ever suspected.

Speaker 4 In home videos from that time, Deanne really seems like a member of the family. Remember, she's on Deanne.

Speaker 23 This is my just the sweetest little niece.

Speaker 11 Deanne Schultz also stated that prior to the murders, Mark made a number of incriminating statements.

Speaker 9 She tells them that he said things like, it would be easier for us to be together if Donna just died. All you'd have to do is come in and find the body.

Speaker 11 Deanne stated that she declined to participate in that.

Speaker 11 After Mark learned about the trip that Donna took with Roger Harrington, he told Deanne, I've got to get that driver in my house.

Speaker 2 Deanne said the day of the murder, he called and said, will you love me no matter what? To which she replied, yes, I would.

Speaker 2 Mark and Deanne continued their affair for about six months after the murder, and of course, at which point he had already hired Rebecca as the nanny.

Speaker 4 Deanne struggled to make sense of the information that only she knew. It weighed on her and left her in a fragile state.

Speaker 11 Deanne Schultz, after the murders, her life went on a downward spiral to the point to where she had engaged in multiple suicide attempts.

Speaker 36 She never came forward until that chance encounter at that local hospital.

Speaker 11 That was a catalyst that caused her for the first time to reach out to someone other than her physician to discuss the case.

Speaker 11 Now the police were able to look at that case through an entirely different perspective, through the eyes of a man who was unhappy in his marriage. Now we have a motive.

Speaker 11 The first step when you reopen a closed case is to go back and look at what you already have.

Speaker 7 Now approaching the entrance.

Speaker 9 There are several pieces of evidence that they're looking at that just don't sit well with the detectives as they're re-examining everything.

Speaker 4 Things they'd noticed at the scene now take on a new meaning. For example, Roger brought his cigarettes and his coffee mug into the house.

Speaker 2 Who would do that if they were planning on killing someone?

Speaker 36 There was no signs of forced entry.

Speaker 36 Not only that, but Roger Harrington left what was clearly could be used as weapons inside the vehicle.

Speaker 11 There was a tire iron. They also found a knife inside of his vehicle.

Speaker 2 Why would Roger come into the house with mayhem on his mind and just happen to find a hammer on the table?

Speaker 11 Mark Winger wanted to kill his wife and then opportunity presented when Roger Harrington drove Donna Winger.

Speaker 11 And he told Deanne that he needed to get that man into his house, and that's exactly what he did.

Speaker 9 One of the first officers to arrive at the scene had a Polaroid in his vehicle and he happened to take three photos of the scene.

Speaker 9 They showed the positions of the bodies before the bodies were rushed to the hospital.

Speaker 4 And when investigators take a look at those Polaroids they realize something isn't adding up.

Speaker 11 Mark Winger had stated that Roger Harrington was kneeling down right next to Donna Winger's head and he was beating her with a hammer.

Speaker 11 He stated that he shot him and that the man fell backwards so that his feet remained near Donna's head. In reality, the Polaroid photographs show the exact opposite.

Speaker 11 And as such, there's no way this murder could have happened the way Mark Winger described.

Speaker 36 The physical evidence, along with the fact of the affair, it was clear that this was a staged domestic homicide.

Speaker 9 They had to come to a reckoning with themselves that they had made a mistake.

Speaker 15 The detective said to me, I just wanted to tell you that we now suspect Mark to be the murderer of Donna.

Speaker 15 And I said to him, what are you saying?

Speaker 15 That's not possible.

Speaker 5 It went from Winger as a hero who was defending his wife to manipulative, deviant murderers.

Speaker 4 Investigators now go back to Roger Harrington's roommate.

Speaker 36 Susan Collins had been briefly spoken to initially, and she had claimed that she was present when Roger Harrington fielded a phone call from someone asking to meet him the day of the murders.

Speaker 11 Police found a note inside of the vehicle. It was a bank deposit slip, and on the back was the time of 4.30 p.m., the address, and the name Mark Winger.

Speaker 11 Roger Harrington was not an intruder, but rather he was lured into that home by Mark Winger.

Speaker 41 Roger's name would be cleared. That was one of the biggest reliefs I had, just knowing that

Speaker 41 people would not think that my little brother was a killer. Mr.

Speaker 24 Winger

Speaker 24 made some comments about

Speaker 24 perhaps it would be easier if his wife were dead.

Speaker 5 I didn't see it coming. I didn't know that this whole investigation was brewing.
I never thought the whole time that they thought my husband was a diabolical murderer.

Speaker 23 Here she comes.

Speaker 23 Here comes the world's best daddy.

Speaker 5 I remember making it to 2001 and thinking,

Speaker 5 I think we're okay. It's been a whole year and then they still haven't arrested him.
They must not have a case.

Speaker 11 We were conducting an exhaustive investigation. During that same time frame, Mark Winger was a free man.

Speaker 4 And when you look at their home videos, Mark just looks like a normal dad raising four happy kids.

Speaker 32 You don't blow a kiss to daddy, bro, daddy kiss.

Speaker 2 People still wanted to give Mark the benefit of the doubt because he now had a new wife and a new family and had shown no indication of being a criminal since his wife was murdered.

Speaker 11 We knew the stakes of this case. This was a big case and it was one that on the front end some mistakes had been made.
So we knew that on the second go-around we had to have it right.

Speaker 4 But the evidence mounts and two years of pouring over the evidence gives investigators enough to get an arrest warrant.

Speaker 5 I got a phone call and it was Mark's secretary and she told me that Mark had just been arrested and the whole body just kind of went numb.

Speaker 9 To see him finally get arrested and indicted, I think people were just absolutely shocked.

Speaker 30 I was six years old when my dad was arrested, and I just remember like everyone just trying to remain calm and kind of at the time be like dad's just going away for a while and that he'll be back soon.

Speaker 11 The moment he was indicted, we move from the investigative phase into the next chapter, which was prosecution.

Speaker 30 After dad was arrested, he was always writing us letters. Bailey, I remember the very first time I ever held you in my arms.
You were so small, but I fell in love with you immediately.

Speaker 5 I felt that I owed it to him and to my kids to just stand by him.

Speaker 5 Nobody wants to go through a murder trial.

Speaker 5 It's very surreal.

Speaker 5 I just had to tell myself: walk, sit down, don't fall, don't cry. In my mind, Mark was innocent before.
He was innocent from the start. That's what everybody thought.

Speaker 37 Winger said he found Harrington beating his wife with a hammer, and to save her, he shot Harrington twice in the head.

Speaker 5 Well, I don't think that Roger would have ever done what they accused him of doing.

Speaker 5 All we wanted was his name cleared, you know.

Speaker 4 Key for the prosecution, evidence that Roger Harrington had come to the house only because Mark had asked him to, not to kill Donna.

Speaker 4 If he'd wanted to kill her, why bring in his cigarettes? Why bring in his coffee mug and a note with the name Mark Winger, the address, and the time.

Speaker 11 And for us, it was very simple. If If it's a meeting, it's a murder.

Speaker 9 Mark's attorney argued that Roger was mentally ill. He had this mask that he sort of worshipped.
That he had had other erratic behavior and that he was capable of this.

Speaker 9 They put on their own experts to verify this.

Speaker 2 Mark's defense was that everything occurred just the way he said and the Polaroids he tried to explain away

Speaker 2 that perhaps the paramedics moved the bodies.

Speaker 36 It's our belief that Roger comes to the house, he is allowed into the home, and there was no signs of forced entry,

Speaker 36 and he was executed at that time.

Speaker 36 Hearing the gunshot, Donna Winger then comes from the bedroom to investigate.

Speaker 36 He then beats his wife to death with a hammer.

Speaker 36 Mark then calls 911.

Speaker 16 Is the man still in your house? Yes, he's laying there on the floor with a bullet in his head. Did you shoot him? Yes, I shot him.

Speaker 26 He was killing my wife.

Speaker 2 The 911 call to most people, I think, showed that Mark was very upset and very worried about his wife. Who is this man?

Speaker 2 I don't know who he is.

Speaker 11 In the 911 call, you can actually hear Roger Harrington moaning in the background.

Speaker 11 Is he dead? I don't know. He's making weird sounds.

Speaker 36 It's our belief that Roger is not dead at the time.

Speaker 11 He told the 911 operator that he could hear his baby crying.

Speaker 36 He had already said that he had shot the man and there was a bullet in his head.

Speaker 4 When police arrive,

Speaker 4 there's two bullets in his head.

Speaker 4 And then there's the evidence from the woman Mark was having an affair with.

Speaker 38 He said that, you know, it would be easier if Donna just died. I thought it was crazy talk.

Speaker 9 Deanne testified to some of the statements that Mark had made after the chance meeting at Doctor's Hospital where they run into each other.

Speaker 38 I just said, you know, how do you live with yourself? He said that he had found Jesus Christ and that he was forgiven. He, well, he told me that if I told anybody, our gooses will be cooked.

Speaker 11 Deanne Schultz's testimony was able to demonstrate that in reality, Mark was obviously unhappy, was unfaithful, and who had specifically talked about wanting to kill his wife.

Speaker 2 The defense had answers to Deanne's testimony that she was emotionally unstable, could have been a woman scorn.

Speaker 5 I didn't think that anybody would believe her, and I just thought if that was truly the case and Mark truly did that, she would have come forward right away.

Speaker 11 Deanne Schultz was granted immunity for her testimony.

Speaker 11 There was no direct evidence that linked Deanne to actively participating in this crime, but at the end, she was such a valuable witness as it relates to presenting the motive.

Speaker 9 When the case went to the jury, I was sort of thinking you never know. You just had to wait it out.
And, you know, it was really nerve-wracking.

Speaker 5 I really believe that at the end of that trial, he was going to walk out and walk home with us.

Speaker 4 It takes 13 hours to deliberate, and then the judge announces the verdict.

Speaker 18 I instinctively just wailed out loud.

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Speaker 40 It started with a phone call in in the early hours of the morning.

Speaker 4 911, what is the address of your emergency?

Speaker 40 A terrified woman tells the operator she's been kidnapped, assaulted, and that she's trapped in a room with her attacker.

Speaker 40 He's fallen asleep, so she quietly and ever so carefully finds his phone and calls for help.

Speaker 31 Is there any way you can get out of the building?

Speaker 8 I don't know without waking him. I'm scared.

Speaker 40 This 911 call began an investigation that would turn the town of Ashland into a crime scene.

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Speaker 18 When we found out that the jury had come up with a verdict, our hearts were racing. We had pits in our stomach.

Speaker 15 I know I was sitting next to my husband when I heard the judge

Speaker 32 say that the verdict was guilty.

Speaker 5 It just kind of rings in your head and echoes guilty, guilty, guilty.

Speaker 5 I didn't understand how 12 jurors could be so certain that that's how it went down when I had so many questions.

Speaker 10 Heartbreak came first.

Speaker 10 Anger

Speaker 19 came second.

Speaker 19 Acceptance

Speaker 20 came third.

Speaker 19 And sadness never ends.

Speaker 15 My First thought was to turn around and give Mr. and Mrs.
Harrington a hug

Speaker 13 because they buried a son who the whole city of Springfield felt was a murderer.

Speaker 5 We knew that Roger was innocent and it finally got proven.

Speaker 5 He was branded a murderer at the time, but then all this came to an end.

Speaker 29 I was ashamed of the way the investigation went. I hurt Roger Harrington's family.
I

Speaker 29 run this kid through, his name through hell, for no reason.

Speaker 29 I mean, he was an innocent victim.

Speaker 11 And to right such a wrong,

Speaker 4 it felt great.

Speaker 23 Say bye-bye. Bye, Daddy.

Speaker 30 We were so convinced that, you know, our dad was going to come home, and now he's not.

Speaker 10 He is like a chameleon.

Speaker 21 I believe that Mark is a monster.

Speaker 37 The final chapter of the Mark Winger murder trial comes to a close as Winger is given his sentencing.

Speaker 10 Mark was sentenced to life in prison with no parole.

Speaker 13 He had two counts against him, one for Donna, one for Roger.

Speaker 5 It wasn't just him being sentenced to life. We were sentenced to a life of a father in prison.

Speaker 5 I do feel that that whole time, Mark was giving a grand performance. I could never come back and say, oh, he got angry at me or he was rough with the kids.
I had nothing. I had nothing.

Speaker 4 He was perfect.

Speaker 26 Daddy loves Bailey. Okay, let me see a kiss.
Close-up kiss. Close-up kiss.
Give daddy a kiss.

Speaker 39 The first thought I thought when I was watching that was how much more, Bailey, this has affected you. And you just remember so much more about Mark and that family unit and that house.

Speaker 30 Looking at like the pictures and the videos, it's like it just all feels so fake to me.

Speaker 9 I just learn him as this evil character.

Speaker 28 So like even though it looks like a genuine smile here, it's just like in my head, it's like, oh, that's all fiction.

Speaker 5 I was married to a murderer. Then after he was convicted, I went from being a stay-home mom to being homeless overnight.

Speaker 5 I didn't have anything to give my kids. Everything had been taken away.
All I had was love.

Speaker 4 And the gift of her maiden name.

Speaker 5 Do you remember when we changed your names from Winger to Simon?

Speaker 28 I do. I think, yeah, it gave us a lot of pride as a family.

Speaker 40 When we changed changed our name, it was just a fresh start.

Speaker 39 And it's so symbolic, like, I'm not a winger, so that shouldn't be the name I'm called.

Speaker 18 Rebecca felt that it might be helpful for Bailey to come meet us, that it was time.

Speaker 5 I think the last time they saw Bailey was when she was three,

Speaker 5 maybe.

Speaker 5 I thought they could teach her about Donna and her love in a way that I couldn't.

Speaker 18 We knew that this would have been Donna's wish,

Speaker 10 that Bailey would continue to be a part of our lives.

Speaker 30 Sarah Jane still has my baby picture on her kitchen counter with all of her other grandkids.

Speaker 5 It was also Bailey's birthday that weekend, and

Speaker 5 they wanted to throw a birthday party for Bailey for all the birthdays that they had missed.

Speaker 5 We'd been hurt a lot by the same person, but it didn't break us.

Speaker 4 In 2022, Winger's appellate attorneys told us that his appeal had been denied. He is currently serving two life sentences for the murders of Donna Winger and Roger Harrington.

Speaker 41 There's not a day that goes by that I don't.

Speaker 20 don't. I think about him.

Speaker 41 I miss him.

Speaker 41 If I seen him right now, I would just tell him, though, you know,

Speaker 41 I truly love you.

Speaker 7 There is never

Speaker 7 closure when somebody murders your daughter. Never.
I think of Donna every day of my life. You've set up a fund in her name so that we can help other people.

Speaker 18 Donna's fund is a part of Women in Distress, a shelter women can go to to escape those abusive relationships. I think her legacy will live on through the people that we help.

Speaker 28 She was so beautiful and you could

Speaker 30 like see how much she loved me and how much she really

Speaker 16 wanted me.

Speaker 23 So we'll say bye-bye for now. See you

Speaker 15 I miss hearing her voice.

Speaker 15 Nothing that we've done or will do in the future

Speaker 15 will ever replace her.

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