"In den Fängen der Zeugen Jehovas" mit Elena Belperio

1h 32m

Content Warnung: In dieser werden Folge werden sexualisierte Gewalt an Kindern und ein Suizidversuch geschildert.


Elena Belperio wächst in der Gemeinschaft der Zeugen Jehovas auf. Obwohl ihre Kindheit von sehr strikten religiösen Regeln geprägt ist, empfindet Elena sie insgesamt als glücklich. Sie hat ein liebevolles Verhältnis zu ihren Eltern und ihrem Bruder, doch als sie etwa fünf Jahre alt ist, wird sie vom Sohn einer befreundeten Familie missbraucht. Die Aufarbeitung und Aufklärung dieses Falls führt Jahre später zu ihrem zweiten Ausschluss aus der Gemeinschaft der Zeugen Jehovas.  


Im Laufe der Jahre, insbesondere während ihrer Pubertät, beginnt Elena, an ihrer Gemeinschaft zu zweifeln. Sie beneidet die sogenannten "Weltmenschen“ um deren Freiheiten und Freundschaften. Als sie sich schließlich zum ersten Mal verliebt, fühlt sie sich verpflichtet, den Ältesten davon zu berichten. Sie hofft auf Verständnis und Wohlwollen, obwohl sie weiß, dass viele Jugendliche bei den Zeugen Jehovas ihre Beziehungen mit „Weltlichen“ lieber geheim halten. Doch entgegen ihrer Erwartungen wird sie daraufhin aus der Gemeinschaft der Zeugen Jehovas ausgeschlossen.


Das Leben außerhalb der Gemeinschaft überfordert Elena völlig. Sie leidet unter tiefer Einsamkeit und steht schließlich kurz vor einem Suizidversuch, der glücklicherweise verhindert wird. In der geschlossenen Einrichtung, in die sie daraufhin eingewiesen wird, fühlt sie sich erstmals wieder gut aufgehoben und umsorgt. Dennoch kehrt sie anschließend aus Hilflosigkeit gegenüber ihrem neuen Leben zur Gemeinschaft der Zeugen Jehovas zurück.


Die Wiederaufnahme zieht sich über mehrere Monate hin und erfordert zahlreiche absurde Formalitäten. Bis dahin begegnen ihr die anderen Mitglieder mit sozialer Ächtung und nehmen von ihr Abstand. Als sie den Missbrauch in ihrer Jugend innerhalb der Gemeinschaft anspricht und aufarbeiten will, wird sie erneut ausgeschlossen. Nach ihrem zweiten Ausschluss aus der Gemeinschaft wird Elena erneut von der Realität überwältigt. Doch dank einer Therapie findet sie Halt und entwickelt eine völlig neue Lebensfreude. Heute möchte sie vor allem eine Stimme für Betroffene sein. Sie studiert Sozialpädagogik und träumt davon, eines Tages eine Jugendeinrichtung zu leiten – um Jugendliche so aufzufangen, wie sie es damals gebraucht hätte.


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and that handiclot.

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moment, the

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of

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that's the same thing.

So, Gustav is

Elena Belperio, Elena is Drell, comes Osnabrück, and when you

have a separate

Jungfrau, that

is Elena Wasaitemi Deng Kangen Jehovah.

But I

the only

Jehovah with

the same thing.

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is soft structure

before

me in this

way where

Elena also

am best.

Hello, Elena.

Hi.

Dear moment, we were

talking about

16, and we

were

goddess

in the local

colour, to

let

go of the colours, and then

we

we're going to be able to do it.

I'm not going to do it for my buddy.

That's how we

do it.

I don't know what to say.

I'm not

sure.

And

I don't know.

And Elena, what we're doing here.

And what

mindset is that?

We

have what

I think,

but you have a fraud and

test, what

is it?

Or maybe it is,

and when

you

say that we

come.

So, that's what

it is in the cop rattles, we all do

it.

I have anger.

So, in balance,

we say in this mind, so we punish

and so come

and

seem

to train,

and

yeah, we

are

halfway.

While

And this spreadsheet,

that my so

a loss can

also feel

trained and

that also

and that

primary fuel was

we

were and then also

this

also

kind of

spread.

To begin with, you

know,

that

mutter by

Siden,

you

won't be able

have a contact in Italian, but also

Italian

Eurovas.

We also

have a Turkey,

and

my father is a gesture that

is more

skeptical, but she also

has to contact the

Hatton, and my

help

through the motherfucker,

and

yeah, my mama has

traumatized

her motorcycle,

and the young aunt.

And that has

been

more anger, and then come to the body.

No people

feel interested, and yeah, so come on.

So we

have

to

do it.

But we

have

nothing, and

then for the freelance,

the children

of position.

Yeah, the

trend

that

we have

that

also

get rigged,

that also comes,

and

the

house and

also

Jewish field that

we get.

And I

told you

to

be able to

have Italian

mamma had

a pact with

Italian.

We feel

and I also

foolish,

and I desire

clowns in families.

It's clinker

and

feelings, Regis Wister,

all

harmonious families,

we

have to

kind of

speak.

So, that

is my flow, so that's why

I'm not sure if you can see it.

Yeah, that's

it.

That's a

bit

of a trend, that myself,

that

other kind,

that in the ground,

what

we have,

that is

very

important, and also that Garnish

also.

So, I must say,

what

can be done, the festival, and the wisdom from

the world.

And

what

house to house in Diennes?

David

Mark

Provoker,

I went and better and

fatal flyer and health.

So

many boxes,

absolutely.

The house to wusses

before.

it?

My company is not with a supermarket and

we

could

be

Coca-Cola,

but we

were

fighting that.

So that would be

a good thing.

And we

are

also kind of

gross artists,

but what we

think

that's the same thing.

What is the

magazine?

What's the Engels?

And then Engels Engels.

I

think

it is calm in Zoom, which is also

a

work.

hold

on to

it, so I think

I have

play dates, or

so

contact with

the clinic, but you can't do it.

The solution

have a Christian clause,

the Hoffic den Christian fundamentalist.

The

Bibles fundamentally

blue transfers

in Libya

situation.

The

first

gods and Schapfer and the Glauben an Amerigedon, as ended the edition.

Nurse Jehovah Troy is

greaten and

parties.

Allegedly,

the Weltlichen, so

that

mention.

So,

in

the

first place,

But in so many

guns open,

the

solution

is

in New York Auschwitz.

The local group that

we have and Elijah Wasamlung

Elena Hatterkut desugened in Eltest.

The manner of superficial

für and the

same.

The role of

the Eric

Bescheiden aus

and Kennedys and Maison Stabe when the Hovers von Turtsu Turgen Weltimension

and Plutarch

Medieval Gotchprechen.

Elena Kanzig and the situation also.

So, I have Osbrunk,

we have,

and then we will

also

be, and I have a carton,

he also

speaks,

and that's

my

machine.

And I want to thank

that

the flyer fatality, and

I said we feel a fatal, and that we

have to do it.

So that we can see that a character,

yeah.

I also

free.

Then we have a wax person,

we have

to do it.

And we have the club, and we have

to go to the bottom of the body.

When X Epsilon,

that's

a good thing.

But English

total.

but

the person

was

fabulous or what?

And I think what

I

can do is in Gotta Mission,

as a total

paradox.

So, yeah.

We have a business

also in the definition, but I in the research mechanics,

why

experts are

a sector.

So,

religions,

but

that's why you're not.

So,

yeah.

And

it can be

done, and

it is

what

consequences.

So

it is

so far

that

also

in a thousand

and hints

is quasi-die,

and that

we wish a group

of

people, and myself,

or when I

have

a consequence.

We have the alleged

Yeah, too much.

I didn't mention the

infant, or not medicine, or

the weight of

it.

So, that is what I think.

We have

a lot of

people who are hastening, but

that also

in the

Yeah,

I cannot

say we all

feel sexually

here and I

Yeah, so the

family

has a

west and

minority, and so the point was also my father noticing

the family

where the papers

were also

And my mama,

as I find my mamma,

the status of the alleged frame buttons

for it.

And that's why these families are integrated in our families, we

have all

the things that

we

have or the

quasi-hammers

for

training,

and

I think

it is

a family, the zone of

families.

I think

it also

can

be

passed at the border of Kansas, but we do.

We

have

to

do something that can be

That's what we're doing and

the kind of

thing.

And what

to come is that

today,

as

George,

our Kerberlich.

And yeah, we wanna say,

and

that's

what

I'm talking about.

What What

is it?

Right, it's not

the hint where

I'm

not in the period, that I think a nice

thing, and that's it.

And that is a film theory

and

I think it's a very good thing.

And that would be

uploaded and I can't remember what

the truth

is.

There is a guest,

and then

people

are

going to have

a pinglig, that my auscult, and her

fagang.

And

sex.

That we

can't do that.

But I

would say

that so often in Schutznam, and I was

in theory, I think it is common, so

that's the same thing.

And this is my

daughter,

but

that we can

do it.

That's why

absolute false.

But

this

immune

is the fight which

goes on,

so

that

yarn is also

theater.

I

mean, we should

have

also

So, and

in

what

flight?

Yeah.

So,

it is

the theater.

Absolutely.

But it's hard to

hear

families in

the health, also,

and then the father, also

a

die in the hero.

When

you get a moment

for

this

process, yeah, I'm often bad and

you can't do it.

The camera,

I think there are links for the tour, the camera, and

that's cooked, that

we have to fall

And I wish

now,

I

trauma therapy,

I won't say,

and when

you go to the water, and

nothing.

I have a lot of

dissertation,

I have to say,

I have to

spill.

The mama had

come down,

and this would be a solution and

a very important thing.

That we have to do.

I mean, that's also

what we

did so far.

situation that

we have to do.

Kleiner can sexuality

and

sexual ubergruff nicht einen.

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a misbrav Kindesalter.

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charm ein Gefuel is the

same.

And the Selbspill

in Fruit Kindle.

then

we have to be able to do it.

We are also in Jung Alter Sergeant, so we

have done

a lot of the same thing.

the music?

And that

wax

wax

here,

Ichimoku, and also the motor that

stops or reads

completely

and quad the

trauma.

Yeah, absolutely.

So, what I think is

what we

are and the idea

with the fuel has

nothing to do with it.

So, that would

be

my

a moment where

the families

is

another family.

I think

this

free property

is

an ELF,

okay?

With

Eurovas, we have a

lemon steel and

90% or

more.

So,

but

that's

why

I can't do this.

I can

mention

also the

family with migration and

organizations,

Zen, what

I feel

and

what you do.

And I waltzer with the Schuyler comment and my flag of the

and sold.

And that was

the

last time,

but then we

have

to

go to Andrew.

And I think that also

the middle foreign.

But I wish I could

feel

all the way to the

hair.

I told you

what

happened, and then we also

feel

like this.

what

has to do

with Auschwitz?

Yeah, because you

have to

be a teenager,

then my mama,

I

would say, I will

say it.

So, Doc

Stagnet, I also

want to thank

you for

the

hurt, and we

are,

not a great

person.

I

also

motor.

So, when I

family,

we

have

we

have to

rebellion, but my mother

is a little bit more than a little bit of

a

market

consequence,

and the

world

is in the farm.

your account.

You check the score and the restaurant reviews.

You check your hair and reflective surfaces and the world around you for recession indicators.

So you check all that, but you don't check to see what your ride options are.

In this economy, next time, check Lyft.

You see

what

Yeah, that's actually

a solution to

be

a bad thing.

So, we we also can handle them, and

I

can't

say

that

concentrated.

And she

was

and I

think the

song,

and we

had

anger or

something.

Yeah.

And I think this connection.

So I don't know if you can

see and

what

you can do.

Yeah.

Do best feel, do best,

do consistently.

Has to

be

But

now the Internet would soon be

quasi in the fall, as

well as

Engels.

I

begin, and I

love Google, Habitsbung.

While this

is so tough for

kindergarten,

that is

really

gifted.

That has to do with all these

normalities,

but we have

the Internet Fernanding.

So I

think it's a Twilight.

So we're going to be able to

do that without Harry Potter.

But the angst

of the

opposite thing was

objective,

but it is emotional.

That

is angels,

so contacted together, to mention, to find

out what it is.

So

my friend

But these are

the things in

the style,

but it is a very different community.

So,

the

steel, and we can

bring it together than

the

world.

And that's a fairly different

filmed

sexuality.

But that's what a world

is.

So, the market,

and we have

to

do it, but I shouldn't

But that's why

we

trend.

Yeah, so I

think

I marked that.

But

it is

antique.

I

think

I

should

have said that I can

read it, I mean,

and that also

negative

or in the positive.

So, another thing we wrote to Nina,

another

thing.

So, I think we

have

to do something.

But that Alice Stringer

is a little bit more difficult.

I have to

say a lot about

that

myself

wasn't

there, but that was great,

but I consequently

means

it's

general

contact

and

direct forbidden, but then

we have

seen

sex for the air, but

the teenager does not

catastrophe.

But that's not forbidden.

Yeah, so

we have

to

wagenum that

sex.

And I wish that

we

were

there and

for sex, when

Esther,

and I

think,

and I have a Himmel shout,

and having

Jehovah, the gun,

and that handclut.

the same thing.

That was

a very good idea.

I was

going to say,

and the concept.

Had

we

idea what

sex was, and then after an e-commerce

999,

this mindset that I invisible regulators, as I have

super shamed.

So, what

is it?

I think that's so

Yeah, my mama has not

the riba,

but

in Ken.

That's why

it's also

my mama, we have auto

a essence,

so we have

a restaurant,

which is my altar and I think.

And

yeah,

my father

is

there.

But I must say that

in the cultural aspect, so for my father here,

I

think the

author

is

a bit of a mentality that

Claudia has

ideas,

but you have to

be able to

I can't believe that I

was a podium, but the Bible, the Jehovah, and

all

the reality,

and then I

was organized

with

it.

That was

not

a bad feeling.

The

waxen

market.

Yes,

but you have to theoretically.

So,

you have to feel a little bit more than that.

So, I

think that's what I'm saying.

I

think

it's

not

also

straight or less.

Then we

have the

doppelganger.

Yeah,

yeah.

Yeah.

So that's auf so is it

done.

Yeah,

and

it's not a good thing.

So my dank warns, but I have

to

say, I think Elisha Menschen, I

think

of

my aussless

and

you don't have to say,

I feel what

it is, and they have

to do it.

I have to

make sure that

my lusciousness

is

kind of

auspicious

to music in a tales

whatever we

have.

But we often

say

protect Europe, but

my hitter also

and

realistic.

So, my history

is sublime, naturally.

Indeed,

I would

say I

think

it was

a little bit of a teacher.

Yeah.

Manchester,

but nothing and my stanza,

or my exploratory.

So, my

ribbon was

a little bit more than a second.

But manhattan

builds

sex, but

sex is a great,

but in your

life, it also exists.

It also

can be.

So, that is a fault and

And that sexuality is not

speaking.

That is complete and

then

also.

I have the best.

I have to take

about

content,

I think,

to

be able to

Jehovah,

where in the committee

forbidden

that

from

her

Jehovah.

So, and the demon must

be

was so fast

that I was

kind of

like,

yeah.

I would

say, Alice in the world that was a bibliography, as we have

Alice,

I was so wonderful.

I also

have

to do

it, and then we

have a family,

then

also,

I think it's a very good thing.

I wouldn't have

to

say that the social

media.

I was

hoping

and

we

were

here.

And yeah, but

I

completely

agree, but

that was Alice and Troy.

And I wish I wouldn't

have

done it.

The Bruder

der Spitter then

toilet studio comments.

I

think

I

was in the research

And

I think that's what we're talking about.

So, I can't

remember in the

camp and we

say

what we

do, but we are cool.

We have

naturally

blasted, as well as

we

have.

So,

we are also

we

had platforms

and then a fast,

or something like that.

Yeah, I

know a proof of

it, but that is not reviewed,

but they not a committee, and that would

be not a committee,

that would

be

a

biological, and

also

right.

And then what?

I

think

that blocks,

I can walk,

that

we have Osselbrugger,

Joe Waskazen, diamond

blicks.

So that's a good

idea.

It's also a

plan video

of

it, but

still, and nothing, or

in

rebellion,

and so I guess

we can rebel.

I mean,

I

was like, So I had to

side,

I have a wig,

I

have kicks,

a call center,

the telephonist, in

the middle.

In the past,

the mitigation

offering

teenagers,

and I can't

tell you that what we

give me,

or that

Osprey and that and these

are in Ostenberg.

It is only

the plate that in Berlin.

Yeah, that's what

I'm saying.

Yeah, but

I think that's what I'm saying.

So hate

that I'm not sure

what I would say

about the total confrontation that

in the

fruit

and

that I

think it's so

important

to hold that

in him.

Yeah, that's

all.

The freighter has a kind of a little bit of a sound.

Yet,

theories all

study.

No, absolutely.

I was

completely

fluted

and

dissociative.

That was the same

thing, but we had panic attacks.

I think

my purpose,

and

a deck and a medal.

And

then

Allison Elton,

and the Hamilton

Peaks, and she reactions.

The Protestant is

a very good thing that is

completely

different, and

And I would say

what?

The gate is

also

not

much

to

do.

So the

same thing.

I was there ain't

no more.

Yeah, or

something.

Yeah, but it's also Neiland.

So

that

feel

to feel suspicious.

We must

have been a little bit more than that.

So a little

straight.

I

can

see that.

I

the tag where

a broke spring

that is

not

here,

but we

come to

the house.

So, I think

we

have

to do that.

I

believe

and

in Himmelford, and

my inner sist

and my work,

then give me

a lot of

things,

or that

I do not so

much.

The Gesen had to speak.

that I

made

that,

what

is the difference between

Master?

Yeah, what

about

Feskend, and that's the political

colour, and I would

not have a reading, I have to say,

so

you can't do it.

I

that

I can

say, hey, that's all good.

I have

the business line and that went

well.

How much

in warnings?

How do you

do myself?

And in the

Okay,

I would say

that.

I had to mention,

I have to make it, I would say,

I must kind of

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and that

I will also say.

I think the

same thing,

but

it's not a very good thing.

Yeah.

I think I

can learn, but I think

that now this process

is also

that

all this

is possible.

And I fall away from

the family for

the family, but you

forlorn and so

forth.

So the social echo, these

things

ignored,

also

optional in the rook, originally,

but also

that you had

to

do

in the misery,

that

was the Eltesten or even

Pasik within Weltment, that all the possessions and that

is

it.

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we

don't

have truth from the Eleven here,

where so

is that

a system as

Uber

die in

Schlussen.

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Waldo, Jehovah,

and the Troy went.

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photograph

and

the same thing.

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the

most important

thing?

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first time

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of the

complete Überboardwerfen

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worldbilt would be

a very important thing to do.

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hinterlass,

familiar in a germ shaft.

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social drug.

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stages

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the same thing.

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are

the last

one.

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process what?

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I think I'm comfortable, but I mean,

it's

not

the

same and

then I'm

going to go to the bottom.

But

we have to

say, All right,

and

we

must

have a kind of reader.

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have

this situation to come,

that's the platform,

and as

we

go, then

you can't be able to do it.

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But that

mine

ignored that.

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have officials on

the gap and moment would be

a brief

removal.

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go and

see what we are doing.

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that

is a

good thing.

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say,

the

game

and then we have a petalfongen

and

then what

we

need to do

is

to do it.

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awesome.

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start and in the moment, I would

say in the moment,

and we have

a nurse,

that

I criticize,

and a a classic.

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then

you have to

go,

my young label, but they

also

also

in

common

cookies, and

then

a motif

or

unknown,

but also

is

not

with any wiggle to the side.

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And also,

I think it's not a good idea.

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passive,

I was

saying, I also

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in this unlocked

motor comes in the situation with Buddha, where we

have to do it.

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there are a lot of

people

and the

disciplines

that

are

not

clear

that the momentum

is.

know

my

blood is

a

best candidate that

we

also

that means

hey, we

have

a Buddha, that's what

it is.

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is angry disciplined and

that

makes

it a very important thing.

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also

researching, and also a

task,

and

that was

what people

need to do for

English and that naturally

a gross

and natural

combat, we have a welcome.

I don't know what

plan we

have, or we must have

noticed that.

And

that would

be a hug.

So,

I would say

nothing,

that we

should do and yeah,

that's

why

we have

misbroken

and the

water.

That would be needed,

and then Teppicke, and

that okay, I

think terrorists, and

whatever.

So, that's the

exact

same thing.

What now?

So,

a child political.

And that was

my political.

I have a

magazine.

So, I have a moment

where the retraumatization

is

we have a committee and we have

a piglotte

and I mean a mamma with a lot of people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

The Eltes, the angel,

for me, that's air, and seen

and also.

the alternative

English and she had angles

that

Ellen

that

was

and also

in speaking.

Yeah, and I have also

forbidden

and the water and the elders are then.

And I call it

a fraud, it's only

think.

This is a problem, so I won't

pass it, but I just

want to say that.

So, a lot of

people would be functioning.

So, the

best

and that

also

is

that

quasi-rechench

by America.

So, So,

we have

to do it.

So, the

anomaly

then got the

hat that

we have to

do with a

lot of people who are not going to be able to do anything and what that

is,

beaten with

beats.

Yeah, with the same thing that

you can

do.

Then what does it mean?

Yeah, that's what

you want.

Okay,

whatever.

That's what we

call

black stars.

that my danger

and so on and so forth.

We

do anything, but it's not the upside.

And that

reality,

and

had my best fort,

that my standpoint,

I have

to say, I had a kin,

I mean, a wonky, I

would

get my leaves,

and I had a

plan, I had

a vision, I

basically,

yeah,

and

this related

a very good thing.

So no?

When this

warden was to distance

therapy, but it's not that.

I won't

say that.

And the

functionality

identity,

I can work.

I

sold

you, but also Eleanor, I had a teenager,

that also

formed formalized and

that we

can't also

set

it up.

But

the Gross Role

cannot

be.

I mean,

this is the

feel,

and

I would notice it.

And this is a

little bit of a

best

motor where the end

of my

basement,

and I will

what

I

mean from a glacier, that we

could

not

design

myself

and the glaumes,

my inner critic was so present and so staggered, and then we all

intensively.

Yeah, and

correspondent.

And we

have to do it.

a break,

and I think I would

say,

I feel

I want to

design the Ichamba.

Did they

do best?

It is actually,

So, and

I

also

want to

say, and the thing we should

do is

to be able to do it.

What is that

from

So, when it is ruckless, the standards

here,

to gaze in the direction of Michael, was

this

and that

we fascinated.

And I was a new

fascination

so

that we can

also feel

and

the therapy.

Yeah.

What

is

that

therapy?

I was merely

Eleanor, I traumatized

it, I III

extremes and uncontrolled

that I

was midlight.

That's not

the same thing.

That is hard to see,

and I wish you can't

do and I

don't know that a a tale from here, but I

see in my

habit.

So, I think

Lusta,

what are the

people, the manuscripts that are

and the tale of

the world, but I

would say in my

own

in podcasts,

but we were

tuition

and we all

know

that

we

also accepted

So to what news and the southern

gross

or positive

is also

what news they

are.

So no.

Yeah, and what

is this one fact

a good

work?

So, we

can't

sophile

it.

It's

all

partnering, and a good

thing can

be

show notes.

So positive

to team players or yeah, we have not yet.

So,

yeah.

So,

I think that's what I'm saying.

Elena, I cannot thank you.

And the toll is the same, or I must

feel

angry, feel like

and my

strength.

So, and this is all

in a world with

existence, but I

kind of

like it.

Elena is a

global stake and inspiring person.

I want to respect,

but she

so often at Ziltat.

Indeed,

it is

also

a breach

of

the world.

Aba wielding and

the same.

My

total hanging.

I would say that it is

in the

Gutenberg.

So I

think the personality

is

a great place to

be in the

world.

In the Niestenfolk, this

is

Thomas Laufmüller, Laufmüller, Thomas was priest in the catalog

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the family of the world.

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