All-In x Kill Tony: A Hilarious Holiday Special
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(15:01) Interview: Kill Tony success, MSG rally, origin story, free speech in Europe
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Speaker 1
Honestly, I think this is like the most fun Christmas party we've had. Ever.
Ever.
Speaker 1 And probably the most fun event we've ever had is because of Tony here.
Speaker 1 Please welcome the one, the only Tony Inch Queen.
Speaker 1 What the fuck's up, you goddamn nerds?
Speaker 1 Tony, any chance we could play Kill Tony tonight? You guys want to play Kill Tony here?
Speaker 1 So you guys prepared for this? You know how it works? We know how it works. I don't know if we're prepared.
Speaker 1 I wasn't expecting to have to do this tonight, but I think I just found a new golden ticket winner.
Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up for your
Speaker 1 bestie.
Speaker 1 David Freeborn.
Speaker 1 and Frankie Kinyon Jason Calla Kells
Speaker 1 Best Ace of Code 13.
Speaker 1 That is my dog league and I want to share driveway sets.
Speaker 1 Well welcome everybody to the second annual all-in holiday party.
Speaker 1 Yes, thank you for coming.
Speaker 1
This is going to be an incredible lineup. We've got, God, so many great moments for you tonight.
Unfortunately, unfortunately, Chamoff couldn't make it tonight.
Speaker 1 I know it's hard, it's hard, but we have a pretty great replacement that you're going to love.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 yeah, Freyberg, tell him what's coming. Hold on, let me get my script.
Speaker 1
Wow, wait, do the professional. Do the sponsor shout out.
Oh, yeah, let me do the sponsor shout-out so you don't do it and we lose them.
Speaker 1 I would like to thank thank Google Cloud for their incredible servers.
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Give them a big round of applause. You're gonna have a great night.
Man, the casino, everything is here.
Speaker 1 Tonight, we are gonna have the legendary Bestie Awards.
Speaker 1 We have some roasting, and we are all going to play Kill Tony. What?
Speaker 1
We're going to play Kill Tony? We are going to play Kill Tony. Oh, thanks for letting me know.
How many here are big fans of Kill Tony?
Speaker 1 Oh,
Speaker 1 that's incredible. Well, then,
Speaker 1
let's just bring out the one. Chamat's replacement.
Chamat's permanent replacement on the program. The three of us voted him off the island.
Please welcome the one, the only Tony Hinchcliffe.
Speaker 1 Here.
Speaker 1 Oh my God.
Speaker 1 Look at this.
Speaker 1 Star power.
Speaker 1 Fuck yeah.
Speaker 1 Thank you sir. Thank you sir.
Speaker 1 What the fuck's up you goddamn nerds
Speaker 1 How about a hand for the all-in podcast Christmas party?
Speaker 1
We're here in San Francisco. Make some noise.
Do you guys live here in San Francisco?
Speaker 1 What a shithole.
Speaker 1 It's actually worse than a shithole.
Speaker 1 You could actually use a shithole here to put the shit into
Speaker 1 that's on the streets. A shithole would be an actual upgrade.
Speaker 1 It used to be so beautiful here. You guys remember, remember the intro to Full House?
Speaker 1 That house is still full because 23 Somalians live in it now.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Put your phones away, you assholes. You can watch this on video form later, you fucking dorks.
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Everybody wants their own exclusive. I'm going to make it tonight.
I'm going to have a, I'm going to have my YouTube channel's going to get extra hits.
Speaker 1 California, more homeless people than any other state.
Speaker 1 People are struggling, and you assholes paid 500 bucks to watch billionaires talk to each other.
Speaker 1 God bless America.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Look, billionaires don't have it easy. Do you have any idea how hard it is for a billionaire to pretend like they like their kids?
Speaker 1 I had to research these guys and it was the most exhausting thing I've ever done. Absolute dorks.
Speaker 1 But then I watched Mountain Head on the plane and then Big Bang Theory and Succession and then Brokeback Mountain.
Speaker 1 And I think I figured it out.
Speaker 1 As many of you know, these gentlemen started the all-in podcast at the beginning of the COVID pandemic. It saw massive success very quickly, which makes sense.
Speaker 1 People were isolated and looking for relatable content. And what's more relatable than four venture capitalists playing high-stakes poker?
Speaker 1 Their combined net worth of the four hosts is over three billion dollars.
Speaker 1 You guys realize you don't have to do a podcast, right?
Speaker 1 Jake Out does.
Speaker 1 Whenever anyone is asked what they would do if they had a billion dollars, I've never heard the answer, attend weekly Zoom calls.
Speaker 1 I do love the current landscape of podcasts, though. Like, how is my show even considered on the same playing field as what you guys do? It's crazy, right?
Speaker 1 You can listen to four experts educated on economics and technology, and within seconds, you can switch over to my show and listen to an Elon Musk impersonator roasting an aspiring comedian with cerebral palsy.
Speaker 1 These guys are all actual friends with Elon Musk. They told me that backstage and then they told me their names.
Speaker 1 Our friend Elon, of course, got some criticism from the left at the beginning of this year when he was accused of doing a Nazi salute.
Speaker 1 He said he didn't do a Nazi salute, but that it was a Roman salute. He could have just said it was an awkward wave and people would have accepted that.
Speaker 1 I don't know if Roman salute is the best alternative. He went with behind the Nazis the group who has killed the most Jews, including Jesus himself.
Speaker 1 That's like being accused of visiting Epstein's Island and having an alibi that you were touring Thailand with Bill Gates.
Speaker 1 Can you guys tell Elon to use his rockets for for something positive like immigration? Do you have any idea how fast you can get illegal immigrants back to where they came from on a fucking rocket?
Speaker 1 I looked into this. It's 26 seconds from here to Tijuana, Mexico.
Speaker 1 It's simple. You take the rocket, you fill it with illegal immigrants, you blast that bitch up in the air, right? You let Elon do his fancy little parallel parking thing that he likes to do.
Speaker 1 You empty the illegal immigrants, you fill it with avocados.
Speaker 1 Yes, no tariffs on these avocados.
Speaker 1 These are the ideas.
Speaker 1 There are some critics on the left that say the hosts of All In are all too conservative, calling it an echo chamber.
Speaker 1 An echo chamber is also how Marjorie Taylor Greene's ex-husband refers to her pussy.
Speaker 1 We may have to edit that one out, don't we?
Speaker 1 Immigrant jokes are okay, but big pussy jokes aren't. What kind of party are you running here? But seriously, it is an honor to be here at the Christmas party.
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Remember, everyone, Santa is watching to see who's naughty or nice. And you don't want to end up on his naughty list.
Then again, that would be the second worst list J Cal ended up on.
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JCAL. His net worth is $60 million.
So on this podcast, he's known as the broke-ass bitch.
Speaker 1 He was an early investor in Uber, and out of everyone up here, he's the closest one to having to be one of the drivers.
Speaker 1 He refers to himself as the greatest podcast moderator in the world.
Speaker 1 The people cheering are the people that have not seen my show.
Speaker 1 If you get to call yourself the greatest podcast moderator in the world, then I get to say that I'm a virtue signaling angel investor liberal cuck.
Speaker 1 That's what you are.
Speaker 1 I get to do it.
Speaker 1 Fun fact, Candace Owens thinks that the leader of France's wife has a bigger dick than Jay Cow.
Speaker 1 His angel list flex is the startup equivalent of that guy who won't stop talking about his high school football championship.
Speaker 1 Oh, okay, lost you on the angel investor joke. All right, that's surprising.
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Puerto Rico, very good. Good, sir.
Thank you. We're trying to forget about that.
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J Cal and I don't have much in common. I'm a centrist, slightly right-leaning person, and he's a full-on liberal.
The only thing we have in common is that liberals don't like us.
Speaker 1 Chamath couldn't make it, which is completely disappointing. And I'm still, if it's all right with you guys, I'm going to do my Chamoth jokes.
Speaker 1 We might do a couple extra ones that I thought were too mean. Now that he's not here, I had to show up for this thing.
Speaker 1 He works hard. $1.5 billion.
Speaker 1 He works hard 24-7-11.
Speaker 1 Wow.
Speaker 1 He bought into the Golden State Warriors because he heard they had curry over there
Speaker 1
How? These nerds like sports jokes more than angel investor jokes. This doesn't even make any sense.
He's got Vindalute
Speaker 1 Indian food jokes anyone? He's got a lot of bread. It's a non-issue
Speaker 1 Okay
Speaker 1 He's the best poker player out of the bunch. He has the most patience because he looks like a doctor.
Speaker 1 Somebody told me that Shamath has a very hot wife. I wonder what she sees in him.
Speaker 1 Perhaps the hairy feet.
Speaker 1 All right. Mokey dokey.
Speaker 1 Shamath at one point was a senior executive at Facebook where he spearheaded several projects like Facebook Phone, Facebook Home, and Facebook Beacon.
Speaker 1 If none of those ring a bell, it's because they were all completely scrapped by Facebook. Hell of a resume, Shamath, did you also pitch the logo ideas to Cracker Barrel?
Speaker 1 How about a hand for David Sachs, ladies and gentlemen?
Speaker 1 Let me just say,
Speaker 1 I am a huge fan of yours.
Speaker 1 I just think you're truly so cool.
Speaker 1 For a genius like you to take a break from wildly successful businesses to be a patriot and share your brilliant mind for the better of our great nation is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 Agreed. Agreed.
Speaker 1 David Friedberg is here.
Speaker 1 It gave me the laugh I expected. That was supposed to be funny that I just was nice to David Sachs and then moved on.
Speaker 1 Oh, and to Sachs, the crypto czar, Michael Saylor asked me to say hello. And if you can do anything, anything at all, that would be great.
Speaker 1 I don't really know what he's talking about, but
Speaker 1 the truly admirable feat. I'm excited to watch Jay Cow follow in your footsteps in 2028 as AOC's special advisor for plugging your own shit on air.
Speaker 1 David Friedberg.
Speaker 1 He has a segment on the show called Science Corner,
Speaker 1 or as Sachs calls it.
Speaker 1 Or as Sachs calls it, time to go.
Speaker 1 I didn't think it was possible to be the third wheel on a podcast with four guys
Speaker 1 oh my god
Speaker 1 David and David I would like to personally thank you for both elevating the representation of African Americans among the billionaire class you know They say we have wealth inequality in this country.
Speaker 1 Well, turns out we fixed it.
Speaker 1 We just outsourced it to better Africans.
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's America. That's America, baby.
You see a kid from Johannesburg with a laptop, and he's a billionaire in 10 years.
Speaker 1 You see a brother from the South Side with a laptop, and he stole your laptop.
Speaker 1 It's true. The only black male on the podcast is whatever the Israeli government has on these guys.
Speaker 1 Black mail.
Speaker 1 But seriously, to the all-in squad, thanks for all you do to promote healthy discourse and share perspectives across culture, tech, and politics.
Speaker 1
What you all have built is special and transcends partisanship. I'm honored to be here tonight, and I'm very proud to now call each of you my friends.
Also, can I borrow some money?
Speaker 1 Thank you very much.
Speaker 1
Awesome. That's right.
Oh, my God. Man, that was easier than I thought.
Speaker 1 Wow.
Speaker 1 Yo.
Speaker 1 That was fun. Tell me a little bit about the just unbelievable 12-year overnight success that is Kill Tony.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 I just built the show that I wanted to do. You know, I always was...
Speaker 1 I was very lucky early on at the comedy store to get to host the open mics there, which are three-minute long sets on Sundays and Mondays with 40 comedians in a row doing three minutes, three minutes, three minutes, three minutes.
Speaker 1 And I would go up after each comedian did three minutes and make fun of them.
Speaker 1 And every once in a while afterwards, go up to them personally and say, hey, you know, if you took a breath sometimes or, you know, used pauses or sped up or used, got the mic close to your mouth, little advice.
Speaker 1 here and there.
Speaker 1 And me and my friends would always have so much fun sitting in the back of the room watching these open mics and the things that we would whisper into each other's ears, I thought were so funny.
Speaker 1 We'd be in the back of the room. Sometimes we'd be the only people laughing at the open mic because of what we're saying to each other.
Speaker 1
And I thought to myself, during this time in which everyone was saying, Tony, you have to do a podcast. You got to do a podcast.
Everyone has a podcast.
Speaker 1 You know, it was completely unheard of at the time.
Speaker 1 But I thought, why not show how crazy an open mic can be and the ideas that me and whatever comedian buddies were sitting next to me if we shared what we were laughing about with the people I think it could be a hit and even the co-host Redband at the time goes wait what who the fuck is gonna want to watch an open mic
Speaker 1 and and I kind of thought everybody would so now yeah it turns out worked out pretty well yeah
Speaker 1 it's
Speaker 1 it's pretty amazing when I moved to Austin two years ago and the first thing people say when they land in Austin is, have you been to kill tony can you get me tickets to kill tony and you were so nice you gave me your phone number you said anytime you want you know come in and then I texted you and you ghosted me and
Speaker 1 really did that really happen no I just wanted to see the joke had left it would have happened if you did text me that's why
Speaker 1 I deleted your number but yeah no I didn't but it is a phenomenon it the show is selling out I don't know how many weeks you put out at a time but my office is over there by Dirty Sixth Street.
Speaker 1 And sometimes I'll walk and get a coffee, and there's two, three hundred people lined up on the street. They just go to Joe Rogan's mothership just to see where it happens.
Speaker 1 What's it like in terms of the number of tickets? And then this incredible scale, you've now sold out MSG how many times? Yeah, three Kill Tonys and once just for my stand-up.
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The stand-up show and the most recent Kill Tony was all after my famous MSG performance. Heard rallying.
Yeah, you spoke at the Nuremberg Rally.
Speaker 1 So that was even more special because it was already my favorite arena. In fact, the only reason I really did that
Speaker 1 event was because I was just excited to feel the magic of Madison Square Garden again. Had it been at, you know, what's the one in Jersey or whatever? Brendan Byrne? No,
Speaker 1 it's a different arena.
Speaker 1
It doesn't matter. It's like Jersey.
It doesn't matter. Yeah, my point is,
Speaker 1 had it even been anywhere else, I don't even know if I would have done it. But the magic of MSG mixed with the opportunity to perhaps
Speaker 1 get
Speaker 1 a few people, maybe younger people or whoever,
Speaker 1 that were on the fence to vote I thought was the right way.
Speaker 1 Can I ask, how did that whole MSG
Speaker 1 thing come about for the Trump campaign? Because I remember when they asked me to help and I just threw a dinner.
Speaker 1 And when you did it, you delivered a killer set that almost burned the campaign down.
Speaker 1 Fake news.
Speaker 1 20% Puerto Rican increase in the state of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 An uptick because they have an unbelievable sense of humor. Puerto Ricans do.
Speaker 1 You know, when you do this every night and all the time, you get a really good feel for what you can and can't get away with. What exactly, where is the actual line?
Speaker 1 And I think, and I'm, I think in retrospect, a lot of people think that the mainstream media trying to make it appear like a comedian, I don't think any of these journalists did their research.
Speaker 1 With a simple Google, you see that I have the most diverse comedy show in the world and that I am, and I push the limits on the, whether it be the Tom Brady roast or the Snoop Dogg roast and all the roasts that I've written on,
Speaker 1 like the last 13 Comedy Central roasts.
Speaker 1 With a simple Google of my name, you can find out that I was just doing what I did. And I think they weren't gambling on the fact because I'm not mainstream, right?
Speaker 1 I'm not Jimmy Fallon or any of these darlings of theirs.
Speaker 1 I think that they thought that it was going to make everything look bad. But meanwhile,
Speaker 1 I think anybody with a sense of humor at all saw it and goes, I think this is the party with a sense of humor.
Speaker 1 Meanwhile, Meanwhile, they have the other side had Glorilla shaking her ass and like everyone's pretending like that's cool, but that's not cool. And Tony, can we go back to your point?
Speaker 1 Because I thought what was so interesting was your story getting here, because there's a lot of entrepreneurs, people that have built businesses in this room.
Speaker 1 One of the defining characteristics of building a business is you have to have grit because nothing goes as planned if you're doing something for the first time.
Speaker 1 And you get your ass kicked. And if you can deal with that, you can deal with it again and you can deal with it again, you can eventually get somewhere.
Speaker 1 You started out in LA.
Speaker 1 Can you just talk about not just the idea, but then what the process was like going from the idea to having yourself on stage with the future president at Madison Square Garden, giving this what was that experience like and how hard was that iteration, that build, and the struggle to get to where you got to?
Speaker 1 Oh, it was insane.
Speaker 1 I actually
Speaker 1 just mentioned this. I was on Rogan this week with John Cena and it came up, but I had this moment a few weeks ago where I Venmoed a buddy
Speaker 1 because I thought that I owed him rent from 18 and a half years ago. I was sleeping, I was renting the couch in a living room with
Speaker 1
four comedians total. I was one of them.
One had a bedroom with a bathroom. Another one had a bedroom with a bathroom.
And me, and there was a little love seat. A guy was renting the love seat.
Speaker 1
And I had to pay $400 a month rent. And I literally, even though I was working all the hours from literally 11 a.m.
on the phones to 7 p.m. at night.
Speaker 1 And then I would put on the comedy store t-shirt and work the door from 8 p.m. till 2.30 in the morning and then do it again the next day.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 because the comedy store didn't have, comedy hadn't had its second huge boom yet, which was a few years away,
Speaker 1 they would cut your hours at the comedy store. They just wouldn't, not only would you not get overtime, you wouldn't even get the hours that you actually did work or really anything at all.
Speaker 1 I couldn't make the 400 a month rent. So anyway, a few weeks ago, I said to one of the other buddies that had a room, I go, hey, I think I owe,
Speaker 1
I still think I owe the main guy a few hundred bucks rent. He goes, you do.
He mentioned it last time I saw him. Wow.
Speaker 1 And so I went to Venmo and I just Venmo'd him a thousand bucks straight up.
Speaker 1 And in the caption, yeah, exactly. In the caption, I go, rent money, 2007.
Speaker 1 But Tony, was there a period during that time when you were going to quit? Where you said it's not working?
Speaker 1 No, these were my favorite times. In fact, after that, after the 400 rent, which by the way, because I couldn't make the 400 rent, I got downgraded.
Speaker 1 Not only was there someone else on the love seat, someone else moved in that could afford the 400 rent. So I paid 300 rent for a bean bag on the ground.
Speaker 1 And let me remind you, the bathrooms were in the other guys' bedrooms. So you had to tiptoe if you had to pee in the middle of the night through somebody else's bedroom.
Speaker 1 So it was after that, actually, after basically the first year was that, I decided to just start sleeping in the back seat of my car behind the comedy store where I wasn't you weren't even allowed to park there.
Speaker 1 It's a tiny parking lot. So I would be up on one of the hills in the Hollywood Hills and after at 2.30 or 3 a.m.
Speaker 1 when you're done, I would walk up a hill and get my car and drive it back into the empty comedy store parking lot, pull into the back.
Speaker 1 Juan Carlos, the maintenance man there that would show up at like 4 or 5 a.m.
Speaker 1 was nice enough to wait a few hours to try to let me get a few extra hours of sleep before he would start nailing shit and fixing everything.
Speaker 1 And it's literally the times now that I have a touch of success.
Speaker 1 It's the times that I think about all the time now.
Speaker 1 Every single time I find myself looking at the skyline of Austin from my beautiful fucking home with a crazy outdoor terrace and everything the way that I want it, I think about those times.
Speaker 1
The struggle. All the time.
Was there a moment where you said, I made it?
Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it happens quite a bit. The I made it thing happens a lot.
Speaker 1 Every MSG, and even, I mean, again, you know, to go back to it, the Trump thing at MSG being global news was so insane that not only did I make it, I feel every time like I'm kind of making it again.
Speaker 1 You know, because it just seemed at the time, there was a couple weeks there where it's literally,
Speaker 1 you know, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people saying or thinking that that could be it, that it's all over.
Speaker 1
And again, it's the best city for comedy right now. Is it Austin? Is it still LA? What do you? There's no question about it.
It's Austin, Texas. Austin, really.
Absolutely.
Speaker 1
Honestly, you guys are making it sound really fun. You got you're there, Jay Cow's there, Rogan's there.
Who else is there? Elon, Tim Ferriss.
Speaker 1
Let's go shopping. Shane Gillis.
Shane Gillis.
Speaker 1 All of his entire crew is there. Matt McCusker, Tom Segura.
Speaker 1
We came and saw you a few months ago when we did that event in Austin. What was that, March or something? Yeah.
March, right? It was incredible. I mean, the crowd.
Speaker 1 Yeah, so we got hooked up with your guy, got us some tickets, and I was with some buddies, and they said, let's go see Kill Tony. We got in touch with your guy, got into the show.
Speaker 1 And I think I had forgotten what stand-up comedy was supposed to be like from like the late 90s, early 2000s, even into the 2010s.
Speaker 1 Because over the last couple of years, we've talked a lot about guys getting their heads chopped off when they said something wrong, Chappelle, and everyone got so guarded in comedy.
Speaker 1 And I went to your show and I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 Oh my God. Like, this was tame tonight, but like, what went on on your stage? And then you did a bit where you really tried to push the limits.
Speaker 1 It was a really interesting show to watch because this was like, we were sitting next to each other. We were like, oh my God, he's really trying to see how far he could go.
Speaker 1 And there were moments where it was like everyone's just like, oh,
Speaker 1
but it was so different. And you've really given everyone permission to find the limits, to find real humor, to find, you know, what's sort of been taken away.
Without a doubt.
Speaker 1 And that's what we always did.
Speaker 1 Some, you know, some comedians, when they're trying to promote their specials or whatever now from LA and New York, will say things like, oh, Austin, so that they can get hits on their clip.
Speaker 1 You have to talk shit about Austin. It's been a thing the last couple years.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 they go, you know, oh, they're just edge lords and this and that, and they're just pushing limits.
Speaker 1 And it's like,
Speaker 1
we were the comedy store guys in the middle of the lineup. When I go to New York, I can perform at any club there.
When I go to LA, I can perform at any club there. So it's, we just live there.
Speaker 1 It's an amazing place to live. It's an amazing place to go out and drink and eat and listen to music and hang out with people.
Speaker 1
You guys are going mainstream. You're one guy's on SNL now.
Yeah. Cam.
Patterson, right? And so much is happening.
Speaker 1 But my point is, is we're doing the exact, we're not like, let's go to Austin and get even crazier we're the exact same people that were in the middle of the lineup at the comedy store and it wouldn't have changed we would still be in la if the if california didn't completely mishandle the pandemic and uh and let police take such a terrible hit during the george floyd riots uh it was it was
Speaker 1 why you moved yeah it's when we all decided to move it was an absolute disaster the pandemic hit you guys saw how calories The pandemic, things got so bad at one point that when we were doing our show, which you weren't allowed to have a live audience, we were still doing Kill Tony's.
Speaker 1 You want to talk about plowing through when times are rough. Everybody else's podcast during the pandemic skyrocketed like that.
Speaker 1 Us, the only show with a live audience was
Speaker 1 done.
Speaker 1
But we didn't stop. We had people, we had to, I had to improvise.
So we had people send in from home a video of themselves doing a one-minute set, which was horrendous.
Speaker 1 I mean, absolutely terrible. Worse than doing roast jokes and killing and have one guy going, ooh,
Speaker 1
after each and every joke into a microphone attached to his cheek. But it was dead silence.
Nothing was funny to us, by the way. We lacked fucking vitamin D.
Speaker 1
We were used to having the instant gratification of a crowd every single week. So we're watching these horrific one-minute sets.
And then we would zoom with the people.
Speaker 1 And by the way, don't even get me started on all the technical issues. Playing a video, ending the video, starting the Zoom call with somebody that probably doesn't have the best Wi-Fi.
Speaker 1 No great comedian knows how to work a computer or this or that or anything anyway. So we were doing this.
Speaker 1 And then at one point, we were so excited because they allowed the fact that you could have tables outside of the comedy store, six feet apart, in the parking lot. The parking lot was empty of cars.
Speaker 1 Social distancing. Oh my God, the dumbest fucking era of humanity that's ever existed.
Speaker 1
I know this is San Francisco. You're like, oh, he's the devil.
What's he talking about?
Speaker 1 I think we're all agree now. Safety, you got tricked, bitch.
Speaker 1 Let me ask about Europe. Have you followed any what's going on in Europe with speech suppression?
Speaker 1
Oh, it's insane. It's insane.
Oh, we talk about it in our green room all the time. Yeah, it's crazy.
I get weekly updates. And do we worry about that?
Speaker 1 You know, we have this bill in California called SB 771,
Speaker 1 and I got to give a shout out to Gavin Newsom for vetoing it, all the things you want to say about Gavin, but he vetoed it, thank God.
Speaker 1 And this was this hate speech bill that you can't say speech that's deemed hate by the administrators and the government.
Speaker 1 But those bills are finding, and it made it all the way through in California, except Gavin vetoed it. But those sorts of bills are showing up that were in the EU and throughout Europe.
Speaker 1 I mean, do we worry about that here in this country? Because I've always viewed comedy to be the most important test of free speech. And it really does define what we're being given permission to do.
Speaker 1 It's so interesting because I
Speaker 1 work directly and
Speaker 1 I'm insanely in touch with these things on a weekly basis with YouTube, which
Speaker 1 is I do believe the biggest streaming platform right now and what's insane is that Netflix and Ted Sarandos literally is like do whatever you want go as hard as you want push it to the limit let's go And meanwhile, YouTube, every week, something's different.
Speaker 1 A black guy right now is only allowed to say the N-word. A black comedian can only say the N-word two or three times per minute, but they're not very clear.
Speaker 1
I mean, you don't even notice when these guys do it, by the way. It's obviously different than a white guy saying the N-word.
That's about Freeberg's average. Right, exactly.
Speaker 1
It's not even funny, Tony. Don't laugh at a joke.
Thank you, Tony. We're having this together.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1 yes, the
Speaker 1 The interesting thing is that you can say certain words on YouTube, but you can't say they have them ranked and the rules change all the time.
Speaker 1 And you don't find out that the rules at YouTube have changed until your producer goes, they just demonetize the episode. And we got to publish it.
Speaker 1 And it's been out for an hour and a half, which is when everybody's going to see the episode, or the age restriction is a killer because
Speaker 1 almost everyone that watches the show is over 18. However, who the hell wants to to log in to their stuff? I mean, you dorks do, but real people don't want to.
Speaker 1 You know, they just like going to YouTube, typing in the show, and there it is. It aired an hour ago, here we go.
Speaker 1 And then if it says age restriction, just to check to see if you're 18, which what a fucking joke, because every kid can also access anything anyway. And
Speaker 1
we got age-restricted. Yeah, we got restricted content.
COVID warning. I guess your point, Tony, is that there are gatekeepers that control the distribution channel, in this case, YouTube.
Speaker 1 Without a doubt.
Speaker 1 And I'll say this, again, you know, without, I don't want to keep getting political, but there was a time there towards the end of that last Biden administration in which we were seeing things go the wrong way, on wrong way, on almost a weekly basis.
Speaker 1 Like, why'd this one get demonetized? How did this one get demonetized?
Speaker 1 Because we would have to, and you have to do a lot of digging because they are just robots over there until you finally get big enough to get a human contact at YouTube, which is like a big deal.
Speaker 1 It was definitely going the wrong way. And it felt like every week there's some new category of thought and expression that you couldn't say, and they were banning new things.
Speaker 1 And then, frankly, Elon bought Twitter, and that was the first event that shifted the momentum.
Speaker 1
Oh, there's no doubt. And now the EU's coming after him, they fined him 120 million Euro yesterday.
It's like Europe never got the memo. Yeah.
It's over.
Speaker 1
Will you guys tour in Europe or is it like not worth it? We did. We just did in June.
And we,
Speaker 1 unless
Speaker 1 they
Speaker 1
basically give us Buckingham Palace, will probably never go there again. It was the worst kill Tony in the history of our existence.
What?
Speaker 1
The comedians were just terrible. And we've done quite a few in England and Ireland and stuff.
Just the comedians were terrible. The vibes there are rough.
Speaker 1 There's just this never-ending gloom in London. Yes.
Speaker 1 The food is beyond all.
Speaker 1 They used to be funny though over there, right?
Speaker 1
I'm sorry. We were going to the locals, like, please, anything.
Where can we get a steak?
Speaker 1 Where can they overcook us a steak?
Speaker 1
It was fucking crazy, man. And I mean, everything.
It became a running joke because we got there a few days early to settle in and kind of, you know, ease into it.
Speaker 1
So that's, you know, three meals a day, even if it's just three days, that's nine terrible meals in a row. Right.
And you're talking about one point.
Speaker 1
We have the best food in the country. In Austin, it's unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 We have hundreds of restaurants better than anything we tried of the fanciest crap in London. And they open seven new ones a week.
Speaker 1 I mean, it does say something about society when comedy is appreciated more in the Middle East than it is in London. Yeah.
Speaker 1
I mean, it's pretty crazy. It really was.
Hey, Tony, any chance we could play Kill Tony tonight? You guys want to play Kill Tony here?
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 Is it true? Did you guys prepare something? Oh, whoa.
Speaker 1 Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 Well, please, this is Callie, our elegant elf.
Speaker 1
Callie, the elegant elf. You guys have your own Heidi.
That's amazing. Yes, she's here.
That's a San Francisco Heidi. So she has a penis?
Speaker 1 Asking for a friend?
Speaker 1
San Francisco Heidi. There's got to be a surprise underneath that skirt.
Oh boy, here we go. This place is ridiculous, by the way.
You guys all better be wildly successful for living here.
Speaker 1 I walked outside of my hotel earlier. There was literally two dudes banging against a tree.
Speaker 1 I looked the other way, and there's a guy taking a shit on the sidewalk and a lady walks up to me and tells me to put up my cigarette.
Speaker 1
What is going on with San Francisco? Crazy. Kind of nuts.
So you guys prepared for this? You know how it works? You get to know what's going on. We know how it works.
Speaker 1 I don't know for 10 seconds, uninterrupted. You know that your time is up and you hear the sound of a kitten.
Speaker 1 Wow, you really got it. Then you have to wrap it up then or else you bring out the angry West Hollywood bear.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 You guys want to do this?
Speaker 1
All right. This is all in Kiltoni, ladies and gentlemen.
All right, going up first. Make some noise for Jason, everybody.
Speaker 1 Oh, my lord. Wow.
Speaker 1 All right, all right.
Speaker 1 Well, many of you know I moved to Austin and I got a ranch, and I also lost 40 pounds, so now it's a fat-free ranch.
Speaker 1 Thank you.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I went up fat-shaming.
Speaker 1 But I'm a little nervous about doing a minute up here. I don't know how I'm gonna get through a minute without interrupting Sax.
Speaker 1
Tony, I'm a huge fan. I'm a big fan of yourself, Joe Rogan, Red Band.
People say I name drop a lot, but I just got a text from Elon. He says that's not true.
It's not true.
Speaker 1
It's great to be here. Thank you.
It's great to be here with three of my besties and a new one. We're missing Chamath.
Now, some people say Chamath is a douche. I don't agree.
Speaker 1 I don't agree because women get something out of putting a douche inside of them.
Speaker 1 I thought that one would land.
Speaker 1 Sax, my Jewish friend here,
Speaker 1 is the,
Speaker 1 oh, God.
Speaker 1 Okay, I don't know if I should say one.
Speaker 1 Go for it. Okay, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 Go for it.
Speaker 1 Sax is the only Jewish guy who built an app to remind his friends to pay him back.
Speaker 1
All right, that's my time, everybody. Thank you.
Jason, everybody.
Speaker 1 Wow.
Speaker 1
You don't want to do the interview? Well, you got to do the interview. You got to stay up there.
Oh, I'm supposed to stay up there.
Speaker 1
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Stay standing.
It's not that easy. What do you do for a living? Yeah.
Speaker 1 I've got a podcast or two. So did you,
Speaker 1 how hard did you prepare for this?
Speaker 1
I guess 2,500 podcast episodes later. Yeah.
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 Now, when you were writing this material, were you planning on doing the joke and then turning and seeing if we were laughing each time?
Speaker 1
That could have been a tactical mistake. Sorry.
You're supposed to engage with the audience and stay focused on them yeah okay what do you do for a living
Speaker 1 manager at Google
Speaker 1 sorry about the layoffs
Speaker 1 I don't even know what kind of tech jokes you guys
Speaker 1 I don't even know what kind of inside baseball nerd shit is going on here I feel like I walked into a magic the gathering convention
Speaker 1 Is stand-up something that you've ever wanted to do? Or is this just spontaneous for you? Just spontaneous. I'm more more of a magician.
Speaker 1
No, that's not true. Do you have magic tricks? I have no magic tricks.
Do you have any other specials?
Speaker 1
I can get three narcissistic Asperger's venture capitalists to show up every Thursday and tape a podcast. That's my only trick.
That's amazing. Good answer.
They appreciate it. You know what, Jason?
Speaker 1
I think you did just fucking good enough. Come on back and sit down.
Let's keep it moving.
Speaker 1 You guys having fun out there?
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1
Well, this is my fucking guy, ladies and gentlemen. As you know, I love him.
You love him. Make some goddamn noise for the one and only David Sachs.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1
Tony, thank you so much for being here. I loved your roast of Puerto Rico.
You went so hard after a Latino island. I'm shocked President Trump didn't appoint you Secretary of War.
Speaker 1
JCAL, I've been following your feed this week. I really appreciate your support for all in Tequila.
I know you love it because you finally get to take a shot that's not Ozempic.
Speaker 1 It was only a matter of time before JCAL got in the beverage business because I've never met anyone more thirsty than JCAL.
Speaker 1
He spent his entire entire life dreaming of the day he would see his name mentioned alongside the world's most influential people. Congratulations, Jason.
You finally did it.
Speaker 1 You're in Epstein's black book.
Speaker 1 I knew the Epstein files were a hoax as soon as I saw that JCL was in them. Who'd want to blackmail a loser?
Speaker 1 All right, let's talk about Jamath. Jamath is a prime example of why unlimited immigration is not in America's interest.
Speaker 1
Jamath is from Sri Lanka. Tony's description of Puerto Rico didn't offend him.
It made him homesick.
Speaker 1 Do I have time? Can I keep going? All right.
Speaker 1 Jamath has angered so many investors. SPAC now stands for seriously pissed at Jamath.
Speaker 1 And Freeberg, our Sultan of Science. What can I say about Freeberg that hasn't already been said about watching paint dry?
Speaker 1 Freeberg lives life as a vegan, and that's exactly what it feels like to hang out with him.
Speaker 1 You know there are more satisfying options on the menu, but you made a decision, and now you're stuck with it.
Speaker 1
You've all tried those tasteless Beyond burgers. Well, Freeberg is our Beyond friend.
All right thank you everyone
Speaker 1 david
Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen yeah
Speaker 1 unbelievable oh okay we got the interview
Speaker 1 you're good sacks
Speaker 1 you're good i gotta tell you man that was unfucking believable
Speaker 1 I wasn't expecting to have to do this tonight, but I think I just found a new golden ticket winner.
Speaker 1 Have you ever done stuff on stage before in a non-business like sense? Well, we've done a couple of roasts among our friends at birthday parties before. We did a J.
Speaker 1
Cal Roast, we did a Phil Helmuth roast. There's a lot of material in both of those cases.
Yes. So we've done, you know, we've done some friendly roasts.
That's your 50th roast.
Speaker 1
Yeah, my 50th birthday, we actually did a big roast. These guys were all part of it.
So we had a little bit of roast experience. Amazing.
It shows, Sachs, that was absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 How about one more time for David Sachs, everybody? Did he get his $15,000 in money worth in the comedians he hired or no?
Speaker 1 Is that how much he spent? I think so. I think he definitely stole in or do you pay for him out of pocket?
Speaker 1
That was incredible. That was amazing.
Are we going to have Friedberg do his set?
Speaker 1 Yes,
Speaker 1
Lonio. Tony, hype me up.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for your final comedian of the night,
Speaker 1 David Friedberg, everybody
Speaker 1 so great to be in San Francisco the streets are like chamoth they're totally full of shit
Speaker 1 thanks for being here Tony Henchcliffe I love the show I've worked in agriculture for years so I'm used to working with genetically modified fruits
Speaker 1 Tony Tony Henchcliffe's actually a GMO, a gay man, obviously.
Speaker 1 Jamath couldn't be here tonight because he's feeding the hungry. Just kidding, that's below his line.
Speaker 1 Speaking of hungry, JCal,
Speaker 1
you're looking great, buddy. Thank you.
Now you only have to buy one seat on Epstein's plane.
Speaker 1 JCal, your weight goes up and down more than Chamoff's SPAC portfolio.
Speaker 1 In fact, you look so skinny now, I confused you for Chamoff's legs.
Speaker 1 Jamaf's legs are so thin, he wears socks, leggings, and thermals. He covers up up more than Sachs does for the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 Sachs, congrats on all the success, but the stress is clearly getting to you. You look like someone microwave John Lovitz.
Speaker 1 All in is what Sachs says when he's cheering on an ice vehicle. Samanos!
Speaker 1
We're all so different. I'm just the science guy.
I study black holes while Chamoth invests in them.
Speaker 1
Here we are enjoying the holiday spirit together. I know the things I said tonight might be a little mean, but the world's already burning.
Figured I might as well burn some bridges. All right.
Speaker 1 Brushmacks, three birds. Wow.
Speaker 1 Amazing.
Speaker 1 Have you ever done anything, again, non-business, like performative?
Speaker 1
Historically? A play, nothing? A little play acting growing up. A little musicals, a little, yeah.
Yeah, I know J. Cal's gonna.
Speaker 1
A little summer stuff. You know, oh, you know, here's a in factoid no one knows.
I actually starred in a play with Rashida Jones. You know, Rashida Jones, the actress from Parks and Rec?
Speaker 1 What was that play?
Speaker 1 We were in the same high school, and we were in the drama stuff together. What was the play that you guys did together? Inherit the Wind.
Speaker 1
Oh, wow. Yeah.
A little before my time or something.
Speaker 1 Sax would be familiar, right? I love it.
Speaker 1 And when you're writing jokes like this, like, what was your process? Where did you find yourself coming up with your funniest stuff? Did you sit down at a desk?
Speaker 1 I just like to shoot the shit on the computer and then edit it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 I like putting on music. We were playing some music, and then I just
Speaker 1
kind of did them. You know, we did this for Sax's, and I went a little burnt earth, scorched earth, for his 50th.
Do you remember that? Oh, I definitely remember that.
Speaker 1 I think everybody remembers that.
Speaker 1
It was a lot of pent-up anger. Freeberg gave a set that.
It was so bad.
Speaker 1
No, it wasn't bad. It was just mean.
It was mean. Yeah.
It was
Speaker 1 it was like
Speaker 1 i just said the mean and i didn't it was like retard strength like applied to roast yeah like it was so it was so mean you didn't realize it stopped being funny you know
Speaker 1 let me ask you this david do you grievan do you remember uh one of your favorite or one of the bigger one of the crazier jokes from the sax roasts i don't know i'll pull it up later there's nothing that was my 50th birthday so it was like 20 years ago oh
Speaker 1
hey oh a little self-deprecating. That's amazing.
But you didn't film that or anything? I don't know. Do we have a copy of that? We might have a copy of that one.
Speaker 1 That would be bad.
Speaker 1 That's what Epstein would do.
Speaker 1
We did some amazing birthday party roasts. Jake Hal had one.
I had one. Like we mentioned Phil Helmeth.
But we never recorded them, which was we were kind of afraid of getting them. No, no, no.
Speaker 1
We were very afraid of like Neil. We were afraid of getting canceled.
That is correct. Yeah, but now we're uncanceling both.
I love that. Perfect.
We don't give a fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Friedberg, did that go how it felt like it was going to go for you? Is there more or less what was different? People that haven't tried comedy or written something.
Speaker 1
My cadence is a little off. I got to, you know, go one or two more rounds, and I think I can get the cadence down.
I liked it. I think, you know, I had some other material I pulled out.
Speaker 1 I would like to try that at some point.
Speaker 1 I thought there was some A-plus material in there. A-plus.
Speaker 1
It was great. David Friedberg, ladies and gentlemen.
You guys are good. All right.
Respectable. That's what we wanted to do.
Hey,
Speaker 1 you know, we have a tradition, we give some bestie awards. These are the best of the year, and maybe our elegant elf, Callie, can come out and present us with the fifth annual Bestie Awards.
Speaker 1 Here it is. As you can see, it's two very heterosexual men embracing that makes sense.
Speaker 1 San Francisco,
Speaker 1 Callie, Callie,
Speaker 1 Hey guys.
Speaker 1
All right. First up.
Keep her on. Keep her on.
Keep her on.
Speaker 1 What do you say? Keep her on.
Speaker 1 Take it easy. She's in between the two of you.
Speaker 1 All right. So
Speaker 1
first up on the Bestie Awards is our biggest business winner. Our biggest business winner.
Who did you have for biggest business winner? Oh, Sultan of science, Alphabet.
Speaker 1 Okay. Alphabet went from.
Speaker 1 Listen to how crazy the year was for Alphabet, from 2 trillion market cap to 4 trillion market cap this year. That's 170 billion gain, 10 billion market cap gain every day.
Speaker 1
They added 10 billion of value every day for the entire year. The pivot in AI, risk taking, clouds growing 40%, YouTube's the number one media company in the world.
It's all under one roof.
Speaker 1
I think they just crushed it, all cylinders, business of the earth. Amazing.
Sachs, who did you have as your biggest business winner? I said construction workers related to the data center boom.
Speaker 1
They're seeing their wages go up 25 to 30 percent. We're talking about plumbers, electricians, drywall hangers, concrete pores.
It's not just tech companies.
Speaker 1 We're seeing a larger boom throughout the country because of AI. Didn't Jamab say there's like electricians that make 500 grand a year or something?
Speaker 1 NASCAR electricians? That's crazy.
Speaker 1 Unbelievable. Pretty incredible and a great White House talking point for the midterms.
Speaker 1
I too had Alphabet and Google. We were sitting here a year ago.
Everybody thought they would absolutely get killed by ChatGPT. And now we're having a discussion.
Speaker 1 Hey, ChatGPT is probably going to get killed by Google.
Speaker 1 Oh, it's
Speaker 1
go Google Cloud, right? Is that who that is? Yeah. All right.
Biggest.
Speaker 1
Just out of curiosity. Yes, Tony.
Because I don't know how any of this works. What happened to ChatGPT or what did Alphabet do this year to surprise you guys, other than their results? Like,
Speaker 1 how did they get them? What did they do? Do you think that they were? Well, they put AI into search. So now when you go to search, there's like an AI interface that pops up.
Speaker 1 And so that's how they drove people to their AI product because they've got the biggest consumer product in the world, Google.com. And then they had a good product.
Speaker 1
And so they put the two together and suddenly they're crushing ChatGPT. Yeah.
Sometimes the first company up the hill takes the arrows, like Netscape, the browser, eventually wound up losing.
Speaker 1 But I think they were also underestimated, and they probably were very conservative in how they released products.
Speaker 1
And then they kind of got permission when Sergei came back to work full-time at Google, the founder. They kind of took more chances.
And
Speaker 1
yeah, the search franchise grew this year. Everybody thought it would go down.
It grew. My big business winner is the show Kill Tony.
I don't know if you guys have heard about it.
Speaker 1
A four-special deal on Netflix, which is unprecedented by any show. And also we ranked number two at the end of the year on YouTube.
Follow me behind my very best friend, Joe Rogan.
Speaker 1 So that's pretty crazy. Oh, that is incredible.
Speaker 1
Number two podcast on YouTube. YouTube's the number one podcast platform.
Pretty incredible. But by the way, Tony, can I tell you something? I didn't tell you this before.
Speaker 1 When I came and saw your show in Austin,
Speaker 1
I hadn't seen a Kill Tony show before. So someone I was with said, you should go check this out.
And that's how we ended up going. And then I came back and I'm like, I should watch Kill Tony.
Speaker 1 I would say I've watched maybe 100 episodes since I've come back. It's so bad.
Speaker 1
And it's timeless, the content. And so every night when I'm like ready for bed, I'll put on YouTube and I'll watch a Kill Tony episode.
I love that. It is literally like my go-to media now.
Speaker 1 The live is the gateway. I highly recommend checking one out live because you can feel, while it's funny to watch online, when it's live, you can feel the opportunity of failure that they have.
Speaker 1 You're like, they're right there.
Speaker 1
Anything can happen. This could go terribly wrong.
It feels dangerous. It feels
Speaker 1 like
Speaker 1 it's and then it's so great. It's almost like waiting for the big game moment to happen.
Speaker 1
Like you're waiting for that big champion to show up, like that guy you had a couple of weeks ago who you made up. Patrick Flynn.
That guy was insane.
Speaker 1 It was amazing. In just four weeks, he was made a regular randomly, pulled him out of the bucket, saw him, the interview, so likable.
Speaker 1 I skipped golden ticket and made him the first appointed regular that we maybe get one of those every two years.
Speaker 1 Cut to four weeks later,
Speaker 1 this past Monday, he literally did a rap about how rich he is already. Like he did a whole rap performance about
Speaker 1
next week. He's like a matter of baby.
I'm going to SNL. Do you get a piece of it or does your agent just snipe these people?
Speaker 1 No, no, well, I mean, actually, that's an interesting question because now they, the entire industry is watching Kill Tony to see what's actually next.
Speaker 1 I am the first, that bucket is the first line of defense. Howie Mandel watches every episode, and they get booked on America's Got Talent based on if they're unbelievable on Kiltony.
Speaker 1 You should offer them a show on your channel. That would be the ultimate move.
Speaker 1 Remember, like, Johnny Carson used to be the thing where a stand-up would go on Johnny Carson, and if Johnny invited them to sit down, then they had a career, and you've kind of become the news.
Speaker 1 But he's kept it fair. What's crazy is that guy,
Speaker 1 Diedrich? Diederich? Yeah, Dedrick. Dedrick.
Speaker 1 He's so black, you can't even say his name.
Speaker 1 Absolutely.
Speaker 1 Diedrich.
Speaker 1 Don't use that generic word that you use.
Speaker 1 Don't do it.
Speaker 1 He put his name in the bucket for two years to get called. So he moved to Austin.
Speaker 1 39 weeks in a row, and he was just about to stop trying to get out of the way. And then he got pulled.
Speaker 1 And so, unlike all these other guys where there's control systems in Hollywood with agents and producers, and they're like, here's the guy that's going to be the the winner.
Speaker 1 These guys all have a democratic shot, they have an open shot at getting in that bucket and getting pulled, which is what I love about it. You never know what you're going to get.
Speaker 1 And it's like everyone has a shot, so it's not like this control thing.
Speaker 1 You know what you should do is if they agree to do it, you should say, just as a thank you, we want the option for you to come do one Kill Tony special a year for the next two years.
Speaker 1 Like, not something crazy, but just
Speaker 1 you should take business advice from JKL. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 Hey, I built the number one podcast of the world.
Speaker 1
It's not just you. He gives me advice.
He gives the the president advice. I gave the president great advice.
And he said even Jason has good advice. All right.
Even Jaycow. Even Jay Cow.
Speaker 1 Biggest business loser.
Speaker 1 Who's your biggest business loser, David Sachs? Who's the biggest loser?
Speaker 1
I said universities. The margin of Americans who now believe that college is worth the cost has gone from plus 13 a decade ago to minus 30.
Minus 30. Wow.
Speaker 1
So no one believes that college is worth the cost anymore. Amazing.
Great pull. What do you think, Friedberg? Warner Brothers Discovery.
Speaker 1 I think the fact that the M ⁇ A deal is being done at three times the value that this thing's been trading at for the last couple of years really shows how they undermanage the business.
Speaker 1 The content itself is worth so much more. They were never able to get value out of it, which speaks to what a terrible
Speaker 1 kind of management they've had there.
Speaker 1 Which company did you say? Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers.
Speaker 1
You owned the stock, didn't you, in your thing? I cleared it. I was like, these guys are going to be a good one.
So
Speaker 1
you missed the outcome? I did miss the outcome, yeah. It was a rare miss for me.
I went with Apple. Wait, hold on a second.
And they didn't listen to your advice.
Speaker 1 I mean, the problem was, I had all these other things that had won, and I had a bunch of gains, and I needed to sell my losers. He put all his stock trades on the internet, Tony.
Speaker 1
Then I called it J trading, and it went up 5x and 3x. And he bought a whole bunch of Warner Brothers.
He's like, this is the next big thing. I thought Disney and Warner Brothers would figure it out.
Speaker 1
Neither of them have. My biggest business loser was Apple.
This company has unlimited distribution and unlimited capital.
Speaker 1
And the most impressive thing they've done in the last 10 years is a thin iPhone. What a missed opportunity.
And
Speaker 1
yeah, I mean, maybe the best thing they've done recently is Pluribus. I don't know if you guys are watching that, but oh, people like it.
Yeah. It's a pretty great show.
Speaker 1 Literally, if I'm thinking their
Speaker 1 streaming show is the best thing, they've got a problem. Who's the biggest loser in comedy?
Speaker 1 The biggest loser in comedy right now.
Speaker 1 And, you know, I love it. Here's the thing is that...
Speaker 1 Right. Well,
Speaker 1 you know, the biggest loser really are these giant movie studios which still
Speaker 1 are virtue signaling and afraid to take any chances whatsoever. The last movie with any edge at all in a theater, I think, was The Hangover, which I think was 2006, 2005.
Speaker 1
And it made a billion dollars, that franchise. Yeah, exactly.
Are they coming to you asking you to do one?
Speaker 1
I would think that would be a very natural play, but there's no studio who would do it, so maybe like A24 or one of the smaller ones. We are working on something.
Oh, really?
Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's going to be
Speaker 1
definitely the answer to that. And it's all happening and it's going to be.
Well, they let you do what you want. Yes.
Speaker 1 We already, we went and got independent financing for it my amazing team over at uta uh wonderful
Speaker 1 what um
Speaker 1 what uh
Speaker 1 anything that would be analogous or inspirational for you are there films that informed this one are you a tropic thunder film fan are you like easy money rodney danger field from back in the day what do you what comedians in films did you love um i mean
Speaker 1 without a doubt and it's an odd pick because because it's not the one everybody thinks that I'm going to say, but Kingpin with Woody Harrelson and Bill Murray. Yes.
Speaker 1
I think it is the best Farrelly Brothers film. I think it's the funniest thing Bill Murray's ever done.
I think it's the funniest thing Woody Harrelson's ever done.
Speaker 1
And if you haven't watched it in the past few years, go back and watch it one more time. It's unbelievable.
It seems like it's a movie about bowling, but it's not at all. It's just hysterical.
Speaker 1 I had a bunch of seven and eight-year-olds over for my daughter's birthday party and we did a film. So I said, oh, you guys should watch Bill Murray and What About Bob?
Speaker 1
And this was like a loved film, PG. I thought, this would be fine.
They're eight years old. And in the film, they use all these, you know, dick breath, idiot.
You know, they just do this thing.
Speaker 1 And then I went to school the next day and three parents cornered me here in the Bay Area. Can we talk to you about your film selection? My daughter came home and she said, dick breath.
Speaker 1
And I was like, have you seen What About Bob? And the parent was like, no. I was like, you should watch it.
It's incredible. Like, our daughters are never coming over your house again.
Speaker 1 Meanwhile, that same San Fran parents probably like, do you know there wasn't a single trans character in that movie?
Speaker 1 And she said dick breath, but I think they should actually have dick breath because they should have dick breath because there's nothing that's off limits.
Speaker 1
Jason, we got two minutes to get those six political winners. Two minutes.
Lightning round. Go.
Okay, biggest political winner is the Democratic Socialists of America. Okay.
Speaker 1
Sadly, biggest political winner? Well, this may be a talking point, but I'm going to say crypto. A year ago, there was a war on crypto.
Okay. They were worried about going to jail.
Speaker 1
Now we've passed legislation. We're getting a fair shake from the government.
It's a total change. Yeah, incredible.
You know, I had your pick.
Speaker 1 Zoron, Mamdani, socialism. I also had the America First movement that's burgeoning.
Speaker 1 But I gave it some thought and I thought, by Lord, there's one individual who part-time went to the government and took crypto and made it legal and created a framework for it.
Speaker 1 They made sure that America would be absolutely competitive in the AI race, the most important race of our lifetime and in fact in humanity. So hands down, my biggest political winner of 2025 is Mr.
Speaker 1 David Sachs.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 Political winner for you? You don't give a shit. What do you think?
Speaker 1 Political winner for me, you know, I mean, I really,
Speaker 1 again, I'm just a big fan of this president. People can say that I'm I kiss ass and that and that comedians shouldn't.
Speaker 1 There's this thing that I've been hearing where people are like, you know, comedians should be punching up, not punching down. You're supposed to make fun of the big thing.
Speaker 1 Well, if nobody, if everybody is making fun of that one thing, then I think it's kind of funny to go the other way and to push it up. So I literally have in my stand-up set pro
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Trump jokes, which nobody's fucking doing. Which one lands the most? I make fun of his autograph.
I say he has the most obnoxiously cool autograph in the world. It looks like Lizzo's heart rate.
Speaker 1 And he actually does.
Speaker 1 My biggest political loser sax. Who's the best? By the way, he does have the best sense of humor, must be, of any president we've ever had.
Speaker 1 He's just hysterical oh i if you anyone who spent time with him is just blown away at just how funny he is all the best comedians talk about how he might be the funniest human being on planet earth this is a conversation i've had i'm not gonna name their names but you can put it together in your head i'm talking about the actual best comedians in the world
Speaker 1 all of them i believe all of them yes michael richards yeah um no i'm kidding
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you know you know You know who the best are, and yes, they all agree. I mean, there's just, there's funny is funny.
It's undeniable.
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Literally, god damn it, I'm blanking out, but this week he did something so fucking. Oh, the Somali thing.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 It's a hellhole.
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They come over here and they bitch and complain. Like, it's, it's just common sense, and that's the funniest thing.
I still love when Zoran visited him and he says, it's okay, you can say it.
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I'm a fucking. It's easier if you just tell them, okay, yes, Okay, let's go.
Come on. Let's keep going.
Okay, biggest political loser, Sax?
Speaker 1 My biggest political loser is Europe.
Speaker 1 It's a civilization that's in decline.
Speaker 1
They're losing economically, geopolitically, socially, culturally, and they can't seem to reverse that trend. It's very sad.
Political loser, Freeberg. The Founding Fathers.
Speaker 1 Wow.
Speaker 1 Because... I feel like free speech, property seizure rights, we read this excerpt from these two Thomas Jefferson letters, and you can read a lot of these.
Speaker 1 Just ask Gemini to tell you about some of the things that the Founding Fathers wrote.
Speaker 1 And if you spend time with them and translate them into modern English, because they do write in a very poetic, frilly way, there is so much of the principles in the Founding Fathers that are lost.
Speaker 1 in how we are kind of devolving into this organizational system where the government is everything in our lives, everything in our country. The individual liberties are being taken from us.
Speaker 1 And I don't mean taken from us in a sense that they're being seized.
Speaker 1 We're voting for a government that dictates our lives, that controls what we eat, how we eat, how we live, how we get paid, our checks.
Speaker 1 I think the majority of Americans today live on checks from the government through the government. And I think that the Founding Fathers would have been really saddened at the state.
Speaker 1 I went with, well said, well said. I went with
Speaker 1 Stephen Miller. I felt his performative cruelty was a distraction for the 47th administration.
Speaker 1 And that was a
Speaker 1 shame because I loved his band.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
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This is biggest political loser. Yeah.
Mine's Gavin Newsome.
Speaker 1 Yes, yes.
Speaker 1
I mean, the hair is great. Yeah.
Great hair. That's enough for you liberals to be impressed about.
Absolutely. Oh, he's got hair.
Fucking amazing.
Speaker 1 Let's go with breakthrough of the year. Freeberg, what's your breakthrough of the year? Okay, we haven't talked about it on the show.
Speaker 1 This definitely deserves a science corner, but asteroid Bennu, NASA sent a probe, they pulled a bunch of samples up in 2020, they landed back on Earth 2023.
Speaker 1 Two days ago, they showed that on asteroid Bennu, there is nucleic acids, there are amino acids, there are sugars. All of the building blocks of life were found on this asteroid
Speaker 1 floating through space. Wow.
Speaker 1 Cassio, a question? Yeah. Did the asteroid make it to Uranus?
Speaker 1 Friedrich, this is great, but you're putting me on.
Speaker 1 I honestly think, just for a brief moment before we make the jokes, this is going to end up being one of the most amazing discoveries of our lifetime because it really does show that life is not necessarily unique to planet Earth.
Speaker 1 This was an asteroid that's been floating around for four and a half billion years and it's got all the components of life on it. It's a pretty incredible discovery.
Speaker 1
It's amazing. And it is made out of sugar.
It's got sugar on it, it's got glucose on it. Freeberg, how many times have you masturbated to this asteroid so far?
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 Thank you. My breakthrough of the year is
Speaker 1 humanoid robots. I think we're just underestimating the progress these will have.
Speaker 1 Everybody's going to get their own C3PO slash Friedberg, so we won't be the only ones with a robot in our lives. Sax, what was your biggest? I just said be able to use Starlink on commercial flights.
Speaker 1 I mean, you can actually use the internet now.
Speaker 1
Hold on a second. I'm calling bullshit.
You haven't been on a commercial flight
Speaker 1 since Clinton was in office.
Speaker 1 That's true. I was doing it for you guys.
Speaker 1
Honestly, when were you last on a commercial? Last time you flew commercial flights. That's for you, Jay Cal.
It's for you. Thank you.
Speaker 1
Is it more? Is it more than a flight? You're a man of the people. I was thinking about you.
Is it more than 10 years? More than 10 years since you've been on a commercial flight.
Speaker 1 I set the over-under at 15 years for a commercial flight. I haven't been on a commercial flight since 2012.
Speaker 1 2012? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 J-Cal, what's the Wi-Fi password on the Lolita Express?
Speaker 1 Apparently, it's
Speaker 1 1, 2, 3.
Speaker 1 Oh, sorry. Oh,
Speaker 1 that is straight. Really?
Speaker 1
Sorry. Sorry.
Sorry.
Speaker 1 Okay, I just, we'll cut that. It says yo, people.
Speaker 1 By the way, why is it that all the liberal guests that you bring on the pod
Speaker 1 are like regular visitors to Little St. James?
Speaker 1 You're talking about what?
Speaker 1 All of your liberal buddies that you bring on the podcast.
Speaker 1 But he did get some good dating advice, apparently.
Speaker 1 Oh, come on.
Speaker 1 CEO of the year,
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not named Elon Musk. We all consensus have to pick Jensen Huang.
Jensen Huang.
Speaker 1 33 years in the making, built a flywheel, had the vision, stuck through it, ups and downs. For whatever people said, every generation of the last 33 years, he kept building.
Speaker 1
And this flywheel finally took off. And here's a crazy statistic.
NVIDIA, 4.5 trillion market cap. That's up from 300 billion 36 months ago.
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So this is a company that in 36 months created $4.2 trillion of market value. That's $100 billion every month for three years straight.
It's incredible. I think it's insane where the situation is.
Speaker 1 Sax, who is your CEO of the year not named Elon Musk? Well, that was a great one, but I'm going to go with Alex Karp because if you heard him
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speak at all in summit, I think he brought down the house. He out-tucker Tucker.
I mean, so in addition to Palantir being a monster last year.
Speaker 1 I went with NVIDIA, Trump's favorite company, and Jensen Wang as well. Let me just say again,
Speaker 1 even though this isn't my territory, I want to give a shout-out to a couple badass motherfuckers, Nick Kahn and Paul Levesque over at the WWE,
Speaker 1 have taken on this massive historical company
Speaker 1 and
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have made so many huge deals with so many different networks to bring in so many people. Are you a WWE or a UFC guy? I'm both.
You're both. If you had to only go go to one.
Speaker 1 In fact, since this is the only place that it would be interesting to ever mention, it was the only F, TKO is the only ever stock that I ever told my guy, my golf buddy, who actually, after years of insisting I should give him money to put in stocks, which I never believed in because I'm an Italian poor kid from Youngstown, Ohio.
Speaker 1
I believe before that just have cash in a shoebox. is like the way to have money.
But then I did.
Speaker 1 And the only one I ever recommended for him, I heard about this Nvidia three years ago from my guy whatever but the only one I ever told him about was TKO because I Dana White knows how to put on a hell of a show yep and I know that obviously the WWE is always amazing and always growing so it's the only one I ever told him to get and we've seen you know whatever in my little world by the NVIDIA yeah
Speaker 1 wild wild wild success yeah so unlike Jake Howell you held this talk yeah yeah great
Speaker 1 and by the way we had Paul Levesque Triple H speak at the All in the Summit. Oh, nice.
Speaker 1
He's a big wrestler. I'm a big fan.
Oh, I love that. I was just with him.
I hung out with him just last night.
Speaker 1
SmackDown was in Austin. All right.
Now,
Speaker 1 each host gets to pick their discraziad
Speaker 1 of the year, the most disgraceful
Speaker 1 moment, person, company, or trend. Discraziad of the year.
Speaker 1 Descraziad. He was the best guy around.
Speaker 1 What about about the people he murdered? What murder?
Speaker 1 You can act like a man.
Speaker 1
What's the raw do? He's just kiddled. In manners.
You insulted him a little bit. I'm smacked and I want the stats.
What's the matter with you? Your hair was in the toilet water. Disgusting.
Speaker 1 I gotta suffocate you, you little.
Speaker 1 It's a fing disgrace.
Speaker 1 Descraziad.
Speaker 1 All right, descrazia.com.
Speaker 1 Tony, whenever you're ready, you can give us yours. But Freeberg, who's your discrazia? The crackdown on speech in Europe.
Speaker 1 3,000-plus arrests in the UK for malicious communication, mostly fines, but also incarcerations, including recently calling a convicted rapist a pig and landed someone in jail.
Speaker 1 84,000 politically motivated communications crimes in Germany, 6,000 defined hate crimes based on speech in France. Across Europe, this has become a major issue.
Speaker 1 Again, I'll reflect on Gavin Newsom vetoing SB 771 in this state, but we were very close, and I think think it's very important that we pay attention to it.
Speaker 1 Sachs, that's a really good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 Well, I would agree with that one, but the one
Speaker 1
I would choose is that at Stanford, they said that if you're disabled, you get more time on tests and you can kind of be unproctored and kind of... Accommodations.
Right. So now...
Speaker 1 50% of students at Stanford say they're disabled.
Speaker 1
And you had a case to make yourself, and you never pulled the Asperger's card. I never pulled that card.
But anyway, but no, this is all part of a piece with grades.
Speaker 1 Basically, there's no grades anymore.
Speaker 1
And everyone sort of claims to be disabled in order to get special advantages. Descraziad.
Descraziad. My disgraziad was very good.
Was socialism in New York, my hometown,
Speaker 1 absolutely disgraceful.
Speaker 1 And the actual true New Yorkers didn't vote for it, but the people who've been there for under 10 years did overwhelmingly disgraciate for me. Tony, who's your disgraciade for 2025?
Speaker 1 I'd have to say the people that just cheered that people won't be leaving California next year in this crowd is the disgraciade.
Speaker 1
You guys realize there's other places, right? And I was guilty of it too. I lived in LA happily for almost 20 years.
I loved it.
Speaker 1
I really never thought I would move to another place. And as a touring comedian, you know, you go visit places and you would go back to LA.
That was just the headquarters.
Speaker 1 It took so much chaos for me to even try to
Speaker 1 go to another place and fall in love with it. But
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when you do try other places, you find that it's better than this. And it's definitely better than this.
Because L.A. is better than this.
And this is just the worst.
Speaker 1 And the world, and by the way, the world is laughing at you.
Speaker 1 And some of you are booing, but you're clearly not the ones making the money off the app that shows you where the shit on the sidewalks is in this hot fucking dump that you call home.
Speaker 1 So anyway, you're the descrazia.
Speaker 1
Oh, I love it. Bringing the heat.
I'm a real wrestling fan. I'll do a heel turn.
I love real hearts.
Speaker 1 Way to win the audience.
Speaker 1
They loved you for 90 minutes. You were doing so well.
You couldn't help yourself. Burning a tank.
Speaker 1 That was not only a heel turn, it was a low blow, it was a chair shot over the head
Speaker 1 of the entire audience. And what's perfect is that
Speaker 1 half of them now won't bother me at the after party.
Speaker 1 That's a win-win right there.
Speaker 1 All right, listen.
Speaker 1
This has been absolutely amazing. Let's give it up for the one, the only, Tony Hinchcliffe.
Your friend
Speaker 1 is unbelievable.
Speaker 1
Let me just thank Tony. Tony, thank you for what you do.
People don't have to agree with your speech.
Speaker 1 I feel it's really important that comedians act as the flag bearers to keep freedom of speech alive.
Speaker 1 For all the jokes we can make about the things you say and the way you offend people, I think that pushing the limits is so important. Thank you.
Speaker 1 And for that, I appreciate what you do and love your work.
Speaker 1 And then most of them are me to say,
Speaker 1 honestly, I think this is like the most fun
Speaker 1
Christmas party we've had. Ever.
Ever.
Speaker 1
And probably the most fun event we've ever had is because of Tony here. No question about it.
Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 1
And I'm just kidding, audience. You're not really that much of a disgraziat.
It was a joke, but
Speaker 1 it's a little bit of walking it back. They were with you until that.
Speaker 1 These nerds are used to flashbacks to getting bullied back in the day. Absolutely.
Speaker 1
You just stuffed them all in the locker. Yes.
Metaphorically. We'll see you.
And we really appreciate all of you coming out tonight. Yeah, thank you guys so much.
Speaker 1 Honestly,
Speaker 1
I didn't know what to expect from this, and honestly, this is the most fun we've ever had during an event. Happy holidays.
Thank you to all of you.