"In den Fängen der Zeugen Jehovas" mit Elena Belperio

1h 32m

Content Warnung: In dieser werden Folge werden sexualisierte Gewalt an Kindern und ein Suizidversuch geschildert.


Elena Belperio wächst in der Gemeinschaft der Zeugen Jehovas auf. Obwohl ihre Kindheit von sehr strikten religiösen Regeln geprägt ist, empfindet Elena sie insgesamt als glücklich. Sie hat ein liebevolles Verhältnis zu ihren Eltern und ihrem Bruder, doch als sie etwa fünf Jahre alt ist, wird sie vom Sohn einer befreundeten Familie missbraucht. Die Aufarbeitung und Aufklärung dieses Falls führt Jahre später zu ihrem zweiten Ausschluss aus der Gemeinschaft der Zeugen Jehovas.  


Im Laufe der Jahre, insbesondere während ihrer Pubertät, beginnt Elena, an ihrer Gemeinschaft zu zweifeln. Sie beneidet die sogenannten "Weltmenschen“ um deren Freiheiten und Freundschaften. Als sie sich schließlich zum ersten Mal verliebt, fühlt sie sich verpflichtet, den Ältesten davon zu berichten. Sie hofft auf Verständnis und Wohlwollen, obwohl sie weiß, dass viele Jugendliche bei den Zeugen Jehovas ihre Beziehungen mit „Weltlichen“ lieber geheim halten. Doch entgegen ihrer Erwartungen wird sie daraufhin aus der Gemeinschaft der Zeugen Jehovas ausgeschlossen.


Das Leben außerhalb der Gemeinschaft überfordert Elena völlig. Sie leidet unter tiefer Einsamkeit und steht schließlich kurz vor einem Suizidversuch, der glücklicherweise verhindert wird. In der geschlossenen Einrichtung, in die sie daraufhin eingewiesen wird, fühlt sie sich erstmals wieder gut aufgehoben und umsorgt. Dennoch kehrt sie anschließend aus Hilflosigkeit gegenüber ihrem neuen Leben zur Gemeinschaft der Zeugen Jehovas zurück.


Die Wiederaufnahme zieht sich über mehrere Monate hin und erfordert zahlreiche absurde Formalitäten. Bis dahin begegnen ihr die anderen Mitglieder mit sozialer Ächtung und nehmen von ihr Abstand. Als sie den Missbrauch in ihrer Jugend innerhalb der Gemeinschaft anspricht und aufarbeiten will, wird sie erneut ausgeschlossen. Nach ihrem zweiten Ausschluss aus der Gemeinschaft wird Elena erneut von der Realität überwältigt. Doch dank einer Therapie findet sie Halt und entwickelt eine völlig neue Lebensfreude. Heute möchte sie vor allem eine Stimme für Betroffene sein. Sie studiert Sozialpädagogik und träumt davon, eines Tages eine Jugendeinrichtung zu leiten – um Jugendliche so aufzufangen, wie sie es damals gebraucht hätte.


Ihr findet Elena auf Instagram @elenabelperio

Falls ihr noch mehr über sie erfahren möchtet, könnt ihr einen Artikel über ihre Geschichte lesen: https://www.noz.de/lokales/osnabrueck/artikel/osnabrueckerin-ueber-ausstieg-und-missbrauch-bei-den-zeugen-jehovas-44536630


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