CSB351: Bungalow Super Beast: There's No Ambiguity With a Kidnapped Sister

Speaker 1 All right, we got ourselves a chunky one. Hey, Wooly, would you like this week's episode of Be Careful of What You Say Around Your Children? Oh, fuck.
Oh, boy. Okay.
It's a doozy.

Speaker 1 It's a doozy for real. Oh, man.
The words matter now. Okay, so

Speaker 1 Paige is upstairs in the bathroom, and she dropped like her phone or some makeup or whatever, right? And she went, ah, fuck, right?

Speaker 1 And you're like, thinking, oh, obviously that's what the child repeated. No,

Speaker 1 I go, oh, what you do? You poop on the floor? Ha ha.

Speaker 1 And then hours went by.

Speaker 1 Hours. And then my little man walks up to his mommy and says,

Speaker 1 Mommy,

Speaker 1 do you poop on the floor in the bathroom like a dog?

Speaker 1 Oh

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 You were also weird. Yeah, you are weirdly decynced for some reason.
Yeah, it's fine. The laughter brought me back.
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so so me, you be careful. You be careful.
Because they're going to combine the weird things with other things.

Speaker 1 Like, I guess, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, are you, are you, is, is tone being carried as well? Or is it... No, it's like a genuine curiosity.
Yeah, genuine. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Is this what it is? Yeah, there's no.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 So that's your update. That's your update on be careful.
Like, be fucking careful. And how do you answer that question? I don't know.
I don't. No, no.
No, sweetie. No.
We poop in the potty.

Speaker 1 Okay. We poop in the toilet.

Speaker 1 Okay. Problem solved.
And he goes, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Problem solved.

Speaker 1 Here, let's just close the call for a second and then reopen it just to see.

Speaker 1 Hold on, reflect. Do that.
Does that work?

Speaker 1 Oh, hello. Let's see.
I don't know. Are you back? I can still see you.

Speaker 1 Am I fixed? Yeah, you're fixed. Wow.
Yeah, you're fixed. That's crazy.
Okay. Okay, that's weird.
All right. Hey, so what's up with you, Wolves?

Speaker 1 Let's just speed around this shit because it's non-stop. Yeah, stuff's going on.

Speaker 1 So you beat Dispatch. How's that? I did not.

Speaker 1 But you streamed it twice. That's correct.

Speaker 1 I don't understand. Well, you know,

Speaker 1 a chunk of that stream was actually spent just chatting with people and hanging out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 by the numbers, I guess I had two hours on each of those episodes. So some of that was just talking

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 making decisions. I don't know.
Anyway,

Speaker 1 I wasn't going to start there. I was going to talk about other stuff.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's fine. Okay.
There's nothing to talk about until you beat dispatch.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I like it. Hey, You know, so

Speaker 1 I'm enjoying it. It's, it's, it's very, it's very, very, very good.
Um,

Speaker 1 and uh,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 making, making, making decisions, some of them not very popular, some of them very upsetting. Uh, my brain works the way it does,

Speaker 1 and uh, that's all I got for you, you know? All right, what else you got for me? Uh, I got the fact that

Speaker 1 Punch Kid now

Speaker 1 grabbing onto dreads during feeding, and that is the sickest development of all time.

Speaker 1 That fucking rules, and that's greater than any announcements any game can make. That's awesome, dude.
That's awesome. So here's my favorite part.

Speaker 1 I had the beard version of that because I had like a bushier beard, right?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I don't know what hair feels like on the top of my head anymore.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that is absolutely the best development ever

Speaker 1 for a couple more months.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 And then the arm strength is going to increase and it's going to go from this is adorable to, oh, oh, how are you so strong?

Speaker 1 Yes, no.

Speaker 1 That is, it's currently just a little hand on the, it's a little, it's a little this, you know? It's just a little ball.

Speaker 1 And very, yes, very quickly there will be there will come a problem and I'm quite aware of it. But for now, we'll enjoy it while it's cute.
That dude pulled hair out of my beard as a sub one-year-old.

Speaker 1 And I like, you get to have that moment of you can't even yell out in pain because that would scare them. So you just got to hit him with this.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Honey, no.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 also have noticed, and this is, so that this whole scaring them thing, that's also becoming an issue because,

Speaker 1 hey, guess what?

Speaker 1 Punch Mom is super jumpy, and yeah, now I'm straight up seeing just in the middle of everyone's having a good time, and just if you sneeze or if you cough, or if you even just kind of go, like, wow, there's just this little,

Speaker 1 you know, that she does. I'm like, oh no, she's inherited some of that jumpiness, and it doesn't matter how safe the environment is.

Speaker 1 What if this sudden, uh, what if this sudden movement of some kind is danger? You know, there's, um,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of fun

Speaker 1 in seeing what extraordinarily strong behaviors are innate from one parent to the other in your kid.

Speaker 1 Like, where they just turn and they do something, and it's like looking at either a tiny yourself or a tiny your wife, and you just go, Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, wow, oh,

Speaker 1 that's genetic,

Speaker 1 really,

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hoping for the best on that one. You know, we will see.
All the good parts, none of the icky parts.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I'll settle for all the funny parts. Oh, that's trouble.
I'll. Yeah.
Yeah. That's trouble, Willie.
The funny parts are.

Speaker 1 But anyway, that's going on.

Speaker 1 There's there's also

Speaker 1 a

Speaker 1 bit bit of a battle taking place

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 1 there is Christmas music that's starting to get played.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 some of that Christmas music was, you know,

Speaker 1 of the, like, the choices that Punch Bomb made were of the

Speaker 1 Bing Crosby variety.

Speaker 1 The groove, yes, you know, and I'm like, um,

Speaker 1 you know, I'm like, I like to beat my kids. Oh boy, let's get that to.

Speaker 1 So literally, I come down and I'm like, beat my kids, beat my kids. That I did, that I did.

Speaker 1 Soon it will,

Speaker 1 you know?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'm like, all right, let me get up the Caribbean playlist over here and just get some of that going. And I'm like, listen, listen, baby.
You're going to have a choice to make, okay?

Speaker 1 Inside of you, there are two wolves, and one wolf dances and claps on the ones and threes, and the other one dances on the twos and fours. We need to harness the correct numbers here.

Speaker 1 We need to get you on the right wolf. And then we'll find out if that's genetic.
Yeah. Can it be taught?

Speaker 1 I think nurture. I think nurture can install the correct thing right here.

Speaker 1 Every new child is a new attempt at the age-old battle. So

Speaker 1 we hit some of the caribbean music playlist and we started we started moving to it and i'm just like we gotta we gotta instill it early instill it early you know so

Speaker 1 our guy loves christmas music and he's old enough to like you know appreciate it and sing along uh so we'll put on uh what's it called we'll put on something called like super simple christmas songs it's christmas songs for babies it's like jingle bells but it's like you know less loud and less extreme right uh and we turn we turn the monitor off we turn the tv off like we turn the the the the picture off.

Speaker 1 So it's just, it's just a radio, right? And that dude will just like sit there and be like, la, la, la, la,

Speaker 1 jingle bell, like for like a good half hour, which is the most adorable shit ever. But then,

Speaker 1 all right, little man, it's time to go to bed. And you're like, you're like, everyone's like getting sleepy.
Everybody's falling asleep.

Speaker 1 Jingle bell, jingle bell. Like, just full

Speaker 1 25 minutes of the most adorable rendition of jingle bells you've ever heard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, full volume.

Speaker 1 And, you know, and there's a deep realization inside that it's like, okay, whether we, like, as, okay, well, fuck, obviously, all the mall music and the shit that burns into your brain and the Mariah Carey, etc.

Speaker 1 That's all she wants for Christmas, dude. But,

Speaker 1 yeah, well, all I want for Christmas is a piece of corn because

Speaker 1 that's what I was raised on. I want a piece of corn for me, Christmas.
You don't want the manicu. You can keep the kalalu.
Me want a piece of corn for me, Christmas.

Speaker 1 That's how we did it. Okay.
That's horrible. I like that.
And

Speaker 1 so there soon is going to be a line that is drawn further back from the original line drawn here. And that's going to be all of this type of Christmas music, annoying and not annoying included,

Speaker 1 versus the slop playlist that auto generates and you know is going to be play this for your kids and it'll be the AI Christmas music infinite playlist go forever and it's just various degrees doesn't approve of the AI Christmas music.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think everything he's generating is wine and fish and bread. Thank you.
Well, I, yeah, but I think Jesus just signed a deal with Sora.

Speaker 1 I think think Jesus just signed a deal with Sora to be the exclusive platform. So, you know, time to go take down all those others, but hey, you got to invest heavy.
And Jesus knows

Speaker 1 to get in on the ground floor. Billion dollar deal from

Speaker 1 the son of God.

Speaker 1 Kind of incredible exclusive rights. Man, this week sucks.
I realize that all these are wrapped up. Okay.
I don't listen.

Speaker 1 We don't have the time nor wherewithal to bother, to be perfectly honest, because we can just talk fucking Game Awards announcements.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I mean, one of those actually leads right into the Game Awards, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 But, but, okay, beyond that, a couple things, I guess.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 I checked out a couple of small games as well. I've been poking at some stuff

Speaker 1 I've gotten suggestions for. And one of them that I saw for a while, but I never bothered.

Speaker 1 I didn't properly sit down and boot up.

Speaker 1 Just shapes and beats. Old old game, showed up a lot at

Speaker 1 that is properly old man game right now. Yeah, that's a couple years old now, but I remember seeing it at a lot of conventions.

Speaker 1 I remember seeing it at MagFest, I remember seeing it at a bunch of booths and places, and I was like, Yeah, that looks really cool, but I just never really sat and gave it a time.

Speaker 1 And it's like, fuck, that's just a great, simple, awesome thing. And

Speaker 1 it's also like that's something where it's not, it's not low stim, but it's something where I'm like, I could show this to her

Speaker 1 in her early years of gaming to just kind of like enjoy a pixel moving through rhythm and music and, you know what I mean? Just kind of having a musical time.

Speaker 1 Like, I kind of looking for things that are, you know, once we graduate from low stim to like stim, but simple and kind of fun. And I kind of saw that as like a pretty cool game for that.

Speaker 1 And a little story where

Speaker 1 you move your little pixel along and there's little tech in play where every time you get from one part of the stage to another, where it's essentially you're just controlling a little pixel, and the music is attacking you in waves, lines, shapes, and forms.

Speaker 1 And you have to dodge bullets, and all you have is

Speaker 1 a dash button that gives you a couple of invincibility frames. And hit a target, and then you've cleared that part of the stage.
But they do a cool thing where no matter when you hit the target,

Speaker 1 there's a little stall, and then it hits into the next, the stage moves forward on the beat always, you know, but it does a thing where it can always correct for whenever you got to the target and get you right back on the beat.

Speaker 1 You know, little, little tricks like that are always fun.

Speaker 1 And Danimal Cannon was a name that I've seen pop up a bunch at like MagFest and a couple other places as well. And I was like, oh, shit.
Okay, that's, this is where, this is where.

Speaker 1 And I believe I've like, yeah, met and, and,

Speaker 1 you know, through mutuals, but I didn't realize what the project was at the time. And I'm playing this now going, fuck, what a great sick game from 2018.

Speaker 1 So just shapes and beats Beats is the name of it. And it's like, this could have also been something from the era of

Speaker 1 Luminous, Patapon, PSP,

Speaker 1 you know, rhythm visuals and cool shit. Keeping it simple.

Speaker 1 Did you try their new not-Patapon ratata?

Speaker 1 I didn't try it, but I remember when that got announced. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Anything?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wonder. I wonder.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because there was room in our hearts for Patapon and Patapon 2, but I don't know how the other one went.

Speaker 1 What else happened? I checked out another small game called.

Speaker 1 There's a demo, actually, it's called Raccoin.

Speaker 1 And it is...

Speaker 1 Sounds familiar. It is.
So looking for these roguelike, Balatro-like, you know, every stage you get a new ability and you progress and you get different skills and blocks that have different things.

Speaker 1 That's the fucking thing. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 But it's a roguelike little coin game.

Speaker 1 The fucking coin pusher machine. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 Whenever you used to go to the arcades and you saw that scam machine where it was like you drop a coin and then it pushes a few quarters to the edge and maybe one of those falls over and gets into your little basket and now you get a free quarter.

Speaker 1 That thing was such a ripoff every time I saw it. And you know they strategically placed them right on the edge to look like they're going to fall over, but they never fucking fall over.

Speaker 1 And so they made a

Speaker 1 roguelike out of that. And sure enough, it's cute and it's fun and it's got juice to it.
Because the problem is in real life is it takes a bunch of coins to make anything happen in those games.

Speaker 1 So it's always deeply unsatisfying. But what if in this game you're sitting down and you got like 50 coins to shoot in? And you can choose left, right, or middle.

Speaker 1 So you're, you're, and then the physics are all pushing things over. So you don't have to worry about that bullshit of real life where the quarters are too expensive, you know?

Speaker 1 And then furthermore, when you start to build up a good pattern, like a nice like tower stack of coins comes up the middle and that all falls over and you collect them all, you start getting special coins where

Speaker 1 if this coin, like a rabbit coin, if a rabbit coin hits a rabbit coin, they have a bunch of rabbit babies, baby coins, and then those coins all multiply and stuff, right?

Speaker 1 So you start aiming your coins to hit certain things, or

Speaker 1 a vacuum coin is going to just like swallow up everything in a tornado circle.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, and it's just, and it's, it's scratching an itch you have deep inside from every time you looked at one of these machines, but were never able to, and you rightfully never able to win anything because they fucking rip you off all the time.

Speaker 1 Every single time I saw one of this, I've never actually played any of these because I looked at them and I'm like, man, that looks like the scammiest part of this entire place. Such dirt.

Speaker 1 Like, it even visually appears to be a bigger criminal scam scam than like a claw machine. At least the claw machine like hides the fact that it's not fully powered.

Speaker 1 This thing just looks fake as shit. Well, it's like it's using your money.
It's using the money to show you how much it's stolen from people. And that's part of what you're seeing.

Speaker 1 Because the few times I remember trying, the same thing happens. You drop a quarter, it lands like this, and then the pusher does this.

Speaker 1 And then the pusher just makes the quarter slide over the other quarter, and then nothing happens forever.

Speaker 1 Absolute criminal bullshit. And this is making it so that

Speaker 1 you can rectify these wrongs from childhood. And it's fun.
So raccoon, you're playing a little raccoon who's shoving coins in. The coins have themes, and

Speaker 1 between each level,

Speaker 1 you can spend your money to level up different powers and abilities and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 We can do this. We can use the power of ballotro-like,

Speaker 1 you know, roguelike progression to go back to scams from our childhood and

Speaker 1 scratch the itch. Can we point the children at

Speaker 1 scam?

Speaker 1 How do I put this?

Speaker 1 The feel of scam without actual scam?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can we follow the gambling addiction, all of it? Dopamine hit into fake scam like Balatro and Ratcoin and shit like that. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Scam likes. That's a great name for a Jacksnose.
Like someone's saying, I think we're learning that Wooly's bad at coin pushers. It's like, bitch, you had the money to dump into that?

Speaker 1 Really? I'm sorry we didn't all have fucking a giant amount to go dump in and watch

Speaker 1 more quarters. I can play Street Fighter or More Combat

Speaker 1 or Time Crisis for like 40 minutes. Or I can play this for one second and lose.

Speaker 1 Fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 that was how

Speaker 1 the days were spent. Um, speaking of using those quarters and making them last, and uh, when you fight somebody that doesn't risk you losing your quarter, um, it's free.
So that's why they're free.

Speaker 1 Uh, a fact that you can learn from the latest Core A gaming video

Speaker 1 how to get started at playing fighting games and particularly to X KO. And it's really good.

Speaker 1 It's a really good video, just sidebar, because it's probably the most unassuming one I've seen in that it's it's starting out with like okay so here's what happens when you start one of these games and you don't know what's going on and from the very beginning of like okay blocking what is that even how does that even work right and like it it takes a good approach to walking you through from button mashing to what each of these little building blocks of understanding are and i'm it's kind of insane that by the end of it it's an 18 minute video and the concept of frame data is introduced but i'm like how are you going to do that in a video for beginners and sure enough with good word usage and very clean visuals there's a there's a a very simple way that that core uses to explain it so um

Speaker 1 go check out go check out their latest video on that very very good uh gerald is is doing it anyway um

Speaker 1 yep so that was raccoin that was shapes and beats um played some dispatch gonna continue.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna wrap that up next time. We are on, we did five and six.
Oh, no, four and five.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 saw that managed to put the proper precautions into place. And yeah, I can see how that intro.

Speaker 1 Now I can see how it got flagged, but I also didn't know that YouTube cared about audio to begin with. So

Speaker 1 that's batch it.

Speaker 1 So apparently the reason I got caught is because

Speaker 1 I was like silent. I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 Instead of talking over it as much as possible to muddle it up.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 I just played it extra safe on that. But I kind of want to go back through and see the, I mean, there's a bunch of shit there, too, where, like, just cheeks out fucking

Speaker 1 gags that are missing, too, that I'm like, ah, fuck.

Speaker 1 Did you go back and check out what those gags were? No, no, I didn't.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 you'll see why they got

Speaker 1 black part over. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm assuming the worst because my brain auto-fills the black with just like the most extreme detail and like just, you know, like it's not, it can't just be a censored dogger.

Speaker 1 It's got to be giant and vascular. It's got to be ridiculous Dr.
Manhattan. And it's got to have sound effects as it flops around.
You know, it can't just be cheeks off of grandpa.

Speaker 1 They got to be like, like, absolutely caked up and shiny.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 Anyway, I guess we'll find out.

Speaker 1 But that's cool.

Speaker 1 And yeah, and I guess beyond that, I think

Speaker 1 there's definitely a part of me that is, in the way my brain works, is

Speaker 1 not baked for

Speaker 1 high pressure

Speaker 1 pattern recognition and

Speaker 1 like improvisation,

Speaker 1 I think. Do you mean video games? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think, I guess so.

Speaker 1 But in this case, it's the particular type of this genre, I suppose.

Speaker 1 But, you know. Whatever the case,

Speaker 1 I'm.

Speaker 1 You just described. That was like wildly broad.
That was like an incredibly wide description. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I

Speaker 1 for the same reasons that I'm also,

Speaker 1 but you get to, but you get to make the patterns predictable because you can go see them again and again and again in advance, you know?

Speaker 1 So when it's the first time the moment's happening and you got to improvise and piece together the bit, I'm like, I do it. I got to.

Speaker 1 And it's the same skill. You should have the timer be longer and not pause the time when you go into the the the the hero select hmm

Speaker 1 well I mean they should make it like 15 seconds longer like on average but like they shouldn't pause the timer at all I mean like stat wise I think the the the the way those missions went was like pretty good like I only fucked up like maybe two

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 some of those shifts like I think at max but like um but there's things where I'm just like okay what does this word mean and I got to take take a second to like you know think about work through like what I think that word would would mean or so um

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 I think I think it anyway whatever all this to say that uh it's just it's the game is just like go with the vibes go with the flow fuck up don't fuck up go whatever and I'm like trying to try to stop and and parse it that's how that's how my brain works um so but the game's great I

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 don't want to

Speaker 1 yeah whatever we'll see where the chances and and where the things go but I there's I'm sure we're I'm right in the middle of potential spoiler territory so I'm just going to leave it there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you really are. Yeah, you're right.
I'm just going to leave it there. Well, we'll just talk about that next week.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Beyond that,

Speaker 1 if you want to see

Speaker 1 me tormenting one-eyed patchwork, I jumped over to his charity stream for a minute and had a good time forcing him to restart his playthrough of Shenmue 3, so that was enjoyable.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 one Gianni Matra Grano, happened to be in town. And I said, get the fuck over here.
We're slapping.

Speaker 1 And Gianni came over with his lovely wife, Marika, and we slopped it up.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it was pretty appropriate because the scheduled plan for the weekend was going to be.

Speaker 1 an activity that often involves one of his memes popping up at some point almost every single episode. You know, so I'm like, yeah,

Speaker 1 get in here. It's the time when we get exposed to your dumb shit on a regular basis.
And that was cool.

Speaker 1 Very, very chill.

Speaker 1 Them voice people, you know, they can just turn it on and off.

Speaker 1 Just like that. It's kind of incredible.
I understand that. I know.
I don't know how they do that. I know.
And that's why you got to get rid of them and replace them with the robots, you know?

Speaker 1 I can't even change the voices in my own mind

Speaker 1 the voices on the outside.

Speaker 1 That is true. And what I always love, what I always love is like when

Speaker 1 you meet somebody and then, you know, I mean, we obviously chatted on

Speaker 1 this podcast like a couple years back, but when you meet somebody with their significant other and within seconds, it's just like, oh, this is a complete mess that's fallen apart without the support structure that is the partner here.

Speaker 1 And he's just like, yep, yep, yep, she's she's she's here to keep me in line. She's the one that I'm like, okay, understood.

Speaker 1 And then, and then it very quickly just becomes the like, like, kind of like with Paige, it's like, oh, this is your biggest cheerleader and the one praying hardest for your downfall simultaneously.

Speaker 1 That energy is precious, and uh, it's, it's great, it's great. So

Speaker 1 right away, the bit was understood. You know,

Speaker 1 how can we collectively,

Speaker 1 you know, big up and expose balls at the same time?

Speaker 1 The term voice ussy was used more than once.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what else?

Speaker 1 It's gone too far. It's gone too far.

Speaker 1 We need to go back in time and get

Speaker 1 Lil Bussy Man or

Speaker 1 Lil Bussy Man.

Speaker 1 Imagine Obama. We need to stop them.

Speaker 1 I think not far enough, I think, quite frankly.

Speaker 1 We can use all the new variants of Usy. Like, we're just, look, we're stepping beyond 151 Pokemon.
That's all. All right? Just get ready for Gen 2.
No, no, no, go back on that, too.

Speaker 1 You just have to accept it. The Polkadus E has gone too far.

Speaker 1 There was no salazzle back in my day.

Speaker 1 But now salazzle's there for everybody.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately. Bro, I don't even know what...

Speaker 1 You know which one Salazl is. You might as well have just made that the fuck up.

Speaker 1 You know deep in your heart. I certainly don't know who the fuck that is.

Speaker 1 I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 It's batting its eyelashes at you. What the fuck is a Salazil? Is that the fucking and Z new

Speaker 1 Gardevoir?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 That's the one. No.
It's not the Gardevoir. It's the one that's looking at you.

Speaker 1 This in the response of this conversation. It's looking at you.
It's letting you know what's up.

Speaker 1 It's trying to figure you out. 258.
Society is over.

Speaker 1 That's too many. Is that the number?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the number. It's 258.
Because I was like, that can't be the rule 30 portal. No.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm like, that number is way too low. I don't know where to go with that.

Speaker 1 Way too low for the 30 portal.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that's pretty much it. That was pretty much it.
So, you know,

Speaker 1 gonna be jumping back in to Expedition 33, which had some fucking new content that just dropped. And this is gonna be odd because

Speaker 1 I might be experiencing that new content

Speaker 1 with Reggie for the first time in the LP.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 going to be weird. I'm going to see if I can figure that out.

Speaker 1 Where are you guys at?

Speaker 1 Middle end of Act Two.

Speaker 1 You got a ways to go, brother.

Speaker 1 So, where. Do you know the name of the area? I know the name of it, but I...
Okay, you know the other area with that name? Yep. Approximately the same.
You got to be there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Second to last thing, maybe.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. You don't get there for a minute then.
No.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, then I got time.

Speaker 1 You got time.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I was, because, yeah, I didn't know where the door was to the new content. But if I tell you where the door is, I'll tell you right now.

Speaker 1 But but but if you but saying when the door is is actually more crucial here. So if we're talking right before the end, okay, great, great, great, cool.

Speaker 1 And it's the highest level

Speaker 1 content in the game.

Speaker 1 I feel like I haven't played

Speaker 1 the base game in quite a while. It's either the highest or the second highest, but I believe it might be the highest.

Speaker 1 It's mandatory.

Speaker 1 It is not mandatory.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 No, no,

Speaker 1 you misunderstood what I said. Okay.
You need to be in Act 3.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 It is,

Speaker 1 it is, it is,

Speaker 1 it gives you some, so I did it.

Speaker 1 It's really good.

Speaker 1 It's fairly short.

Speaker 1 It comes alongside.

Speaker 1 So, so it's one of those things, okay, so like you go in. It's got great quality of life updates.
And it's got lots of fun stuff. It also has some new weapons in it,

Speaker 1 and you get the new weapons, you're like, wow, this is insanely busted. And then you get new Pictos,

Speaker 1 which I would describe as meta-annihilating pictos

Speaker 1 beyond the meta that's already in shards by this point.

Speaker 1 I will give you a taste of what one of the I think 15 Pictos is. All right, there is a Picto called Frenzy, and the Picto says, Every hit in a skill does 10% more damage than the last one.

Speaker 1 Oh my god.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Phantom stars. You're like, oh, was billions not enough? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Phantom stars to the end of time. I see.
Okay. And then

Speaker 1 they send you up against a new super boss who is awesome. One of the best fights in the game.
And then they go, hey, listen.

Speaker 1 You know that thing that was like the super boss, but you all trivialize that into dirt with your one-shot, one-kill nonsense?

Speaker 1 Okay, here's four more of those.

Speaker 1 And we've built it for that guy on TikTok teaching you how to do the 1.4 trillion damage build.

Speaker 1 No. Just...

Speaker 1 Just the absolute.

Speaker 1 Do you remember fighting the consort at the end of fucking Shadow of the Urdree?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And being like, I think this is as far as this system can push a character? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 The new post-patch super bosses are, I think, at the numerical and functional limit of how far that system can go. Okay.

Speaker 1 I have to imagine, as, again,

Speaker 1 we're building a DLC to a thing that people

Speaker 1 were crushing that was meant to be challenging so we need to make the sweats as sweaty as possible without making it impossible it is

Speaker 1 okay so there are four of the new super d super bosses super duper not been able to make even a smidge of headway on the easiest of the four okay and i was able to crush the last one in like a couple of days and i'm assuming made no progress and i'm assuming that they have installed insurance against bullshittery.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You're to use your bullshittery. But it's just the bullshittery makes it normal or even fair.
Okay, remember how fucked up you could make your characters by the end of like the last area?

Speaker 1 They have done that

Speaker 1 to their bosses in the other direction. Okay.

Speaker 1 The assumption is that you're going in here trying to break numbers.

Speaker 1 Because I'm just like, when you break numbers to a certain degree, it just becomes hell or hell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yes, yes, that is exactly how it is. Okay.
Okay. All right.
Health values may as well not exist.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Well, yeah.
So there's some time. So yeah, I guess based on it being, you know, towards the later,

Speaker 1 I'll be able to go back in and see what's going on. There was a really excellent

Speaker 1 thing where somebody on Blue Sky said, hey, bro, you're not going to fucking beat these bosses. And I went, yeah, okay, I'll remember that.

Speaker 1 And then I went and streamed it, and then I was like, oh, yeah, that dude was right.

Speaker 1 That dude was super right. How's about the quality of life? How about the favorites, the loadouts, the pictos, the luminas?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the ability to save 50 Lumina sets is awesome and absolutely great. And you can name them and you can set them

Speaker 1 up that you you can, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, no, they're not per character. They're, they're, they're, they're anybody.
So you can, you can save it on Myel and then put it on Lunay.

Speaker 1 And if you have the Pictos equipped, it just won't equip those. Great, great, great.
It's very useful.

Speaker 1 Uh, there's only one problem for them, and it's a really, really, really, really, really big problem.

Speaker 1 And that is, I have been given Picto sets or Lumina sets or whatever you want to call them at the 99th percentile mark in the game after an eight-month break.

Speaker 1 Um, I don't remember what any memory, memory memory.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fucking burn build I had was.

Speaker 1 I don't know. So I actually just kept the glass cannon for everyone build that I had at the end forever

Speaker 1 and just kept adding more glass cannon stuff that I could find. Right, right, right.
And just like, I'll just have to figure it out. And so if I ever want to,

Speaker 1 if I ever want to, what do you call it?

Speaker 1 Go back and fight those super bosses, it'll have to actually be at the end of a new playthrough because I don't remember how to play.

Speaker 1 So fortunately,

Speaker 1 having done this recently for Reggie going through it, like me just looking at what the skills are, it's not that long to remember. Like you just kind of look at the skill tree.

Speaker 1 I have a lot of Lumina. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I know, I know.

Speaker 1 But like, you know, you're looking at the skill tree and thankfully, this is where the wording of all the pictos comes into play really, really well.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's actually something that's way better now because you can now search via every stat and you can now search by every type. Great.
So

Speaker 1 you can sort by the word burn. Exactly, because that's it.
I'm like, if you just go for anything that says energizing, you're like, I want an AP build. Here we go.
And you find it like that, you know?

Speaker 1 The ability to like look at all these words, repeat is fantastic. And

Speaker 1 ironically, as much as I love it and it's super cool, it makes names like in media res

Speaker 1 actually

Speaker 1 hurt in a giant pile, you know, sometimes because you're like, ah, the more creative the name, like the more difficult it is to find when you're looking at hundreds of them, you know?

Speaker 1 I've been thinking a lot about

Speaker 1 that game's difficulty curve. And if I go back through it again, I'm going to use, I'm going to completely evenly split everything across all the characters.

Speaker 1 um and i'm not gonna farm any lumina because

Speaker 1 uh i think even focusing on three characters instead of the full team is what screwed up my difficulty progression because like oh you didn't you didn't distribute evenly No, I had

Speaker 1 when I got to the end of act two, I had three characters who stole all the juice. Oh, I distributed.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That caused numbers to spiral out of fucking control. No, I kept even because I knew at any moment I could pick something up that would make this character fucking ridiculous.
You know,

Speaker 1 starting in your best mode is often the weapon that is like, yep, time to put you up, you know,

Speaker 1 whether it's Almighty or fucking

Speaker 1 all versions of it. Also, the next time I go through it, I think I will not go into any red areas because

Speaker 1 you mentioned In Media Res.

Speaker 1 In Media media res fucks up the balance of the entire game more than anything else because you don't actually fight the dudes to get in media res you cushion around

Speaker 1 and then you pick it up which is exactly what he did yeah it massively fucks up i watched the whole rest of the game i watched reggie just play football and run through and barry sanders his way out of there without the fight you know uh it was quite funny um also so it's not just that one too it's when you do the um frozen heart or the frozen flame, whatever, the mountain.

Speaker 1 That area is poorly placed and will ruin the whole game. That will ruin everything.
You go up that mountain, you come back down so huge and so jacked

Speaker 1 that it's fucked. And without doing the mountain,

Speaker 1 he went on to face the,

Speaker 1 you know, the

Speaker 1 whatever, the, the, the, the, the cane man, the runaway, the, the, the fucking the heart of Lumio. Actually, just say act two.
Act two.

Speaker 1 Act two, right?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that was, again, a laughably low HP fight where you don't get to see anything cool without getting huge.

Speaker 1 So it was just kind of like, ah,

Speaker 1 I was worried. It's not completable even if you just go straight ahead.
Straight ahead without any side paths, right?

Speaker 1 Straight ahead with a good sense of parry timing is still too much for the critical path.

Speaker 1 So yeah, it's, it's, uh, that there was also right after that was like, okay, let's crank that difficulty up. Let's, you know, because

Speaker 1 we were playing on normal up until that point. And

Speaker 1 I was shocked to see that, you know, with no upgrading whatsoever, you know? Anyway,

Speaker 1 that sounds good. The loadouts, super crucial.

Speaker 1 And yeah, there is a part of this too that is tricky about the let's play version of going through this game is

Speaker 1 there's

Speaker 1 very valuable hours or very valuable time time spent staring at the Lumina screen, the Picto screens, and your skill tree and thinking about builds.

Speaker 1 Luckily enough, the time that this patch came out really

Speaker 1 showed up right at the perfect time for that was when you're like act two end of act two? And towards the end of Act Two, yeah. Right.
That's when that shit started to get really tiresome

Speaker 1 and like unmanageable. But now you will have, now you have like luminous set like it's useful just to have a luminous set even if it's not a complete set that's just like put every burn on

Speaker 1 put them all on so this happened in this happened in cyberpunk when I was playing it and I solved it by off-camera staring at every upgrade branch and path and going to the Ripper dock and seeing all their upgrades and going, okay

Speaker 1 I'm going to just internalize and see what's possible and so on. But these are the moments where I yeah, there's no way in a, in a Let's Play to really get around it.

Speaker 1 Like, the game wants you to enjoy its depth by you internalizing these systems, but you have to stare at them and read and get into it in a way that is going to take way too long as you progress, you know?

Speaker 1 So, um,

Speaker 1 anyway, uh, uh, gonna be gonna be uh doing that.

Speaker 1 And also, like, I told him to like, you know, come over a little bit and off camera, we'll kind of just take a look at some of these potential ideas and get the juices flowing.

Speaker 1 Cool stuff going on there. Yeah, so we're going to continue Expedition 33 tomorrow.
And then,

Speaker 1 yeah, this Saturday, get into fighting games, come hang out. That's pretty much it.
That's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 What did I get up to over the past? Oh, me and Paige beat Resident Evil 2 blind. Paige beat it.
Did it. Awesome.
Good for her.

Speaker 1 That was fantastic. And

Speaker 1 did the blind guiding go all the way through up until the end, or did you eventually let the bike go? Yep. Okay.
No, no, the blind guiding went all the way up through the end.

Speaker 1 I took the blindfold off to do some of Leon B

Speaker 1 because I was like,

Speaker 1 I have absolutely made my point and saw some comments like, dude, the blindfold functionally didn't do anything. Would have been exactly the same if the blindfold was off.

Speaker 1 Woo

Speaker 1 did it.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 watched the game awards. Oh, I also played the Pragmata demo.
Oh, yes. Yeah.
So that, I mean, that's part of the docket. Where a robot looks like my child jumps on your back and does hacking puzzles.

Speaker 1 That is...

Speaker 1 That game's a lot simpler than it appears. It is Resident Evil 4 in space.

Speaker 1 But in order to make enemies vulnerable to your attacks, as they slowly walk towards you, you do a little hacking mini-game on them. Okay.
And it's very enjoyable.

Speaker 1 It's very enjoyable to be aiming and shooting and then having to take a second to do hacking. Okay.
And, you know, it has pass through these notes to do more damage or link enemies. It's very cool.

Speaker 1 I didn't, yeah, I was trying to, the one thing I don't have is a sense of like,

Speaker 1 was it, are you going through loads of enemies and or are you taking on like one big one at a time? Oh, you're going through like

Speaker 1 two at a time. Okay.
Okay. Because

Speaker 1 you still have to have time to do your little hacking game. Okay.
Right. Now, granted, this is probably the very beginning of the game.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 all signs point towards fresh, brand new IP, no connections anywhere. Other than the fact that the little girl's wearing a blue bomber jacket.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which is like.

Speaker 1 I see what you do.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
But you know what, though? Like, still, good on Capcom for fucking trying in a very obvious way between this and the fucking dinosaurs.

Speaker 1 And even when I'm laughing at Exoprimal, I'm laughing, but I'm like, hey, you're trying new shit.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, this is good.

Speaker 1 Because it seems like Vanquish with the little mega girls is kind of a cool idea, you know? It's really slow compared to Vanquish. Yeah, I guess it has

Speaker 1 the aesthetic, and that's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 That's pretty much it. Other than that, I watched the Game Awards.

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 yes

Speaker 1 so that is a big old list of stuff not all of

Speaker 1 not all of which matters um

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 uh uh uh we'll get into some of it and then um

Speaker 1 take a quick break but uh right off the bat i'm just gonna say that uh as far as the street fighter trailer is concerned uh-huh i have a couple thoughts and

Speaker 1 very much so.

Speaker 1 This is the most...

Speaker 1 I'm going to, I have zero expectation, and I know that

Speaker 1 I'm going in like, if this is a hilarious, absolute turd,

Speaker 1 let's great.

Speaker 1 And if this somehow becomes a self-aware turd, that's even funnier.

Speaker 1 Some of the choreography in that trailer looks kind of fucking sick.

Speaker 1 That one-two back throw into the kick off the wall is like, ooh, okay.

Speaker 1 So we'll see what happens, but

Speaker 1 I think potentially it can be,

Speaker 1 this is not, this doesn't look like it's going to land in the middle and be completely forgettable, right? This looks like it's going to be self-aware and terrible or completely unaware and terrible.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 be god-awful. This is trash, dude.
But I think we're lucky that it's going to be in an entertaining way as opposed to in a nothing way, based on the website.

Speaker 1 It would be nice if the movie was trash in a way that was funny.

Speaker 1 You know, you're seeing the jackhammer. You're seeing a little El Forte in there.
You're seeing the fucking Cody Rhodes wig.

Speaker 1 Fidia's Balrog is still a really good outfit. Like, the costuming there is incredible.
And the guy who's playing dictator is, that's a good face for a dictator.

Speaker 1 That's such a weird guy for dictator. I forget that guy's name.
I think the face works.

Speaker 1 But then, like, yeah, getting claw, getting Vega, because it's like, oh, yeah, that dude wears masks all the time, anyways. It's like, sure,

Speaker 1 whatever. Fucking

Speaker 1 Momoa Blanca and Akuma Reigns is the dumbest shit ever. That's such Minecraft Jumanji casting.
It's such. We just get the names.
Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 I have a piece of information about Bison's casting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There was a different actor who was supposed to play M. Bison, but they were busy with a different project.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 That person that could have been M. Bison in that movie would have been Walton Gawkins.
Get the fuck out of here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you know how I know that.

Speaker 1 He's got the the jaw.

Speaker 1 He's busy.

Speaker 1 He's busy right now. He's got the jaw.
Daghoul.

Speaker 1 But... Bro, that would have rocked, though.
Seriously, he can camp that shit the fuck up. For real.
Let me stare at this fucker. Let me stare.
What does he actually look like? For real.

Speaker 1 Oh, he looks like a guy who enjoys a good apple. Okay, so if I cut this and put a big dictator hat.
Are you just

Speaker 1 like, just kind of

Speaker 1 image framing? So he's a good actor that can become anything.

Speaker 1 That much is clear. But it just, you need to cut a strong jawline.
And I see it. I do see the jawline here.
Sure.

Speaker 1 But, anyways, yeah, this trailer is just, again, it can be everything and nothing.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we need to, there needs to be a name for that kind of,

Speaker 1 yeah, the the the

Speaker 1 Minecraft, Jumanji, uh,

Speaker 1 uh, uh, Borderlands ass

Speaker 1 like Roman Reigns and Momoa cast pull, where you're like, you're a horrible fit for this.

Speaker 1 But you need wrestlers, bro. You're on the list, though.
They need wrestlers.

Speaker 1 For game adaptation movies specifically, you gotta have one of these faces. Just go scoop up a couple wrestlers off the mat.

Speaker 1 Just pile them in and pour them out. Ugh.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 getting like popcorn out of the fucking tub.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And they're like, we look, Eric Andre is attached.
We don't know what role he's going to play, but he's attached. Go find something.

Speaker 1 The announcer. No, he's playing the guy with the megaphone in Street Fighter 4's Brog stage.

Speaker 1 They gave him a name, like Don something. And it's like, he's literally the guy with the big top hat going, ah, you know?

Speaker 1 And he's just like, he's, that's a role now with a name and everything. Don Sauvage, Don Savage.

Speaker 1 Like, what the fuck? You know, anyway, whatever.

Speaker 1 And they also, I knew, I remember hearing, like, oh, yeah, they're looking for an excuse to get Vulcan. And so, like, now he's Joe.
So, um,

Speaker 1 there, there it is. Uh, that was that.
What else is going on?

Speaker 1 Again, there were a lot. There was like a good 50 things announced here, but

Speaker 1 obviously

Speaker 1 not all of it worth talking about. So I bolded a couple things.

Speaker 1 How about fucking Gang of Dragon?

Speaker 1 How about T He

Speaker 1 L O L O L? Bro. You can't do nothing to me.
The name is different enough. The energy is different enough.
Negoti Studio, I'ma do what i want

Speaker 1 it it's a pretty cool name it's it's

Speaker 1 it looks pretty fun it's just wild that you're not even pretending to give a fuck what if i made the exact same game like literally like literally like literally but you're a non-secret korean

Speaker 1 yep overt overt korean actually

Speaker 1 uh i saw uh um what i saw a site that had it like in the news and like mistranslated the name of Gang of Dragons and it made me so upset because it instantly became the least cool title in the world like it works because it's singular

Speaker 1 Unpluralized gang of dragon It must be dragon. It cannot be dragons.

Speaker 1 No, I'm I'm I'm a whole gang of dragon in myself. Yes

Speaker 1 It's also a game made to impress his Yakuza friends so that when they play it, they go, oh, Nagoshi.

Speaker 1 Of note is

Speaker 1 if you look at the screenshots they put out, there's actually like driving and shooting guns into people. So like this

Speaker 1 big Korean man will be a murderer.

Speaker 1 We're not playing games with the...

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yep.
Which like... Never killed.

Speaker 1 The idea of making like 10 games in a row of a noble Japanese gangster that doesn't kill people only to make one game in which you play a Korean gangster and going, oh, now he can kill people. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is really funny. But you got to have the scenes.

Speaker 1 But then you got to have the scenes afterwards where he has a drink and it's just like, sometimes you got to do what you got to do. You know.

Speaker 1 Do you think this will then therefore lead to there being secret Japanese?

Speaker 1 Secret Japanese in Japan would be an awesome storyline.

Speaker 1 That would be really fucking cool. Deep, deep in the Chinese gangs or the Korean gangs.

Speaker 1 Fucking

Speaker 1 secretly Japanese.

Speaker 1 Secret, like

Speaker 1 one of the secret Koreans actually just ended up being Japanese and be like, I tricked you.

Speaker 1 That'd be wonderful. Gang of Dragon, cool.

Speaker 1 Not only are we done with the Tomb Raider Survivor trilogy, but we're doubling down and swerving back back to original Lara, remaking

Speaker 1 Tomb Raider 1, and making a sequel to

Speaker 1 8, was it? Or 7? Tomb Raider Underworld. Ain't Darkness?

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 they're going full hard back to the originals. Okay, so two things.
One, this is the second full-on remake of Tomb Raider 1.

Speaker 1 There was Tomb Raider Anniversary. Right, but not reboot.
We are remaking, but not rebooting. Yeah, this is the second full-on remake of Tomb Raider 1.
And the weirdest.

Speaker 1 It actually made me feel stupid because I was watching it. I'm like, oh, this looks like it's going back to more like Tomb Raider 1 kind of stuff.
Like, you know, old time. Oh, it is.

Speaker 1 It literally is. It is.
And then you see her shooting the dinosaurs, and you're like, well, of course, we know what the fuck that is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 no one was asking for a sequel to fucking Tomb Raider Underworld. No, no, but They weren't.
But what got me and Min super confused was the faces because

Speaker 1 the face in the new game,

Speaker 1 Catalyst, was a brand new

Speaker 1 Lara face that is like, oh, I guess they're just starting over again and doing a whole new thing. But then they showed the next game, which is

Speaker 1 Legacy of Atlantis, the remake of the first game, and her face looks like the

Speaker 1 one from the survivor trilogy.

Speaker 1 Right? So I was like, oh, you're... What? These are both being different companies, which is...
I don't. It's fucking.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Crystal D's doing the

Speaker 1 main, I think the main sequel one, and then I think... I didn't see the dev on the other.

Speaker 1 But there was a bit there where I was like, their faces look different.

Speaker 1 It didn't just look like she was a bit older to me, but,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 maybe, yeah, look, I can go back and get the side by side, but I feel like I was like, this one looks like a brand new face, and then this one looks like the sequel, the remake, the reboot face, but then placed back on the remake.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 That was the impression. Maybe I'm wrong.
I'm seeing a lot of people disagree.

Speaker 1 I found it kind of confusing that they were releasing two games back to back by different companies that are like of different

Speaker 1 like the beginning and also the end to like a series of like man the two the tomb raider plot is just like there's a fucking artifact and she wants to steal it that's it

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 ah because there was the tomb raider like legend fucking

Speaker 1 timeline and then the re it's so fuck stop it just stop

Speaker 1 and don't forget don't forget the um

Speaker 1 don't forget the lauer croft

Speaker 1 platformer timeline as well.

Speaker 1 Oh, right, well,

Speaker 1 Totek. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Man, that first game was a million times better than that second one.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at a screenshot of her face in the Survivor Trilogy and in Legacy of Atlantis, and it looks pretty close to me, but eh.

Speaker 1 Particularly, I guess,

Speaker 1 this

Speaker 1 one.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm like, that's, that's, that's kind of what I was thinking of, yeah,

Speaker 1 but whatever, doesn't matter. Um,

Speaker 1 then we saw, okay, and I have to, okay, I have to say,

Speaker 1 this is done its its job and completely pulled me in the remedy trailer for control

Speaker 1 Resonant fucking looks amazing. It looks so cool that

Speaker 1 they made DMC Devil May Cry 2

Speaker 1 It looks so cool that they did that. I love

Speaker 1 the uh

Speaker 1 before the character action parts of that started happening

Speaker 1 just the direction and

Speaker 1 the use of sound and visuals were like really, really strong. Like, I was already like, yo, this fucking looks really, really well done.

Speaker 1 So this is like, I really don't mean to sound condescending. I don't know how to say this otherwise.
That's what remedy games look like. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Remedy games look super fucking cool. No, and again,

Speaker 1 we played a few hours of control, you know?

Speaker 1 I didn't go super far, but like, I did see a lot of that. Uh, uh, the, yes, strong sound, strong art design, lots of strong, you know, um, strong overall art direction.
Um,

Speaker 1 and like what was coming off of this with the way it was depicting this fucking insane whatever setting. Um,

Speaker 1 then immediately going into like, there's a launcher, there's an air combo, there's a weapon switch. And I was like, oh, ooh, you've got all that style and you're doing a genre that I think is cool.

Speaker 1 I'm, I'm very, very interested. Also, I guess, like,

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know about the Alan Waite games as much, but with control, um,

Speaker 1 you know, you were, again, the way it was described was like, by the end of that, you're just a Jedi, right?

Speaker 1 But like, making a sequel where the whole thing, where the genre changes up aggressively like this, like, how do people feel about that? About it being less of a shooter and being more, like, of a

Speaker 1 stylish action. I feel

Speaker 1 very nervous.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 They have made

Speaker 1 Max Payne, Max Payne 1. Sorry, Max Payne, Gun 1, Max Pain, Gun 2, Alan Wake, Alwake 2,

Speaker 1 Alwake, American Wasteland, Control 1. That's six shooters.
Ba-bang.

Speaker 1 And they're really, really, really, really, really, really good at shooters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 How's...

Speaker 1 Oh, quantum break. I forgot about quantum break.
That's seven. Do you ever get any melee weapons that are like

Speaker 1 elaborate at all?

Speaker 1 No. Not really.
Okay. No.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So I'm like, so I'm like,

Speaker 1 I'm pulling my collar. Oh, I hope.
I hope. I hope.

Speaker 1 The other thing is that when I made a joke about it looking like DMC Devil May Cry 2, I actually really, really mean that.

Speaker 1 You have the eye for it. If you go back and look at that trailer again, you'll see like a blue scythe air move and like a red punching air combo.

Speaker 1 And it looks like it actually, and like the transforming environment, it actually, really does look very strongly inspired

Speaker 1 by DMC Devil May Cry. Well, I mean, this is something I think we've said in the past, but DMC Devil May Cry, for all the things it suffers from,

Speaker 1 a bold art style and isn't one of the flaws, right? It does some stuff that if it were not trying to be Devil May Cry, it would be like, oh shit, yeah, look at the city.

Speaker 1 Look at the way, you know, a lot of the direction of these scenes and a lot of the direction of the... We talk about

Speaker 1 the Fox area and all that stuff. Like,

Speaker 1 visually, it's doing shit that's cool.

Speaker 1 It's just by comparison to what I wanted,

Speaker 1 you're fucking miles away, you know? But I'm,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm just looking at this and going, like, as far as this trailer goes, you know, for what, for what you were showing off, like, I was really impressed and thought it would look super sick, and it got my attention.

Speaker 1 And also, part of that helps knowing that, you know, for years, you've been telling me about how fucking great the games this company makes are.

Speaker 1 It's dope as fuck. So I'm like, cool.
There's also a pedigree that has worked for things they've made that have involved guns i guess so far uh let's see let's see um

Speaker 1 i am so interested so if you play control 2 at the release sorry control resonant at the release i am so interested in either way that you play that game be it I'm just going to dive in or I should catch up.

Speaker 1 Either of those is fascinating to me in a wide variety of ways. Because

Speaker 1 if you're like, I want to catch up, I'll just tell you right now, not as much as you think,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 you would want to catch up really hard. So, my T's of Control won, my T's of, of course, well, Max Payne won too.
You know, I'm going to say like that. Goes back

Speaker 1 to fucking 192. Those games are great.

Speaker 1 But more so in the Alan Wake stuff. Like, because a lot of what what y'all have described has been narrative-based,

Speaker 1 and the whole

Speaker 1 and the writing and the elements of how

Speaker 1 the universe is wrapping together, it seems like the lore here is interesting enough that I'm like, yeah, I don't think I would just dive in cold. I think I would go back and try to

Speaker 1 catch up on what's going on, but not necessarily by like getting through the full games. I'm thinking more just like,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 checking out summaries of what happened and, you know, pulling a climbs, Drakengard style, on what, on what the previous games were about and what was connected.

Speaker 1 Because it seems like it's a cool story. If it was like fucking whatever, just jump in and, you know, you'll figure it out as you go.
And it's, it's dumb shit, then, then no.

Speaker 1 But it seems like it's cool. So

Speaker 1 I just know that like, I realistically, I'm not going to have the time to go catch up on all of those previous remedy games.

Speaker 1 But there's only one that actually really matters to Control Resonant, and that's Control. Right.
Okay. It's direct prequel.
And look, like,

Speaker 1 at the end of the day, if the interest were stronger with the previous games they made, I would have already done it. That's the reality of it.

Speaker 1 There's an invisible meter here, which is, yeah, you got to make me give a fuck enough to bother. And it needs to hit that point.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing something that looks cool here, so I want to to see what's going on. I have to like kind of wrestle with this.

Speaker 1 I remember Chris Wolfhart on social media a long time ago was like, when people ask, when people come to him and say, hey, I'm really interested in game 15 in this series.

Speaker 1 What should I go back and play to get ready for it? His response is the one you just told me.

Speaker 1 Because if you try and go back and do that, you will burn out immediately because you don't care about any of those games and you will never get to the thing you're interested in.

Speaker 1 And like that, now that I'm an adult, that has totally started to happen to me.

Speaker 1 I look at trails and I've tried, oh man, trails through daybreak or whatever the fuck looks cool, but I obviously have to go back and play the 19 prerequisite games in the Trails series before I play the new one so that I know what the fuck is going on.

Speaker 1 And then I get like six hours into Trails in in the Sky, and I go, ah, that's pretty good, and then don't touch it again for months.

Speaker 1 Somewhere out there, and I say this as somebody who, you know, regularly am like, yo, don't skip JoJo parts, that shit's great.

Speaker 1 Somewhere out there is somebody who's dying on the hill that you must play Zone of the Enders 1 in order to enjoy Zone of the Enders 2.

Speaker 1 Someone is out there fighting for that half an hour. Even Kojumbo

Speaker 1 believes that.

Speaker 1 That's why I put a little movie at the beginning of Zone of the Enders 2 that's like, here's what happened. Oh, I bet we can find one.
It's like, no, the movie doesn't include this feeling.

Speaker 1 It doesn't.

Speaker 1 Or go watch one of those Zoom. Zoe One's crazy because there's really little in Zoe One.
It's a really bare bones game.

Speaker 1 Dude, I watched one of those animes and I don't remember which one it was.

Speaker 1 I think I also did, and I don't remember a single detail. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Just right through. Okay, total Warhammer 40K.
This is the.

Speaker 1 So, hey, so when I, when that happened, I texted your friend and mine, Bricky, over at Bricky, and I asked him if his penis was okay, and he said no. Oh,

Speaker 1 okay. So, okay, but

Speaker 1 was this not super telegraphed?

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 this is one of those things. It feels kind of like you, yeah.

Speaker 1 They have had the Warhammer fantasy license for like a really long time, right? Like the total Warhammer thing has been going on for like eight years now.

Speaker 1 And like every time they're like, hey, are you going to do 40K? They go, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Seems like it'd be pretty hard. We don't know if we'd ever do it.

Speaker 1 And like every time new stuff would come out, you're just, everybody be staring at like, do you think they're using this as like a fucking test to do like 40k? I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 And the other thing is that 40k is broadly more popular than the fantasy one.

Speaker 1 And there's always been this worry that Games Workshop doesn't want 40K to be a massively popular video game strategy game because it would actually interfere with their toy. With the toy sales.

Speaker 1 So it was always like, ah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 But it's the most popular, but it's the most popular thing they own, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So this is the thing that, like,

Speaker 1 we, everybody wanted, and now they're going to do it. And now we've

Speaker 1 calmly segued into, oh, man, I hope Total Warhammer 40k is one of the good Total War games because that is like a coin flip. Oh, no.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Because I just, knowing that Total Warhammer existed and

Speaker 1 cowards didn't call it Total Warhammer because I guess branding is important.

Speaker 1 I saw the interview where they were asked that and they're like, I understand why you call it Total Warhammer. People in the office also

Speaker 1 call it Total Warhammer. But here and now, I am telling you the official title of the game is Total War Warhammer.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's one of those things where like from the outside, I'm like, oh, this is popular and this is one of those things. Therefore, the bigger name, they'd probably do that eventually.

Speaker 1 But I also remember a time when it was like, so World of StarCraft, any day now, right? Any day now.

Speaker 1 So, if it's one of those situations, then I get it.

Speaker 1 I would really like that game to be cool. I would really like that.
That'd be great.

Speaker 1 Do you think it was real when they zoomed in from the ground level to the space level?

Speaker 1 No, I don't think anything in that thing was real. Okay.

Speaker 1 Because it's like

Speaker 1 a Total War gameplay demo isn't real unless it runs runs like shit, dude. And they go, we're going to clean that up later.

Speaker 1 And it's just chugging, but they're like, look how many little dudes there are. Oh, you got to get the fucking,

Speaker 1 is it homeworld? Just fucking

Speaker 1 space chugging. And yeah, okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 Hey, Mega Man dual override. Mega Man's back from the dead.
Inafune's stank has finally come out of the couch.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they're long sending it 2027.

Speaker 1 Not even going to try for next year. Sure.

Speaker 1 Looks pretty simple.

Speaker 1 Looks pretty basic. He's jumping.
He's shooting. And

Speaker 1 there's a part of me that when I see this, and I'm like, I know

Speaker 1 they made the classics

Speaker 1 in retro style, going on with

Speaker 1 10-11 and so on. He's been dead for so long that you kind of understand the need to just bring back a simple Mega Man game and just make sure it does what people want it to do.
But

Speaker 1 there's that little bit at the end of the trailer where you see the little like,

Speaker 1 it opens up, you know? And then, of course, there's the recent secret level, like, shorts and stuff.

Speaker 1 And you're kind of like, I hope there's a, you know, there's something in here that's like new and kind of

Speaker 1 a fresh take on whatever it's going to be, while also reintroducing

Speaker 1 the blue bomber. Do you know what I want?

Speaker 1 I want the same take.

Speaker 1 I don't want a fresh take. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The same take as ever.

Speaker 1 I think the understanding of when you're coming back from the dead, you need to just re-establish what the fuck this is.

Speaker 1 So it's probably going to be just that.

Speaker 1 So I can't, I hope I'm attributing this correctly.

Speaker 1 I think I saw mom say this, but I'm not 100% sure, but it might be like the most cataclysmically pessimistic take I've ever seen about anything which is like Capcom has to put out a new Mega Man game because there aren't enough like the the 35 to 45 year old male demographic that buys mega man hoodies is starting to dry up

Speaker 1 because there hasn't been a game in so long and it's just like oh everyone damn it every one of those kids that was in the commercial for Mega Man anniversary collection from the fucking early aughts back in the day going Mega Man Mega Man.

Speaker 1 They all have mortgages now.

Speaker 1 Think of that trailer where they're showing kids way too young to play those super hard games. But with the GameCube collections came out, they're all fucking

Speaker 1 taking out their 30 to 40, possibly even 50 year mortgages.

Speaker 1 I,

Speaker 1 yeah, no,

Speaker 1 what I'm thinking too as well is like,

Speaker 1 you know, don't, don't, don't, don't fuck with it. Don't go too nuts with it.

Speaker 1 But something that would be something is something kind of like when Kirby 64 came out, for example, and it was like, yo, it's Kirby. It's fucking Kirby.

Speaker 1 You can use two powers together to make a

Speaker 1 third power. Yeah, you know, like,

Speaker 1 just make some great level designs, make some great music,

Speaker 1 and run, like one extra little depth bit on, like, the powers or whatever you're doing in the game.

Speaker 1 Something like that, you know?

Speaker 1 But basically just reestablish, run, jump, shoot, et cetera.

Speaker 1 Another thought I had, and I mentioned this while we were watching it, was like, I remember the me that specifically back in the day was like, what if Mega Man X is Mega Man 10?

Speaker 1 And I remember that. And the timeline of the old Mega Man games branches into the new ones because Mega Man had to kill Wiley and he didn't want to do do it.

Speaker 1 And this is, and X is, there's a branch to how we get from one to the other. And are we,

Speaker 1 and are we ever going to see it, you know? And then we moved way past that point. And I like,

Speaker 1 do I still kind of want that little branch game to exist though?

Speaker 1 You know, I'm like, I understand that that was the me, that was the young, edgier version of me that was super like, no, it's all got to be connected. And a part of me still kind of wants to see it.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie. It's in there.
I can accept a world where we go, X is X, Mega Man's Mega Man, zero, zero, etc., and so on. You know, triggers, trigger.
But, um,

Speaker 1 what if

Speaker 1 bloodborn demon death dark? Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 is dumb. What if, dude? What if Ronnie makes a bloodborn? Think about it.

Speaker 1 Do you remember that? that? Well, now with Night Rain.

Speaker 1 Who the fuck knows? None of that shit matters.

Speaker 1 Like, that shit does matter.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what fucking does matter.

Speaker 1 The most excited I got, I think, watching, like,

Speaker 1 watching the TJs in general, coming in pretty dead and tired, and, you know, overall

Speaker 1 trying to keep my optimism

Speaker 1 from crusting over.

Speaker 1 You show me a fucking Kotor 3 something,

Speaker 1 and I'm going to raise all my eyebrows up.

Speaker 1 Fate of the Old Republic.

Speaker 1 I just want the optimism.

Speaker 1 I just want it.

Speaker 1 Maybe, maybe this is going to be super sick, though.

Speaker 1 Because Kotor was sick.

Speaker 1 They didn't show anything. And they just today were like, like, Jason Schreier was like, yeah, you might not see this shit till 2030.
And then Casey Hudson Casey Hudson was like no

Speaker 1 you're gonna offered nothing it offered nothing like yeah no he said he said hey guys

Speaker 1 he said hey guys I'm getting old we're pretty I feel like we're gonna see it before 2030

Speaker 1 yeah yeah I don't know I don't know but I just for the optimism to not just fucking husk out the idea of a really cool KOTOR 3 is very exciting given how awesome KOTOR 1 and 2 were. End of thought.

Speaker 1 End of thought. That's it.
It's just that simple.

Speaker 1 I know that he only did one and then the Mass Effect games, but

Speaker 1 I'm just looking and going, man, fuck. I loved Kotor and I didn't think

Speaker 1 that was like Kotor 2 in particular was some of my favorite shit in Star Wars.

Speaker 1 I hope this is fucking awesome. You know what I would really like for Casey Hudson to come out and say?

Speaker 1 I would really, really like for Casey Hudson to come out and say, hey, we're working on Fotor.

Speaker 1 Fotor is going to be a game. Maybe if he does crazy well or whatever, we can make some afterwards.
But we are not writing or planning this as a trilogy. Right, right, right, right, right.

Speaker 1 Because speculation about Mass Effects writing caused Casey Hudson and the other guy, Mark Walt something Waters, to ruin Mass Effect 3 sending? To change it up to submerg expectations.

Speaker 1 So let's all just not speculate about this at all. Let's just...
Mac Walters, yeah, let's just all let them write what they, ooh, I didn't guess it. Ooh, it promised.
Ooh, it's a big secret.

Speaker 1 I could never figure it out.

Speaker 1 And yeah, if the name is what it implies here, you know, I don't know how far the Tor

Speaker 1 timeline goes into Old Republic time, you know, into the... I don't know if that even matters.
But I'm... Oh, no, wait, the Old Republic is actually

Speaker 1 way after, I think. Yeah, so that's the thing.

Speaker 1 My understanding is that you get the KOTOR games, and then you get the Old Republic, and then you get thousands of years, and then High republic starts right um

Speaker 1 so if this is named fate of the old republic then i think the assumption is going to be like this will be the end of the transition into

Speaker 1 whatever you know high republic

Speaker 1 stuff is going to be because i mean i can also see the interest in being like hey we created a new arc and we're filling it in with content we probably want to set the pieces in motion to show you what that's going to be um

Speaker 1 so yeah.

Speaker 1 It would be nice if this wasn't a trilogy or anything like that. Just like, no, just make one for one and

Speaker 1 let it be a

Speaker 1 solid game like the previous ones were unfettered by

Speaker 1 unburdened by what has come before.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 maybe, just maybe in its wake,

Speaker 1 a little floating ducky of Quantic Dream will get drowned and dropped to the bottom of the ocean. Oh, you forgot shit.
We still haven't heard zero-nothings about that Star Wars game, huh?

Speaker 1 It's just let the light of this blow quantic shit out of the fucking water. Well, I mean, it'll be easy to blow them out of the water if they never surface.

Speaker 1 Skeleton rotting at the bottom.

Speaker 1 Whatever happened to that? That's been an ass for like three years. We've seen zero, like nothing.
I want to say there have been

Speaker 1 the the most recent announcements have been hey it's not canceled announcements and we're hiring announcements not more than actual content and or

Speaker 1 anything tangible

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 but they promise it's happening though and you know what i mean shits it hey over here in montreal uh uh uh i should put some feelers out and and see what's and see what's

Speaker 1 see what stinks you know see if i could sniff around a little bit

Speaker 1 Anyway, there was a couple other things.

Speaker 1 Do you, I don't know if you felt if you were interested in Ontos at all, but Soma people, creepy stuff. What's that? Soma, creepy visuals, rat trap, brain.
Yeah, that look cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Proper, there's some, there's some horror stuff happening there. I gotta be honest, I was like, oh, it looks cool.
And then I was like, from people who made Soma. I'm like, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Like, that was what got my brain activated. Yeah.
Where I was like, I like Soma. Soma was really, really good.

Speaker 1 It's the best game they ever made. There were some creepy ass visuals in that trailer that were like, oh, yeah, you got some good brain horror going on here.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 I,

Speaker 1 what was the next one? Order of the Sinking Star.

Speaker 1 I'm curious to find out. That's the Jonathan Blow.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
See, yeah, I know. I know.
I don't have anywhere near the venom. I've, because I'm like, I liked Braid, and I never finished The Witness, but like.

Speaker 1 Well, it's easy to not have the Venom if you've never heard Jonathan Blow speak over the past five years, but if you have, you would be like, oh,

Speaker 1 I hope this game wasn't made with vaccines or seed oils.

Speaker 1 God damn it, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, I'm just going off of

Speaker 1 Braid.

Speaker 1 Make sure to keep the game away from your phone so the 5G doesn't make it okay

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 damn you can't you can't retroactively make soldier boy the protagonist man you can't i know right you can't do that that's not okay

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 but uh i'm curious to see what the what the twist or the bit's gonna be because obviously whatever you see with with the the front of the thing is not actually um the thing and then whatever he does too i'm i'm imagining there is a 10 years in the making long, you know, secret and or

Speaker 1 thought that's being explored with a very simple at first appearing game, but secretly you're learning

Speaker 1 some other shit.

Speaker 1 You know what I really like about guys like Phil Fish and

Speaker 1 Jonathan Blow? I really like that they pioneered this kind of like, look, you know, there's like a big secret.

Speaker 1 And the secret is, is that I've taken a pretty decent idea for a game and I've layered it onto a pretty mediocre idea for a game and when you find that mediocre idea you'll be so surprised that you won't notice that it's kind of mid I need I need a game industry where I need a game industry where there are

Speaker 1 pretentious creators trying to do shit and just throwing it out there and seeing what happens and seeing if it crosses the line. I need that.
That's an industry that I want to exist.

Speaker 1 I want people throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks. Just

Speaker 1 maybe not their opinions on

Speaker 1 vaccination, perhaps.

Speaker 1 Fucking Christ.

Speaker 1 And then I had to use the bathroom, so I ran out. But then I watched after the fact Bradley the Badger.

Speaker 1 Because I didn't that game looks really cool. Yeah, I didn't know.
I saw a badger mascot and I was like, like, okay, whatever. I'll fucking, you know,

Speaker 1 whatever this is. And then I came back and then people were like, actually, that was pretty interesting.
So I went back and I was like, oh, shit, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it actually does look pretty interesting. I like the idea of

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 just a parody platformer. Haven't had one of those in ages.
Fourth wall breaking, talking to the viewer,

Speaker 1 pulling out texture tests and switching genres, Badgerborn, Last of Us, all that shit. So yeah, parody,

Speaker 1 probably going to have tons of mechanics, you know, for just a second

Speaker 1 to make the bit and then switching it up.

Speaker 1 And then I don't know what that live action segment was meant to imply, but like, I was like, are you going to do a actual first-person realistic segment?

Speaker 1 And it's like, no, no, no, this is live action. That'd be cool.
And then it's like, are we going to become a furry simulator? Because that's new tech.

Speaker 1 That's a new world we haven't explored through the eyes of the mask. You know,

Speaker 1 if you're gonna become a badger in real life,

Speaker 1 we already

Speaker 1 want to be a badger in real life, Wally. Well, this is explored territory, you know.
And guess what? Doesn't give a shit to badger are gonna be a badger.

Speaker 1 If if we're jumping into real life here, there's a very clear framework for how to be an IRL badger.

Speaker 1 Um, let's see if they explore it.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 what the fuck was Stupid Never Dies?

Speaker 1 Like, stupid never dies. I saw that, and I was like, oh, is this lollipop chainsaw 2? Everybody thought that it has the aesthetics and it has the

Speaker 1 high school, the boyfriend, and girlfriend, the cheerleader bit, the bubblegum pop. And it's like, nah, this is from former Devil May Cry people and,

Speaker 1 yeah, Capcom staff. And it's just something else.
But here's a zombie boyfriend doing action game shit.

Speaker 1 So let's see what it is. I would like to see more of that game.
They didn't show actually a whole lot of it.

Speaker 1 I would like to see more. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I mean, I feel the way about it. I feel almost like seeing the control stuff where I'm just like, oh, cool.
That's the genre I like.

Speaker 1 This aesthetic is, you know, looking pretty cool. Let's see what's going on.

Speaker 1 What was the team name? Did we get a team name on that too for for this? I think we did. I'm looking at like a web page and I don't have any team name here either.
Yeah, because it just said,

Speaker 1 you know, former developer is GP Track50 Inc.

Speaker 1 Right. Okay.

Speaker 1 Who are making stupid never dies?

Speaker 1 Devil May Cry devs, Resident Evil devs, Dragon Dogma devs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Former Capcom staff all around.

Speaker 1 Then there was,

Speaker 1 what else was interesting?

Speaker 1 Orbitals looks fucking cool.

Speaker 1 That was the one that had the 80s anime aesthetic in 3D. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That looked really cool. Loved how well realized that was.
And they definitely seamlessly switched to like actual,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 animation, like 2D animation that was like a retro anime style and then cell shaded 3D animation that was low frame rate, but still kept the aesthetic. Oh, what a fucking awesome visual.

Speaker 1 So yeah, 3D platformer doing doing what my okay. So the first time I saw

Speaker 1 Oni, you know, or Shogo, like the old PC anime games,

Speaker 1 I, that's, this is what I thought I was looking at.

Speaker 1 you know or fear i mean fear effect even right years later like it gets closer but it's not quite exactly there. But this is as close as I've seen it.
This is really, really well done.

Speaker 1 Because it's almost got the same vibe that

Speaker 1 that Sonic game I played, Sonic Blast, Sonic Robo Blast 2,

Speaker 1 you know, where you're rotating the camera, but the 3D model is like only updating on the cardinal directions, you know? Because like 2D, it's like a sprite. It's great.

Speaker 1 All right. Then there was the Divinity trailer.

Speaker 1 Very cool, extraordinarily graphic. That trailer was fucked up.
I was like, for a non-gameplay thing,

Speaker 1 I was like paying attention to the narrative and how dark that was.

Speaker 1 I don't know anything about the setting of Divinity.

Speaker 1 There's lizard people.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 But skeletons.

Speaker 1 But like you're seeing this dude burning at the stake, you know, so to speak, and then you're like, oh, this is a fucked-up like society of like celebrating, you know, the torture of people and so on.

Speaker 1 And then you see the goop coming off of him, and you're like, oh, no, wait, I were they right? I think they're right to burn him, though.

Speaker 1 That was a really cool trailer that made everyone real excited. And I have a suspicion that

Speaker 1 Sven over at Larian wishes that that that was the only news we had about Larian this week.

Speaker 1 Well, perhaps the excitement for that trailer was a little too high, and perhaps we needed to cool the jets down a little bit by opening our mouths when we didn't even have to open them.

Speaker 1 We'll get to that in a minute. I guess so.
Let's finish up the roundup.

Speaker 1 Saros, aka

Speaker 1 aka Sun Returnal. Returnal to

Speaker 1 Returnal to the Sun.

Speaker 1 What if the Sun was evil?

Speaker 1 I really hope. So, like, Returnal is a great shooter.
It is a very bad roguelike.

Speaker 1 I would like this to be a similarly good shooter and a better roguelike.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That is my hope.

Speaker 1 Yep, that'll work.

Speaker 1 Also, you know,

Speaker 1 as people that make fun of terrible names for games,

Speaker 1 this is not at all in that category. But when Saros, I'm seeing a trailer for that at the same show that I'm seeing one for Ontos.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I want to say there was a third game that was kind of in that naming space.

Speaker 1 Saros.

Speaker 1 There was, I feel like there was a third thing in there. I kind of was like, which one was which again?

Speaker 1 So the longer that names go on, the less good names will get and that's how we get briden

Speaker 1 that's how we get little baby brighten oh okay i was like was that announced was brighten announced at the tga i'm making i'm making fun of the the the glut of stock names for the children okay so no the third game i was thinking of so there was ontos and then there was saros and then there was so

Speaker 1 okay so solasta actually already exists no i know it's a it's a sequel to an existing thing. Yes.
But not something that I knew. Extremely strange game because Selasta was not Baldur's Gate 3.

Speaker 1 Boy, did it look like not a DD game? Boy, it looks like not Baldur's Gate. And Selasta 2 is not Baldur's Gate 3, but also includes Devorah Wilde in it.

Speaker 1 So it's so not Baldur's Gate that like even the character faces look like they're from the same engine. It's really crazy.
That's what was that. That was, I was, was what I was impressed by.

Speaker 1 I'm like, no, wait, your actual faces look like they're coming out of it. Ben Star, also, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. Ben Starr will do anything for money.

Speaker 1 I recently saw a little interview with Ben Starr in which they're like, what is your long-term goal as an actor? And he's like, I want to be the spokesperson for Terry's chocolate oranges.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, yeah, Ben.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 I fucking want a

Speaker 1 Orange.

Speaker 1 So chatting with Gianni about being one of the voice actors that just yucks it up with their character and becomes the meme and endears the character even more than the source material does.

Speaker 1 He had a very astute observation, which is like, because I was pointing out how awesome that is and how Alex Lay saved Luke, how Ben Starr is absolutely crushing it in every role he's taking, and how Gianni's doing wonders with all of his memes and everything.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's, it's, we, I want that for everything. And then he's like, yeah, well, maybe

Speaker 1 not all the time should the developer, can the developer let any voice actor do what they want and have fun with it? That's true. You know, that's true.

Speaker 1 And he's like, you're a Devil May Cry fan, aren't you? I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 you know, and then you're like, yeah,

Speaker 1 okay, well, just,

Speaker 1 you know, can we have nice things sometimes, though?

Speaker 1 Can Can we be, can we, like, can we establish that they, you know, the bit will be solid and then take the limiters off and let the voice actors go?

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's a it's a dangerous game we play, and sometimes some devs are like, nah, you cannot speak as our characters officially.

Speaker 1 You get like, fuck off. You do what we tell you to, and that's it.
And it's like, yeah, okay, fair enough. Um,

Speaker 1 uh, so there was that. There's Lenny Kravitz for some reason.

Speaker 1 He's a famous person. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's in the Hitman game. Yep.
And it's like, move over. Where's your daughter? She's cool.

Speaker 1 She's cool. She was in Batman.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Oh, Zoe Kravitz.
She's great. Is that the catwoman? Yep.
I gotta say, I gotta say, Wooly, the phrase, move over, where's your daughter?

Speaker 1 Not great.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 someone

Speaker 1 will say that to you one day. Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy. See, but also, but also, Lenny Kravitz is like literally the walking fucking Giga Chad face.
Like, he actually has the Giga Chad face.

Speaker 1 And, um, yeah, he kind of does, yeah. And it's kind of ridiculous.
Anyway, um,

Speaker 1 hey,

Speaker 1 it was Leon. He is back.
RE9.

Speaker 1 This might be the least shocked I have ever been about anything to do with Resident Evil. And that is a lot of things I've been unshocked by.

Speaker 1 Well, isn't the real reveal him pulling the fucking chainsaw out?

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 Okay. Because he's taking it from a chainsaw man during the kill animation.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 he's got... Real reveal is if Sherry's his new contact on the phone.
Ah, aged up. Yeah.
Who knows?

Speaker 1 The little Dante stubble. It's good to see that Leon, despite being over 50 years old, has not suffered from Twink Death.
I

Speaker 1 am enjoying watching these pretty boy characters going unknown. You know, I like that.

Speaker 1 I want that on more of these characters over time as Capcom throws a little bit of fucking

Speaker 1 little stubble. I gotta say, there's like an absolutely wild amount of sexism in the Resident Evil for this purpose.
How old's Leon and Chris? I don't know, in their 50s or whatever.

Speaker 1 Get a new girl. Get a new girl for the character.

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, what you gotta do is you gotta bring Ada back and have her like Chun Lee with just brighter amounts of like little details on the makeup.

Speaker 1 It just gets a little stronger, but her face is pristine. You know, that's all.
Ada's looking as great as she always has.

Speaker 1 Do you know why that is? Do you remember that interview? No.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 in Resident Evil 6, Leong looks kind of bad and Ada looks like immaculate. Like not a single day

Speaker 1 has passed since Resident Evil 2. Nothing.

Speaker 1 And there was an interview in which they were asked, like, hey, so how come Ada looks like she hasn't age today?

Speaker 1 And the response from, I think it was the director, one of the producers, was like, we thought about making her look her age, but instead we decided to make her attractive.

Speaker 1 Okay, I was wondering, but yeah, no, that checks out.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 There was a discussion, and

Speaker 1 there was a discussion, and we decided actually instead of yeah

Speaker 1 fuck dude. That's that's so brutal.
I would rather that's so brutal some littly diddy dance around oh the bones the CG the 3D bones are too hard to animate

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 like he couldn't even just say she's aging really well listen listen listen all right uh as someone who like thinks that you could have some fucking sick older characters that are dope as hell, um, Ambessa, for example, is crushing it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, um,

Speaker 1 they said it with their full chest, and there's nothing I can do about that. I think, I think,

Speaker 1 and and like, so people who haven't beaten all four Resident Evil 6 campaigns wouldn't know this, because why would you? That game sucks. Um,

Speaker 1 Resident Evil 6's core storyline is about a guy simping over Ada Wong so hard he blows up up the earth.

Speaker 1 Like that is, and that, I'm serious. That is like actually not a joke really for Real Z, the plot.
So she needed to be pristine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also remember Jill got infected with the T-virus and then got mind control by Wesker, so she's not aging.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, okay. Mm-hmm.
Which is why Jill gets to come back and Claire and Rebecca don't.

Speaker 1 So just being Asian defeats the T-virus. Just

Speaker 1 straight up.

Speaker 1 Perfect condition.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I would like to see if they're going to show any other characters aged up at any point.

Speaker 1 Nah, it's going to be those two. They might show like

Speaker 1 you said on comms, right? On comms. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 All right. What else was there? Oh, yeah.
Well, I mean, there was, of course, the Expedition 33 stuff and the Swithree. The Sweet.
The Swithreep.

Speaker 1 I appreciate picking the whole fucking gang up, putting them all in the baguette outfit and taking over

Speaker 1 the two rows of that audience. Very sweet.
Awesome. Very, very cool.

Speaker 1 It was nice to see Laurien Testog on stage and getting to just from SoundCloud to here, you know?

Speaker 1 Enjoy it. It's really interesting to see the level of confidence from Laurien on stage playing his guitar compared to the level of confidence of him reading his speech.

Speaker 1 It was absolutely fascinating to see him jamming out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 In your element. Reading his speech, like clearly terrified of public speaking.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
No, it was charming.

Speaker 1 You know, he was just like, he's in his element when he's got the instrument in his hands.

Speaker 1 Pragmata, again, yeah, you can demo out April 24th. It's good.
It's a good demo.

Speaker 1 When you take the demo, it actually unlocks new features in the demo to be like, oh, yeah, go through it again once or twice. Nice.

Speaker 1 How long was it?

Speaker 1 20 minutes tops.

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh.
And then

Speaker 1 my second run was eight minutes. Oh, like a demo demo.
Yeah, no, it's a demo.

Speaker 1 Okay. I guess we've gotten spoiled on a couple of like

Speaker 1 chunk of the game previews. Yeah, no, no.
That's not, that can't be the standard.

Speaker 1 No, but you really get a feel for if you're going to spend the money or not, you know.

Speaker 1 Oh, I did. Like, I mean, the core gameplay is solid.

Speaker 1 And, and, you know,

Speaker 1 and then there was like Dragon's Dogma, where it was like, go fucking play a bunch of that shit, you know?

Speaker 1 Keep your save even.

Speaker 1 It's the best part of the game.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 me spreading disease to your save file is the best part of the game. Yeah, no, that is.
That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 And then we got to see the new Warframe trailer with Warner fucking Herzog.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm a big fan of

Speaker 1 Blank.

Speaker 1 Seeing a trailer or something, and you just go, is that fucking blank? Like, is there just a weird pic?

Speaker 1 I cannot understand for the life of me why the Tenno are not excited for the inauguration of Barack Obama.

Speaker 1 Well, that's that's a pretty solid Werner Horzog impression.

Speaker 1 That was way better than I thought was going to come out of your mouth. It's why are you here, sir? What is going on? How did they get you?

Speaker 1 You should reach out to Reb and see if you can do some pickup lines for werner like if in case he can't sure thing yeah

Speaker 1 the most depressing fucking war frames i've ever seen in my life

Speaker 1 way better than i thought

Speaker 1 what the fuck

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 and then they showed off some more soul frame

Speaker 1 oh i actually missed that because i was peeing but that's fine it was the founders teaser um oh they're we're we're all whoa, I missed okay, we're doing that now.

Speaker 1 I don't know, I don't know what it means.

Speaker 1 So, founders is what you get for you know, these types of games in which they'll be like, hey, do you, this is a free-to-play game, but do you want to buy it so that you get something that no one will ever be able to get?

Speaker 1 But you can't. Oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 Truly a founder of yes, yes, early adopters. So, like, founders people in uh for Warframe got access to Excalibur Prime, which was a the

Speaker 1 poster boy Scott 10. Yeah, that's the fucking box.
Yeah, yeah, except you can't get Excalibur Prime ever, ever. No one can get Excalibur Prime.

Speaker 1 And there's no

Speaker 1 reopening that, that, that crypt.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 what they did is like six, seven years later, they released Excalibur Umbra,

Speaker 1 which was not Excalibur prime. Right, right, right, right.
Because you can't take away the benefit of the people who did show up for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to get it in there. Yeah, you got to get the hand.
You got to do it. Yep.
Let them know.

Speaker 1 I saw the most dire 6-7 of all.

Speaker 1 I saw a lady asking her toddler what Jesus was doing, and it was a photo of Jesus like this.

Speaker 1 And the baby goes, Jesus is doing 6-7. And I'm like, this is the best, actually.

Speaker 1 Like, I didn't get it. I didn't get it at all.
And then I saw that and I'm like, this is the funniest shit ever.

Speaker 1 Full circle. All right.
All right, culture. All right, humanity.
We're going to be okay.

Speaker 1 We're going to make it. We're doing good.

Speaker 1 So does this mean then that it's like no matter how this game actually turns out,

Speaker 1 you gotta fucking get in there on the founder shit in case it's super good and you have the extreme FOMO later when you're never gonna get a shot at it?

Speaker 1 And it's extra smart because right at the beginning of these games is by far the worst time to get in.

Speaker 1 Like the best time to get in is like 18 months. Oh, there's no exclusives in Soul Frame Founders? Am I just completely going off of the Warframe?

Speaker 1 Oh, because I was going to say the reward for having faith in the unfinished product is

Speaker 1 you get access to that exclusive shit

Speaker 1 you trust us

Speaker 1 you trusted us when no one else did

Speaker 1 oh yeah this access to founder merch store

Speaker 1 weird

Speaker 1 Very strange okay

Speaker 1 now again these are everything that they make is free and thus relies on

Speaker 1 these types of purchases, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, okay. Absolutely.
Okay, so, you know, that changes the framing a little bit. Like,

Speaker 1 you're not coming in full price off the rip and looking for your content. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would not suggest anyone try that. I would suggest people just download Soul Frame and play it and see if they like it.

Speaker 1 That's my advice.

Speaker 1 Sounds like someone that doesn't have Excalibur Prime.

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 I don't, man.

Speaker 1 Sounds like fucking.

Speaker 1 Sounds like bitch fucking. Yeah, guess what? Excalibur Prime isn't even that good anymore.
Excalibur Umbra, objectively better.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 And also, fuck that shit. It's all about Inaros.

Speaker 1 Can you

Speaker 1 glamour in it?

Speaker 1 Bro. Oh, you mean like make you look like a different frame?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No, because, yeah. It's part of the whole point, right? Is like get the frame and do the thing.
So it trivializes it too much, I imagine. Okay.

Speaker 1 Then last little bits, Invincible versus revealed fucking an avatar. Ambessa.

Speaker 1 No, revealed Korra.

Speaker 1 You know, like

Speaker 1 I, like, saw something mean about that game when that character got unveiled. What?

Speaker 1 And the mean thing that I said is that I think you might have chosen the wrong franchise to make your fighting game license out of if you have had to resort to making original characters before the game is even out.

Speaker 1 So, Arxis disagrees, but Arxis usually does an OC that blends in nicely, fits the world, and complements things.

Speaker 1 Whereas Elemental over here is coming in as the character that probably has the most unique kit because she's not a flying brick. She's got

Speaker 1 element bounding, essentially, and they need something like that because they're desperate for power diversity.

Speaker 1 I don't blame, you know, I guess Amazon Prime or whoever, I guess they're holding the Invincible license.

Speaker 1 Like, I get the idea of wanting to do something Invincible related like this, but yeah, maybe the fighting game wasn't it, man. You know, maybe, maybe the answer was dispatch, you know?

Speaker 1 Maybe, maybe it really was.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 but yeah, look, we'll wait for the dispatch is pretty good, man. It's fucking good.
Uh, look, let's wait for the

Speaker 1 and look, you already had Aaron Paul lined up, you know? Dude, I can't, I can't wait for like the top team to be like three Viltramites.

Speaker 1 Like, like,

Speaker 1 hey, do you know what? Hey,

Speaker 1 what's the top-tier team? And is it 3v3 or 2v2? It's 3v3.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. It's going to be Mark Invincible, Omni Man, and the old bitch with the knife hair.

Speaker 1 And that's it. That's going to be top eight and fucking whatever.
Nah, I'm going to say it's going to be Angstrom, Levi,

Speaker 1 and Tubi,

Speaker 1 and 9S.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 That's good. That's going to be the top tier team.
Man, that's actually super good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And as for why they showed up, I just explained it in the team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. I don't get it.
But okay. Right?

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 He opens portals. Okay.
He's a portal guy? He's a portal guy. Oh, okay.
That's cool. Is that the guy who looks like Yacoub? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. It's so weird that there's a guy that looks like Yacoub, man.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 hey.

Speaker 1 Looks like Marvel Rivals is pulling out the stops and going for all the faves. So you're hitting Gambit, Rogue, and going straight to Deadpool.
Great. Yep.

Speaker 1 I wish that game's spell had not been broken for me.

Speaker 1 I really do. That game's spell was smashed to bits.
By

Speaker 1 I didn't finish one of the fucking seasonal Chinese battle passes, and I went, oh, I can't get everything now. I'm done.

Speaker 1 And I deleted it and have yet to boot it ever again.

Speaker 1 Sorry, just

Speaker 1 there's just there's a lot lot of there's a lot of

Speaker 1 invincible nation of Islam memes.

Speaker 1 Oh, are there? Oh, okay. So it's so it's not, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyway.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so so anyway, no.

Speaker 1 The the yeah,

Speaker 1 you, you, what, what, what broke the spell? Sorry?

Speaker 1 I missed out on some costume from the Chinese New Year of the United States. And that was it.
And then I'm like, oh, I can't get everything. So it's ruined.

Speaker 1 But what if, but they just announced they're bringing some of them back? Like, if you missed

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Vampire Hunter Wolverine, you can go get it. And like, a couple of other things are cycling back in now.
Can I get all of them forever?

Speaker 1 I think they're doing a bunch of them for like Christmas season. Yeah, maybe.
I don't know. The other thing is that I actually really disappoint a pat problem.
Like that, that is not...

Speaker 1 I I know I'm not the only person who feels that way. This one is priorly a pat problem.

Speaker 1 I want to play Marvel Rivals on my PC with a controller, but I don't want to have to deal with mouse and keyboard players whooping my fucking ass.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 like I should actually just be playing it on console while my consoles are in the office.

Speaker 1 So there's, I've, when I was playing a bunch of it, I would remember watching, there's tutorials on like getting good enough at movement to like with a controller to really compete and be solid.

Speaker 1 and you know like things about how to use cursor tracing and aim and all that stuff um but it takes effort it takes time you got to put work in um beyond just like inherent uh twin stick aiming you know but um the yeah but i think uh um no they're doing a round of bringing back old costumes now and bringing out deadpool and stuff and and like yeah to be fair it's like it's season six right like this is like this is something where it's like um the game the game's been around for a minute now when you know they're they're um

Speaker 1 still doing pretty solid cosmetics across the board. Oh, absolutely.
I'm looking at a I'm not daredevil Halloween costume. Sorry, Christmas costume for Daredevil, which is awesome.

Speaker 1 So yeah,

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 the fact that they're just pulling out all the stops and bringing out the big faves at this point makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 I know they'd never get Ryan to actually voice Deadpool in this type of situation, but you know, he does a good job of it, so it would have been fun, but eh,

Speaker 1 it's fine. Actually, let's take our break.

Speaker 1 All right, BRB.

Speaker 1 We got half giggles, but not full-on laughs.

Speaker 1 We're getting half giggles. That's as far as we can go right now.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's a milestone.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So, you know, as soon as you get anything like it, I have, I have, it's, it's, I know Punch Mom's working hard to try to get a full one going, but

Speaker 1 it's work.

Speaker 1 You got to hit those mines to see if you can get a full one.

Speaker 1 Why are you confused? You look perturbed.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? I'm talking about my daughter. Okay, because we were segueing when we left from then we got a lady on hat on stage and then we took a break.

Speaker 1 And so now you go, we got half giggles. And I'm like, what did the lady giggle about at that time?

Speaker 1 I went down

Speaker 1 in the bathroom break. I went downstairs and I smelled some baby.

Speaker 1 And in the process, the update is that

Speaker 1 we're getting close to a full giggle, but we don't have full giggles yet. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 So, but I did, when I was looking up milestones, see that like getting the beginnings of a giggle is in and of itself a milestone. Oh, yeah, dude.
So you got to be careful with that milestone stuff.

Speaker 1 You got to be really, really, really, really, really careful with that milestone stuff because they're all approximate.

Speaker 1 It's not a checklist. Your kid could be way ahead on this one and way behind on this one.
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Speaker 1 It just means they've decided to focus on one thing or another. It's not a checklist, but the CDC put out an app that is a literal checklist

Speaker 1 that you actually check off box by box.

Speaker 1 Of course, my kid is like way ahead on all of his milestones. Of course.
Because he's a genius. Clearly.

Speaker 1 But like I'm trying not to make other parents of other babies feel as bad because not all their children can be a genius like our children.

Speaker 1 No, no, that's that's it's important to keep that in mind, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, you know, you're looking at like that six-year-old that's about to submit their doctorate and you're just like,

Speaker 1 took you long enough.

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Speaker 1 so heads up before we keep going by the way if you want to hang out with me and paige tonight that's on the 16th of december and watch the first episode of the the season two of the fallout we're gonna watch it We put a little timer in the corner so y'all can see the

Speaker 1 Capcom tech. Because you're live watch.
Yeah. What's that? We're going to do the Capcom tech, the Street Fighter Live, Street Fighter League.
Yeah, yeah, just this, just this camp.

Speaker 1 Just me and Paige here and a little timer. And the timer.
You can sync it up. It's good tech.
It's good tech. Okay.
So you can see our eyes go googly moogly when DeGhoul takes his dick out.

Speaker 1 There you go. It looks all weird.
Okay, so to that extent, you know, we're going to move on over here.

Speaker 1 That is pretty much,

Speaker 1 as we're arriving to the end of of the show, there's a couple announcements left.

Speaker 1 I said a lady with a top hat showed up and just pulled the brakes on this parade. And I have to say, this is, I think,

Speaker 1 the single funniest promotional tweet for a new character I've ever seen. Oh, yeah.
It's really funny. It's the best.
Caitlin. So you're talking about Caitlin Kieran or whatever her fucking name is.

Speaker 1 Caitlin, the sniper top hat lady,

Speaker 1 Vise girlfriend

Speaker 1 from the league has, to no one's surprise, been confirmed to be the next character in 2xKO.

Speaker 1 And immediately after announcing this and the console release of 2XKO was the tweet going, hey guys, we know,

Speaker 1 you know, and this is the last arcane character for now.

Speaker 1 That feels like mandated

Speaker 1 by it.

Speaker 1 It has to be half arcane. So I'm going to put that on the team.

Speaker 1 Having gotten a chance to chat with a few of those folks and,

Speaker 1 you know, gotten the vibe for the situation, I think the team straight up knows the deal and is like, okay, here we go. This was always the plan.
We know.

Speaker 1 And Uncalkable pretty much confirmed it in a little video today that this is always the plan. But

Speaker 1 Caitlin was up next. And here she is.
Now let's just get past it. It's kind of like when they announced the name, the Nintendo Wii.

Speaker 1 And then like, I think it was like Perrin Kaplan who came out and was like, now get it all out of your system. We know it's super funny, but get used to it.

Speaker 1 You know, it would help get us out of our system if they showed what the character looked like and they did cool things because now we're sitting in the so I hate Caitlin. I hate Caitlin in league.

Speaker 1 I don't like Caitlin in arcane.

Speaker 1 I so like I don't like

Speaker 1 Caitlin Kieroman. I don't, I hate Caitlin simply based on her arcane

Speaker 1 depiction. I have no idea what her league representation is like.

Speaker 1 But with no charm,

Speaker 1 okay?

Speaker 1 So, when I'm sitting there, I'm literally sitting there going,

Speaker 1 there's like 300 fucking characters.

Speaker 1 I'm like, literally any character but Caitlin. And then, oh, it's Caitlin.
I'm like, oh, I'm so depressed.

Speaker 1 And, but, but um and even they should show us how she plays because this is the third trap slash zoner long range character in a roster of 12.

Speaker 1 that is three dollsims in the world warriors so that is too many so they um

Speaker 1 yeah the the the the video today said something to the effect of like um

Speaker 1 you know get your headshots and and you'll be you'll be excited to see how she learns how to play or so and i i i maybe i was reading a post or maybe he said something i'm i might be misremembering but like i thought i saw something that implied she'd play different from what we've already established you know knowing i would fucking hope so so what i will say is that again and this is from just chatting with them in person they were describing like

Speaker 1 the uh

Speaker 1 minimizing overlap you know is

Speaker 1 a priority that they have for um some of these characters and what's what's going forward.

Speaker 1 So, you can expect if you're seeing something like this, I imagine there's going to be a system she has that's pretty different from

Speaker 1 Jinx and Timo. I wouldn't be surprised.
Like, so I don't know what her kit is, though, in league. You want to know what her kit is? But is it bullets? Is it reloading?

Speaker 1 Her kit is shoot a gun,

Speaker 1 throw down a trap,

Speaker 1 throw down a net, and shoot a gun.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 you know the Jinx traps on the ground?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like that. Like that.
You know, shoot a gun, you know, like Timo and Jinx? Like that.

Speaker 1 Again, maybe we'll get a cursor like Happy Chaos or Alfeldt, you know?

Speaker 1 I just, she's so boring. She has no juice.
She's so boring, dude. It's crazy.
and i thought and i and here's the thing

Speaker 1 but like i already didn't like her just as a character moving through the show and i didn't even know about the top hat like like it's so wild like everything is just way worse going to the source material now because i'm like oh you are destined to be garbage

Speaker 1 just such an uninteresting supercom like In Arcane, like the arcane look for like Echo and Jinx and

Speaker 1 Vi is pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
But their defaults are cool too. Like Caitlin's regular look, god-awful.
God-awful.

Speaker 1 When they put her in arcane, they took away her most recognizable thing, which was her big, stupid top hat, and replaced it with a beret and just massively improved the character.

Speaker 1 the reason why Caitlin is going to be a fighter in 2xKO is

Speaker 1 to increase sales of a mandatory costume.

Speaker 1 You got to have the couple in there as a team as well. You can have the sister.
You fucking dump

Speaker 1 shit. Like, I'm like,

Speaker 1 as we're looking at this, like, please, no more arcane characters energy.

Speaker 1 I said it before, but I'm like, me aside,

Speaker 1 I think if you had to pull from that well, Ambessa would go over

Speaker 1 infinitely better.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no,

Speaker 1 no. Ambessa is the actual worst pet.
Because she's too new.

Speaker 1 Because she's too new. Because she's too new.
She skips the line.

Speaker 1 She skips the line. Yeah.
Okay. No, no, no.
Not because she's new. She is from Arcane.
She did not exist in League of Legends until Arcane came out.

Speaker 1 I think the idea, okay, so then is the idea, but like the fact that you have, it's like, you're going to get a character from the big franchise franchise that everyone is watching on Netflix because shut the fuck up too bad.

Speaker 1 Yes, okay, right. We're shoving it down your throat.

Speaker 1 With all remaining characters, we're shoving it down your throat.

Speaker 1 Jace is boring. Jace is just boring.
Heimer Dinger would be a nightmare in a fighting game. And if they put Victor in, nobody wants Arcane Victor, and nobody wants post-Arcane rework Victor.

Speaker 1 They want old robot Victor.

Speaker 1 League.

Speaker 1 um was was his hammer shit interesting

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 jace is boring yeah

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 uh i i there's no there's not much win in here you know um

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 i i just there the but the fact that they're immediately heading it off at the pass and going we know we know we know we know we know

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 i think someone pointed out that like in like he said, like, hey, not many announcements to this, but if you're going to be sleuthing, you know, maybe you can pull your magnifying glass out.

Speaker 1 But, like, behind Unconquerable in the video, there's two

Speaker 1 Lux statue. There's a Lux statue and a little like.
Do you know why there's a Lux statue? Because she's the most popular girl in the league. Okay.
So.

Speaker 1 Like, that doesn't mean much.

Speaker 1 It's like going into the Capcom offices and going, did you know there's a Chun Li statue over there?

Speaker 1 Did that mean that Chun Li is going to be the Street Fighter 6? Also, based on on the leak list, we already heard, you know. Yeah, but I could have told you Lux would be in 2xKO within the first year.

Speaker 1 Like, she's going to be.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's the order of operations is all we're missing. You know, you know what would be great? If

Speaker 1 Lux was in the game and her brother Garen came in during her super and you should never, ever have to worry about Garen ever arriving ever.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, okay. So who's going to be the May that has the jellyfish pirates at the end where you just get like 30 league characters deconfirmed immediately?

Speaker 1 All the losers, right? Just can we get one screen deconfirmation of everybody with a taunt?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's gotta be someone. There's gotta be someone, you know?

Speaker 1 That would be who can is anyone can like

Speaker 1 portals or you know, just ghosts of people, just a proper deconfirmer you know your your your um your ERMAC

Speaker 1 that would be great that would be great so here's the thing even before the leak list it's good to see that like people just inherently know in their stomach who's gonna be in this game but like even before the leak list I could have told you these fucking people would be here and I would have been miserable

Speaker 1 but could you imagine like a character that like let's say I don't know someone that could be possessed by the spirits of of others or something.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the mechanic is, but someone who's like, as soon as you see one of their moves show up on this character, you're like, ah!

Speaker 1 No, you know what? Deconfirmed my fave.

Speaker 1 If they wanted to do that, what they would do is they would have

Speaker 1 Viego, the ruined king, come out, and he would have the ability to summon other characters from the sunken isles to attack.

Speaker 1 So Viego would, like, have a hook move, but instead it would be Thresh that would come out. And then or they'd have a charge move, but it would be Hecarim that comes out.
And then no Thresh for

Speaker 1 projectile, and Callista would shoot the projectile.

Speaker 1 And I hope that doesn't happen because all those characters are awesome enough to be in the fucking game by themselves. I mean, I think Thresh, we pretty much fucking like everybody's.
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 Thresh is one of the boys.

Speaker 1 Like, he's one of the world warriors in this fucking thing. I saw, I heard a grunt audiophile.

Speaker 1 I heard a grunt.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 and then that wouldn't be Thresh. Thresh can talk.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, there's that. There was a snack sound, and then there was

Speaker 1 the riven lady with the breakup sword, you know? Yeah, she's going to be in.

Speaker 1 The rest of the year is going to be Akali, Thresh, Riven.

Speaker 1 The only thing worse.

Speaker 1 The only thing worse than announcing Caitlin

Speaker 1 right now is announcing Caitlin and then her being really good.

Speaker 1 That would be worse. She will be worse.
Can you imagine that shit? Now you're new and you're dominating and you're like, I'm getting beat by this bullshit.

Speaker 1 I think it would be in, I'm so serious.

Speaker 1 Unlike usually, where I like, you know, if new fighting game characters have to be like a certain level of strength, I think they need to take real steps because a game in which you're running up against, instead of Echo Yasuo, it's Jinx Caitlin.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Zone.
Tino Caitlin. Get zoned forever.
Oh my God, that sounds miserable. Die in the zone.
You will die on the other side of the map on the corner.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, consoles coming as well. January 2026.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 from the makers of Titanfall. I'm going to say the word Titanfall a couple more times.
Titanfall. And Apex Legends.

Speaker 1 Comes fucking horseback hero shooter. Now, what's it called, Woolly?

Speaker 1 High Guard.

Speaker 1 High Guard. Do you mean Overwatch? Horsefall.

Speaker 1 Do you mean... Wait, do you mean like high, like, over, and guard, like, watch? Or do you mean, like.

Speaker 1 Well, now, hold on a minute. Is that a skill in XCOM? Or

Speaker 1 no, that Overwatch is a skill in XCOM. Oh, okay.
Well,

Speaker 1 hi, guard.

Speaker 1 Listen, listen, listen. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Horseback first person.

Speaker 1 All right, what's going on? Don't see that too often. You're going to make that a gameplay mechanic or whatever? Sure.

Speaker 1 And then the guns come out, and you're like,

Speaker 1 it's the former response, like, this is what they do. But did you, did you feel that thing where you're like,

Speaker 1 what if there were no guns in this game? So you know what I felt? You know what I felt? I felt like

Speaker 1 I'm watching somebody, I know it's a food analogy, but bear with me.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I feel like I'm watching somebody make a nice big plate of mac and cheese, and I go, man, I could really go for a plate of mac and cheese.

Speaker 1 And they go, what if, hey, you guys like chocolate, right? And they just jam a chocolate bar into it.

Speaker 1 It feels like every element was chosen separately as a cool thing and then jammed together without any thought at all as to whether or not people who like fancy fantasy horsey riding like techno guns

Speaker 1 and frenetic action like not wall running

Speaker 1 or hero shooters like

Speaker 1 super fast titan fall like if i

Speaker 1 if i were to tell you that x apex and Titanfall devs left to do their own thing,

Speaker 1 and then you were to look at the timeline of Dickery on that franchise, would you not assume that they would literally just go do their version with blackjacket hookers and go, fuck this, we're doing it ourselves and doing what people have wanted?

Speaker 1 The final version of that announcement is some

Speaker 1 ex Titanfall and Apex Legends people have decided that they want to make Valorant

Speaker 1 with horsies.

Speaker 1 Like, you know

Speaker 1 how strung along and fucking dick-teased and bullshitted we've been for so long now.

Speaker 1 And then you leave and you get together and you announce nothing that is anything that that fad group was looking for. Straight in on a studio name and be like, we've made games like this before.

Speaker 1 It should look like the games you've made before.

Speaker 1 I, yeah, so um,

Speaker 1 I forget again, and I'm gonna keep forgetting, but what was what was that FPS where you shot unicorns and fantasy creatures coming out of the portal or whatever

Speaker 1 legendary?

Speaker 1 That sounds that you test that, no, I didn't test it, but that could be it.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 that could be it,

Speaker 1 Legendary?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yep, the griffin. Yep, it's a griffin.
I think you did test that. No, no, I didn't.
I didn't. But yes, there's a griffin and a dude shooting the griffon with the gun.

Speaker 1 And some people are going, is that a hallucination? No, you forgot. But I remember.

Speaker 1 Because I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 guns and fantasy. Right.
Are you thinking of Immortals of Avium? No, but that's another one.

Speaker 1 That is another one. This game just straight up cratered on Impact.
I don't know if you saw that, but it just died instantly.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking of the one that was from fucking 2008. Yes, Legendary.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that game's bad. So that's the first time

Speaker 1 we tried this out.

Speaker 1 Anyway. You know what would have been a way more interesting version of this?

Speaker 1 If it was just sci-fi and also fantasy, if characters just were split fully down the middle instead of them being integrated.

Speaker 1 That takes a bold vision

Speaker 1 that takes yes yes and that takes a bold vision uh but here

Speaker 1 instead of a bold vision we have high guard

Speaker 1 so okay

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 cool

Speaker 1 also while watching it i was kind of like so are we gonna see the

Speaker 1 is the circle gonna start closing are we pushing the payload no man that's an old-timey first person shooter

Speaker 1 You shoot guns on the other team. Well, I mean, there was a big boss-like thing that popped out of a door at some point.
Oh, yeah, it'll be BPVPVE.

Speaker 1 You know, there's stuff happening there. Like Titanfall, yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyway, just, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, and to close the show with it, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 and then there was Ace Combat 8.

Speaker 1 Yay!

Speaker 1 Yay!

Speaker 1 It's so sincere. That's it.

Speaker 1 It's so sincere. So, Bricky asked me, Hey, what's your favorite trailer of the whole thing? And I'm like, Ace Combat, no question.
He's like, Isn't that just like Metal Gear with Planes?

Speaker 1 And then I sent him the intro to Ace Combat 7, where does the color of the sky mean anything to you? It does to me a hell of a lot. And he's like, I did not expect you.

Speaker 1 What, what, what I got to play Ace Combat? Let's go.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 my burning question was:

Speaker 1 for the amount of fucking hype I get for the music from this series, I'm like, I need to know the name. There has to be somebody I can glaze up here.

Speaker 1 His name is Keiki Kobayashi. Oh, right.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You mean the name of the composer? The composer. And he's the ace combat musicman.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 this is the name we have to thank for fucking history.

Speaker 1 Kicks ass, dude. So good.

Speaker 1 Everyone should play his combat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't, like, it's whatever it is, it's like,

Speaker 1 I feel like the music I've heard from that franchise is easy top 10, all video game music I've ever heard. Easy.
Easy top 10.

Speaker 1 And yeah, there you go. That's our roundup.
All right. So

Speaker 1 fucking

Speaker 1 AI bullet point roundtable bullshit here.

Speaker 1 All right. You want me to just go for it? Because I got it all.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 hit the fucking notes. All right.
So

Speaker 1 Sven Vicky or Swen Sven Vicky over at Larian does a bunch of interviews today, or he probably did them a couple of days ago,

Speaker 1 in which talks about Divinity and how it'll be turn-based and the usual fluff piece. And then at some point, just goes, goes, oh yeah, we're using AI a bunch for concept art

Speaker 1 and stuff like that. But we're definitely going to always employ real humans and there's not going to be any AI stuff in front of it.

Speaker 1 We're just using AI to workshop ideas and use as the basis for concept art for our game, to which people then immediately point out.

Speaker 1 If concept art is being made by fucking AI, doesn't that mean you're using that as the bait? Doesn't that mean those designs? To which I was talking to Paige.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, I can't wait for the next interview that Sven does, in which he

Speaker 1 gets really mad that everyone won't stop talking about the AI use and won't stop, won't glaze his game or his announcement. And he gets mad that all anyone's talking about is the AI use.

Speaker 1 So I thought that was going to be in a couple of months. Apparently, it was going to be 90 minutes later after the Bloomberg article went out.
Correct.

Speaker 1 At which point he then clarifies, no, no, no, no, no. Guys, the concept artists are obviously drawing all the concept art.
We're just using AI for PowerPoints and for reference material.

Speaker 1 So like, and this is my paraphrase. So like instead of Googling something, the concept artists are using AI to do reference art.

Speaker 1 And yeah, there was some pushback internally, but I'm pretty sure everyone's on board with it now. Now that sentence, that's a quote.

Speaker 1 I screwed it up, but like the sentence of, yeah, there's some back and forth, there's some pushback, but I'm pretty sure everyone's more or less okay with it From the CEO, definitely sounds like a man who told the team that they were okay with it

Speaker 1 and is super annoyed that this is the only thing anyone is talking about today.

Speaker 1 And at that point, we have very, it was Cromwell, the PR man for Larian,

Speaker 1 come out and basically just do a shit ton of damage control about how they examined their workflow and they told everyone they were going to do this and how

Speaker 1 AI just speeds it up and all this shit. But we're barely using AI and it doesn't go any faster, but also we're using it for this, this, and it's fine.
To which point people were able to find

Speaker 1 in like two seconds, old Cromwell tweets of him making fun of AI users and saying, hey, the worst person in the world comes up to you and goes, this is how I can improve this with AI.

Speaker 1 And my takeaway is not that you're a lying asshole because you're a PR person. That's literally your job.
That's all you do all day.

Speaker 1 I am offended that you didn't have the foresight to just type the word into your posts and search to see if someone could so readily mock you with your own opinion in like a minute.

Speaker 1 Come on!

Speaker 1 Get good!

Speaker 1 That's your job!

Speaker 1 Your job is to lie!

Speaker 1 Lie better.

Speaker 1 Like, it's so offensive to be lied to bad. I hate it.
You're right.

Speaker 1 You need a tight lie job.

Speaker 1 I hate it. You need a tight lie job.
I hate it.

Speaker 1 You think I'm stupid? You think I can't type a word into the internet?

Speaker 1 You know, there's always

Speaker 1 the fucking chaser that comes after this type of thing. And I mean, in this case, I saw something to the effect of people that were ex-Larian employees going, yeah, did

Speaker 1 they hated that, not a fan of that, didn't enjoy that.

Speaker 1 Quit when they started using AI. So I suppose the, so I guess the idea of the team being on board with it is conditional to them.

Speaker 1 And so, okay, so

Speaker 1 bullet points. We've got staff that are saying that they literally quit when they started using AI.
Then we have people explain that Larian doesn't believe in work from home.

Speaker 1 So if you want to work at the studio, you have to move to Belgium, which means if you lose your job at Larium, you will have to immigrate from the country if you're from out of the country, which means you have to say you're okay with it.

Speaker 1 Otherwise, get the fuck out. Leave the country.
Get the fuck out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go. On top of that, the hiring is supposedly like labyrinthine and insane.

Speaker 1 I saw people describing how they did 12 interviews not to get the job, or that Larian requires huge amounts of unpaid labor through test writing phases.

Speaker 1 And so basically we're at the period in which we discover beloved independently owned video game company Larian is

Speaker 1 a company.

Speaker 1 Period.

Speaker 1 What confuses that the desire to foist good feelings on upper management because they made a good game for you

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 probably mistaken because you don't know anyone that you don't know.

Speaker 1 And the follow-up to this, which has straight up ruined my day in the past three hours, is that someone sent me a English translated article from a French newspaper in July of this year talking to one of the artists, or I think it's Guillaume Brosch, on Expedition 33, where they actually do ask him about the AI use and the texture that was

Speaker 1 coming from Expedition 33, to which point he says, oh yeah, we use AI during the process, but like, we make sure to go over it and take it out.

Speaker 1 So the game that I've been glazing like a motherfucker for like a year and just won every single game award and which I predicted it should win every single game award is part of the problem.

Speaker 1 And what's worse than that, it absolutely is game of the year and quality isn't the point, but now I'm emotionally attached to something that makes me upset.

Speaker 1 So I'm kind of upset about it. Yep.
I'm kind of devastated and disappointed. Yep.

Speaker 1 So, in fact, I do believe

Speaker 1 however many episodes ago, part of the conversation I was having was, there will be a time where you're not going to know or something will come along and you'll find out after the fact and this will be what it is, right?

Speaker 1 With Larian in particular, it's pretty strange in the sense that because they, you know, there was the whole like speech about like, you know, supporting the independent creator team and then the fact and so on.

Speaker 1 But that same speech also is

Speaker 1 what confuses me is like, if the details of how you use it are so minuscule towards the actual end result and end product. Why are you using it? Well, why even bring this up, right? Why even men?

Speaker 1 Why even mention at this point? Like, why even go here? It says we're not actually saving any time.

Speaker 1 It makes no sense, right? It's really weird. So like by bringing it up, it's talking, it's immediately downplaying the role that it plays and how useful it is and what it can or cannot do.

Speaker 1 And you're saying, okay, it's not being used to,

Speaker 1 you know, end result generate anything creative, but then it's just this insanely minor thing. So it's like, yeah, why even bother?

Speaker 1 And then you go, is it because there's somebody who wants to hear that word because of investment reasons? But then you go, but no,

Speaker 1 that might be, no, no, they're independently owned, but they still have investments from Tencent. Right.

Speaker 1 And so, and now I'm thinking back to when they said, okay, so the trick is to be independently owned and to have investors, but to not be beholden to those investors because they that's how you make the game go bad, right?

Speaker 1 That's how so basically the whole the whole thing about we have we do have outside investors, but we are the ones who decide how we're making our games and where we're going and what we're doing and we don't have the investors pushing us in any direction and controlling shit like that.

Speaker 1 It feels like this is actually genuinely like the CEO's like it. I love it because

Speaker 1 I can't understand why you'd make that point about the independence of you know the power of your independence and then go this way, which is the clear say the word get the cash trend movement, you know, so it's it's really strange

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 there's been like I think there's been like two sets of clarifications about how AI is not going to be in the game. We just use it to build the scaffolding, essentially,

Speaker 1 and like the like the total inability to understand, like they're talking about it like it's a legal liability issue.

Speaker 1 And like, no, everyone's being like, no, the tech itself itself is like inherently immoral and we don't want it to be used and it's not as interesting and like there's like a really intense disconnect and no matter how hard you yell or how loud you are um there is a there is a massive hilarious upside to this

Speaker 1 and i really mean this is going to be the funniest ever so ceo and pr man come out within an hour of that article coming out to run damage control all day.

Speaker 1 And I get the feeling that that is very annoying to them. That this is now the topic about Divinity, like this is what people are going to be talking about, Divinity for a while.

Speaker 1 Well, Divinity is going to go into early access,

Speaker 1 and part of Larian's early access plan is to sift through user feedback.

Speaker 1 And if they're annoyed by this feedback,

Speaker 1 they're going to get really fucking frustrated going through page after page after page after page of take this shit out, start it over, fuck off to try and get to any legitimate feedback about the game whatsoever.

Speaker 1 Oh, Sven also says that the game will actually take, it'll be way bigger than Baldur's Gate 3, and it will take two years less because of AI, in which I say I don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 1 That sounds like the kind of shit the CD Project used to say.

Speaker 1 That cyberpunk's going to be bigger than ever, and we're going to make it less time with our own edge. It's

Speaker 1 yeah, I think the conversation is going to, I mean, as it continues, because this is literally just everything every week for as long as we fucking can stand it.

Speaker 1 I think what's probably going to happen is, you know, more and more,

Speaker 1 especially like devs of stuff that are, that we know, devs of stink games, games we like, things like that.

Speaker 1 Like the discussion is going to basically start bringing out the nuances of it, where I think right now there's a lot of folks that that are, you know, kind of like-minded here, where we're like, okay, fuck the bullshit, fuck this bullshit on a generative stealing first, like

Speaker 1 first

Speaker 1 layer of what you're seeing is the direct output of Sora, a fucking,

Speaker 1 whatchamacallit, mid-journey,

Speaker 1 any of that shit, right? Where you're just replacing the entire creative process.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 you go further into it, and then there's going to be people who are like, okay, well, fuck that top layer, but it's okay for programming, for using it to simplify code, or for using it to replace Google or searching or whatever.

Speaker 1 And then there's different, you're going to see different layers of that nuance. And then that's going to start to essentially,

Speaker 1 it's going to make the conversation much more complicated as we go forward.

Speaker 1 But I know. The lie is actually really simple.
Is the machine you're using based off of stuff that you fed into it exclusively?

Speaker 1 Or is it based off of stuff that came from the database that it stole from other people? That's like, that's the dividing line.

Speaker 1 Nobody is mad at DLSS, the anti-aliasing resolution technique, because everybody signs up to put their fucking footage into DLSS because it gives you better frame rates. That's it.

Speaker 1 And I, and

Speaker 1 the, the version of that that you get is, for example, okay, texture artist who is used to using texture, not necessarily from photos that they went out and took, but from existing resources elsewhere, from existing photos, from places that were from Googling, from using stock footage, whatever the case is, people that would go and get those, basically go out and get those resources elsewhere and use those in their final assets, but replacing the process of retrieving them.

Speaker 1 Can I hold up my hand for a second? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm seeing a lot of people saying, I hate DLSS.
No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 I'm not, I'm saying saying you can hate DLSS because you don't like it as an anti-aliasing technique. I'm saying you don't hate DLSS because it is an inherently immoral technology.

Speaker 1 It blurs things and it can act goofy at higher frame rates. But like, that's the, you, you all know what I mean.
Everybody knows what I fucking mean.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, from here, the, the inherent, uh, and then you get into this even further discussion of, well, what, I'm sure this will come up.

Speaker 1 Like, what is reference and how do artists use reference and how does that, that, how does that work? Because I can, I can say.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for a fucking in-game horse to be fucking drawn on the fucking chat GPT image of what a fucking horse looks like. Because I can tell you, I remember being in college when

Speaker 1 the when we were in class and it was like literally one of the classes was here's how you go and get reference and here's how you use that reference when you're rendering.

Speaker 1 And you're going to go out and you're going to find photos or you take take them yourself if you can, but otherwise, you're going to find magazines, you're going to Google, you're going to do whatever, and you're going to get a list of things of horse, of robot, of whatever, and you're going to put these all up on the board, and then you're going to use your brain to synthesize that information and create a brand new final product.

Speaker 1 Man, but at least Bungie had the decency to steal from a fucking human being

Speaker 1 and then they had to pay out.

Speaker 1 So, the x-ray behind this process of going out and retrieving all that and and retrieving this information

Speaker 1 if the if the discussion even goes this far if you did there is it's going to get very weird and dicey real quick as to how many artists are literally just pulling everything from their brain versus how many people are using reference in this way and then using this as a shortcut necessarily you know

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 who knows uh i i'm i'm really sick of being a foodie who turns out to be vegetarian at the cookout. I'm getting super fucking sick of this.

Speaker 1 I think I'm getting fucking depressed

Speaker 1 about how many times I find bacon in my fucking quinoa salad and go, oh, fuck, come on. And everyone around me is just chowing down, going, man, have you had the veal? Like, I give a shit.

Speaker 1 I'm getting depressed.

Speaker 1 So for me, as someone who was like a fucking artist attempt or attempted artist back in the day and all that i have a no you're not an attempted artist you're an artist you've i've seen i've seen it you've done some arts um there's a real that's your take is what you is what you said there with the for me it's straightforward very simple remember the kid back in school who traced and then said it was his

Speaker 1 Yeah, I remember that kid. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's who gets to win right now. That's who gets to.

Speaker 1 That's who gets to take the tracers. And people that are using Tracer mentality get to fucking run the show and be like, Yeah, yeah, no, I'm the best.
I'm the greatest.

Speaker 1 Fuck you. Tracers win.
That's all that's happening. It's that exact kid.
Fast forward 20 years.

Speaker 1 I'm becoming highly discouraged and kind of a little depressed as

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 every single week, the pie of stuff that I can feel good about gets smaller. Be it

Speaker 1 like people, somebody pointed out like a really good point. Like, I wish you guys would stop talking about 2xKO because Riot's evil.
Riot is evil.

Speaker 1 And I picked my battle in that I'm like, oh, I'm supporting the team that makes 2xKO and not Riot in general. And that's cope.

Speaker 1 That's cope. We say, but that's okay.
I can have a little bit of cope, right? I can have a little bit of cope as a treat because I'm only human.

Speaker 1 But now, well, this is cope, and this is cope, and this, and this, and this, and the Saudis are investing and this director's asshole.

Speaker 1 And Mike Z made fucking Skull Girls and came on this podcast and blew smoke up our fucking ass for an hour and then signed off to be a complete piece of shit.

Speaker 1 And it's just like every single fucking day.

Speaker 1 I'm a little frustrated. I can see that you're a little frustrated.

Speaker 1 It's pretty fucking frustrating.

Speaker 1 We say, as we speak into

Speaker 1 our podcast on twitch.tv, a Bezos product. Big fan of Amazon, everybody.
And then get that double upload over to YouTube, a

Speaker 1 Google product. Watch my Fallout Show, Microsoft Property by Amazon.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's just what it is. I feel

Speaker 1 giving a shit about anything does nothing but actively harm me. I am at that point now.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm at the point where, like,

Speaker 1 I, I, I might, like, a fucking super villain divergence where I'm like, everyone is just stupid and evil, and only I have, or, or,

Speaker 1 why give a shit at all? Why not just eat it? Like, like I'm at the fucking Lex Luther fucking crossroads.

Speaker 1 I got no sage sage advice here

Speaker 1 because we're all fucking in it, not knowing where we go. But I can say, do what you need to do to protect your sanity.

Speaker 1 Well, my sanity's never been good.

Speaker 1 Like, do what you need to do.

Speaker 1 Put the cage up and draw the lines and protect your fucking brain in whatever way you need to.

Speaker 1 Because I mentioned like

Speaker 1 a while ago running into somebody who was like way in the World of Warcraft and like Harry Potter. And I was like, you can't fight the power every day.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, yeah, I guess that applies to me also. I have usually been blessed by not getting into things that were made by the worst people in the world.

Speaker 1 I've actually been really lucky about that for most of my life.

Speaker 1 Well, there is that, but there's also the understanding that I think we both got years ago that the purity test never fucking comes true, comes clean. Oh, never, never.
The purity test doesn't work.

Speaker 1 Oh, absolutely. You can't live your life like that.
It's impossible.

Speaker 1 It's fucking impossible. Truth.
Did you ever read The Sword of Truth?

Speaker 1 No. So somebody pointed out, like, on a thread somewhere, like, oh, man, that guy was like an insane fascist libertarian.
And I'm like, what? And then I sat there for a second.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, yeah, he totally is.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 And it was like really on the nose, too. Like, I remember those books and being like, oh, yeah, that guy's evil.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right? Like,

Speaker 1 like, you have that, where it's like, something as a kid, and you have to, like, you just think about it for the first time and as an adult, and you're like, oh, well, I mean, well, there's a whole lot of concepts that

Speaker 1 I'm still fucking learning about to this day, you know, on a bunch of shit that you digest as a kid.

Speaker 1 But, you know,

Speaker 1 it just, yeah, you need to just keep your sanity in check, however you can, and

Speaker 1 keeping it and being well aware that the purity test shit just is completely untenable and doesn't work in that way.

Speaker 1 You don't also want to, like, I don't know how high is the tower you, like,

Speaker 1 I hate the

Speaker 1 thing that happens where because we talk about shit that we hate and that sucks a lot,

Speaker 1 there's a feeling of like thus this podcast is like holier than thou and sitting on a tower of morality and is

Speaker 1 so I actually go really far out of my way to be like, I never tell anybody what they should

Speaker 1 not do. I hate this weird thing that comes when in their shoes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I and it's it's just and it's it fucking sucks because it just like everybody that has their different lines on where they're going to draw them, like,

Speaker 1 people that went and fucking like, are like, you know what? I want to play Hogwarts Legacy too fucking bad. I'm like, okay, do your thing.
Do your thing. I mean, I'm not interested.

Speaker 1 But that's mine. I'm not.

Speaker 1 Right? But, but, like, but the problem, the problem. You can do whatever you want, but I'm going to just think my fucking thoughts over here.

Speaker 1 But the problem about like saying your personal bit.

Speaker 1 in this way is that some people are going to interpret that as a prescription as as a doctrine that you are putting out for everyone else to follow.

Speaker 1 And not only that, but you're on your soapbox, you're in your tower saying that everyone else needs to be, again, do this purity test and come up clean, right? Hey, you know what, man?

Speaker 1 I do want to take issue.

Speaker 1 Somebody linked me a long time ago to some smarmy ass fucking tweet about all that Harry Potter nonsense that was like, hey, just because you were never into Harry Potter doesn't make you better than those of us who are like struggling to to deal with blah blah blah blah blah and all I could think of when I saw that is like yeah it does it means I have better fucking taste because those books suck ass dummy

Speaker 1 I'm sorry my taste is way better than your taste

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 have learned that if you're a kid and you get exposed to whatever magical world you do first,

Speaker 1 like before you had a chance to even discern. You know what magical world we got fucking exposed to? Dragonlance.
Has anyone said a fucking mean thing about Richard A.

Speaker 1 Connett or Margaret Weiss or Tracy Hickman? No, they were great. Those books are awesome.
They just, they fucking dropped them and disappeared, as far as I know. Don't, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Don't look into it. Who knows? Like, fucking, I don't, I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 But, but it's just, this is persistent. It's, it's, it's, you know, and it, and it, and it, it doesn't get any better as time goes goes on and and and

Speaker 1 right

Speaker 1 um and then you get you get this

Speaker 1 It's it's the combination of like I don't know just trying to have your own opinions and be normal and so we're talking about shit that we think sucks, right?

Speaker 1 I never have tried that you have you're talking about what you what you're talking about what you think sucks and you get that right and then you and then on the other side of this at the same time you get this the bit where it's like oh remember we're looking at the hilarious insanity of the uh Blizzard diversity chart points or whatever?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was the funniest fucking shit in the world. Right.
And then you get the people who are pulling that, oh, we're laughing for the wrong reasons bit.

Speaker 1 You get the people who are like, oh, no, that was great, right? Because fuck all that shit, right? Because

Speaker 1 you're on my team with that, right? And you're like, oh,

Speaker 1 oh, no, no, no, we hate this for the wrong reasons. That's like we are not the same.

Speaker 1 We are not the same.

Speaker 1 Compared to your side of the camera, is I can guarantee you I definitely get a lot more people who think I'm on their team. Right, right, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be on your team, bro.

Speaker 1 And so, you get that weird thing, right? So, you get on the one side with the like, you know, sit in your tower, and then you get the other side with the fucking, like, oh, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1 I see what you're putting down there, and you're like, Can you be fucking normal? Can you just be normal? No, no, no, you can't, you can't.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I actually make an apology to anyone who watches my stuff or follows me on social media.

Speaker 1 I was talking about the game awards, and I was like, I don't understand where all this anger about the game awards is coming from.

Speaker 1 To which people pointed out that Jeff Keeley is like a scumbag and uses diversity,

Speaker 1 like women and black people, as like props to make the game awards look more legitimate. And every single thing he says up there is a complete fucking pile of shit.

Speaker 1 To which I say, what are you all fucking stupid? Of course he's like, are you, have you not been paying attention? To which somebody pointed out the Dorito Pope shit, that was like 13 years ago.

Speaker 1 Somebody pointed out to me that, like, they were like, bro, I was like six years old when that Dorito Pope stuff happened. Like, I don't, yeah, that was that was that was a lifetime.
Right.

Speaker 1 And I did the same thing talking about the Leica Dragon developers where they're like, can you believe

Speaker 1 they hired like a sex abuser to replace one of the actors in the Yakuza Kawami 3 remake? I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Have you like

Speaker 1 played one of their games?

Speaker 1 Are you like, really? And, like, oh, right. That's not necessarily institutional common knowledge

Speaker 1 because now it's happened to me, and now I feel how it feels. And it actually feels really bad, and I don't like it.

Speaker 1 So, I'd like to apologize to everybody who I implied was stupid for not having some interior gaming knowledge that only a complete freak like me would have.

Speaker 1 But, yeah.

Speaker 1 Do what you got to do to protect your sanity, right?

Speaker 1 Take your steps, draw your lines. Well, my wife doesn't let me eat a whole chocolate orange to feel better anymore, Wooly.
Okay, well. So, what am I supposed to do with my sanity? I don't know, but

Speaker 1 mine is

Speaker 1 I have a list of

Speaker 1 there you go. That's yours.

Speaker 1 That'll do it.

Speaker 1 Oh, this dog's so ugly.

Speaker 1 I've got a list of Saudi percentages right here.

Speaker 1 Quick access. Pop up.

Speaker 1 There it is. No, I'm not.
Did you tell anybody about that list? I'm not really, but it's there. I'm just like, oh, what's going on? Do you want to tell people what that list is?

Speaker 1 Because it's really funny. It's just a list of percentages.
It's a list of companies and percentages and then the dollars next to that number. That's all.
It's a very simple list.

Speaker 1 I think I sent you some of it. You sent me the list and I got really bummed out.
Oh, yeah. There we go.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And a bunch of those are unupdated because

Speaker 1 some of that reporting stuff.

Speaker 1 Who can keep track of the stock market? Yep.

Speaker 1 But it's just, I just have it right here. And it's just like, you know, anytime anyone, any conversation comes up, I'm like, oh,

Speaker 1 what do you want? Here we are. You feel this way about this? How do you what? Okay, well,

Speaker 1 you know, we can all sit in the poop together.

Speaker 1 You know? But I don't want to be in the bully.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be in the poop. I want to be on my high horse.
What's away from all the poop? What's worse? 96% of $600 million

Speaker 1 or 7%

Speaker 1 that equals multiple billions. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I legit couldn't tell. I don't fucking know.

Speaker 1 But 96% is a higher number by percent. But what about cash dollars?

Speaker 1 Because fucking Nintendo and Capcom and a billion others. Yeah, we can't.

Speaker 1 We're now at the point where you're just going to get the

Speaker 1 straight up, like the red string and the fucking corkboard out. Yeah, but it's like, it's real.

Speaker 1 Which number bothers you more? Does 96% of a cheap ass fucking SNK nothing like

Speaker 1 you know? I don't know. I don't know.
I can't answer that.

Speaker 1 I'm not equipped. I want Aaron Moten and Walton Goggins to kiss on the Fallout show today.

Speaker 1 Can they have a.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 did someone just say Nintendo untouched by some shit by shit somehow oh my god Nintendo are you run by criminals are you out of your mind

Speaker 1 are you out of your mind

Speaker 1 bitch bitch bitch what do you want to know eight point five eight percent does that work for you

Speaker 1 three point eight billion dollars

Speaker 1 Nintendo and Sega you

Speaker 1 send cards

Speaker 1 to threaten to kill people.

Speaker 1 Does four entire SNKs worth of investment in Nintendo do it for you? Bitch, what the fuck are you talking about? I really love how you brought that up.

Speaker 1 Like, your brain went to the numerical money thing, and I went to the historical building up of that company was just straight up criminal.

Speaker 1 Are you at it? Like, the two-prong attack.

Speaker 1 So, this is how I keep my sanity.

Speaker 1 Is I just go, where are we? Okay, there we are okay cool just want to know boot up Metroid Prime have a good time

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 all right

Speaker 1 shall we take a letter or two yeah let's take a letter send in a letter to castlesuperbeastmail at gmail.com that's castlesuper beastmail at gmail.com if you want to tell us your reasons for fucking

Speaker 1 not giving up doesn't nintendo have like slaves now like for real um did they like no they slave that hacker so they instituted their anti-Karoshi law rules where they're forcing people to take breaks, which was good.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, not that. The guy that they sued for piracy, and now he like owes them part of his salary for the rest of his life.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, oh, okay, oh, hmm, like, isn't that just indentured servitude to Nintendo? Possibly, I, I, you know, I don't, I don't remember the details on that one.

Speaker 1 Um, I mean, they, there was no kidnap sisters involved in the

Speaker 1 in the recent decades, so So, you know,

Speaker 1 there's something

Speaker 1 but like a kidnapped sister is so clear on the chart of ethics and morality. You know, some gestures are like, there's no ambiguity in a kidnapped sister.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got it like it's very clear.

Speaker 1 I think there's like a really, because Sega's going to come out and say, if they haven't already, they're going to come out and say that they're going to use AI and people are going to lose their minds.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to be like, guys, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the company organization Sega has killed people. I

Speaker 1 like for Sherzies, allegedly. I appreciate.

Speaker 1 Allegedly for Sherzies.

Speaker 1 I appreciate a kidnapped sister for the same reasons.

Speaker 1 I appreciate a kidnapped sister for the same reasons I appreciate overt racism.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Think about it.
Because it's funny. Wait, no.
No.

Speaker 1 That was the wrong thing. No.
It's clear. It's clear.

Speaker 1 There's no gray here. We're in a very pun intended black and white world and situation.
It is as clear as day.

Speaker 1 We don't have to fucking, we don't have to, there's no parsing.

Speaker 1 It's like Sega kidnapped that dude's sister. That's fucking crazy.
You put on brown face and went to a party. That's fucking crazy.
I wish, I wish,

Speaker 1 I, I wish that the CEO of Larian, I mispronounce his name every time, so I'm not going to try anymore.

Speaker 1 Just did that interview and went, yeah, we use AI for for whatever but you fucking little piggies don't care who gives a shit you'll be able to fuck two bears this time oh well that would be so much more honest and straight I would appreciate that so much but that's the Krafton CEO and and we are laughing at oh my god we'll make lords of the fallen two that'll have attractive females in revealing clothing like you're a fucking robot like oh my god like we just like like as much as we can say that we just threw that Kraft and CEO under the bus because he finds it comfortable there where he can watch from, from the darkness of under the bus.

Speaker 1 As, you know, like, it's just,

Speaker 1 it's really funny, though. Like, for real.
Like.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're gonna, if, can I, like, if you, if you're gonna try and piss on me, can you give me some razzle dazzle so that I can at least think for one second, maybe it is raining?

Speaker 1 Can I have that? Or is that too much to ask?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Where's the showmanship?

Speaker 1 Like, come on.

Speaker 1 All right. I think we aired out a lot

Speaker 1 just now.

Speaker 1 We aired out a lot. I had some emotions.
Some of that

Speaker 1 building for most. Some of that had been building for quite maybe perhaps more than a day or two.

Speaker 1 I don't want to just sit in the corner and eat quinoa.

Speaker 1 This castle is not a fancy castle up on the hills like Castlevania. It's actually more of a bungalow.

Speaker 1 It's a bungalow super beast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not 100% sure

Speaker 1 what a bungalow is.

Speaker 1 It's a house with one floor.

Speaker 1 It's a single-story home.

Speaker 1 Bungalow.

Speaker 1 I just typed the word bungalow into my search bar and it stopped Google search because malware bytes detected a Trojan. I'm so fucking done.

Speaker 1 I can't even search on fucking Google.

Speaker 1 Can't look up bungalow on my computer.

Speaker 1 All right, let's just

Speaker 1 take one over here.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 from night, King of Tuesday

Speaker 1 dear normal parent and French parent,

Speaker 1 this week marks the 10-year anniversary.

Speaker 1 That's so much funnier than they think it is.

Speaker 1 You cut off a bit, but I'm pretty sure you said that's so much funnier. So much funnier than they think it is.
I'm pretty sure there's more

Speaker 1 French in your household than there is in mine. There is literal French in my house right now as we speak.

Speaker 1 Yep. yep.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 we've had the language discussion, and yeah, yeah, you know, it's a thing.

Speaker 1 Uh, dear normal parent and French parent, this week marks the 10-year anniversary of Silent Hill's Wiki admin going on a massive edit spree to push an agenda about circumcision as genital mutilation.

Speaker 1 What are your favorite admin freakouts you've seen?

Speaker 1 Uh, I mean, if you ask me, that would be the one. You can look up a great.

Speaker 1 Why can't I remember his name?

Speaker 1 He did a great video on it.

Speaker 1 I can't remember his name. He's super into metal.
He's got super long hair. He's really handsome.

Speaker 1 Justin Wang?

Speaker 1 Justin Wang. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's really handsome. He did a great video on the Silent Hill

Speaker 1 circumcision.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 that's a bullet point list of priorities when bringing someone up. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 He is very handsome. He's very handsome.
He's very handsome.

Speaker 1 He had one of the best tweets I've ever seen in my life, which is, I'm fighting racism by fucking white girls.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're doing your

Speaker 1 part, buddy. So, so I have a shirt, and I've, I've, there's an Instagram post of me wearing it some time ago.

Speaker 1 That shirt says, I am my ancestor's wildest dreams. Oh, that's good.
That's good. It's a really cool shirt.
I really like it.

Speaker 1 There are times when... You're my ancestors.

Speaker 1 There are times.

Speaker 1 When wearing that shirt is especially fucking sick.

Speaker 1 There are contexts to wear that shirt in that are extra good.

Speaker 1 Get a little timer buff out of that one.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 The answer for me remains the Catallica

Speaker 1 dev.

Speaker 1 That's the. Who's that? That's the Sun Girl.

Speaker 1 That's the Pinks and the Greens. Oh, yeah, the Sun Girl.

Speaker 1 That's the Kickstarter board game. That is the greatest freak out of all time.
You know, Wooly, that is like a strangely vivid memory for me.

Speaker 1 Like us in the back of that shuttle from the airport going down to fucking

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 Con Bravo.

Speaker 1 Where like we were looking that up and like laughing ourselves stupid about it. So no, I didn't know about the board about that Kickstarter thing.
You told me about that after the fact.

Speaker 1 I remember learning about that after the fact from when when the Kickstarter shut down, and like I, it was like this big buildup. Yeah, did I combine two different memories into one

Speaker 1 ruhro?

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 No, that was us making fun of the Yogscast game that fucking just

Speaker 1 keeped it out and just died. I was like, did you speak to another black person? And maybe that was

Speaker 1 why the fuck would I do that?

Speaker 1 I do it every week, bro. Come on.
I fill my quota. Maybe twice a week.

Speaker 1 And we'll see you next week. Have a good week, everybody.