The People vs. O.J. Simpson: What the Jury Never Heard

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Speaker 7 He was crying over the coffin, kissed the coffin.

Speaker 9 He said, I'm sorry, Nick. I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 I said, oh my God, he did it.

Speaker 8 He killed her.

Speaker 6 I just remembered screaming.

Speaker 11 Probably the scariest moment in my entire life.

Speaker 6 It was physically painful.

Speaker 13 That was

Speaker 13 not justice.

Speaker 14 The murders took only minutes.

Speaker 15 Are you a suspect?

Speaker 14 All these years later, the shock has yet to fade.

Speaker 16 It was a stunning time

Speaker 16 in American legal theater.

Speaker 14 You may think you know the story of the O.J. Simpson case, but there is a lot you probably haven't heard, haven't seen.
Did Nicole Brown Simpson actually predict her own death?

Speaker 8 What she said to us was that O.J.'s going to kill me, and he's going to get away with it.

Speaker 1 What really went on in the jury room?

Speaker 18 Not guilty of the crime of murder.

Speaker 19 All people wanted to do was go home.

Speaker 14 And in a frank interview, prosecutor Marcia Clark answers the most important question of all.

Speaker 1 How did you not convict this guy?

Speaker 14 The O.J. Simpson case.

Speaker 14 I'm Lester Holt, and this is Dateline. Here's Josh Mankowitz.

Speaker 1 June 12th, 1994, Brentwood, California. Two horrific murders that came to be defined by just three words: the OJ case.

Speaker 21 It was a very bloody scene, a very traumatic scene.

Speaker 22 Both victims had their throats slashed.

Speaker 24 OJ, please surrender immediately.

Speaker 25 Suspect named Arinthol James Simpson.

Speaker 15 I am OJ in the car.

Speaker 26 We do have sufficient evidence to convict him.

Speaker 15 I believe 100% not guilty.

Speaker 27 How about that, Mr. Funk?

Speaker 28 If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.

Speaker 18 Not guilty of the crime of murder.

Speaker 1 It was the story that wouldn't go away. If you lived here, and by here we mean the United States, you had an opinion.

Speaker 15 You are a people.

Speaker 1 A nation made room in its collective consciousness for this collision of pop culture and legal drama.

Speaker 1 More than a quarter century ago, it touched issues we still can't agree on today. Race, money, privilege, fame, interracial marriage, and domestic violence.

Speaker 1 This became television's first reality show. The case consumed us and then divided us.

Speaker 1 Even now, we are still fascinated.

Speaker 1 Because there are still questions about what really happened that night in Brentwood and why,

Speaker 1 despite a staggering amount of evidence, O.J. Simpson was acquitted.

Speaker 1 We'll provide some answers with interviews done over the years, rare footage, and haunting memories, including a candid interview with prosecutor Marcia Clark, who doesn't hold back when discussing her unique perspective on the case.

Speaker 1 On everything from the infamous Bronco chase, I'm thinking we look like the biggest idiots ever. To the trial of the century.

Speaker 29 And every day we'd walk into court and something else was blowing up.

Speaker 18 Not guilty of the crime of murder.

Speaker 1 And of course, the verdict. You blame yourself for this?

Speaker 29 You know, I always do. I do.
Crime of murder.

Speaker 1 It was a cool late spring evening in Brentwood. Around midnight, a couple was walking a dog down a quiet section of South Bundy Drive.
when something strange caught their attention.

Speaker 1 Then, at the entrance to a condominium numbered 875, they saw it.

Speaker 1 A body in a river of blood.

Speaker 1 Police arrived and discovered a second victim. Investigators would soon follow, including veteran homicide detective Tom Lang.

Speaker 22 This isn't a robbery and this isn't for sex. This is a rage killing.
Nicole was nearly decapitated.

Speaker 1 Nicole was 35-year-old Nicole Brown Simpson, the ex-wife of O.J. Simpson.
Near the bodies was a bloody leather glove, an envelope with a pair of eyeglasses, and a blue-knit cap.

Speaker 1 Cops later ID'd the male victim as 25-year-old Ronald Goldman. At this point, they didn't know much about him.
There's numerous wounds on the neck.

Speaker 22 Goldman put up a fight.

Speaker 1 Asleep inside the house were The Simpsons' two children, Sidney and Justin, who hadn't heard a thing. They were taken to a nearby police station.

Speaker 22 We need next of kin to take care of these kids. We need to find O.J.
Simpson.

Speaker 1 As dawn broke in Brentwood, Lang and three other detectives were sent to Simpsons' estate on nearby Rockingham Avenue. One of them was Detective Mark Furman.

Speaker 1 Arriving detectives feared the worst, that Simpson may have suffered the same fate as his ex-wife.

Speaker 22 We've just left a bloody crime scene.

Speaker 22 Is Simpson in there as one of the victims?

Speaker 1 So without a search warrant, Detective Fuhrman jumped the wall and let in the other cops. In one of the estate's bungalows, detectives found Simpson's 25-year-old daughter, Arnelle.

Speaker 1 They learned her father was out of town on a business trip in Chicago. In the other bungalow, detectives woke up a shaggy-haired young man named Brian Cato Kalen.

Speaker 1 Kalen had been living at Simpson's house for five months. He'd come to L.A.
to be an actor, and now he was about to star in the role of his life,

Speaker 1 answering questions about where he'd last seen Simpson.

Speaker 11 I had seen him earlier in the day and he was talking about women problems. He needed someone to talk to, and I was the only guy probably available.

Speaker 1 This wasn't normally the relationship you had with him. Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Later that evening, Kalen said Simpson came by his door to get change for a $100 bill and also mentioned getting something to eat.

Speaker 1 So just after 9 p.m., they hopped in Simpson's Bentley and went to McDonald's. Did Simpson ask Kalen to go with him to establish an alibi?

Speaker 11 I invited myself. He didn't ask me and I thought, oh, I was starving.

Speaker 1 Kalen told detectives they got back around 9.40 p.m. He returned to his bungalow.
and didn't see Simpson again for approximately an hour and a half. Then, around 10.45 p.m.,

Speaker 1 Kalen says he heard three strange sounds.

Speaker 11 It was a loud, it was a banging noise, if someone bumped into a wall.

Speaker 1 Kalen came outside to check on the noise and saw limo driver Alan Park at the gate, waiting to take Simpson to the airport. A few minutes later, Simpson came out of the house.

Speaker 1 His luggage was loaded, and the limo sped off.

Speaker 1 Kalen's story seemed to add up, so now it was Simpson the cops really wanted to talk to. He was in his hotel in Chicago when detectives told him what had happened in LA.

Speaker 22 There were no details given except that Nicole was dead. He said, I'll be on the next plane back there.

Speaker 1 Now came another phone call, the one Tom Lang dreaded, notifying Nicole's family.

Speaker 10 You hear that phone ring, and I hear a scream from my mom's room that I had never heard before. I mean, it was just awful.

Speaker 1 Awful, awful. Denise Brown, Nicole's older sister, remembers rushing to her mother's room.

Speaker 8 She says, your sister's dead.

Speaker 10 And I said, oh my God, he did it.

Speaker 31 He killed her.

Speaker 1 He being O.J. Simpson, Denise's former brother-in-law.
Detective Lang was stunned at this sudden new lead.

Speaker 22 That was my first inkling that perhaps...

Speaker 22 Simpson was involved in this.

Speaker 1 Nicole's family, devastated in an instant, continued the grim task and called her best friend, Chris Jenner. I was like, what?

Speaker 7 What do you mean, Nicole died?

Speaker 13 It was like, it was devastating. I think I almost passed out.
It was just the worst feeling you could possibly imagine.

Speaker 1 Chris had known Nicole since 1978. They met through Chris's former husband, Robert Kardashian.
who was Simpson's best friend and attorney. Chris adored Simpson too, she said, like a big brother.

Speaker 6 He was very charming, a lot of fun to be around. You could tell he was the type of person who really enjoyed life.

Speaker 1 Chris and Nicole had become fast friends, and the two couples were like family. Now, all of that was suddenly gone.

Speaker 6 Everyone's life changed.

Speaker 13 Nicole died, and nothing would ever be the same.

Speaker 1 The world had changed forever for Chris Jenner, for the Brown and Goldman families, and for O.J. Simpson, who would soon be back home in L.A., where a trail of evidence led right to his front door.

Speaker 14 Much of that evidence was blood, and this would be the first major trial where DNA played a huge, although controversial, role.

Speaker 14 When we returned, someone else's world was also about to change. A deputy DA named Marsha Clark.

Speaker 29 He goes, you know who it is? O.J. Simpson.

Speaker 32 Who's that?

Speaker 29 You're not a big football fan. No, I wasn't a big football fan.
But I know who he is now.

Speaker 1 In 1994, the city of angels was about to get an education. Back then, most of us had never heard the name Kardashian.
Today's powerful bond between DNA evidence and criminal guilt didn't yet exist.

Speaker 1 And the name O.J. Simpson belonged to a friendly, recognizable sports star, actor, and corporate ambassador.
Someone the nation knew, trusted, and liked.

Speaker 1 From his naked gun movies to his NFL broadcasts, as his colleague Bob Costas remembers.

Speaker 34 He was always the quintessential hail Fellow well-met. He was outwardly as likable a person as you could ever want to encounter.

Speaker 1 But on day two of this story, much of that history was in the process of being rewritten. The Brentwood crime scene was now crawling with cops looking for clues and collecting evidence.

Speaker 1 Blood was everywhere, and leading from it a trail of bloody shoe prints. Near the bodies was a bloody left-handed glove and a blue-knit cap.

Speaker 1 And inside the walls of Simpson's Rockingham estate, Detective Mark Fuhrman went behind Kato Kalin's bungalow and discovered a moist, bloody glove, similar to the one at the crime scene.

Speaker 22 So we look at the glove and it looks the same type.

Speaker 1 And it was a right-handed glove.

Speaker 22 Yeah, same everything.

Speaker 1 Detectives also found a trail of blood drops on Simpson's driveway, leading from the White Ford Bronco parked on the street. Lang braced himself for what was to come.

Speaker 22 This is very sensitive now. It's a celebrity case.

Speaker 36 At midnight last night, a passerby observed the body, a female white body and a male white body.

Speaker 1 By now, the news media had the first sketchy reports. Deputy District Attorney Marcia Clark was with the special trials unit.

Speaker 1 She was consulted about getting a search warrant for Rockingham by Tom Lang's partner, Detective Phil Van Adder, who already considered Simpson a suspect.

Speaker 29 He goes, you know who it is? O.J. Simpson.

Speaker 32 Who's that?

Speaker 29 Oh, wait.

Speaker 26 Oh, yeah, naked gun.

Speaker 9 Hurts?

Speaker 1 Commercial, right?

Speaker 30 You're not a big football fan.

Speaker 29 No, I wasn't a big football fan. But I know who he is now.

Speaker 1 Some 13 hours after the murders, Simpson returned to L.A. from Chicago.
A journey that took him from household name to potential suspect. You never thought of him as a killer? No, no.

Speaker 7 To me, he was bigger than life and had a great personality.

Speaker 26 He loved, you know,

Speaker 6 being O.J. Simpson.

Speaker 1 Bad enough that Simpson might be involved in the murder of her best friend.

Speaker 1 But now, Chris was further conflicted because her former husband, Robert Kardashian, was Simpson's longtime personal attorney.

Speaker 1 Kardashian was also at Rockingham and was caught on camera carrying what appeared to be Simpson's garment bag. Much has been speculated about what might have been in that bag.

Speaker 1 Could you conceive of him

Speaker 1 loving his friend so much that he would help him dispose of evidence?

Speaker 7 Absolutely not.

Speaker 6 I guarantee you 150%

Speaker 7 that he had this character and integrity and Christian values and believed in the truth.

Speaker 37 OJ, what can you say about this?

Speaker 38 Back up, big piece. Get out of the way.

Speaker 31 You don't know anything you say?

Speaker 1 Detectives now wanted to bring in Simpson for questioning. His attorney, Howard Weitzman, said his client would fully cooperate.

Speaker 28 He's shocked that he had nothing to do with this tragedy.

Speaker 1 After arriving at police headquarters, Simpson's lawyers met privately with him and then went to lunch, leaving their client alone with two veteran homicide detectives, Phil Van Adder and Tom Lang.

Speaker 22 That's flabbergasted. Unless he just thinks he's glib enough to say anything he wants and he's going to get around us.

Speaker 1 Detectives and O.J. Simpson now settled into a small interrogation room for a critical interview that could make or break the case.

Speaker 1 It would be the first and last time Simpson would tell his story to police.

Speaker 40 Coming up.

Speaker 33 I know I'm the number one target, and now you're telling me I upload all over the place.

Speaker 14 OJ Simpson knows just how bad things look. And he's not the only one.

Speaker 42 When Dateline continues.

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Speaker 1 Parker Center in 1994 police headquarters in downtown LA.

Speaker 1 It's seen a lot of high-profile murder investigations and thousands of interrogations. But on that June afternoon, perhaps none more pivotal than the talk detectives were about to have with O.J.

Speaker 1 Simpson. Simpson didn't have to be there.
He wasn't under arrest. And his attorneys weren't with him in the interview.

Speaker 1 So they talked, tape rolled, and we have a copy of it.

Speaker 39 And we're here with O.J. Simpson.
Is that Ornthal James Simpson?

Speaker 1 Simpson was surprisingly calm for a man whose ex-wife had just been murdered.

Speaker 22 Very narcissistic, self-assured, has to be in charge at all times.

Speaker 1 Cops were drawn to a cut on Simpson's left middle finger, and this is where Simpson's answers started becoming more vague.

Speaker 39 How did you get the injury on your hands?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 48 Not the first time.

Speaker 36 I know that when I was in Chicago, I know how, but at the house, I was just running around.

Speaker 39 How did you do it in Chicago?

Speaker 36 I broke a glass. One of you guys had just called me, and I was in the bathroom, and I just kind of went bonfish for a little bit.

Speaker 39 Is that how you cut it?

Speaker 36 It was cut before, but I think I just opened it again. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 Police had found a blood trail from the Bronco to his house. Now, Simpson offered a few new details to help explain it.

Speaker 47 Do you recall bleeding at all?

Speaker 33 Yeah, I mean, I knew I was bleeding, but it was no big deal.

Speaker 36 I bleed all the time.

Speaker 15 I mean,

Speaker 22 I play golf and stuff, so there's always something mixed and stuff here and there we don't know what direction this is going to take us but there's enough that i want your blood i want to document that finger i want your fingerprints

Speaker 1 by now simpson appeared to be sensing trouble and attempted to straighten out his story i know i'm the number one target and now you're telling me i have blood all over the place is that your blood that's dripped there if it's dripped it's what i dripped running around trying to leave then after just 32 minutes detectives wrapped up their interview and whisked Simpson to a lab where he was printed, his finger photographed, and most importantly, his blood drawn.

Speaker 22 If this guy is our suspect, his blood is going to convict him. At the core of this case is blood, blood everywhere.

Speaker 22 And he's got the evidence that we want in his body.

Speaker 15 Simpson, are you a suspect?

Speaker 1 For now, Simpson was allowed to leave.

Speaker 12 Anything you can tell him.

Speaker 1 That may have been a measure of his celebrity or or that police had suspicions they couldn't yet back up.

Speaker 1 But back at Simpson's estate, more evidence was turning up, including a pair of bloody socks on his bedroom floor.

Speaker 1 And at the crime scene itself, more blood drops were swabbed from the walkway leading to the alley, suggesting the killer was bleeding as he fled.

Speaker 36 We have now videotapes showing the bodies of Simpson's ex-wife and an unidentified man as they were removed from a walkway in front front of her Westside condominium.

Speaker 1 Monitoring all of this from her office at the criminal courts building was Deputy DA Marsha Clark, who had not yet been officially assigned the case. Did you campaign to be put on this case?

Speaker 29 At that time, it was just another big case. That's what our unit did in special trials.
We handled high-profile murder cases. That was it.
It's a good case. So, of course, I wanted it.

Speaker 29 Did I want it for fame and fortune?

Speaker 1 Hell no.

Speaker 1 All that day, Fred Goldman had been following the news reports about those murders in Brentwood. He had no idea how much or in how many ways his life was about to change.

Speaker 1 Because when Fred got home, he and his wife received a phone call from the coroner's office.

Speaker 3 And this individual said to me,

Speaker 3 did you hear in the news today that Nicole Brown

Speaker 3 was killed and your son was the other person.

Speaker 2 That's all we found out over the phone.

Speaker 12 And two of us stood there crying our eyes out.

Speaker 1 Through his shock, Fred knew he had to tell his daughter Kim, who sensed something was wrong the minute she heard his voice on the phone.

Speaker 13 And he said, Did you

Speaker 6 hear the news at all today?

Speaker 17 And I said, No, what's going on, Dad? And then he just said that

Speaker 17 Ron had died and that Ron was killed. I don't really remember too much after that.
I just remembered screaming, and

Speaker 17 he told me to get home.

Speaker 1 Ron Goldman was just 25, handsome, athletic, popular.

Speaker 30 Love you very much, and I'll see you soon.

Speaker 50 Bye.

Speaker 1 This rare footage was taken the year before his murder.

Speaker 1 The Goldmans didn't know it, but this would be their last big celebration as a family.

Speaker 1 In June of 1994, Ron had been working at Metzaluna restaurant where Nicole and her family had dined the night of the murder.

Speaker 1 When Nicole's mother left her eyeglasses there, it was Ron who later brought them to Nicole's condo. And the lives of two families were suddenly tied together forever in grief.

Speaker 3 I believe he walked into a crime in process.

Speaker 3 And he had a chance to walk away and run,

Speaker 3 but he he didn't.

Speaker 41 So he died trying to do the right thing.

Speaker 1 And that's painful.

Speaker 1 As night descended on Brentwood, O.J. Simpson was back at his estate.
Kato Kalin says Simpson wanted to have a little chat to discuss the timing of their McDonald's meal.

Speaker 1 It was a conversation, Kalin tells Dateline, that had Simpson suggesting a cover-up.

Speaker 11 He had tried to tell me, you know where I was, Kato, you know I was in the kitchen at this time and he was trying to convince me about what I believe now is an alibi for him.

Speaker 1 He was trying to get you to agree that you had spent more time with him that last evening than you actually had.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think it was in the time frame that he was with me. I said, no, you weren't.
And inside I'm going, he's trying to make me say something that's not true.

Speaker 1 Kato Kalen was seeing another O.J. Simpson, far different from the affable, glad-handing celebrity image that Simpson had so carefully cultivated and protected.

Speaker 1 But Simpson also had a dark and violent side, one that had Nicole fearing for her life just weeks before her murder.

Speaker 40 Coming up.

Speaker 14 Did Nicole Brown-Simpson predict her future?

Speaker 6 She said things are really bad between O.J.

Speaker 13 and I, and he's going to kill me, and and he's going to get away with it.

Speaker 1 The funeral was just a mile from the crime scene. This was a gathering of Nicole's family and friends.
including the man police already suspected of her murder, her ex-husband.

Speaker 11 That was a really tough day.

Speaker 1 How did Simpson react at the funeral?

Speaker 7 He was crying over the coffin, kissed the coffin.

Speaker 9 He said, I'm sorry, Nick, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Close friend Chris Jenna remembers when Nicole met Simpson. She was just 18.
He was 29.

Speaker 7 They were just really happy together.

Speaker 6 He didn't want to live without her.

Speaker 1 She was every bit as crazy about him, and in 1985 they married. The same year Simpson was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 But there would be trouble. Some parts of a star athlete's life remained a lure, and Simpson saw other women.
The two quarreled, and when that would happen, it would sometimes turn violent.

Speaker 1 Nicole kept all of it a secret, writing about it in her diary. What kind of things were in those diaries?

Speaker 10 She had to go to the emergency room. She had been beaten so badly that she, but she told the doctors that she fell off her bicycle.

Speaker 1 On New Year's Day, 1989, after an especially ugly incident, Nicole stopped covering for her husband. She called both the police and her sister, Denise.

Speaker 10 She says, can you do me a favor and come over here and take pictures of me? And so I went over.

Speaker 1 How'd she look?

Speaker 9 She had her face all scratched up.

Speaker 7 She had the black and blue all over her.

Speaker 10 I mean, she just said he went crazy.

Speaker 1 They divorced in 1992, but soon after, they tried getting back together.

Speaker 7 I felt like they really loved each other, but it was tough for them to be together.

Speaker 13 And she just always felt like he was cheating on her.

Speaker 1 Why would she go back to him?

Speaker 7 She couldn't live with him, and she couldn't live without him.

Speaker 1 Nicole's sister, Denise, says things got worse. Simpson stalked her.

Speaker 10 She says he's always there.

Speaker 26 He's always around.

Speaker 10 He won't leave me alone. I want emergency.

Speaker 25 Yeah, can you send someone to my house?

Speaker 1 And just months before her murder, Nicole was on the phone to 911,

Speaker 1 sounding at first more exasperated than frightened. Well, my ex-husband or my husband just broke into my house and he's ranting and raving.
Has he been drinking or anything?

Speaker 15 No, but he's crazy.

Speaker 1 Nicole hung up, but called back 10 minutes later as things apparently escalated.

Speaker 1 911 emergency findings. If you get someone over here

Speaker 1 No charges were filed against Simpson. His all-American public image remained intact.

Speaker 1 But privately, the last several months of Nicole's life with Simpson Simpson were a series of breakups and makeups, says Chris Jenner. In April 1994 came one last reconciliation.

Speaker 1 The two took a trip to Mexico, but things didn't work out.

Speaker 1 Nicole returned home with her mind made up.

Speaker 6 She said she was done, and there was something different within Nicole that time.

Speaker 1 But Simpson apparently wasn't ready to let go. According to Chris Jenner, he was devastated at being dumped and retaliated by threatening Nicole.

Speaker 1 Just weeks before her death, says Chris, Nicole revealed something shocking.

Speaker 6 Things are really bad between OJ and I, and he's going to kill me and he's going to get away with it.

Speaker 1 And soon after, Chris Jenner was attending her best friend's funeral.

Speaker 1 And as the funeral was winding down, things were busy at the LAPD crime lab, lab, where preliminary results comparing Simpson's blood to the samples collected at the crime scene were now in.

Speaker 1 And they matched. The bloody trail at Bundy, Rockingham, and inside the Bronco all came back to Simpson.
Which meant,

Speaker 22 We want to go and get them and bring them in and book them like we would anybody else.

Speaker 1 Instead, a deal was struck with Simpson's recently hired defense attorney, Robert Shapiro. To avoid all the media, Simpson would discreetly turn himself in at the jail in the back of Parker Center.

Speaker 1 The deadline was Friday, June 17th, 1994, 11 a.m. sharp.
But O.J. Simpson never showed.
As the nation was about to learn, he had simply disappeared.

Speaker 40 Coming up.

Speaker 14 O.J. Simpson could run, but he couldn't hide.

Speaker 15 This is AC. I have O.J.
in the car.

Speaker 14 And Marcia Clark gets a preview of things to come.

Speaker 29 He has murdered two innocent people, slaughtered them. And you're cheering his escape?

Speaker 42 When Dateline continues.

Speaker 1 Friday, June 17, 1994. would become a truly unforgettable day in Los Angeles and around the world.
That morning, Simpson Simpson was preparing to turn himself in at police headquarters.

Speaker 1 But then he suddenly vanished.

Speaker 1 OJ,

Speaker 24 wherever you are, for the sake of your family, for the sake of your children, please surrender immediately.

Speaker 1 Simpson did leave behind what many felt was a suicide note. A note his friend Robert Kardashian read on live TV.

Speaker 3 Everyone understand,

Speaker 14 I have nothing to do with Nicole's murder.

Speaker 1 I loved her.

Speaker 18 Don't feel sorry for me.

Speaker 1 I've had a great life.

Speaker 1 And no one seemed to know where Simpson was. The Los Angeles Police Department right now is actively searching for Mr.

Speaker 36 Simpson.

Speaker 36 O.J.

Speaker 1 Simpson is not at this location.

Speaker 21 There is nothing going on here.

Speaker 25 I enough attention to a suspect wanted for a double 187 in West LA Division. Suspect named Arinthal James Simpson.

Speaker 1 Then around 6.30 p.m., some seven hours after he was supposed to have turned himself in, a white Ford Bronco was spotted, with Simpson in the back seat and his close friend Al Cowlings at the wheel.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I think I just saw O.J. Simpson on the five freeway.

Speaker 22 And within a minute, the Orange County sheriffs were on him.

Speaker 25 In the number one lane at 40 miles per hour.

Speaker 1 What followed was a surreal low-speed chase, which, by the way, involved Al Cowling's Bronco, not Simpsons.

Speaker 15 This is AC. I have OJ in the car.

Speaker 38 Okay, where are you?

Speaker 15 Please, I'm coming up the five freeways. Okay.
Right now, we're all okay, but you've got to tell the planes to just back off. He's still alive, but he's got a gun through his head.

Speaker 1 95 million Americans now tuned in to watch what was suddenly the best show on TV.

Speaker 28 Here is Tom Brokal.

Speaker 41 We are looking at live pictures of Interstate 5 in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Until that moment, many viewers had settled in to watch the NBA finals between the Knicks and the Rockets. Now they would watch a split screen of the game and the chase.

Speaker 1 Bob Costas was hosting the pregame and halftime shows for NBC.

Speaker 12 And then all of a sudden, this Greek tragedy becomes part of the mix.

Speaker 34 And it's going on concurrently.

Speaker 25 There are Ten Forms in the number two lane, 25 miles per hour.

Speaker 12 This is a drama without a script.

Speaker 25 Suspect is possibly armed but use caution.

Speaker 53 It's a real gun. It was loaded.

Speaker 22 He could have used it. And you can't take a chance with someone.
Certainly you've been accused of murder.

Speaker 25 There are pedestrians all over the roadway 10 for

Speaker 1 Detective Tom Lang had Simpson's cell phone number and amazingly was able to reach him. Dateline has obtained the actual recording of that conversation, which was not released at the time.

Speaker 38 Okay, we're going to do that.

Speaker 38 I'll give you me. I'll give you my whole body.

Speaker 1 Lang used every bit of police and pop psychology he knew to keep Simpson's hand on the phone and off the trigger.

Speaker 39 Wait, you're scared everybody, though.

Speaker 54 You're scared?

Speaker 54 Just tell them I'm all sorry. You can tell them later on today and tomorrow that I was sorry.

Speaker 54 I'm sorry that I did this to the police department.

Speaker 39 Listen, I think you should tell them yourself. And I don't want to have to tell your kids that.
Your kids need you.

Speaker 54 I've already said goodbye to my kids.

Speaker 1 Marsha Clark, who by now had been assigned to prosecute Simpson for Nicole and Ron's murders, was watching all of this, furious that he was still free.

Speaker 29 We look like the biggest idiots ever. And then I thought, this looks like flight to me.
And And that is consciousness of guilt in the law.

Speaker 1 Kim Goldman was watching too and worrying Simpson might not survive.

Speaker 13 And I'm thinking, we need to bring him to the court. He needs to have his day at trial.

Speaker 3 If he's not guilty, then what's he running for?

Speaker 54 All I did was love Nicole. All I did was love her.

Speaker 39 I understand.

Speaker 54 I love everybody. I've tried to show everybody my whole life that I love everybody.

Speaker 8 It was surreal.

Speaker 13 It was devastating.

Speaker 6 It was, you know, could this get any worse?

Speaker 1 Well, maybe not worse, but certainly more weird. With crowds cheering on Simpson as if he were making a Heisman-like dash for the end zone.

Speaker 1 But Marcia Clark, who was glued to the screen, wasn't cheering. She says she was seething.

Speaker 29 I saw the people by the side of the road cheering, and I thought, oh my God,

Speaker 29 this is not good.

Speaker 1 That's a little sample of what's to come.

Speaker 29 Exactly. He has murdered two innocent people, slaughtered them, and you're cheering his escape? And it gave me a full-on view of what we were up against.

Speaker 1 Finally, after nearly 90 riveting minutes,

Speaker 1 Simpson and Cowlings pulled into Rockingham.

Speaker 12 We don't know what the hell is going to happen. You don't know if he's going to get out of the car and have a shootout with the police.

Speaker 12 I couldn't have written off the possibility that he's going to kill himself.

Speaker 1 For nearly an hour, Simpson sat in the Bronco as police tried to coax him out.

Speaker 1 Finally, he emerged and collapsed into the arms of several waiting officers.

Speaker 1 It was finally over.

Speaker 1 Inside the Bronco was a loaded 357 Magnum and Simpson's travel bag containing his passport, a fake goatee, and mustache.

Speaker 1 Simpson was taken away and would soon be charged with two counts of first-degree murder.

Speaker 36 O.J. Simpson is in custody.
He has been transported here to Parker Center.

Speaker 1 Convicting him seemed almost certain, especially given all that blood evidence.

Speaker 1 But District Attorney Gilgarcetti would soon make a crucial decision that would alter the course of this case long before it ever went to trial.

Speaker 40 Coming up,

Speaker 14 they were called the Dream Team.

Speaker 48 We're ready to proceed to trial, but one of the team has another name for his fellow lawyers.

Speaker 22 I call them the Nightmare Team.

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Speaker 1 He once wore number 32.

Speaker 1 Now, O.J. Simpson had a brand new number, and for the next 15 months, a new home, a dingy cell at the L.A.
County Jail, where he was being held without bail.

Speaker 1 Simpson had visits from his family, friends, attorneys, and even his former colleague, Bob Costas.

Speaker 34 I went to visit him. He tried to convince me several times of his innocence.
Look, Bob, you know me. I'm a smart guy.
Would I leave a glove behind? Would I do something like this?

Speaker 34 This doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 But Simpson was facing a mountain of evidence. Working the crime line.
As District Attorney Gil Garcetti confidently told NBC News back in 1995.

Speaker 61 No case that I am aware of in the history of this country has had so much DNA evidence.

Speaker 62 But for the fact, this is where O.J.

Speaker 61 Simpson,

Speaker 61 it's what you would call in sports language, a slam-dunk winner.

Speaker 1 Then D.A. Garcetti made a critical decision.
He decided to move the case here to downtown Los Angeles from Santa Monica.

Speaker 1 Downtown, the jury pool would be mostly minority and thought to be more sympathetic to a black defendant.

Speaker 1 At the time, Garcetti claimed the change was made for a number of reasons, including that the Santa Monica courthouse, which recently had sustained earthquake damage, couldn't handle a long trial.

Speaker 1 Can you tell us anything at all at this point?

Speaker 1 But former detective Tom Lang believes that trade-off may have also involved a different calculus, the hope that a conviction by a predominantly black jury would head off what happened here in 1992.

Speaker 1 When rioting broke out after a mostly white jury acquitted LAPD officers in the beating of Rodney King.

Speaker 1 Can we all get along?

Speaker 1 Can we get along?

Speaker 1 In hindsight, that decision to move the trial downtown may have been the first of many that, taken together, would influence how the case and the verdict played out.

Speaker 22 The thinking was if you have a minority jury convicting a minority defendant, everything is cool.

Speaker 27 You're not going to have any problems.

Speaker 1 But prosecutor Marsha Clark says there was no choice about where to try the case.

Speaker 29 It was always going to be downtown. There was no discussion about it.

Speaker 1 And so people who who say, oh, well, they gave up the mostly white jury pool of Santa Monica and ended up in a mostly minority jury pool downtown, and that was, it was all over at that point, those people don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 29 No, they really don't. I mean, they might be right in terms of, would we be better off with a white jury? Well, yes.
I don't think there's any disputing that now, right?

Speaker 29 But justice kind of demands that we try the case in front of the jury, you know, that we have, and we do our very best to convince them.

Speaker 1 Then another critical decision, this one made by Judge Lance Ito, who ruled the trial could be televised. Do you have enough evidence to convict O.J.

Speaker 20 Simpson?

Speaker 26 Of course we do.

Speaker 1 Publicly, Marcia Clark seemed highly confident in her case back then.

Speaker 26 The fact that the case has been filed means that we do have sufficient evidence to convict him.

Speaker 1 But privately, as Clark told us, she sensed trouble early on.

Speaker 29 Right off the bat, we've got a big pushback in the African-American community. They don't like this case.
They don't want to believe it.

Speaker 29 There was a sense of loyalty, of investment in protecting an African-American icon who had made it. He was successful.
He had made it. They did not want to see him taken down.

Speaker 1 Even though he'd done virtually nothing for the community he'd come from.

Speaker 29 It was surprising. Virtually nothing.
This was not exactly your civil rights firebrand. And as he was quoted famously saying, I'm not black, I'm OJ.

Speaker 1 Still, Clark says she was convinced a strong case could be built primarily on the blood and DNA evidence.

Speaker 29 There was a trail of evidence literally from Bundy that led all the way into his bedroom at Rockingham and that included the blood, the hairs, the fibers. It was a huge amount of evidence.

Speaker 29 The question was, would it be enough to overcome the incendiary issue of race?

Speaker 30 How do you plead to counts one and two?

Speaker 15 Absolutely 100% not the overtending.

Speaker 1 Race would soon become front and center in the case.

Speaker 1 Thanks to a new attorney Simpson added to his team just before he was arraigned. His name? Johnny L.
Cochran Jr.

Speaker 28 We're ready to proceed to trial. We want to see justice for O.J.
Simpson, and we believe he'll be acquitted.

Speaker 1 Cochran had been a thorn in the LAPD side for years, running a lucrative practice trying police misconduct cases. From the outset,

Speaker 1 his strategy was simple.

Speaker 61 This was the kind of case where you attack the police and their credibility.

Speaker 1 Especially in 1995.

Speaker 64 At that time, the only way to describe the situation between the black community and LAPD was a state of open warfare.

Speaker 1 Connie Rice is a civil rights attorney who lives in Los Angeles.

Speaker 64 The black community experienced LAPD as a hostile occupation force that viewed the black community with racist contempt.

Speaker 1 So it was the perfect time for that defense to be erased.

Speaker 64 It was the perfect time for that defense to be erased, that this is a black man being persecuted and he ought to be let go.

Speaker 1 But OJ Simpson? For years he lived on LA's mostly white west side. He spent much of his time playing golf, dating white women, and seemed to have little to do with LA's black community.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure he knew how to get to South LA.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 64 He didn't have to identify with the black community. What the black community understood was that you're being targeted, you're back with us.

Speaker 1 Cochran knew that, and helping him were several other legal superstars like F. Lee Bailey, DNA expert Barry Scheck, and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz.

Speaker 1 They were known as the Dream Team, but Dershowitz had his own name for them.

Speaker 22 I call them the Nightmare Team.

Speaker 37 It was a terrible, terrible group.

Speaker 1 We didn't get along.

Speaker 39 There was a tremendous amount of dissension behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 But somehow they managed to come together and pick a jury, as Simpson attorney Carl Douglas revealed to Dateline.

Speaker 16 We had done focus groups pre-trial, and it said clearly that African-American women would be our best jurors. They would know and understand

Speaker 16 how black men are treated by police.

Speaker 1 In the end, the panel that was picked included eight black women.

Speaker 16 We were so pleased because this was a jury that Johnny could speak to and had spoken to for his entire career.

Speaker 1 Perhaps the most thrilled of all was Simpson himself.

Speaker 16 OJ looked back on that jury and said, gee, guys, if this jury convicts me, maybe I did do it.

Speaker 14 Coming up, was OJ Simpson getting rid of something at the airport the night of the murders?

Speaker 65 He was pulling things out and dumping them in the trash can.

Speaker 14 And Kato Kalen in the biggest role of his life.

Speaker 11 I don't think we're going for the same parts.

Speaker 42 When Dateline continues.

Speaker 14 Returning to our story, the O.J. Simpson trial was about to begin.
After that surreal Bronco chase through L.A., you wouldn't think things could get much stranger, but of course they would.

Speaker 14 A circus in a courtroom watched by millions.

Speaker 27 Here again is Josh Mankiewicz.

Speaker 1 Day one of what was being called the trial of the century. It's no exaggeration to say it felt as if the whole world was watching.

Speaker 57 We're very ready. We've been ready for a lot.

Speaker 1 It was just six months after the murders of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. O.J.
Simpson was facing the possibility of life in prison if convicted.

Speaker 1 Now the two sides would finally square off. A team of tough but largely unknown L.A.

Speaker 1 County prosecutors, armed with a seemingly airtight case rich in DNA evidence, pitted against some of the most famous defense lawyers in the land, whose plan was simple ⁇ put the police and their investigation on trial.

Speaker 1 Presiding over all of this would be Judge Lance Ito, a former prosecutor who'd been on the bench for six years.

Speaker 26 This blood drop that you see here, marked with the item number 112, matches the defendant.

Speaker 1 The heart of the prosecution's case was all that blood and DNA evidence, which pointed squarely at O.J. Simpson.

Speaker 1 But first, prosecutors detailed Simpson and Nicole's troubled, sometimes violent relationship, which they said culminated in her murder.

Speaker 67 And in that final and terrible act, Ronald Goldman, an innocent bystander, was viciously and senselessly murdered.

Speaker 1 Later, Denise Brown gave the jury a chilling account of how Simpson brutalized McColl right in front of her.

Speaker 1 Picked her up, threw her against a wall.

Speaker 1 Picked her up, threw her out of the house.

Speaker 1 Was it tough to go in there and recount what you had seen?

Speaker 10 Yeah, it was.

Speaker 9 I had just lost my sister.

Speaker 10 Yeah, everything was just right there.

Speaker 9 I mean, just so fresh.

Speaker 1 Prosecutors also focused on the timeline of the murders to show that Simpson was alone and unaccounted for for at least an hour. Enough time to kill Ron and Nicole.

Speaker 7 People call Mr. Kalen?

Speaker 1 Cato Kalen took the stand to testify about that night he was with Simpson. But first came one of those Kato moments.

Speaker 26 Did you think that your friendship with him, your acquaintanceship, especially living on his property, might send acting roles your way?

Speaker 6 I didn't think that.

Speaker 11 I don't think we're going for the same parts.

Speaker 11 I was just being me. It wasn't about the spotlight.
It was just how I am.

Speaker 1 Whose side was Cato Kalen on?

Speaker 11 Oh, that's a great question.

Speaker 29 He certainly wasn't on ours.

Speaker 29 He was on Cato's side. That would be my opinion.
From the very start, he was very clearly withholding information.

Speaker 1 And you didn't think he had anything to do with it?

Speaker 67 No.

Speaker 29 What he was doing was sticking his finger in the air, seeing which way the wind was blowing and saying, you know what, Simpson's not going to get convicted and I'm going to be the one who was standing by his side and he'll take care of me.

Speaker 1 Kalen told us he cooperated fully and answered everything Clark asked. And at trial, he did detail a critical sequence of events before and after the murders.

Speaker 1 From the trip he and Simpson took to McDonald's. to those three strange sounds he heard at 10.45 p.m.

Speaker 1 Sounds investigators believed Simpson made when returning returning home after killing Ron and Nicole.

Speaker 26 Can you demonstrate for us how loud it was?

Speaker 11 Somewhat, yes. Go ahead.

Speaker 26 Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 26 And where did that noise seem to be coming from?

Speaker 12 From the back of the wall.

Speaker 1 Kato Kalen had come to Hollywood looking for fame.

Speaker 1 What he found was something more powerful, longer lasting, and ultimately upsetting.

Speaker 11 This is probably the scariest moment in my entire life and also everything that you ever done in your life became out to the public.

Speaker 1 This is not what you wanted, I'm sure.

Speaker 11 I would never think in a billion years that this was going to be my life.

Speaker 1 Kato Kalen wasn't alone. Another person's life had collided with O.J.
Simpsons that night. But this man was eager to testify.
Skip Junas was at the L.A.

Speaker 1 airport the night of the murders to pick up his wife who worked for American Airlines. It was 11.30 p.m., just an hour after Ron and Nicole had been killed.

Speaker 65 A limousine pulled up and O.J. Simpson got out of the limousine.

Speaker 1 Junas says he had a clear view of Simpson, but Simpson, he says, never saw him.

Speaker 21 He was carrying this little cheap gym bag.

Speaker 65 He only zipped it a few inches just enough to get his hand in and was pulling things out and dumping them in the trash can.

Speaker 1 Back then, Junas didn't think too much of it as he watched Simpson empty that little black bag and then hustle inside.

Speaker 1 By the time police learned what Junas had seen, it was too late for them to go through the trash. But Junas did draw a picture of the bag for detectives.

Speaker 1 You think he was disposing of the evidence then? Sure, of course they do.

Speaker 22 That witness has evidence. They have no reason to discount him or anything else.
He's an entirely credible story.

Speaker 1 So credible that Junas was subpoenaed to testify but like a lot of the prosecution's case things wouldn't go quite according to plan and the defense was just getting started

Speaker 14 coming up if it doesn't fit it was a stunning time

Speaker 16 one that will go down in the annals of history i suggest i did not want him to try on the evidence gloves whose call was that

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Speaker 1 Prosecutors had Kato Kalen on the witness stand against morning shows to late-night television. Judge Lance Ito's courtroom was now part of our popular culture.

Speaker 1 It was OJ every day.

Speaker 1 Products, pundits,

Speaker 1 and a whole new class of TV shows talking about everything that happened that day in court.

Speaker 1 But if the audience loved it, 12 jurors didn't see it because they were sequestered, confined to this high-rise hotel a few blocks from the courthouse.

Speaker 1 Lon Cryer was one of the jurors who actually decided the case. For 265 days, more than eight months, their lives were limited to a courtroom and a hotel room.

Speaker 70 With no TV, no phone, no radios, no nothing.

Speaker 1 Isolated, bored, often lonely. There was nothing glamorous about being a juror on the trial of the century.

Speaker 21 I think you'll be very happy with the entertainment that we'll provide for you this weekend.

Speaker 1 There were occasional off-day outings around town.

Speaker 1 And there was one business trip when the jury was taken on a tour of the crime scene and Simpson's Rockingham estate.

Speaker 1 But what the jurors didn't know was that before that visit, defense attorney Carl Douglas had gone into Simpson's house for a little redecorating.

Speaker 1 We wanted to make the Rockingham location look lived in

Speaker 16 and stand with all of its regalness so that the jurors would say, O.J. Simpson would not have risked all of this for this woman.

Speaker 1 Photos Photos of Simpson with white women were swapped out for pictures of him with black people.

Speaker 1 A Norman Rockwell painting from Johnny Cochran's office and a bedside photo of Simpson's mother were placed in prominent view. This is not tampering with evidence.

Speaker 1 This is not tampering with evidence, no. This is simply making his house presentable, like washing the floors.
Like putting the Bible out for everybody to see.

Speaker 1 Putting flowers in to make the house more presentable.

Speaker 16 If there is no objection, so be it.

Speaker 1 You wanted to win.

Speaker 16 If it's not called, I'm trying to get the optimum advantage to win. They play hardball in the big leagues.
This was the big leagues.

Speaker 1 And there was a lot more hardball to be played, starting with that evidence cops had collected at the crime scene and at Simpson's estate.

Speaker 1 The defense knew how to dismiss it quickly and cleverly with just four little words.

Speaker 47 Garbage in, garbage out.

Speaker 16 Garbage in, garbage out became the strategy. If there was evidence that was contaminated or corrupted, then the results and the conclusions could not be trusted.

Speaker 1 For example, a key blood sample that wasn't collected from the crime scene until three weeks after the murder.

Speaker 1 Then defense DNA expert Barry Scheck pounced on the LAPD's Dennis Fung, accusing him and a colleague of mishandling evidence. There.

Speaker 1 There.

Speaker 27 How about that, Mr. Fung?

Speaker 19 The defense came in and just whittled in piece by piece, little by little.

Speaker 1 Many people who watched the trial said that the jury was bored by the lengthy DNA evidence.

Speaker 12 Put yourself there.

Speaker 33 And you're sitting there. You're listening to this stuff over and over.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie to you. It was somewhat boring.

Speaker 1 Boring and apparently not resonating with the jury, whose silent expression sent a loud message to Marsha Clark.

Speaker 29 That trial was a nightmare for me every single day. I had had so many days of going back up to my office and feeling like we're toast.
It's over. There's no way.

Speaker 29 Because remember, I'm watching the jury all day, every day.

Speaker 1 What was the bigger problem? The defense suggesting that because of race, that the DNA evidence had been tampered with? Or was DNA back then just too hard and too boring for the jury to understand?

Speaker 29 It was the former. It was definitely the race issue.
So the DNA was not the problem. The problem was the jury didn't want to believe.

Speaker 29 And so at the end of the day, you can't make someone believe something they don't want to believe.

Speaker 1 But there was plenty of other evidence besides DNA that the prosecution never showed the jury, like the police interview with Simpson. or his emotional farewell note and the ensuing Bronco chase.

Speaker 1 Those were critical lost opportunities, says Detective Tom Lang.

Speaker 22 I had a problem from day one because of evidence that they didn't want to put on.

Speaker 1 And you'd say to prosecutors, what are you doing? And they would say, don't worry, we have DNA evidence.

Speaker 22 They didn't say that. They obviously implied that.
We kept getting evidence, getting more and more evidence, and they weren't having anything to do with it.

Speaker 1 But Clark says she was concerned that the Bronco chase, Simpson's police interview, and the so-called suicide note might play sympathetically to the jury.

Speaker 29 I have to look for the most objective evidence I can.

Speaker 29 I can't go to them and say, this is what I think, because any of these kind of dicey moves, and that's a dicey move, the statement he gave the cops, the quote-unquote suicide note that he wrote.

Speaker 29 So I had enough solid evidence without taking risks with evidence like that.

Speaker 1 Enough evidence that even eyewitness Skip Junas, the man who said he spotted Simpson emptying his gym bag at the airport soon after the murders, was never called to testify.

Speaker 1 And neither was Chris Jenner, who wanted to tell the jury how Nicole feared for her life.

Speaker 43 Her knowing that she was going to be murdered, do you believe that she knew?

Speaker 67 She knew.

Speaker 21 How do you know?

Speaker 67 She told me. What did she say to you? He's going to kill me and he's going to get away with it.

Speaker 1 You couldn't put her on the stand because, what, that's hearsay? Yeah.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 29 That would be hearsay. Under the circumstances that Nicole was speaking to Chris Chris Jenner, we couldn't get it in.
I would have been happy to put her on the stand, believe me.

Speaker 29 I think she would have been a great witness. But

Speaker 1 we've talked a lot about the evidence the prosecution could have brought into the case, but there was something they probably should have left out.

Speaker 1 It would prove to be especially devastating to the case. A self-inflicted wound

Speaker 1 from which prosecutors probably never recovered.

Speaker 53 The people would ask that Mr. Simpson step forward and try on the glove recovered at Bundy as well as the glove recovered at Rockingham.

Speaker 21 That's people 77.

Speaker 1 That was not my call.

Speaker 29 I did not want him to try on the evidence gloves. I never did.

Speaker 1 Whose call was that?

Speaker 13 That was Chris's call.

Speaker 1 Chris was co-prosecutor Christopher Dartner.

Speaker 29 I was miserable from the moment that Chris said, no, I'm doing this. And I'd never expected anything good to come of it.

Speaker 36 You're having a problem putting a glove on.

Speaker 70 The only thing I could assume at that time was

Speaker 19 it's not the right gloves. We asked

Speaker 70 Because they didn't fit.

Speaker 16 It was a stunning time.

Speaker 16 One that will go down in the annals of history, I suggest.

Speaker 1 As one of the dumbest moves ever by any prosecution.

Speaker 16 Never, you never try a demonstration if you're not sure what's going to happen.

Speaker 20 The gloves at Rockingham and Bundy don't fit. Do you understand that? Don't fit.

Speaker 1 And they can never make them fit.

Speaker 15 I got it.

Speaker 1 And the prosecution knew it, too, just a little too late. As Chris Darden told NBC News in 1996.

Speaker 61 They should have fit him. Our glove expert said they would fit him.

Speaker 61 They were his gloves.

Speaker 1 They had his blood on them, the victim's blood on them.

Speaker 53 It's something that

Speaker 50 because it did not come off perfectly.

Speaker 61 Oh, yeah, I wish I hadn't done.

Speaker 1 You say to Darden that night, I told you so?

Speaker 29 No.

Speaker 29 Darden said to me, I'm sorry. And I said, it's okay.
If that lost the case for us, we were never going to win anyway.

Speaker 14 Coming up, Detective Mark Furman is caught on tape, putting the prosecution on the defense.

Speaker 16 It was mind-boggling.

Speaker 14 And those dramatic closing arguments: if it doesn't fit, you must acquit.

Speaker 42 When Dateline continues,

Speaker 1 The 4th of July weekend of 1995 had just passed, but the fireworks were only beginning in Johnny Cochran's office.

Speaker 1 That day, as usual, several anonymous tips had been phoned in.

Speaker 1 Most were dead ends, but one caught the attention of defense investigator Pat McKenna.

Speaker 1 Little did he realize then, but McKenna was about to become a key player in the most explosive and pivotal pivotal part of the case, all because of one cryptic phone message, which read, Furman tapes, N-word,

Speaker 14 things like that.

Speaker 1 Detective Mark Furman, the handsome, confident cop who had discovered the bloody glove at Rockingham.

Speaker 1 So McKenna followed up with the man who left the message about Furman, which led him to a woman named Laura Hart McKinney, a screenwriter who'd consulted with Furman on a script about police work, and their conversations were recorded.

Speaker 1 A few weeks later the tapes arrived at Cochrane's office.

Speaker 16 Johnny was very careful about those tapes locking them in his safe where only he had the combination because it was just so explosive.

Speaker 31 But anything out of a mouth for the first five or six sentences was a lie.

Speaker 48 This is Mark Furman on the tape. I've heard it myself.
It is his voice and it is chilling.

Speaker 16 It was mind-boggling what we'd heard. He used the N-word so much that became insignificant.

Speaker 1 Are you guys like, you know, hoisting champagne glasses when you listen to those tapes? It was mana from heaven.

Speaker 1 But for the prosecution, the Furman tapes were pure hell.

Speaker 29 It was horrifying. Horrifying.
And listening to that tape, it was like having a sewer unload on your head.

Speaker 1 Furman insisted the conversations were no more than the basis for a movie.

Speaker 62 Is this really what the reality of a democracy is, that we use a fictional screenplay to prosecute one man for doing too good of a job on a murder case and acquitting another?

Speaker 62 I just think it's absolutely absurd.

Speaker 1 Absurd to Detective Furman, but it was live ammunition for Simpson's attorneys.

Speaker 1 The defense maintained that Furman was a racist cop who, in an effort to frame Simpson, planted the bloody glove at his estate.

Speaker 1 Undermine Furman, went their thinking, and the entire LAPD investigation would be in doubt.

Speaker 1 Now, Judge Ito made a controversial ruling that would greatly benefit Simpson's defense. He allowed two excerpts from the Furman tapes to be presented before the jury.

Speaker 1 Fuhrman, who had testified previously and denied using the N-word, was then called back to court to answer for what he said on those tapes.

Speaker 49 All right, Detective Fuhrman, would you resume the witness stand, please?

Speaker 1 This time, Fuhrman, accompanied by his lawyer, didn't have much to say, except...

Speaker 50 I wish to assert my Fifth Amendment privilege.

Speaker 1 Three times, Fuhrman invoked his constitutional right against self-incrimination as the defense grilled him, saving their best question for last.

Speaker 66 Detective Furman, did you plant or manufacture any evidence in this case?

Speaker 50 I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege.

Speaker 8 It was terrible. It was terrible.

Speaker 29 The glove demonstration to me paled

Speaker 29 into insignificance after that.

Speaker 1 It's not good when you're handicapping a murder trial afterwards and you're comparing

Speaker 1 which part of your case was the biggest disaster.

Speaker 29 Throughout the trial it felt like one minefield after another. And every day we'd walk into court and something else was blowing up.
My client has already answered that.

Speaker 22 I was pissed.

Speaker 1 Pissed.

Speaker 22 When someone asks you that under those circumstances, it was no, hell no, I do not plan evidence. That's the response.
When you plead the fifth, it's all over whether you did it or not.

Speaker 1 Did Furman sink the prosecution when he did that?

Speaker 22 He sunk the case.

Speaker 50 I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege.

Speaker 1 This part of Furman's testimony was heard outside the presence of the jury.

Speaker 49 All right. Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Your Honor. But juror Lon Cryer had already heard enough from Detective Furman to form an opinion about him and his role in the investigation.

Speaker 70 In my mind, I thought, well, he planted the gloves and the hat. He had plenty of opportunity to do it.

Speaker 1 And because this investigation wasn't 100%

Speaker 1 by the book,

Speaker 1 something nefarious went on?

Speaker 70 It means that I can't convict someone of murder.

Speaker 1 Prosecutors had one last chance. Closing arguments.
For five hours, Marcia Clark reviewed that trail of evidence from Bundy to Rockingham. Clear proof, she said, that Simpson killed Nicole and Ron.

Speaker 29 And you know he did it.

Speaker 26 Now these murders did not occur in a vacuum. They occurred in the context of a stormy relationship.
A relationship that was scarred by violence and and abuse.

Speaker 29 It wasn't my best. It wasn't.
I was tired. I was demoralized.
By the time I got to actually talk to the jury, I thought, are you hearing anything? I don't know if you're hearing anything.

Speaker 29 I don't know. It just didn't feel like anybody cared.

Speaker 1 Stop this cover up. Then it was Johnny Cochran's turn.

Speaker 28 If you don't stop it, then who?

Speaker 1 He gives us the best. It was classic Cochrane as he delivered that iconic line which would forever define the trial.

Speaker 1 So with Cochran's speech ringing in their ears, the exhausted jury would now decide the fate of Orinthal James Simpson. But it turns out, most of them had already made up their minds.

Speaker 40 Coming up.

Speaker 14 An eight-month trial decided in less than four hours, leaving millions to ask, was justice done?

Speaker 29 It was physically painful.

Speaker 67 That was

Speaker 13 not justice.

Speaker 1 You blame yourself for this?

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Speaker 1 The spectacle on national television was over.

Speaker 1 Now the fate of O.J. Simpson would be settled behind closed doors by 12 people who had all endured eight long months of a grueling trial and sequestration.

Speaker 1 But as deliberations began, Lon Cryer, aka juror number six, was antsy.

Speaker 1 You wanted out of there.

Speaker 70 All I could think of. In my mind, I had formed an opinion that I'm probably going to go not guilty.

Speaker 33 I'm also worried that am I the only person who saw it that way?

Speaker 1 Cryer and the 11 other jurors took their first straw vote.

Speaker 1 Oh wow, 10 to 2 for acquittal.

Speaker 1 I went in the restroom and I went, I did want to, oh yes!

Speaker 70 Kind of things.

Speaker 19 And it wasn't because of the 10-2 verdict.

Speaker 19 It was because I'm close to getting out of here.

Speaker 1 Two votes now spelled the difference between both Simpson and the jury finally going home.

Speaker 70 I was open to someone showing a differing view that maybe could have changed my view.

Speaker 1 The two jurors who voted for guilty, what, they didn't try to win anybody else over. They didn't stick with it.

Speaker 70 Not at all.

Speaker 1 And that mountain of DNA evidence was apparently not part of the deliberations.

Speaker 70 Nothing about the DNA actually even came up in discussion.

Speaker 1 During jury deliberations, the DNA evidence wasn't even mentioned.

Speaker 33 As fast as this went, no, it never came up.

Speaker 1 And a short time later, a second vote, an eight-month trial, decided in less than four hours.

Speaker 21 You have reached a verdict in this case. Is that correct, Madam Foreman?

Speaker 1 It would be announced the next day.

Speaker 3 I was convinced.

Speaker 3 Convinced he was going to be found guilty.

Speaker 50 All right, Mrs. Robertson, would you

Speaker 21 have the envelope with the seal buried forms, please?

Speaker 15 Yes, Your Honor.

Speaker 1 Then the next day, the jury, the families, detectives, and attorneys arrived at Judge Ito's courtroom for the very last time. Would you return those two?

Speaker 29 I saw Johnny in the courtroom, and he looked pretty upset. And I said, What are you worried about? You won.

Speaker 29 And he said, Well, he didn't think he had.

Speaker 29 The funny thing is, all the pundits, you know, that night before the verdict came in, were predicting a conviction. Everyone.
Everyone.

Speaker 34 But not you. Nope.

Speaker 1 As we gathered to watch, everything else seemed to stop. An estimated 150 million of us tuned in, costing the economy nearly half a billion dollars in lost productivity.

Speaker 1 Trading on the New York Stock Exchange plummeted 41%,

Speaker 1 and President Clinton was briefed on security measures in case riots occurred not only in L.A.,

Speaker 1 but nationwide.

Speaker 18 Superior Court of California, County of Law.

Speaker 1 Then finally, at 10 a.m. Pacific time, on October 3rd, 1995,

Speaker 1 eight months of trial

Speaker 26 came to this.

Speaker 18 We, the jury, and the above entitle action, find the defendant Orinthal Jane Simpson not guilty of a crime.

Speaker 17 When she read Nicole's verdict first and they said not guilty, I remember thinking, shh, they haven't read Ron's yet, thinking

Speaker 71 for some crazy reason that my brother's verdict would be different.

Speaker 18 Simpson not guilty of the crime of murder in violation of penal code section 187A, a felony upon Ronald Lyle Goldman, a human being.

Speaker 7 And then I lost it.

Speaker 7 I don't know why I thought it would be a different verdict.

Speaker 9 Oh no, I was pissed.

Speaker 10 Ladies and gentlemen, of the jury.

Speaker 9 And you just go, wow, is this really our justice system?

Speaker 7 It was unbelievable.

Speaker 7 It seemed really obvious to me that it was going to be guilty.

Speaker 8 Jury number 11 has to count one seat.

Speaker 7 It felt horrible.

Speaker 29 Jury number 12 has to count. It was physically painful.

Speaker 67 You know, that was

Speaker 13 not justice.

Speaker 29 And I thought of Ron and Nicole, and I thought,

Speaker 29 this is wrong. It's so wrong.

Speaker 1 You blame yourself for this?

Speaker 29 You know, I always do. I do.
I mean,

Speaker 29 I was the one trying the case. But at the end of the day, there was no way to reach that jury.
There was no way to make them believe. There really wasn't.

Speaker 70 It wasn't so much that I thought he was just totally innocent.

Speaker 70 It's just that I don't feel that there was enough evidence presented to me and convict him.

Speaker 1 One verdict,

Speaker 1 two reactions,

Speaker 1 divided by color across the country.

Speaker 1 For the first time in more than 15 months, O.J. Simpson was a free man.
Fred Goldman, as he'd done so many times before, spoke for the families.

Speaker 36 Last

Speaker 1 June 13th,

Speaker 41 94

Speaker 36 was the

Speaker 36 worst nightmare of my life.

Speaker 37 This is the second.

Speaker 3 Honest to God, that's one of those moments of little blur,

Speaker 3 crying and shock and anger and all shoved together.

Speaker 1 And then we left

Speaker 3 with nothing after nine months of resolve settled.

Speaker 1 America's newly insatiable appetite for trial binge-watching had ended without Simpson getting the just desserts many had hoped for.

Speaker 1 But this would not be the last we'd see or hear of Arinthal James Simpson, because Simpson would soon be back in court. And this time, things would be quite different.

Speaker 14 Coming up, OJ Simpson on the spot and under oath When Dateline continues.

Speaker 1 From the county jail to the country club, it didn't take O.J. Simpson long to get back to his old life.
On the links and on camera, Simpson was everywhere. saying he was eager to clear his name.

Speaker 1 Watching and seething were the families of Nicole and Ron.

Speaker 3 You know, here's this arrogant murderer, you know, flaunting his celebrity.

Speaker 1 Kept saying he was looking for the real killers on every fairway in America.

Speaker 3 And every time he looked in the mirror at home, he had found them.

Speaker 1 But Fred Goldman still wanted justice, even if it meant Simpson remained free.

Speaker 41 I wanted a court to say.

Speaker 3 he was guilty.

Speaker 1 No court could do that now, but a civil court could find Simpson Simpson liable for killing Ron and Nicole. And that meant filing a wrongful death lawsuit.

Speaker 1 If Simpson lost, he wouldn't go to prison, but he might have to pay damages to the families.

Speaker 1 The Goldmans hired a relatively unknown attorney named Dan Petricelli to represent them. He had never handled a case that involved murder.

Speaker 1 Petricelli would argue the case here in Santa Monica, where a jury would be selected from a largely white population. And unlike in the criminal case, the burden of proof was lower.

Speaker 1 This jury wouldn't have to agree unanimously on a verdict. And as a matter of law, O.J.
Simpson would have no choice but to testify in pretrial depositions and the trial itself.

Speaker 1 And that meant Simpson would have to answer for all the DNA evidence, his abuse of Nicole, and something that surfaced in the National Inquirer.

Speaker 63 One of the lead pages is a picture of Simpson walking, and one of his feet were elevated, and they had circled the shoe that he was wearing and said that was a Bruno Mongli shoe.

Speaker 1 During the original investigation, the bloody shoe prints at the crime scene were matched to this exact type of Italian shoe. Now, thanks to the photo, Petrocelli could put the shoes on Simpson.

Speaker 63 Then we had it sent out to a lab for authentication. Came back to see the real picture.

Speaker 1 In January 1996, Simpson arrived at Petrogelli's office for a deposition that would be videotaped, putting the attorney face to face with his boyhood idol.

Speaker 63 By that point, I knew he was a stone-cold killer. But he extended his hand out for me to shake it, and I just couldn't resist.
I shook his hand.

Speaker 63 I've always regretted that.

Speaker 63 That I literally shook the hand of

Speaker 63 that

Speaker 63 probably wielded the knife that killed my client's son and killed his ex-wife.

Speaker 1 But that was as friendly as it ever got. For 13 days, Petrocelli grilled Simpson about the night of the crime, the cut on his finger, and the shoes.

Speaker 63 The deposition turned out to be a gold mine for us because he made so many inconsistent statements.

Speaker 1 Then in October 1996, O.J. Simpson would tell his story to a jury as the civil trial got underway.
No TV cameras and no discussion of racist cops planting evidence.

Speaker 14 It was a different kind of trial.

Speaker 3 You know, it was a trial based on evidence.

Speaker 33 It was all about facts.

Speaker 1 And the primary witness in this case was O.J. Simpson himself.
who had no choice but to take the stand.

Speaker 63 He had no answers, no explanations why his DNA and his hair and his fiber and his clothing were there at the crime scene, why the victim's blood was in his house, why the victim's blood was in his car.

Speaker 63 And this is evidence that would put people away in three seconds in most cases.

Speaker 1 And near the end of the trial, another devastating wave of evidence. More photos of Simpson wearing the same Bruno Molly shoes.
30 more pictures.

Speaker 63 It really put the ultimate lie to Simpson.

Speaker 1 And now a jury would decide. After deliberating five days, they had a verdict.
It was unanimous.

Speaker 37 But the jury has decided, yes, O.J.

Speaker 31 Simpson did willfully and wrongfully cause the death of Ron Dorn.

Speaker 41 Finally, he had a court say he did it.

Speaker 3 It was only confirmation of what we knew.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 he did it.

Speaker 1 The families were awarded $33.5 million in damages, of which they've only received a fraction. But Simpson lost what was left of his reputation.

Speaker 1 That aside, he again walked out of court a free man.

Speaker 1 It turned out, justice was coming for O.J. Simpson in ways he never imagined.

Speaker 40 Coming up, O.J.

Speaker 14 Simpson in criminal court again. This time, the verdict is different.

Speaker 8 I'm going to sentence you as follows.

Speaker 14 Now decades later, what else has changed?

Speaker 1 2007, O.J. Simpson was still living the good life, having relocated to Florida.
That year, he took a trip to Las Vegas, Vegas, after which his life would never be the same.

Speaker 1 In September, Simpson was arrested and later charged with robbery, assault, and kidnapping for breaking into a hotel room with several armed men.

Speaker 1 He claimed to be taking back his personal memorabilia, which had been stolen, but he was heard saying he wanted to keep it away from the Goldmans.

Speaker 29 I'm going to sentence you as follows.

Speaker 1 And exactly 13 years to the day that he was acquitted of the murders in Brentwood, Simpson was convicted and later sentenced to up to 33 years.

Speaker 1 O.J. Simpson was released on parole in 2017 after serving nine years.

Speaker 1 As for the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, since neither Mr. Simpson nor anyone else was convicted, police say the case remains open.

Speaker 1 If new evidence is presented, they'll look into it, but they're not actively investigating.

Speaker 1 Quite a bit has changed in the decades since that horrible night in Brentwood.

Speaker 28 It doesn't fit, you must acquit.

Speaker 1 The man who helped acquit Simpson, Johnny Cochran, died in 2005.

Speaker 1 Simpson's friend and attorney, Robert Kardashian, also passed away two years earlier.

Speaker 1 LAPD detective Phil Van Adder also died in 2012.

Speaker 22 We don't have any answers right now.

Speaker 1 His partner, Tom Lang, is now retired.

Speaker 26 It is in the memory of Nicole that this foundation was formed.

Speaker 1 Denise Brown became very active educating others about domestic violence and started a speakers bureau to get the word out. Kim Goldman wrote a book about victims of high-profile crimes.

Speaker 1 And she has a son, whose middle name is Ronald.

Speaker 37 Ron was a good human being.

Speaker 1 Her father, Fred, was awarded the rights to Simpson's book, If I Did It, Confessions of the Killer, which Goldman says he considers a true account of how Simpson killed Ron and Nicole, something Simpson denied.

Speaker 1 Cato Kalem is still in Los Angeles and among his many projects started a clothing line. Chris Jenner? Well, you know.

Speaker 50 I wish to assert my Fifth Amendment privilege.

Speaker 1 As for Mark Fuhrman, there was never any evidence that he planted anything.

Speaker 1 However, he did plead no contest to one count of perjury for lying at trial in connection with those audiotapes and was sentenced to three years' probation.

Speaker 1 Since then, Furman has appeared as a commentator on the Fox News channel. Neither Marcia Clark nor Chris Darden ever tried another case for the DA's office.

Speaker 1 Clark went on to practice law as an appellate attorney.

Speaker 1 She's also the author of more than 10 books, including a novel entitled Blood Defense, where the main character is an ambitious defense attorney.

Speaker 1 Chris Darden has also written several books and started his own law firm specializing in criminal defense. Never answer a hypothetical question from a reporter.

Speaker 1 Carl Douglas continued practicing law and has erected a small shrine to his mentor, Johnny Cochran, in his office. Judge Lance Ito retired in 2015.
after serving more than 25 years on the bench.

Speaker 1 The once mostly white LAPD is now much more racially representative of the city it polices.

Speaker 1 Though far from perfect, race relations have dramatically improved between the cops and the city's black community.

Speaker 49 And we hope that that injustice will be prevented in the civil trial.

Speaker 1 And attorney Dan Petricelli moved to Brentwood, not far from where O.J. Simpson once lived.

Speaker 1 Simpson's Rockingham estate has been sold. The new owner demolished the house in 1998 to build a new one.
And Nicole's condo is still there, with a remodeled exterior and a new address number.

Speaker 1 But the gawking busloads of tourists have dwindled. And as for OJ himself,

Speaker 52 we are coming on the air with breaking news. Just moments ago, NBC News confirmed that O.J.
Simpson has died at the age of 76.

Speaker 1 In April 2024, O.J. Simpson, whose rise and fall riveted the nation, died of cancer.

Speaker 51 I can't think of anyone, historical or someone that we may have known, where the first chapter and the second chapter of their lives are such a stark contrast, revered and then reviled.

Speaker 1 O.J. Simpson may be gone, but his case lives on.
That mountain of evidence that was supposed to guarantee a slam-dunk conviction, most of it is still around, buried deep in the LAPD's archives.

Speaker 14 That's all for now. I'm I'm Lester Holt.
Thanks for joining us.

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